Bug#59947: www.debian.org: put some useful links on the search page
Package: www.debian.org Version: 2308 Severity: wishlist Since the search page still requests we "be patient", perhaps it would be useful to link to other working debian searches from http://www.debian.org/search : http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages http://www.debian.org/Lists-Archives/#search http://www.debian.org/Bugs/
Re: devel/index
On Wed, Mar 08, 2000 at 08:08:46PM +0100, Javier Fdz-Sanguino Pen~a wrote: > > I will add this information to the HOWTO_translate right now, under > the information on how to use > I notice that you added the info to devel/HOWTO_translate instead of devel/website/uptodate . Could you add it there? -- James (Jay) Treacy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Vote pages need some work
On Thu, Mar 09, 2000 at 08:01:06PM +1100, Craig Small wrote: > Those vote pages need some work, they should probably explain where > votes are mentioned, have a bit more about how to get a ballot > (eg what is a "vote name" ?). > > Also how do you know the elections are running? Unless you know the > secret url. > > If no-one volunteers, I'll fix it myself. > Go right ahead. -- James (Jay) Treacy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#59965: www.debian.org: new-maintainer@debian.org is closed, but still advertised
Package: www.debian.org Version: 2309 Severity: normal http://www.debian.org/devel/help should explain that [EMAIL PROTECTED] is closed due to the revising of the policies. It's annoying to get all the stuff you need for being a debian developer and then finding out that the last step isn't possible anymore. -- System Information Debian Release: 2.2 Kernel Version: Linux forcix 2.2.15pre11 #1 Mon Mar 6 21:48:19 CET 2000 i686 unknown
Re: Getting rid of the makefles [was Re: devel/index]
On Wed, 8 Mar 2000, James A. Treacy wrote: > On Tue, Mar 07, 2000 at 08:02:52PM +0100, peter karlsson wrote: > > > > And in addition to changing to the above, all the Makefiles need to be > > rewritten, so that the translations all depend on the originals. > > > You may want to consider implementing this some other way since we > may be getting rid of the Makefiles. > > The issues are: > CONS > - they are more flexible > - wmk is slower than make. make will quickly ignore all files that > don't need to be built. wmk stalls for a bit on every file. It may be > possible to avoid this by building a dependency file ahead of time, > but I haven't looked into it. This is indeed feasible, WMk could produce a fragment of Makefile containing dependencies. But WMk does not know how to read it, so you have to run make. Note that i have never had any feedback on those dependency issues, so this is still experimental. Another (major) drawback of WMk is that the -A and -F flags only apply to files, not dirs. There is actually no way to skip scanning a subdir. [...] > Additionally, we'd need to decide where the files are built (no 'make > install' to install them elsewhere). The possibilities are: > - move all translations into one directory. The html gets left in that > directory. > This gets ugly quickly: 10 files times 15 translations times 2 (.wml and > ..html) is 300 files. This would also require that the mirrors ignore > .wml files (not a big deal). > - Force the html files to be created in another directory (the > equivalent of doing 'make install' in the current system). I'm not > sure how to implement this in wml. When you specify the -o option, you > don't have access to much of the power of wml. This makes it difficult > to the the dest dir correct. Another idea is to use the VPATH feature of GNU make, but it does not work. IMHO you should stay with Makefiles since WMk is not flexible enough for your needs. But if some people have suggestions on how to improve WML and WMk, i will be glad to discuss with them. Regards -- Denis Barbier WML Maintainer
Re: Getting rid of the makefles [was Re: devel/index]
James A. Treacy: > - Force the html files to be created in another directory (the equivalent of > doing > 'make install' in the current system). I'm not sure how to implement this in > wml. When you specify the -o option, you don't have access to much of the > power > of wml. This makes it difficult to the the dest dir correct. Just an idea: Build them to the local translation directory, and then have a global Makefile that recurses into all directories and copies the files to the right place? That Makefile could also be the one that starts the wml processing. -- \\// peter - http://www.softwolves.pp.se/
Re: devel/index
Done. Javi On Wed, Mar 08, 2000 at 08:55:27PM -0500, James A. Treacy wrote: > On Wed, Mar 08, 2000 at 08:08:46PM +0100, Javier Fdz-Sanguino Pen~a wrote: > > > > I will add this information to the HOWTO_translate right now, under > > the information on how to use > > > I notice that you added the info to devel/HOWTO_translate instead of > devel/website/uptodate . Could you add it there? > > -- > James (Jay) Treacy > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
