Bug#290187: www.debian.org: packages.debian.org recently got uglier in non-CSS browsers

2005-01-19 Thread Frank Lichtenheld
On Tue, Jan 18, 2005 at 09:42:02PM +0100, Denis Barbier wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 18, 2005 at 10:23:48AM +0100, Frank Lichtenheld wrote:
> > What do you think about something like
> > http://packages.debian.net/unstable/graphics/scribus ? I replaced the
> > [dep] string with the image and put the [dep] into the alt attribute.
> > It doesn't look really nice because of the linebreak after the image
> > but I only can change that with CSS.
> 
> Please note also that the new layout is less Lynx-friendly because it
> adds vertical space.  Entries are now in the form:
>   
> [dep] package namepackage description
> ...
>   
> It may be replaced by
>   
> [dep] package namepackage description
> ...
>   
> where [dep] is rendered like now by an alt attribute or hidecss.

Ok, I can try that

> This also applies for the download table, it is much longer than before

Huh? The download table is the only that that didn't change at all...
So how did it get much longer than before? (Aside from the fact that
this is a pure lynx bug, all other text browser render the table
sufficiently)

> and is pretty annoying.  In order to be usable, rows and cols have to
> be swapped, i.e. display would look like
>  ArchList of files   SizeInstalled size
> alpha   [list of files]   200 500
>  arm[list of files]   200 500
> ...

Yeah, Jutta proposed that, too.

> It is then readable with Lynx, but looks surely ugly with graphical
> browsers, so you may be reluctant to perform such a change.  In this
> case, please at least move this table below
>   Search for other versions of 
> so that we do not have to scroll down to read useful information, or
> move it to a dedicated 'download' page.

I'm still unsure which of these to implement, will do some more tests.

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Re: RFC: Autodiscovery of RSS feeds also on the front page

2005-01-19 Thread Frank Lichtenheld
On Tue, Jan 18, 2005 at 09:08:17PM +0100, Peter Karlsson wrote:
> In a recent comment[1], there was an underlying complaint that the security 
> RSS feeds are hard to find since they are not linked from the front page, 
> even though they are linked from the security page. Since the latest DSAs 
> are listed on the front page, I think it might be a good idea to provide 
> the autodiscovery links ( elements in the page header) also on the 
> front page (and in the future similar ones for news items).

Sounds good to me.

> However, when I added autodiscovery to the security page, there was a 
> complaint[2] about this not "looking good" in Lynx (to which I disagree, I 
> think it looks just nice to having them there).

Hmm, looks like lynx should just add a linebreak after each of them...
I don't think there is much we can do about that. (little text browser
survey: w3m seems not to support this at all, elinks makes something
nice out of it)

> So, before I go on changing the front page I thought I'd ask for an opinion 
> from the list. What do you think? Should I add the autodiscovery s to 
> the front page as well? I am not planning to add visible links to the 
> feeds, just the  elements so that browsers and other tools supporting 
> autodiscovery will find the feeds.

All for it.

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Re: Please, would specify in the global packages list, from which group each package is related.

2005-01-19 Thread Frank Lichtenheld
On Wed, Jan 19, 2005 at 12:34:58AM +0100, Jutta Wrage wrote:
> 
> Am Dienstag, 18.01.05 um 14:58 Uhr schrieb Frank Lichtenheld:
> 
> >What a Accept header is you browser sending? Mine sends
> >Accept:  
> >text/xml,application/xml,application/xhtml+xml,text/html;q=0.9,text/ 
> >plain;q=0.8,image/png,*/*;q=0.5
> 
> Mine does send nothing like that. It leaves it to the server to find  
> the best one. And obviously apache thinks txt is better than html.

Hmm, can't reproduce that, neither with an empty Accept or a Accept of
*/*

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Bug#291188: www.debian.org: ports/amd64/ mentions to be most complete after i386

2005-01-19 Thread Egon Willighagen
Package: www.debian.org
Severity: normal


The webpage http://www.debian.org/ports/amd64/ mentions in paragraph three
"Taking the ported source packages count, debian-amd64 is the most complete
port after i386, see the Buildd stats."

But looking at the picture linked, powerpc is more complete too, at least
most of the time in the graph.

Egon

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Bug#290187: www.debian.org: packages.debian.org recently got uglier in non-CSS browsers

2005-01-19 Thread Frank Lichtenheld
On Wed, Jan 19, 2005 at 10:55:01AM +0100, Frank Lichtenheld wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 18, 2005 at 09:42:02PM +0100, Denis Barbier wrote:
> > This also applies for the download table, it is much longer than before
> 
> Huh? The download table is the only that that didn't change at all...

