X down, other errors after apt-get upgrade
I was running testing stably for over a year, but a standard apt-get upgrade left things fairly messed up: 1. X won't start from startx, the tail of the X log says: Fatal server error: xf86OpenConsole: Cannot open virtual console 3 (No such file \ or directory) Interestingly, if I start gdm (normally disabled) then X will start, but weird things happen--I can only launch one instance of aterm, on subsequent launches the window flashes open and then closes. cdrtoaster froze on me (see below). 2. I constantly get these message in the console: INIT: Id "3" respawning too fast: disabled for 5 minutes INIT: Id "6" respawning too fast: disabled for 5 minutes This seems very weird. I run at runlevel 2, have set gdm to start at runlevel 3 so if I want it I can enter 'init 3', but these messages start after boot before I log in, and when I do log in the runlevel is 2. 3. I tried to burn the Sarge net install CD with cdrtoaster while running X with gdm as described above. cdrtoaster froze and I had to kill the process, now my /dev/sg1 device file is gone. 4. On the "do something stupid if you don't know what you're doing" theory, I upgraded to unstable last night. No change in any of the above (well, I didn't really expect the device file to magically come back). I was running unstable until Woody shipped, then switched to testing, so this didn't feel like too much of a risk. I'm off to school to burn a new CD, I'm basically ready to start over with a clean install of Sarge, judiciously spiced with settings preserved from /etc. But I'm open to repairing this system if not too difficult. Any advice? Regards, Paul -- Paul Mackinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: my CUPS RUnneth Over!!!
Derrick 'dman' Hudson declaimed: > | Once upon a time, CUPS worked for me. Then I tasted of the fruit of > | knowledge, > > _of Good and Evil_. The Lord doesn't wish His people to be stupid. > He desires for them to be holy and righteous... > Thanks Derrick, I really enjoyed this off-topic digression. I hope that others can appreciate your good intentions and your humor, regardless of their feelings about the content. Paul -- Paul Mackinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Apt-install base system to non-root drive?
Hi, I'm off to cruise through the docs, but some quick help on this would be appreciated. I have a booting, network-capable system, but it's not running well. I'd like to install a clean copy of Sarge to a spare hard drive. The Sarge net-install CD was a total failure (see rant below, or ignore it). So is there any easy way to run the base install to a local partition? Once it's there I can boot it with grub and I'll be set. The Apt-HOWTO doesn't seem to cover this. Can dpkg or dselect do it? [rant] Burned a copy of the netinst CD for Sarge and had a _bad_ experience: dialogs scroll options off the top of the display, no way to page up and see what the first six options were, operations fail and I'm told "go back" to a previous sections but no mechanism to do so is provided (reboot & start over?), attempt to load Tulip network driver fails because the module can't be found although I'm booted from the durn install CD. [/rant] TIA, Paul -- Paul Mackinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
DONE: Apt-install base system to non-root drive?
Rob Weir declaimed: > On Mon, Feb 17, 2003 at 09:30:40PM -0800, Paul Mackinney wrote: > > Hi, I'm off to cruise through the docs, but some quick help on this > > would be appreciated. I have a booting, network-capable system, but > > it's not running well. I'd like to install a clean copy of Sarge to a > > spare hard drive. The Sarge net-install CD was a total failure (see > > rant below, or ignore it). So is there any easy way to run the base > > install to a local partition? Once it's there I can boot it with grub > > and I'll be set. The Apt-HOWTO doesn't seem to cover this. Can dpkg or > > dselect do it? > > Use debootstrap to create a base Debian installation, which you can boot > into and then expand upon. The canonical guide for this is Karsten's > Debian Chroot Install HOWTO, available from > http://kmself.home.netcom.com/Linux/FAQs/DebianChrootInstall.html Thanks very much. I did something else, but if Karsten wrote it, I'll read his HOWTO. > > With regards to installing Sarge... <<<-- rant deleted -->>> > Would this be a Sarge debian-installer iso? Indeed it would, it's the entirely cool, debian-authorized 80+ MB netinstall CD. The problem (other than me) was that although nothing on the Welcome screen mentioned this (it isn't customized for a net install CD yet), I had to enter 'net' at the boot: prompt to get things going properly. Still had the problem with menus scrolling off the top of the screen, but was able to to get the install done. 24 hours later I'm sitting at a running system with my old /home directory and 70%+ of the mission-critical stuff going. Now that everyone's been so kind, I guess I ought to demonstrate some good citizenshipedness and go check out the bug list for the Sarge install and see if I can log anything helpful. Thanks! Paul -- Paul Mackinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Thanks Pigeon for Your mailfilterrc
Doug MacFarlane declaimed: > On Mon, 2003-10-20 at 22:10, Pigeon wrote: > > On Mon, Oct 20, 2003 at 11:39:15AM -0500, Thomas H. George wrote: > > > The dialog on spam has become so lenghty I am afraid you would never see > > > my thank you note there. > > > > > > Just wanted you to know how much I appreciated your posting. Another endorsement. Thanks, Pigeon! BTW: mailfilter's author is Andreas Bauer. His website is worth checking out. PM -- Paul Mackinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Problem with instalation Debian on Be6 II
MarekL declaimed: > I want to install debian. When I try to install it, I have a message, > that there is no hard disk. Help me what to do. Please I m new user of > debian so send me very understable explanation.Pozdro This list will give you the best help if you give us the exact text of the error. It would also be helpful to know generally what your system is like (what CPU? what hard drive?) HTH, PM -- Paul Mackinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Games for 1-2 year old child. Recommendations wanted.
klaus imgrund declaimed: > On Sunday 05 October 2003 14:40, Andrew Perrin wrote: > > On Sun, 5 Oct 2003, Bengt Thure'e wrote: > > > > > Thanks, but it sort of demands an internet connection. I hope I can use > > > a very old laptop (Pentium 100), and no internet connection... Just to > > > put her somewhere and she can hack and slash at the keyboard... :-) > > > > > > > My son has loved emacs for just this application since he was about 11 > > months old. > > > > I know that this is probably flamebait - but is there any specific reason a > 1-2 year old child has to play with a computer? > I know that all the geeks have proof that this actually improves social > interaction but I am a little old fashioned. > > Prost, > > Klaus Klaus, I am right with you (and enjoyed Pigeon's post as well). We imposed a zero-TV rule for our daughter. Effectively, we all quit watching TV. Today the only video I see is rented movies, watched with headphones after the wee one is aspleep. So what happened? Without the TV babysitter we spent more time talking and reading to our daughter (and to each other). She developed sophisticated verbal skills and delights in fantasy games of her own devising. It helped that our preschool had a rule against wearing clothes with corporate characters or logos. Today we do use books on tape as a babysitter. We'd planned on phasing TV back in at around 4 yrs old, but then we found a school (Waldorf, OT flame starter :-) that believes in no video for kids until age 10. This seems extreme to me, but is doing no harm. At age 6, Hannah has taught herself addition and multiplication by counting things and asking questions, recently she discovered multiplicative commutivity (one case, anyway) by counting a 5x6 egg tray. I have no fear for her future achievements, there'll be plenty of time to start on coding theory. And yes, at age two she enjoyed using a keyboard, typing in SimpleText on my wife's Mac with the font set really big. As for me, without TV I've had the bliss of missing Star Search, Survival, and lord only knows what else. As far as I can tell, the only thing I'm missing is the Daily Show. And I _think_ I'm getting the BBC's best thanks to video and DVD releases. Father Ted! PM -- Paul Mackinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Adding scsi devices ???
[EMAIL PROTECTED] declaimed: > > Michael, > > forgive me if I am just stating the obvious or if I should have missed > your point. > > > Last night, he added a SCSI cdrom and tape drive to the system. He > > insists that the AIC-7980 controller lists the devices during post. (nontechnical explanation) post is everything that happens between power-on and when the OS is loaded. (Assuming IBM hardware here.) Usually you get a message from the video card, RAM test, MB info about built-in devices such as floppies and the IDE bus, then other cards may display information. Most SCSI cards that I've used display a status message and identify the devices found on the bus, jumperless cards will typically offer a chance to configure the card. The fact that the devices were recognized by the card is good news, but useless unless the proper Linux drivers are loaded. -- Paul Mackinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
USB primer?
Hi, this is mostly a request for a pointer to the right docs. I haven't ever had any USB devices until the past few months, when I picked up a webcam, scanner, and mouse. The webcam & the scanner aren't on the compatability lists, but I'm curious to get the mouse going. There doesn't seem to be a USB howto, and I've no idea what modules to load or what device listings to try. dmesg doesn't list anything about a USB hub. I'm glad to receive general pointers to USB docs, or specific advice for my hardware (all really cheap stuff I picked up for <$10 after rebate)): Webcam is Veo Connect [it sucks] Scanner is Artec e+48u [not too great] Mouse is Logitech Wheelmouse (optical)[very nice, can move wheel without accidentally clicking button 2] TIA, Paul -- Paul Mackinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mailman problems
Ed Lawson declaimed: > I am running a server using woody with Exim as MTA and am having > troubles getting mailman to function. The web interface works and snip > What else is needed or is something broken here? When I had problems getting Mailman to go on Debian, I ended up switching from Exim to Qmail, after which things went beautifully. I never did solve the Exim problems, and both the Exim>Qmail upgrade and the Mailman setup went quickly. If you don't quickly get a helpful answer from this list, you might try the Mailman users list. http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users HTH, Paul -- Paul Mackinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mailman problems
Andy declaimed: > > > I am running a server using woody with Exim as MTA and am having > > > troubles getting mailman to function. The web interface works and > > snip > > > What else is needed or is something broken here? > > > > When I had problems getting Mailman to go on Debian, I ended up > > switching from Exim to Qmail, after which things went beautifully. I > > never did solve the Exim problems, and both the Exim>Qmail upgrade and > > the Mailman setup went quickly. > > Can anyone else comment about Mailman working with an Exim MTA? > > I am about to install a Debian system for a customer to act as a file/print > server but also to run Mailman to blast out newsletters to a mailing list of > over 5,000 people. Does it matter which I use...Exim or Qmail? It shouldn't. Reading my post I feel embarassed that it's so unhelpful. The reason that I didn't persist with Exim was that that I was modeling the new system on one that had used Qmail and the person I was working for was more comfortable with it. If you can't get it going and want to try Qmail, it's very safe: Qmail is set up so that you can install and test it before switching from your old MTA. Paul -- Paul Mackinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: LinkSYS BEFSR41 router
Antonio Rodriguez declaimed: > I am trying to install drawboard (http://drawboard.souceforge.net) in my > home network as trial before making it accessible to the outer world. But > when I run > "java -cp ." as indicated the response from the system is "unknown > option" > I have installed sun java jdk.1 version from testing, so I suspect that the > sun version requires another option equivalent to "-cp" > Any ideas? > A second question is related to making my home network accessible from the > outer world. I have both machines (win98 and testing) behind a linksys > etherfast cable/dsl BEFSR41 model router, and would like to know how to > implement that. Any ideas, pointers to docs, etc will be greatly > appreciated. I have the same (or very similar router). There are two options: 0. You should know how to get to the router administration window in your web browser. If not, email me directly and I'd be glad to help out. The key here is that you have to find out your external TCP/IP address, which can be obtained from the Status window. So having obtained your address from the 'IP Address' field of the 'WAN' section, you email to yourself at work, write it on your hand, etc. This number is likely to change whenever you turn off your router for more than 12 hours... **NOTE** If anyone out there knows how I can find this out without having to personally run the web browser manually, PLEASE tell me! 1. You can give your home machines fixed addresses in the Setup window, and then go to Advanced > Forwarding and set your machine to receive the ports you'd like to use. I use 22 (ssh/scp) and 80 (http). Note that only one machine can receive a given port. 2. You can go to the DMZ Host window and give one machine unrestricted access to the Internet, just as if there were no router. This way you'll be subjected to all the port scans and other attacks that make the Internet the fun place that it is. :-) HTH, Paul -- Paul Mackinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: LinkSYS BEFSR41 router
