Re: current A.6 draft

2002-11-27 Thread Andrew Pimlott
On Sun, Nov 24, 2002 at 02:54:31PM -0500, Raul Miller wrote:
>   b. A defeat (A,X) is weaker than a defeat (B,Y) if A is not
>  the default option and V(A,X) is less than V(B,Y).  Also,
>  (A,X) is weaker than (B,Y) A is not the default option and if
>  V(A,X) is equal to V(B,Y) and V(X,A) is greater than V(Y,B).

I think you left out the definition of weaker for the default
option, no?  Actually, before I noticed that you exclude the default
option, I was going to say I like this.  I think that using the
supermajority ratio when determining defeats, but not when
determining strength of defeats, is probably the best policy.  An
example that motivates this is in my message with subject
"supermajority options".

Other comments on the draft:

- Please use either tabs or spaces consistently.  ;-)

- Not handling general (non int-1) supermajority ratios would be
  silly.  As long as it will be understood that the n in n:1
  need not be a whole number, there's no problem.  But it might
  be better to mention this possibility explicitly.

- I find use of terms before their definitions jarring.  But
  since nobody else has complained, that's may just be me.

Andrew



Re: current A.6 draft

2002-11-27 Thread Matthias Urlichs
Hi,

Andrew Pimlott:
> - Please use either tabs or spaces consistently.  ;-)
> 
Seconded.
> 
> - I find use of terms before their definitions jarring.  But
>   since nobody else has complained, that's may just be me.
> 
IMHO it's unusual, but I actually like it that way. The reader can easily
skip the details for later if you're just interested in the general
overview.

Turn it around, and they'll be flooded with details you don't know what
they're useful for until four paragraphs later. 

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2002-11-27 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi Folks,

I have just relocated. Unfortunately, the DSL folks report
 huge backlogs, and are unable to provide me a connection; so I'll be
 off the network until they do come in and connect me.

I am going to be in Washington, DC for 2.5 weeks in December,
 and may be able to participate on the network. I shall have no access
 to my keys, and shall be unable to transact most official business.

I do apologize for any inconvenience caused, especially since
 the voting GR is so close to being coming to an head.

manoj
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 I got the bill for my surgery.  Now I know what those doctors were
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Re: current A.6 draft

2002-11-27 Thread Andrew Pimlott
On Sun, Nov 24, 2002 at 02:54:31PM -0500, Raul Miller wrote:
>   b. A defeat (A,X) is weaker than a defeat (B,Y) if A is not
>  the default option and V(A,X) is less than V(B,Y).  Also,
>  (A,X) is weaker than (B,Y) A is not the default option and if
>  V(A,X) is equal to V(B,Y) and V(X,A) is greater than V(Y,B).

I think you left out the definition of weaker for the default
option, no?  Actually, before I noticed that you exclude the default
option, I was going to say I like this.  I think that using the
supermajority ratio when determining defeats, but not when
determining strength of defeats, is probably the best policy.  An
example that motivates this is in my message with subject
"supermajority options".

Other comments on the draft:

- Please use either tabs or spaces consistently.  ;-)

- Not handling general (non int-1) supermajority ratios would be
  silly.  As long as it will be understood that the n in n:1
  need not be a whole number, there's no problem.  But it might
  be better to mention this possibility explicitly.

- I find use of terms before their definitions jarring.  But
  since nobody else has complained, that's may just be me.

Andrew


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Re: current A.6 draft

2002-11-27 Thread Matthias Urlichs
Hi,

Andrew Pimlott:
> - Please use either tabs or spaces consistently.  ;-)
> 
Seconded.
> 
> - I find use of terms before their definitions jarring.  But
>   since nobody else has complained, that's may just be me.
> 
IMHO it's unusual, but I actually like it that way. The reader can easily
skip the details for later if you're just interested in the general
overview.

Turn it around, and they'll be flooded with details you don't know what
they're useful for until four paragraphs later. 

-- 
Matthias Urlichs | noris network AG | http://smurf.noris.de/



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Incommunicado for a bit

2002-11-27 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi Folks,

I have just relocated. Unfortunately, the DSL folks report
 huge backlogs, and are unable to provide me a connection; so I'll be
 off the network until they do come in and connect me.

I am going to be in Washington, DC for 2.5 weeks in December,
 and may be able to participate on the network. I shall have no access
 to my keys, and shall be unable to transact most official business.

I do apologize for any inconvenience caused, especially since
 the voting GR is so close to being coming to an head.

manoj
-- 
 I got the bill for my surgery.  Now I know what those doctors were
 wearing masks for. James Boren
Manoj Srivastava   <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
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