FWD: packages
- Forwarded message from Mark Sutton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2000 09:56:57 -0500 (EST) From: Mark Sutton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: packages Dear Joey Hess, I like the Debian News feature and read it regularly. Thanks for the work you do. I have one comment that I think would help the web site be better but I do not know the work involved. It may also be that the information is already there and I don't know how to access it. I like the list of new packages that is included each newsletter but find the brief description fustrating. My natural reaction is to click on the link to the package. When I do that I go to the package page and it gives me a list of dependencies and where to download the package. Is it possible to add a link to the documentation for the code or to a more complete description? I dislike having to download the package just to see if I am interested in using it. To be more explicit in the current newsletter is the package description: unison: A file-synchronization tool for Unix and Windows I am at a loss on how to find more information about this package without downloading the package and installing it. Thanks Mark Sutton - End forwarded message - -- see shy jo
Re: devel/index
On Wed, Mar 08, 2000 at 08:55:27PM -0500, James A. Treacy wrote: > > I will add this information to the HOWTO_translate right now, under > > the information on how to use > > I notice that you added the info to devel/HOWTO_translate instead of > devel/website/uptodate . Could you add it there? BTW, is devel/HOWTO_translate.wml and devel/HOWTO_work.on.website.wml still used? If not, shouldn't they be deleted, and links adjusted to point to /devel/website/index.wml ? -- enJoy -*/\*- don't even try to pronounce my first name
Re: FWD: packages
On Thu, Mar 09, 2000 at 11:10:27AM -0800, Joey Hess wrote: > When I do that I go to the package page and it gives me > a list of dependencies and where to download the package. I don't know what page he looked at, but the package pages such as e.g. http://www.debian.org/Packages/unstable/base/dpkg.html display the full description, along with the short one. -- enJoy -*/\*- don't even try to pronounce my first name
Re: FWD: packages
On Thu, Mar 09, 2000 at 08:46:05PM +0100, Josip Rodin wrote: > On Thu, Mar 09, 2000 at 11:10:27AM -0800, Joey Hess wrote: > > When I do that I go to the package page and it gives me > > a list of dependencies and where to download the package. > > I don't know what page he looked at, but the package pages such as e.g. > > http://www.debian.org/Packages/unstable/base/dpkg.html > > display the full description, along with the short one. I guess what he meant was that the 'long' description is still not enough, and he would like to see the whole package's documentation online. Marcin -- - Marcin Owsiany [EMAIL PROTECTED] -
Re: devel/index
On Thu, Mar 09, 2000 at 08:38:21PM +0100, Josip Rodin wrote: > On Wed, Mar 08, 2000 at 08:55:27PM -0500, James A. Treacy wrote: > > > I will add this information to the HOWTO_translate right now, under > > > the information on how to use > > > > I notice that you added the info to devel/HOWTO_translate instead of > > devel/website/uptodate . Could you add it there? > > BTW, is devel/HOWTO_translate.wml and devel/HOWTO_work.on.website.wml still > used? If not, shouldn't they be deleted, and links adjusted to point to > /devel/website/index.wml ? > I have already changed most of the links to point to devel/website/ . It is a good idead to wait a few weeks after making changes in links to give people a chance to find the new one. Yeah, I could forward, or put text in the old file telling of the new loc, but I'm lazy. :) Anyway, it is about time to remove the old versions. I'll also double check for any links to the old loc. -- James (Jay) Treacy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FWD: packages
On Thu, Mar 09, 2000 at 08:46:05PM +0100, Josip Rodin wrote: > On Thu, Mar 09, 2000 at 11:10:27AM -0800, Joey Hess wrote: > > When I do that I go to the package page and it gives me > > a list of dependencies and where to download the package. > > I don't know what page he looked at, but the package pages such as e.g. > > http://www.debian.org/Packages/unstable/base/dpkg.html > > display the full description, along with the short one. > Exactly. If the description doesn't give enough usefule information, then a bug should be filed against the package. Ripping packages apart to grab arbitrary files(*) is out of the question, IMO. (*)I don't consider the copyright or changelogs to be arbitrary files. -- James (Jay) Treacy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
