enigmail and Debian

2003-02-18 Thread Stephan Seitz
Hi!

Has someone packaged enigmail for Debian? I can download the code from
the web and install it. But when other packages run
update-mozilla-chrome, the menu entries for enigmail are removed (or
so it seems).

What I have to do, so enigmail stays on the system without
reeinstalling it everytime?

Shade and sweet water!

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Re: Mozilla and Enigmail

2003-02-20 Thread Stephan Seitz
Hi!

On Thu, Feb 20, 2003 at 03:35:37PM +0100, Michael Bona wrote:
> Yup, used to have the same problem. Has something to do with Debian
> Mozilla being compiled with different gcc then Enigmail.

Seems so.

> Solution: Get Enigmail for Debian, available on
> http://enigmail.mozdev.org/download.html 
> look for Debian. 

Those are only versions for the old mozilla 1.0. I had to recompile
the enigmail sources (and before that compiling the mozilla sources).
Then it worked for me. But it seems enigmail is not registered in the
"debian way", because an update-mozilla-chrome removes the menu
entries for enigmail.

So I would like to see an debian packet for enigmail.

Shade and sweet water!

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Re: php4/libc6 problems

2003-03-21 Thread Stephan Seitz
Hi!

On Fri, Mar 21, 2003 at 05:16:58PM +0200, Barak Korren wrote:
[lib6 php4 conflicts snipped]

> Did anyone else encounter this problem?

Yes, it was announced in some Debian MLs.

> Is there a workaround for this?

I used the new libc6 package from unstable. It doesn't conflict with
php4 anymore. Or you can force overwrite the dependencies and install
php4 manually.

> I can not keep going like this for much longer, php is important for my 
> work.

If you are using testing you really should read Debian's announce MLs.

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mozilla, utf-8, and Japanese fonts

2003-03-22 Thread Stephan Seitz
Hi!

I'm using a self compiled mozilla (1.3-3) with mozilla-xft.

I noticed that some pages with utf-8 and Japanese characters don't
display correctly. Have a look at
http://fsing.fs.uni-sb.de/~stse/manga.html

I see missing kanji and kana. I can do a copy and paste, and if I
start to mark some text, missing characters will be displayed.

If I deinstall mozilla-xft everything works fine again.
Can somebody reproduce this? Is this a bug in mozilla or libxft?
The same problem occurs with 1.2.1.

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Re: Bash terminal beep - how to shut it up?

2003-01-29 Thread Stephan Seitz
Hi!

On Wed, Jan 29, 2003 at 09:26:11AM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Come to think of it, how can I shut this up system-wide?

From /etc/inputrc:
set bell-style none

Then restart bash.

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Re: Spamassassin

2003-10-07 Thread Stephan Seitz
Hi!

On Wed, Oct 08, 2003 at 12:40:33AM +0200, Nicos Gollan wrote:
You need to bootstrap the bayesian filter with at least 250 spam and 
Is there a download possibility to get so much spam mails? Since I 
delete my spam, I don't have enough mails to train spamassassin.

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Re: bayesian spamassassin throwing error

2003-10-13 Thread Stephan Seitz
Hi!

On Sat, Oct 11, 2003 at 08:19:39AM -0400, Nori Heikkinen wrote:
Cannot open bayes_path /home/nori/.spamassassin/bayes R/O: 
Cannot open bayes_path /home/nori/.spamassassin/bayes R/W: File exists
Learned from 0 messages.
Cannot open bayes_path /home/nori/.spamassassin/bayes R/W: File exists
Cannot open bayes_path /home/nori/.spamassassin/bayes R/W: File exists
Cannot open bayes_path /home/nori/.spamassassin/bayes R/O: 
Cannot open bayes_path /home/nori/.spamassassin/bayes R/W: File exists
Look at README.Debian, section "Upgrading from perl5.6:"
This could be the problem.
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Re: NFS support?

2002-10-11 Thread Stephan Seitz

Hi!

On Fri, Oct 11, 2002 at 08:42:18AM -0600, Dave Price wrote:
> When I do "mount -t NFS" i get: mount: fs type NFS not supported by kernel

Maybe you should write it in lower case?
mount -t nfs?

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Re: XMMS and ogg

2002-10-18 Thread Stephan Seitz
Hi!

On Fri, Oct 18, 2002 at 12:43:32PM +0200, Raffaele Sandrini wrote:
> files. There is also no ogg output plugin located in the output dir.

No, its name is libvorbis.so.

> Do i have to install some additional packages to bring ogg to live
> on my system?

Yes. you need libvorbis0, libogg0 and libvorbisfile3, too.

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Re: XMMS goes silent when moving windows

2002-10-22 Thread Stephan Seitz
Hi!

On Tue, Oct 22, 2002 at 03:01:20PM +0200, Nils-Erik Svangård wrote:
> When I move a window in X windows, using blackbox, xmms goes silent
> after a couple of seconds.

Not only this. If I view a WWW side in mozilla with many different fonts
(e.x. www.debian.de), then the X server hangs. And then xmms hangs,
too. Other players like the alsaplayer don't stop if even the X server
hangs.

Shade and sweet water!

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Re: msttcorefonts

2002-10-24 Thread Stephan Seitz
Hi!

On Thu, Oct 24, 2002 at 12:08:59AM +0100, Ben Thompson wrote:
> works fine normally, but not on this system. The installer works
> fine, it downloads the packages and says ther are no problems, but I
> don't see any fonts in Mozilla or anywhere else. Please could

Yes, msttcorefonts uses now defoma to register the fonts. To use the
fonts in X you need the package x-ttcidfont-conf, too.
You get two new FontPath lines for XF86Config-4 (I hope, you use XFree
4) or your font server. x-ttcidfont-conf will ask you for which font
module the font files should be created, freetype or xtt. Choose the
same type your X server use (look at the module section in
XF86Config-4).

Alas, msttcorefonts doesn't clean itself properly from the fonts.*
files in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TrueType. If you don't have fonts
there anymore, remove the FontPath or edit the fonts.* files.

Shade and sweet water!

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xmms doesn't work well with alsa

2002-10-29 Thread Stephan Seitz
Hi!

I have a Soundblaster Live and didn't have any problems with alsa
until rc3.

I'm using xmms with the xmms-alsa output plugin. Since rc3 xmms
segfaults sometimes with the message:

ALSA lib pcm_hw.c:292:(snd_pcm_hw_hw_params) SNDRV_PCM_IOCTL_HW_PARAMS
failed: Nicht genügend Hauptspeicher verfügbar
Unable to install hw params
Xlib: unexpected async reply (sequence 0x23e5d)!
Segmentation fault

"Nicht genügend Hauptspeicher verfügbar" means "not enough memory",
the main memory, but I have 768 MB physical memory and about 600 MB
swap. That shoud be enough.

Switching to the oss output plugin xmms doesn't crash but it skips
sometimes songs or skips part of them. xmms produces the messages:

** WARNING **: SNDCTL_DSP_SPEED ioctl failed: Nicht genügend
Hauptspeicher verfügbar
** WARNING **: SNDCTL_DSP_SETFMT ioctl failed: Nicht genügend
Hauptspeicher verfügbar

I can reproduce the errors with ogg123 using alsa09 or oss output
sometimes, but much less than using xmms. alsaplayer doesn't have any
problems (*knock on wood*).

Switching back to 0.9.0rc1+2 solves the problem for days, but then it
started again. Since then, there was a new alsa package, so I tried
0.9.0rc3-0.3 (updated all alsa and libasound packages). It doesn't
solve the problem. I don't see any reasons why this error occurs.
The systems neither had a high load nor was much memory used (values
from xosview).

Does somebody have the same problems? What could this be?

The system ist Debian/Testing.

Shade and sweet water!

Stephan

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Re: xmms doesn't work well with alsa

2002-10-29 Thread Stephan Seitz
Hi!

On Tue, Oct 29, 2002 at 08:27:02PM +0100, Bache Kharazmi wrote:
> I had problems using xmms myself with alsa.

Oh, I'm not the only one. ;-)

> Try alsamixer instead and get free from xmms bugs.

alsamixer? You mean alsaplayer, don't you?

Yes, for now I use it, but I like xmms much more than alsaplayer.

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Re: xmms doesn't work well with alsa

2002-10-30 Thread Stephan Seitz
Hi!

On Wed, Oct 30, 2002 at 09:19:13PM +1100, Rob Weir wrote:
> Have you tried OSS emulation?

Yes, I wrote:

>> Switching to the oss output plugin xmms doesn't crash but it skips
>> sometimes songs or skips part of them. xmms produces the messages:
>> 
>> ** WARNING **: SNDCTL_DSP_SPEED ioctl failed: Nicht genügend
>> Hauptspeicher verfügbar
>> ** WARNING **: SNDCTL_DSP_SETFMT ioctl failed: Nicht genügend
>>Hauptspeicher verfügbar

I can't switch to esound, neither. xmms hangs with every output plugin
'til it decides to work again.

