RE: A couple of questions.

[Person, Roderick]

WMPrefs has a sections that allows you to modifiy the key bindings


Rod

> -Original Message-
> From: Monte Copeland [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, June 07, 1999 3:02 PM
> To:   debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject:  A couple of questions.
> 
> 2. When using Netscape Communicator in WindowMaker, there is a key-binding
> that
> can be used to change to the next email message. It is ALT- or
> 
> ALT-. But this seems to change the windows in WindowMaker. Is
> there 
> anyway to disable this key-binding in WindowMaker so that the one in
> Netscape 
> can work. 
> 
> 
> 
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RE: cannot mount CD-ROM! - Pls help

[Person, Roderick]

the /cdrom is a directory that you will change to to view the content of the
cdrom.

for example in you /etc/fstab
  /dev/hdc  /cdrom iso9660 auto,noauto 0 0

here the cdrom will mount on /cdrom directoy so when you cd /cdrom and ls
and the program on the cdrom will be there.

Rod...

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> Subject:  Re: cannot mount CD-ROM! - Pls help
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> On Mon, 07 Jun 1999, Will Lowe wrote:
> >> But, now during boot, it does not detect the CD-ROM drive and as root I
> >> could not mount the drive either. I tried both these commands:
> >> 
> >> % mount /dev/hdc /cdrom (I do have /cdrom as the mount point)
> >> or
> >> % mount -t iso9660 /dev/hdc /mnt
> >
> >Try 
> >mount -t iso9660 /dev/hdc1 /cdrom
> > ^
> >
> >... you may need to specify which partition to mount.
> 
> CD-ROMS don't have partitions :), so /dev/hdc
> 
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RealProducer...Anyone get it to run under Debian?

[Person, Roderick]

Hey All,

I just downloaded RealProducer from Download.com. I untared and placed it in
the appropriate location and read the readme and did what it told me to do.
But, it doesn't run. I'm using potato and have recently install java1.2pre
from blackdown.org. I think this may be the problem? Is anyone with a slink
system with java1.1 running RealProducer. They error stems from the loading
of a java lib that RealProducer supplies. Sorry I can't remember the excat
error, text I'm at work.

Roderick P. Person
Programmer I
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 - anon. Navy Seal 

GNOME apps and CORBA.

[Person, Roderick]

Hey all,

I'm using potato/slink mix all base files and libs are potato. Apps are a
mixture. Anyway, I use WindowMaker and have no other window manger installed
nor do I plan to. There are some gnome app that I like and want to try but
am find problems with some. gnome control panel works - although I have
options to configure the keyboard or mouse, which if this all this does make
it useless - gnome help browser works. But when trying gnotes and other apps
I find a get a message initializing CORBA for applet. Then it just hangs at
that point, it never runs the apps. Anyone have an idea on fixing this.

Roderick P. Person
Programmer I
CCBH (412)454-2616

 "We're not that good. Everyone else just sucks!"
 - anon. Navy Seal 

windowmaker and sound.

[Person, Roderick]

I have windowmaker make 0.60 running on a potato system with a Soundblaster
16 PnP. The card works, if I use WSoundPrefs to set my sound setting I get
sound when I hit the play button. I save the settings and shut down
WsoundPrefs and the program exit sound comes. Then all sound dies. I don't
get and sound at all. 

Is there something special about windowmaker and sound that I am missing?

Roderick P. Person
Programmer I
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 - anon. Navy Seal 

Need Recommendations on Apps for Debian.

[Person, Roderick]

Ok guys,

I need to know if anyone knows of any apps like the following:

A linux version of SHIVA.
An app that will allow me to create business cards
An app to do floor plan of a home or office.

TIA,
Roderick P. Person
Programmer I
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Need Help Building my first .debs???

[Person, Roderick]

Hey All,

I'm trying to package a .deb. I have read and followed the docs and the
HOWTOs. I must be missing something. I get a error 1 when running rules
script. Can someone point me to a nice tutorial on the web or give me some
helpful hints? Is there a generic way to build .debs?

Roderick P. Person
Programmer I
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apt-find...where is libapt2.5

[Person, Roderick]

I tried to get apt-find but it tells me that I need libapt2.5. I can seem to
find it anywhere although I have found libapt.0.3-dev. Does anyone know
where libapt2.5 is.

Roderick P. Person
Programmer I
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 - anon. Navy Seal 

RE: Need Help Building my first .debs???

[Person, Roderick]

I was trying to compile the binaries into a .deb.
There error was : exit error 1

I have come to find that .debs are created from the source most of the time.
I have been told it is hard to compile binaries into .deb. It can be done
but everyone is telling me it's easier to go from the source. I guess I'll
try that.

> -Original Message-
> From: Bradley Bell [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 1999 2:22 PM
> To:   Person, Roderick
> Cc:   'debian-user@lists.debian.org'
> Subject:  Re: Need Help Building my first .debs???
> 
> Well, what's the error?
> If the program you're trying to debianise has compilation instructions,
> try to follow those first, using "configure", "make", etc. and then when
> you're successful with that part, use dh_make and debuild.
> 
> -Brad
> 
> On Tue, 6 Jul 1999, Person, Roderick wrote:
> 
> > Hey All,
> > 
> > I'm trying to package a .deb. I have read and followed the docs and the
> > HOWTOs. I must be missing something. I get a error 1 when running rules
> > script. Can someone point me to a nice tutorial on the web or give me
> some
> > helpful hints? Is there a generic way to build .debs?
> > 
> > Roderick P. Person
> > Programmer I
> > CCBH (412)454-2616
> > 
> >  "We're not that good. Everyone else just sucks!"
> >  - anon. Navy Seal 
> > 
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RE: accessing the dos partition

[Person, Roderick]

When you use dselect, did you chose to install from a existing
partition/filesystem?

> -Original Message-
> From: pplaw [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 1999 3:38 PM
> To:   debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject:  accessing the dos partition
> 
> hello debian community,
> 
> i've installed the base system from the net.  however, i cannot
> access/mount the dos partition, which is where i've downloaded other
> packages.  (i've tried "dselect" and "apt-get".)
> 
> ...any suggestions.
> 
> thx.
> 
> bentley taylor.
> 
> //
> 
> 
> 
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Linuxcare Debian Promo Poster

[Person, Roderick]

Any one hear about the LinuxCare promo poster given away at the Bay Area
Linux User Group meeting in June. It a woman covering her ass with a Debian
CD cover. Anyway, does anyone know if I can get a copy of it on line
somewhere?

Roderick P. Person
Programmer I
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 - anon. Navy Seal 

RE: Linuxcare Debian Promo Poster

[Person, Roderick]

The Red Hat box was on there first promo poster was at the Linux Expo in
North Carolina. That made Red Hat call the big bad lawyers. So in kind of a
parody of a parody and to give RH the finger they made the poster over with
Debian as the CD cover. I have the article is anyone is interested.

Rod...

> -Original Message-
> From: Jonathan Lupa [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, July 15, 1999 11:28 AM
> To:   Person, Roderick
> Subject:  RE: Linuxcare Debian Promo Poster
> 
> Hmmm... I"m pretty sure it was a RedHat 6.0 box.  In any event, if you get
> a
> URL, I'd appreciate it if you passed it along! =)
> 
> -Jonathan
> 
> On Thursday, July 15, 1999 11:02 AM, Person, Roderick
> [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Any one hear about the LinuxCare promo poster given away at the Bay Area
> > Linux User Group meeting in June. It a woman covering her ass with a
> Debian
> > CD cover. Anyway, does anyone know if I can get a copy of it on line
> > somewhere?
> > 
> > Roderick P. Person
> > Programmer I
> > CCBH (412)454-2616
> > 
> >  "We're not that good. Everyone else just sucks!"
> >  - anon. Navy Seal 

RE: STABLE graphical FTP clients?

[Person, Roderick]

Try wx_ftp. I think there is a deb. I got the tar version myself. It's the
Linux version of ws_ftp

Rod..

> -Original Message-
> From: Bryan Scaringe [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 1999 11:53 AM
> To:   debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject:  STABLE graphical FTP clients?
> 
> I'm trying to get an FTP client for Linux that is graphical, and
> supports bookmarks.  Something like gFTP or IglooFTP.
> 
> gFTP is *very unstable* and usually segfaults with just about any
> operation. I'm using the latest version, 2.0.2, but have noticed
> this with all other versions I have ever used.
> 
> IglooFTP is somewhat more stable, but still not enough to be useful.
> This morning, it kept dying of a "broken pipe".  I had to boot to
> Windows and run CuteFTP to find out that the site I was uploading to
> was full.  I can't believe that IglooFTP couldn't handle that gracefully.
> 
> Any Ideas?
> 
> Bryan
> 
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RE: Web Counter

[Person, Roderick]

There is a package called wwwcount I believe. If I remember you need to be
running a server to use it - I'm not sure. If you just
need scripts for counters on a web page check out this page. There are JAVA,
Perl and CGI scripts that you can use for a number of things

  http://www.infohiway.com/javascript/toc/index.htm

Rod

> -Original Message-
> From: Pete Vanderburgh [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 1999 6:51 AM
> To:   debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject:  Web Counter
> 
> Does anyone know where I can find a web counter for Debian Linux?  Maybe
> there's a package out there that I've missed?
> 
> thanks !
> 
> --- Pete
> 
> 
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RE: X server for crappy Packard Hell machine

[Person, Roderick]

My original linux box was a Packard Hell 486 SX 33 with 528k video board
that ran X server - slow but ran. I even used Window Maker. I like
punishment!! If you send me more details I try and help the best I can!!

Rod

> -Original Message-
> From: Stuart Ballard [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 1999 10:15 PM
> To:   debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject:  X server for crappy Packard Hell machine
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I have installed debian slink on an old Packard Hell computer. Most
> things work fine, but the standard XF86_SVGA xserver appears to have
> some problems - it works, sort of, but once the screen gets busy I get
> random pixels going the wrong color. It appears as if video memory is
> sometimes getting randomly corrupted. If I was running windows, I would
> suspect a bad video driver - but I'm not running a video driver.
> 
> I am sure that this is a case of crappy hardware, but I also know that
> windows managed to work around it somehow, so it can be done.
> 
> Since the only documentation I have on the hardware is a sticker on the
> box which says "1Mb video memory upgradable to 2Mb", I configured X by
> accepting all the defaults I could find, and probing for anything it
> would let me probe for. This, of course, is probably what went wrong.
> 
> Does anyone have any tips on how I can figure out how X *should* have
> been configured, or whether it would have been possible to use one of
> the accelerated servers instead of the basic one?
> 
> Thanks a million,
> Stuart.
> 
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Microphone input in X.

[Person, Roderick]

Does anyone know,  is there  a /dev/mic or a module that needs to be loaded
to get a mic input to work. I have a Sound Blaster 16 PCI it works in
everyother way but not mic input. Come to thing of it  I haven't tried the
line so I don't know if that works.

