Pinning question
Hi, I've been trying to figure this out for a few days now, and can't seem to get it to work. I want to pin not based on [stable, testing, unstable], but based on distribution release, in my case, [woody, potato]. I want to have a mainly potato system, with select packages from woody. I have the main, contrib, and non-free sections for both in sources.list. This is an exerpt from the man page I thought was relevant: "If the first character of the specification is a digit then it is considered to be a release version match, otherwise a release label match. Specifications which contain equals are full release data matches and are a comma seperated list of one letter keys followed by an equals then by the string." I thought this was telling me I could do something like this: /etc/apt/preferences: Package: * Pin: release potato Pin-Priority: 800 Package: * Pin: release woody Pin-Priority: 200 This however didn't change anything, it still wanted to take all the woody versions of packages, the same as before the preferences file existed. I also tried pinning this way, as also described in the man page: Package: * Pin: release v=2.2* Pin-Priority: 800 Package: * Pin: release v=3.0* Pin-Priority: 200 This also didn't work, as described above. I also tried other ways, but these two I though would be correct. I assume this sort of thing is possible, what am I doing wrong? TIA. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Pinning question
On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 22:23:46 -0400, you wrote: >> Package: * >> Pin: release potato >> Pin-Priority: 800 >> >> Package: * >> Pin: release woody >> Pin-Priority: 200 >> > >When I read the man pages for apt_preferences, the format is Pin: >release a=stable, not pin: release woody. Maybe this will help. > ^^ note >potato is still in the 'dists' list of 'ftp.us.debian.org/debian' so I >would guess using "Pin: release a=potato" would work? >Chuck I indeed tried this at first after seeing hundreds of web pages explaining how, before reading the man page fully; according to the man page: Selection by release is more complicated and has three forms. The primary purpose of release selections is to identify a set of packages that match a specific vendor, or release (ie Debian 2.1). The first two forms are shortcuts intended for quick command line use. """If the first character of the specification is a digit then it is considered to be a release version match, otherwise a release label match.""" """Specifications which contain equals are full release data matches and are a comma seperated list of one letter keys followed by an equals then by the string.""" v=2.1*,o=Debian,c=main l=Debian a=stable """The data for these matches are taken from the Release files that APT downloads during an update.""" Here is a the release file for the 'main' section of 'woody' on my machine: $ cat /var/state/apt/lists/http.us.debian.org_debian_dists_woody_main_binary-i386_Release Archive: stable Version: 3.0r1a Component: main Origin: Debian Label: Debian Architecture: i386 Here is the release file for the 'main' section of 'potato' on my machine: $ cat /var/state/apt/lists/archive.debian.org_debian-archive_dists_potato_main_binary-i386_Release Archive: stable Version: 2.2r7 Component: main Origin: Debian Label: Debian Architecture: i386 The man page says the data for these matches are taken from the release file. I commonly see 'release a=stable', release a=unstable', used with pinning, so I assume 'a=' refers to the 'Archive:' field in the release file. That explains why I couldn't match on 'a=woody' for example. Since both woody and potato are considered 'stable', I can't use 'a=' to differentiate between them, as 'a=stable' would match both dists. However, I should be able to match based on the 'Version:' field, which is still different between releases. Indeed, at the end of "http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-apt-get.en.html";, there is an example including version numbers: Package: * Pin: release v=2.2*,a=stable,c=main,o=Debian,l=Debian Pin-Priority: 1001 I'm still not sure why my setup doesn't work: >> Package: * >> Pin: release v=2.2* >> Pin-Priority: 800 >> >> Package: * >> Pin: release v=3.0* >> Pin-Priority: 200 I must be something extremely simple that I'm missing, anybody else??? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Pinning question
On Tue, 16 Sep 2003 11:29:49 +0100, you wrote: >On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 14:24:54 -0600 Ryan Walters wrote: >> Hi, I've been trying to figure this out for a few days now, and can't >> seem to get it to work. I want to pin not based on [stable, testing, >> unstable], but based on distribution release, in my case, [woody, >> potato]. >> ... >> /etc/apt/preferences: >> >> Package: * >> Pin: release potato >> Pin-Priority: 800 >> >> Package: * >> Pin: release woody >> Pin-Priority: 200 >> >> This however didn't change anything, it still wanted to take all the >> woody versions of packages, the same as before the preferences file >> existed. > >Try pinning woody below 100. I had tried that too, but since the apt/preferences file doesn't seem to have any effect, changing the pinning number doesn't do anything either. I think the above example is wrong anyway, would end up matching on 'l=', which in this case is always "Debian". However, using 'v=' should work ok, but again, doesn't seem to do anything at all, regardless of pin numbers. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Pinning question
On Tue, 16 Sep 2003 22:21:29 +0100, you wrote: >On Tue, 16 Sep 2003 10:00:11 -0600 Ryan Walters wrote: >> On Tue, 16 Sep 2003 11:29:49 +0100, you wrote: >> >> >On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 14:24:54 -0600 Ryan Walters wrote: >> >> Hi, I've been trying to figure this out for a few days now, and can't >> >> seem to get it to work. I want to pin not based on [stable, testing, >> >> unstable], but based on distribution release, in my case, [woody, >> >> potato]. >> >> ... >> >> This however didn't change anything, it still wanted to take all the >> >> woody versions of packages, the same as before the preferences file >> >> existed. >> > >> >Try pinning woody below 100. >> >> I had tried that too, but since the apt/preferences file doesn't seem >> to have any effect, changing the pinning number doesn't do anything >> ... > >Just remembered that potato's apt may not yet be aware of apt pinning. >Is that the version you have? No, I installed woody's apt, and apt-utils first, as I did read that potato's apt didn't do pinning. You're right though, I'm don't think I'll bother with a mixed system, too much hassle. One thing I know will work fine, is using the machine purely as an X terminal, using another faster machine with more ram to run the actual applications. Kind of defeats the purpose of a laptop though I guess, as in that case it would be tied to the lan to run X. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Potato apt sources.list
On Wed, 17 Sep 2003 14:04:17 +0200, you wrote: >Hi group, > >I know potato is obsolete, but today I wanted to update a machine the >last time, before I do a distribution-update to woody. > >But it seems, some apt sources are broken now, I get errors like the >following when doing "apt-get update": http://www.debian.org/distrib/archive should answer your questions.. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