Antonio Rodriguez declaimed: > Hi Paul, I am having some problem here. I set the ports for http and ssh > as indicated in the Advanced > Forwarding section, but I astill can not > reach the computer from the outside world. > I didn't give my machines afixed ip in setup, since it would go against > the dhcp settings ( I think). Could this be the reason for the > invisibility problem? () > From my other machine I can see now the page, but not from the WAN. > More detailed, I got the router's IP, and set the http request to port > 80 to the Linux machine where I have the apache server running. When I > point the browser to the routers ip from the outside it just hangs > there. I assume it most be some issu with permissions in the Apache > settings, or may be some module missing, but I don't exactly what the > problem is. > Any ideas? > Thanks. > Here's how mine is set up. All pages not mentioned are default settings. Setup page - LAN IP address is 192.168.1.1, all else as my ISP requires. Advanced > Forwarding - Port 22 -> 192.168.1.50, Port 80 -> 192.168.1.50 That's it! My Linux box is set to static IP address 192.168.1.50, my wife's Mac is set to 192.168.1.51. To switch your Linux box from DHCP to fixed, all you have to do is a) Note the addresses of your DNS servers. You can get this from the Windows box by running 'winipcfg' from Start>Run. (Maybe someone here knows how to get this from Linux if it's not in /etc/resolv.conf already?) b) Edit /etc/network/interfaces. Comment out the line that mentions dhcp and add the static stuff you need: auto eth0 # for dhcp #iface eth0 inet dhcp # fixed network settings iface eth0 inet static address 192.168.1.50 netmask 255.255.255.0 gateway 192.168.1.1 c) Edit /etc/resolve.conf to look like this search .com # optional nameserver nameserver d) Run the command '# ifdown eth0; ifup eth0' (or just restart) Now just set up the ports you want in Advanced > Forwarding. HTH, Paul -- Paul Mackinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Qmail (was Mailman problems)
Derrick 'dman' Hudson declaimed: > On Sun, Jan 26, 2003 at 09:03:58AM -0900, Andy wrote: snip... > Personally I am opposed to qmail, mainly for reasons outlined here : > http://www-dt.e-technik.uni-dortmund.de/~ma/qmail-bugs.html > http://cr.yp.to/qmail/dist.html > however if you want to use it that is your choice^Wproblem <0.5 wink>. > The second link gives the reason there is no debian package for qmail > (only a source package). > > -D Heh. Entertaining reading. I'm not competent to comment on the author's tests or comments. They appear rational, although well-seasoned with resentment. It's always sad to hear about developers that dodge sincere critiques. It's one thing to say "Yes, those bugs sure are ugly but we just don't feel the effort of fixing them is worth it right now." and another to say "What bugs? I don't see any bugs" while scratching uncontrollably. Having worked QA for a commercial software developer, I have a lot of sympathy for the former stance: You can't fix everything you'd like to and you're not in a position to be truly objective. And it's irritating to have people confront you with problems that you've decided (perhaps painfully) not to fix. On the other hand, the latter stance is untenable. For my home system I have to admit that I stick to Exim because a) it's been problem free, and b) path of least resistance. And oh yes, let me mention that quite a few of my scripts, settings, and other fixes have been provided by or suggested by Dman since I migrated to Debian and joined this list. Thanks! Paul -- Paul Mackinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bash terminal beep - how to shut it up?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] declaimed: > Hi, >I'm running Debian 3.0r1 on my laptop. Whenever I'm working in a bash > terminal or the console certain actions cause the terminal to BEEP through > the PC Speaker. This is annoying the hell out of my missus when she's > trying to watch TV and I've just scrolled a man page too far! What is the > invocation to shut it up? Which of my .bash files should I put it in? > > Come to think of it, how can I shut this up system-wide? > > Thanks for your help, > Kevin > Also, 'xset -b' does the trick. A truly saavy user will refrain from silencing the beep, preferring to set its volume, pitch, and duration to a pleasant and harmonious tone that reminds them how much they enjoy running Debian GNU/Linux. $ xset b My system is set to 75 75 75 for a quiet, low tone. HTH, PM -- Paul Mackinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: editing a text file in a tar.gz file without decompressing
> * Calber Chainy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-02-08 12:54]: > >Mmmm, I cannot find [Jedit] in my sources, is it a command line program? > > No, it's an editor written in Java. I don't know whether there is a > debian package available. > > > Thorsten Well I was _going_ to say that you have to download this thingy.bin installer from http://www.jedit.org, and make it executable and run it and you can't tell what it does except the program gets installed to /usr/share. But then I looked on source forge and saw that there's a .deb for it. Now I get to reinstall and pray that somehow it likes my 1.4.1 Java installation that dpkg is entirely ignorant of... I've been learning emacs (gone to far to go back to vi at this point) and kind of sneering at all-in-one IDE's, but Jedit is worth a look. Auto-formats nicely, prints nicely (better than emacs, IMO), sophisticated plugin manager (you'll want a fast internet connection to use it) with mature content, and several options for compiling. The one I use is just a console window that runs my regular javac, but preformats the command line for me with all the options that you aren't using now because it would be too tedious to type. Haven't found a workable debugging module yet, but someone will write one soon, this project clearly has a comitted & savvy crew behind it. Enjoy, PM -- Paul Mackinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Build & install a single module for existing custom kernel
Hi, I've been compiling my own kernels for a while thanks to dgpkg, but recently I've purchased a USB mouse, and I don't seem to have a require module (HDI...something or other) to run it on USB. Is there a quick & easy way to build & install the module? My kernel sources have been sitting untouched since I last built and installed a custom kernel. TIA, Paul -- Paul Mackinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
OT: Burned by domain name registrar for $150, suggestions?
My domain name registrar, Names4Ever.com, burned me be invoicing me at a stale email address, failing to contact me by phone or postal service, and canceling my domain name when I didn't renew. Now they tell me that to reinstate it I have to pay $150 that goes to ICANN/Network Solutions in order to remove it from "redemption" status. To add insult to injury, they made me send a check--they wouldn't accept a credit card because too many of their customers have been doing charge-backs on the $150 fee. So I'm out $150 and all of my inbound email is bouncing until my domain name comes back on line. I'm totally PO'd, but as I understand it, my only other option is to wait a month or so until ICANN takes it out of "redemption" status and hope no one else snags my domain name. I can't afford to to this, I'm out of work and may already have lost job offers. My questions are: 1. Do I have any recourse agains Names4Ever, other than writing them nasty letters? They're based in San Diego, CA, also known as APlus.Net. 2. Once my domain is registered again, can it be transfered to a different registrar without a loss of service. Recommendations? I'd like to go with a business that thinks you should make a second attempt to contact someone if an email bounces. Thanks for listening :-) Paul -- Paul Mackinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Still on install
Sidney Brooks declaimed: > I have two problems left. > > 1. I can get two dialers, kppp and ppp, to dial, but > they do not authenticate. The kppp log says: > > The system is required to authenticate itself > but I cannot find any suitable secret (password) for > it to use to do so. > (None of the available passwords would let it use an > IP address). > > I suspect it has something to do with that new secret > protocal in the install process. What do I need to do? > Dunno, but here's a guess: There should be a way to specify your ppp username & password in the same file where you store the phone number. Check the docs. > 2. I can't find cups on any of my seven disks. Isn't > it supposed to be part of the distribution? Does the > package go under a different name from cups? Otherwise > how do I get my printer to work? I tried magicfilter, > but I don't know what filter to use (tried ljet4l). > $ apt-cache search cups The main package name is apparently 'cupsys'. HTH, Paul -- Paul Mackinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Any users of mondoarchive on debian boxes?
Paul E Condon declaimed: > An article in Oct issue of Linux journal got me interested in Mondo > Archive, which is software that builds self-booting restore CDs for > Linux systems. So, I started to try to use it. I found a debian > package in Woody, and did the standard apt-get ... . I had mostly no > problem understanding the man page. But some puzzles lead me to look > at the Mondo web site, and ... > > From reading the Mondo web site, it appears that there are > no documented instances of mondoarchive being used successfully > on a Debian system, and that Debian kernels are somehow non- > standard, and difficult to work with. Is this true? And, if true, > why is there a Debian package of Mondo Archive? > At a BALUG meeting last spring I heard a talk by mondo's inceptor, Hugo Rabson, who took some special time to trash Debian. His beef is with Debian's initrd-enabled kernels which mondo either doesn't handle at all or doesn't handle well. If you have problems, I'd try building & installing a kernel with initrd disabled and see if it helps. > And if not true, who, on this list has experience? Is there a > different Debian list where I should be going for help on this > particular package? > See the Mondo website, http://www.microwerks.net/~hugo They have an active mailing list. Not only do they claim to support Debian 3.0, I just checked out their website and found that the text that used to say something like "Why I hate Debian" has been replaced with a blurb that starts out "I used to badmouth Debian's distro ... However, recent releases are much improved ..." Thanks, Hugo, that really makes me feel all warm and fuzzy. HTH, PM -- Paul Mackinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Still on install
Sidney Brooks declaimed: > I have two problems left. > > 1. I can get two dialers, kppp and ppp, to dial, but > they do not authenticate. The kppp log says: > > The system is required to authenticate itself > but I cannot find any suitable secret (password) for > it to use to do so. > (None of the available passwords would let it use an > IP address). > > I suspect it has something to do with that new secret > protocal in the install process. What do I need to do? > Dunno, but here's a guess: There should be a way to specify your ppp username & password in the same file where you store the phone number. Check the docs. > 2. I can't find cups on any of my seven disks. Isn't > it supposed to be part of the distribution? Does the > package go under a different name from cups? Otherwise > how do I get my printer to work? I tried magicfilter, > but I don't know what filter to use (tried ljet4l). > $ apt-cache search cups The main package name is apparently 'cupsys'. HTH, Paul -- Paul Mackinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Any users of mondoarchive on debian boxes?
Paul E Condon declaimed: > An article in Oct issue of Linux journal got me interested in Mondo > Archive, which is software that builds self-booting restore CDs for > Linux systems. So, I started to try to use it. I found a debian > package in Woody, and did the standard apt-get ... . I had mostly no > problem understanding the man page. But some puzzles lead me to look > at the Mondo web site, and ... > > From reading the Mondo web site, it appears that there are > no documented instances of mondoarchive being used successfully > on a Debian system, and that Debian kernels are somehow non- > standard, and difficult to work with. Is this true? And, if true, > why is there a Debian package of Mondo Archive? > At a BALUG meeting last spring I heard a talk by mondo's inceptor, Hugo Rabson, who took some special time to trash Debian. His beef is with Debian's initrd-enabled kernels which mondo either doesn't handle at all or doesn't handle well. If you have problems, I'd try building & installing a kernel with initrd disabled and see if it helps. > And if not true, who, on this list has experience? Is there a > different Debian list where I should be going for help on this > particular package? > See the Mondo website, http://www.microwerks.net/~hugo They have an active mailing list. Not only do they claim to support Debian 3.0, I just checked out their website and found that the text that used to say something like "Why I hate Debian" has been replaced with a blurb that starts out "I used to badmouth Debian's distro ... However, recent releases are much improved ..." Thanks, Hugo, that really makes me feel all warm and fuzzy. HTH, PM -- Paul Mackinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to have Exim send to another Exim server before bouncing?
Ian Melnick declaimed: > Hello all, > > I'm trying to get mailman working right. We have separate machines for > web and email, and in order to use mailman's web management tools, it > needs to be installed on the web server. Don't have the option of > putting a webserver on the email machine - long story. Anyway, all email > sent to the domain is put to the email machine, except the email machine > bounces mail sent to any mailing list because mailman isn't set up on > that machine! > > I do have exim configured to work properly with mailman on the web > server, according to the directions on exim.org. > > How can I configure exim on the email machine to try forwarding any mail > that the transporters couldn't deliver locally to the machine with > mailman installed? This isn't what you want to do. If you did, all email sent from your domain to other domains would go to/through the web server. >I'm assuming if mail bounced once it reached the > mailman machine/web server, it'd bounce back to the email machine and > bounce again back to the original person who sent it, right? If it doesn't reach an account that accepts it, it bounces. > What do I put in the transport config section to have the regular email > machine try forwarding to the other machine before giving up? It doesn't work that way. Mail is either forwarded or not. You can route based on the message headers, body, etc., but not on on whether the first delivery attempt succeeds. The solution is to create a dns entry for the web server called 'lists', so that all of your mailman lists have addresses like [EMAIL PROTECTED] Now your main email server is entirely out of the loop for all mailman traffic. The only exim configuration work (other than the mailman modifications) is to make sure that the list server accepts mail addressed to 'lists.yourdomain.com' as local mail. This should be easy, done right at the top of the exim.conf file with a declaration like local_domains = localhost:lists HTH, Paul -- Paul Mackinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: vim: available colors?