Shade and sweet water!

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Re: ALSA not saving mixer settings

2002-11-02 Thread Stephan Seitz
Hi!

On Sat, Nov 02, 2002 at 12:34:34PM -0500, Edward Guldemond wrote:
> I am experiencing ALSA problems in my system.  The modules are loading
> correctly, and setting the volume works, but shutting down and
> restarting alsa with "/etc/init.d/alsa stop" followed by
> "/etc/init.d/alsa start" does not restore my mixer settings.  In fact,
> it zeroes them out.  Here is the copy of their output:

Yes, same here with rc3 and rc5. Switching back to rc1 solved this
problem. Since rc3 the osslayer modules don't load correctly either.
Only one of the three is loaded.

Shade and sweet water!

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Re: psaux.o not compiled as a module?!

2002-11-19 Thread Stephan Seitz
Hi!

On Tue, Nov 19, 2002 at 01:28:49PM +0100, Ralf G. R. Bergs wrote:
> This file simply isn't there. The only "char" files I have are
> "serial.o" and "softdog.o." Apart from these modules there's only
> block, cdrom, ide, net, pnp, and sound modules.

I wonder, if it ever was there.
If I read the help for "Mouse support" correctly, then:
Note that the answer to this question won't directly affect the
kernel: saying N will just cause the configurator to skip all
the questions about non-serial mice. If unsure, say Y.

So this seems to be a dummy question which only activates the
following menues.
And "PS/2 Mouse" can't be compiled as module.

IIRC there was a time, when you could compile psaux as module. Then it
merged with the keyboard driver, so you could only activate psaux or
not. There was no module anymore. But this was long ago, I think, it
happend in 2.1.x.

Shade and sweet water!

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Re: psaux.o not compiled as a module?!

2002-11-19 Thread Stephan Seitz
Hi!

On Tue, Nov 19, 2002 at 03:03:59PM +0100, Ralf G. R. Bergs wrote:
> >I wonder, if it ever was there.
> It was there. I'm not halluscinating. ;-)
> http://www.informatik.uni-siegen.de/softdocs/howto/Module-HOWTO-11.html

That HOWTO was made for 2.0 ;-)

> But it seems that it has been a while when I last spotted that module, 
> BECAUSE:
> http://ken.bantoft.org/code/linux/600e/rc.modules

You see. ;-)

> May the f^Hsource be with you. ;-)

It is, it is, thanks ;-)

Shade and sweet water!

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Re: Calculator for X

2002-11-26 Thread Stephan Seitz
Hi!

On Tue, Nov 26, 2002 at 11:32:52AM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I might be totally stupid, but when I do a dselect, I just cannot
> find a calculator for an X-Window system. The only module I've found
> is named 'calc', but dosn't work in an X-window system, does it??

Hm, xbase-clients contains xcalc, KDE has a calculator in kcalc, and
gcalc is the GNOME calculator (in gnome-utils).

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Re: Howto released: Using OpenLDAP on Debian Woody to serve Linux andSamba users

2003-08-14 Thread Stephan Seitz
Hi!

On Tue, Aug 12, 2003 at 10:54:40AM +0200, Pim Bliek | PingWings.nl wrote:
Did anyone, or maybe you Markus, by any chance, try this HOWTO on an
unstable / Sarge server? I am running unstable on my home-server because I
I'm not sure, that you can run samba 3.0beta together with ldap. At 
least I didn't get any success, only segfaults from samba.
And samba's ldap schema is completly new in 3.0.

Shade and sweet water!

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Re: [OT: Elfquest]

2003-08-14 Thread Stephan Seitz
Hi!

On Tue, Aug 12, 2003 at 01:56:55PM +0200, David Fokkema wrote:
On Tue, Aug 12, 2003 at 11:25:00AM +0200, Stephan Seitz wrote:
Shade and sweet water!
My, this is the longest OT thread I've ever seen about this lovely 
sentence. ;-)

herself has said 'shade and sweet water'. Why? Is there some sort of
english subtlety I miss here? Why is water sweet?
In German, the contrary to Salzwasser (salt water) is Süßwasser 
(literally sweet water, fresh water in English).

Since elfes prefer woodland instead of desert, I can imagine that the 
Sunfolk, driven away by humans, would call the water in the oasis 
after a long march through the desert "sweet water".
It seems American pioneers did this too, because there is a town 
called Sweet Water:

From gazetteer [gazetteer]:
 Sweet Water, AL (town, FIPS 74304)
   Location: 32.10169 N, 87.86733 W
   Population (1990): 243 (102 housing units)
   Area: 3.0 sq km (land), 0.0 sq km (water)
   Zip code(s): 36782
Shade and sweet water!

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Re: Unicode: is it safe to use it ?

2003-08-22 Thread Stephan Seitz
Hi!

On Fri, Aug 22, 2003 at 03:45:52PM -0500, Alex Malinovich wrote:
something from India (ैं ओर राष्ट्रपति सद्दाम हुसैन से मिल चुके हैं. ), 
Which font packages do you have installed for the Chinese, Japanese,
Thai and "something from India"? I can see everything else just fine,
but the above 3 are showing up as squares with numbers inside of them. 
I can see everything beside the India language.

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Re: Adding 3Ware RAID to existing Debian

2003-06-23 Thread Stephan Seitz
Hi!

On Mon, Jun 23, 2003 at 10:54:23PM +1000, Col Mackrory wrote:
Is it possible to add a 3Ware IDE Escalade 7000 to a working Debian (3.0)
system - and thus mirror the existing drive.?
For RAID the controler adds RAID data to the hard drives. Building a 
new RAID deletes all data, so you will only be able to use the 
controler as a normal IDE controler but not as a RAID controler if you 
wish to preserve your data.

If you build a RAID array (backuping your data first, then restoring 
it), you should be aware that you will not be able to access your data 
with another controler (e.g. a normal IDE controler). You need the 
same RAID controler that created the array (meaning you're using RAID 
1).

I am thinking of purchasing a 3Ware card - and a second disk to do RAID 1. I
am assuming since the first drive may be smaller than the second new drive -
I would be mirroring the size of the first drive - and the rest of the space
on the newer (larger) drive is lost?
Yes. If the discs have different sizes, the smallest size will be 
used, the difference is lost. So you should use the same discs for 
mirroring (or any other RAID array).

Lastly - assuming my existing hard drive is relatively small (say 6Gb) - and
the new drive is (say) 40Gb - after I have the second disk synced - could I
then replace the first drive with a (say) 40 Gb and then make use of the
full drive as a mirror - either by extending the partition size or by adding
another partition - or am I really nuts
Urgs, that is an interesting question. Of course you can remove a disc 
from an array and add a new disc, but I don't know, if the size will 
change.

Shade and sweet water!

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Re: ogg123 segmentation fault

2003-01-02 Thread Stephan Seitz
Hi!

On Thu, Jan 02, 2003 at 12:40:23PM -0500, David H. Clymer wrote:
> for some reason, ogg123 is acting up. when I try to play an .ogg file, i
> get the message the following:

> Playing: rms-mit2001.ogg
> Error: Cannot open device oss.
 
Seems the oss device is used by another programm. Maybe esd or artsd?

> this happens no regardless of which account it is run under. mpg321
> works just fine. 

And what output device is mpg321 using?

Try ogg123 -d esd or -d arts.

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Re: tabbed browsing as 'zilla's default

2002-09-26 Thread Stephan Seitz

Hi!

On Thu, Sep 26, 2002 at 03:15:48PM +0200, martin f krafft wrote:
> this has to go to debian once again. how can i make mozilla display
> all new pages as tabs. when a webpage has ,

I think, it doesn't work. Once there was a patch in mozilla (Debian)
but it had bad side effects, so it was removed.

You have to press the middle button, then it should work.

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Re: Debian + Amavis + Postfix

2002-09-26 Thread Stephan Seitz

Hi!

On Thu, Sep 26, 2002 at 11:30:30AM -0400, Irving Carrion wrote:
> Sep 25 20:07:34 mail amavis[9454]: virus_scan FAILED, retry: All virus
> scanners failed! at /usr/sbin/amavisd line 982.
> Sep 25 20:07:34 mail amavis[9454]: mail processing failed,
> RETRY/TEMPFAIL

Hm, did you edit /etc/amavis.conf to tell amavis what scanner it
should use?

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nfs, ldap and group permissions

2003-12-09 Thread Stephan Seitz
Hi!

I have the following problem with nfs:

Server A exports a directory via nfs to client B. User and group 
informations are stored in LDAP. The exported directory has mode 770. 

Tests:
Server: If I'm the owner of the directory or belong to the group, I 
   can create new files or change the content of the file.
		-> No problems

Client: No problems, if I'm the owner of the directory. But if I'm not 
   the owner, I could create new files because I belong to the 
	group. This doesn't work. I've only got a "permission denied". 
	If I create the group on the client with the users, I can 
	create new files, too.

