Re: Frozen, Potato or Woody?
> You probably should link /var/cache/apt/archives to some bigger > partition. Is there any chance apt is going to get a little smarter about upgrade space usage, or is that one of those things I'll have to do myself to get?
Re: custom kernel troubles
> It seems that for whatever reason (I´ve set Processor type to 386 in make > menuconfig) it thinks that there is a arch/i586 directory where there isn´t. I just had the exact same problem symptoms (including the failed retry with specific arch) as you a few days ago, but with a 2.2 kernel build. If you have an ARCH environment variable, unset it and try the basic build command again. That worked for me, although it seems odd I never had a problem with it before... Hope this helps, Robert Braddock
Radeon 8500, kdetv, and xawtv broken - no video overlay device
I have a Radeon 8500 video card which I use as video-in for my computer to act as my tv monitor. Sometime since the Summer, this has stopped working and I am having no luck finding any helpful information by searching. Most searches just refer to the old GATOS project, which hasn't done anything for years, but supposedly has been rolled into xorg's drivers. Now, I know my card uses a "video overlay" which most tv-type programs don't seem to care about. If I could get a /dev/video* setup with v4l or something similar, I'd love to give that a try, but again, searches don't flush out anything curent sounding. I used to use GATOS's avview to open the AV-in window, but that stopped working with X a year or so ago, at which point I went to the less reliable but functional xawtv. That worked for a while by itself, but then I needed to run kdetv first, and then xawtv (and then kdetv again to shut off the audio). This was especially odd because kdetv didn't actually ever get the actual video, but it would reliably get things setup so xawtv could work. Xawtv still had problems, though: it would just go blank if you resized it or made it full screen. The video would come back if you brought up xawtv's menu, so the process became: start kdetv, quit it, start xawtv, make it fullscreen, right click twice to get the menu and get rid of it again, use the video, quit xawtv, start kdetv, and finally quit it. What a mess! At least it worked, though. Now, it seems as though my overlay device just isn't there. Kdetv says there's no video device at all and xawtv reports "no usable video port found". I've looked through the xorg log, and there doesn't seem to be any kind of error to follow up on. I haven't made any config changes since back when it was working. All that's changed is there have been updates installed (debian testing), but I didn't use the video-in for several months, so I have no idea what batch of updates broke things. So, my questions: - Can I get a /dev/video* for the Radeon 8500 (R200) video input? How? - Can I get directions to the best place to ask this question and get help, if there are no answers here? - Are there any newer or more reliable programs I could use besides kdetv and xawtv that will work with the 8500's video overlay thing? - What happened? How should I have found out? - Anything else I can do, besides buying new hardware (not currently an option) References: - results of "xawtv -v -2" http://concordantthought.com/personal/robert/relay/xawtv-v-2.20110101.log - Xorg log http://concordantthought.com/personal/robert/relay/Xorg.0.20110101.log Thanks for any help, Robert -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110102042500.ge4...@leary.csoft.net
Re: Radeon 8500, kdetv, and xawtv broken - no video overlay device
> > Now, it seems as though my overlay device just isn't there. Kdetv > > says there's no video device at all and xawtv reports "no usable > > video port found". > If the card used to work and now suddenly stopped creating the "/dev/ > video0" device, I would look into "dmesg" log, maybe there is any hint > on why the video device is not being created (missing module, kernel > change, firmware needed, conflicting drivers, radeon driver > changes...). Sorry if it was unclear, but the video overlay thing through X/Xvideo is different from /dev/video0. I've never had a /dev/video0 device, even when it was working (this is why xawtv and kdetv were the only programs that work -- they are the only ones I've found that recognize the overlay instead of needing a /dev/video0). I'd like to have a /dev/video0, but as I said, I have no idea how to get that to happen, and my searches never turn up anything but old references to GATOS. I haven't seen errors in the boot log either. Thanks, Robert -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110102175954.gg4...@leary.csoft.net
Re: Radeon 8500, kdetv, and xawtv broken - no video overlay device
On Sun, Jan 02, 2011 at 12:59:54PM -0500, Robert Braddock wrote: > Now, it seems as though my overlay device just isn't there. Kdetv > says there's no video device at all and xawtv reports "no usable > video port found". FYI, someone on the xorg list gave me a tip to put "radeon.modeset=0" on the kernel command-line at boot. After doing that, the overlay device is back, but kdetv and xawtv still don't work: kdetv shows some red lines instead of video xawtv can only show video at the default tiny window size. Any resizing will resize the image, but be black everywhere that wasn't visible through the default window (even if I start it with -fullscreen). Is there any other program that understands the video overlay device thing? Kdetv and xawtv just don't seem to prioritize working... Can I get a /dev/video0 for a Radeon 8500's input? Xorg obviously isn't going to bother to keep it working, and it would be really nice to be able to use a better program than xawtv. -- Robert -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110103050043.gb16...@leary.csoft.net
Re: Radeon 8500, kdetv, and xawtv broken - no video overlay device
> You can try with another programs to view the TV, like Videolan, Me-TV > or even Kaffeine :-? I don't know how to make anything else talk to the Xvideo overlay device. The only mentions I've found were things NOT using it, or only using a /dev/video0 type device. Kaffeine, vlc, and me-tv don't seem to have an obvious way to access anything other than the /dev/video0 system. Xawtv (which is teeny and can't resize), kdetv (which can't show the actual video) and avview (which doesn't even run anymore) are the only things I've seen that will use the Xvideo overlay instead of requiring a /dev/video0 device. That's why, if getting /dev/video0 for a Radeon8500 were feasible, I'd like to leave this whole weird overlay device thing behind, like everyone else seems to have... > > Can I get a /dev/video0 for a Radeon 8500's input? Xorg obviously > > isn't going to bother to keep it working, and it would be really > > nice to be able to use a better program than xawtv. > Maybe you card does not allow that... what tv tuner chipset has? Actually I'm trying to get the basic a/v-in to work (mainly the svideo and rca audio inputs), not the tuner. I've kind of given up on the tuner... It looks like the card includes such things as : FI123xx (FI1236W) Tuner, TDA9885 Alignment-free IF-PLL, MSP34xx (MSP3445G, MSP3430), and Rage Theatre revision 0003, if any of that helps. -- Robert -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110107045847.gi16...@leary.csoft.net