Monique Y. Herman declaimed: > I'm mucking with syntax highlighting in vim (specifically, I like dark > backgrounds, but the red (for strings) and the blue (for comments) are > almost impossible for me to read). > > How do I know which color names are available for a given colordepth? I > assume that using 'set t_Co=16' is going to give me fewer color options > than if I set that to, say, 256 (and would any terminals support 256?). > > Thanks in advance for any advice! Well, aside from adjusting your brightness and contrast ;-) try :help syntax Down at item 16. (in my version) is a bunch of stuff about xterms. Everything in vim seems to be customizable, the eternal question is whether it's worth figuring out how... PM -- Paul Mackinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Spam, exim, .forward vs. procmail
I've been reading the various spam threads, I'm certainly getting my share of hits from the various worms going around. Clearly I can do better can people provide some clear recommendations? Currently I'm using exim, receiving w/fetchmail and sending to smarthost. I've learned how to write and test an exim-compatible .forward file that works fairly well, although I keep having to add more rules as the attributions for the fake MS updates keep changing (really I have to go back to the docs and see if I can filter out any message with a *.exe or *.pif attachment.) So one question is: does procmail really work better or provide more features than .forward? Is it worth investing the time and energy to learn how to write procmail filters? A second question is: I understand that if you install and configure the mailfilter package, that you can use mutt to initiate your pop connections and filter mail at the server. I have broadband, do I really care about this option? I'd always understood that having mutt run your pop connections was basically an option for people running PPP. Finally: I'm poised to start running a 24x7 server for the first time, I'm contemplating making it a true mailserver for incoming and outgoing. I'm sure I'll be learning all about spamassassin, do people have any advice about gotchas, must-have packages, or best books? TIA, PM -- Paul Mackinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Spam, exim, .forward vs. procmail
Clive Menzies declaimed: < quoted post snipped > > I'm just starting out on this road coming from getmail, exim, mutt to > mailfilter, fetchmail, procmail, spamassassin, exim, mutt. > It's taken some time but I've now got preconnect "mailfilter" in my > fetchmailrc with the following: > > DENY=^From:.*Microsoft > \(Network\|Security\|Corporation\|Security\|Message\|Internet\|Customer\|Support\)* > DENY=^From:.*MS > \(Network\|Security\|Corporation\|Security\|Internet\|Customer\|Support\)* > DENY=^From:.*Customer Bulletin > DENY=^From:.*Internet \(Email\|Service\|System\)* > DENY=^From:.*Security Department > DENY=^From:.*Email \(Delivery\|Service\)* > DENY=^From:.*CyberAtlas > > DENY=^To:.*net recipient > DENY=^To:.*Inet \(Client\|Recipient\)* > DENY=^To:.*Network \(Recipient\|Receiver\)* > DENY=^To:.*Mail \(Recipient\|Receiver\)* > DENY=^To:.*Commercial \(Client\|Consumer\)* > Thanks! I'll review the fetchmail/mailfilter docs & give this a whirl. Nice that you don't have to double & quadruple all the escapes as in .forward. > Although I can call fetchmail from mutt I run it through crontab every > 5 minutes. I used to do that, but have switched to running fetchmail in daemon mode, launched with a reboot argument in my crontab: First 2 lines of .fetchmailrc, 879 is the repeat interval in millisecs: set daemon 879 poll mail.isp.com proto pop3 user "ispName" is "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" $ crontab -l SHELL=/bin/sh # m h dom mon dow command @reboot/usr/bin/fetchmail -f /home/et/.fetchmailrc -- Paul Mackinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: RH to Debian conversion help
Derrick 'dman' Hudson declaimed: > | 2. hwconf - shows what hardware is in place > > I don't think there is an equivalent. What functionality do you need > out of this? The 'lspci' command will list the PCI devices. Other > hardware info, as seen by the kernel, can be found in /proc. There > are probably other sources of information, depending on what you are > looking for. > Debian certainly doesn't have anything like RH's kudzu (one of the more impressive featres of RH, IMO). The 'modconf' command run as root allows you to dynamically enable/disable kernel modules, and 'dmesg' will print all the startup messages, which typically show lots of device info. -- Paul Mackinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Old address
[EMAIL PROTECTED] declaimed: > We were AOL subscribers in the past. Our address was > [EMAIL PROTECTED] We thought this address had been canceled when we > canceled our subscription in 2001. When we rejoined last month, we > found that that address was "taken." Could you please be sure that no > other person is using our old address or has access to any credit > information. 1. This isn't really that funny, my ISP charges its monthly fees directly from my credit card, so they certainly have some credit info. 2. My credit info won't be worth stealing until I get the checks from all those Nigerian politicians--oops! That was supposed to be a secret. 3. I hope this isn't a new version of Swen... -- Paul Mackinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: RH to Debian conversion help
Paul Mackinney lied: > Debian certainly doesn't have anything like RH's kudzu Well that was a rather sloppy reply, wasn't it? Steeped in humiliation, PM -- Paul Mackinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Any users of mondoarchive on debian boxes?
Vineet Kumar declaimed: > * Pigeon ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [030928 16:00]: > > On Sun, Sep 28, 2003 at 08:27:27AM -0700, Paul Mackinney wrote: > > > At a BALUG meeting last spring I heard a talk by mondo's inceptor, Hugo > > > Rabson, who took some special time to trash Debian. His beef is with > > > Debian's initrd-enabled kernels which mondo either doesn't handle at all > > > or doesn't handle well. > > > > "I can't write software to cope with this feature of the Linux kernel > > and therefore this distro that uses it is crap"? Please tell me it > > ain't so... > > no, it wasn't as simple as that. Hugo was trying to write portable > software, which is always a frustrating challenge. He did offer to > enumerate a list of reasons why he didn't like Debian. I don't remember > exactly what he said, but I remember thinking his reasons were valid at > the time. It's just his opinion after all, which, by accounts on the > current version of the site, has since favorably changed. Even then, > Hugo didn't want to exclude Debian; he had just had difficulty working > with it, and was fortunate to have Hector take care of the Debian stuff > for him. > Vineet, thanks for the more even-handed account. My post was probably a bit harsh--I wrote the first section (quoted above) before visiting the mondo website again and seeing the improved situation. PM -- Paul Mackinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: exim/fetchmail config
Jeff Elkins declaimed: > I've recently switched to a system where fetchmail picks up all my pop3 email > and routes it to a local address, wherespamassassin analyzes it. Thus far, > it's been working great, except for one caveat... > > Certain family members are Windows/Outlook Express users and when they attempt > to reply to an email it's routed to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] > rather than jeffelkins(at)earthlink.net or jeff(at)elkins.org > > I'm stumped. Is this a problem with my exim/fetchmail config or is it a OE > problem? How can I overcome this? > On a hunch, I wonder if you've customized /etc/email-addresses. Exim uses it to set the default return address for your Linux account. I use the mutt email reader. Normally it uses the return address that I specify. But if it doesn't get set for some reason (experimental mbox-hooks in .muttrc) then it uses the default. You can get a lot of info by bcc:ing yourself on a message and reviewing the headers. HTH, PM -- Paul Mackinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
man/mandb errors
At the last update of the man package, I elected to install the new version of /etc/manpath config. The only customization I'd made was to add the man pages for my java installation, and I was OK with losing it. But now every time I run man, I get the following errors: mandb: can't chmod /usr/java/j2sdk1.4.1_02/man/index.db: \ Operation not permitted mandb: can't remove /usr/java/j2sdk1.4.1_02/man/index.db: \ Permission denied mandb: warning: can't update index cache \ /usr/java/j2sdk1.4.1_02/man/index.db: Permission denied mandb: No databases created. This is sort of understandable because the manpath command still shows the java man directory $ manpath /usr/java/j2sdk1.4.1_02/man:/usr/local/man:/usr/share/man:/usr/X11R6/man But I don't understand why since manpath.config doesn't list it and my MANPATH variable is not set. I've run mandb (without errors) and read most of the man-related docs, but I don't understand what's going on. How can I get manpath to drop the java man directory? TIA, PM -- Paul Mackinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mutt header display question
I've been trying to write a mailfilter rule, nothing worked. Finally I noticed that while mutt displays the From header as AmikaGuardian Server <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> This showed the same whether with the full headers toggled on or off. Just a minute ago, when I just catted a sample msg file in the shell it showed as AmikaGuardian (TM) Server <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> So now I understand why my filter wasn't working. Can someone explain to me why mutt's display omitted the parenthesized bit? TIA, PM -- Paul Mackinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
xdm config help
I'm trying to set up xdm. Whenever I boot the last message I see before the login prompt is: Not starting X Display Manager (xdm); it is not the default display manager. I get the same message when I try to launch it manually as root. I'm been cruising the docs & all the likely files, but don't see how to set this. I looked in /etc/alternatives, nothing named 'display manager'. I looked at the conf files in /etc/X11, but there's nothing glaringly wrong. There is a file named "default-display-manager' in /etc/X11, and it's contents are '/usr/bin/xdm'. Any tips on this issue? Last step was to apt-get update to version 4.2.1. Thanks, PM -- Paul Mackinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: xdm config help
Karl E. Jorgensen declaimed: > On Fri, Oct 18, 2002 at 11:10:39PM -0700, Paul Mackinney wrote: > > I'm trying to set up xdm. Whenever I boot the last message I see before > > the login prompt is: > > > > Not starting X Display Manager (xdm); it is not the default display manager. > I run xdm, and for me it says: > > /usr/bin/X11/xdm > Yep that was it. I feel silly. Even worse, all the info you'd ever need to figure this out is right at the top of the /etc/init.d/xdm script. Still, I did do the following: - read the man pages, no mention of "default display manager" in any context. - reinstall (apt-get install --reinstall) - remove and then intstall (apt-get remove --purge, apt-get install) (the xdm package & scripts don't touch or verify the default-display-manager file) It doesn't feel right that reinstallation doesn't detect or fix the issue. IMO, the best solution would be to modify the /etc/init.d/xdm script. Even if it's set to respect the default-display-manager file, it could check that the current default display manager exists before deciding not to launch. Current 'start' block is: case "$1" in start) if [ -e $DEFAULT_DISPLAY_MANAGER_FILE ] && \ [ "$HEED_DEFAULT_DISPLAY_MANAGER" = "true" ] && \ [ "$(cat $DEFAULT_DISPLAY_MANAGER_FILE)" != "$DAEMON" ]; then echo "Not starting X display manager (xdm); it is not the default display manager." else echo -n "Starting X display manager: xdm" start-stop-daemon --start --quiet $SSD_ARGS || echo -n " already running" echo "." fi ;; It would be easy to add the test [ "$(which $(cat $DEFAULT_DISPLAY_MANAGER_FILE))" = \ "$(cat $DEFAULT_DISPLAY_MANAGER_FILE)" ] If the test fails, display a warning message echo "The default display manager, $(cat \ $DEFAULT_DISPLAY_MANAGER_FILE), doesn't appear to be present. \ Please enter the desired path (e.g., $DAEMON) in \ $DEFAULT_DISPLAY_MANAGER_FILE." and run xdm anyway. Shall I log this as a bug? PM -- Paul Mackinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: xdm config help
Karl E. Jorgensen declaimed: > On Mon, Oct 21, 2002 at 03:20:11PM +0100, Karl E. Jorgensen wrote: > There might well be a bug in there somewhere, for the life of me I > cannot see what package owns /etc/X11/default-display-manager - it does > not seem to be managed by [dpkg]. > ... > There seem to be debconf bits for it in both gdm and xdm though. > That bit of code is present in in /etc/init.d/gdm too - and I would not > be surprised to find it in other display managers. > > My personal preference would be to invent the package: > x-display-manager-admin-utils > > and stick the code in here, and let [a-z]dm Depend: on > x-display-manager-admin-utils. > > Perhaps somebody can do that? I'll be applying to becoming a Debian > Maintainer (again) soon, and it looks like a relatively easy > project. On > the downside, it requires a fair bit of coordination with the > maintainers of [a-z]dm. > I have to say that adding a new package doesn't strike me as the best solution--surely Debian has enough packages already? What if we found out what package(s) create the thing and include the file in the package rather than having a script create it? From the following dpkg man entry: dpkg -L | --listfiles package ... List files installed to your system from package. However, note that files created by package-specific installation-scripts are not listed. I deduce that the file is created by an installation-script. Where's the utility to parse the scripts & list the files they create? [a joke, surely there are so many ways to create files with bash, perl, etc. that this isn't really possible...] But I don't mean to pick nits, if you're willing to work as a package maintainer and a new package is the right thing, then you have my thanks and support. That 'coordination with the maintainers' you speak of is surely one of the toughest parts of the job. Regards, Paul -- Paul Mackinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Segmentation faults in apropos
I've been running Sid, for some time, lately I've started getting segmentaion faults when I run apropos, as in the following: $ apropos hyphenation Segmentation fault $ When I run with the debug flag, I get a bunch of normal-looking messages about paths, ending with adding mandatory man directories adding /usr/man to manpath /usr/share/man is already in the manpath /usr/X11R6/man is already in the manpath /usr/local/man is already in the manpath add_nls_manpath(): processing /usr/local/man:/usr/share/man:/usr/X11R6/man:/usr/man adding /usr/local/man to manpathlist adding /usr/share/man to manpathlist adding /usr/X11R6/man to manpathlist adding /usr/man to manpathlist lower(hyphenation) = "hyphenation" path=/usr/local/man path=/usr/share/man free_hashtab: 11 entries, 11 (100%) unique Segmentation fault $ Any ideas on this? Thanks, PM -- Paul Mackinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Segmentation faults in apropos
Colin Watson declaimed: > On Tue, Oct 29, 2002 at 04:35:15PM -0800, Paul Mackinney wrote: > > I've been running Sid, for some time, lately I've started getting > > segmentaion faults when I run apropos, as in the following: > > > > $ apropos hyphenation > > Segmentation fault > > $ > > This has so far been reported as a bug six times, and is a bug in glibc > 2.3.1's regexec() implementation. See <http://bugs.debian.org/165603>. > > Cheers, > > -- > Colin Watson (man-db maintainer) [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Thanks, Colin. I did look in the bug tracker before posting, the search mechanism came up empty on open bugs with 'apropos'... PM -- Paul Mackinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Fixed libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2 package
