Bug#120004: devel/website/using_cvs does not list everything needed to edit a language

[James A. Treacy]

On Sat, Nov 17, 2001 at 02:41:54PM -0600, Adam Heath wrote:
> Package: www.debian.org
> Tags: patch
> 
Modified version of patch applied so closing the bug.

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The following patch fixes $subject.

Index: english/devel/website/using_cvs.wml
===
RCS file: /cvs/webwml/webwml/english/devel/website/using_cvs.wml,v
retrieving revision 1.4
diff -u -r1.4 using_cvs.wml
--- english/devel/website/using_cvs.wml 2001/11/17 18:57:08 1.4
+++ english/devel/website/using_cvs.wml 2001/11/17 20:41:52
@@ -35,7 +35,7 @@
 To check out a copy of the wml files on your local machine, you need to use

 
-   cvs -d :pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/cvs/webwml checkout webwml/
+   cvs -d :pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/cvs/webwml checkout webwml/ 
webwml/Makefile.common webwml/.wmlrc webwml/touch_translations.pl webwml/Perl
 

 where  is the language you want. You will
@@ -44,13 +44,13 @@
 those needed, e.g.

 
-   cvs -d :pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/cvs/webwml checkout webwml/english/doc
+   cvs -d :pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/cvs/webwml checkout webwml/english/doc 
webwml/Makefile.common webwml/.wmlrc webwml/touch_translations.pl webwml/Perl
 

 If you have been given a username/password, insert it instead of anonymous

 
-   cvs -d :pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/cvs/webwml checkout webwml/english/doc
+   cvs -d :pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/cvs/webwml checkout webwml/english/doc 
webwml/Makefile.common webwml/.wmlrc webwml/touch_translations.pl webwml/Perl
 

 From then on, you will not need to use the '-d :pserver:...'
@@ -114,7 +114,7 @@
 checkout the repository using the following:

 
-   cvs -d :ext:account_name@cvs.debian.org:/cvs/webwml checkout 
webwml/english/
+   cvs -d :ext:account_name@cvs.debian.org:/cvs/webwml checkout 
webwml/english/ webwml/Makefile.common webwml/.wmlrc 
webwml/touch_translations.pl webwml/Perl
 

 Once you have checked out the repository everything else works as in the


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On Sat, Nov 17, 2001 at 02:41:54PM -0600, Adam Heath wrote:
> Package: www.debian.org
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> 
Modified version of patch applied so closing the bug.

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Bug#119993: devel/website/using_cvs is not clear on developer access

[James A. Treacy]

On Sat, Nov 17, 2001 at 12:58:37PM -0600, Adam Heath wrote:
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> 
> http://www.debian.org/devel/website/using_cvs#cvsfordevelopers
> 
> This part of the page is only useful for developers in the webwml group.  I
> believe the section title should be changed to reflect that.
> 
Section title now reads:
  CVS Write Access for Debian Developers

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Package: www.debian.org

http://www.debian.org/devel/website/using_cvs#cvsfordevelopers

This part of the page is only useful for developers in the webwml group.  I
believe the section title should be changed to reflect that.

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On Sat, Nov 17, 2001 at 12:58:37PM -0600, Adam Heath wrote:
> Package: www.debian.org
> 
> http://www.debian.org/devel/website/using_cvs#cvsfordevelopers
> 
> This part of the page is only useful for developers in the webwml group.  I
> believe the section title should be changed to reflect that.
> 
Section title now reads:
  CVS Write Access for Debian Developers

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Re: Availability of changelogs at packages.debian.org?

[Fabrice Lorrain \(home\)]

"James A. Treacy" wrote:
> 
...
>  - for efficiency the extraction script should extract the changelog.gz
>changelog.debian.gz and copyright file all in one go.
The copyright file is not really needed.
...
> To prevent an overly large, flat directory I would suggest creating a
> cache that mirrors the archive pool directory structure.
Why not using the pool directory directly?

Fab

Bug#119993: devel/website/using_cvs is not clear on developer access

[Josip Rodin]

Adam Heath wrote:
> http://www.debian.org/devel/website/using_cvs#cvsfordevelopers
> 
> This part of the page is only useful for developers in the webwml group.  I
> believe the section title should be changed to reflect that.

I disagree. The section describes clearly what's necessary, there's no need
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Re: Debian WWW CVS commit by treacy: webwml/english/Bugs Makefile index.wml pkgrepo ...

[peter karlsson]

Debian WWW CVS:

> Added files:
>   english/Bugs   : pkgreport-opts.inc

If this is going to be outside the translation-check system, shouldn't
it be sliced and included only from the English directory?

