Re: Canadian Company Claims RDF Patent

2002-01-04 Thread Martin Schulze
FYI, isn't that just a wonderful world of patents?

Regards,

Joey

http://slashdot.org/yro/02/01/04/0119215.shtml

Canadian Company Claims RDF Patent

*Posted by timothy[1] on Thursday January 03, @08:29PM*

*from the patenting dept.*

quinticent writes: "Looks like they are at it again. Companies
seem to like to let a standard become, well, standard before
pulling out the lawyers to claim they own a patent on it. Now some
Canadian company is claiming they own a US patent on RDF (doesn't
Slashdot use RDF?). When will the US government realize that
allowing patents on common ideas is just wrong? The CNet article
is here[2]." 

Links:
1. http://www.monkey.org/~timothy/
2. http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1005-200-8351560.html?tag=lthd

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/CD/

2002-01-04 Thread peter karlsson
What am I supposed to do about this?

make -C CD install
make[2]: Entering directory `/org/www.debian.org/webwml/swedish/CD'
make[2]: *** No rule to make target `../CD/pictures/menu-faq.sv.png', needed by 
`../../english/template/debian/cdimage.wml'.  Stop.

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Re: HTML syntax errors

2002-01-04 Thread Jaime E. Villate
On Thu, Jan 03, 2002 at 05:24:58PM -0500, James A. Treacy wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 03, 2002 at 09:22:37PM +, Jaime E. Villate wrote:
> > On Thu, Jan 03, 2002 at 03:44:31PM -0500, James A. Treacy wrote:
> > > In partners/index.en.html, the author wants to use a  in a list. Just
> > > change them to ? You really should be able to have paragraphs in a
> > > list.
> > You can have paragraphs inside listitems; in fact, I usually do the 
> > following:
> > 
> Take a look at partners/index.en.html . What is wrong with the  at
> line 129?

Ah, that's another fairly common mistake found in HTML pages:
You can only change the type of font inside ONE paragraph. Tags such as
, , , , etc cannot extend beyond the frontier of a
paragraph. You should replace:
   some text
   more text
by:
   some text
   more text

which is now valid HTML, but not XHTML. If you want valid XHTML, use:
   some text
   more text

In the case of partners/index.en.html, the same mistake appears in several
places. A quick way of fixing it is: s//<\/small>/
but only in lines 129-249. 

Cheers,
Jaime



Re: webwml failed

2002-01-04 Thread Martin Schulze
Beware of problems...

Debian Webmaster wrote:
> make[2]: Nothing to be done for `install'.
> make[2]: Leaving directory `/org/www.debian.org/webwml/croatian/y2k'
> make[1]: Leaving directory `/org/www.debian.org/webwml/croatian'
> make -C danish install
> make[1]: Entering directory `/org/www.debian.org/webwml/danish'
> make -C Bugs install
> make[2]: Entering directory `/org/www.debian.org/webwml/danish/Bugs'
> make[2]: Nothing to be done for `install'.
> make[2]: Leaving directory `/org/www.debian.org/webwml/danish/Bugs'
> make -C CD install
> make[2]: Entering directory `/org/www.debian.org/webwml/danish/CD'
> make -C vendors install
> make[3]: Entering directory `/org/www.debian.org/webwml/danish/CD/vendors'
> make[3]: *** No rule to make target `../../CD/pictures/menu-faq.da.png', 
> needed by `../../../english/template/debian/cdimage.wml'.  Stop.
> make[3]: Leaving directory `/org/www.debian.org/webwml/danish/CD/vendors'
> make[2]: [vendors-install] Error 2 (ignored)
> make[2]: Leaving directory `/org/www.debian.org/webwml/danish/CD'
> make -C MailingLists install
> make[2]: Entering directory `/org/www.debian.org/webwml/danish/MailingLists'
> make[2]: Nothing to be done for `install'.

Regards,

Joey

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Re: /CD/

2002-01-04 Thread Martin Schulze
peter karlsson wrote:
> What am I supposed to do about this?
> 
> make -C CD install
> make[2]: Entering directory `/org/www.debian.org/webwml/swedish/CD'
> make[2]: *** No rule to make target `../CD/pictures/menu-faq.sv.png', needed 
> by `../../english/template/debian/cdimage.wml'.  Stop.

Ah, I just noticed that as well... I guess you'd have to create a
swedish graphic for the menu bar.

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Re: /CD/

2002-01-04 Thread peter karlsson
Martin Schulze:

> Ah, I just noticed that as well... I guess you'd have to create a
> swedish graphic for the menu bar.

Yeah, but I couldn't find any instructions on how to do that...