Roderick P. Person
Programmer I
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 - anon. Navy Seal 

XFCom_SVGA server xfree86-3.3.3 and the ps/2 mouse.

[Person, Roderick]

I am currently running potato and the xfree86-3.3.3 package from netgod. I
download the XFCom_SVGA server with vmware. 
I installed and ran it fine for a day or two. Then I had to reboot and X
would not start. It says that the ps/2 protocal is not supported with this
server. Strange it ran for two days with this protocal before it realized?
Yes, I did reboot during that time. 

So i search the man, info and the web sites and indeed the ps/2 protocal is
not supported with this server and linuxs98 which I assume is kerenel 2.2
since I am runnning 2.2.9. Is any one using this xserver with a ps/2 mouse
and what are you using as the protocal in your XF86Config file?

Roderick P. Person
Programmer I
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 - anon. Navy Seal 

RE: XFCom_SVGA server xfree86-3.3.3 and the ps/2 mouse.

[Person, Roderick]

As with me it worked fine for a day or two. The I rebooted and I got the
error message that "mouse protocal not supported by server." I check the
vmware support page and it referred me to the xfree86 web page and there I
found a listing of the current xserver and what they mice they support.
Under Linux98 (which I'm not sure exactly what that is??) it stated that the
ps/2 protocal is not supported, but under Linux it is. Now since I got the
error message I assume that some how I have something that says I am running
linux98 which I assume has something to do with the kernel version of which
mine is 2.2.9-2 from netgod. I believe that the 2.2.9 that I got from
debian.org worked fine with the server, I have to check. I just remembered
changing for on kernel to the other.

Rod 

> -Original Message-
> From: Adam Shand [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 1999 11:32 PM
> To:   Person, Roderick
> Cc:   'debian-user@lists.debian.org'
> Subject:  Re: XFCom_SVGA server xfree86-3.3.3 and the ps/2 mouse.
> 
> 
> > I am currently running potato and the xfree86-3.3.3 package from netgod.
> > I download the XFCom_SVGA server with vmware.
> 
> i'm running pretty old debian base packages but i am running the latest
> svga
> server from vmware and have been for a couple of months with no problem.
> 
> > I installed and ran it fine for a day or two. Then I had to reboot and X
> > would not start. It says that the ps/2 protocal is not supported with
> > this server. Strange it ran for two days with this protocal before it
> > realized? Yes, I did reboot during that time.
> 
> ... weird.  where does it say that?  it's been working just dandy for me
> from day one.
> 
> > So i search the man, info and the web sites and indeed the ps/2 protocal
> > is not supported with this server and linuxs98 which I assume is kerenel
> > 2.2 since I am runnning 2.2.9. Is any one using this xserver with a ps/2
> > mouse and what are you using as the protocal in your XF86Config file?
> 
> Section "Pointer"
> Protocol"PS/2"
> Device  "/dev/psaux"
> Emulate3Buttons
> Emulate3Timeout50
> EndSection
> 
> not sure what to tell you but it works just fine for me.
> 
> adam.
> 
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Idea for popularizing Debian!

[Person, Roderick]

Hey,

I was reading the /. poll stuff and I just though, why don't some Debian
user get together and do some Type of volunteer advertising via web page and
if funds can be raise via Linux Journal and other pubs

Roderick P. Person
Programmer/ Analyst
454-2616
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Sane Mustek configuration.

[Person, Roderick]

Hi all,

I have a Mustek CG-6000 hand held color scanner ( it's perfectly fine for
what I do), anyway I can't seem to get it to be acknowledged by sane. When I
find-scanner, it doesn't find it. I think the problem is the scanner is
connected to a card no a serial or parallel port. Although, I know the i/o
setting I can find a config file in /etc or any where else. I read the mans
and the readmes but nothings is helping. I remember hearing about scanners
with adapter cards and something special you had to do? Only thing I found
related to that is about SCSI scanners, and I don't believe it a SCSI
scanner - not sure noting in the manuals state that it is and nothing else
on my box is SCSI? Any ideas???

Roderick P. Person
Business Analyst
454-2616
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Floppy Drive Alignment Software

[Person, Roderick]

Hi All,

My 3.5 floppy is out of alignment, I know for other OSs there is software to
help you align your drive is there any for Debian or Linux in general.

thanks 
Rod

Which Kernal supports over 6.0 GB HD

[Person, Roderick]

I just bought a 6.4GB but Linux only reads it as 6.0GB, which Kernal do I
need to get the full access

Thanks.

RE: Which Kernal supports over 6.0 GB HD

[Person, Roderick]

I don't think this is the case since this the drive is a Western Digital
26400 Caviar and it does report 6GB excatly it reports 6.14...GB

> --
> From: Lewis, James M. [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 1999 10:56 AM
> To:   'debian-user@lists.debian.org'; 'Person, Roderick'
> Cc:   'The recipient's address is unknown.'
> Subject:  RE: Which Kernal supports over 6.0 GB HD
> 
> Just a guess.  I think it sees the whole thing.  Disk drive makers
> sometimes use 1000bytes as 1k, whereas, most folks use 1024.  The disk
> folks think 1,000,000,000 bytes is 1G.  Others think 1,073,741,824 bytes
> is 1G.  6 x 1G = 6,442,459,944 bytes.  Which 6.4G if you use the 1000
> for 1k base.  It depends on which def of 1k you use.  I suspect the
> linux utilities use 1024=1k.  Read the fine print to see what the drive
> manufacturer uses for 1k.
> 
> jim
> 
> >--
> >From:Person, Roderick[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Sent:Tuesday, February 16, 1999 10:28 AM
> >To:  'debian-user@lists.debian.org'
> >Cc:  The recipient's address is unknown.
> >Subject: Which Kernal supports over 6.0 GB HD
> >
> >I just bought a 6.4GB but Linux only reads it as 6.0GB, which Kernal do I
> >need to get the full access
> >
> >Thanks.
> >
> >
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RE: Which Kernal supports over 6.0 GB HD

[Person, Roderick]

If I get what your saying here. Linux does report the correct heads,sectors,
cylinders as the manufacture claims are on the disk. But it only reports
6.1GB FDISK  sees only this too.

Rod

> --
> From: Philippe Andersson[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 1999 12:00 PM
> To:   Debian User mailing list
> Subject:  Re: Which Kernal supports over 6.0 GB HD
> 
> Hi folks,
> 
> I may be missing the point here, but it looks to me that if you use the
> hdparm utility (DOS utility - you'll have to put it on a DOS boot
> floppy) to check the drive geometry as reported by the BIOS, then go to
> Linux and check that fdisk uses the same geometry parameters, you can
> verify that your linux isn't missing any part of your disk. Right ?
> 
> Hope this helps.
> 
> Ph. A.
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RE: Which Kernal supports over 6.0 GB HD

[Person, Roderick]

I thought this was the case, that Linux did need the Bios. I know that my
BIOS isn't read the drive correctly. In fact it does even reach a GB when I
put the C/H/S in the setup. Which is why I assumed the the Kernal did not
read beyond 6.0GB. So Now I'm back to it's a problem with the drive

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> From: David Zanetti[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 1999 3:34 PM
> To:   'Person, Roderick'
> Cc:   'debian-user@lists.debian.org'
> Subject:  RE: Which Kernal supports over 6.0 GB HD
> 
> I've never had any such problems with both of my 6.4 Western Digital's,
> both the 36400 and the 26400. I'd check they're being picked up
> correctly by the probing (ie, C/H/S).. Other than that I'd look at BIOS
> issues, but I seem to recall Linux doesn't use the BIOSes idea of drives
> for a lot...
> 
> David Zanetti, Unix System Administrator, Information Technology Group
> Wellington City Council, New Zealand. Phone x3354 or 04 801 3354
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> > -Original Message-
> > From:   Person, Roderick [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent:   Wednesday, 17 February 1999 05:33
> > To: 'debian-user@lists.debian.org'; Person, Roderick; 'Lewis, James
> > M. '
> > Cc: recipient list not shown
> > Subject:RE: Which Kernal supports over 6.0 GB HD
> > 
> > I don't think this is the case since this the drive is a Western
> > Digital
> > 26400 Caviar and it does report 6GB excatly it reports 6.14...GB
> > 
> > > --
> > > From: Lewis, James M. [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 1999 10:56 AM
> > > To:   'debian-user@lists.debian.org'; 'Person, Roderick'
> > > Cc:   'The recipient's address is unknown.'
> > > Subject:  RE: Which Kernal supports over 6.0 GB HD
> > > 
> > > Just a guess.  I think it sees the whole thing.  Disk drive makers
> > > sometimes use 1000bytes as 1k, whereas, most folks use 1024.  The
> > disk
> > > folks think 1,000,000,000 bytes is 1G.  Others think 1,073,741,824
> > bytes
> > > is 1G.  6 x 1G = 6,442,459,944 bytes.  Which 6.4G if you use the
> > 1000
> > > for 1k base.  It depends on which def of 1k you use.  I suspect the
> > > linux utilities use 1024=1k.  Read the fine print to see what the
> > drive
> > > manufacturer uses for 1k.
> > > 
> > > jim
> > > 
> > > >--
> > > >From:Person, Roderick[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >Sent:Tuesday, February 16, 1999 10:28 AM
> > > >To:  'debian-user@lists.debian.org'
> > > >Cc:  The recipient's address is unknown.
> > > >Subject: Which Kernal supports over 6.0 GB HD
> > > >
> > > >I just bought a 6.4GB but Linux only reads it as 6.0GB, which
> > Kernal do I
> > > >need to get the full access
> > > >
> > > >Thanks.
> > > >
> > > >
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Lilo or Loadlin...

[Person, Roderick]

Ok,

I've settled the problem of HD size and I can live with the answer now my
problem is this, hdb hold all my linux stuff it works. hda is a small 250M
that is dedicated to windows (for the wife and kids). Problem, I have now
documentation on the drive since it came with the PC and dont know the
jumper settings to make it a slave. Therefore it must boot. But, while
installing windoze, and becoming very upset with reboot error stuff, I
didn't remember to save my boot sector from windoze.

So,
How do I setup lilo or loadlin to boot hdb? Which is better??

root doesn't have permission?

[Person, Roderick]

What would cause root not to have permission to delete a file, directory or
symlinks.
Is there anyway to correct this problem.

I've tried chown and chmod and everthing I can think of. 

Can Windows95 cause error on my Linux Drive.

[Person, Roderick]

Hey All,

Recently, I added a new drive to my system as the slave 2nd drive.
Therefore, I made my old drive a Win95 drive so the family could play games
and such. Now it seems that everytime I log into my Linux drive (/dev/hdb) I
get file system not unmount correctly errors. I fsck and get it in operating
conditions and a day or two later i get the same errors. Could this be due
to how other users are logging out of win95 or not logging out and just
shuting off the machine? Drive 1 is totally win95(1.2GB) drive 2 is 5GB for
Linux in 4 partitions and 1GB for win in one partition. Anyone having this
problem.

