Re: Trick to burning a bootable Debian CD?
Greetings, What freeware utilities are available that could be used to check the boot sector/MBR of a Debian boot CD using a Windows machine? After burning the CD the directory structure looks the way it should, but I'd like to verify the correct location and content (maybe via a checksum?) of the boot sector. Only Windows machines are presently available to me. Steve K.
Re: Trick to burning a bootable Debian CD?
The machine boots just fine using a purchased Debian CD in the same drive. The burned (and newer) CD "looks" the same using a windows machine, but I'd like to dig a little deeper. I thought the resulting filesystem might not start at the right sector, and some utilities might be available for use on a Windows machine, such as the way FIPS will examine a hard drive. . - Original Message - From: "Tony Godshall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Steve Kleiser" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2004 1:23 PM Subject: [debian] Re: Trick to burning a bootable Debian CD? > Actually, there's > > According to Steve Kleiser, > > Greetings, > > > > What freeware utilities are available that could be used to check the boot sector/MBR of a Debian boot CD using a Windows machine? > > This is probably the wrong place to ask about DOS/Windows > utils, but you could do this: > > 1. get a lnx-bbc or knoppix or morphix or other > run-linux-live-from-CD. knoppix and morphix at least are > actually Debian. > > 2. boot in live run-from-cd environment ;-) Poke around > with the usual Linux tools. > > There is a 1.44MB BIOS/DOS-format floppy image on the CD- there is not > "boot sector" kind of thing on a CD outside of that. > > > After burning the CD the directory structure looks the way it should, but I'd like to verify the correct location and content (maybe via a checksum?) of the boot sector. Only Windows machines are presently available to me. > > Perhaps the real problem is elsewhere. Is the target an old > machine? Many of those can't read CD's written at higher > speeds- try writing at 4X or less. Is the target machine's > BIOS set to boot off CD? If not you won't get it to boot > off any CD, Debian or not. > > -- Tony Godshall > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [debian] Re: Trick to burning a bootable Debian CD?
The burned CD-RW will not boot, even though it looks very much the same as a purchased CD-R which does. So the .iso file was successfully translated into a (an apparently good) file system, which doesn't boot. I've tried both track at once, and disk at once, but have lost track of the various combinations of features and options tested. In fact, I think some of the Debian how-tos related to disk burning advice using only track at once. Are you sure disk at once is more trouble free? I've been using the freebie version of Roxio that was bundled w/ my PC. (EZ CD Creator 5 Basic. I'm on a very tight budget). - Original Message - From: "James Foster" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "debian helping" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2004 2:18 AM Subject: [debian] Re: Trick to burning a bootable Debian CD? > Are you just looking for a way to check that the disc is 100% correct, > or are you actually having problems booting off the burned disc? If it > is the latter, you most likely burned it as track-at-once rather than > disc-at-once. Which CD burning program are you using? > > > On Thu, 15 Jul 2004 01:26:40 -0500, Steve Kleiser > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The machine boots just fine using a purchased Debian CD in the same drive. > > The burned (and newer) CD "looks" the same using a windows machine, but I'd > > like to dig a little deeper. I thought the resulting filesystem might not > > start at the right sector, and some utilities might be available for use on > > a Windows machine, such as the way FIPS will examine a hard drive. > > . > > > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Tony Godshall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "Steve Kleiser" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2004 1:23 PM > > Subject: [debian] Re: Trick to burning a bootable Debian CD? > > > > > Actually, there's > > > > > > According to Steve Kleiser, > > > > Greetings, > > > > > > > > What freeware utilities are available that could be used to check the > > boot sector/MBR of a Debian boot CD using a Windows machine? > > > > > > This is probably the wrong place to ask about DOS/Windows > > > utils, but you could do this: > > > > > > 1. get a lnx-bbc or knoppix or morphix or other > > > run-linux-live-from-CD. knoppix and morphix at least are > > > actually Debian. > > > > > > 2. boot in live run-from-cd environment ;-) Poke around > > > with the usual Linux tools. > > > > > > There is a 1.44MB BIOS/DOS-format floppy image on the CD- there is not > > > "boot sector" kind of thing on a CD outside of that. > > > > > > > After burning the CD the directory structure looks the way it should, > > but I'd like to verify the correct location and content (maybe via a > > checksum?) of the boot sector. Only Windows machines are presently available > > to me. > > > > > > Perhaps the real problem is elsewhere. Is the target an old > > > machine? Many of those can't read CD's written at higher > > > speeds- try writing at 4X or less. Is the target machine's > > > BIOS set to boot off CD? If not you won't get it to boot > > > off any CD, Debian or not. > > > > > > -- Tony Godshall > > > > > > > -- > > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Trick to burning a bootable Debian CD?