Matthias Klose declaimed: > The libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2_2.95.4-14 package contains a broken > libstdc++ library. To work around the problem, provide the missing > library by a smbolic link. Execute as root: > > ln -sf libstdc++-3libc6.2-2-2.10.0.so /usr/lib/libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3 > > A fixed package can be found at: > > http://incoming.debian.org/libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2_2.95.4-15_i386.deb Thanks for posting this! It kept my down-time < 5 minutes. The moral: when something big goes wrong after an apt-get upgrade, try again, then try deb-user. Regards, PM -- Paul Mackinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Fixed libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2 package
Craig Dickson declaimed: > It's unfortunate that this happened, but this is unstable, and > developers aren't perfect. I'm actually less disturbed that this > happened than that so many people have posted desperate "please help" > messages about it, That was sort of my point. I looked for a message on the topic before posting myself or filing a bug report and the answer was right there. > I mean, seriously, let's look at the process in detail... This was very helpful, thank you. > Or you could try to just back out of the > problem like this: > > # dpkg -i --force-downgrade >/var/cache/apt/archives/libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2_1%3a2.95.4-12_i386.deb In general I knew that this was an option, but of course 'man dpkg' was one of the commands that failed... > why run unstable, which is _intended_ as a > place for leading-edge testing -- "catch it here before it breaks > something really important" -- if you aren't able to deal with the > problems that sooner or later _will_ arise? Like many other people, I started running unstable because Potato was hopelessly out of date and Woody felt very stale. I've stuck with it since the Woody release because I don't feel much like downgrading my system. But I also believe that running unstable means that I've agreed to ride out the bumps without squawking. Thanks for your post, I appreciated reading your point of view and gaining the benefit of your troubleshooting process, not to mention reading everyone else's reactions to your ideas. Regards, PM -- Paul Mackinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Help with login/environment: bash_profile, bashrc, xdm
Hi. I use the blackbox window manager, but I'm having trouble with my default environment. I was using gdm and all was fine, except that - My customizations to the login window kept getting bonked. - If you ctrl-alt-f1 to get a non-X terminal, it keeps coming back every n seconds without being asked. Especially annoying if your X configuration is bad... I'm just not a GNOME fan. So I switched to xdm - and my .bash_profile stopped getting processed. So that after opening an xterm, none of my custom environment variables were active, just the custom aliases in .bashrc. - I tried putting 'source ./.bash_profile' at the top of my xsession file, but no luck. Can someone tell me, or point me to the right docs, to get xdm to run .bash_profile so that all term windows inherit the environment? And a more philosophical question: Anyone care to provide a 50 word essay on the proper use of .bash_profile and .bashrc? I have an environment that generally works, but it's based on random examples, trial, and error rather than consistent application of fundamental principles. TIA, Paul -- Paul Mackinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Help with login/environment: bash_profile, bashrc, xdm
Matthew Weier O'Phinney declaimed: > > I was using gdm and all was fine, except that > > So I switched to xdm > Just a question... do you really need to use a session manager? > > I've been using blackbox for a year now, and I do fine without a session > manager (I did fine without one before, too). The 'startx' command gets > you into X when you need it (which, granted is most of the time for me), > and also means that your environment is preserved when you enter X. Any > items I specifically want in all term environments I throw into my > .bashrc (aliases, some environmental variables, etc). Any programs I > want to run on initialization of X I throw into .xinitrc. > > -- > Matthew Weier O'Phinney > [EMAIL PROTECTED] A very good point, I've also mostly used startx but with .xsession instead of .xinitrc--my understanding is that startx will use whichever one it finds. Is there any difference that you know of? Regarding 'why?', I can only say that I was seduced by the dark side of GUI--for about two weeks gdm showed a picture of my daughter on the background, and my cute 'Rat Hed Linux' logo in the login window. Then it ceased to display the PNG's without reporting any errors, even after being reconfigured. Since xdm was installed, I thought I could just switch to it but then I found that it wasn't processing .bash_profile. I'll check out the website referenced in the previous reply and see what I can figure out. Thanks, Paul -- Paul Mackinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mail basics on a debian system
Robert Land declaimed: > I'm not very experienced with unix/linux and would > appreciate some information on the mail topic. > > I have this one box system, using my general account > 'rland' and sometimes root for system configuration. > > What I would like to know is if/how rland recieves mail > actually ment for root, because I rarely do a root shell > login. I couldn't find anything in the mail man page and > /etc/mail.rc has nothing looking like "root:rland", only > /etc/aliases created by eximconfig has these entries > which to my understanding forwards all mail to postmaster > and root to me which is 'rland'. > > What I'm realy unsure about is if _all_ mail, even the one > sent by the lowlevel 'mail' program goes through port 25. > If yes, then exim should do all the work and all program/system > messages sent to root should reach me with the help of exims > /etc/aliases file. Is this correct and how can I generate > a system failure which would cause a root mail to test > this. Here's a test routine: 1. Log in as rland. 2. $ mail root -s "mail to root"
Help with DRM / DRI on Matrox G400
I've got a Matrox Millenium G400, and recently installed a DVDROM drive. Unfortunately, Xine drops too many frames to really watch anything (mpeg & avi files play fine). I've been trying to tweak my video performance, and notice the following errors in my X log: (==) MGA(1): Write-combining range (0xe600,0x100) (II) MGA(1): vgaHWGetIOBase: hwp->IOBase is 0x03d0, hwp->PIOOffset is 0x (--) MGA(1): 16 DWORD fifo (==) MGA(1): Default visual is TrueColor (II) MGA(1): [drm] bpp: 32 depth: 24 (II) MGA(1): [drm] Sarea 2200+664: 2864 drmOpenDevice: minor is 0 drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0 drmOpenDevice: open result is -1, (No such device) drmOpenDevice: Open failed drmOpenDevice: minor is 0 drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0 drmOpenDevice: open result is -1, (No such device) drmOpenDevice: Open failed [drm] failed to load kernel module "mga" (II) MGA(1): [drm] drmOpen failed (EE) MGA(1): [drm] DRIScreenInit failed. Disabling DRI. Can anyone shed light on this? I'm not running devfs, don't know if '/dev/dri/card0' is really supposed to be there or how it would get installed. I'm running Sarge, update regularly. Any advice appreciated. Regards, PM -- Paul Mackinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How do I 'tar' a huge file?
Travis Crump declaimed: > Roberto Sanchez wrote: > > >This actually worked in that I was able to store the whole file into > >seperate archives. But, when I tried to untar, it failed on the first > >file, saying it encountered an unexpected EOF. > > > >Am I missing something here? or can this simply not be done? > > > >-Roberto Sanchez > > > > Did you pass the same -L option to tar for the untar as you did > for the tar? > I think the --multi-volume option will do the trick; it worked for me when backing up to a tape library. I also got the 'unexpected EOF' on the first restore attempt, then tried again specifying --multi-volume on restore. Run info tar and look up 'mult...' in the index. You can definitely do this, I'd experiment with a small data set so you can test backup & restore quickly. HTH, PM -- Paul Mackinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Java plugin help? (was: Mozilla 1.3 for Woody?)
Mark L. Kahnt declaimed: > On Thu, 2003-03-27 at 09:45, Michael Bona wrote: > > Mark L. Kahnt wrote: > > > > > On Tue, 2003-03-25 at 12:57, Michael Bona wrote: > > >> Hi, > > >> > > >> does anyone know a source for Mozilla Version 1.3 for Woody? Apt-get.org > > >> does not seem to list any and I am really looking forward to the new > > >> functionality. > Nah - I've been running both the Debian maintained and the Mozilla.org > versions since the mid-Milestone days, against the same .mozilla, and > have seen no hiccups, although I don't use it for email, but by 1.3, it > should be generally okay there. > > As to plugins, that is something that does need to be re-installed. Copy > your /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins files to /opt/mozilla/plugins (except for > the javaplugin.so - that needs to be a symbolic link instead) and start > up /opt/mozilla/mozilla, and all should be fine. I don't use Mozilla for email, just browsing. This is my strategy too. I can run /usr/bin/mozilla(1.0) or /usr/local/bin/mozilla(1.3) just fine. _but_ I cannot get the java plugin to work. I'm running Sun's Java package and Mozilla 1.3 talkback from Mozilla.org. I've symlinked /usr/local/mozilla/plugin/libjavaplugin_oji.so -> /usr/java/j2sdk1.4.1_02/jre/plugin/i386/ns610/libjavaplugin_oji.so The info at plugindoc.mozdev.org says these should work together (both compiled with gcc-2.95xxx). When I compile a trivial applet (straight from Bruce Eckel's Thinking In Java) that works fine with Appletviewer, Mozilla gives me an error saying that the plugin for "application/x-java-applet;version=1.4.1" needs to be installed, Mozilla's about:plugins window lists it and shows it as being Enabled. (And yes, Edit>Advanced>Enable Java is checked.) Any advice appreciated. PM -- Paul Mackinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Help with DRM / DRI on Matrox G400
Mark Zimmerman declaimed: > On Sun, Mar 30, 2003 at 12:08:56PM -0800, Slava ZHdanobvich wrote: > > On Fri, 28 Mar 2003 19:23:03 -0800 > > Paul Mackinney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > I've got a Matrox Millenium G400, and recently installed a DVDROM drive. > > > Unfortunately, Xine drops too many frames to really watch anything > > > (mpeg & avi files play fine). > > > > > > I've been trying to tweak my video performance, and notice the following > > > errors in my X log: > ...snip... > > > [drm] failed to load kernel module "mga" > > > (II) MGA(1): [drm] drmOpen failed > > > (EE) MGA(1): [drm] DRIScreenInit failed. Disabling DRI. > > > > > It looks like you do not have the necessary kernel module(s). You need > these: > > CONFIG_AGP=m > CONFIG_DRM_NEW=y > CONFIG_DRM_MGA=m > > If you use xconfig, they are near the bottom of 'Character devices' > > -- Mark > Good thought, but I'm running the stock kernel package for k6, the config file shows these enabled. I'm wondering about the lines from the XFree.0.log that read: drmOpenDevice: minor is 0 drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0 drmOpenDevice: open result is -1, (No such device) drmOpenDevice: Open failed drmOpenDevice: minor is 0 drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0 drmOpenDevice: open result is -1, (No such device) drmOpenDevice: Open failed [drm] failed to load kernel module "mga" I don't have a device /dev/dri/card0. Am I supposed to be running devfs? Kernel config shows $ grep DEVFS config-2.4.20-k6 CONFIG_DEVFS_FS=y # CONFIG_DEVFS_MOUNT is not set # CONFIG_DEVFS_DEBUG is not set TIA, PM PS: I tried some of the other suggestions for XF86Config, but no luck. -- Paul Mackinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Help with DRM / DRI on Matrox G400
[EMAIL PROTECTED] declaimed: > >>>>> "Paul" == Paul Mackinney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Paul> I don't have a device /dev/dri/card0. Am I supposed to be > Paul> running devfs? Kernel config shows > > Paul> $ grep DEVFS config-2.4.20-k6 CONFIG_DEVFS_FS=y # > Paul> CONFIG_DEVFS_MOUNT is not set # CONFIG_DEVFS_DEBUG is not set > > You need that card device: > > ~ $ ls -ld /dev/dri > drwxr-xr-x2 root root 4096 Jan 22 14:10 /dev/dri > ~ $ ls -l /dev/dri > total 0 > crw-rw-rw-1 root video226, 0 Jan 22 14:10 card0 > > Sorry but I didn't see the start of the thread. Another thing you will > also need is agp support (agpgart). > > be sure and load the agpgart module _before_ starting X. > > Brian Loading agppart was the key, I added it with modconf before starting X, the device node was created somehow, and DRI is loading fine. Still not enough to allow this tired old K6-III/450 to play DVDs, though :-( Thanks for everyone's help Paul -- Paul Mackinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Java plugin help?
daniel huhardeaux declaimed: > Paul Mackinney wrote: > >I'm running Sun's Java package and Mozilla 1.3 talkback from Mozilla.org. > >I've symlinked > > > >/usr/local/mozilla/plugin/libjavaplugin_oji.so -> > >/usr/java/j2sdk1.4.1_02/jre/plugin/i386/ns610/libjavaplugin_oji.so > > > >The info at plugindoc.mozdev.org says these should work together (both > >compiled with gcc-2.95xxx). > > > >When I compile a trivial applet (straight from Bruce Eckel's Thinking In > >Java) that works fine with Appletviewer, Mozilla gives me an error > >saying that the plugin for "application/x-java-applet;version=1.4.1" > >needs to be installed, Mozilla's about:plugins window lists it and shows > >it as being Enabled. (And yes, Edit>Advanced>Enable Java is checked.) > > > > > You have to use a java compiled with gcc 3.2. Sun's one is not ok. > Blackdown has one. Check the list archive, a link was given one or two > weeks ago where to download it. My understanding is that the compatablilty table is: MozillaJava Compiler Debian-package(unstable?) Blackdown gcc-3.2 Mozilla.orgSungcc-2.95 I am running Sarge (Testing). I've tried two versions of Mozilla and two versions of Java. Both load the Sun plugin but not the Blackdown plugin (e.g., for the Blackdown plugin nothing shows in about:plugins in Mozilla). To install a plugin, I'm symlinking the plugin file into Mozilla's plugin dir. apt-get install Mozilla version: 1.0 bin: /usr/bin/mozilla plugindir: /usr/lib/mozilla Mozilla.org Talkback build, installed via installer version: 1.3 bin: /usr/local/mozilla/mozilla plugindir: /usr/local/mozilla/plugin Blackdown source: j2sdk-1.4.1-01-linux-i586-gcc3.2.bin Plugin: /usr/java/j2sdk1.4.1/jre/plugin/mozilla/javaplugin_oji.so Result: doesn't load (e.g., doesn't appear in Mozilla about:plugins) Sun source: j2sdk-1.4.1_02 (don't have the binary any more) Plugin: /usr/java/j2sdk1.4.1_02/jre/plugin/i386/ns610/javaplugin_oji.so Result: loads (e.g., lots of listings in Mozilla about:plugins) In both versions of Mozilla, viewing a simple applet (tests fine in appletviewer) with the Sun plugin installed, displays a puzzle-piece icon, clicking the icon yields the error saying that "application/x-java-applet;version=1.4.1" isn't installed, although this precise listing shows in about:plugins. PM -- Paul Mackinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Play DVDs on K6/4xx (was: Help with DRM / DRI on Matrox G400)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] declaimed: > Hmm...I've got a DH G400 on my AMD K6-II/450, and DVDs play fine for me. > Actually play better under Linux than under Windows. Although the DVD apps > under Linux I have tend to be more glitchy. But the system w/ video card if > quite adequate. > > --- > Arlen Carlson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Very encouraging. What can I tweak? CPU: K6-III/450 MB: ASUS P5A RAM: 512 MB PC100/133 (2 x 256 MB DIMM) Kernel: kernel-package-2.4.20-k6 Debian/GNU Linux: Sarge DVD player: 16x generic Video card 1: Matrox G400 dual head, 16 MB, AGP, 1 display Video card 2: ATI Rage XL, 8 MB, PCI, 1 display (I added the 2nd card so that the G400 would have 16 MB available for its display.) The Matrox is now loading DRI, I'm not aware of any issues. When I play DVDs on Xine (installed from Sarge), the sound is OK but the video stalls & stops, many freezes, unwatchable. When I play DVDs with MPlayer (compiled with gcc-3.2 on my box), it quickly displays an error telling me that my system is too slow, then about 60 seconds it returns an error saying that there are too many video frames in the buffer and the sound cuts out. Picture is great although I suspect that its playing the video too slowly. Any advice appreciated. Paul -- Paul Mackinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: disable one users email?
