Bug#189072: Correct contact for debian desktop

2003-05-19 Thread Andreas Tille
On Sun, 18 May 2003, Josip Rodin wrote:

> On Tue, May 13, 2003 at 04:19:26PM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote:
> > So would the person remove these addresses or should I correct the patch?
>
> parse error
>
> If I guess what you mean correctly, correct your patch.
New Patch:


--- organization.data.~1.122.~  2003-05-12 10:35:33.0 +0200
+++ organization.data   2003-05-19 09:27:47.0 +0200
@@ -253,3 +253,34 @@
 Raphael Hertzog
 Roland Mas
 
+
+Debian Internal Projects
+
+
+  Debian Jr. Project
+ -- Debian for children from 1 to 99>
+Ben Armstrong
+  Debian-Med
+ -- Debian for medical practice and research>
+Andreas Tille
+  Debian-Edu
+ -- Debian for education>
+Raphael Hertzog
+  Debian-Desktop
+ -- The Universal Operating System as your Desktop>
+Colin Walters
+  http://people.debian.org/~terminus/debian-lex/";>Debian-Lex
+ -- Debian in legal offices>
+Proposed Debian internal 
project.>
+Jeremy Malcolm
+  http://www.demudi.org/";>Demudi
+-- Debian Multimedia Distribution>
+This is not yet an official
+Debian internal project but it has announced the intention to be 
integrated.>
+Marco Trevisani
+




Bug#189072: Fixed Patch (Was: Bug#189072: Correct contact for debian desktop)

2003-05-19 Thread Andreas Tille
According to

Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 20:03:05 -0500
From: Debian Bug Tracking System <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Jeremy Malcolm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: James Treacy and others ,
 #189807 
Subject: Processed: Debian-Lex Web page up
Resent-Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 20:20:20 -0500 (CDT)
Resent-From: debian-www@lists.debian.org

Processing commands for [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

> close 189807
Bug#189807: www.debian.org: Request for creation of 
http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-lex
'close' is deprecated; see http://www.debian.org/Bugs/Developer#closing.
Bug closed, send any further explanations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]


debian-lex page is created.  Thus the patch for internal projects now reads
as this:




--- organization.data.~1.122.~  2003-05-12 10:35:33.0 +0200
+++ organization.data   2003-05-19 09:27:47.0 +0200
@@ -253,3 +253,34 @@
 Raphael Hertzog
 Roland Mas
 
+
+Debian Internal Projects
+
+
+  Debian Jr. Project
+ -- Debian for children from 1 to 99>
+Ben Armstrong
+  Debian-Med
+ -- Debian for medical practice and research>
+Andreas Tille
+  Debian-Edu
+ -- Debian for education>
+Raphael Hertzog
+  Debian-Desktop
+ -- The Universal Operating System as your Desktop>
+Colin Walters
+  Debian-Lex
+ -- Debian in legal offices>
+Proposed Debian internal 
project.>
+Jeremy Malcolm
+  http://www.demudi.org/";>Demudi
+-- Debian Multimedia Distribution>
+This is not yet an official
+Debian internal project but it has announced the intention to be 
integrated.>
+Marco Trevisani
+




Version misconception?

2003-05-19 Thread Ander F
Hi,

I've been corresponding with Martin Sjögren, one of
your Debian-install developers, about a negative
experience---and a general misconception about Debian
that may be important.

Before I downloaded Debian, I read as much as I could
about it, in books and on the Net. I learned about the
three versions: Stable, Testing, and Unstable. Which
version should I install? These are the impressions I
read in website reviews, in forums, and in newsgroups:

  _ Stable has older packages. (Some people even
referred to it as "old" or "boring.") It's fine if
you're running a server, but otherwise you should use
Testing or Unstable.

  _ Don't worry about Testing or Unstable---because
it's Debian, they're at least as stable as other
distros' normal versions.

I now know that the right way is to install Stable,
then upgrade (selectively, or apt-pin). But nowhere
did I see that explained, not even on Debian.org.

So I downloaded Sarge and tried to install it. I
couldn't understand why the install program was so
different from the manual. I'm pretty
computer-literate, but I ended up trashing all of my
partitions and giving up. That's when I wrote to
Martin.

