Re: Linux-based OS

[Paul van der Vlis]

Op 15-09-12 10:06, lucelem schreef:
> Preface: Hello! Sorry, if message sent for wrong email. Replace it, if
> it's true and sorry for my english...
> 
> I'm going to try linux at soon. But now this fucking holywars about
> Linux or GNU/Linux is irritating me. 

I work many years now with Debian, and I have not seen any discussion or
"war" about this point.

> Only Debian still use it and
> Debian is a symbol for other distributions too. All popular
> distributions call their systems is "Linux" or "Linux-based OS". For
> examples: Fedora Linux, Arch Linux, OpenSUSE Linux, Gentoo Linux,
> Linux Mint, Red Hat Enterprise Linux, Ubuntu Linux, Slackware Linux,
> etc., but only debian team use GNU/Linux at least in their
> documentation for a long time. I don't care about GNU, because
> Stallman is stupid paranoid, but i appreciate em for GNU software,
> what allow me booting Linux-based OS on my computer. 

You could also use e.g. lilo or syslinux. But it will be difficult to
run Debian without at least some GNU software.

> Do i need a feel
> freedom when use Free Operating System? It's not a Freedom!

No. Please feel what you feel.

> Why i can't call it Linux?

You may call it Linux, as long as you use a Linux kernel. In Debian we
have freebsd kernels too. It's your choice.

> Are you going to review this position today? If
> not, i migrating to PC-BSD and will use it as my desktop OS.

Do what you think is the best.

With regards,
Paul van der Vlis.


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Re: 500 on Wiki Account creation

[Steve McIntyre]

Stefan wrote:
>Hi,
>
>I just (around 13:54 CEST) wanted to create an Wiki Account:
>
>   http://wiki.debian.org/LocalGroups/DebianMuc
>
>And got an 500.

Hmmm. Apologies for that. Juct checked in the logs and I can see you
came from the IP 62.159.77.166. I can't find any obvious reason for
the failure, though. Please try again?

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Policy 3.9.4.0 upload target of 2012-09-18

[Russ Allbery]

Well, clearly my plan to do this a couple of weeks ago didn't actually
work, so new plan.  I'm planning on uploading Policy 3.9.4 Tuesday evening
(2012-09-18).  My hope is to then start working on documenting multiarch.

Sorry about the delay.

For Lintian folks, here's the upgrading checklist for this release:

 2.4
  New _tasks_ archive section.

 4.9
  `build-arch' and `build-indep' are now mandatory targets in
  `debian/rules'.

 5.6.26
  New section documenting the `Vcs-*' fields, which are already in
  widespread use.  Note the mechanism for specifying the Git branch
  used for packaging in the Vcs-Git field.

 7.1
  The deprecated relations < and > now must not be used.

 7.8
  New `Built-Using' field, which must be used to document the
  source packages for any binaries that are incorporated into this
  package at build time.  This is used to ensure that the archive
  meets license requirements for providing source for all binaries.

 8.6
  Policy for dependencies between shared libraries and other
  packages has been largely rewritten to document the `symbols'
  system and more clearly document handling of shared library ABI
  changes.  `symbols' files are now recommended over `shlibs' files
  in most situations.  All maintainers of shared library packages
  should review the entirety of this section.

 9.1.1
  Packages must not assume the `/run' directory exists or is usable
  without a dependency on `initscripts (>= 2.88dsf-13.3)' until the
  stable release of Debian supports `/run'.

 9.11
  New section documenting general requirements for alternate init
  systems and specific requirements for integrating with upstart.

 12.5
  All copyright files must be encoded in UTF-8.

Note that the change to make build-arch and build-indep mandatory is not
RC for wheezy.

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CD FAQ: Changes to "How do I write an ISO image under Windows?"

[Brian Potkin]

The attached diff is an attempt to tidy up the section on writing an ISO
image under Windows. It changes some links, deletes a section or two and
generally tries to adapt the section to the overall look and feel of the
CD FAQ page.

The first entries are described in brackets as "Freeware", whatever that
means. My preference would be "Provided free of charge" in the text
body, as is done for the last entry, but I've just deleted any reference
to free of cost throughout the section as presumably a user can work it
out for herself,

Some headings are of the form "Something from Somewhere". There may be a
reason for this but it is not emulated thoughout this section or the
previous one. Why not "Brasero from Philippe Rouquier and Luis Medinas"?
I've adjusted the headings.


Adaptec/Roxio Easy-CD Creator
-

The Adaptec link doesn't lead anywhere useful. The Roxio link gets you
Creator NXT. There is no sign of Easy-CD Creator so the validity of the
description is questionable. I've deleted this entry.

Nero from Ahead Software


Why do we need to know where the software is from? Isn't a link
sufficient? 

WinOnCD Power Edition from CeQuadrat


The link was dead for me. Section deleted.

CD Extreme from Sony


The link connects with a home page. I've changed it to one where the
software can be downloaded.
--- index.wml	2012-09-09 15:15:28.0 +0100
+++ index-windows-burning.wml	2012-09-16 22:50:07.0 +0100
@@ -605,13 +605,13 @@
 
   http://www.imgburn.com/";>ImgBurn
-  (Freeware)
+  
   
   There are http://www.imgburn.com/index.php?act=screenshots#isowrite";>screenshots of how to write an image to CD/DVD
 
   http://www.cdburnerxp.se/";>CDBurnerXP Pro
-  (Freeware)
+  
 
   The process of writing an .iso image is described http://www.cdburnerxp.se/help";>in the program's
@@ -619,24 +619,13 @@
 
   http://isorecorder.alexfeinman.com/isorecorder.htm";>ISO
-  Recorder (Freeware)
+  Recorder
 
   This program can write .iso images on Windows 2003, XP
   and Vista.
 
-  http://www.adaptec.com/";>Adaptec\
-  /http://www.roxio.com/";>Roxio Easy-CD Creator
-
-  From the File menu, choose Create CD from
-  image Then select the .iso file type, and the correct
-  image. This opens up the CD creation setup GUI, from there
-  ensure that all the information for your CD-R is correct. In the
-  Create options portion, choose Create CD; under
-  Write method, choose Track at once and Close
-  CD.
-
-  Nero from
-  http://www.ahead.de/";>Ahead Software
+  http://www.ahead.de/";>Nero
 
   Disable the Wizard, then select Burn Image from the
   File or Recorder menu. Select All Files in the file
@@ -651,16 +640,8 @@
   and Determine maximum speed, plus check the Finalize
   CD option.
 
-  WinOnCD Power Edition from
-  http://www.cequadrat.com/";>CeQuadrat
-
-  You have to select Track Image (not
-  CD Image!) in this program. File format is 2048 -
-  Mode 1 or Mode 2 Form 1 Data only and Track format
-  CD-Rom Mode 1.
-
-  CD Extreme from
-  http://www.storagebysony.com";>Sony
+  http://sony.storagesupport.com/node/7068";>CD Extreme
 
   Choose New Job... from the File menu. Then
   select Global-Image or Other Image. This opens up
@@ -677,8 +658,8 @@
   href="http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=9d467a69-57ff-4ae7-96ee-b18c4790cffd";>Microsoft
   Resource Kit Tools
 
-  The command-line Resource Kit Tools are provided by Microsoft
-  free of charge, they work with Windows 2003 and XP. Two programs to
+  The command-line Resource Kit Tools 
+  work with Windows 2003 and XP. Two programs to
   write images to CD and DVD are included, they are named
   Cdburn.exe and Dvdburn.exe. Usage of the programs
   is described in the accompanying help file - essentially, the

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