So it seems that write requests don't propperly resolve the group 
permissions if the group is a LDAP group and the directory is exported 
by an NFS server. ls and "getent group" are showing correct group 
names, permissions and group users. The r-bit is correctly working, 
too.

So where is the bug? The nfs kernel server? Within the kernel?

Debian testing on both machines.
nfs-kernel-server: 1:1.0.6-1
linux kernel: 2.4.21 'til 2.4.23
Shade and sweet water!

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Re: Portable Ogg Vorbis player

2003-12-12 Thread Stephan Seitz
Hi!

On Thu, Dec 11, 2003 at 07:15:10PM +, Antony Gelberg wrote:
I have just got home with an iRiver iHP-120.  Plays ogg out of the box.
Thanks for the infos. I'm interested in the iHP-120, too.

Maybe you could answer some questions I have:

a) Can I change the hard disk if I need a bigger one? ;-)
b) I presume you see the vorbis tags in the display when you're 
  playing. Since vorbis tags are utf-8 encoded I wonder which 
  charsets the iHP can display. I have many Japanese songs 
  which have kanji in the artist and title tags.
c) Can the iHP handle utf-8 file names? All my file names are utf-8 
  encoded.

Thanks for your answers.

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Re: runlevel 2 vs 3 vs 5 deprecated in sarge?

2004-11-26 Thread Stephan Seitz
On Fri, Nov 26, 2004 at 12:55:15PM +, Joao Clemente wrote:
So I headed to /etc/inittab to change it to runlevel 3... but I was 
amazed to see that the value there was 2 
So, do those standarts of 5 = multiuser + X, 3 = multiuser - X, ... 
stoped being used in sarge? Why?
Are you sure those runlevel values *are* standards?
IIRC Debian has never made a difference between the levels 2,3,4 and
5, only 0, 1 and 6 are defined, so it can't have stopped using them.
For Debian, it's the sysadmin's work to define his runlevel policy.
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Re: [linux-audio-user] MIDI problems on latest alsa from Sid

2004-12-22 Thread Stephan Seitz
On Wed, Dec 22, 2004 at 06:31:33PM +0200, David Baron wrote:
modprobe.conf -- where did it go? If it is not there, how did everything get 
To bed, I hope. ;-)
/etc/modprobe.conf doesn't exist anymore. Debian uses the directory
/etc/modprobe.d/, where you can put your module configuration files.
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Re: Can't burn CDs at a reasonable speed (cdrecord, 2.6.11 kernel).

2005-06-06 Thread Stephan Seitz

On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 10:02:45AM +0100, Adam Funk wrote:

I thought this sounded promising but it resists my attempts to set DMA,
probably because I don't know what I'm doing.  (/dev/hda is the
CD/DVD-writer on this machine.)  Am I missing or misusing some options?


No, but there maybe two things:
1) Do you have the chipset driver installed (compiled into the kernel
  or loaded as module)? Look at dmesg output, what your kernel says
  about your hardware.

2) You don't have a chipset supported by linux. Yes, this may happen.

You could post the output of lspci and dmesg.

Shade and sweet water!

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Re: Can't burn CDs at a reasonable speed (cdrecord, 2.6.11 kernel).

2005-06-06 Thread Stephan Seitz

On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 03:48:41PM +0100, Adam Funk wrote:

By "chipset" do you mean the motherboard's IDE hardware?


Yes.


end of 'dmesg' output after running the hdparm commands again


Hm, I meant the output of dmesg after you have rebooted your system.


hda: CHECK for good STATUS
hda: drive_cmd: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error }
hda: drive_cmd: error=0x04 { AbortedCommand }


Irks, doesn't look good. You really should look for a bad or loose
cable. Replace the cable and try again.


:00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corp. 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family)


This hardware should work with linux. Did you build your own kernel?
Please post the config file for the IDE and SCSI section.

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Re: Lost an LVM group after dist-upgrade. I'm quite lost.

2005-06-10 Thread Stephan Seitz

On Fri, Jun 10, 2005 at 03:36:35PM +0200, M. Maas wrote:

Ok, that's cool, here you go:
  Device Boot  Start End  Blocks   Id  System
/dev/hdb1   1   24321   195358401   8e  Linux LVM

Looks a lot better right? Except:


Yes, that looks right.

Yes, but make sure you create a LVM partition on /dev/hdb, NOT 
on /dev/hdb1 ;)

Right, it seams that I may have done just that...


No, you created a partition on /dev/hdb, one primary, called hdb1, so
hdb has the partition table. You should not create a partition on
hdb1, which would be a subpartition.
You've done all right.


Is there hope?


I don't know. I never had such a problem.

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Re: lilo message

2005-06-10 Thread Stephan Seitz

On Fri, Jun 10, 2005 at 11:03:13AM -0400, Steve Å wrote:

I'm a little confused. How does one determine what partition their /boot is on ?
Here is my directory structure in /boot (It looks to me that my  boot is root 
?);


You're confusing the filesystem directory /boot, where the kernel
image and the boot loader configuration are, and the lilo line
"boot=", which tells lilo, where the boot sector should be written.

/boot does not have to be on the same partition as the root partition
"/".


   (Relevant Lilo.conf line);
   boot=/dev/hda


This tells lilo, where the boot information (lilo menu, which kernel
and where is it, ...) should be written.
Nomally this is correct, because hda is the first place, the BIOS
looks for boot information, if you're booting from harddrive.


   # Specifies the device that should be mounted as root. (`/')
   #
   root=/dev/hdc1


This tells lilo, which partition is the root partition "/". This
option needs the kernel, because it doesn't know it (there is no
fstab, if the kernel does not know, where to look).


 append="hdx=ide-scsi"   # change the x to yours

My present LILO.conf doesn't have the append line, like your example. Is it


No, the append line contains information lilo passes to the kernel
(like the root= information). In this case, it tells the kernel (or
the ide-scsi module in the kernel, to treat hdx as SCSI device, which
I think is necessary if you use IDE burner with older cdrecord
versions.

If you don't need it, don't use the append line.

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Re: lilo message

2005-06-11 Thread Stephan Seitz

On Fri, Jun 10, 2005 at 02:15:03PM -0400, Steve Å wrote:

You're confusing the filesystem directory /boot, where the kernel
image and the boot loader configuration are, and the lilo line
"boot=", which tells lilo, where the boot sector should be written.

Then by boot sector could be written to hdc1 then ? That's were my root partion
is, so I would think everything should go there, no ?


In theory, yes. ;-)
But you forgot your BIOS and its way of searching for a boot device.
Maybe it will work, if you mark hdc1 as bootable. But I don't know.
I always put my bootsectors in the master bootrecord of the first
device (normally hda or sda).


Right OK, but I can manually change it to hdc, and then rerun lilo ?


See above.

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Re: Bayes? - 3rd try

2005-06-14 Thread Stephan Seitz

On Tue, Jun 14, 2005 at 12:58:31PM -0500, John Fleming wrote:
If Bayes is working properly, am I supposed to have a Bayes_ entry in the 
X-Spam_Status header info for every email?  I think that's the way it used 


At least I don't have a Bayes_ entry for every mail, only for most of
the spam mails and a few non spam mails.

But I don't know, which rule sets are responsible for Bayes_ entries.

Shade and sweet water!

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Re: 3ware woes

2004-08-12 Thread Stephan Seitz
On Thu, Aug 12, 2004 at 04:38:49PM +0100, Stephen Tait wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/3w-9xxx/driver$ make 3w-9xxx
cc 3w-9xxx.c   -o 3w-9xxx
In file included from /usr/include/asm/smp.h:18,
 from /usr/include/linux/smp.h:17,
 from /usr/include/linux/sched.h:23,
 from /usr/include/linux/module.h:10,
 from 3w-9xxx.c:61:
/usr/include/asm/mpspec.h:6: mach_mpspec.h: No such file or directory
In file included from /usr/include/linux/smp.h:17,
 from /usr/include/linux/sched.h:23,
 from /usr/include/linux/module.h:10,
 from 3w-9xxx.c:61:
/usr/include/asm/smp.h:73: mach_apicdef.h: No such file or directory
In file included from 3w-9xxx.c:76:
/usr/include/linux/blk.h:1: warning: #warning this file is obsolete, please 
use  instead
In file included from 3w-9xxx.c:86:
/usr/include/asm/irq.h:16: irq_vectors.h: No such file or directory
3w-9xxx.c:89: sd.h: No such file or directory
3w-9xxx.c:90: scsi.h: No such file or directory
3w-9xxx.c:91: hosts.h: No such file or directory
3w-9xxx.c:2261: scsi_module.c: No such file or directory
make: *** [3w-9xxx] Error 1
Say, do you have the configured kernel source somethere on the disc?
At least sd.h, scsi.h,... belong to the kernel source. And a module is
compiled against the kernel.
Do you find something like /usr/src/linux in the makefile? And is
there a /usr/src/linux on your system?
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Re: xmms with gtk2? Why did no one tell me about this?

2004-02-26 Thread Stephan Seitz
Hi!

