Bug#173741: www.debian.org: Debian book links broken (external links on /doc/books)

2002-12-20 Thread Jay Bonci
Package: www.debian.org
Version: unavailable; reported 2002-12-19
Severity: minor

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There are two book links that are broken from the /doc/books page.

These are likely external link structures that have changed.

Debian GNU/Linux - Grundlagen, Installation, Administration und Anwendung
Author: Peter Ganten
Language: German
URL: http://www.springer.de/cgi-bin/search_book.pl?isbn=3-540-65841-6


Debian GNU/Linux - Best Linux Server
Author: Korean Debian Users
Language: Korean
Publisher: Hanbit Media
URL: http://www.hanbitbook.co.kr/look.htm?book_code=011018-1
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CD Included: 1 unofficial Woody, 3 Potato rev0

--jay




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Bug#173739: www.debian.org: This appears to be fixed

2002-12-20 Thread Jay Bonci
Package: www.debian.org
Version: unavailable; reported 2002-12-19
Followup-For: Bug #173739

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After checking back in about 20 minutes, the trouble appears to have been 
corrected. I'm closing the bug. 

Thanks

--jb

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Re: Debian jigdo mini-HOWTO

2002-12-20 Thread Peter Karlsson
Andrew Shugg:

> I don't have CVS write access; could someone apply this patch?  I
> haven't updated the translation version number in each file so that will
> need doing.

Please do not patch the translations this way, the changes in them do
not match the English original.

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Re: search.debian.org is online

2002-12-20 Thread Peter Karlsson
Craig Small:

> I brought it online now, it looks like it is working.  Could translaters
> who translate the stuff in /searchtmp/ let me know when you've done it
> and I'll add the language to the search page.

Do I need to do anything special more than translate the search.wml
(very few changes there) and the search strings in the PO file (those
were already translated)?

When I generate search.sv.html I get a file that is broken:

 1. It has comments before the DOCTYPE declaration.
 2. It declares UTF-8 encoding but the generated document is in my
local encoding (iso-8859-1).

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Re: Debian jigdo mini-HOWTO

2002-12-20 Thread Andrew Shugg
Peter Karlsson said:
> Andrew Shugg:
> > I don't have CVS write access; could someone apply this patch?  I
> > haven't updated the translation version number in each file so that will
> > need doing.
> 
> Please do not patch the translations this way, the changes in them do
> not match the English original.

I was expecting someone would apply the patch against the English file,
and translators for other languages would follow at their leisure.  The
only thing added to the other-language files was a '(mirror [en])' link
with "mirror" being in the respective language (as best as I could work
out from othere references in the same document), which I thought was
better than nothing.  If you change the English one to '(mirror [en])'
then it all matches nicely ...

Andrew.

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Re: Debian jigdo mini-HOWTO

2002-12-20 Thread Josip Rodin
On Fri, Dec 20, 2002 at 10:21:14AM +0800, Andrew Shugg wrote:
> --- webwml/english/CD/jigdo-cd/index.wml.orig   Sat Dec  7 10:03:33 2002
> +++ webwml/english/CD/jigdo-cd/index.wmlFri Dec 20 10:07:05 2002
> @@ -59,7 +59,9 @@
>  mini-HOWTO. The HOWTO also explains jigdo's advanced features,
>  such as upgrading an older version of a CD image to the current
>  version (by downloading only what has changed, not the entire new
> -image).
> +image). The mini-HOWTO is also 
> +http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/mini/Debian-Jigdo/";>available at 
> +the http://www.tldp.org/";>Linux Documentation Project.

That's confusing for users -- what is the significance of the fact it's
available at the LDP to the user who reads this? Will the users who happen
to stumble upon a broken www.dirac.org go back to our page, search for an
alternative link, and actually find it?

There should be one, working link. I think we should just change the URL to
use tldp.org, on whose availability we already depend for other pages.

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Re: Debian Banners

2002-12-20 Thread Gerfried Fuchs
* Gurkan Sengun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-12-20 00:08]:
> Now it looks like this:
> http://www.linuks.mine.nu/sarge-acupuncture.jpg
> There's also these two banners which are cool (imho)
> http://apt-get.mine.nu/woody-holycow-debian.jpg

 They are nice but we can't use them.  Or have you asked Pixar for
permission to use it?

 Have fun,
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Bug#173739: marked as done (www.debian.org: search.debian.org giving HTTP 500)

2002-12-20 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
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While it means you may be working on it, or may be currently moving it or what 
not, search.debian.org is giving me consistant HTTP 500 errors every page load. 
 Please feel free to close this if this is already known.

Thanks

--jay


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The 500s the search page was seeing was merely a temporary problem
associated with (what is now) obviously work being done on the search
function.

Closing this alert bug.