Roderick P. Person
DBA/Programmer
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RE: x won't run

[Person, Roderick]

If it wasn't for the fact that you had X running under FreeBSD, I would say
you window manager is not configured. I have always had problems with
X86Setup. I would try xf86config, it's not pretty but it works better IMHO.

Rod

> -Original Message-
> From: Chen Xu [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, March 04, 1999 3:16 PM
> To:   Debian-user
> Subject:  x won't run
> 
> Hi all, I just installed Debian2.0 from official CD. And I configured the
> Xf86Setup right. But every time when I do 'startx', it crashed and I saw
> the following messages
> 
>  none of the configured devices were detected ***
> "no screen found"
> 
> I knew the conf I did is right because I finished XF86Setup with no
> problem and actually got xserver running, and I used have FreeBSD on the
> same box and running X great!
> 
> What's wrong? 
> 
> Chen 
> 
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RE: Can Windows95 cause error on my Linux Drive.

[Person, Roderick]

I know what you mean about authority! 

Right now I boot Linux by F8 to stop the windows from loading and then I run
my linux bat file that calls
 loadlin vmlinuz root=/dev/hdb1.

Now being that my wife is in computer pre-school, I don't think she can boot
Linux. The partition argument between windows and Linux should good to me,
I'd have to study that more.  I was planning to use chos to boot my
computer, but right now I don't want the wife and kids playing with Debian.
I am a newbie (6 months) and they can barely get a floppy in the
drive...that's why I choose the F8 method.

Rod

> -Original Message-
> From:  Raymond A. Ingles [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, March 04, 1999 4:52 PM
> To:   Person, Roderick
> Cc:   'debian-user@lists.debian.org'
> Subject:  Re: Can Windows95 cause error on my Linux Drive.
> 
> On Thu, 4 Mar 1999, Person, Roderick wrote:
> 
> > Hey All,
> > 
> > Recently, I added a new drive to my system as the slave 2nd drive.
> > Therefore, I made my old drive a Win95 drive so the family could play
> games
> > and such. Now it seems that everytime I log into my Linux drive
> (/dev/hdb) I
> > get file system not unmount correctly errors. I fsck and get it in
> operating
> > conditions and a day or two later i get the same errors. Could this be
> due
> > to how other users are logging out of win95 or not logging out and just
> > shuting off the machine? Drive 1 is totally win95(1.2GB) drive 2 is 5GB
> for
> > Linux in 4 partitions and 1GB for win in one partition. Anyone having
> this
> > problem.
> 
>  Hmmm. So far as I know, just booting Windows (or even powering
> it down) shouldn't be able to muck up a Linux partition. I can only think
> of two ways this could happen. First, Windows doesn't agree with Linux
> about where the partitions are and is overwriting things. In this case,
> though, you'd probably have a horrible time recovering the filesystem, and
> it sounds like fsck is doing the job for you so far. Second, someone might
> be using a Windows tool to access the Linux partition and that utility is
> buggy. I've never used it but I hear there is some sort of tool that'll
> let you do that.
> 
>  On the other hand, how do you boot Linux on this machine? Is there a boot
> menu (like LILO) or do you use a boot floppy? At home, my system boots
> Linux by default, and only boots Windows if someone specifically asks.
> Fortunately, my wife knows how to use Linux, at least for web surfing, and
> knows not to just power off Linux. I don't have a lot of authority in our
> house, but she trusts me about the computer. :-> She only made that
> mistake once, and I got just the symptoms you describe.
> 
>  If it's possible for your family to accidentally boot Linux, they might
> say, "Oh, shucks" and power off and on again for a second try at
> Windows... thus hosing Linux. Make sure they know the consequences of
> this.
> 
>  If it's still too hard for them to understand, you can set things up to
> always boot Windows, and use a boot floppy to boot Linux. It's less
> convenient for you, but *very* hard for your family to make a mistake
> (unless you leave the floppy in the drive). If you do this, make sure you
> have at least one backup boot floppy in case the main one goes bad.
> 
>  Sincerely,
> 
>  Ray Ingles  (248)377-7735[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
>   Modern inductive method: 1) Devise hypothesis. 2) Apply for grant.
>  3) Perform experiments. 4) Revise data to fit hypothesis. 5) Publish.

RE: Can Windows95 cause error on my Linux Drive.

[Person, Roderick]

This is what I did, except I believe I used the Linux fdisk to create the
partitions. Is this going to make such a difference. Windows does not detect
my Linux partitions - so maybe the overlapping partitions my be the answer I
will check that out as soon as I get home. Thanks All!!



> -Original Message-
> From: Kenneth Scharf [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, March 05, 1999 8:29 AM
> To:   debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject:  Re: Can Windows95 cause error on my Linux Drive.
> 
> Windows and Linux can co-exist on the same disk drive without
> problems.  I have windows 95 and debian on different partitions of the
> same disk.  Windows / dos will ignore partition types 81, 82 ,83 etc. 
> What you need to do is to first partition the virgin disk under
> windows (leaving room for linux!) then add your linux partitions using
> linux fdisk.  The reason is to insure that MS fdisk doesn't do the job
> wrong and grab part of the linux partitions. (I have heard that MS
> fdisk can try to make partitions not using whole number of cylinders
> while linux fdisk always rounds up to a whole cylinder.)  Also
> installing windows first allows you to set up lilo to use the MBA and
> boot windows as the second (or first) choice.  (Seems weird having
> lilo boot windows by default, but I have done this!).
> 
> 
> 
> ==
> Amateur Radio, when all else fails!
> 
> http://www.qsl.net/wa2mze
> 
> Debian Gnu Linux, Live Free or .
> 
> 
> _
> DO YOU YAHOO!?
> Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
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RE: Can Windows95 cause error on my Linux Drive - Other Co-existi ng OS Problems...

[Person, Roderick]

This maybe true, but I have noticed that once I mount a DOS floppy in Debian
after two or three times It is unreadable by Windows. It seems to me that
Linux is Hell on floppies. Even my Debian only floppies seem to have a
extremely short life. I thought my Floppy was dying then i changed it and
still the same problems.

> -Original Message-
> From: Tom Pfeifer [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, March 04, 1999 10:38 PM
> To:   Debian User Mailing List
> Subject:  Re: Can Windows95 cause error on my Linux Drive.
> 
> "John C. Ellingboe" wrote:
> > 
> > Back when I did use one of the Gates viruses I had problems with win9X
> > writeing to areas of the disk that it shouldn't.  Some of those disks
> > are still unusable today because of that.  I would make sure that
> > there were NO M$ partations on my Linux disk at all because of that.
> > I would keep all of the M$ stuff on its own disk so it could never
> > access my Linux disks in any way.  You have been warned...
> 
> Well, let's not *too* get carried away with the anti-MS stuff. Nothing
> any OS writes to any disk, anywhere, will make it permanently unusable.
> If nothing else, clearing the MBR sector and starting from scratch will
> work.
> 
> Tom
> 
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Kernel Image. Where can I Find one?

[Person, Roderick]

I have tried and tried to compile a Kernel, for sound... I just can't seem
to do it.
Does anyone know where I can find a kernel Image with sound compiled in. I'm
running 2.0.34 now. So I would like it to be that or higher.

Roderick P. Person
'Still Have given me a title, and I'm writing Visual C++ code..."
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RE: WVDial segfaulting

[Person, Roderick]

I use wvdial and have never had nay problems. How is he disconnecting it? Is
he using it under X or Console. You can hit 
ctrl + C and it will 'attempt to exit gracfully' and disconnect without seg
faults



> -Original Message-
> From: Paulo Henrique Baptista de Oliveira [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 1999 6:18 AM
> To:   debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject:  WVDial segfaulting
> 
>   Hi Debian users,
>   a friend of mine installed Debian 2.0 and tried to connect in
> Internet
> using pppconfig and doesnt suceed but with wvdial he can connect in Net
> but
> when he disconects wvdial segfaults and he has to reboot the computer.
>   Any ideas? I think that he is using the last wvdial because he
> updates
> do Debian 2.1 later.
>   Have a nice day,Paulo Henrique
> 
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rc.local -> What is the Debian Eqivalent

[Person, Roderick]

I have installed some tars and I need to set some thing to run at boot. For
example I need to have the followiung to line execute at boot.
/usr/X11R6/bin/xfstt --sync
/usr/X11R6/bin/xfstt&

I used RH for a minute and these were placed in rc.local...I must confess I
forget the debian placement. What file do I place these in or can I just
make a bash script and and place a symlink to it in the appropriate rc#.d ?




Roderick P. Person
Title, I don't need no stinking title
454-2616
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RE: Bios Problem

[Person, Roderick]

I assume you installed linux to boot from the HD. If so, it looks as if you
Box can only boot up HD1. It looking for Linux there.
You need to get a boot disk and fix your MBR.


> -Original Message-
> From: Simone Rapizzi [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 1999 12:40 PM
> To:   Debian Mailing List
> Subject:  Bios Problem
> 
> Hi,
> 
>  I've just installed Linux, but I can't use LILO:
> 
>  When I reboot I see:
> " L 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01"  and so on.
> 
> Does anybody know why?
> 
> I have Win98 on my primary HD and I've installed Linux on the first
> partition of my third HD.
> 
> Thanks.
> Simone Rapizzi
> 
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Re: rc.local -> What is the Debian Eqivalent

[Person, Roderick]

This is my problem I think. I have the hamm xfstt installed. i didn't know
it was broken. i think I'm going to install this from slink, then try the
other stuff if no good. Will I have to more ny ttfs from /var/ttfonts?

BTW, for some reason when I try to reply all to your emails, my sytem blows
up! Of course I'm at work using, NT 4.0, I keep telling them to by Alpha
servers and install Linux. But, they just made me a DBA, so hopefully I can
infect the system with Debian!!  ;)

Roderick P. Person
Business Analyst
454-2616
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Floppy Drive Problem.

[Person, Roderick]

Hey guys,

The first question of the day for me has to due with Debian and Floppy
drives. When I first installed debian, I had no problems with floppy drives,
and in the quest for the perfect Deb Box something when wrong, I guess. 

It seems that I can format ext2 fs on floppy. At first I thougth my FD was
just dying, so I replaced it. Now when I make a ext2 disk it won't mount and
info to it is not copied to it. Now, I can read DOS, ext2 floppys that I
already have but once I write to them, I can no longer read them. I have
tried changing fstab fd0 entry from auto to ext2 to msdos, but it all the
same. Anyone have a clue on this one.

Roderick P. Person
?
454-2616
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kernel Image Size.

[Person, Roderick]

Ok,

I finally got a kernel to compile!! Now, it telling me it too large to
mount!!! So I remade it, making as much stuff as possible as modules. Still
too large. So I tried to make bzImage - STILL TOO LARGE!!

What FF is the larges size a Kernel can be to get mounted!! My smallest
kernel so far is 808,536 in size. My largest was over a Meg. Help ! All I
maked was to hear Window Maker! That's all

Roderick P. Person
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RE: Debian

[Person, Roderick]

Are you sure your mailing the right list or am I just missing the question.

