Re: Debian Wiki: License & Helping with transition
On Wed, 2008-09-03 at 20:26 -0400, Daniel Dickinson wrote: > On Thu, 04 Sep 2008 01:13:52 +0200 > Franklin PIAT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Wed, 2008-09-03 at 18:34 -0400, Daniel Dickinson wrote: > > > On Wed, 03 Sep 2008 09:02:43 +0200 > > > Franklin PIAT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > So to make it short : You can create a "book" on our wiki, with a > > > > specific license. Also, you are welcome to review the page [3] and > > > > [4]. > > > > > > Is there anyway to make sub-pages also automatically have the > > > appropriate copyright? It's going to be a pain if a user starts a > > > new page and I have to contact a page creator each time a new page > > > is created because the wiki has no copyright. > > > > Short answer no, but from my experience, users rarely create pages in > > such projects. > > I guess I should clarify. I don't expect full-blown manual pages, just > recipes and hints and tips and that sort of thing. > > > Your parent parent page should contain some instructions on how to > > contribute to that documentation. > > > > Typically, you should have a page that contains the license, then > > include that page in subpages, with : > > [[Include(MyPageName/Copyright)]]. > > Ah, I didn't know about that. > > > Do not expect users to write a manual, it just doesn't work. If you > > want someone to write a manual, you will have to write it yourself. > > (Contributors write a few lines in a page, but they don't *build* a > > structured text, like a manual or a book). > > Ah, well that I expected. What I want is a place for things like how > to get this piece of hardware working and the like, as happens on the > Ubuntu wiki by non-devs. It's probably a wrong example : * The wiki already have such pages (see InstallingDebianOn). * We (you, me and the users) don't want to have multiples page on the wiki to report hardware howtos. * Those pages are very different from a concept of "manual". * Those pages are probably very generic for Debian, and they shouldn't be located within your subpages, IMHO. Another question is : do you want to write a manual or a wiki ? > The actual manual will be written by me, I'm just hoping that there > will be contributions that are useful other than my own (maybe even by > devs once it's well underway), since I probably won't think of > everything and it would speed things up if other people contributed. > And of course rewording for clarity and correctness and that sort of > thing when I make errors (in fact that is probably the single biggest > things I actually am thinking is likely, and am hoping will happen). That's the level of contribution you should expect (except the rewording). You may have more contribution, but that would be bonus ;) > Most of what goes in the manual will not be specific to my project > although some of the desktop stuff will be XFCE-specific (and I'm > hoping someone else will do Gnome and KDE bits so the manual becomes a > point of reference for most end-users). [EMAIL PROTECTED] You should get in touch with Osamu Aoki (the maintainer of DebianReference) and talk with him to understand why DR isn't a regular user guide. If I could give you one advice... You should define what you exactly want to cover in your book, then evaluate how much time you can afford. > The objective is to move things from the wiki to other pages, the wiki > is just a convenient places for collaborative editing. I hope. > Unless > I'd be better advised to just write docbook to start, and get patches > (but again, I'm hoping there will be edits from non-dev users too). Docbook allow variable substitution (useful for derivatives). Actually, you might want to see if you can reuse [patch] an existing documentation. Regards, Franklin P.S. You may feel that some of my answers are a bit negative... It's just that I'm pointing to where others have failed in the past. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#497783: www.debian.org/Bugs: Selecting bug reports on the WWW not possible in the german translation
Package: www.debian.org Severity: normal Tags: l10n Hello, I just discovered the bug selection section of the german translation of the BTS index page to be unusable. Apparently the page is not generated correctly. The following HTML-code contains tags that were supposed to be expanded into valid HTML before sending the page out: | | | | Fehler auswählen | | | | | Nach der ersten Suche können weitere Werte hinzugefügt werden. | Falls eine spätere Auswahl auf das gleiche Suchfeld durchgeführt wird, | werden die Ergebnisse mit ODER verbunden. Falls sie auf ein anderes | Feld durchgeführt wird, werden die Ergebnisse mit UND verbunden. | | Gültige Schweregrade sind | Gültige Markierungen sind | | | Fehler einschließen | | | | | | Fehler ausschließen | | | | | | | Kategorisieren mittels | | | Sortieren nach | | | | | | Verschiedene Optionen | | | | | | Suchen | | | | The english version works fine, though. Kind regards, Niels -- System Information: Debian Release: lenny/sid APT prefers unstable APT policy: (500, 'unstable'), (1, 'experimental') Architecture: amd64 (x86_64) Kernel: Linux 2.6.26-1-amd64 (SMP w/2 CPU cores) Locale: LANG=de_DE.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=de_DE.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8) Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#497783: marked as done (www.debian.org/Bugs: Selecting bug reports on the WWW not possible in the german translation)
