Re: "Upcoming" events

2004-12-14 Thread Peter Karlsson

Martin Michlmayr:

This event is over so it shouldn't be listed in "Upcoming Events" 
anymore.


I have committed a fix for this, it should be gone from that list in a few 
hours.


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wml to html and validation

2004-12-14 Thread Stanislav Valasek
Hi,

I want to check and validate every wml page before check-in with:
- make (in webwml/slovak dir)
- make install
- weblint ../../file.html (for that file)

I updated full webwml tree with all languages.

But make gives me folloving error:
> make
/home/valasek/Praca/webwml_all/slovak/Makefile:1: 
/home/valasek/Praca/webwml_all/slovak/Makefile: Too many open files
make: *** No targets.  Stop.

Could you please forward me to correct way?

Thanks
Stano



Re: D-I Manual on official Debian website

2004-12-14 Thread Matt Kraai
On Mon, Dec 13, 2004 at 02:39:48PM +0100, Frank Lichtenheld wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 13, 2004 at 01:10:38PM +0100, Frank Lichtenheld wrote:
> > On Sun, Dec 12, 2004 at 08:02:24PM +0100, Frans Pop wrote:
> > > There seems to be a very old version of the Debian Installer Manual at, 
> > > for example, http://www.debian.org/releases/testing/i386/.
> > > 
> > > Do you happen to know anything about that? IMHO these should either be 
> > > removed or updated.
> > 
> > I will investigate this.
> 
> I can't really find any code that creates or updates this. Should
> probably just be removed.
> 
> @Matt (or any other webmaster): Could you do this, plz?

Done.

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Re: new design for debian site

2004-12-14 Thread Ionel Mugurel Ciobica
On 13-12-2004, at 14h 20'15", [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about "new design for 
debian site"
> hi everyone,
> i am new to debian lists,
> i want to redesign web site, what must i do?
> or may i redesign?
> 
Hi Firat,

Which web site you want to redesign? Yours? 

If you want to make some contribution to the www.debian.org please
read http://www.debian.org/devel/website/translating for help with
translation.

Which kind of redesign you have in mind? www.debian.org is nice the
way it is, there are no flash stuff and java scripts, the only fancy
stuff is the default language settings.

Regards,
Ionel



Re: new design for debian site

2004-12-14 Thread Firat KUCUK
Quoting Ionel Mugurel Ciobica <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> On 13-12-2004, at 14h 20'15", [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about "new design for
> debian site"
> > hi everyone,
> > i am new to debian lists,
> > i want to redesign web site, what must i do?
> > or may i redesign?
> > 
> Hi Firat,
> 
> Which web site you want to redesign? Yours? 
> 
> If you want to make some contribution to the www.debian.org please
> read http://www.debian.org/devel/website/translating for help with
> translation.
> 
> Which kind of redesign you have in mind? www.debian.org is nice the
> way it is, there are no flash stuff and java scripts, the only fancy
> stuff is the default language settings.
> 
> Regards,
> Ionel
> 


i just wanto redesign 'debian.org'.
i guess it is impossible.

thanks for your support.

best regards,
Firat.



Re: new design for debian site

2004-12-14 Thread Ionel Mugurel Ciobica
On 14-12-2004, at 02h 08'26", Firat KUCUK wrote about "Re: new design for 
debian site"
> 
> i just wanto redesign 'debian.org'.
> i guess it is impossible.
> 
> thanks for your support.
> 
> best regards,
> Firat.
> 

Redisign it into what? It will not get any better that it is now.
www.debian.org is made by many many people, everyone contributing with
a bit via a cvs server. You may read some info at
http://www.nl.debian.org/devel/website/, maybe start with
http://www.nl.debian.org/devel/website/desc, specially the last
paragraph: http://www.nl.debian.org/devel/website/desc#nohelp

You can't make dramatic changes, nobody wants it. But if you have
nice ideeas you can always post it in here. Is there any reason why
you feal like www.debian.org needs redisign?


Ionel



Debian Mirror ftp.solnet.ch

2004-12-14 Thread Rogenmoser, Stephan



Hello 

 
I want to report 
that the Debian mirror ftp.solnet.ch and 
debian.mirror.solnet.ch are removed.
Today I wrote a mail 
to solnet because I use this mirror. They told me that the contact with 
Debian
is broken 
off and so they decided to remove the mirror.
So please update the 
data on the Debian mirror list.
You can find the 
entrys under secondary mirrors / CH Switzerland.


  
  

   
   
  Thanks and best regards 
  
   
  Stephan Rogenmoser
  
Operations 
  Engineer
  
 
  
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TDC 
  Switzerland AG
  
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  Internet/Data
  
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Phone: 
  +41 800 303 300
  
Fax: 
  +41 800 303 301
  
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Bug#285675: www.debian.org: Sponsor image the one for xs4all on many mirrors.

