Re: my platform for Debian Project Leader
Branden Robinson wrote: > Nevertheless, if elected DPL, I realize that I turn the temperature > down on my occasional email flame of a fellow developer. That's a > sacrifice I'm willing to make. It's funny that someone who wants to be the Project Leader uses the word "sacrifice" here. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: my platform for Debian Project Leader
On Thu, Feb 22, 2001 at 04:29:15PM +0100, Santiago Vila wrote: > Branden Robinson wrote: > > Nevertheless, if elected DPL, I realize that I turn the temperature > > down on my occasional email flame of a fellow developer. That's a > > sacrifice I'm willing to make. > > It's funny that someone who wants to be the Project Leader uses the > word "sacrifice" here. Yes, that's a correct diagnosis. It was indeed humour. Heaven forbid a DPL with a sense of humour ;) Jules -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [platform] My little self-pumping/ego-trip/self-righteous speech :)
"So, my intention is to find a way to allow new maintainers in, with less
permissions than we give now, and less hassle ("got a gpg key?", "got a
picture?", "ok, you're on the 'new meat' crew"). This means people who
want to get their feet wet, can, and without them worrying about
breaking things, and without us worrying about them accidentally messing
up, or intentionally destroying. The trick here is to make this as easy
as possible to administrate, and set enough control in place to actually
enforce it. I haven't really gotten all of that hardcoded yet, so I'll
eventually look to all of you for suggestions (not flames, suggestions)."
What's a Ben Collins post on NMs without me replying? Excuse the different
address, my Linux machine is down.
What I want to know is, essentially:
What does "less permissions" mean exactly?
Considering I'm waiting on DAM (well, hopefully, all mail for me is starting
to bounce now), this affects me.
I'd also like to point out that the NM queue is ALREADY a pain in the arse.
Have you been through it? Obviously not. Try going through it as an unknown,
not one of your precious little "senior developers" or people you
fast-tracked through, just your average Joe Blow. First, you wait for an AM.
Then, they say: "Got a GnuPG key?" "Yes." "Get it signed by a DD." "" "Make 2 or 3 lintian-clean packages
and chuck 'em on an apt archive." Then they'll hand you over to the DAM.
Excluding the time that my machine's been down (up soon, hopefully), I spent
32 days waiting for DAM approval, not once did I recieve a single email, not
even a response to "Please resend anything if you have sent it to me, as I
have not recieved anything, thankyou." Suckage.
Would your trojan horse really wait 4 months? I'm starting to get very
pissed off and thinking of withdrawing, and I want to be a real^Wnew (the
difference being reliability, etc, in Ben Collins's eyes, we're all evil and
stupid, remember?) maintainer.
Oops! That bit's wrong! I forgot that you had to get advocated by another DD
before you even *think* about doing anything. So, if we actually *do* find
this trojan horse, I think we can yell at the advocate and key-signer.
d, who is too tired to replicate his .sig
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Re: my platform for Debian Project Leader
On Thu, Feb 22, 2001 at 04:15:19PM +, Jules Bean wrote: > On Thu, Feb 22, 2001 at 04:29:15PM +0100, Santiago Vila wrote: > > Branden Robinson wrote: > > > Nevertheless, if elected DPL, I realize that I turn the temperature > > > down on my occasional email flame of a fellow developer. That's a > > > sacrifice I'm willing to make. > > > > It's funny that someone who wants to be the Project Leader uses the > > word "sacrifice" here. > > Yes, that's a correct diagnosis. It was indeed humour. > > Heaven forbid a DPL with a sense of humour ;) Fraternal Debian Droids, When Elected Leader I will.. Kill all humans! err. -- Brian Russo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Debian/GNU Linux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.debian.org LPSG "member"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.lpsg.org -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
two questions for DPL nominees
i have two questions for all of you: 1. what is your stance(*) on some of the recent controversial topics aka flame-wars within debian? - non-free archives? - sluggish new maintainer process? - other inflammable issues? (*) please give just brief 1 or 2 paragraph statements of your positions, not a thesis or argument :) i want to find out what you think about these issues, not trigger a repeat of the flamewars (so please, people, just accept the responses as statements of opinion and not as an invitation to dispute) 2. what action, if any, do you intend to take on these issues? craig -- craig sanders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> GnuPG Key: 1024D/CD5626F0 Key fingerprint: 9674 7EE2 4AC6 F5EF 3C57 52C3 EC32 6810 CD56 26F0 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: my platform for Debian Project Leader
On Thu, Feb 22, 2001 at 04:29:15PM +0100, Santiago Vila wrote: > Branden Robinson wrote: > > Nevertheless, if elected DPL, I realize that I turn the temperature > > down on my occasional email flame of a fellow developer. That's a > > sacrifice I'm willing to make. > > It's funny that someone who wants to be the Project Leader uses the > word "sacrifice" here. i thought it was quite amusing and perfectly in character for branden. he's acknowledging what some people would consider a fault and saying he'll moderate himself a bit. "sacrifice" also seems an appropriate word to use - what else would you call refraining from flaming someone who well and truly deserves it? craig -- craig sanders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> GnuPG Key: 1024D/CD5626F0 Key fingerprint: 9674 7EE2 4AC6 F5EF 3C57 52C3 EC32 6810 CD56 26F0 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: my platform for Debian Project Leader
Branden Robinson wrote: > Nevertheless, if elected DPL, I realize that I turn the temperature > down on my occasional email flame of a fellow developer. That's a > sacrifice I'm willing to make. It's funny that someone who wants to be the Project Leader uses the word "sacrifice" here.