Greetings, Although able to boot from a (purchased) Debian 3.0 i386 Install #1 NON-US CD, the CD I burned using Roxio Easy CD Creator 5 Basic and debian-30r2-i386-binary-1_NONUS.iso won't boot in the same Pentium desktop clone. The directory structures of the two CDs appear to be identical (in Windows98 Explorer). Is that CD image not bootable? Is there more preparation required to make the resulting CD Linux bootable? (It was burned as a data CD.) Is there a simple way to verify the MBR? Thanks, Steve K.
Re: [other] Re: Trick to burning a bootable Debian CD?
So does that mean the official CD images are not bootable? - Original Message - From: "Alvin Oga" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Micha Feigin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2004 8:53 PM Subject: [other] Re: Trick to burning a bootable Debian CD? > > hi ya > > On Sun, 20 Jun 2004, Micha Feigin wrote: > > > Its not enough to copy all the files to the cd (which is probably what > > you did if you burned it in data mode). You need to make the cd > > bootable by burning a basic system and marking where to find those > > files. > > yup.. > > a bootable cdrom will have /syslinux installed and you'd probably > want to tweek the rc files and initrd into whatever the cd will be > doing > > its simplest to take an existing bootable cdrom, > - disasemble it > ( mount -t iso9660 -o ro,loop=/dev/loop0 $ISO /mnt/cdrom ) > $ISO is your cdrom or an *.iso image > - replace or insert what you want ... > - tweek what you want ( the fun part ) > - remove the junk > - remake the new bootable *.iso image ( mkisofs ) > > - magic > > c ya > alvin > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Trick to burning a bootable Debian CD?
Burning the CD as an image using Roxio Easy CD Creator 5 on my WindowsXP machine results in a CD with a directory structure that looks like it should, from Explorer (it's comparable to my purchased CD, which does boot). Presumably, the image also provided any required system files. But can I confirm that from within WindowsXP? Also, is it OK to use a CD-RW, or is there some subtle difference? Does the CD need to formatted first, or would that just impress "non-Linux-ness" onto it? Are there any freeware utilities to burn an ISO image to CD (e.g., iso2CD.exe or something) that run under Windows? The CD burning applications appear to contain numerous features I don't need for this particular purpose, and which only serve as potential sources of error. - Original Message - From: "Kent West" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, June 21, 2004 6:10 PM Subject: [debian] Re: [other] Re: Trick to burning a bootable Debian CD? > Steve Kleiser wrote: > > >So does that mean the official CD images are not bootable? > > > > > > > > > No; they are bootable. But you have to burn them as an "image", not as > files. How to do that will depend on the burner software you're using. > > -- > Kent > > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Re: rick to burning a bootable Debian CD?
Greetings, The problem has been solved. After noticing that the resulting burned CD-RW was readable and bootable on other PCs, and after comparing the boot blocks of both the burned and purchased CDs were very similar, Janet (my wife) suggested that the CDROM drive (of the PC on which I wanted to install Debian) might be too old to recognize the burned CD-RW. She was exactly right. The drive was replaced with a new one, the PC booted from the new Debian CD-RW, and Debian has now been installed. So there is some difference in readability between the purchased and burned CDs (format?). Thanks to everyone for their suggestions. Now I'll move on to setting up the Stealth64 VRAM video card!