Ok, I realised this isn't true. I added a  to get valid HTML
( is not allowed directly in ). I will replace that
with  which should fix this (the "longer than before" part).

> So how did it get much longer than before? (Aside from the fact that
> this is a pure lynx bug, all other text browser render the table
> sufficiently)

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typo (?) in webwml/english/security/2005/dsa-646.wml

2005-01-19 Thread SUGIYAMA Tomoaki
Hi, I thought that "exploition" might have to be "exploitation" in
webwml/english/security/2005/dsa-646.wml.  If so, please fix it.

By the way, there seems to be "exploition" also in dsa-629.wml.

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Who's using Debian

2005-01-19 Thread Bruno
Oganization type: non-profit
This organization have one workstation and i choose Debian because it's
the best for newbie like me

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Re: D-I Manual on official Debian website

2005-01-19 Thread Frans Pop
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Subject: Re: D-I Manual on official Debian website
Date: Wednesday 19 January 2005 16:08
From: Frank Lichtenheld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Frans Pop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

On Wed, Jan 19, 2005 at 03:55:20PM +0100, Frans Pop wrote:
> On January 6 I have send [1] with a proposed solution to get the manual
> build with the names and links as you requested for the website.
>
> I have not yet seen a response to this proposal.
> Could you please have a look so we can finalize things?

Uh, sorry. Read it, took a look at the tarball, but didn't answer you :/ 
Looks good (except for the fact that the settings in buildweb.sh seem to 
be for a partial debug build but you probably knew that[1]). You can also 
apply the patch for the order change .en.html -> .html.en. Seems indeed 
preferable here.

[1] I mean lines like
architectures="alpha arm hppa i386 ia64 m68k mips mipsel powerpc s390
 sparc" architectures="i386 sparc"

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issue with search.d.o

2005-01-19 Thread Nicolas Bertolissio
Hi,

I have some troubles with search.d.o: links ask me what I want to do
with the document whose type is unknown (application/x-trash). Mime type
seems to be wrong.  Could someone check this please? or explain how I
can search on this site if I'm wrong.


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Re: typo (?) in webwml/english/security/2005/dsa-646.wml

2005-01-19 Thread Tobias Toedter
On Wednesday 19 January 2005 17:02, SUGIYAMA Tomoaki wrote:
> Hi, I thought that "exploition" might have to be "exploitation" in
> webwml/english/security/2005/dsa-646.wml.  If so, please fix it.
>
> By the way, there seems to be "exploition" also in dsa-629.wml.

Both are fixed now, thanks.

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friend.... vladimir

2005-01-19 Thread Vladimir Vesselinov
very hard to find  the text or program
here I need 2hr to find this...
not good for this web site...
Friends
comme the time  for  STANDARD for software and OS
Microsoft - Windows ** XP --- have the STANDARD and with this
point they are FIRST
I like Linux but he need STANDARD
vladimir
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Re: friend.... vladimir

2005-01-19 Thread David Mandelberg
Vladimir Vesselinov wrote:
> very hard to find  the text or program
> here I need 2hr to find this...
Try using synaptic or another frontend, they're easier if you don't know what
you're looking for, see section editors. Also of interest might be
http://packages.debian.org/stable/editors/.

> comme the time  for  STANDARD for software and OS
Standards like (X)HTML, POSIX, LSB, HTTP, SMTP, etc. work quite well you'll
find. Standard software and OS roughly translate into monopoly by a power coaved
company.

> Microsoft - Windows ** XP --- have the STANDARD and with this
> point they are FIRST
Hmm, sort of like with TNEF, (X)HTML, CSS, Outlook's ability to send/receive
messages in ".doc" format, and WM{A,V}?

> I like Linux but he need STANDARD
> vladimir
Linux implements many standards, TCP, UDP, IP, EHCI, UHCI, OHCI, and PS/2 to
name a few.

this is a matter for debian-user btw


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The webpage http://www.debian.org/ports/amd64/ mentions in paragraph three
"Taking the ported source packages count, debian-amd64 is the most complete
port after i386, see the Buildd stats."

But looking at the picture linked, powerpc is more complete too, at least
most of the time in the graph.

Egon

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On Wed, Jan 19, 2005 at 11:21:42AM +0100, Egon Willighagen wrote:
> The webpage http://www.debian.org/ports/amd64/ mentions in paragraph three
> "Taking the ported source packages count, debian-amd64 is the most complete
> port after i386, see the Buildd stats."
> 
> But looking at the picture linked, powerpc is more complete too, at least
> most of the time in the graph.

I've removed said claim.

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