2004-12-14 Thread Kurt Roeckx
Package: www.debian.org
Severity: important

It seems the .nl (xs4all) logo is showing up at the place of the
mirror sponsor place for some of the other mirrors.

Overview:
.au doesn't have a logo
.at good
.br xs4all
.bg good
.cn Not working
.fr good (xs4all, .nl IP address)
.de good (general picture)
.hk good (general picture)
.id good
.it xs4all
.jp good (general picture)
.nl good (xs4all)
.ru good (general picture)
.sa good
.es good
.ua good
.uk good

www.debian.org itself is the "United states" mirror, but has the
IP address of the .nl mirror, just as the .fr mirror.

So basicly .br and .it need to checked, and .au needs to have
their picture fixed.


Kurt




Re: new design for debian site

2004-12-14 Thread firat
Quoting Ionel Mugurel Ciobica <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> On 14-12-2004, at 02h 08'26", Firat KUCUK wrote about "Re: new design for
> debian site"
> > 
> > i just wanto redesign 'debian.org'.
> > i guess it is impossible.
> > 
> > thanks for your support.
> > 
> > best regards,
> > Firat.
> > 
> 
> Redisign it into what? It will not get any better that it is now.
> www.debian.org is made by many many people, everyone contributing with
> a bit via a cvs server. You may read some info at
> http://www.nl.debian.org/devel/website/, maybe start with
> http://www.nl.debian.org/devel/website/desc, specially the last
> paragraph: http://www.nl.debian.org/devel/website/desc#nohelp
> 
> You can't make dramatic changes, nobody wants it. But if you have
> nice ideeas you can always post it in here. Is there any reason why
> you feal like www.debian.org needs redisign?
> 
> 
> Ionel
> 

sir,
i just thought, we may make a nice web site
like the other distros site. I just wanted to help.
sorry if i am wrong.

Firat.



Re: new design for debian site

2004-12-14 Thread David Moreno Garza
On Tue, 2004-12-14 at 11:02 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> i just thought, we may make a nice web site
> like the other distros site. I just wanted to help.

But the website is already nice! :-) 

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Re: children-distros

2004-12-14 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Tue, Dec 14, 2004 at 02:34:34PM -0800, David Hart wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> A new child-distro, based on Knoppix, geared toward text apps and 
> sysadmins is GRML.

The problem with Knoppix-based distros is that there so many of them that
it's quite impossible to list them all. Also, the idea of the 'children
distributions' page, which should maybe be renamed to 'derived
distributions', is to list Debian-based distros, not products based in
things based in Debian.

Best regards

Javier


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Re: Patch debian-www with css

2004-12-14 Thread Denis Barbier
On Sun, Dec 05, 2004 at 02:26:08PM +0100, Jutta Wrage wrote:
[...]
> Feel free to apply the patch and include the debian.css file. I can 
> send it by mail, if you do not want to fetch it from the above url.
> 
> I'll leave everything in place here. So if you want later changes, I 
> can make them and send you a new patch. The css file should be handled 
> carfully by those working on the server as changes may be harmful.

D'oh, I did not notice that Frank committed your patch days ago.
This is the problem with smooth upgrades, one does not notice when
things change ;)
As there have been no complaints so far, I guess that it is time to go
further and now propose navigation/layout/accessibility changes to see
if we can improve the current web site.

Denis



Re: Patch debian-www with css

2004-12-14 Thread Jutta Wrage


Am Montag, 13.12.04 um 23:26 Uhr schrieb Denis Barbier:


http://www.debian.org/devel/index.en.html
http://www.witch.westfalen.de/debian/dwww/devel/index.en.html


There is on the main page an ugly white ruler with black on white
settings.  Otherwise it looks good.


I meant white on black, sorry.


The hr below the first paragraph? I did not change that. But if you are 
using different colors than that provided by CSS, you may do a 
screenshot, so I can find the problem. If it is that hrline, It may be 
hidden in css.


I made patches (20041214) in http://www.witch.westfalen.de/debian/diff/

But I want you all to look at one third page with page menu provided:

http://www.witch.westfalen.de/debian/dwww/devel/index2.en.html

The menu allows quicker navigation to the parts.

What I do not know: I made that changes in the english subdir. How can 
that, if applied go to the other languages? Or in other words: How can 
that be applied correctly to the tree? - As far as I can see, it does 
not affect (negative or positive) the other languages. But some parts 
of the page can be done automatically (eg. building menu).



greetings

Jutta

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Re: Patch debian-www with css

2004-12-14 Thread Jutta Wrage


Am Mittwoch, 15.12.04 um 00:45 Uhr schrieb Denis Barbier:


As there have been no complaints so far, I guess that it is time to go
further and now propose navigation/layout/accessibility changes to see
if we can improve the current web site.