Talon declaimed: > Hi, > > I would like to disable email for one particular account. > How is this done? (Running woody and exim) > > I believe I can stop an account from receiving email > by creating a sym link: > > # ln -s /dev/null /var/mail/username This will (depending on how your system is configured) stop local mail to their account, and prevent exim from forwarding mail to them. > > but how would I disable them from sending mail? > You'll have to read the exim.conf documentation to find out how to customize the TRANSPORTS CONFIGURATION section and customize the local_delivery transport. Note that these methods will only stop them from sending & receiving mail using the account on that particular box, if they have internet access they have any number ways to send & receive email using other accounts unless you throttle their access back so much that they might as well not have an account (IMO). I'd be glad to hear from more experienced sysadmins on this, and I'm curious as to what's the problem with a normal user having mail access. HTH, Paul -- Paul Mackinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Dmesg & Fdisk see only 30 out of 60 MB--SOLVED
David Raeker-Jordan declaimed: > David Raeker-Jordan wrote: > > > > I recently installed a new Samsung 60 MB HD into a 1998 "vintage" Celeron > > machine as /dev/hdb. The BIOS reports the drive as 30 MB. > > > > I thought that Debian would see the whole drive, but dmesg and fdisk only > > report about 30 or 32 GB. > > > > I then booted Knoppix, and it sees the whole 60 MB. Here is what fdisk on > > Knoppix reports: > > > > What have I done wrong? > > > > Then Christoph Walther came to rescue with the following idea: > > Here's an idea that worked for me. > > Keep the harddisk jumpered to use the _full_ capacity, e.g. 60GB, use a My BIOS hangs at boot unless I use the "compatability" jumper that throttles my new Maxtor 120 GB drive down to 33 GB :-( (Award BIOS on ASUS P5A motherboard) > 2.4.20-Kernel, and make sure the CONFIG_IDEDISK_STROKE kernel parameter is > set to yes. Do you know the display title of this option in xconfig (meta-question: is there a doc that maps the xconfig sections & display titles to the config file options? I'm having trouble finding docs on xconfig, doesn't seem to be covered in the 'make' documentation). This isn't set in my 2.4.20 kernel-pkg kernel, I'll certainly add it. > > (You can check the setting with "grep CONFIG_IDEDISK_STROKE > /boot/config-insert_version_here") > > .config > > # > # IDE, ATA and ATAPI Block devices > # > CONFIG_IDEDISK_STROKE=y > > edited by make menuconfig. > > That means, to activate in the kernel the resize-function for big > IDE-Harddisks. > Compile the Kernel and restart your system. > Forget screwdrivers, BIOS-Updates, ATA100-Cards or a new Motherboards Well, the cost of a new motherboard with built-in support for 133 ide bus speed is just than $20 more than the cost of an enhanced IDE controller, but still it's great to learn about a new kernel flag. (admittedly I lucked out to find a motherboard that will take my current DIMMs, and for which I have a compatible unused CPU lying around) > and , at last, avoid the fit of rage > That's the easiest and the most intelligent way to get the > full harddisk-capacity! > I tried it successfully on my old (1997) Pentium I, 166MMX-System with > a Western Digital 60GB-Harddisk on Debian 3.0r1 ! > > ___ > > Final Note: I recomplied the kernel and it worked like a charm. Thanks! > > -- > David Raeker-Jordan > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > GnuPG key: 1024D/CD956608 -- Paul Mackinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: Politics of Java
David Z Maze declaimed:
> One of these days
> I'll get around to doing a reasonable-sized project in Haskell,
> though: it has an incredible type system and seems to do the right
> thing around "classes", though this is only so meaningful in a purely
> functional language. Saying "well, I wrote about half of a compiler
> in Haskell" certainly gets interesting reactions from the right sort
> of people... :-)
Heh, me too! (Although likely on a more modest scale) I've just finished
a Programming Languages course where we used Haskell to write a lambda
calculus evaluator. Writing the input expressions as structures (Lambda
"x" (Var "y")) was so irritating that I wrote a parser to field string
input ("/x.y"). It works nicely, although only the interpreter's
built-in limits keep it from blowing up on expressions that expand
infinitely.
For those who've never seen this language, here's the quicksort
algorithm in 2 lines:
qsort([])= []
qsort((a:b)) = qsort([x | x<-b, xa])
Not sure about licensing, but it's small, free, and available for *nix,
MacOS, and Wintel. http://haskell.org
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Re: users and x/gdm
Karsten M. Self declaimed: > on Tue, Dec 31, 2002 at 03:47:08PM -0500, George Georgalis ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > Something seems wrong with the archives at the moment... > > > > > > I just finished walking remote hands through a not so simple x > > configuration. whew. > > > > now a user can 'startx' and use the session, but with gdm the session > > starts then immediately returns to the gdm login. > > > > > I presume there is a permissions problem here... how do I enable users > > with console access (or users in a group) to access (run) the xserver? > > In /etc/X11/Xwrapper.config: > > allowed_users=console > > You should be able to manage this setting with: > > # dpkg-reconfigure xserver-common > > man 5 Xwrapper.config for more information. > > Peace. I had a similar problem with an account on a RH Linux system. The solution was to change the last line of my .xsession file from /usr/bin/blackbox # Works with gdm on my Debian/Sarge system to exec /usr/bin/blackbox # Works with gdm on RH 7/8 The Debian system's /etc/X11/Xwrapper.config file has the line described by Karsten, the RH system doesn't have that file. Note that I don't know _why_ my solution works... HTH, PM -- Paul Mackinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Linux config question: dates don't display year?
OT disclaimer... what controls the standard date abbreviation? On some Linux systems 'ls -l' displays the year, on others it doesn't. 'finger' duplicates the behavior, so it appears to be some heinous system-wide setting. BTW: I've found the --full-time option for ls, but still want to know how to set default behavior. TIA, PM -- Paul Mackinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Linux config question: dates don't display year?
Brian Potkin declaimed: > On Fri, Jan 10, 2003 at 09:34:49AM -0800, Paul Mackinney wrote: > > > OT disclaimer... what controls the standard date abbreviation? On some > > Linux systems 'ls -l' displays the year, on others it doesn't. 'finger' > > duplicates the behavior, so it appears to be some heinous system-wide > > setting. The above is incorrect. 'finger' behaves the same way on both systems, 'ls' does not. > > A search of newsgroups using the keywords "ls -l", "date" and "time" > will provide better explanations than I can give. Adding "six months" > would narrow down the search. Thanks, I really should have done this before posting. I've learned a lot about searching the archives, but didn't find anything appropriate. BTW: Before posting I tried man, info, apropos (currently a seg fault engine due to some pesky bug), looked at my environment variables, and looked in Oreilly's 'Essential System Administration' > > BTW: I've found the --full-time option for ls, but still want to know > > how to set default behavior. > > How about an alias in your .bashrc? Yes, but doesn't address the root cause. I'm stupidly curious. Regards, PM -- Paul Mackinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Kernel panic error on startup
Booting for the first time from recovery disk, I get the following error just after it resets the SCSI bus: aic7xxx: (aic7xxx_isr) Encountered spurious interrupt. scsi0: BRKADRINT error(0x1): Illegal Host Access Kernel panic: scsi0: BRKADRINT, error 0x1, segaddr 0x0. The system is an HP NetServer 486 with some kind of integrated SCSI bus. Its only hard drive is at scsi0. I've tried this with and without partitions defined on the drive (using DOS 6.2 fdisk). Any advice/help would be useful. Thanks, Paul Mackinney -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Kernel panic error on startup
Solved! The problem was a Kernel panic error on startup, just after resetting the SCSI bus. Many thanks to Peter S. Galbraith, Bob McGowan, and Nathan Norman. Norman both identified the problem as "the (in)famous AHA-2740/2840 boot failure". He offered to build me a kernel but said he couldn't do it until Tuesday. Peter directed me to his custom kernel and even compiled a new one for me with SCSI CD-ROM support, which his custom kernel didn't have. This got past the SCSI reset error but found a different error. Bob sent me a kernel that Norman had previously sent him, this worked and got me into Install routine. Thanks everyone, I really appreciate the support. I've run some small UNIX systems before (can you say 3b1?) and can usually avoid deleting critical system files by mistake, but kernel panic errors are over my head. Best Regards, Paul Mackinney -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: boot disk dilemma
Can't help with the install issue, sorry. On a different tack, you might check out the Linux Router Project at http://www.linuxrouter.org/ if you just want a router with IP Masquerading. supposedly you can get all the software you need to run from a locked floppy on system with no hard drive at all. The idea is that even if it gets hacked you can restore the system with a power cycle. I confess I haven't done this, although I _have_ used my Dad's venerable 486/SX as a router with both RedHat and Slackware dists. In my case I used a pair of 3C509s. Much less hassle, BTW, to use a pair of the same cards in your router so that you only need to get one network driver going. Paul Mackinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "MaD dUCK" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "debian users" Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 11:03 AM Subject: boot disk dilemma > so i finally managed to boot off the floppy disks and am now in the > debian installation menu, just short of installing the operating > system. i have a local debian mirror, so i'd like to install via > network (ftp) -- especially because i don't have the cds. i am using > the "compact" kernel. > > i am dealing with three machines, and they all have different network > cards. one is a ne2000, one a 3c59x, the next a tulip chip. i would > like to install the network drivers, but they aren't on any of the > disks. > > my headaches are with the driver-1.bin disk, which resides in the > compact directory -- how do i use it? it looks like a 512byte offset > gzipped disk image, but the debian installation program can't load it > - it waits for like 5 minutes before reporting that it "cannot mount > the floppy. stop." > > what's the native method to configure the network cards during a > floppy install? > > martin; (greetings from the heart of the sun.) > \ echo mailto: !#^."<*>"|tr "<*> mailto:"; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -- > 1-800-psych > hello, welcome to the psychiatric hotline. > if you are depressed, it doesn't matter which number you press. no one > will answer. > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >
Re: simple routing question
Hm. Your post seems off-topic to me, but I could be wrong. If your cousin uses an old Storm-Linux CD for a coaster then probably anything you posted would be on topic in this list :-) But seriously, the problem is that you're trying to use a router that isn't on the host's network. You can't do this. If your host has a single NIC with a single address, it can only talk directly to nodes on the same network as its address. The solution is to leave your hosts' default router set to 10.10.8.254, and add a static route to 10.10.8.254's routing table to forward all packets from your host straight to 10.10.6.1. Regards, Paul Mackinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "Jonathan Lupa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2001 5:17 AM Subject: simple routing question I have the feeling that I just can't do what I want, but I figured I'd ask to be sure... I have a host with a static IP in the 10.10.8.* network. The router for that network is 10.10.8.254. There is another router 10.10.6.1, which can be reached through 10.10.8.254. What I would like to do is: route add -net 10.0.0.0/8 gw 10.10.8.254 route add -host 10.10.6.1 gw 10.10.8.254 route add default gw 10.10.6.1 But every time I attempt to add that default route it gives me a "Network Unreachable" error. Thoughts? -Jonathan -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG public key available from http://lupavista.jamdata.net/gpg.asc -- Lament 1750: "If I only had a radioactive decay source and a fast free-running oscillator..."