On Thu, Feb 26, 2004 at 12:21:31PM +, Tom Badran wrote:
I just discovered the beep-media-player, this little gem has to be the 
most under advertised bit of software i have ever seen. Basically its 
Alas, beep is not as stable as xmms. And most plugins are unusable with 
beep, too. So it will take some time until beep will replace xmms.

Shade and sweet water!

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Re: running graphic dos games in dosemu

2004-01-26 Thread Stephan Seitz
Hi!

On Sun, Jan 25, 2004 at 06:57:06PM +0200, Micha Feigin wrote:
I tried space quest 2 and monkey island 1 up to now.
For Monkey Island (and other Lucas Games adventures) I would try 
scummvm. Then you can play those games directly under linux.

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Re: Using VLANs on Debian

2004-02-16 Thread Stephan Seitz
Hi!

On Tue, Feb 03, 2004 at 04:30:57PM +0100, Nico De Ranter wrote:
I'm trying to get VLANs to work on a Debian box. I've installed
the vlan package and compiled vlan support into the kernel. Everything
Did you patch the harware driver for your NIC? IIRC are the drivers 
not ready for bigger packets and throw them away, so you have hanging 
connections. At least the 3c59x driver I have to patch to work with 
VLANs.

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Re: Kernel 2.6.5 and Nvidia driver

2004-04-06 Thread Stephan Seitz
On Tue, Apr 06, 2004 at 12:09:32AM -0700, Steve Freitas wrote:
I had nothing but bad experience with Nvidia's binary drivers. They kept 
Can't say that. I never had any problems with the nvidia drivers.

driver, is completely pathetic. The XFree86 Radeon driver, on the other hand, 
has performed so beautifully for me that I never felt the need to try their 
binary driver. YMMV.
Can't say that either. My Ati Radeon 9200SE wasn't supported until 
XFree 4.3, and then I didn't get DVI-out to work. It only worked with 
analog-out. So I switched back to a NVidia card.

Shade and sweet water!

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Re: ssh problem after upgrade from woody to sarge

2004-04-19 Thread Stephan Seitz
On Mon, Apr 19, 2004 at 03:15:44AM -0700, Pete RedHair wrote:
I've upgraded two Debian Woody boxes to "testing"
(sarge).
Is there anything wrong with the new version of the
ssh server or is there anything more i need to do to
get ssh to work ?
Did you find your problem in the BTS? The new ssh uses PAM, and there
seems to be some problem with the config file updates from different
versions.
You should look at your /etc/ssh/sshd_config and verify the following
settings:
PasswordAuthentication no
ChallengeResponseAuthentication yes
UsePAM yes
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Re: ssh problem after upgrade from woody to sarge

2004-04-19 Thread Stephan Seitz
On Mon, Apr 19, 2004 at 06:36:32AM -0700, Pete RedHair wrote:
It is now working without any problems.
Fine.

Stephan reported about some changes needed to do in
the sshd_config, should i keep them, are they to be
You'll need them, if you don't have your passwords in /etc/shadow but
in LDAP or Samba. At least, I needed them.
default in sarge ?
ChallengeResponseAuthentication is "yes" in new versions. I seemed to
have an really old config file. The other options are, too, "yes" in
new installations.
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Re: 2.6 LVM problem

2004-05-11 Thread Stephan Seitz
On Mon, May 10, 2004 at 08:49:43PM -0400, Kirill Lapshin wrote:
Actually it works automagically, just install lvm2 and you are fine. I 
did it just this past weekend -- installed debian sarge from scratch 
Here it didn't work. It was a woody installation, upgraded to testing.
lvm10 and lvm2 are installed. 2.6.5 didn't find the lvm partitions
(lvm support in kernel).
using beta4 installer, with kernel 2.4, configured lvm, installed lvm2 
package, compiled kernel 2.6.5, rebooted.. and lvm came up just fine. If 
Here not. Maybe because my 2.4 kernel doesn't have the device mapper
patches?
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Re: 2.6 LVM problem

2004-05-10 Thread Stephan Seitz
On Mon, May 10, 2004 at 02:50:29PM +0100, Andrew Ingram wrote:
I did update the lvm-common and lvm10 packages to the latest (I'm
running Sid btw). But this produced the same thing (no mounted lvm),
But you need lvm2 for kernel 2.6.*. And I don't know if there is an
upgrade path to use the old lvm1 with lvm2. It should be
backwards-compatible, but it uses different config files.
The lvm2 package doesn't contain any docs for an upgrade (or I didn't
find them).
Shade and sweet water!

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Re: mariadb does not run

2022-05-03 Thread Stephan Seitz

Am Di, Mai 03, 2022 at 11:39:12 +0200 schrieb Lucio Crusca:

Il 03/05/22 11:28, to...@tuxteam.de  scritto:

Try `sudo apt purge mariadb-server', watch out for error messages,
then re-install. Perhaps that helps.
I didn't mention that in my first post, but I've already tried purging 
and reinstalling several times. The one I reported is only the last one, 


The package mariadb-server is a meta package. It depends on the current 
version of the server package, e.g. mariadb-server-10.5.


e.g. the more comprehensive one that included manual removal of 
/etc/mysql and reboot before reinstalling. I always got the same 
results.


Make sure that /var/lib/mysql is empty as well after the purge.

Stephan

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Re: wtf just happened to my local staging web server

2022-05-05 Thread Stephan Seitz

Am Do, Mai 05, 2022 at 09:30:42 +0200 schrieb Klaus Singvogel:

I think there are more.


Yes, I only know wtf as „what the fuck”.

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Re: Replacing Pulseaudio with Alsa alone

2019-06-05 Thread Stephan Seitz

On Mi, Jun 05, 2019 at 11:20:58 +0200, Michael Lange wrote:

Georgi Naplatanov  wrote:

If you don't use PulseAudio then only one application can use an ALSA
device at the same time on your computer.

really? Here I can play back a video in firefox and play another video


No, I don’t think so.
IIRC: In the beginning of ALSA you needed a soundcard with hardware 
mixing capabilities. Later, ALSA got a mixer plugin itself.


So, you don’t need Pulse to have multiple audio sources.
And if you only have one soundcard, PulseAudio is overkill. Besides, 
PulseAudio lies on top of ALSA.


The advantages of PulseAudio are:
- more than one soundcard, maybe even changing (onboard, USB soundcare, 
 headset, etc.)
- you want to move the application from one soundcard to another without 
 reconfiguring the application to the new soundcard

- network capabilities

Shade and sweet water!

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Re: 70-persistent-net-rules no longer supported?

2019-07-03 Thread Stephan Seitz

On Di, Jul 02, 2019 at 08:14:02 +0100, Brian wrote:

My upgrade from stretch to buster left networking as it was before. My
70-persistent-net.rules is

SUBSYSTEM=="net", ACTION=="add", DRIVERS=="?*", 
ATTR{address}=="00:90:dc:a2:4d:26",
ATTR{dev_id}=="0x0", ATTR{type}=="1", KERNEL=="eth*", NAME="eth0"

Following Curt's suggestion I removed the relevant module and rebooted.
'ip a' shows eth0. The advice in the Release Notes


You probably meant that you removed the line?

I noticed that since Debian 9 this file is added to the initrd. So if you 
change or delete the file you have to rebuild the initrd before 
rebooting.


Shade and sweet water!

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Re: Don't disable recoomends by default

2019-07-12 Thread Stephan Seitz

On Fr, Jul 12, 2019 at 09:13:29 -0300, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:

Wrong.  Suggests are for packages useful only "sometimes", recommends
are for pacakges needed in "all but unusual installations."


From my experience this is wrong.

With recommends my d10 update would have systemd as init instead of 
sysvinit. And I would have got (for example) the package debsecan which 
I don’t need.


So it is better to disable recommends and look at the recommended 
packages.


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Re: id_dsa - not in PubkeyAcceptedKeyTypes

2019-07-17 Thread Stephan Seitz

On Mi, Jul 17, 2019 at 12:14:36 +0200, Pierre Frenkiel wrote:
have When trying a passwordless connection via ssh, I have now the 
message:

   id_dsa - not in PubkeyAcceptedKeyTypes
although it is actually in /etc/ssh/sshd_config


According to the buster manpage of sshd_config:

PubkeyAcceptedKeyTypes
  Specifies the key types that will be accepted for public key 
  authentication as a list of comma-separated patterns. Alternately 
  if the specified value begins with a ‘+’ character, then the 
  specified key types will be appended to the default set instead of 
  replacing them. If the specified value begins with a ‘-’ 
  character, then the specified key types (including wildcards) will 
  be removed from the default set instead of re‐

  placing them. The default for this option is:

  ecdsa-sha2-nistp256-cert-...@openssh.com,
  ecdsa-sha2-nistp384-cert-...@openssh.com,
  ecdsa-sha2-nistp521-cert-...@openssh.com,
  ssh-ed25519-cert-...@openssh.com,
  rsa-sha2-512-cert-...@openssh.com,rsa-sha2-256-cert-...@openssh.com,
  ssh-rsa-cert-...@openssh.com,
  ecdsa-sha2-nistp256,ecdsa-sha2-nistp384,ecdsa-sha2-nistp521,
  ssh-ed25519,rsa-sha2-512,rsa-sha2-256,ssh-rsa

  The list of available key types may also be obtained using "ssh -Q key".