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Bug#127508: www.debian.org: overly pixelated favicon

2002-01-04 Thread Josip Rodin
On Thu, Jan 03, 2002 at 05:34:20PM -0800, Tor Slettnes wrote:
> Josip> I'll look into it. (Just have to force myself to reboot to
> Josip> windows, blech.)
> 
> Or use Konqueror. :)

Konqueror can edit icon files?

> (Ironically, I have never seen/figured out how to show "favicon.ico"
> in MSIE, incl. v6.  Nor, for that matter, in Mozilla..)

It works just fine for me, just have it in the / of a web server.

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Re: HTML syntax errors

2002-01-04 Thread Jaime E. Villate
On Thu, Jan 03, 2002 at 05:19:20PM -0500, James A. Treacy wrote:
> I have no idea what the author intended with the html for the following:
> ** Errors validating /org/www.debian.org/www/ports/alpha/news.en.html: ***
> Line 255, character 26:  document type does not allow element "DIV" here;
missing one of "APPLET", "OBJECT", "MAP", "IFRAME", "BUTTON" start-tag

 is above in hierarchy than  and font-type tags such as. The tree
structure is:  div --> p --> b
That means that lines 255 and 258:

Now that slink has been released, I'm changing the


should be replaced by:

Now that slink has been released, I'm changing the


> ports/powerpc/inst/apus.en.html and ports/powerpc/inst/prep.en.html
> have a tag . No idea what that is.

It is an invention of the author, which doesn't exist in HTML; It seems that
he meant to tag program names in some way, and he must have thought that since
 is silently ignored by his browser, it was harmless. You can replace
 by  (or ) which are valid HTML
tags and serve the same purpose.

> ports/powerpc/inst/install.en.html includes lines like the following:
> 
>   Apple
>   
> 
> A little strange, but anything wrong with an empty row?

The DTD requires that all rows () have at least one  or . If you
replaced  it would work in HTML; but you really insist in keeping
that empty row, you'd better use:  

Cheers,
Jaime

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Re: HTML syntax errors

2002-01-04 Thread Josip Rodin
On Thu, Jan 03, 2002 at 05:19:20PM -0500, James A. Treacy wrote:
> There is a single error in Bugs/index.en.html I didn't look into.

Actually, we should simply use a better validator :)

% tidy -eq index.en.html
[...]
line 122 column 4 - Warning: missing  before 
line 123 column 7 - Warning: inserting implicit 
line 127 column 4 - Warning: missing  before 
line 127 column 7 - Warning: inserting implicit 
line 131 column 4 - Warning: missing  before 
line 131 column 7 - Warning: inserting implicit 
line 137 column 4 - Warning: missing  before 
line 137 column 7 - Warning: inserting implicit 
line 143 column 4 - Warning: missing  before 
line 143 column 7 - Warning: inserting implicit 
line 152 column 4 - Warning: missing  before 
line 152 column 7 - Warning: inserting implicit 
line 162 column 3 - Warning: discarding unexpected 
[...]

These warnings are much clearer.

> There are quite a number of problems in doc/maint-guide and
> doc/developers-reference

That's like doc/manuals, generated from DebianDoc-SGML.

> I have no idea what the author intended with the html for the following:
> ** Errors validating /org/www.debian.org/www/ports/alpha/news.en.html: ***
> Line 255, character 26:  document type does not allow element "DIV" here; 
> missing one of "APPLET", "OBJECT", "MAP", "IFRAME", "BUTTON" start-tag

Once again,

% tidy -eq news.en.html
[...]
line 255 column 7 - Warning: missing  before 
line 255 column 7 - Warning: trimming empty 
line 255 column 7 - Warning: trimming empty 
line 255 column 27 - Warning: inserting implicit 
line 258 column 7 - Warning: discarding unexpected 
line 258 column 11 - Warning: replacing element  by 
line 258 column 11 - Warning: inserting implicit 
[...]

> ports/powerpc/inst/apus.en.html and ports/powerpc/inst/prep.en.html
> have a tag . No idea what that is.

That's Chris mixing DebianDoc-SGML with HTML :) The tag is for program
names, and can be replaced with , , etc.

> ports/powerpc/inst/install.en.html includes lines like the following:
> 
>   Apple
>   
> 
> A little strange, but anything wrong with an empty row?

Yes, all of them (, , ) are mandatory...

% tidy -eq install.en.html
[...]
line 134 column 1 - Warning: trimming empty 
line 139 column 5 - Warning: missing 
line 154 column 5 - Warning: missing 
line 167 column 5 - Warning: missing 
line 173 column 5 - Warning: missing 
line 178 column 5 - Warning: missing 
line 183 column 5 - Warning: missing 
line 193 column 5 - Warning: missing 
line 201 column 5 - Warning: missing 
[...]

I'll fix some of these if I have the patience to wait -- I _again_ can't
reach klecker from home, and have to route ssh (cvs) through pandora...


