Re: Suggestion for editorial change

2014-12-18 Thread Andrei POPESCU
[CCing you since I don't know if you're subscribed to -www]

On Mi, 17 dec 14, 10:42:19, Tomas Nordin wrote:
> Hello Debian
> 
> I was browsing through the page http://www.debian.org/intro/free
> 
> and found room for editorial improvement. I would like to change the 
> underlined wordings in
> """
> Software that is free only in the sense that you don't need to pay to 
> use it is hardly free at all. You may be forbidden to pass it on, and 
> you are almost certainly prevented from improving it. Software 
> licensed at no cost is usually a weapon in a marketing campaign to 
> promote a related product or to drive a smaller competitor out of 
> business. There is no guarantee that it will stay free.
> """
> to
> "There is no guarantee that it will stay available at no cost"

This can be addressed also with this simple addition.


Index: english/intro/free.wml
===
RCS file: /cvs/webwml/webwml/english/intro/free.wml,v
retrieving revision 1.24
diff -u -r1.24 free.wml
--- english/intro/free.wml  8 Jun 2014 01:58:21 -   1.24
+++ english/intro/free.wml  18 Dec 2014 09:06:51 -
@@ -24,7 +24,7 @@
 and you are almost certainly prevented from improving it.  Software
 licensed at no cost is usually a weapon in a marketing campaign to
 promote a related product or to drive a smaller competitor out of
-business.  There is no guarantee that it will stay free.
+business.  There is no guarantee that it will stay free of charge.
 
 Truly free software is always free.  Software that is placed in the
 public domain can be snapped up and put into non-free programs. Any


If no objection from -www I can apply this patch at any time.

Kind regards,
Andrei
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Re: Suggestion for editorial change

2014-12-18 Thread Tomas Pospisek
Am 18.12.2014 um 10:08 schrieb Andrei POPESCU:
> [CCing you since I don't know if you're subscribed to -www]
> 
> On Mi, 17 dec 14, 10:42:19, Tomas Nordin wrote:
>> Hello Debian
>>
>> I was browsing through the page http://www.debian.org/intro/free
>>
>> and found room for editorial improvement. I would like to change the 
>> underlined wordings in
>> """
>> Software that is free only in the sense that you don't need to pay to 
>> use it is hardly free at all. You may be forbidden to pass it on, and 
>> you are almost certainly prevented from improving it. Software 
>> licensed at no cost is usually a weapon in a marketing campaign to 
>> promote a related product or to drive a smaller competitor out of 
>> business. There is no guarantee that it will stay free.
>> """
>> to
>> "There is no guarantee that it will stay available at no cost"
> 
> This can be addressed also with this simple addition.
> 
> 
> Index: english/intro/free.wml
> ===
> RCS file: /cvs/webwml/webwml/english/intro/free.wml,v
> retrieving revision 1.24
> diff -u -r1.24 free.wml
> --- english/intro/free.wml8 Jun 2014 01:58:21 -   1.24
> +++ english/intro/free.wml18 Dec 2014 09:06:51 -
> @@ -24,7 +24,7 @@
>  and you are almost certainly prevented from improving it.  Software
>  licensed at no cost is usually a weapon in a marketing campaign to
>  promote a related product or to drive a smaller competitor out of
> -business.  There is no guarantee that it will stay free.
> +business.  There is no guarantee that it will stay free of charge.
>  
>  Truly free software is always free.  Software that is placed in the
>  public domain can be snapped up and put into non-free programs. Any
> 
> 
> If no objection from -www I can apply this patch at any time.

I'm not sure that this is a good change. I'd not restrict the meaning of
that phrase to "free as in beer". The companies "giving away" such
software could possibly change any terms of the software. Such as f.ex.
not being availabe any more. Or starting to push ads through it. Or
restricting the field of usage ("only personal usage") etc. So the price
is not necessarily the most important thing that can go awry with "free
as in beer" software. And I think that's the point OSS people are trying
to make in the first place.

So I'd rather not restrict the scope of that phrase.
*t


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