So there is nothing for dsa, only ecdsa.

The default list in stretch is shorter but doesn’t have a dsa type 
either.


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Re: id_dsa - not in PubkeyAcceptedKeyTypes

2019-07-17 Thread Stephan Seitz

On Mi, Jul 17, 2019 at 01:13:14 +0200, Pierre Frenkiel wrote:

 1/ why something which worked yesterday doesn't work today?


I don’t know. Are you in control of the server? If yes, did you do an 
update/upgrade? If not, can you ask the admin?



 2/ what would be the recommended key in this long list?


Sorry, no idea.

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Where do I find the Debian CAs?

2019-08-06 Thread Stephan Seitz

Hi!

I’ve noticed that the Debian mailing list server is offering 
a certificate as a client:

Client CN „clientcerts/bendel.debian.org”, Issuer „Debian SMTP CA”

I can’t verify it because I can’t find the CA. There doesn’t seem to be 
a package with internal CAs.


Where can I find them?

Shade and sweet water!

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Re: Where do I find the Debian CAs?

2019-08-07 Thread Stephan Seitz

On Di, Aug 06, 2019 at 06:57:51 -0400, Dan Ritter wrote:

Stephan Seitz wrote:
I’ve noticed that the Debian mailing list server is offering 
a certificate as a client:

Client CN „clientcerts/bendel.debian.org”, Issuer „Debian SMTP CA”

I can’t verify it because I can’t find the CA. There doesn’t seem to be a
package with internal CAs.

Where can I find them?


dpkg -S /etc/ssl/certs
will show you:
ssl-cert, ca-certificates, openssl


I think there is a misunderstanding. I know about /etc/ssl/certs, but 
there isn’t a Debian SMTP CA.


So I would like to know where I can download this CA (or others as well) 
and then put them in /etc/ssl/certs.


Stephan

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Re: technical terms overhaul

2020-06-21 Thread Stephan Seitz

On So, Jun 21, 2020 at 08:43:57 +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote:

They are not exactly descriptive and are awkward to translate in other
languages.


Here in Germany you don’t have to translate blacklist/whitelist. They are 
part of the technical language.


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Future of systemd-shim?

2018-07-12 Thread Stephan Seitz

Hi!

I noticed that systemd-shim isn’t compatible anymore to the last systemd 
version in testing, so systemd-sysv will be installed.


This is mentioned in bug 
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=903295.


Is anyone working on this problem? Or does this mean, it’s the end for 
sysvinit (at least for desktops)?


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Re: Unmet dependencies in installing virtualbox-5.2

2018-07-30 Thread Stephan Seitz

On Mo, Jul 30, 2018 at 08:06:04 -0400, The Wanderer wrote:

It looks as if virtualbox-5.2 is a virtual or otherwise nonexistent


He is probably using the oracle repository for virtualbox because I do 
use it and I have the package virtualbox-5.2 installed. ;-)


Version 5.2.14 doesn’t have any problems with Debian testing. It uses 
libcurl3-gnutls. The new version 5.2.16 uses libcurl3 which is not 
installable in Debian testing.


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Re: Please help with error message

2018-08-07 Thread Stephan Seitz

On Di, Aug 07, 2018 at 10:08:06 +0200, Rodolfo Medina wrote:

$ echo $PATH
/home/rodolfo/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/local/games:/usr/games
rodolfo@sda6-acer:~$ su
Password:


You are using testing/unstable, aren’t you?

The su binary was replaced with another one, and now Debian is breaking 
user space again. :-(
Now su alone doesn’t change the path but keeps the user path. You have to 
use „su -”.


 The util-linux implementation of /bin/su is now used, replacing the
 one previously supplied by src:shadow (shipped in login package), and
 bringing Debian in line with other modern distributions. The two
 implementations are very similar but have some minor differences (and
 there might be more that was not yet noticed ofcourse), e.g.

 - new 'su' (with no args, i.e. when preserving the environment) also
   preserves PATH and IFS, while old su would always reset PATH and IFS
   even in 'preserve environment' mode.
 - su '' (empty user string) used to give root, but now returns an error.
 - previously su only had one pam config, but now 'su -' is configured
   separately in /etc/pam.d/su-l

 The first difference is probably the most user visible one. Doing
 plain 'su' is a really bad idea for many reasons, so using 'su -' is
 strongly recommended to always get a newly set up environment similar
 to a normal login. If you want to restore behaviour more similar to
 the previous one you can add 'ALWAYS_SET_PATH yes' in /etc/login.defs.

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Re: Please help with error message

2018-08-07 Thread Stephan Seitz

On Di, Aug 07, 2018 at 12:35:32 +0300, Reco wrote:

rodolfo@sda6-acer:~$ su

Don't. Do. That. Ever.


That’s bullshit. I did it all the time until Debian decided to break 
things.


I never had your mentioned problems.

„su” doesn’t change the working directory. So if you compile software as 
a user you can then type „make install” after su. Now it is simpler to 
compile as root user.


If you need to run an X11 program as root su preserved the DISPLAY 
variable.


Luckily you can switch back to the old behaviour, but this should be the 
default. As Linus would say: „Don’t break user behaviour! Give them an 
option to switch to a new one.”.


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Re: Please help with error message

2018-08-07 Thread Stephan Seitz

On Di, Aug 07, 2018 at 01:18:59 +0300, Reco wrote:

I never had your mentioned problems.

Either you have /sbin in your user's path, or you haven't run a single
apt-get all these years. There are other possibilities, of course,
though less flattering.


Bullshit again. You didn’t read the thread, did you?
This is new behaviour in testing because Debian switched the source for 
the su binary.


Debian 9:
stse@fsing:~$ echo $PATH
/home/stse/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/local/games:/usr/games
stse@fsing:~$ su
Passwort:
root@fsing /home/stse # echo $PATH
/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin

Testing:
[stse@osgiliath]: echo $PATH
/home/stse/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/local/games:/usr/games:/home/stse/wego/bin
[stse@osgiliath]: su
Passwort:
osgiliath:/home/stse# echo $PATH
/home/stse/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/local/games:/usr/games:/home/stse/wego/bin

Testing with „ALWAYS_SET_PATH yes” in login.defs:
[stse@osgiliath]: echo $PATH
/home/stse/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/local/games:/usr/games:/home/stse/wego/bin
[stse@osgiliath]: su
Passwort:
osgiliath:/home/stse# echo $PATH
/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin

I hope you see the difference.

„su” doesn’t change the working directory. So if you compile software 
as a user you can then type „make install” after su.

True. But this tidbit does not relate to this particular problem at all.


It does. Depending on your needs you could use „su” or „su -”.


Now it is simpler to compile as root user.

It was always 'simpler'. But not 'smarter'.


Doesn’t matter, security is always a compromise. If it gets to much work 
it will be reduced.


If you need to run an X11 program as root su preserved the DISPLAY 
variable.

And it also preserves $HOME. So any changed configuration file will be
owned by root. Not a big deal if you never try to run the program in


Only if the file never existed.

Luckily you can switch back to the old behaviour, but this should be 
the default.

Care to provide a Debian bug number that you filled on this particular
issue? Because rants on debian-user do not transform to patches by
themselves.


Which patches?


As Linus would say: „Don’t break user behaviour! Give them an
option to switch to a new one.”.

A recent kernel update (linux-4.9.110-3+deb9u1) begs to differ.
Two notable behaviour changes without any way to disable them.


Are these security changes? Then Linus permits it if there is no other 
way. By the way, what are these changes that are breaking user space?


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Re: As seen above: use of su vs sudo

2018-08-07 Thread Stephan Seitz

On Di, Aug 07, 2018 at 11:58:48 +0200, Martin Drescher wrote:

And I'm curious why Debian still prefers the use of su over sudo?


I don’t know if Debian does, but the difference between su and sudo seems 
quite like to the difference between ssh logins with password and with 
keys. Both have advantages and disadvantages.


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Re: As seen above: use of su vs sudo

2018-08-07 Thread Stephan Seitz

On Di, Aug 07, 2018 at 11:46:55 +, Curt wrote:

But it seems the whole point of the thing in a multi-user environment is
that you can use a granular approach to permissions, so I suppose if you
didn't desire a particular user modifying the logs, while granting her
other administrative privileges, that would fall completely within the
purview of the philosophy and implementation of the soft that is 'sudo'.


Exactly. At home I’m the only person using my computer, so I don’t need 
the sudo philosophy.


At work we’re using sudo (interestingly without asked password, so if you 
could login, you can do „sudo -i”), but there is no administrator 
difference. Everyone in our small group has always full administrator 
access.