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Re: HTML syntax errors

2002-01-04 Thread Josip Rodin
On Fri, Jan 04, 2002 at 10:06:41AM +, Jaime E. Villate wrote:
> > I have no idea what the author intended with the html for the following:
> > ** Errors validating /org/www.debian.org/www/ports/alpha/news.en.html: ***
> > Line 255, character 26:  document type does not allow element "DIV" here;
> missing one of "APPLET", "OBJECT", "MAP", "IFRAME", "BUTTON" start-tag
> 
>  is above in hierarchy than  and font-type tags such as. The tree
> structure is:  div --> p --> b
> That means that lines 255 and 258:
> 
> Now that slink has been released, I'm changing the
> 
> 
> should be replaced by:
> 
> Now that slink has been released, I'm changing the
> 

Or simply . That  is actually , converted to
 by WML.

> > ports/powerpc/inst/install.en.html includes lines like the following:
> > 
> >   Apple
> >   
> > 
> > A little strange, but anything wrong with an empty row?
> 
> The DTD requires that all rows () have at least one  or . If
> you replaced  it would work in HTML; but you really insist in
> keeping that empty row, you'd better use: 

Or  :)

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Re: HTML syntax errors

2002-01-04 Thread Denis Barbier
On Thu, Jan 03, 2002 at 03:44:31PM -0500, James A. Treacy wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 03, 2002 at 06:04:41PM +0100, Denis Barbier wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > http://people.debian.org/~barbier/validate/en contains a list of errors
> > reported by an HTML validator (wdg-html-validator) for all English pages
> > except /doc/manuals/ and /releases/.
> > Do we want to fix those syntax errors?
> > 
> The validator has some problems:

I don't think so ;)

> *** Errors validating /org/www.debian.org/www/mirror/ftpmirror.en.html: ***
> Line 148, character 76:  general entity "content-type" not defined and no 
> default entity

Such errors about entities are due to wrong URLs, one *must* write
   
instead of
   

Denis



Re: /CD/

2002-01-04 Thread Josip Rodin
On Fri, Jan 04, 2002 at 11:02:42AM +0100, peter karlsson wrote:
> > Ah, I just noticed that as well... I guess you'd have to create a
> > swedish graphic for the menu bar.
> 
> Yeah, but I couldn't find any instructions on how to do that...

See the TODO list :> I said already that the groundwork isn't complete...

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Re: HTML syntax errors

2002-01-04 Thread Denis Barbier
On Fri, Jan 04, 2002 at 11:12:20AM +0100, Josip Rodin wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 03, 2002 at 05:19:20PM -0500, James A. Treacy wrote:
> > There is a single error in Bugs/index.en.html I didn't look into.
> 
> Actually, we should simply use a better validator :)
> 
> % tidy -eq index.en.html
> [...]
> line 122 column 4 - Warning: missing  before 
> line 123 column 7 - Warning: inserting implicit 
> line 127 column 4 - Warning: missing  before 
[...]

I disagree, tidy is not a validator ;)
And
find /foo -name \*.html | xargs tidy -eq
is not very clear to my point of view.

But running tidy on individual files to understand some error messages is
indeed a very good idea.

Denis



Re: HTML syntax errors

2002-01-04 Thread Josip Rodin
On Fri, Jan 04, 2002 at 02:12:36PM +0100, Denis Barbier wrote:
> > > There is a single error in Bugs/index.en.html I didn't look into.
> > 
> > Actually, we should simply use a better validator :)
> > 
> > % tidy -eq index.en.html
> > [...]
> > line 122 column 4 - Warning: missing  before 
> > line 123 column 7 - Warning: inserting implicit 
> > line 127 column 4 - Warning: missing  before 
> [...]
> 
> I disagree, tidy is not a validator ;)

Erm, okay, "syntax checker" :) It's from W3 too.

> And
> find /foo -name \*.html | xargs tidy -eq
> is not very clear to my point of view.

Try this:

for i in *.html; do echo $i; tidy -eq $i 2>&1 | grep ^line; done | less

Works like a charm for me...

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Re: HTML syntax errors

2002-01-04 Thread James A. Treacy
The urls in the search results should be modified to escape ampersands.
For example,
2
to
2

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Images on /CD/

2002-01-04 Thread peter karlsson
The colours on the navigation images on /CD/ do not match the
background colour for the bar, which makes the bar look quite bad...
Is the gamma correction set incorrectly for the PNG images?

Please see http://www.softwolves.pp.se/privat/20020104_debian_CD.png
for an illustration.

See http://www.libpng.org/pub/png/pngapbr.html for more info on PNG
handling in browsers, especially in conjunction with web specified
colours. http://pmt.sourceforge.net/gamma_test/ is an interesting test
for the gamma.

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