apt question revisitted
Disclaimer: Post from blatant newbie. I tried der.hans' advice to add the two lines to /etc/apt/sources.list for woody (these exactly match the woody page on www.debian.org, BTW) > deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian testing main contrib non-free > deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US testing/non-US main contrib non-free and then per his suggestion, did the following: > Do an "apt-get update", then an "apt-get install apt"... This seems to have failed. See below for what appeared in my terminal, suggestions as to how to proceed very much appreciated--I'd like to either revert to how things were before, or finish this installation without totally bonking the system. Side topic: My motivation for upgrading from potato is that I need to learn java, would prefer to do it on Linux. I'm having trouble installing a java SDK that supports the examples in O'Reilly's Nutshell book I'm also having the usual trouble getting java applets to run on potato's version of Mozilla. I downloaded mozilla 0.9.2, but it won't run because it can't find the shared library: 'libc6++.so.u.think.u.can.run.linux'. I downloaded the Sun Java SDK, javac won't run either, basically says the same thing. I *think* I know that this error means that the program is looking for a symbolic link to the libc shared library, can someone confirm this and/or explain how to resolve these issues? Thanks, Paul Mackinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] Backup? MacDonald's is always hiring aren't they? Apt error output from terminal: dog:~# apt-get install apt Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done The following extra packages will be installed: binutils cpp cpp-2.95 g++ g++-2.95 gcc gcc-2.95 gobjc gobjc-2.95 libc6 libc6-dev libdb2 libdb2-util libstdc++2.10-dev libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2 locales The following NEW packages will be installed: cpp-2.95 g++-2.95 gcc-2.95 gobjc-2.95 libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2 12 packages upgraded, 5 newly installed, 0 to remove and 313 not upgraded. Need to get 14.0MB of archives. After unpacking 3267kB will be used. Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Get:1 http://http.us.debian.org testing/main libdb2 2:2.7.7-8 [273kB] Get:2 http://http.us.debian.org testing/main libc6 2.2.3-5 [3206kB] Get:3 http://http.us.debian.org testing/main libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2 1:2.95.4-0.010424 [126kB] Get:4 http://http.us.debian.org testing/main apt 0.5.3 [591kB] Get:5 http://http.us.debian.org testing/main binutils 2.11.90.0.7-2 [1198kB] Get:6 http://http.us.debian.org testing/main cpp 1:2.95.3-7 [2526B] Get:7 http://http.us.debian.org testing/main cpp-2.95 1:2.95.4-0.010424 [114kB] Get:8 http://http.us.debian.org testing/main g++ 1:2.95.3-7 [1256B] Get:9 http://http.us.debian.org testing/main g++-2.95 1:2.95.4-0.010424 [1018kB]Get:10 http://http.us.debian.org testing/main gcc 1:2.95.3-7 [3276B] Get:11 http://http.us.debian.org testing/main gcc-2.95 1:2.95.4-0.010424 [940kB]Get:12 http://http.us.debian.org testing/main libstdc++2.10-dev 1:2.95.4-0.010424 [299kB] Get:13 http://http.us.debian.org testing/main libc6-dev 2.2.3-5 [2292kB] Get:14 http://http.us.debian.org testing/main locales 2.2.3-5 [2949kB] Get:15 http://http.us.debian.org testing/main gobjc 1:2.95.3-7 [1082B] Get:16 http://http.us.debian.org testing/main gobjc-2.95 1:2.95.4-0.010424 [850kB] Get:17 http://http.us.debian.org testing/main libdb2-util 2:2.7.7-8 [107kB] Fetched 14.0MB in 43s (320kB/s) (Reading database ... 41000 files and directories currently installed.) Preparing to replace libdb2-util 2:2.4.14-2.7.7.1.c (using .../libdb2-util_2%3a2.7.7-8_i386.deb) ... Unpacking replacement libdb2-util ... Preparing to replace libdb2 2:2.4.14-2.7.7.1.c (using .../libdb2_2%3a2.7.7-8_i386.deb) ... Unpacking replacement libdb2 ... Replacing files in old package libc6 ... Preparing to replace locales 2.1.3-18 (using .../locales_2.2.3-5_all.deb) ... Unpacking replacement locales ... Preparing to replace cpp 1:2.95.2-13 (using .../cpp_1%3a2.95.3-7_i386.deb) ... Unpacking replacement cpp ... Selecting previously deselected package cpp-2.95. Unpacking cpp-2.95 (from .../cpp-2.95_1%3a2.95.4-0.010424_i386.deb) ... Selecting previously deselected package gobjc-2.95. Unpacking gobjc-2.95 (from .../gobjc-2.95_1%3a2.95.4-0.010424_i386.deb) ... Preparing to replace gobjc 1:2.95.2-13 (using .../gobjc_1%3a2.95.3-7_i386.deb) ... Unpacking replacement gobjc ... Preparing to replace gcc 1:2.95.2-13 (using .../gcc_1%3a2.95.3-7_i386.deb) ... Removing old gcc doc directory. Unpacking replacement gcc ... Preparing to replace binutils 2.9.5.0.37-1 (using .../binutils_2.11.90.0.7-2_i386.deb) ... Unpacking replacement binutils ... Selecting previously deselected package gcc-2.95. Unpacking gcc-2.95 (from .../gcc-2.95_1%3a2.95.4-0.010424_i386.deb) ... Preparing to replace g++ 1:2.95.2-13 (using .../g++_1%3a2.95.3-7_i386.deb) ... Unpacking replacement g++ ... Selecting previously deselected package g++
Re: Install "testing" from scratch?
After having apt install dist-update totally bonk a system (afterward neither apt nor dselect would run without generating errors, and dselect finally removed enough of the base config that it wouldn't boot), I nuked, paved, and did pretty much what Steve suggested, except that I had a Potato CD. During the apt setup routine, I added the CD, added the default http debian.org site, then appended the following lines from the http://www.debian.org/releases/testing/ page: deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian testing main contrib non-free deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US testing/non-US main non-free If the installer doesn't let you do this for some reason, you can ctrl-F2 into another window, log in as root and edit /etc/apt/sources.list directly, then ctrl-F1 back to the installer. My reasoning was that packages that haven't been updated since my 2.2r3 would get installed from the CD, packages more recent than the CD that are the same in potato and woody would get installed from the online potato dist, and the latest packages would get installed from online the woody dist. The install seems to have gone well. The only problem I'm aware of is that vi doens't want to run (something about a bad wrapper, vi-base or elvis-tiny not found) but I use vim anyway so no big deal. I used the advanced (dselect) method to finish the install. Anyone have comments on this technique? Paul Mackinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Thu, Jul 05, 2001 at 09:31:22AM -0600, Gary Hennigan uttered: >> I suppose I can install a bare-bones potato and dist-upgrade to >> testing but that's an additional step I would rather avoid if >> possible. >> >Install a base potato syetem, and when you reboot, ask to edit sources.list >manually and put 'woody' or 'testing' in there, instead of 'stable'. >Oh, and don't forget to disable the security line. > >-- Steve __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
Re: [users] Mail from OE to linux and more
Hi! This is a little long-winded, so bail now if you're not interested in newbie mail setup woes... I'm yet another person who'd love to completely transition from Windows to Linux. And yes, I use Outlook and yes, getting mail really working on Linux is the biggest obstacle to my completing the transition. I like Mutt. I'm willing to learn it. There've been very cool posts to this list about customizing it. But despite reading the fetchmail man pages and the relevant sections of Running Linux, the Network Administrator's Guide, and Linux in a Nutshell, I'm still confused. Here's what I'm trying to do, advice on both stategy and technique is appreciated: Task 1. While logged in to my debian system as 'paul', get my @Home mail and send all outgoing mail through @Home's smtp server with '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' as the return address. As I understand it, I should be able to do this without just fechtmail and mutt. Progress: I've successfully set up a .netrc file in my home directory to handle the username & password. My.fetchmailrc file is: poll mail.xxx.yyy.home.com proto pop3 user "pmackinney" is "paul" and I invoke fetchmail with just the -k argument (because I'm testing). But outbound mail doesn't get sent. Task 2. Use exim to forward all administrative and local mail to user 'paul', to a mailbox that mutt can access. This is not working at all, I've run eximconfig trying each of the 6 default options. As near as I can figure, the only domain I should really have to set in the exim config file is localhost, and make sure that the alias file points everything to 'paul'. But it ain't working. Once the two above tasks are accomplished, I'll get to work on customizing mutt, use procmail to sort incoming mail into different mailboxes, and configure exim/mutt so that messages sent to the local system get sent with the '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' return address. But these 2 tasks essential for me to feel comfortable in migrating my email from Windows. Thanks in advance for any help. Paul
Help with icewm-gnome
I'm running gnome, want to use icewm with the default theme. Unfortunately, the Gnome Control Center's Window Manager caplet is empty. How can I get icewm listed in there with all the themes, etc.? Here's how I got to this state: - Installed potato base. - Added woody sources.list lines - Used dselect to install a ton of stuff, including gnome and two window managers: sawfish and icewm. At that point gnome would come up in sawfish, only sawfish was listed in the Windows Manager caplet. - I used dselect to uninstall sawfish. Now the Window Manager caplet was empty. Since then I've force-removed icewm-gnome and reinstalled it, I've run apt-get install --fix-broken but no luck. It would be nice to be alble to run the configuration tool, select themes, etc. TIA, Paul Sorry, no sig yet. The guys who collected my open-source registration fee said they'd be right back with it...
Re: Mouse problem
On Thu, Jul 12, 2001 at 11:09:55AM -0400, Cheng-Dar K Lee wrote: > Hi, > I am a newbie of Debian. I tried to install the potato version of > Debian for like the nth time and still couldn't get my mouse worked. The > mouse doesn't follow my hand motion and moves erratically on the screen > in X. The protocol in XF86Config is "PS/2" and the device driver for the > mouse is "/dev/psaux", which is the configuration info I got when I > installed RH 6.2. Uninstalling gpm is one solution. Otherwise the first task is to ignore X and find a device/mouse-type combo that get gpm is working acceptably in the standard terminal. The gpm settings then determine how your mouse should be set up in X. In general, if repeating is enabled, you should a) use /dev/gpmdata in the XF86Config file, and b) set the mouse type to match the gpm repeat type. Setting the repeat type to 'raw' and using the actual mouse-type in X is the first thing to try, but if it doesn't work you should try a standard repeat type such as 'ms' or 'ms3' and use the corresponding Protocol listing in your XF86Config file. If gpm repeating is disabled X should use the actual mouse device (e.g., /dev/psaux), and set the Protocol line in XF86Config to match the mouse. Be prepared to try several combinations before you find one that works, just remember that any time you touch the gpm settings you should be prepared to re-tweak X. Paul
Re: .bashrc
On Thu, Jul 12, 2001 at 10:20:52AM -0500, Larry W. Irwin Sr. wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I am running Debian potato and am having a problem with .bashrc. > It works fine as root but does not get executed when I log in as > a user. The default .bashrc contains one alias command (the rest > are commented out). When I type 'alias' (under the regular user > account), no aliases are shown. What gives? I think you said it: "...the rest are commented out...". Debian bash is set up this way by default. Just uncomment the alias lines you want to use and the next time you log in you'll have the aliases. When you create a new user, the .bashrc file is copied from /etc/skel, so edit that one if you want all new users to start out with the aliases active. PM
Re: sendmail gethostbyaddr fails
On Fri, Jul 13, 2001 at 12:51:20PM -0700, Mike Pfleger wrote: > On Fri, Jul 13, 2001 at 01:10:01PM -0600, Jimmy Richards wrote: > > > Try dig -x 192.168.1.45 > > Hi Jim. > > OK. Here's the spew: > > ;; Got answer: > ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NXDOMAIN, id: 55359 > ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 1, ADDITIONAL: 0 > > ;; QUESTION SECTION: > ;45.1.168.192.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR > > ;; AUTHORITY SECTION: > 168.192.IN-ADDR.ARPA. 10590 IN SOA blackhole.isi.edu. > bmanning.isi.edu. 19971802 10800 900 604800 86400 > > ;; Query time: 65 msec > ;; SERVER: 24.64.223.195#53(24.64.223.195) > ;; WHEN: Fri Jul 13 12:43:32 2001 > ;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 125 > > It appears that the first nameserver in resolv.conf is queried about > this. This is what I suspected. Since I am using dhcp-client on > this workstation, and a fireplug firewall, what do I need to do to > /etc/hosts to make it reflect the state of ifconfig (see below)? > > eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:A0:CC:E5:FA:7C > inet addr:192.168.1.45 Bcast:192.168.1.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 > UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 > RX packets:6503 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 > TX packets:6990 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 > collisions:0 txqueuelen:100 > RX bytes:3417730 (3.2 Mb) TX bytes:725129 (708.1 Kb) > Interrupt:12 Base address:0xb000 > > loLink encap:Local Loopback > inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 > UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1 > RX packets:2827 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 > TX packets:2827 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 > collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 > RX bytes:675627 (659.7 Kb) TX bytes:675627 (659.7 Kb) > > TIA, > Mike My last message crossed with this one, I didn't realize you'd discovered that the address was your machine's. If you can rely on keeping the address, you can put whatever you like in /etc/hosts 192.168.1.45debiansystem But this isn't the answer, the answer is to properly configure the service that's causing the error, probably by having it reference 'localhost'. HTH, Paul
Re: Installing Java
D-Man uttered: > On Fri, Jul 13, 2001 at 04:41:40PM -0300, Juan wrote: > | HI, > | > | Which packages will I have to install to run & compile Java? And run Java > | Server Pages? > > kaffe might be enough. There are different versions and vendors of > Java interpreters so it depends on which one you want. Most aren't > DFSG free so they aren't really in Debian though you can download and > use them just fine from, eg Blackdown or IBM. > > -D > It's java, why not get it from Sun? http://java.sun.com/j2se/ You want either the 1.4 beta or 1.3.1. There are two packages, a RedHat RPM shell script and a GNUZIP Tar shell script. I've installed both with equal success, but if you have to use alien to do the RPM. This will let you compile and run applets. Not quite sure what you mean by "run Java Server Pages", but I've successfully embedded applet referencse in html, publish the pages in apache and seen them work in a browser. Paul
Re: keyboard HOWTO
Carel Fellinger uttered: > On Sat, Jul 14, 2001 at 05:39:05PM +0200, Ionel Mugurel Ciobica wrote: > ... > > I have tried LeftAlt with numbers from keypad and the others, > > for me only keypad nrs work, on the console that is > > > P.P.S. My /etc/console/boottime.kmap.gz file have this line: > > keycode 56 = Alt > > same here > Works for me in the console, not in X (gterm). But thanks to this list, I can easily switch from X to console & back again: Starting in X, Ctrl-Alt-Fn gives a console login prompt. Starting the the console, Alt- cycles through all terminals, will take you back into X. PM
Re: Installing Java
Juan uttered: > At 09:04 14/07/01 -0700, you wrote: > >It's java, why not get it from Sun? http://java.sun.com/j2se/ > > > >You want either the 1.4 beta or 1.3.1. There are two packages, a RedHat > >RPM shell script and a GNUZIP Tar shell script. I've installed both with > >equal success, but if you have to use alien to do the RPM. This will let > >you compile and run applets. > Can I install RPM into Debian? > > > Thanks. > > > Juan Jos? Vel?zquez Garcia > Web Development > www.htmlspider.com.br > alien is a program that converts between .deb, .rpm, .tgz, and .slp package formats. Install alien by running the following line as root: apt-get install alien Then use 'man alien' to see how it works. Some on this list will be opposed to installing rpms for theological reasons, but this one worked for me. Good luck! Paul
Re: Installing Java
D-Man uttered: > | It's java, why not get it from Sun? http://java.sun.com/j2se/ > > It's not "Free". I knew it, theology! > | Not quite sure what you mean by "run Java Server Pages", but I've > > He's talking about Java Server Pages (aka JSP) : _informed_ theology! The best kind... this is what I switched from RH in order to find. Thanks, Paul
Re: mkfs.vfat? where is it ??