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Re: As seen above: use of su vs sudo

2018-08-07 Thread Stephan Seitz

On Di, Aug 07, 2018 at 01:33:20 +0200, Martin wrote:
I don’t know if Debian does, but the difference between su and sudo 
seems quite like to the difference between ssh logins with password 
and with keys. Both have advantages and disadvantages.

By far: No.
su only invokes or acts like login, pam included. sudo may represent a complex 
role management.


Yes, I know. Maybe I wasn’t clear enough. Both tools provide a solution, 
and it is your philosphy/rule set that will decide if solution A is 
better for your work or solution B.


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Re: As seen above: use of su vs sudo

2018-08-07 Thread Stephan Seitz

On Di, Aug 07, 2018 at 02:27:48 +0200, Martin wrote:
Come on. You are telling me, it is more secure to share one secret among 
multiple people against every person having it own?


If the password is stored in a password safe, and everyone in the IT has 
access to it, where is the problem?


First you have to log in to a user's account. And I'm quite sure, you 
will use ssh with keys that, right?


I do it (at least in most cases, my key is not on every system I may need 
to login). Others don’t, they use their LDAP password.


Yes, this is way more complex than su. But it will improve system 
security by far, when in good hands.


If this security isn’t needed why bother?

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Re: unable to install nginx-full package

2018-09-18 Thread Stephan Seitz

On Di, Sep 18, 2018 at 05:34:43 +, Steve Kemp wrote:

 I would *guess* that you have an existing webserver, such as apache,
running.  If that is the case you'll want to stop it before you try


Or he has IPv6 disabled (maybe company policy). In this case nginx will 
fail to start as well.


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Re: A call to drop gnome

2019-04-16 Thread Stephan Seitz

On Di, Apr 16, 2019 at 07:53:40 +0200, Matthew Crews wrote:

Off the top of my head, Fedora, SUSE and Ubuntu (as of 18.10) use
Wayland by default.


I thought Ubuntu dropped Wayland and returned to X11?

Concerning Wayland: as long as it doesn’t have some kind of X11 
forwarding feature (easy to use with „ssh -X”), it’s useless for me.


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Re: postgresql-12 - crash. Any hints.

2019-11-14 Thread Stephan Seitz

On Di, Nov 05, 2019 at 10:42:28 +0100, Kamil Jońca wrote:

I migrate databases, and during last few days I have had 2 server
crashes.


I have similiar signal 11 crashes after the upgrade (pg_upgradecluster).

Maybe you should keep your hands from version 12.

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Replacement for lineakd?

2019-12-04 Thread Stephan Seitz

Hi!

The oldest of our list elders will maybe remember the package lineakd (it 
was removed from Debian in 2011).


Together with a „multimedia” keyboard it could be used to map commands to 
keys.


The big advantage was that it always worked not matter if you would run 
XFCE or FVWM.


Well, it’s long gone, and while I have it still installed, I’m wondering 
what kind of replacement is used today for this functionality?


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Re: Replacement for lineakd?

2019-12-04 Thread Stephan Seitz

On Mi, Dez 04, 2019 at 01:06:56 +, Steve Kemp wrote:

 I personally use `xbindkeys`.  Configure it to be launched as


Hm:
[stse@osgiliath]: apt-file search xbindkeys
:-(
[04.12.19 15:01] ~

Which package?

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Re: Replacement for lineakd?

2019-12-04 Thread Stephan Seitz

On Mi, Dez 04, 2019 at 09:14:03 -0500, The Wanderer wrote:

Looks like xbindkeys is available in stable, but not in testing (though
it is still in sid).


Ah, that explains it. I’m using testing. ;-)

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Re: unstable: directory pulse in root directory : /pulse where from?

2019-12-16 Thread Stephan Seitz

On Mo, Dez 16, 2019 at 08:32:01 +0100, Jörg-Volker Peetz wrote:

Does anybody else see such a /pulse directory?


Yes, here as well (two testing systems).

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Re: No security support for binutils and libqt5webkit5, what to do?

2019-12-29 Thread Stephan Seitz

On So, Dez 29, 2019 at 08:48:40 +0100, Pascal Hambourg wrote:

Why do you say that these packages have no or limited security support ?


Because Debian says so.

root@fsing ~ # dpkg -s debian-security-support
Package: debian-security-support
Status: install ok installed
Priority: optional
Section: admin
Installed-Size: 158
Maintainer: Holger Levsen 
Architecture: all
Version: 2019.06.13
Depends: debconf (>= 0.5) | debconf-2.0, adduser, gettext-base
Conffiles:
 /etc/dpkg/dpkg.cfg.d/debian-security-support 08577c44ee76afd1a5622392d32318ea
Description: Debian security support coverage checker
 For some Debian packages, it is not feasible to maintain full security
 support for all use cases through the full distribution release
 cycle.
 .
 This package provides a program to identify installed packages for
 which support has had to be limited or prematurely ended, and to
 alert the administrator.
 .
 New versions of this package with updated checklists will be provided
 via standard and/or extended security support.


root@fsing ~ # env LANG=C check-support-status 
Limited security support for one or more packages


Unfortunately, it has been necessary to limit security support for some 
packages.


The following packages found on this system are affected by this:

* Source:binutils
  Details: Not covered by security support
  Affected binary packages:
  - binutils (installed version: 2.31.1-16)
  - binutils-common:amd64 (installed version: 2.31.1-16)
  - binutils-x86-64-linux-gnu (installed version: 2.31.1-16)
  - libbinutils:amd64 (installed version: 2.31.1-16)


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Re: no rsync in the German installation? (Kommando nicht gefunden.)

2020-01-30 Thread Stephan Seitz

On Do, Jan 30, 2020 at 12:14:19 +0100, Albretch Mueller wrote:

Hmm! I thought and would expect for rsync to be installed by default!


No, rsync is Priority: optional.

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Re: ACL support via NFS

2007-03-09 Thread Stephan Seitz

On Fri, Mar 09, 2007 at 01:16:02PM +, Marco De Vitis wrote:

Does NFS support ACLs somehow?


Hm, from my kernel config (2.6.20.1):

CONFIG_NFS_V3_ACL:
Implement the NFSv3 ACL protocol extension for manipulating POSIX
Access Control Lists.  The server should also be compiled with
the NFSv3 ACL protocol extension; see the CONFIG_NFSD_V3_ACL option.

So it may work with current kernels.

Do I have any alternatives, besides compressing all content and 
transferring the archives? We're talking about 200GB of data, so this -- 


You could copy the archive on the fly, like

tar cpSf - . | ssh  'cd ; tar xpSf - '

I don’t know, if tar supports ACLs.

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Re: OpenSSL version 0.9.7e ?!

2006-11-16 Thread Stephan Seitz

On Thu, Nov 16, 2006 at 08:25:00PM +, Dave Ewart wrote:

to which the machine is put.  Kernel bugs are normally only exploitable
by local users; SSL bugs are most likely to be exploitable remotely.  If


Only partly true, I think. If you have a server application like apache, 
which has a bug giving you a shell, you can then use the local exploit to 
become root. So you should think a little ahead, that’s safer. ;-)


IIRC the hacking of a Debian server happened in a similiar way. Someone 
got a compromised SSH key, logged in as this user and used a local 
exploit.


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Re: cdrecord / xcdroast on Sarge / 2.6.8-3 as user - FYI

2006-11-25 Thread Stephan Seitz

On Sun, Nov 26, 2006 at 01:22:47AM +0800, Uwe Dippel wrote:

# ls -l /dev/hdd
brw-rw  1 root disk 22, 64 2004-04-30 08:27 /dev/hdd
The only thing needed is that your user is member of group 'disk'. The
latter shows why.


Don’t use the group disk, use group cdrom instead. Anyone in group disk 
can read and write direct to the disks (e.g deleting partitions). You 
don’t want this.


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Testing: New libxml2 breaks openoffice.org

2007-09-13 Thread Stephan Seitz

Hi!

I have a problem with testing (32bit, i386): Since the update of libxml2 
to version 2.6.30.dfsg-2 openoffice doesn’t work anymore:
”/usr/lib/openoffice/program/javaldx: symbol lookup error: 
/usr/lib/libxml2.so.2: undefined symbol: gzopen64”


A downgrade to version 2.6.29.dfsg-1 fixes it.

From the changelog of 2.6.30.dfsg-2:
libxml2 (2.6.30.dfsg-2) unstable; urgency=low

  * libxml.h: define _LARGEFILE64_SOURCE to properly get gzopen64 defines 
in zlib.h. Closes: #439843. Thanks Dann Frazier.


 -- Mike Hommey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  Tue, 28 Aug 2007 21:52:30 +0200

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Re: Testing: New libxml2 breaks openoffice.org

2007-09-13 Thread Stephan Seitz

CCing the libxml2 maintainer list.

