Re: Y2k :-)

2000-01-06 Thread Craig Small
James A. Treacy said:
> On Wed, Jan 05, 2000 at 08:36:08AM +0100, Marcin Owsiany wrote:
> > I just thought this should be changed..
> > "With the year 2000 fast approaching "
> > 
> Craig, could you update (or simply replace) the y2k page with information
> on the packages that had y2k problems? The DWN has a good list of packages
> that suffered y2k problems. Note that wml is not on the list. It was fixed
> long ago in potato, but the slink version has some problems.
I've just added in the ones that had problems.

> After that, the section on the main page should be changed to the following:
Done that now too.

   - Craig

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Re: CD vendors

2000-01-06 Thread Craig Small
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
>   I'm about to purchase Debian on CD here in Spain. I have sent an email
>   to the 5 spanish vendors listed and I have received about 3 unknown
>   address errors, nobody has answered. Now, I'm browsing through their
>   web sites and it seems that only "Ciberdroide" and "Agora" exist. I'm
>   telling this just in case you are going to update this list.

I will investigate, sometimes you can have temporary problems.

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Re: broken distributor

2000-01-06 Thread Craig Small
Jonas Ek said:
> The Belgian site doese'nt exist!
> 
> Belgien
> Distribut_r: BeNeLinux
> Webbadress: http://users.skynet.be/benelinux

So it seems, strange.  I think they may of moved website and not
told me.  I will have a look around.

  - Craig

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Debian CD Vendor Page - broken link

2000-01-06 Thread Craig Small
G'day,
  I am the Debian webmaster that looks after the CD vendor's page found
at http://www.debian.org/distrib/vendors

It seems the website you have given me no longer has your information.
Can you tell me if you still sell Debian CDs and what the address of
your new site is.

  - Craig

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Re: CD Verkaeufer

2000-01-06 Thread Craig Small
Craig Small said:
> > www.rrbs.de is unreachable, forbidden, maybe now another URL
> I'll look into this one too.  Thanks for letting us know about these.

Still not there, removing entry.


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Re: CD Verkaeufer

2000-01-06 Thread Craig Small
Craig Small said:
> Maximilian Eberl said:
> I got a reply from the nettstore people.
> NS> We just didn't start selling Debian but will do so within the next 7
> NS> days.
> NS> So, please don't remove us since we will be offering Debian in very near
> NS> future! :-)
> I guess it is a case of watch that space.  I'll check again in a week
> or so.
nettstore now sells Debian.

> > www.rrbs.de is unreachable, forbidden, maybe now another URL
> I'll look into this one too.  Thanks for letting us know about these.
Removed.

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Re: CD vendors

2000-01-06 Thread Craig Small
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
>   I'm about to purchase Debian on CD here in Spain. I have sent an email
>   to the 5 spanish vendors listed and I have received about 3 unknown
>   address errors, nobody has answered. Now, I'm browsing through their
>   web sites and it seems that only "Ciberdroide" and "Agora" exist. I'm
>   telling this just in case you are going to update this list.

I can only see 4 vendors in Spain.
cworldtele has a web site and sells Debian.  interec has a website but I
couldn't see them mention Debian.

Can you tell me which ones the mail bounced for?

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Re: Vendor list

2000-01-06 Thread Craig Small
Alexander Kitzberger said:
> I want to distribute Debian/GNU Linux. For that reason, I would be glad if you
> could set the following data on the vendor list:

I have done it.

> And please tell me how it works,  to give a contibution to the Debian project.
I'm not sure, I'll pass this on to our SPI people.

  - Craig

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SPI Website broken

2000-01-06 Thread Craig Small

http://www.spi-inc.org/ shows the Debian webpages and not the SPI ones.
I guess we need more virtual server magic fu.

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Re: SPI Website broken

2000-01-06 Thread Martin Schulze
Craig Small wrote:
> 
> http://www.spi-inc.org/ shows the Debian webpages and not the SPI ones.
> I guess we need more virtual server magic fu.

I guess this is a result of the change of the major IP number of va.

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Re: SPI Website broken

2000-01-06 Thread Martin Schulze
Martin Schulze wrote:
> Craig Small wrote:
> > 
> > http://www.spi-inc.org/ shows the Debian webpages and not the SPI ones.
> > I guess we need more virtual server magic fu.
> 
> I guess this is a result of the change of the major IP number of va.

Indeed.  I corrected it, all hosted pages should be back online.
Sorry for forgetting to change the address here.

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Re: SPI Website broken

2000-01-06 Thread James A. Treacy
On Thu, Jan 06, 2000 at 12:06:03PM +1100, Craig Small wrote:
> 
> http://www.spi-inc.org/ shows the Debian webpages and not the SPI ones.
> I guess we need more virtual server magic fu.
> 
Try it now. Someone went in and fixed it while I was editing the file. :)

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language_names

2000-01-06 Thread Yoshizumi Endo
As you know, some language_names at the bottom of each pages are
broken for conflict of character set.  I think that to use "character
entity references" is an adequate solution to avoid this problem.