Are you looking for an app to help design badges and pins or are you looking
for a Debian logo or something all together different?

> -Original Message-
> From: marfe98 [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, March 11, 1999 11:29 AM
> To:   debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject:  Debian
> 
> Good Day.
> 
> My name is Martin Feldt an I am a study at media and communicatios at
> the mid-university of Sweden.
> The students in Sweden has a sort of a "national costume", a plain
> workers
> overall. The idea is to embellish it with textile badges and pins.
> The more the better!
> 
> So my questions to you is if you maybe could give me some.
> That would be of interest both for you and me, because I would be
> eternaly
> greateful and for you because I help you to show your trademark.
> 
> If that is not possible I thank you for taking the time to read
> this mail.
> 
>  Best regards Martin Feldt
> 
>  Gronborgsgatan 13:49
>  852 37 Sundsvall
>  Sweden
> 
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Kernel 2.2.1 question.

[Person, Roderick]

I compiled this kernel and I noticed that the vmlinuz image was not set as
executable. So I chmod so it would be and I got a kernel panic. I compile
again and tried to boot, leaveing it as not executable and got module load
errors that left me only able to reboot to my old kernel. I use loadlin to
boot from DOS. With a boot disk the same things happen. Any clues?

Roderick P. Person
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System Hosed a.k.a Don't be nice to the wife and Mother-in-law!!

[Person, Roderick]

OK,

The Mistakes
It was all my stupid mistake. I was working with some tar's having fun
hacking in Debian, and then my wife and mother-in-law need to use the
computer to web browse. So since I had netscape running in Debian and that
what they use in Win95, I decided to be nice and let them use Debian instead
of logging out rebooting and all that. Fatal mistake 1. Fatal mistake 2 -- I
was logged in as root. Anyway I check on them an hour later and there in
Windows - WHAT THE FFF, How!!  So the get done. I discovered that they just
shut the machine off and started again!

The Problem
So here is the problem. I boot to wdm. But now it does startx it drops and
my screen flashes off and on. I need to disable wdm before it starts. I
can't crtl+alt+backspace,  crtl+c, crtl+z or even crtl+alt+F3. I tried to
use the rescue disk but it booted me to wdm. How can I boot to the console,
I must be missing a parameter for the rescue method. Also, I normally boot
with loadlin!! 

Roderick P. Person
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RE: Kernel 2.2.1 question.

[Person, Roderick]

Yes I did compile with elf support.

> -Original Message-
> From: Paul Miller [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 1999 8:04 PM
> To:   Person, Roderick
> Cc:   debian-user
> Subject:  Re: Kernel 2.2.1 question.
> 
> "Person, Roderick" wrote:
> > 
> > Paul,
> > 
> > Thanks for the reply. I kept getting the message that the kernel could
> not
> > find  bin_fmt-464c so I tried a trick I saw in LJ and placed alias
> > bin_fmt-464c in /etc/conf.modules. No luck. I've compile the kernel 4
> times
> > now and still can't get it right. So I found a .deb of the 2.2.3 image
> and
> > I'm know trying that, but it doesn't find my OPTi card!!
> > 
> Are you compiling support for ELF binary format into your kernel? This
> option can be found under the General Setup section of menuconfig.
> 
> -- 
> Paul Miller
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: grrr, No response from modem

[Person, Roderick]

In minicom you need to make your modem either:
 /dev/ttyS2 
or
 /dev/ttyS3
Depending on which modem your using.

BTW, /dev/ttyS2 would be your 3rd serial port, /dev/ttyS0 being the first
serial port and so on..

> -Original Message-
> From: Jay Barbee [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 1999 5:12 PM
> To:   debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject:  grrr, No response from modem
> 
> Well... I am not sure what is going on.  I have never had this much
> problem
> with a modem.  I have two serial port that are detected (with serial in
> the
> kernel or as a module), but I cannot get one light to flicker.
> 
> I have try two different modems (external) and two different serial
> cables.
>  I have setup pppconfig, and minicom.  Niether one make the modem react
> even when I try ttyS[0-3] and cua[0-3].  I am not sure what is going on at
> all.  Here is the kernel log:
> 
> Mar 16 16:49:16 torch kernel: tty02 at 0x03e8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A
> Mar 16 16:49:16 torch kernel: tty03 at 0x02e8 (irq = 3) is a 16550A
> 
> Modem should be in the first serial port.  Any ideas how I can get this
> thing to talk?  I am out of ideas.
> 
> --Jay Barbee
> 
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RE: grrr, No response from modem

[Person, Roderick]

What kind of modems are they. Did they ever work in Debian.

> -Original Message-
> From: Jay Barbee [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 1999 11:42 AM
> To:   Person, Roderick; debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject:  RE: grrr, No response from modem
> 
> At 3/17/99 11:18 AM -0500, Person, Roderick wrote:
> >In minicom you need to make your modem either:
> > /dev/ttyS2 
> >or
> > /dev/ttyS3
> >Depending on which modem your using.
> >
> >BTW, /dev/ttyS2 would be your 3rd serial port, /dev/ttyS0 being the first
> >serial port and so on..
> 
> Thanks for the reply...
> 
> I have tried all 4 serial devices in minicom.  Nothing works.  I even
> tried
> the old 'cua' devices too.  Those did not work either.
> 
> While I am in minicom, the serial modules is in use, but as I said... the
> modem does not make a peep or even a blink.  Very odd.
> 
> --Jay Barbee
> 
> PS: My computer has two builton serial ports listed as port1 and port2.
> setserial detects these as ttyS2 and ttyS3 (which I know are the 3rd and
> 4th serial devices).  Mine is physicall pluges into port1, which I am
> seeing as ttyS2.  But as I said.  I tried them all!
> 
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RE: Can Debian run in IMacs?

[Person, Roderick]

Won't the m68k version run on an IMAC. 
> -Original Message-
> From: Paulo Henrique Baptista de Oliveira [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 1999 1:55 PM
> To:   debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject:  Can Debian run in IMacs?
> 
>   Hi all,
>   My teacher was thinking about putting Linux in his IMac. I'm
> wondering
> if Debian has a dist that fits IMacs. If so, where I can download it.
>   Thank you,  Paulo Henrique
>   Please CC to me because the address that I'm subscribed to the list
> is
> with problems. It's urgent, because he tell me to download MKLinux dist.
> 
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RE: Can Debian run in IMacs?

[Person, Roderick]

I did not know that. Thanks I was thinking of getting one as a second PC,
but not know!

> -Original Message-
> From: Ares [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 1999 2:28 PM
> To:   Person, Roderick
> Cc:   'Paulo Henrique Baptista de Oliveira'; debian-user@lists.debian.org;
> recipient list not shown
> Subject:  RE: Can Debian run in IMacs?
> 
> No chance. The Imac is a PPC based distro, which won't be available
> from Debian as a stable release until potato is stable, or so say the
> plans @www.debian.org.
> 
> JDM
> 
> On Wed, 17 Mar 1999, Person, Roderick wrote:
> 
> > Won't the m68k version run on an IMAC. 
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Paulo Henrique Baptista de Oliveira
> [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 1999 1:55 PM
> > > To:   debian-user@lists.debian.org
> > > Subject:  Can Debian run in IMacs?
> > > 
> > >   Hi all,
> > >   My teacher was thinking about putting Linux in his IMac. I'm
> > > wondering
> > > if Debian has a dist that fits IMacs. If so, where I can download it.
> > >   Thank you,  Paulo Henrique
> > >   Please CC to me because the address that I'm subscribed to the list
> > > is
> > > with problems. It's urgent, because he tell me to download MKLinux
> dist.
> > > 
> > > 
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RE: installing debian

[Person, Roderick]

When you deleted the partition in DOS, did you restart the computer. You
then should have free space in the amount of the erased partition. What is
the rescue disks error message when you try to partition the disk. Do you
have Debian CDs too?

> -Original Message-
> From: Juan Revollo [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 1999 3:30 PM
> To:   debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject:  installing debian
> 
> I am beginning the installation process where I am to repartition my
> drive.
> The rescue floppy that I'm using to install was not able to repartion &
> now i'm stuck.
> I had a dos partition and tried to delete it with dos fdisk but this did
> not work.
> 
> Any help would be appreciated.
> 
> 
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RE: REQUEST

[Person, Roderick]

Let me get this. You have gotten past the base install and are trying to
install packages. You then start dselect and try and select a install method
(harddrive, cdrom, NFS etc.) and it can't find your HD?

> -Original Message-
> From: m.nau [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 1999 3:59 PM
> To:   debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject:  REQUEST
> 
> Hello there!
> 
> After about 5 hours with Debian 2.0, trying to install it, 2 cans of
> coffe, about 10 broken pens and raw nerves, I decided to ask for help.
> My problem is:
> After starting dselect as / , it is asking for a "block device".
> But it does NOT accept any HD!!!
> PS:
> The installation took place at /dev/hdc2 (whitch is not accepted too...)
> After a wrong input at the dselect prompt, the system does not accept ^C
> to cancel, nor any other key!
> I tried it with 5 different attempts to reinstall and so on, but the only
> thing working is the raw system, nothing mounted.
> Please help, before I completely drive insane!!
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RE: Stumped!! Cdrom not a valid block dev.

[Person, Roderick]

We have a winner. Broken CD . I guiess I've been hackin' too hard

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> -Original Message-
> From: E.L. Meijer (Eric) [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, March 18, 1999 4:14 AM
> To:   debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject:  Re: Stumped!! Cdrom not a valid block dev.
> 
> > 
> > My cdrom has worked fine for months - after i figure out it was a
> > goldstar. Now Debian claims it is not a valid block device.
> > 
> > On boot, I get the cdrom detected, happy goldstar message. which is
> good.
> > I try to mount it and I get not a valid block dev. I tried to MAKEDEV
> and
> > it seem to compile but still not lucky. I even tried mount cdrom, but of
> > course in /etc/fstab it is /dev/gscd. Any help on this one?
> 
> Um, this may be a silly question, but is there a CD in the drive?
> Also, I think you will get  such a message if the CD is broken, or
> audio format, so try another one.  Also, it sometimes helps to reseat
> the connectors of your cdrom.  Does it work in other OS-s?
> 
> No offense intended ;)
> 
> Eric Meijer
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Forcing Modules

[Person, Roderick]

i'm trying to force old modules into a new kernel. Specifically kernel
2.0.36 modules into kernel 2.2.3. I tried i
nsmod -f modulename 
not luck.  It tells me that module was compile for kernel 2.0.36. Now, the
reason is that my 2.2.3 was an image I downloaded. I don't have the source.
I'm trying to get away without downoading the source and recompiling the
modules.