On Thu, Sep 13, 2007 at 02:45:45PM +0200, Stephan Seitz wrote:
I have a problem with testing (32bit, i386): Since the update of 
libxml2 to version 2.6.30.dfsg-2 openoffice doesn’t work anymore:
”/usr/lib/openoffice/program/javaldx: symbol lookup error: 
/usr/lib/libxml2.so.2: undefined symbol: gzopen64”


Testing the situation on two other machines (one 32bit, i386 and one 
64bit, amd64), this error does not occur. All three systems are the 
current Debian Testing distribution.


Besides OpenOffice.Org other programs linked against libxml2 also don’t 
work:
scrollkeeper-update: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libxml2.so.2: 
undefined symbol: gzopen64


I did a reinstall of the libxml2 packages without success.

Any hints are welcome.

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Re: Testing: New libxml2 breaks openoffice.org

2007-09-14 Thread Stephan Seitz

Hi!

On Thu, Sep 13, 2007 at 10:43:41PM +0200, Mike Hommey wrote:

On Thu, Sep 13, 2007 at 10:24:20PM +0200, Stephan Seitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
Testing the situation on two other machines (one 32bit, i386 and one 
64bit, amd64), this error does not occur. All three systems are the 
current Debian Testing distribution.


Besides OpenOffice.Org other programs linked against libxml2 also don’t 
work:
scrollkeeper-update: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libxml2.so.2: undefined 
symbol: gzopen64

What version of zlib1g do you have ?


All three systems have zlib1g version 1:1.2.3.3.dfsg-5.

On Thu, Sep 13, 2007 at 07:22:24PM -0700, David Fox wrote:
I just did a dist-upgrade a few minutes ago (which includes of course 
the new libxml) and oowriter opens fine.


As I said. Tested on three systems (two i386/32bit, one amd64/64bit), one 
i386 system has the problem.



[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ apt-cache policy zlib1g
zlib1g:
 Installed: 1:1.2.3.3.dfsg-5
 Candidate: 1:1.2.3.3.dfsg-5
 Version table:
*** 1:1.2.3.3.dfsg-5 0
   500 http://ftp.debian.org testing/main Packages
   100 /var/lib/dpkg/status


Same here on all three systems.


Maybe the OP didn't run a dist-upgrade to bring in all the other changes.


Since I am the OP I can ensure you that all systems have the current 
software version. No other packages in the queue for an upgrade.


But:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ strings /usr/lib/libxml2.so.2.6.30 | grep gzopen64
gzopen64

So, gzopen64 is available. I don’t understand this.

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Re: [SOLVED] Testing: New libxml2 breaks openoffice.org

2007-09-14 Thread Stephan Seitz

On Fri, Sep 14, 2007 at 10:05:35AM +0200, Mike Hommey wrote:

On Fri, Sep 14, 2007 at 09:59:49AM +0200, Mike Hommey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On Fri, Sep 14, 2007 at 09:33:44AM +0200, Stephan Seitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> But:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ strings /usr/lib/libxml2.so.2.6.30 | grep gzopen64
> gzopen64
> So, gzopen64 is available. I don’t understand this.
Try objdump -T /usr/lib/libz.so.1 | grep gzopen64 instead.


[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ objdump -T /usr/lib/libz.so.1 | grep gzopen64
3fb0 gDF .text  001b  Basegzopen64

Also, you should try to strace -eopen openoffice 2>&1 | grep libz 
(change openoffice to whatever the OOo executabe is).


Yes, that helped. There was an old libz in /lib which was used instead of 
the right one. Now everything works as expected.


Sorry for the noise and thanks for your help.

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Re: Dell PowerEdge 2950 server with PERC 5/i RAID controller

2007-10-29 Thread Stephan Seitz

On Sun, Oct 28, 2007 at 07:10:08PM +0100, Andraz Sraka wrote:

On Sun, 2007-10-28 at 12:50 +0100, Maarten Vink wrote:
Add deb ftp://ftp.sara.nl/pub/sara-omsa dell sara to /etc/apt/ 

Setting up openipmi (2.0.7-1) ...
Setting up dellomsa (5.2.0-2) ...
Checking that /etc/ld.so.conf contains required paths...
Adding to /etc/ld.so.conf: /opt/dell/srvadmin/dataeng/bin
Adding to /etc/ld.so.conf: /opt/dell/srvadmin/hapi/bin
Adding to /etc/ld.so.conf: /opt/dell/srvadmin/oma/bin
Adding to /etc/ld.so.conf: /opt/dell/srvadmin/omsa/bin
Adding to /etc/ld.so.conf: /opt/dell/srvadmin/shared/bin
Adding to /etc/ld.so.conf: /opt/dell/srvadmin/sm
Adding to /etc/ld.so.conf: /opt/dell/srvadmin/sm/dellvl
Loading kernel modules
Starting Systems Management Device Drivers:
Starting ipmi driver: * 
Starting dataengine

Starting Systems Management Device Drivers:
Starting ipmi driver: * 
dpkg: error processing dellomsa (--configure):

subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
Errors were encountered while processing:
dellomsa
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)


This is not normal. I’m using dellomsa in this version on different Dell 
PE1950 and PE2950 systems (AMD64) without problems. You don’t see, what 
problems there are. You could dig through 
/var/lib/dpkg/info/dellomsa.postinst to see what it does.


From my experience you need the following kernel options:
# IPMI
CONFIG_IPMI_HANDLER=m
CONFIG_IPMI_PANIC_EVENT=y
CONFIG_IPMI_PANIC_STRING=y
CONFIG_IPMI_DEVICE_INTERFACE=m
CONFIG_IPMI_SI=m
CONFIG_IPMI_WATCHDOG=m
CONFIG_IPMI_POWEROFF=m

It wouldn’t work compiled into the kernel, they need to be modules.
And Dell kernel options:
CONFIG_DELL_RBU=m
CONFIG_DCDBAS=m
must be modules as well (they are not really needed for OMSA).

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Re: RAID suggestions?

2008-03-28 Thread Stephan Seitz

On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 10:41:27PM -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
Then DROP the idea of hw-raid.  Get a damn good SATA/SCSI/SAS HBA, and 
use software raid. BTW, damn good means no VIA, SiS, nVidia, or other
el-cheap-o half-broken SATA 


Can you give some examples for a good SATA HBA?

While I’m quite convinced that software raid is more flexible than 
hardware raid (at least for RAID 1), I know that I can do hotplug stuff 
with my 3ware (or the PERC 5/i in our Dell servers). And the last time 
I checked with the kernel SATA support, hotplugging disks was not very 
well supported.


With my 3ware controller I can use tw_cli or the GUI to rescan for a new 
disk or to remove it and I use this feature for backup. How would I do 
this with a „normal” SATA controller?


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Re: SOLVED: Help! I can't even execute my own executables any more!

2006-05-24 Thread Stephan Seitz

On Wed, May 24, 2006 at 09:52:04AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I had changed the mount options for the volume containing the source and 
object code to 'user,defaults'. For some reason that turned off execute


Yes, as it is written in the man page for mount for the option user and 
users:


This option implies the options noexec, nosuid, and nodev (unless 
overridden by subsequent options, as in the option line 
user,exec,dev,suid).


permission on the entire volume, without notifying ls of the fact.  So 


ls doesn’t know about mount flags. The file attributes are not changed by 
it. If you mount a filesystem read only, ls will still show you the 
w-bit.


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Newer twiki package?

2006-06-20 Thread Stephan Seitz

Hi!

The twiki package in Debian is 20040902-3, which is quite old. The 
current version fixing several security issues is 4.0.2.


Does anyone know a source for a newer debian package of twiki?

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Re: Newer twiki package?

2006-06-20 Thread Stephan Seitz

On Tue, Jun 20, 2006 at 10:41:52AM -0400, Kamaraju Kusumanchi wrote:
One solution is to file a wishlist bug asking for a new version of 
twiki. You can use reportbug program to report bugs.


There is already one sent 111 days ago without answer of the maintainer.  
There is a bug concerning the security issue without answer.


The maintainer might be MIA.

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Re: 2.6.17 Kernel Sources/Headers module.h MODULE_PARM

2006-06-25 Thread Stephan Seitz

On Sun, Jun 25, 2006 at 11:06:58PM +0300, David Baron wrote:

This was listed as deprecated but define anyway in 2.6.16
It is gone!! in 2.6.17


Yep, true.


I placed a #define MODULE_PARM(a,b)


No, look in include/linux/moduleparam.h
You have to include this file, and there you find, how to rewrite 
MODULE_PARAM. It’s now called module_param().