Disem uttered: > I was unable to create an *windows* filesistem... > > mkfs -t vfat /dev/myharddrivepartition.. > > mkfs.vfat: no such file or directory mkfs.vfat returns this error when the specified myharddrivepartition is invalid. You do know that mkfs won't create the partition, right? What does 'fdisk -l /dev/myharddrive' show? My windows partion is listed liike this: /dev/hda1 * 1 523 4200966b Win95 FAT32 HTH, Paul
Re: "man" command made easy?
All that Will said about the man pages is true, and I completely agree about the need for examples; I to have wasted hours fighting syntax errors, all the while with an ugly feeling that I might not even be trying the right command or option. General advice based on things I've done: 1. Use less as you man pager, learn the search tools. 2. Start by searching manpages for 'example'. 3. Use info -- it will run man-pages for programs that don't have info pages, and programs that do have info pages usually have good documentation. 4. Remember to check the HowTos and the contents of /usr/doc/exasperating_command... some of the programs with the worst man pages have excellent manuals. Use zless to read .gz files. 5. Check out the Newbiedoc manual. 6. Invest in some good Linux reference books, I like the Oreilly series a lot. Night before last I ran 'find /usr/doc -name "index.html" >foo.txt' and then spent 2 hours adding links from foo.txt to my local home/start page. I found answers to 3 random trivial questions that have been bugging me; I'll never regret spending the time on this. HTH, Paul
Re: .bashrc
Joost Kooij uttered: > On Mon, Jul 16, 2001 at 08:00:16AM -0700, Greg Wiley wrote: > > > > There might be a better way that doesn't > > require modifying /etc/X11/kdm/Xsession > > and I'd be happy to hear it. > Here's what I'm doing: I installed gdm, then deleted the 'S99gdm' symlink from /etc/rc2.d. So I boot to the command-line at runlevel 2 by default. When I want to run X, I just use the 'init' command to go to runlevel 3 (# init 3), et voila! I get the gdm login that allows me to pick between gnome & kde. To switch back, just #init 2 from any terminal window after saving anything in open windows. I got this idea from a recent post to this list where someone pointed out that Debian intends run levels to be user-defined & configurable. Paul
Re: "man" command made easy?
D-Man uttered: > > [I haven't been following most of this thread, but] > > On Mon, Jul 16, 2001 at 10:59:23AM -0700, Paul Mackinney wrote: > | Night before last I ran 'find /usr/doc -name "index.html" >foo.txt' and > | then spent 2 hours adding links from foo.txt to my local home/start > > 2 hours!? Wow. Learn vi(m) or some other advanced editor. If you > have that foo.txt with each filename on its own line the following > will take very little time to create a web page of links out of it. > Vim is indeed my editor of choice. The 2 hours was mostly because I got distracted reading & checking out the stuff I found. But my edits weren't nearly as slick as what you suggest. Thanks to a conversation at a BAD (Bay Area Debian) meeting last week, I was clued in to visual mode. Here's what I did: 1. At the first line, type 'v' to enter visual mode. 2. Scroll to the last line, type ':' 3. Vim starts the command text for you. Append s/^/ DESCR <\/a>/g This turned a line like /usr/share/doc/apache/manual/mod/index.html into DESCR But your technique for capturing the original line & using it for the link description is very cool & will save me much effort for my updates. Thanks! Paul
Re: Off Topic: iptables, ping, traceroute
William Jensen uttered: > > I'm experiencing 20 to 54% packet loss coming into my pc and going out. > Charter cable company has been "resolving" this for almost 8 months now. > I've even showed them the exact ip to their local router that's causing > the problems, yet the continue to want to ping my machine and run > traceroutes to it. > What geographical region are you in, and what cable modem are you using? I'm an @Home user near Berkely, CA. I stopped being able to run anything like a chat-utility last winter. Specifically, I couldn't keep a chess game going on pogo, and I also got disconnected when I tried the "live chat" tech support with the trained monkeys at Excite. The solution (after much pinging and tracerouting) was to hammer their tier 3 tech support into sending a tech out. His highly unofficial story was that they'd upgraded their switches, and all of the older cable modems in my area had problems. He gave me a new RCA modem and my problems vanished. My advice: put your foot down and insist that a service tech come to your home to check things out. When he shows up, give him a beer and casually pump him for info about what they changed at the server end recently, and whether lots of people in your area seem to have the same problem. If possible, be running Windows when he gets there--it's sad but true that running Linux will just give them an excuse to blame you instead of solving your problem. HTH, Paul
Re: "man" command made easy?
Rebecca Dridan uttered: > > And for those who, like me, don't like the key bindings in info, check out > pinfo, apt-get install pinfo. Thanks, Bec. I don't much like the Info bindings. (Don't like Lynx too much either, but I'd rather learn as few sets of keybindings as possible...) Paul
apt-move config problem
Anyone have more insight on this? Here's a question I asked Joost & his reply: > I've installed apt-move, and I've got my mirrors directory set up. Each > time I run apt or deselect I decline to let it remove downloaded files > and apt-move update. > > So far so good, but when I apt-get update it doesn't use the mirror. > The first lines of an update look like this: > > Ign file: woody/contrib Release > Ign file: woody/main Release > Ign file: woody/non-free Release > Ign file: woody/non-US/main Release > Ign file: woody/non-US/non-free Release > > I'm sure my sources.list file is messed up. Can you tell me how to fix > it? You probably need to create a Release file, but I don't know the name of the script that can do this. It may be called apt-ftparchive, in the apt-utils package. The Release file appears to be an apt thing. If you check the debian archive site manually with a webbrowser, you can see what these files look like from the inside. It lists the Packages files and a checksum for their content. There is in turn also a signature for the Release file, but I don't thinks that is used by default. I found some more info for you: http://lists.debian.org/debian-cd-0104/msg00080.html > Here's a glimpse of my /mirrors dir: > > $ ls /mirrors/debian/dists/woody/ > contrib main non-US non-free > > And here's my sources.list file: > > # My attempt to get apt-move mirror to work... > deb file:///mirrors/debian woody contrib main non-free > deb file:///mirrors/debian woody/non-US main non-free Looks okay. Cheers, Joost
Re: How to set up a "prefect" router
Wayne Topa uttered: > > Subject: Re: How to set up a "prefect" router > Date: Wed, Jul 18, 2001 at 12:16:30AM +0200 > > In reply to:Raffaele Sandrini > > Quoting Raffaele Sandrini([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > On Tuesday 17 July 2001 20:02, Michael B. Taylor wrote: > > > > Is there a one floppy linux you can recommend. I must have ppp included? Check out http://www.linuxrouter.org/ My advice: - If you're routing ethernet to ethernet, use the same card so that you only need one NIC module. perfectly. - Consider the fact you could get a used 1 GB drive for <$25, this could be a router/mailserver/mini-website. Linux runs great on a older CPUs, just don't try to do extreme development or run X. - Check out http://www.linuxrouter.org/ - If you do pull the hard drive, don't pull it until you've got the floppy boot working. GL, PM
Re: [OT] beware citibank!
Jens Gecius uttered: > Vineet Kumar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > ---Very OffTopic--- > > Mozilla just doesn't work. > Further OffTopic: I can't get Mozilla to do java. I'm using the nightly builds, the installer works great. If I follow the link they recommend to install Java support from the netscape sight, it claims success but then every time I launch mozilla after that it tells me that I need to restart (even after restarting and restarting and restarting). I have installed the j2sdk, I've tried manually placing symlinks from .../jre/plugin/i386/ns600/libjavaplugin_oji140.so to mozilla's plugin folder. Netscape 477's java VM works fine, but with ugly fonts and bad windows sizes. Any suggestions?
Re: Folders in Mutt
Sam Varghese muttered: > > I'd like to have a few folders into which I can > move mail after reading but if the mail supposed to > go there does so automatically I wouldn't mind either. > - My system is essentially single user, right now I'm only checking one POP3 account for incoming mail. I use exim to forward local mail to my user account (root, webmaster, etc. all go to my Linux username) and to send outgoing mail to my ISP's SMTP server. - Fetchmail gets my POP3 mail, here are the files I had to set up: # ~/.fetchmailrc these settings mean that when I log in as username, # I can just type 'fetchmail' to poll my pop3 account. poll pop3server.myisp.com proto pop3 user "pmackinney" is "username" # end of file # /etc/cron.d/fetchmail: crontab fragment for fetchmail # Run queue every 15 minutes 08,23,38,53 * * * * username /usr/bin/fetchmail # end of file Because of exim & fetchmail, I don't check mail with mutt directly at all, it's just a reader. The 'c' command to change mbox will default to the next mbox that has mail, the list of mboxes that it checks are set up in your muttrc file. I was able to edit this file and do all kinds of neat stuff: /usr/doc/mutt/examples/sample.muttrc.gz - Here's the .forward file that sorts my incoming mail before I see it. I got the example from someone else on this list. THANKS! # Exim filter <
Re: Quick mail delivery question
See the "Folders in Mutt" thread on this list.
SOLVED (was Java (was Re: [OT] beware citibank!)
DvB muttered: > Paul Mackinney wrote: > > Jens Gecius uttered: > There's something seriously messed up with debian/mozilla/java. However, > I found the following usenet thread which helped me get mine working > (I'm using the blackdown jre from testing with mozilla nightlies). The > only thing I had to do was make the libXt.so symlink and java worked for > me. If you can get it working without setting ASSUME_KERNEL, I would > strongly recommend not setting it... > > http://groups.google.com/groups?q=mozilla+java+debian+symlink&hl=en&safe=off&rnum=2&ic=1&selm=4A9886ADB0%25news%40youmustbejoking.demon.cu.invalid This did the trick. Specifically, here's how I got Mozilla 0.9.2 running with Java VM for the first time ever on my Woody system with j2sdk 1.4.0 installed: 1. Logged in as root, specifying Gnome session from gdm. 2. Used Netscape 4.77 to Download the lastest Mozilla nightly talkback build: http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla/nightly/latest/mozilla-i686-pc-linux-gnu-installer.tar.gz 3. Opened a term window, installed mozilla and launched it: # tar zxf mozilla-i686-pc-linux-gnu-installer.tar.gz # cd mozilla-installer # ./moz*installer 4. Mozilla launches itself at the end of the install. Linux Plugin" button; let it do it's thing. 5. Quit Mozilla. 6. Create the following symlinks, your paths may vary: # link -s /usr/java/j2sdk1.4.0/jre/plugin/i386/ns600/libjavaplugin_oji.so /usr/local/mozilla/plugins/libjavaplugin_oji.so # link -s /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.6 /usr/local/mozilla/libXt.so 7. Restart, log in a a normal user, browse away. Thanks everyone who helped make this possible. Note that you might want to save the symlink commands in a script, since updating the mozilla nightly build nukes the old version. Paul
Re: my console.