Re: my platform for Debian Project Leader
On Thu, Feb 22, 2001 at 04:29:15PM +0100, Santiago Vila wrote: > Branden Robinson wrote: > > Nevertheless, if elected DPL, I realize that I turn the temperature > > down on my occasional email flame of a fellow developer. That's a > > sacrifice I'm willing to make. > > It's funny that someone who wants to be the Project Leader uses the > word "sacrifice" here. Yes, that's a correct diagnosis. It was indeed humour. Heaven forbid a DPL with a sense of humour ;) Jules
Re: [platform] My little self-pumping/ego-trip/self-righteous speech :)
"So, my intention is to find a way to allow new maintainers in, with less
permissions than we give now, and less hassle ("got a gpg key?", "got a
picture?", "ok, you're on the 'new meat' crew"). This means people who
want to get their feet wet, can, and without them worrying about
breaking things, and without us worrying about them accidentally messing
up, or intentionally destroying. The trick here is to make this as easy
as possible to administrate, and set enough control in place to actually
enforce it. I haven't really gotten all of that hardcoded yet, so I'll
eventually look to all of you for suggestions (not flames, suggestions)."
What's a Ben Collins post on NMs without me replying? Excuse the different
address, my Linux machine is down.
What I want to know is, essentially:
What does "less permissions" mean exactly?
Considering I'm waiting on DAM (well, hopefully, all mail for me is starting
to bounce now), this affects me.
I'd also like to point out that the NM queue is ALREADY a pain in the arse.
Have you been through it? Obviously not. Try going through it as an unknown,
not one of your precious little "senior developers" or people you
fast-tracked through, just your average Joe Blow. First, you wait for an AM.
Then, they say: "Got a GnuPG key?" "Yes." "Get it signed by a DD." "3 pages of DFSG & DSC questions here>" "Make 2 or 3 lintian-clean packages
and chuck 'em on an apt archive." Then they'll hand you over to the DAM.
Excluding the time that my machine's been down (up soon, hopefully), I spent
32 days waiting for DAM approval, not once did I recieve a single email, not
even a response to "Please resend anything if you have sent it to me, as I
have not recieved anything, thankyou." Suckage.
Would your trojan horse really wait 4 months? I'm starting to get very
pissed off and thinking of withdrawing, and I want to be a real^Wnew (the
difference being reliability, etc, in Ben Collins's eyes, we're all evil and
stupid, remember?) maintainer.
Oops! That bit's wrong! I forgot that you had to get advocated by another DD
before you even *think* about doing anything. So, if we actually *do* find
this trojan horse, I think we can yell at the advocate and key-signer.
d, who is too tired to replicate his .sig
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Re: my platform for Debian Project Leader
On Thu, Feb 22, 2001 at 04:15:19PM +, Jules Bean wrote: > On Thu, Feb 22, 2001 at 04:29:15PM +0100, Santiago Vila wrote: > > Branden Robinson wrote: > > > Nevertheless, if elected DPL, I realize that I turn the temperature > > > down on my occasional email flame of a fellow developer. That's a > > > sacrifice I'm willing to make. > > > > It's funny that someone who wants to be the Project Leader uses the > > word "sacrifice" here. > > Yes, that's a correct diagnosis. It was indeed humour. > > Heaven forbid a DPL with a sense of humour ;) Fraternal Debian Droids, When Elected Leader I will.. Kill all humans! err. -- Brian Russo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Debian/GNU Linux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.debian.org LPSG "member"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.lpsg.org -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
