Re: Question to Martin: How are your Grants and Paid DPL Proposals Differnt than Dunc-Tanc
On 15354 March 1977, Martin Michlmayr wrote: Really? Taking off weekends unless there's something urgent is "problematic"? For a volunteer, unpaid position? No. Taking time off is fine. I do that too, sometimes, or I wouldn't be a DD anymore after all this time. Announcing a set time where you basically won't be doing some work does create (IMO negative) expectations and will end up with people trying to steer around it. Especially for those that may only have those times available and now see "OH, can't deal with you then" -- bye, Joerg
Re: Debian presence on newer platforms
On Wed, 27 Mar 2019, Jonas Meurer wrote: > Hi Alex, > > Alexander Wirt: > > On Tue, 26 Mar 2019, Jonas Meurer wrote: > >> Alexander Wirt: > >>> In my experience as a former mailman admin and listadmin mailman is a > >>> no-go. > >>> Getting our feature set even nearly into mailman is impossible, takes > >>> years > >>> and will just get us an unmaintainable thing. I don't want to ever run a > >>> bigger mailman setup again. > >> > >> Can you give an example, what from "our feature set" is missing in > >> mailman? Also, you probably mean mailman2, right? Have you taken a look > >> at mailman3 recently? > > > > Sure, just a few coming into mind: > > > > All those gpg related features we use, our spam removal tools, our special > > archiving hacks, we way we support blacklist through several lists, our > > second line of spamfiltering, crossassassin, the way we can do management on > > several lists and probably a lot more I forgot. It may take man years to do > > a > > migration (in fact we talked about that a few days ago in our internal IRC > > channel and this is more or less consense about the needed effort). > > Thanks for elaborating on that. At least some of them might be > interesting to submit as mailman3 feature requests as they probably > would be of help for other projects that use mailman3 as well. > > I fully understand that you as the listmasters don't consider to switch > right now though. > > > And I tested hyperkitty some time ago with our archive and it was > > unusable slow. > > Interesting. I wonder how Fedora deals with this. I haven't used their > archives extensively, but from quick tests it appeared to be quite > responsive. One question that came into mind: which problems with our lists do you think mailman would solve? If its list archives: provide (or let someone do so) a hyperkitty plugin for reading our mboxes (bonus points if its able to also remove mails from it afterwards (gpdr, spam). Alex signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Question to Martin: How are your Grants and Paid DPL Proposals Differnt than Dunc-Tanc
Hi Joerg On 2019/03/27 09:26, Joerg Jaspert wrote: > On 15354 March 1977, Martin Michlmayr wrote: >> Really? Taking off weekends unless there's something urgent is >> "problematic"? For a volunteer, unpaid position? > > No. Taking time off is fine. I do that too, sometimes, or I wouldn't be > a DD anymore after all this time. > > Announcing a set time where you basically won't be doing some work does > create (IMO negative) expectations and will end up with people trying to > steer around it. Especially for those that may only have those times > available and now see "OH, can't deal with you then" Personally, I thought it was a rather weak attempt at a rebuttal. I don't think a single person will have a problem if I perform any routine admin requests that come in over the weekend on Monday morning, and obviously as per my platform, if it's any kind of urgent I'll just get it to it right then, no problem, so someone who can only communicate over weekends should be covered. I would say this is by far the most imaginary problem I've seen in all the platforms that I've read. -Jonathan -- ⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀ Jonathan Carter (highvoltage) ⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ Debian Developer - https://wiki.debian.org/highvoltage ⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋ https://debian.org | https://jonathancarter.org ⠈⠳⣄ Be Bold. Be brave. Debian has got your back.