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Re: Debian jigdo mini-HOWTO

2002-12-20 Thread Richard Atterer
On Fri, Dec 20, 2002 at 10:23:49AM +0100, Josip Rodin wrote:
> There should be one, working link. I think we should just change the URL to
> use tldp.org, on whose availability we already depend for other pages.

OK, changed. I preferred the dirac.org link because the HOWTO
translations are easily accessible, but if the site is down...

  Richard

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Re: Debian jigdo mini-HOWTO

2002-12-20 Thread Andrew Shugg
Quoth Richard:
> On Fri, Dec 20, 2002 at 10:23:49AM +0100, Josip Rodin wrote:
> > There should be one, working link. I think we should just change the URL to
> > use tldp.org, on whose availability we already depend for other pages.
> 
> OK, changed. I preferred the dirac.org link because the HOWTO
> translations are easily accessible, but if the site is down...
> 
>   Richard

Does the LDP not carry translations provided by the upstream source?

And I do not see what is wrong with providing a backup link to a
document.  I mean, on that very same page, links are provided to Jigdo
files on a "USA mirror" and "European mirror".  Really, joy, I think
that refutes your own argument: there are two links to Jigdo sources so
that visitors can choose which source they wish to use, and have an
alternative if their first choice is unavailable (server down, machine
room on fire, ISP routing issues, etc).  Do you disagree on this?  If
so, then there are dozens of mirrors of the Debian web site for what
particular reason?  =)

Andrew.

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Re: Debian jigdo mini-HOWTO

2002-12-20 Thread Josip Rodin
On Fri, Dec 20, 2002 at 10:19:10PM +0800, Andrew Shugg wrote:
> > > There should be one, working link. I think we should just change the URL 
> > > to
> > > use tldp.org, on whose availability we already depend for other pages.
> > 
> > OK, changed. I preferred the dirac.org link because the HOWTO
> > translations are easily accessible, but if the site is down...
> 
> Does the LDP not carry translations provided by the upstream source?
> 
> And I do not see what is wrong with providing a backup link to a
> document.  I mean, on that very same page, links are provided to Jigdo
> files on a "USA mirror" and "European mirror".  Really, joy, I think
> that refutes your own argument: there are two links to Jigdo sources so
> that visitors can choose which source they wish to use, and have an
> alternative if their first choice is unavailable (server down, machine
> room on fire, ISP routing issues, etc).  Do you disagree on this?  If
> so, then there are dozens of mirrors of the Debian web site for what
> particular reason?  =)

Those mirrors exist because it's _often_ slow or impossible for users to
access the same site (www.d.o). (Well, that's one reason, the other reason
is plain old backwards compatibility or even inertia.) For this, we could
have one single site.

Another reason the patch was broken is because it didn't say "Here's the
HOWTO:  ", it said "Here's the , blah blah blah.
Here's another  to the same thing.". Remember how users only spend
eight seconds per page, and you'll notice the world of difference there :)
The questions in the first paragraph of my message touched this topic, but
didn't elaborate much on it.

Note that I'm in general all for redundancy via mirrors. Bug #171297
illustrates this nicely. :)

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Re: Debian Banners

2002-12-20 Thread Josip Rodin
On Fri, Dec 20, 2002 at 11:45:16AM +0100, Gerfried Fuchs wrote:
> > Now it looks like this:
> > http://www.linuks.mine.nu/sarge-acupuncture.jpg
> > There's also these two banners which are cool (imho)
> > http://apt-get.mine.nu/woody-holycow-debian.jpg
> 
>  They are nice but we can't use them.  Or have you asked Pixar for
> permission to use it?

I think we should just link to http://apt-get.mine.nu/.
That should provide users with these funky images and keep the legal trouble
a bit further away from us :)

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events reports

2002-12-20 Thread Gerfried Fuchs
Hi!

 I know that reports for the events are a good thing.  Unfortunately
they are not promoted correctly.  So I thought why not adding links to
them from the events overview pages directly?

 I am willing to provide a patch for that, changes to the following
templates: get_recent_list.wml, event.wml and past_event.wml, and of
course to the events that have reports in them.  I guess having a tag on
its own for the report is a good idea anyway, and the title should be
put into one of the po domains.

 Personally I think this is a good idea but I don't want to start with
it before the events people (is there someone else than Joey?) didn't
say that they at least don't dislike it.

 Have fun,
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Re: events reports

2002-12-20 Thread Martin Schulze
Gerfried Fuchs wrote:
> Hi!
> 
>  I know that reports for the events are a good thing.  Unfortunately
> they are not promoted correctly.  So I thought why not adding links to
> them from the events overview pages directly?

I don't understand.  Could you explain a little bit more verbose?

>  Personally I think this is a good idea but I don't want to start with
> it before the events people (is there someone else than Joey?) didn't
> say that they at least don't dislike it.

No, it's just me.

Regards,

Joey

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