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RE: grrr, No response from modem

[Person, Roderick]

>>> First modem is MultiTech ZDX 19.2k bps and the second is a USR
Courier
>>> v.everything 33.6k bps.
>>Are they set to different settings. If they are on the same
setting you will 
>>get
>>nothing.
>
Hummm, are you talking about the modem's config, or minicom/ppp
config.  I 
am using the same software configuration, but I am leaving the
hardware as 
default.


I think we're asking for interupt configuration  for these two modems are
they the same or different, they should be different.
Did you try and remove one modem and see if the other is detected, this
would rule out if the modems have the same settings and are conflicting.
If that does work try moving the mouse to com 3 and the modem to com 1.


> -Original Message-
> From: Jay Barbee [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, March 18, 1999 9:27 AM
> To:   debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject:  Re: grrr, No response from modem
> 
> >At 3/17/99 07:58 PM -0800, Shanta McBain wrote:
> >>Jay Barbee wrote:
> >>> First modem is MultiTech ZDX 19.2k bps and the second is a USR Courier
> >>> v.everything 33.6k bps.
> >>Are they set to different settings. If they are on the same setting you
> will 
> >>get
> >>nothing.
> >
> Hummm, are you talking about the modem's config, or minicom/ppp config.  I
> 
> am using the same software configuration, but I am leaving the hardware as
> 
> default.
> >
> >>> I figured pretty standard modems.  I was using the USR on a NT with
> all the
> >>> same cables, so I know the cable and modem do work.
> >>>
> >>
> >>You could try wvdial it detects modem setting on installation.
> >
> I installed the package and it did not find the modem.  How could this be?
> 
> Here is how the config looked:
> 
> --[SNIP]--
> Scanning your serial ports for a modem.
> 
> Port Scan<*1>: Ignoring ttyS0 because /dev/mouse is a link to it.
> Port Scan<*1>: S1
> ttyS2<*1>: AT -- AT -- AT -- nothing.
> ttyS3<*1>: AT -- AT -- AT -- nothing.
> 
> Sorry, no modem was detected!
> --[SNIP]--
> 
> Are these ports just not working?  I know the modem and cable work fine on
> 
> another system.
> 
> --Jay Barbee
> 
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LINUX Magazine

[Person, Roderick]

Hey,

Just a little heads up to those who don't know.

I was in Barnes & Nobles and there is a new Linux Mag called Linux Magazine.
Of course there is an interview with 
Linus. But by far the coolest thing is the cover. All black with a big
Microscared in gray cracked stone like look. I didn't even thing twice about
picking it up. There seems to be some real cool article for example how to
port 2.0 modules to 2.2 ( something I need to do!!!), intro to system calls.
I think this is going be good one.

Peace!!

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RE: LINUX Magazine

[Person, Roderick]

www.linux-mag.com

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, March 19, 1999 3:43 PM
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]; debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject:  Re: LINUX Magazine
> 
> In a message dated 3/19/99 2:38:57 PM Central Standard Time,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> writes:
> 
> > I was in Barnes & Nobles and there is a new Linux Mag called Linux
> Magazine.
> >  
> 
> If they have a website up - can you post the URL for us?  Thanks..
> -Jay

Slink Questions apt and /dev.

[Person, Roderick]

I just completely upgraded to slink. I decided to use the apt method of
installation from dselect since ftp is no longer there. It seemd to work
well. Chose the packages and download while I slept, answered some config
questions before work this morning. My question is with the old ftp it aked
where to save your debs. Where does apt store the debs?

Question 2. Anyone using an old goldstar based cdrom. I seem that the slink
gscd module is hosed. I get a error message that I can't recall - something
about ill formated script, but it says the module installed correctly. But
mount it gives me the invalid block device. MAKEDEV says it doesn't know how
to make gscd.  Has anyone come across this in slink.

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RE: more ram and larger harddrive then the bios can take

[Person, Roderick]

I did this with a 486 33 whose BIOS limit was 850Mb. I installed a 6.4GB.
DOS could do nothing with it. But linux worked fine. cfdisk detected the
whole drive and I never had a problem. Until, I formated a partition using
WIN 95 and used it to store data from Win95. Windows really hosed the drive,
writting beyond the bounds..I guess now thinking of it the partitions was
bigger than what the bios could read so I guess this could even work.

I upgraded to a 166 anyway.

> -Original Message-
> From: Kenneth Scharf [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, March 22, 1999 3:06 PM
> To:   debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject:  Re: more ram and larger harddrive then the bios can take
> 
> 
> > 
> > Q2
> >   My bios manual say that it´s limit is 8,4 gb harddrive. But if i
> have
> > the root inside the 8,4 gb limit is it possible to have, lets say, a
> 15 gb
> > hardrive?
> 
> Yes but 
> 1: You MUST have the bootable partition (say /boot) completely below
> cylinder 1024.
> 2: Fdisk and Cfdisk probably get the disk size from the bios and will
> therefore not see the whole disk.  You must give the disk parameters
> to fdisk in the startup invocation.
> ==
> Amateur Radio, when all else fails!
> 
> http://www.qsl.net/wa2mze
> 
> Debian Gnu Linux, Live Free or .
> 
> 
> _
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> Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
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RE: SAMBA

[Person, Roderick]

This is cool! this seems to be exaclty what I'm looking for! Finaly I can
play my Darksun games in Linux!! I guess I can do my work at home to. 

> -Original Message-
> From: Shaun Lipscombe [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 1999 10:02 AM
> To:   Egon Schmid
> Cc:   Person, Roderick; 'debian-user@lists.debian.org'
> Subject:  Re: SAMBA
> 
> 
> Wow!  I didn't know their was software around that enabled you to do this.
> 
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RE: SAMBA

[Person, Roderick]

Actually, my wife and kids use Win 95. And sometime I have to go in and fix
there messes (Play sysadmin). Sometime I download stuff (in Debian) for
them, the logout and install it into Win 95. I would like to do all that
without leaving Linux and of course I like to play some of my games link
Orion and NHL 97 and all my DND games, that run in Win and Dos

> -Original Message-
> From: Will Lowe [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 1999 10:22 AM
> To:   Person, Roderick
> Cc:   'debian-user@lists.debian.org'
> Subject:  Re: SAMBA
> 
> > I was wondering if it was possible to use SAMBA connect WIN95 and LINUX
> on
> > the same machine sort of a pseudo network thing? Has anyone tried this.
> 
> Not unless you can run both of them at the same time (actually,   you can 
> ... see http://www.vmware.com).  Linux can mount Windows drives,  so what
> are you trying to do?
>   Will
> 
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Recommendations C++ compiler and IDE.

[Person, Roderick]

Hey All,

I need recommendations for a C++ compiler and IDE. I am an app developer for
a health insurance company, pretty small in size. 3 peopl in the IS shop. So
far I have been unsuccesful in my attempts to get the higher ups to switch
for a NT network to  Debian. So, I like to be able to work at home on my
Debian box. I need a C++ compiler than allows me to call store SQL
procedures and then be able to transfer my work at home to work. At work we
use Visual C++ (although all applications are console or DOS based so far -
no NT GUIs.) and MS SQL server. I have mySQL installed at home (for personal
use) but I'm not sure if it can access ODBC databases. So I need something
like Borland C++ and a SQL database that can handle ODBC. Is anyone doing
such things with there Debian box? Any hints would be MUCH appriecated.
 

Roderick P. Person
Programmer/ Crystal DBA
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Slink upgrade and /usr/local problems locating libs!

[Person, Roderick]

Hey guys,

Since I have upgraded to slink 
I have noticed that when I unzip certain tars in /usr/local the binaries
seem to have trouble finding the required libs. For example, Wingz3 can't
find libXpm.so.4 although it is in /usr/X11R6/lib. Wingz3 worked with hamm.
Has there been some kind of change in Slink that would cause this?

Rod

lspci -- can't find.

[Person, Roderick]

I have kernel 2.2.3 installed. I on boot when the sound module is loaded I
get the error
lspci:can't find 

I forget the rest (i'm at work), but when I try to initalize the sound card
with isapnp I get the same error. What is lspci? Where do I get it?

Thanks

Rod.

RE: Help!!!!!! Package install problems!!!

[Person, Roderick]

I  have the same type of CDROM. I used the goldstar cdrom driver (gscd). I
works fine. Try that driver and you should have full access to the CD.

It is possible to use dselect without the the packages file - but I don't
recommend this. I have done it that way and it can lead to problems. When I
did use dselect, I only copied one package file - do to HD space limits. It
will function but you may not find some of your .debs. If you copy the
package file from contrib non of the non-free  packages will be reflected.
Then you would need to dpkg those debs. If you use the DOS or HARDRIVE
installs you will need the full path names that you have saved your debs to.
Packages does need to be in one of the directories listed in your dselect
setup.

Hope this helps. If you want more details let me know.
Rod.


-Original Message-
From:   Lyndon Fletcher [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent:   Wednesday, December 16, 1998 10:38 AM
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject:Help!! Package install problems!!!

Hi,
   I'm reposting this message with a few clarifications in the hope
that
someone will answer my questions.

I was recently lent an old 486 PC by a friend so that I could do
some
Web server development. The machine is not mine and not readily
upgradable so I HAVE to work with what I have. First limitation is
that
the machine only has ~360Mb of hard disk space, limitation number 2
is
that the machine has an old CDROM drive with an ISA based
proprietary
controller card. This card is NOT supported by Linux, though I have
a
DOS boot disc with the nescessary drivers for DOS. I also have
Cheapbytes version of the Debian 2.0 CD.

OK. Now I cann't load Debian directly off of the CD because the
CDROM
drive is not supported. So I got base installed on the machine by
creating a 30MB Dos partition and copying the basic installation
files
on to it from DOS. Install went OK up to the point where I need to
install packages, then the lack of the CD (and space on the HD for
temporary storage) became a problem. I need parts of about 8 or 9
packages some of which will involve loading up to 80MB at a time in
temporary storage if I can't use the CD as source.


My problem is how to load the rest of the packages. I have a couple
of
ideas and would like to know the answers to a few specific
questions.

1) Idea 1

I could copy a few packages at a time onto the 30Mb Dos drive and
install from there. 

Question 1 --- To run dselect do I only need the .deb files or do I
need
the "packages" files too? 

Question 2 --- If I do need the "packages" file do I have to edit it
to
reflect the actual path to the .deb files? If not how do you deal
with
loading packages from paths different from those in the package
file?

Question 3 --- What constitutes a package? I have several
directories
called things like "net" do I copy the whole directory or just the
.deb
files I seem to need?


Idea 2

I also have a laptop PC with a working CDROM (running win95) on
which
I've installed an FTPD for win95. 

Question 4 --- when I try to use this machine as an FTP source,
Dselect
seems to expect a specific layout dist/stable/main et al

Unfortunately my CD has the form d:/debian/hamm/hamm... How can I
change
this so that Dselect can read fron the remote drive?

Question 5 --- the "packages" file has the paths to the files listed
as
dist/stable/main etc. However, the layout of my CD is
D:/debian/hamm/hamm/binary-i386/... would I need a new packages file
with the paths corrected?