Martin replied, "Didn't you read this?", and pointed
me to your network-install page
(http://www.debian.org/CD/netinst), which said this
about Testing:

> The images are only intended for testing the
> new installer for sarge. The installer is
> still under development, so the installation
> may fail.

Unfortunately, I hadn't seen it, because I didn't do a
network install. I downloaded ISOs. I had followed the
links to your normal "Downloading Debian CD images"
page (http://www.debian.org/CD/http-ftp), which said
only this:

> Unofficial CD images of the "testing" and
> "unstable" distributions...
> Currently, the folks at fsn.hu produce weekly
> unofficial snapshots of the "testing"
> distribution - many thanks! These images are
> mirrored at various places...

Martin also said, "We assume that people understand
that they should use only *released* versions."

I pointed out that the "Debian Releases" page
(http://www.debian.org/releases) says (I've added the
asterisks):

> Debian always has at least three *releases* 
> in active maintenance: ``stable'', ``testing''
> and ``unstable''...

It goes on to say:

> The ``testing'' distribution contains packages
> that haven't been accepted into a ``stable''
> release yet, but they are in the queue for
> that. The main advantage of using this
> distribution is that it has more recent
> versions of software, and the main disadvantage
> is that it's not completely tested and has no
> official support from Debian security team...

Again, nothing to indicate there's anything different
about installing Testing, and no recommendations that
newbies should stick with Stable. (The same
information is in the Debian FAQ.)

On Debian.org, don't you think you should include a
clearer explanation that Testing (and certainly,
Unstable) is for experienced Debian users only? I
would also start posting that around the Net---because
most people don't understand.

I'm just concerned that first-time Debian (or Linux!)
users are getting the same ideas I did, downloading
Testing, and having bad experiences. 

By the way, I've reinstalled Debian (the right way),
and it's awesome.  :?)

Cheers,  Andy

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Re: Debian a male-dominated organization

2003-05-19 Thread Gerfried Fuchs
* Dan Jacobson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-05-16 15:20]:
> Gentlemen, I just had a look at
> http://www.debian.org/intro/organization and realized Debian is a
> male-dominated organization, not that I have any ideas how to fix that
> or if it should be fixed.  Must reflect a general phenomenon.  OK,
> never mind.

 Debian is a _voluntary_ organization. Maybe women don't seem to be that
interested in working on a free operating system.

 I don't really see your point? Sorry. Btw., there's nothing the leader
can do about it when no women apply for being debian developers, so I
removed him from the Cc list (but he'll receive it anyway for he reads
debian-www afaik ;)

 Have fun,
Alfie
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Bug#193562: www.debian.org: Add a link to ftp-master.debian.org to the Developer's Corner.

2003-05-19 Thread Gerfried Fuchs
* "Jürgen A. Erhard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-05-17 04:46]:
> Oops.  I've searched the page, but for "ftp".
> It would be better to name it "Debian FTP archive" or similar.

 No, I don't think so. We try to get rid of FTP on the site for the use
of the FTProtocol is deprecated and shouldn't be advertised too much.

> OT: So ein Zufall, auch jemand aus Karlsruhe. :-)

 Well, the world is global village. There is a big bunch of people
coming from Karlsruhe, I guess. After all the LinuxTag is hosted there
nowadays.

 Have fun,
Alfie
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Bug#193562: www.debian.org: Add a link to ftp-master.debian.org to the Developer's Corner.

2003-05-19 Thread Josip Rodin
On Mon, May 19, 2003 at 01:16:10PM +0200, Gerfried Fuchs wrote:
> > Oops.  I've searched the page, but for "ftp".
> > It would be better to name it "Debian FTP archive" or similar.
> 
>  No, I don't think so. We try to get rid of FTP on the site for the use
> of the FTProtocol is deprecated and shouldn't be advertised too much.

Yeah. But still, a mention of "ftpmaster" or "ftp-master" will help, because
that's still the name of the group or the server, resp.

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www.debian.org - text link

2003-05-19 Thread buti

Hello

I will like to place text link in your site 
(www.debian.org).

How much does it cost?

Best regards :)

Buti 


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