For the accessibility issue I am already asking in the appropriate 
mailing list.
In addition I got a very good but short free online book from Mark 
Pilgrim's website, where he has five example people with different 
disabilities.


- There is missed something to skip over the menu
- A menu at the bottom of page could be useful, too
- On large pages, there could be something like "back to top"
- Tables need a TH, if not existing
- Is there a summary in all tables which are not for layout?

I am still trying to find more information about aural CSS usage. I do 
not know, if there is something, I can install to test that.


Braille is unreadable for most of us and expensive as other hardware 
supplies would be. There we need the help of those using it. And we 
have to try to see lynx like they to: word by word and line by line. 
Then we can imagine some of the needs (eg. skipping over the menu on 
the homepage to go to the content). But to skip over they have to know, 
what to skip over...


What we have to realize: If we want full accessibility, with lynx the 
pages cannot look the same as people are used to, even if there are no 
changes in graphical browsers.


Beside that I will try to make alternate stylesheets: For printouts and 
for people with disabilities.


BTW: Who is the WML guru here?

cu

Jutta


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Re: new design for debian site

2004-12-14 Thread Alexander Schmehl
Hi there!

* [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [041214 20:02]:

> i just thought, we may make a nice web site
> like the other distros site. I just wanted to help.
> sorry if i am wrong.

Well, perhaps it is a good idea, if you could start your work by telling
us, what you miss and what you think isn't solved good, and what you
would like to do, to solve that.


Yours sincerely,
  Alexander



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Re: new design for debian site

2004-12-14 Thread Mike Hommey
On Tue, Dec 14, 2004 at 01:28:22PM -0600, David Moreno Garza <[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, 2004-12-14 at 11:02 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > i just thought, we may make a nice web site
> > like the other distros site. I just wanted to help.
> 
> But the website is already nice! :-) 

Yeah, if you go back in time to 1999.

Mike



Re: Patch debian-www with css

2004-12-14 Thread Frank Lichtenheld
On Wed, Dec 15, 2004 at 03:06:50AM +0100, Jutta Wrage wrote:
> - There is missed something to skip over the menu

Yeah, I tried to propose that at the beginning of the discussion
but you didn't understood what I meant ;)

> - A menu at the bottom of page could be useful, too
> - On large pages, there could be something like "back to top"

And there are certainly some that could need a toc, too.

> - Tables need a TH, if not existing
> - Is there a summary in all tables which are not for layout?
[...]
> BTW: Who is the WML guru here?

I think Denis and I should be able to tackle all problems related to
that (and probably some other people on the list, too).

Gruesse,
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Re: Patch debian-www with css

2004-12-14 Thread Frédéric Bothamy
* Denis Barbier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004-12-15 00:45] :
> On Sun, Dec 05, 2004 at 02:26:08PM +0100, Jutta Wrage wrote:
> [...]
> > Feel free to apply the patch and include the debian.css file. I can 
> > send it by mail, if you do not want to fetch it from the above url.
> > 
> > I'll leave everything in place here. So if you want later changes, I 
> > can make them and send you a new patch. The css file should be handled 
> > carfully by those working on the server as changes may be harmful.
> 
> D'oh, I did not notice that Frank committed your patch days ago.
> This is the problem with smooth upgrades, one does not notice when
> things change ;)
> As there have been no complaints so far, I guess that it is time to go
> further and now propose navigation/layout/accessibility changes to see
> if we can improve the current web site.

Here are two remarks/complaints:

- the CD pages don't validate any more
(http://people.debian.org/~alfie/validate/en) with many errors like:

Line 127, character 3:  document type does not allow element "P" here;
 missing one of "APPLET", "OBJECT", "MAP", "IFRAME", "BUTTON"
 start-tag

(I don't know if this is related or not)

- the title of every page (f.e. http://www.debian.org/intro/about) is
  now centered whereas it was aligned on the left before. It seems to be
  less readable to me.


Fred



Re: new design for debian site

2004-12-14 Thread Matt Kraai
On Tue, Dec 14, 2004 at 10:42:43AM +0100, Ionel Mugurel Ciobica wrote:
> On 13-12-2004, at 14h 20'15", [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about "new design for 
> debian site"
> > hi everyone,
> > i am new to debian lists,
> > i want to redesign web site, what must i do?
> > or may i redesign?
> > 
> Hi Firat,
> 
> Which web site you want to redesign? Yours? 
> 
> If you want to make some contribution to the www.debian.org please
> read http://www.debian.org/devel/website/translating for help with
> translation.
> 
> Which kind of redesign you have in mind? www.debian.org is nice the
> way it is, there are no flash stuff and java scripts, the only fancy
> stuff is the default language settings.

I think that the web site could be improved.

It's annoying to have people volunteer periodically to redesign the
web site, but they shouldn't be insulted.  Rather, it would be more
constructive to refer them to positive examples, such as the recent
CSS work by Jutta, Denis, and Frank.

-- 
Matt