  "Character entity references in HTML 4.0"
  http://www.w3.org/TR/1998/REC-html40-19980424/sgml/entities.html

For example:

  Español  -> Español
  Româná   -> Românã
  français -> français

Also, "character entity references" can handle multibyte-characters
with ISO10646 code set.

  Japanese (Chinese characters) -> 日本語
  Chinese  (Chinese characters) -> 中文

I've committed new Japanese language_name with the "character entity
references".  Then, if you have modern web browser (ex. mozilla M12 or
IE5) and appropriate font-sets, you can read Japanese language_name at
the bottom of the English top page.

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Y2k problems with lists archives

2000-01-06 Thread Martin Schulze
Since it has annoyed me long enough, Tommi Virtanen, Petr Eech and
me have investigated the problem and worked out a patch.  If it
works, the archives for 2000 are back online tomorrow.  If it
doesn't, well, then they're still not online and we need some
more black magic...

Regards,

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Re: Y2k problems with lists archives

2000-01-06 Thread Cesar Mendoza
Hi,

I have been working with the lists-archives package and submited y2k fixes
to Johnie Ingram the current maintainer. I have it working at
http://www.kitiara.org/Lists-Archives . If you want to take a look to my
fixes contact me.

Bye
Cesar Mendoza
http://www.kitiara.org

On Thu, 6 Jan 2000, Martin Schulze wrote:

> Since it has annoyed me long enough, Tommi Virtanen, Petr Eech and
> me have investigated the problem and worked out a patch.  If it
> works, the archives for 2000 are back online tomorrow.  If it
> doesn't, well, then they're still not online and we need some
> more black magic...
> 
> Regards,
> 
>   Joey
> 
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Re: language_names

2000-01-06 Thread James A. Treacy
Thanks for this useful information.

Since most people won't have fonts installed to handle characters in
other charsets, this won't buy us much for now. We should still
make the change because it will prepare us for the future and
because it is the Right Thing.

On Fri, Jan 07, 2000 at 12:06:17AM +0900, Yoshizumi Endo wrote:
> As you know, some language_names at the bottom of each pages are
> broken for conflict of character set.  I think that to use "character
> entity references" is an adequate solution to avoid this problem.
> 
>   "Character entity references in HTML 4.0"
>   http://www.w3.org/TR/1998/REC-html40-19980424/sgml/entities.html
> 
> For example:
> 
>   Español  -> Español
>   Româná   -> Românã
>   français -> français
> 
All the language names in english/template/debian/language_names.wml
should be converted to this form. BTW, someones editor keeps changing
certain characters. For example ¼ is converted to 1/4. Using
character entity references should stop this problem.

> Also, "character entity references" can handle multibyte-characters
> with ISO10646 code set.
> 
>   Japanese (Chinese characters) -> 日本語
>   Chinese  (Chinese characters) -> 中文
> 
> I've committed new Japanese language_name with the "character entity
> references".  Then, if you have modern web browser (ex. mozilla M12 or
> IE5) and appropriate font-sets, you can read Japanese language_name at
> the bottom of the English top page.
> 
One thing that confuses me (which may simply be a symptom of a
greater misunderstanding): will this work when the translations are
encoded using their native charset, e.g. iso-8859-1? My impression was
that the pages would need to be encoded entirely in something like
ISO10646 for this to work.

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Re: When you going Public??? (fwd)

2000-01-06 Thread Craig Small
Something for the webmasters to consider too, we tend to get this sort
of thing a lot on webamster email :/

Nils Lohner said:
> 
> We get 'going public?' messages regularly at [EMAIL PROTECTED], and Joey came 
> up 
> with one of the more original responses lately (and an appropriate randomly 
> generated .sig).  Enjoy!
> 
> Nils.
> 
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> 
> Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 02:19:18 +0100
> From: Martin Schulze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: (someone)
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: When you going Public???
> 
> (someone) wrote:
> > I want to know when you plan to go public.. I think You product is the
> > best...  Thanks for such a good product..
> 
> We *are* already going public.  The distribution is found at ftp.debian.org,
> http.us.debian.org, the web pages are at www.debian.org with links to the
> distribution, many vendors have picked up this distribution to sell or
> to base their work on.
> 
> Regards,
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Re: New CD vendor in Norway!

2000-01-06 Thread Craig Small
Espen Vestre said:
> We are the biggest Linux store in Norway and we sell a lot of Debian official
> distributions and cheap CDs. We are not new on the market, but we have not got
> our name on your "CD vendors page". If you could do so, we would be very
> pleased!. You can check us out on: 
> 
> www.linuxbutikken.no

Can you tell me the difference between you guys and this entry?