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Re: woody install manual and www.d.o/releases/woody/

[Josip Rodin]

Hi,

Sorry I didn't reply sooner. The network link of my primary mail host is down.
Please CC: answers here.

Adam wrote:
> I'd like to get the woody installation manual online at
> www.d.o/releases/woody/.  This involves both getting that in place and
> also WML revisions to the releases/woody area.
>
> Regarding building the manual, Josip has been doing that historically.
> It's aprocess of doing 'make doc-web; make mirror-to-master' off the
> boot-floppies CVS (HEAD).  I believe Josip has a cron job running to
> do that --- is that true?  Is it running?  Can you have it CC me on
> any failure messages so we can keep this functioning on an ongoing
> basis?

It's not running, I thought you saw my last mails. The compilation breaks
for some reason.

> Regarding the WML revisions needed, is anyone maintaining that area?
> It doesn't seem like anyone is.  We need to get on this.  Having it in
> good shape would help Debian woody install testers since it provides
> current information and online help.
> 
> We should copy stuff over from the releases/potato area rather than
> start from scratch, IMHO.  There's scripts to produce links to all the
> versions of the documentation.  Can anyone get that?  I _could_ do it
> (after the manuals are put in place) but I'm a bit busy with
> boot-floppies maintenance.

Yeah, I'll work on this.

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Re: Error in package search CGI scripts.

[Josip Rodin]

Hi,

I've fixed the script and also symlinked search_packages to
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Bug#100641: marked as done (bugs.d.o, packages.d.o: broken again for packages with + in name)

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Package: www.debian.org
Version: N/A; reported 2001-06-12
Severity: normal

Someone must have done changes to break this again, IIRC I had checked
that the fix (by Jay IIRC) was working a couple of months ago...

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Hi,

I've applied Matt's patch, it seems to be working fine, g++ is found.

The notes at the top of search_packages script are somewhat confusing and
don't seem to be true, so I've added another one below... Jay?

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distrib

[Josip Rodin]

Hi,

I don't believe the "distrib" directory is too useful like it is.

It does contain things that relate to the distribution, but that's both
ambiguous, because it can mean both Linux distribution and the act of
distributing in general, and unclear, because there's stuff in there that
can be named differently.

The point of most of the index page is rather blurry to me. It doesn't look
well thought out. The books page belongs among the other documentation web
pages. The ftplist page can fit in better either as a new toplevel page or
as an "entrance" for the mirror web pages (I should work on several
different mirror listings anyway). The packages page is so often visited
that it surely deserves to be in the top level, or something. And the stuff
about vendors (CDs, pre-installed machines, misc/merchandise even?) can get
its own directory.

In short, I'd like to shuffle that stuff a bit. The translations and
redirections included, of course. Comments?

(Please CC: answers to me, otherwise I'll read them belatedly in the archive)

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Email of the danish web maintainer

[Christian Precht Jensen]

Hi can you please send the email of the danish 
maintainers of your web pages email because i found some corrections for your 
sites!
 
thanks
 
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Re: Email of the danish web maintainer

[Kaare Olsen]

On Sun, 18 Nov 2001 16:47:28 +0100, Christian Precht Jensen wrote:

>Hi can you please send the email of the danish maintainers of your web pages 
>email because i found some corrections for your sites!

I've replied directly to the sender.

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Bug#98799: marked as done (www.debian.org: add information of "How to add info to BTS")

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Package: www.debian.org
Version: 20010526
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If I send a report to BTS, I get auto reply mail.  The mail has
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  If you wish to submit further information on your problem, please send
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This is useful information for other users too, but 
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Hi,

I've added the info about adding info to existing bug reports :)

Thanks for the report.

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Re: Availability of changelogs at packages.debian.org?

[James A. Treacy]

On Sun, Nov 18, 2001 at 09:55:18AM +0100, Fabrice Lorrain (home) wrote:
> "James A. Treacy" wrote:
> > 
> ...
> >  - for efficiency the extraction script should extract the changelog.gz
> >changelog.debian.gz and copyright file all in one go.
> The copyright file is not really needed.

Maybe not for you, but it is requested frequently.
Besides, the extra resources needed to grab that file along with the
others is negligible.

> > To prevent an overly large, flat directory I would suggest creating a
> > cache that mirrors the archive pool directory structure.
> Why not using the pool directory directly?
> 
That is part of the archive and would unnecessarily enlarge it.

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Re: Availability of changelogs at packages.debian.org?