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Re: broken system after srm -r -d /tmp/.* (user login and several services not working)

2008-07-03 Thread Stephan Seitz

On Thu, Jul 03, 2008 at 06:58:08PM +0200, Jonas Meurer wrote:
[snip]
[pid 17413] execve("/bin/bash", ["bash"], [/* 16 vars */]) = -1 EACCES 
(Permission denied)

[pid 17413] open("/usr/share/locale/locale.alias", O_RDONLY) = -1 EACCES 
(Permission denied)
[pid 17413] open("/usr/share/locale/en_US.UTF-8/LC_MESSAGES/shadow.mo", 
O_RDONLY) = -1 EACCES (Permission denied)

[snip]
[pid 17413] write(2, "Cannot execute /bin/bash: Permis"..., 44Cannot 
execute /bin/bash: Permission denied) = 44

[snip]

stat("/etc/localtime", 0x7fff302962f0)  = -1 EACCES (Permission denied)
open("/etc/localtime", O_RDONLY)= -1 EACCES (Permission denied)
socket(PF_FILE, SOCK_DGRAM, 0)  = 3
fcntl(3, F_SETFD, FD_CLOEXEC)   = 0
connect(3, {sa_family=AF_FILE, path="/dev/log"}, 110) = -1 EACCES (Permission 
denied)

[snip]

This is very strange. /dev/log was opened before with success. Are the 
permissions of the directory „/usr/share/locale” correct? What are the 
permissions of /etc/localtime and /bin/bash? What says „file /bin/bash” 
and „ldd /bin/bash”? 


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Re: Audacious segfaulting

2008-07-06 Thread Stephan Seitz

On Sat, Jul 05, 2008 at 07:04:20AM -0700, Dr. Jennifer Nussbaum wrote:

Fully up-to-date Lenny system, not running anything fancy. Trying to run
Audacious, I get:


In Lenny audacious was updated but not audacious-plugins*. The old 
plugins are not working with the new audacious. Get the new 
audacious-plugins from unstable and install them manually.


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[OT] How good are the new free ATI drivers?

2008-07-08 Thread Stephan Seitz

Hi!

I’m running Debian Testing.
It is now time again to replace my old hardware with a new one. Since the 
new system doesn’t have AGP anymore, I need a new graphic card as well.


Until now I have a GV-N68128DH Silentpipe (NVIDIA GPU GeForce 6800, 
128MB) and am using the NVidia driver.


Since I would prefer open source drivers, I ask you, if you have any 
experience with one of the new free ATI drivers. I’m looking for 
a graphic card which can replace the old one mentioned above and has at 
least the same 3D capabilities and of course a working driver even if 
used in a XEN environment.


Many thanks for your answers!

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Re: CACert.org cert

2006-08-04 Thread Stephan Seitz

On Fri, Aug 04, 2006 at 02:08:11PM +0100, Magnus Therning wrote:

As far as I can see ca-certificates includes the CACert.org certificate:


There are two CACert.org certificates. Debian includes the old class 1 
pki certificate whice CACert suggests using the new class 3 pki 
certificate.



This happens in both epiphany and firefox. Why?


Does firefox use the installed certificates in /etc/ssl/certs? I don’t 
see any CACert certificate in the certificate section.


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Re: CACert.org cert

2006-08-04 Thread Stephan Seitz

On Fri, Aug 04, 2006 at 02:08:11PM +0100, Magnus Therning wrote:

Still I am getting a question when visiting sites with certificates
issued by CACert.org such as http://wolfgang.lonien.de/


So, this site uses the old class 1 certificate.
After installing the ca certificate directly in firefox (from 
www.cacert.org), I don’t get any error messages anymore. So it seems, 
that Debian’s Firefox (I’m using testing) ignores certificates in 
/etc/ssl/certs.


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Re: CACert.org cert

2006-08-04 Thread Stephan Seitz

On Fri, Aug 04, 2006 at 03:55:01PM +0100, Magnus Therning wrote:

Is there a reason for Firefox not to use the certificates in
ca-certificates?


Maybe Firefox can’t read PEM files as CAs and it only knows its own 
storing system? I don’t know. Maybe there was a problem with upstream not 
allowing to add other certificates. IIRC the original Firefox doesn’t 
have CACert’s CAs, and there was a very long discussion about adding it 
(with no results).


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How to use d-i b3 with sarge?

2006-08-17 Thread Stephan Seitz

Hi!

Can I use the new debian-installer (beta 3, netinstall.iso) to install 
Sarge? The Sarge installer doesn’t recognize my hardware.
If I boot in expert mode, I can select or enter a mirror and a proxy, but 
not a distribution.


Or are there any Sarge installers with newer kernels available?

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formail -D 524608 msgid.cache does not work

2008-05-06 Thread Stephan Seitz

Hi!

I am running a Debian/Testing System with procmail package version 
3.22-16.


The following lines are in my .procmailrc:

:0 Wh: msgid.lock
| formail -D 524608 msgid.cache

There was a time when I didn’t have any mails with the same message id in 
my box.


Since several months I noticed that I found mails in my different mail 
boxes having the same message id. I deleted the msgid.cache file, but 
without success.


Does anyone has the same problem? Can I verify which message ids are in 
the cache file?


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Streaming with Debian Testing

2008-06-05 Thread Stephan Seitz

Hi!

I have two Debian systems in the same network running Testing. One of 
them has an analog TV card (Philips Semiconductors SAA7134/SAA7135HL 
Video Broadcast Decoder). I can watch TV with kdetv without problems 
using V4L2, but normally I’m not using this system directly. So I tried 
to stream the video with vlc, but every example I found in the net seemed 
to use a codec not available with the Debian version of ffmpeg (patent 
problems). The multimedia repository contains a non-free version of 
ffmpeg, but not of vlc.


So how can I stream one TV channel to my other system? An example command 
line is greatly appreciated.


Someone from debian-multimedia suggested mythtv which I will try the next 
days, but from the description I come to understand that mythtv is 
a complete video recorder. It may be a little oversized.


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Re: Streaming with Debian Testing

2008-06-12 Thread Stephan Seitz

On Fri, Jun 06, 2008 at 01:12:24PM -0500, Stackpole, Chris wrote:

As for MythTV, it is a wonderful product and it does streaming really
well. If you are recording a show and then streaming it, the MythWeb


Thanks for the tip.
I tried mythtv and it is working for now. I had some problems
configuring the system. For some reason I couldn’t enter anything into
the textfields of mythtv-setup. The mouse cursor is only visible in the
text fields, so drop-down menus are only working by clicking blindly. But
in the end, I got it working by editing text files and the database.

It seems there are no www sites for xmltv to download German TV infos.  
And the sound is a little behind the picture. But it is still better than

nothing. ;-)

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Re: linux/config.h missing - can't build modules

2007-04-11 Thread Stephan Seitz

On Tue, Apr 10, 2007 at 08:42:09PM +0100, Hans du Plooy wrote:

I'm having trouble building modules, and I'm not too clued up on how the
kernel build system works.  I get this error:


If this will be the only error, then you are quite happy.
linux/config.h is now named linux/autoconf.h. So you can edit the module 
source and change the include lines or you can create a symlink from 
autoconf.h to config.h.


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Re: linux/config.h missing - can't build modules

2007-04-11 Thread Stephan Seitz

On Wed, Apr 11, 2007 at 11:59:23AM +0100, Hans du Plooy wrote:

Great!  Thanks!  It's not the only error, but the rest of the errors
appears to be the result (missing references, undefined this or that). 


Don’t worry, the next errors may come after *this* problem is solved. ;-)
Espcially if the module needs network variables.


I'll try this tonight - left my notebook at home.  I guess I can just make
a symlink?


Yes, this is probably the easiest solution.

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Re: I am ANGRY with Debian.

2007-05-31 Thread Stephan Seitz

On Thu, May 31, 2007 at 06:39:39AM -0400, Michael Marsh wrote:

Given one particular invariant section that always appears in FSF/GNU
GFDL'ed documentation, my preferred analogy is, "You can't skip the
commercials."


And Debian as the „TV sender” has decided to not allow commercials. If 
you want to see them, change the sender.


At least I don’t watch TV for this reason.

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Re: I am ANGRY with Debian.

2007-05-31 Thread Stephan Seitz

On Thu, May 31, 2007 at 08:01:20AM -0400, Marty wrote:
license, which *is* considered a free license.  In my opinion, all the 
analogies fall short because documentation is not software, regardless 
of Debian's dogmatic claims to the contrary.


If you mean with documentation some files you have on your computer, then 
they are of course software. They may not be programs but they are 
software.


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Re: advantages and disadvantages of local/lang en_CA.UTF-8?

2007-06-06 Thread Stephan Seitz

On Wed, Jun 06, 2007 at 12:09:20PM -0400, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote:

If I write a plain text, in english, on my UTF-8 stock debian system, is
it safe to assume that it will be readable by a computer that doesn't do
UTF-8 that just has 'C'?  Will that multi-lingual README written in


US-ASCII is a subset of UTF-8, so any text written in US-ASCII is 
readable in LANG=C. But the English language can have characters beside 
the 7bit ASCII characters as well (e.g. é). So you can’t say that the 
English language is 7bit-only.



I don't particularily care if the chinese section shows properly on my
system since I don't read chinese.  Ditto french.


French or other European countries are using all US-ASCII characters as 
well, but they have far more 8bit characters than English.


„man ascii” will show you all characters readable in C, „man iso-8859-1” 
will show you 8bit characters, some of them are used in the English 
language as well. Those would not be readable in C.


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