Question 6 --- is it possible to use a "packages" file in a
different
path from where the .deb files are stored?

Hope that you can send me some answers... I've been pulling my hair
out
over this all week.

Thanks

Fletch


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RE: Debian too difficult, Red Hat?

[Person, Roderick]

I have to totally agree with Colin. I have spent many nights up with linux
until 5 or 6am, so tired that I see double images. Then something clicks and
everything I could figure out starts working!!

As for my experiences with other Linux dists. I have used Red Hat 5.1 and
Open Linux 1.2 and the truth as I see it Red Hat and Open Linux are very
easy to install. But, in my experience, they are slower and not as nice to
configure and manipulate as Debian.  Everything is graphical and that nice
but hard to find out what exactly is going on. I think Red Hat is for people
who want to run Linux but not configure and thing (sort of a Windows 95
thing). I think Red Hat will probably be distro to succeed in the mainstream
since anyone can pop it in and go.

If on the other hand you want to learn Linux and what makes it tick and have
an OS that you dictate DEBIAN is the way. 

Just more of my 2 cents.
Rod..

-Original Message-
From:   Colin Boyd [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]



1) Develope a strong love for Linux. So strong that nothing will
kill it.
2) Make coffee, and stay up drinking it and hacking at linux until
you can
no longer clearly see your monitor. Usually this is at about 4-5am.
3) If something doesn't work, forget about it for the time being and
move on
to something else. If you allow yourself to get lost in linux, it's
quite
enjoyable. Just wander through your system and check out anything
that looks
interesting. Read...Read...Read...anything related to linux that you
can get
your hands on.
4) I've always found it helpful to keep in mind that if something
isn't
working...most of the time it's your fault. Just keep the faith that
Linux
is Good and that eventually you will get it working. As you work
with it,
your knowledge of it will grow exponentially.

-Colin


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Internet and Mail Question.

[Person, Roderick]

Hey All,

At home I connect to the net using a freenet with a firewall and all that
lovey security stuff that I know nothing about. It's non graphical and uses
lynx. I can not receive e-mail there because it a general mass account no
individuals. I use web based mail such as netscape.net and coolmail. My
questions are these.

Is there a way of downloading e-mail from one of these web based email
systems by using some type of automate e-mail program such as fetchmail etc?
If so what is needed on my part?

Also is there a way to make the free net use my copy of linux instead of
their? I can access the configuration of the free net link and it does ask
for a directory name for a browser but and don't know how to make it look
into my box. If this is possible with the firewall and all.

Thanks
Rod.

RE: Corel® WordPerfect® 8 for Linux® is here! (fwd)

[Person, Roderick]

Here's the link. According to the stats I was 3rd to download, so I figured
it was hard to find.

http://www.download.com/PC/corel/download/
 

Rod.

[no subject]

[Person, Roderick]

I have a second linux box (running Red Hat 5.1) that I want to switch to
Debian 2.0. The machine has some apps that I have never got running in
Debian, but are running on this machine. Is there a way to change the base
system and libs to Debian without erasing the existing apps.

Any help would be appreciated, I have been working on this for a week or two
now!

Rod.

Booting Problems, Floopy drive is dying!!

[Person, Roderick]

Hi All,

I am upgrading a system from Red Hat to Debian 2.0. But it seems the floppy
drive on the box is dead. I can not write a boot disk no matter what I tried
to do. I use new floppies, old floppies etc and nothing works. At the point
where dinstall ask you to insert a floppy and everything seems to go well.
It does the deviation check and seems to write the disk. Then after write
the last cylinder something flash on the screen to quick to read and it is
then covered by the color dinstall message - "determining next set".

Basically, I need to know if  I can find a Debian boot image on the web or
net. I've checked Debian.org did see it. Any hints.
Rod.

RE: Switch to Red Hat?

[Person, Roderick]

I would say don't do it. I switched to Red Hat for this reason and it the
biggest regret of my linux life! Red Hat ran slower in everything on my
sytstem. 
The installition is very simple but it make admin task very complex (without
using the graphical interfaces). The structure of the file system is
different and very annoying to me. The Red hat dist also make dependencies
that don't exist in Debian. For example, xdm is dependent upon xbanner. The
system also becomes bloated. I have a 250 MHD, withRed Hat I had 10M free
after the basic X Red Hat install. With Debian, I had near 100M and had X
tons of other stuff. Debian RULES!!!

Rod

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> Sent: Friday, January 08, 1999 8:24 AM
> To:   debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject:  Switch to Red Hat?
> 
> Hello Debian users,
> 
> I have been using the Debian distribution of Linux for many months now,
> but am starting to recognize deficiencies in available, up-to-date
> packages.  For example, the latest GNOME files are 0.99.2 but I cannot
> find .deb files for it anywhere.  The best I could find was 0.30.  This
> wouldn't be an issue if I could actually make my own, but many times the
> packages simply won't build for me.  The *other* major distribution, Red
> Hat, has .rpm files available for the GNOME project and they are pretty
> much up to date but I can't get them to install on my Debian system.  I am
> torn because I like the fact that Debian packages are easy to find and
> download, but it seems that Red Hat is more up-to-date.  Are there others
> that have found this as a problem?  Can someone convince me not to *cross
> over*?  I am tempted to just run out and purchase Red Hat 5.2 and wipe my
> Debian system and leave it all behind me.  Is there an alternative?
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Jeff 
> 
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windowmakers .0.20 and dockit.

[Person, Roderick]

Hey All,

Just got windowmaker 0.20.0 running and I noticed that dockit does seem to
work. I tried to run it from Midnight Commander and it said it didn't exist
although I can see it plain as day.

What 's the deal. Is it gone or just a bug...

Rod.

RE: windowmakers .0.20 and dockit.

[Person, Roderick]

I assume that this is part of wmakerconf, which I have got to yet.

Rod

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> Sent: Monday, January 11, 1999 2:03 PM
> To:   Debian User List
> Subject:  Re: windowmakers .0.20 and dockit.
> 
> Hi Rod,
> 
> On Mon, Jan 11, 1999 at 01:08:54PM -0500, Person, Roderick wrote:
> > Hey All,
> > 
> > Just got windowmaker 0.20.0 running and I noticed that dockit does seem
> to
> > work. I tried to run it from Midnight Commander and it said it didn't
> exist
> > although I can see it plain as day.
> 
> it has become obsolete with the advent of the "emulate appicon" feature in
> 
> the attributes menu.
> 
> So long,
> Stephan
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X apps and windowmaker

[Person, Roderick]

Hey all,

I'm using windowmaker 0.20.3 and some apps that I run Maxwell,
xmaddressbook, amaya and xpaint are larger then my virtual screen. When this
happens I can get either to the title bar to Kill the app or to the bottom
of the app to resize it. I set windowmakers to keep apps inside the screen -
did nothing and I can find a geometry settings in any of these app config
files. I'm not sure is I can use geometry as a start up option on these apps
either. But for xpaint the problem occurs when I select create new without a
size...

Any thought would be greatly appreciated...

Rod.

3Com/USR modem and firmware upgrade??

[Person, Roderick]

Hey All,

I just acquired a 3Com/USR 33.6 modem. It came with the software to upgrade
it to a 56k modem of course its for Win95 or Win3.1
My Box is 100% Debian. No DOS no Windows. Does any one no of a way to
upgrade the modem. I assume that a linux version is not in existence.
I know I need windows on the box to use wine, so that is not an option. But
what about WABI? Any other suggestions would be great appreciated.

Rod...

[OFF-TOPIC] CRC errors & 33.6 3 COM external modem

[Person, Roderick]

Hey all,

been spending time upgrading hardway. I aquired a 33.6 3Com external modem. 
Quite a boost from my old 14.4...I quess If I did get so many F#$ CRC
errors. 

I've tried what the manual syas to do 

load AT&F1 no luck, different phone line. Lower the port rate  no luck.
I use minicom to connect to a free net to connect to the net to download
.debs. I'm starting to think that maybe the problem is minicom or lsrz? 

Has anyone run into this problem? Anyone have a suggestion. Is there an
alternative somewhere to lsrz.

Rod..

Netscape Error --- Error 209

[Person, Roderick]

 Hey it 's me again,
 I switched from Mozilla to Netscape to try and get things running. I got
the ppp and DNS running now I get the following error from Netscape.

Error 209: bus error

Now I don't understand this at all. I set the MOZILLA_HOME Variable. Qweb,
Arena and Lynx work (qweb and Arena are too slow, though.) So were is this
bus error coming from.

>   

RE: Is this smart HD partitioning?

[Person, Roderick]

>From looking at this I and what the sound is I take a stab at this:

The crackling sound sounds like the scan that updates your find dB. When you
do a find on your computer it checks this dB for locations of things(to be
simple). Anyway I think you Linux parts are too big, hence it seems as if it
locking up. I had this problem. I would split /dev/hda7 and /dev/hda4 into
different partitions such as:

/   root partition 60M
/var60M
/usr860M
/usr/local  860M

or something like that. This also will give you added safety incase of a
crash or just stupidity that occasionally creeps into everyone. Gladly I
know nothing about the win98 stuff but I assume it along that same lines as
a find scan, but I give that to someone else


> -Original Message-
> From: Hans van den Boogert [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 1999 8:43 AM
> To:   debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject:  Is this smart HD partitioning?
> 
> My Acer Travelmate 512T laptop (Celeron 366, 96 MB RAM), has a 4.6 GB IBM
> hard drive in it. I partitioned it as follows...
> 
> /dev/hda1 primary Fat32 (1000M)
> /dev/hda5 logical Fat32 (900M)
> /dev/hda6 logical Fat32 (800M)
> /dev/hda7 logical Linux (1000M)
> /dev/hda4 primary Linux ext2 (840M)
> /dev/hda3 primary Linux swap (100M)
> 
> Now I find that the hard drive is constantly "accessed and reset." I mean
> that it seems the disk is being accessed for a second, then goes back to
> inactivity with an almost crackling noise. If the disk was reading data
> this would seem normal, but it happens out of the blue, while there is no
> process running that requires disk access.
> 
> This happens both under Linux as well as Win98, but it is more pronounced
> under Linux. 
> 
> I was wondering if it could be because the partitioning I did was too
> minute. My idea was to keep all the Fat32 partitions on one side of the
> disk, all the Linux partitions on the other.
> 
> I was thinking myself to re-partition as follows, just to experiment...
> 
> /dev/hda1 primary Fat32 (1000M)
> /dev/hda2 primary Fat32 (1700M)
> /dev/hda3 primary Linux ext2 (1840M)
> /dev/hda4 primary Linux swap (100M)
> 
> I have a similar partitioning scheme on my desktop and it works fine.
> Still
> I want to check with you guys first to see if I am on the right train of
> thoughts.
> 
> -- Hans
> 
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[Person, Roderick]

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RE: spreadsheet that can open CSV files?

[Person, Roderick]

I use WingzPro. 