[Chris Tillman]

On Sun, Nov 18, 2001 at 02:58:10PM -0500, James A. Treacy wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 18, 2001 at 09:55:18AM +0100, Fabrice Lorrain (home) wrote:
> > "James A. Treacy" wrote:
> > > 
> > ...
> > >  - for efficiency the extraction script should extract the changelog.gz
> > >changelog.debian.gz and copyright file all in one go.
> > The copyright file is not really needed.
> 
> Maybe not for you, but it is requested frequently.
> Besides, the extra resources needed to grab that file along with the
> others is negligible.
> 
> > > To prevent an overly large, flat directory I would suggest creating a
> > > cache that mirrors the archive pool directory structure.
> > Why not using the pool directory directly?
> > 
> That is part of the archive and would unnecessarily enlarge it.
> 

So, you're thinking along the lines of a cgi that would initially
respond to a user's 'littledoc' request by extracting just the pieces
we want from the .tgz, and present the info to the user. And then it
would store that info in a disk cache file so the next user to request the
same info wouldn't cause it to re-extract? Each server's cache file
would have different contents based on what requests it's
seen. Wouldn't that make servers' resource needs hard to predict?

BTW, I mentioned the README because it sometimes would give a better
idea of what the package does. Some package descriptions are obtuse or
just plain too brief to convey understanding.
 
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Re: Availability of changelogs at packages.debian.org?

[James A. Treacy]

On Sun, Nov 18, 2001 at 08:12:59PM -0700, Chris Tillman wrote:
> 
> So, you're thinking along the lines of a cgi that would initially
> respond to a user's 'littledoc' request by extracting just the pieces
> we want from the .tgz, and present the info to the user. And then it

Any request from package foo would cause all the relevant files from
that file to be put in the cache. Also, the files would be extracted
from the .deb since they are in a know location there.

> would store that info in a disk cache file so the next user to request the
> same info wouldn't cause it to re-extract? Each server's cache file

Yes.

> would have different contents based on what requests it's
> seen. Wouldn't that make servers' resource needs hard to predict?
> 
It's not clear what you mean by "each server's cache". The cgi script
would be handled from one machine so only that machine would need the
cache. My guess is you believe there is a connection between the debian
web stuff and the debian archive. There isn't.

> BTW, I mentioned the README because it sometimes would give a better
> idea of what the package does. Some package descriptions are obtuse or
> just plain too brief to convey understanding.
>  
The README is missing from enough packages that creating a link for it
would confuse many people. Also, it is frequently used for the same
thing as an INSTALL file making the results even less useful. In fact,
a file containing a README that only contains installation instructions
should have a bug filed against it.

If a package has a long description that isn't useful, file a bug.
Even better, include a possible replacement text.

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Bug#116936: marked as done ([PATCH]: cvs.debian.org instructions confusing)

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Package: www.debian.org
Version: N/A; reported 2001-10-24
Severity: wishlist

The instructions at cvs.debian.org telling how to check out projects 
from cvs are confusing.  People often try to check out a project like this:
cvs -d :pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/cvs/boot-floppies login

but they should do:

cvs -d :pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/cvs/debian-boot login

I suggest the following patch to /etc/viewcvs.conf on klecker.  
Should this sort of thing be a bug against ftp.debian.org?, 
sent to debian-admin?, other?

Thanks,


David

--- viewcvs.conf.orig   Wed Feb 28 21:56:08 2001
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@@ -276,6 +276,7 @@
 
 Debian CVS repositories are available via anonymous CVS pserver using a
 CVSROOT of :pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/cvs/project-root. 
+Where project-root is one of the projects you see listed in the 
pull-down menu below (debian-boot, debian-doc etc.).
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Fixed so closing the bug.
Thanks for the feedback.

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Bug#120003: Comments

[Josip Rodin]

Hi,

Whether touch_translations.pl fails or not has no influence on the integrity
of the .html file that wml file outputted, AFAIR. So I don't think this
change is necessary.

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Re: Availability of changelogs at packages.debian.org?

[Chris Tillman]

On Sun, Nov 18, 2001 at 03:28:16PM -0500, James A. Treacy wrote:

> It's not clear what you mean by "each server's cache". The cgi script
> would be handled from one machine so only that machine would need the
> cache. My guess is you believe there is a connection between the debian
> web stuff and the debian archive. There isn't.

Ah hah. So all cgi links from mirrors go to one central server.

> The README is missing from enough packages that creating a link for it
> would confuse many people. Also, it is frequently used for the same
> thing as an INSTALL file making the results even less useful. In fact,
> a file containing a README that only contains installation instructions
> should have a bug filed against it.
> 
> If a package has a long description that isn't useful, file a bug.
> Even better, include a possible replacement text.

Fair enough.

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Bug#120003: Comments

[Adam Heath]

On Sun, 18 Nov 2001, Josip Rodin wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Whether touch_translations.pl fails or not has no influence on the integrity
> of the .html file that wml file outputted, AFAIR. So I don't think this
> change is necessary.

If that's the case, then why have touch_translations at all?

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