   Vendor: LiNUX Butikken
   URL: http://www.xperiment.net/
   Allows Contribution to Debian: No Country: Norway
   Ship International: No
   email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   CD Type: Official CD

Or is this you and you just didn't tell me your change of email and web
addresses?

> PS: Thank you for a great Linux distribution and your hard work!
Well you could always change that "Allows Contribution" line to
"yes"

  - Craig

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website's debian logo

2000-01-06 Thread Anthony Wong
Hi all,

As pointed out in the past that the Debian logo being used in all our
pages are not the 'real' one, I think it's good to change it to use
the correct version.

For the swirl we can copy logos/openlogo-nd-50.jpg to Pics/logo-50.jpg,
for the word "debian", I have made the jpeg version from the eps logo,
you can have a look at

http://master.debian.org/~ypwong/debian-new.jpg

Should I commit them to the CVS?

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Re: website's debian logo

2000-01-06 Thread James A. Treacy
On Fri, Jan 07, 2000 at 06:43:39AM +0800, Anthony Wong wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> As pointed out in the past that the Debian logo being used in all our
> pages are not the 'real' one, I think it's good to change it to use
> the correct version.
> 
> For the swirl we can copy logos/openlogo-nd-50.jpg to Pics/logo-50.jpg,

Go ahead and commit this part.

> for the word "debian", I have made the jpeg version from the eps logo,
> you can have a look at
> 
> http://master.debian.org/~ypwong/debian-new.jpg
> 
It's not clear to me what was wrong with the old version of this. If
you feel it is important to switch, go ahead. My only reservation is
that the new image is 178x61 whereas the old is 179x61. If changing
is a pain, we can simply recreate all the pages.

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Re: website's debian logo

2000-01-06 Thread Anthony Wong
On Thu, Jan 06, 2000 at 06:17:20PM -0500, James A. Treacy wrote:
|On Fri, Jan 07, 2000 at 06:43:39AM +0800, Anthony Wong wrote:
|
|> For the swirl we can copy logos/openlogo-nd-50.jpg to Pics/logo-50.jpg,
|
|Go ahead and commit this part.

ok.

|> for the word "debian", I have made the jpeg version from the eps logo,
|> you can have a look at
|> 
|> http://master.debian.org/~ypwong/debian-new.jpg
|> 
|It's not clear to me what was wrong with the old version of this. If
|you feel it is important to switch, go ahead. My only reservation is
|that the new image is 178x61 whereas the old is 179x61. If changing
|is a pain, we can simply recreate all the pages.

If you look closely you will find that the letters are different :)
I think we should stick to the original design (besides I think it's
prettier too :)
To ensure that nothing breaks, I'll add one more line of pixel to the
image to make the width to be 179 pixels wide. I'll commit later
today.

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Re: website's debian logo

2000-01-06 Thread Darren O. Benham
Yes.. *do* commit and *do* copy the logos/ image like you suggested.

Also.. make sure you change something and commit the template that uses
(basic.wml?  I'll have to check it out) so that the pages are remade with
the proper HEIGHT and WIDTH parameters... WML installs these automagicly

On Fri, Jan 07, 2000 at 06:43:39AM +0800, Anthony Wong wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> As pointed out in the past that the Debian logo being used in all our
> pages are not the 'real' one, I think it's good to change it to use
> the correct version.
> 
> For the swirl we can copy logos/openlogo-nd-50.jpg to Pics/logo-50.jpg,
> for the word "debian", I have made the jpeg version from the eps logo,
> you can have a look at
> 
> http://master.debian.org/~ypwong/debian-new.jpg
> 
> Should I commit them to the CVS?
> 
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Re: Y2k problems with lists archives

2000-01-06 Thread Darren O. Benham
The y2K is partially fixed... the archive are being saved correctly now.. I
havn't found how to get 2000 into the index page, though...

On Thu, Jan 06, 2000 at 04:16:46PM +0100, Martin Schulze wrote:
> Since it has annoyed me long enough, Tommi Virtanen, Petr Eech and
> me have investigated the problem and worked out a patch.  If it
> works, the archives for 2000 are back online tomorrow.  If it
> doesn't, well, then they're still not online and we need some
> more black magic...
> 
> Regards,
> 
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Re: Y2k problems with lists archives

2000-01-06 Thread Martin Schulze
Darren O. Benham wrote:
> The y2K is partially fixed... the archive are being saved correctly now.. I
> havn't found how to get 2000 into the index page, though...

That's what we tried this afternoon.  Wait for the next cron to
find out if we did the correct thing.

> On Thu, Jan 06, 2000 at 04:16:46PM +0100, Martin Schulze wrote:
> > Since it has annoyed me long enough, Tommi Virtanen, Petr Eech and
> > me have investigated the problem and worked out a patch.  If it
> > works, the archives for 2000 are back online tomorrow.  If it
> > doesn't, well, then they're still not online and we need some
> > more black magic...

Regards,

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