I got it from ftp.sunsite as a  .tar but It works for me.

Rod

> -Original Message-
> From: rich [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, April 15, 1999 9:18 AM
> To:   Debian
> Subject:  spreadsheet that can open CSV files?
> 
> Hello all,
> 
> I would also like to be able to use a GUI-based spreadsheet that can
> import tab- or comma-delineated files (as far as I can tell, gnumeric
> canNOT?) like corel quattro or excel... Is there anything out there?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Rich
> 
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Modules loading problems.

[Person, Roderick]

Hi All,

I 've been very busy and haven't had much time to read the group lately but
I'm back. Anyway, I have a problem with loading my modules for 2.2.3. I had
to compile the modules for the GSCD driver. It seem to have gone fine. I did
make install and still seemed good. But, when I modconfig or ins mod the
module it either hang my box and I have to turn the power off or it loads,
but when I boot, I get a no depenency found error. I'm I missing  a step
somewhere?

If you can't help, how about a suggetion for a CD-R or CD-RW that is very
Linux 2.2.3 compatible.

Thanks 
Rod

Children Linux and Wine....

[Person, Roderick]

Hi Fellas,

I'm at work and my 10 year old just called me to find out how to shutdown
Debian and boot Win95. This brings a question to mind. Has anyone
successfully or half-successfully gotten a Win95 game for Kids to work?

I have gotten wine to run notepad and such, but being there is nothing I
really use in windoze that was just for the learning. I really would like
the kids to learn linux but, without games like Barbie and Math Blaster it
pretty tough. Any help or suggestions.

Rod...

PS. It pretty tough to get uptime to brag about when the kids need to use
winblows

IDEA:Offical Debian Support Team?

[Person, Roderick]

Hey guys,

I've noticed a lot of vendors jumping on the Linux bandwagon and and
starting to offer support for thier system that run Linux. But, it seems
that it is only for SUSE, Redhat, Caldera and TurboLinux. WHY NOT DEBIAN? Is
it because we are not commercial? And if so, I propose a Debian support
team. I love Linux and Debian and I want to see it grow and live. But, it
seems that if only the commercial distro get support Debian my lose
developers and disappear. This would sicken me! I believe Debian to be the
best of the distros (I have used Redhat and Caldera). Although it not what I
call pretty (graphic set install and adminastration), it is far more stable,
flexible and all out better.

This is something that concerns me and I would hate to see Debian lost
because of not being commercial. 

Just thoughts. Any comments? Is this stupid or what?

Rod

RE: Fonts is X and Linux

[Person, Roderick]

What window manager are you using? Most have a configuration util that
allows you to set different fonts. I use WindowMaker and I can set fonts
either with WMPrefs or wmakerconf.

> -Original Message-
> From: Tommy Malloy [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, April 22, 1999 11:35 AM
> To:   debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject:  Fonts is X and Linux
> 
> What is the best information source to learn about the use of fonts in
> Linux and X?  To be perfectly honest I have no idea how to use the many
> fonts that are available to me under X.  I have xfontsel installed and
> have looked at it, but I am not sure how to use it to change default
> screen fonts and stuff like that.  Changing fonts should be fairly
> simple, and probably is, but it does not seem that intuative. Could
> someone point me in the right direction.  Thank you.
> 
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Boot Error Message after potato upgrade.

[Person, Roderick]

Hi All,

Just installed Gimp1.1 from potato using apt-get and got 11.4M of upgrade.
I'm using kernel 2.2.5 (F%$ HOSTILE!! aka Rules). Anyway, after the gimp
upgrade I get this error on boot.

   initd 2.76 booting
   could not initalize

It hangs for sometime the boots. Everything seems find, but is it?

Rod..


BTW..for anyone wondering what happened to my Debian support idea, I'm in
the works of refining it. I think it might lead to my total liberation from
the use of NT in that I gotten offer to start a Linux based support
company...

RE: xterm/top horizontal scrollbar

[Person, Roderick]

Have you tried RXVT. I know it has a vertical scroll, but I have never
noticed if it has a horizontal. I haven't run into a need for one yet, that
I can recall.

> -Original Message-
> From: ktb [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, April 23, 1999 12:03 PM
> To:   debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject:  xterm/top horizontal scrollbar
> 
> I have Top loading in an Xterm window in Fvwm2.  I set Top to display
> the command line instead of the command name and some of the command
> lines are well off the right edge of the Xterm window.  I can resize the
> window to view these command lines but I was hoping I could find an
> option to Xterm to add a horizontal scrollbar.  I've looked at the man
> pages for Top and Xterm and don't see anything like that.  I notice
> Xconsole has such a scrollbar.  I was wondering if anyone knows how to
> set up Xterm with such a scrollbar or is there another option that would
> suit my wants better?
> Thanks,
> kent
> 
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KAFFE?

[Person, Roderick]

Hi,

I remember reading some e-mails about Kaffe and potato. 

Is there a Kaffe Deb available. I can't find one, I've look in experimental
and potato.

If not, can someone give me pointers on compiling the .tar. I have that, but
can get it working.

Thanks

Rod

FW: Microsoft Restaurant...Just some Microsoft humor

[Person, Roderick]

>   
> If Restaurants Functioned Like Microsoft... 
> Patron: Waiter! 
> Waiter: Hi, my name is Bill, and I'll be your Support.
> Waiter. What seems to be the problem? 
> Patron: There's a fly in my soup! 
> Waiter: Try again, maybe the fly won't be there this time. 
> Patron: No, it's still there. 
> Waiter: Maybe it's the way you're using the soup. Try
> eating it with a fork instead. 
> Patron: Even when I use the fork, the fly is still there. 
> Waiter: Maybe the soup is incompatible with the bowl. What 
>   kind of bowl are you using? 
> Patron: A SOUP bowl! 
> Waiter: Hmmm, that should work.  Maybe it's a configuration 
>   problem. How was the bowl set up? 
> Patron: You brought it to me on a saucer. What has that to 
>   do with the fly in my soup?! 
> Waiter: Can you remember everything you did before you 
>   noticed the fly in your soup? 
> Patron: I sat down and ordered the Soup of the Day! 
> Waiter: Have you considered upgrading to the latest Soup 
>   of the Day? 
> Patron: You have more than one Soup of the Day each day?? 
> Waiter: Yes, the Soup of the Day is changed every hour. 
> Patron: Well, what is the Soup of the Day now? 
> Waiter: The current Soup of the Day is tomato. 
> Patron: Fine.  Bring me the tomato soup, and the check. 
> I'm  running late now.
> [waiter leaves and returns with another bowl of soup  and the check]
> Waiter: Here you are, Sir.  The soup and your check. 
> Patron: This is potato soup. 
> Waiter: Yes, the tomato soup wasn't ready yet. 
> Patron: Well, I'm so hungry now, I'll eat anything.
> [waiter leaves.]
> Patron: Waiter!  There's a gnat in my soup!
> The check:  
>  Soup of the Day . . . . . . . . . . $5.00
>  Upgrade to newer Soup of the Day. . $2.50
>  Access to support . . . . . . . . . $1.00
>  
> 

RE: silly mouse question

[Person, Roderick]

I have to say that using the gpm autodetect never worked for me. 

Just type in the mouse type and info yourself Just use /dev/psaux for the
mouse type.

I never used XF86Setup. Didn't like it. I prefer xf86config, much better!
Try that and use the same driver for the mouse.  

> -Original Message-
> From: Michael Stenner [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, April 30, 1999 10:11 AM
> To:   Debian User Mailing List
> Subject:  silly mouse question
> 
> At least I hope it's silly
> 
> Installing 2.1_r0 and I have a PS/2 mouse (says so on the mouse) plugged
> onto the PS/2 port on the box.  Problem is, neither gpm nor X seem to be
> happy with it (i.e. see it at all)
> 
> gpm's "autodetect" promptly rules out ALL possibilities claiming they
> have a different "read() semantic" and XF86Setup lets my try any
> combination I want... just that none of them work :)
> 
> any clever ideas about what to try next?  The only idea I have is to try
> lots of combinations of things and hope that one works.  If anyone has
> any more systematic ideas, I'd be happy to hear them.
> 
>   -Michael
> 
>   Michael Stenner Office Phone: 919-660-2513
>   Duke University, Dept. of Physics [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>   Box 90305, Durham N.C. 27708-0305
> 
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RE: silly mouse question

[Person, Roderick]

>  It claims that /dev/psaux is not a
> directory (which I agree with :) ).  Sorry I didn't mention it
> 
    [Person, Roderick]  
This sound like the you need to make the device, although I have to
say I never had this problem, with a mouse of having to make the device. I'm
not 100% on that better check with someone else. That seems to me a strange
error.

> Acually, I'll one-up ya'.  I HATE xf86config!  i either use
XF86Setup or
> edit the file by hand.  It didn't occur to me that the problem might be 
> that the wrong stuff is being put into the file, though.
> 
[Person, Roderick]  
Well, I have to agree that editing by hand is the best by far. But,
I haven't had time to figure out the monitor section, so I use it to get
that working, and patch up the rest of the file. I do recall that XF86Setup
and xf86config, write the the XF86Config file differently. It seems to me
that when I did use XF86Setup the config file came out smaller. I didn't
know if that was good or bad. But, since I could never get my X server to
start with it, I assumed it was bad. 

Rod

LinuxBerg??

[Person, Roderick]

Has anyone checkout linuxberg.com. 

I went there to check out some themes and such, but everything I follow is a
windows theme. I even downloaded the LINUXBERG theme and it for win95. That
cool since I'm at work and using NT, but what is the deal. I can't seem to
find anything fro linux. I'm I just having a brain dead day?

Rod

RE: IDE for JAVA

[Person, Roderick]

I've been testing out a couple of JAVA and JAVA/C++ IDEs lately, So far I
have Tried Elixir IDE, Simplicity IDE and Wipeout. I have downloaded
NetBeans but it's was the .pl auto installer and I have got that to compile
yet. Of the three Simplicity is the coolest. It like Visual C++ by M$, it
writes code and all the cool stuff, but it cost $150. You can download it
for free and test it out, it just doesn't save anything. It's worth the
$150, but I have broken down and bought my first Commercial Linux App.

I'm using ElixirIDE the most, Totally JAVA. It generates some code like the
main and class statements and some comments, but nothing fancy. It for
hardcore programmers that like to get down into the code. I only been using
it a week, so It may generate more code but I have found all the tricks yet.
I like it the best.

Wipeout looks cool. I can't figure out how you compile programs using it,
but it was free and easy to install.

All of these were .tars or .zip no .debs, but I see someone says a rpm
exists of netbeans, I have to check that out.

Links to all these are a JAVA-Linux http://www.blackdown.org/ . Check it
out!

Rod



> -Original Message-
> From: Brant Wells [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 1999 5:39 PM
> To:   debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject:  IDE for JAVA
> 
> Howdy All :)
> 
> Is there anyone that knows of a good Java Programming Environment for
> Linux??
> 
> TIA,
> Brant
> 
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OFF TOPIC: Solaris x86, WABI and Linux.....