Your message dated Thu, 4 Sep 2008 16:22:30 +0200 with message-id <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> and subject line Re: Bug#497783: www.debian.org/Bugs: Selecting bug reports on the WWW not possible in the german translation has caused the Debian Bug report #497783, regarding www.debian.org/Bugs: Selecting bug reports on the WWW not possible in the german translation to be marked as done. This means that you claim that the problem has been dealt with. If this is not the case it is now your responsibility to reopen the Bug report if necessary, and/or fix the problem forthwith. (NB: If you are a system administrator and have no idea what this message is talking about, this may indicate a serious mail system misconfiguration somewhere. Please contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] immediately.) -- 497783: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=497783 Debian Bug Tracking System Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] with problems --- Begin Message --- Package: www.debian.org Severity: normal Tags: l10n Hello, I just discovered the bug selection section of the german translation of the BTS index page to be unusable. Apparently the page is not generated correctly. The following HTML-code contains tags that were supposed to be expanded into valid HTML before sending the page out: | | | | Fehler auswählen | | | | | Nach der ersten Suche können weitere Werte hinzugefügt werden. | Falls eine spätere Auswahl auf das gleiche Suchfeld durchgeführt wird, | werden die Ergebnisse mit ODER verbunden. Falls sie auf ein anderes | Feld durchgeführt wird, werden die Ergebnisse mit UND verbunden. | | Gültige Schweregrade sind | Gültige Markierungen sind | | | Fehler einschließen | | | | | | Fehler ausschließen | | | | | | | Kategorisieren mittels | | | Sortieren nach | | | | | | Verschiedene Optionen | | | | | | Suchen | | | | The english version works fine, though. Kind regards, Niels -- System Information: Debian Release: lenny/sid APT prefers unstable APT policy: (500, 'unstable'), (1, 'experimental') Architecture: amd64 (x86_64) Kernel: Linux 2.6.26-1-amd64 (SMP w/2 CPU cores) Locale: LANG=de_DE.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=de_DE.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8) Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash --- End Message --- --- Begin Message --- On Thu, 04 Sep 2008 11:29:11 +0200 Niels Grewe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I just discovered the bug selection section of the german translation > of the BTS index page to be unusable. Apparently the page is not > generated correctly. The following HTML-code contains tags that were > supposed to be expanded into valid HTML before sending the page out: Thanks for reporting. A link to an include file needed in the page's build-process was missing (as was a stylesheet). When the website is rebuilt next, the page should start working. -- Regards, Kaare --- End Message ---
Bug#497851: www.debian.org: link to Ubuntu wiki leads to non-existent page
Package: www.debian.org Severity: normal The newly created link to the Ubuntu wiki on http://packages.qa.debian.org//.html is wrong. It points to http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuForDebianDevelopers, but the correct page would be https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Ubuntu/ForDebianDevelopers. -- System Information: Debian Release: lenny/sid APT prefers unstable APT policy: (500, 'unstable') Architecture: i386 (i686) Kernel: Linux 2.6.26.3-libata Locale: LANG=de_DE.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=de_DE.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8) Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Processed: Re: Bug#497851: www.debian.org: link to Ubuntu wiki leads to non-existent page
Processing commands for [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > reassign 497851 qa.debian.org Bug#497851: www.debian.org: link to Ubuntu wiki leads to non-existent page Bug reassigned from package `www.debian.org' to `qa.debian.org'. > thanks Stopping processing here. Please contact me if you need assistance. Debian bug tracking system administrator (administrator, Debian Bugs database) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#497851: www.debian.org: link to Ubuntu wiki leads to non-existent page
reassign 497851 qa.debian.org thanks On Thu, 2008-09-04 at 21:52 +0200, Sven Joachim wrote: > The newly created link to the Ubuntu wiki on > http://packages.qa.debian.org//.html is wrong. This bug applies to pts, which is handled by the QA team (AFAIK). I'm forwarding the bug. Franklin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