Adam Bell muttered: > Might want to try vga=ask first, since it fails softly if it can't > select the mode you ask it for. :/ I use vga=ext on a system that started with the default potato kernel, later upgraded to Woody. Works great. Paul
Re: New-to-Debian
Sam Varghese muttered: > > On Thu, Jul 19, 2001 at 12:52:53AM +1000, K.P wrote: > > > Hello, > > > I am NEW to the world of Linux and Debian has come higly recommended in > > > Australia for its versatility. I have not tried it yet and I hope to gain > > > some feedback as to whether Debian is appropriate for new users. > > The best resource for new users IMHO is Bill McCarty's > book which is online at: > http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/debian/chapter/index.html > Thanks, Sam! I'm quickly becoming an Oreilly addict, didn't know they had a Debian-specific title out there. I own Running Linux, Linux Network Administrator's Guide, and Essential System Administration, considering buying Linux in a Nutshell because I like reading on paper and it has examples. I can't wait to spend some time on this one. Paul
Re: Help with creating installation CDs
Giri X muttered: > hi > I am trying to install Debian GNU/Linux on my PC. I wanted to know > if i culd burn the images that are in formats like .bin, .exe, .bat and use > them for installation. I have access to CD writers only on Windows. The CD > writer software is DirectCD. > Thanx and Regards > Girix Giri, Start by RTFM. The process for building the CD is explained in detail starting at www.debian.org. Even *I* did it, so it can't be too hard :-) You can create a CD image in ISO format and burn a CD in Windows with Easy CD Creator, but you can also run the install from a batch file in the DOS prompt, and you only need to downlaod about 20 MB or less to get that going, the rest can be installed over the internet. (The real secret is that you don't even need to make a CD.) But start by making a cup of cocoa, put the cat in your lap, and dive into the instructions on www.debian.org. cheers, Paul
Re: follow-up to my queries on folders in mutt
Sam Varghese muttered: > thanks to those who responded to my query about > getting folders organised in mutt. i now actually > have folders - though i can only save manually. > ideally, i would like all read material to go > into a folder once i log out. > > i also found that some of the syntax which i came > across in .muttrc files on the web does not do > what it is supposed to. i use mutt to download > and read my mail with exim doing the smtp bit. > i wanted to automate the mail checks but the > syntax set pop_checkinterval=60 doesn't appear > to be valid. > > i am using version 1.2.5i on potato. > > sam > -- Sam, Did you try a .forward file? Exim downloads my mail and put's in the mailboxes I specify. Also, check out the contents of /etc/cron and the /etc/cron.d folder, this is where automatic mail checking is scheduled. -- Paul Mackinney [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Backup strategey? (Was: Preventing windows from scr...)
Cormac McGuinness muttered: > All my files/data were gone (I had two synchronised copies though, so I > wasnt really worried :) ) I'm a recent convert to Linux as my defaul boot-OS and the OS I do email on (a definition of where we really live?) One thing I haven't done yet is get a good automated backup strategy going. I have lots of spare HD room, a CD-R, and a DDS-2 Archive Python 4-tape library. I have a lot of experience with backup strategy, but I'd appreciate software recommendations. Thanks, Paul
Re: forcing a pci nic to use a different irq?
Matthew Garman muttered: > According to the Ethernet HOWTO, the most common cause of this problem is > an IRQ conflict. This seems believable, because... > > cat /proc/interrupts > >CPU0 > 0: 42726 XT-PIC timer > 1: 2024 XT-PIC keyboard > 2: 0 XT-PIC cascade > 4: 12012 XT-PIC > 5: 3 XT-PIC soundblaster > 11: 5986 XT-PIC sym53c8xx, eth0 > 12: 4799 XT-PIC PS/2 Mouse > 14: 2 XT-PIC ide0 > NMI: 0 > ERR: 0 > > You can see that both my SCSI controller and my ethernet card live on IRQ > 11. I'm not an expert on IRQs, but my (vague!) understanding is that it's actually the PCI controller that uses the IRQ, so if these devices are on the same bus, it doesn't necessarily indicate a conflict. Joost is absolutely on the right track: what changed between when it worked and when it quit working? This should be a clue. Also, before pinging it from another host, make sure that ifconfig returns good info for eth0 and that it can ping itself at eth0's TCP/IP address--if either of these fail then you already know it's not talking. One standard trouble-shooting technique for PCI devices is to swap the cards into different slots. HTH, Paul
Re: dhcp & ip addresses
> On Sat, 28 Jul 2001, Eric Boo spake: > > > Hi all, > > > > I'm using pump on SID. My ISP is a cable provider who do not issue > > static ips. Usually, when I use pump, I have the same ip address for > > months, unless I switch off the modem and someone else grabs it. > > > > When I reboot into windows on the same machine, I get another ip > > address, then when I go back to linux again, it's back to the same old > > ip address again (assuming no one grabbed it). If I use dhcpcd, it's > > another ip. > > > > Question: How are these ip address stored, if they are (under pump > > espcially), and how do I force pump to get another different ip if > > needed? Here's the deal: Your computer gets a lease from the dhcp server. The lease is for a specific period, for example, 3 days. Halfway through the lease period, your computer's dhcp client should automatically request that the least be renewed, so you get a new 3-day lease. _Typically_ if you never shut down, your TCP/IP address will never change. When you run Windows, you can see the lease details via WINIPCFG or IPCONFIG. The former is a gui utility built into Win95/98/Me. The latter should be run from the WinNT/2K cmd shell. (Try IPCONFIG /ALL). Both of these tools allow you to release or renew your lease manually. I'd love it if someone would reply and post the Linux equivalents, I behind on my RTFMing. Likely, your computer automatically tries to renew the lease each time the eth0 interface starts up (eg, every reboot or running ifup in Linux. The current OS _probably_ looks like a different computer to the DHCP server. If the other OS's lease hasn't expired, it'll naturally give you a different address because it thinks you're a different system. How are the addresses stored? That's up to the DHCP client, Windows and Linux probably do it differently. If they have a current lease, they'll keep using it. If the lease has expired while that OS wasn't running it should try to get a new lease as soon as it starts up, and it's going to take whatever the server gives it. The DHCP server controls the lease period and whether the server attempts to reserve expired leases. HTH, Paul
Re: Where to go from here
Frank Zimmermann muttered: > Colin Bell wrote: > > I have been trying to get a useful Debian unstallation up for about 5 > > weeks now. I can get the base system installed but then where do I look Lots of good suggestions, but for a newbie I'd focus on the docs at www.debian.org. I found http://www.debian.org/releases/potato/installguide/ very useful. You _will_ want to learn to use apt and dselect, but re-running base-config (the 'easy' setup option) is a great way to get started. In fact, a great way to learn dselect is to install everything you think you _might_ want with base-config, then use dselect to trim the fat. HTH... Paul -- Paul Mackinney [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Toggle English/Dvorak keybaord in wmaker?
I'm very happy with my decision to switch from Gnome to WindowMaker, but I can't figure out how to set up both US and Dvorak keymaps. The interface to toggle between keymaps is evident in the WPrefs utility, but I only get the English keymap. This is working in Gnome, so I know that the Dvorak keymap is installed and available to X. I've looked in the Window Maker User's guide and the relevant HOWTOS without finding an answer. Anyone know how to set this up (and/or where it's documented?) TIA, Paul -- Paul Mackinney [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cable Modem on Linux
W. Paul Mills muttered: > > I use the Linksys. It is actually a 4-port switch with a built in > firewall and router, and a port for connection to your cable modem. > Seems to work pretty well for me on roadrunner. > > Paul > Here's another vote for Linksys. I've got the router-only version, works great. One _can_ hobble something together with just a hub, but this is a bad idea for reasons pointed out elsewhere in this thread. Either buy the second ethernet card for your Linux box, or buy the hardware router. I've run a Linux router with a 16 MB 486 and a pair of 3c509s, gave it up when my RH6.2 system got hacked repeatedly. I didn't have time to learn how to secure it so I switched to the Linksys (should have just switched to debian :-), but this is the way to go if you want to learn how to harden your system. Paul -- Paul Mackinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] <- Please note new email address
Re: debian-user-digest Digest V101 #1003
harsha muttered: > hi, > > > I am on holiday till August 27nd and I do not intend to check my mail > > every day. > > Please contact the LINOV - EuroPACE office for urgent matters. > > tel +32 16 32 75 73 > > http://www.europace.be/contact/staff.html > > what the hell is this? I am the only one getting this or others are > getting this too I have received 6 such mails. The blithering idio--, er, newbie-- has set up an automated email reply while he's on vacation. Evidently he's forgotten that he's subscribed to the Debian User Digest (along with several dozen other lists, one cheerfully conjectures) and thus he's set up a closed email loop: his automatic reply would trigger another digest in the absence of other traffic. Perhaps our astute list manager will grok it and unsubscribe the fellow. Or perhaps someone will decide that this is an urgent matter and contact www.eurospace.be and ask them to disable his account. Of course, my sense of humor is so low that I think this is kind of funny. HTH, Paul -- Paul Mackinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] <- Please note new email address
Re: debian-user-digest Digest V101 #1003
harsha muttered: > hi, > > > I am on holiday till August 27nd and I do not intend to check my mail > > every day. > > Please contact the LINOV - EuroPACE office for urgent matters. > > tel +32 16 32 75 73 > > http://www.europace.be/contact/staff.html > > what the hell is this? I am the only one getting this or others are > getting this too I have received 6 such mails. The blithering idio--, er, newbie-- has set up an automated email reply while he's on vacation. Evidently he's forgotten that he's subscribed to the Debian User Digest (along with several dozen other lists, one cheerfully conjectures) and thus he's set up a closed email loop: his automatic reply would trigger another digest in the absence of other traffic. Perhaps our astute list manager will grok it and unsubscribe the fellow. Or perhaps someone will decide that this is an urgent matter and contact www.eurospace.be and ask them to disable his account. Of course, my sense of humor is so low that I think this is kind of funny. HTH, Paul -- Paul Mackinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] <- Please note new email address
Re: jdk 1.3
Pascal THIVENT muttered: > Hi, > > the blackdown JDK is available as debian package on > http://www.blackdown.org. > Just choose download and select your ftp mirror... > > You could choose to install the IBM developer kit for Java on > http://www6.software.ibm.com/dl/dklx130/dklx130-p. > You just have to create an account (it's free). > The IBM JDK IS available in tarball format > > HTH I've heard that the Sun and Blackdown are identical for jdk1.3, I've installed both and on the surface they appeared identical. By inspecting one of the Blackdown mirror sites, I was able to successfully configure my sources.list file and persuade apt to work. I use 'javac' to compile .java to .class, 'java' to run .class files. I've heard that gcj is only 1.0 compatible. Any know of a jdk1.3 compatible compiler to create binaries? TIA, Paul -- Paul Mackinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] <- Please note new email address
Re: jdk 1.3
dman muttered: > On Tue, Aug 14, 2001 at 08:49:49AM -0700, Paul Mackinney wrote: > > | I've heard that the Sun and Blackdown are identical for jdk1.3, I've > | installed both and on the surface they appeared identical. By inspecting > | one of the Blackdown mirror sites, I was able to successfully configure > | my sources.list file and persuade apt to work. > > Yeah, the Blackdown people signed an NDA with Sun in order to port the > Sun jdk to Linux. I think now Sun has decided to actually distribute > a Linux JDK directly from their website so they use the Blackdown > people's work. > > | I use 'javac' to compile .java to .class, 'java' to run .class files. > | I've heard that gcj is only 1.0 compatible. Any know of a jdk1.3 > | compatible compiler to create binaries? > > Do you mean like native binaries? If so, then no. Otherwise I use > jikes because it is nice and fast and produces better error messages > (IMO). > Yes, I meant native binaries which supposedly gcj will do but I haven't tried because it's so obviously out of date. I'll give jikes a try. Question: dselect wants to install something to give me Java VM to go with jikes (e.g., kaffe, jdk1.1). Should I just override this and install jikes by itself? Is there a graceful way to tell dselect that Java VM is already installed? TIA, Paul -- Paul Mackinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] <- Please note new email address
Re: jdk 1.3
Craig: Yes, I knew you meant the 'Q' key. My favorite thing about dselect is that I haven't had to learn how to use dpkg :-) dman: Yes, I understand jikes is just a compiler, but I'll try it with your recommendation. I've noticed that javac is kind of s l o w. Thanks! Paul -- Paul Mackinney [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: jdk 1.3
Aaron Maxwell muttered: > On Tuesday 14 August 2001 09:48, Paul Mackinney wrote: > > Question: dselect wants to install something to give me Java VM to go > > with jikes (e.g., kaffe, jdk1.1). Should I just override this and > > install jikes by itself? Is there a graceful way to tell dselect that > > Java VM is already installed? > > The easiest way may be to install one of the dummy packages: > > shiznit[2]% apt-cache search java|grep dummy > java-compiler-dummy - Dummy Java compiler > java-virtual-machine-dummy - Dummy Java virtual machine > > These packages don't install any new software, they just satisfy > dependencies. They were made for exactly the situation you are facing. > > Try 'apt-get install java-virtual-machine-dummy'. I expect this will > sate jike's longing for a JVM on your system. > > Let us know how it works - > Aaron I had already installed jikes with kaffe (the most benign provider of java VM) but after installing java-virtual-machine-dummy I was able to apt-get remove kaffe without deinstalling jikes. As always, _thanks_ for the specific apt-cache search example! Paul -- Paul Mackinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] <- Please note new email address
Re: .forward file format for exim
Dave Sherohman muttered: > On Sat, Aug 11, 2001 at 04:46:42PM +1000, Sam Varghese wrote: > > #debian lists > > if $h_From: contains "debian-user" or > >$h_To: contains "Debian-user" > >then > >save mail/debian > > endif > > > > theoretically, this should tell exim to sort incoming > > mail into the files specified as per the exim documentation > > at www.exim.org > > > > since it doesn't work, i must be doing something wrong. I think the problem is that the headers you're testing might not be the best choices due to how this list works. I was using if $h_Resent-Sender: contains "debian" then but replaced with if $h_x-mailing-list matches "^" then which was suggested by Wayne Topa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> in this list. Both of them worked, I have no doubt that Wayne's works better than my original effort. My advice: locate and examine some sample .forward files. Many have recently been posted to this list, some are in /usr/doc/exim and/or /usr/doc/mutt, etc. Also, after editing my .forward file, totally breaking it, and generally complicating my life, I can heartily recommend that you take the exim docs seriously and test filters before you implement them. HTH, Paul -- Paul Mackinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] <- Please note new email address