[Person, Roderick]

Hey guy, 

I'm staring at a copy of solaris for intel arch, that includes the WABI
cdrom.

Any one have any experience with using this. Is it worth installing on a 133
pentium?

I have found some softtware for solaris that I want to use but  can't ge tit
to run on linux.

That is question 2, has anyone ported any solaris software to linux? I like
to use WABI and JAVA workshop.

Thanks

Rod.

Time Keeps A changin'

[Person, Roderick]

Ok guys,

I've asked this before, but I try again. I upgraded to libc6 in potato and
it hosed my JDK and a few other thing I use, so I downgraded to libc6 from
slink. 

Then my time got screwed. I reinstalled timezones and set the date a time
and everything seemed fine. Except that when I need to reboot, the time gets
hosed again!!!

Simple solution don't reboot!!! But, I have kids and a wife and they still
like Windows dispite all attempts and destroying it (damn games). Anyway,
does anyone have a clue.

Thanks 
Rod

processes spawned by usr 'nobody'?

[Person, Roderick]

I have noticed that every so often my HD would start to whine like it was
being search. It made me curious and a ran a top and I found the a the find
utility was started by user 'nobody'. Is this a normal thing to have
processes spawned by the nobody user? Or is this a problem as I think it to
be?

Rod..

Linux and FreeBSD file system mounting.

[Person, Roderick]

Hey all,

I've been playing with FreeBSD and Linux. I was trying to mount a FreeBSD
partition from linux and got a nice little message. And being at work right
now i can remember the error, but I remember the second line of the error
said  Sun Fing Sucks me. AH, although I love the error message it
doesn't quite help me. 

I'm using Debian 2.1 with kernel 2.2.5 trying to mount a FreeBSD 3.1
partition. I have used:
  mount -t ufs /dev/hdb1 /Freebsd
and placed a reference in my fstab, but nothing is working, I'm starting to
believe that there is some incompatiblity in the nfs modules of the two.

sidenote: Has anyone had this problem or know if this is true. I created a
Linux partition. I noticed that if I use kernel 2.2.5 everything is fine
(that the kernel that was running when the part was created). But, I had to
boot with a 2.0.36 kernel ( I use loadlin and my 2.2.5 image was erased -
damn kids) and it would not read the partition is this possible? 


Rod

RE: Configuring X server

[Person, Roderick]

The first thing I think you should do is reconfigure your xserver using PS/2
as the protocal, just because it a microsoft mouse doesn't mean it's
microsoft protocal. With your window manager being twm all you should get is
a checkered screen on the inital start up. twm is VERY basic. After the
mouse is working, I think you should start getting results. Left mouse
button brings up the menu. 

Good luck
Rod

> -Original Message-
> From: Michelle Coelho [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, May 17, 1999 3:04 PM
> To:   debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject:  Configuring X server
> 
> I installed the following:
> twm
> xf86setup
> xfree86-common
> xserver-vga16
> xfonts-100dpi
> xfonts-75dpi
> zlib6g
> xterm
> xbase-clients
> xfonts-scalable
> xserver-common
> xfonts-base
> xserver-svga
> xdm
> 
> I have the following:
> Video adapter VGA
> Monitor VGA color
> Video Memory: 0kb
> VGA chipset: Western Digital
> 
> My mouse is Microsoft, so I guess the name is /dev/psaux (it's PS/2 
> compatible). It's a 2 button mouse.
> So I configured the Xserver like this:
> Mouse protocol: Microsoft
> Mouse device: /dev/psaux
> Emulate3buttons enabled
> Resolution Medium (default)
> Button 3 (default)
> Sample rate : 0 (default)
> Emulate3timeout 50 (default)
> 
> I don't have a video card, so the card selected was none.
> 
> Then I commited the changes, and ran the server using startx.
> 
> But the mouse only seems to remain in the first row, and even then moves 
> very fast..it seems to be too sensitive. Also the menu barely pops up. 
> All I get is a fine checkered screen with a cross signifying the mouse 
> pointer. And when I click on any of the buttons, I don't get anything, no 
> arrow, no menu, nothing..
> 
> I thought this may be of help in diagnosing the problem:
> I get the following warning: /dev/psaux unable to get status of mouse fd 
> (Inappropriate ioctl for device)
> 
> Any suggestions would be appreciated.
> Thanks.
> Michelle Maria Coelho
> Department of Computer and Information Science
> Purdue School of Science
> 
> Phone: 1-317-278-2948  
> Fax  : 1-317-274-9742
> 
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zxip??

[Person, Roderick]

was I in some haze or fog or was it just to late at night, but wasn't there
a package called xzip or some type of .zip .tar frontend for x. Does anyone
know? I can't seem to find anything in slink.

Rod

RE: linuxconf

[Person, Roderick]

There is a linuxconf in the debian experimental archives. It requires libc6
from potatoe and some other stuff from there, it works and is better that
the linuxconf that I used (redhat 5.1 version). The X version of the
linuxconf is really cool. But, the libc6 from potatoe did like some stuff on
my slink box, so I had to get rid of it.

> -Original Message-
> From: Timothy C. Phan [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, May 24, 1999 9:24 AM
> To:   debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject:  linuxconf
> 
> hi,
> 
>   I'd like to know if there is a tools in debian distribution similar the
> linuxconf in
>   redhat?
> 
>   Thanks!
> 
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RE: linuxconf

[Person, Roderick]

ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/project/experimental

I believe the differences is in the stablity and that the are either less
stable. Although, I never had a problem with the linuxconf packages ...
except one package linuxconf-boot which even warns you on installation that
it can hose your system, so I never used it. But the X package and the rest
seemed to work fine!

Rod...

> -Original Message-
> From: Johannes Beigel [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, May 24, 1999 3:11 PM
> To:   debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject:  Re: linuxconf
> 
> 
> "Person, Roderick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > There is a linuxconf in the debian experimental archives.
> 
> Where can I get experimental packages?
> 
> Are they even more unstable than packages from unstable/potato?
> 
> Jojo.
> -- 
>   Johannes Beigel   |  "Gravity.
>   http://come.to/jojob  |   It's not just a good idea, it's the law!"
> 
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RE: Replacement for Netscape

[Person, Roderick]

My original reason for switching to Linux was that my poor old box (HANK
r.i.p) was only a 486SX33 with 8MB of RAM. I ran X and Netscape on it with
no problem. It took time for it to start up Netscape and such apps, but once
started the ran with problem.

Now I have a P166 overclocked to 200Mhz running Kernel 2.2.7 and with 64MB
RAM. It runs great. I would suggest running a 2.2.X kernel if your not. I
noticed a real improvement in speed from 2.0.36 to the 2.2.x kernels. I'm
not a kernel hack so I don't know why it does or how being that the bogomips
remain the same but there is a very significant increase in speed. You'll
notice it on boot.

Rod... 



> On Wed, 26 May 1999, Ben Collins wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, May 26, 1999 at 01:45:23PM -0500, Kent West wrote:
> > > On Wed, 26 May 1999, Ralf G. R. Bergs wrote:
> > > 
> > > > On Sun, 23 May 1999 20:51:55 -0500, Matthew W. Roberts wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > >Netscape 4.51 for X is just too slow on my slightly dated pentium.
> Does
> > > > 
> > > > Huh???
> > > > 
> > > > Netscape 4.51 is everything else but slow. You probably simply have
> too 
> > > > little memory. I suggest to install at least 128 megs.
> > > 
> > > Ya know, we really oughtta quit advertising the idea that Linux runs
> well
> > > on 486's with low memory and drive resources
> > 
> > I have a sparc 1 (equal to about a 386) running Debian potato with
> 12megs of
> > RAM and on an 80meg drive (50 being used). Linux runs perfectly fine on
> old
> > hardware. Just because Netscape is bloated, does not mean the system is
> (ie,
> > Netscape's install would increase the footprint of that system on the
> hardrive
> > by about %50). The only thing the server does it web and ssh. No X, no
> comiles, etc.. It does server as a shell for a few people to get email and
> irc though.
> > 
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RE: upgrade problem

[Person, Roderick]

I'm not a potato user, but it should as if you have a font path in your
xf86config that does not exist anymore, or possible has moved from it slink
placement to it potato placement. This happened to me with truetype fonts
placement from hamm to slink. Check on that. Hope it helps.

Rod...


> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, April 30, 1999 8:16 AM
> To:   debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject:  upgrade problem
> 
> Hello!
> 
> I have upgraded from slink to potato. 
> But something happend. I could not start X
> after the upgrade. So I decided to config
> XF86Config again. When I type XF86Setup I have
> got following error : _X11TransSocketUNIXConnect-
> Can't connect : errno = 111. So I tried xf86config
> but when I type startx : Fatal server
> error: could not open font 'fixed'!
> What to do ?
> 
> //thx Johan 
> 
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RE: java

[Person, Roderick]

There are linux .tar of JDK, but as Shao said I would use .debs until you
get familiar with debian. I'm attempting to use JDK2 myself from the Solaris
.tar, but it has been as easy as I thought it would be. But, JDK1.1 run fine
either as the .deb or the .tar.

Be sure to check out blackdown, there is lots of stuff that I got there for
java that run fine on Debian.

Rod...

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, May 28, 1999 1:38 PM
> To:   debian-user
> Subject:  Re: java
> 
> Thanks for your help.  I'm not short of JDKs (on CDs and on the Win95 half
> of my hard drive), but I don't know my way around Debian yet.  I presume I
> would need some Debian program (jdk1.1-dev?) to install the JDK.  I didn't
> find
> anything
> linux-specific on the javasoft site.  Would I have to upgrade (from hamm)
> to
> slink for this?  (I seem to be years away from getting my internet
> connection working.)
> 
> >On Fri, May 28, 1999 at 12:45:30AM +0200, moron wrote:
> >> I opted for Debian for the same reason (okay, even more so) that I
> decided
> >> some time ago to try programming in java.  (I'm not a professional
> >> programmer, it's for my own amusement and for an amateur(ish) website.)
> >> Guavac seems to work, but I'm writing things blind.  Do I have to have
> >> Netscape on my limited partition to see what it looks like?  dselect
> >> suggests a jvm but doesn't offer one.
> 
> Von: Carl Mummert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >You probably should get the jdk from sun; you can install it in
> >/usr/local, or there is a debian package that takes the tarball
> >from /tmp and installs it for you.
> >
> >Once yu have that, you can use the 'appletviewer' program to
> >see applets, without needing any html or even a webserver.
> >The JDK will provide the jvm for you to test java programs
> >(of the non-applet kind) if you write them.
> 
> Von: Shao Zhang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> >If you have installed jdk1.1 and jdk1.1-dev in slink, then you should
> have
> the program
> >appletviewer. Can this do the job for you??
> >
> >If it doesn't, let me know exactly what you want... I am sure there will
> be
> a solution...
> >
> 
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