Install problem with .tgz files?

[Martin Smith]

I recently bought my first computer - a Cyrix P180 without an OS - and
have been trying unsuccessfully for the last week to install Linux.  I
hope someone can help this frustrated newbie.

I first tried to install Debian 2.0 using CDs from CheapBytes. 
Everything went fine until it came time to install the base system, at
which time the machine said it couldn't read the file base2_0.tgz. 
There was an error message obscured by the curses window which looked
like it said something about invalid compressed data.  After a bunch of
fruitless fooling around, I downloaded the base system from the net onto
floppies and was able to install it that way, although the system hung
when it tried to reboot.

I now have a bash shell, but when I now run dselect, I get a number of
error messages something like the following:

gzip: stdin: invalid compressed data -crc error
dpkg-deb: subprocess gzip -dc returned error exit status 2
dpkg: error processing -/var/lib/dpkg/blahblahlah (-install)
corrupted file system tar file
corrupted package archive

What's going wrong?

Martin Smith

Re: [OFFTOPIC] Re: [?] Why should Distros be called as i386 for a 32-bit PC, and as amd64 for a 64-bit PC, when Intel Core PCs are also 64bit systems

[Martin Smith]

On 16/03/2021 12:20, songbird wrote:

Nicholas Geovanis wrote:

On Sun, Mar 14, 2021, 1:50 PM Stefan Monnier 
wrote:

...

FWIW And MIPS was there even a bit earlier with their R4000 (tho the
software support for it only appeared some years later: they first
wanted to have an installed base to which to deploy the software), which
I believe was the first 64bit microprocessor.


And the demise of the DEC Alpha was quite unfortunate. It was super-fast
and OSF/1 was rock-solid. But DEC lost the competitive bid on that project
and Sequent/Dynix, based on hundreds of 486 CPUs, won it. Now owned by IBM
and deep-sixed: They really bought the customer base instead.


   i wondered what happened to them, but didn't look into it.
when the university got rid of the mainframe we switched to
Sequent machines.  the two cabinets replaced the entire
floor of Univac hardware (and all the AC and power costs).
the other nice thing was not listening to those printers
hammering away.


when I was working in the Mullard stores in the 60's they had an 
enormous computer in a very large air conditioned hall about a mile from 
the factory, I dont know what it precisely was but it ran off punched 
tape, and in a side room at the stores we have what was called a line 
printer that printed out invoice/advice note pairs it really was like a 
machine gun printing a line at a time





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Re: Debian-friendly laptop

[Martin Smith]

On 19/05/2021 16:32, Andrei POPESCU wrote:

On Mi, 19 mai 21, 11:06:44, Celejar wrote:

On Wed, 19 May 2021 17:27:16 +0300
Andrei POPESCU  wrote:


On Mi, 19 mai 21, 07:58:05, Celejar wrote:


My previous main machine had been a T60. I gave that up when its
keyboard failed. I know that one of the main selling points of
ThinkPads is their keyboards: they are certainly very good, but
apparently they don't last forever ;)


At least they are easy to replace, or for other components (e.g. CPU
fan) the manual with detailed explanations is readily available (been
there, done that).


True, although "easy" is debatable. I suppose that if I could do it, it
must be easy :/, and I'm sure it's easier than with other machines.


Let me qualify that then: at least to replace the CPU fan assembly for
my late R61 all I needed was a suitable screwdriver, basic dexterity,
some other means to display the manual and patience.

According to the instructions one should be using new screws every time,
but reusing them once or twice is possible, unless the heads are
destroyed in the process.

There are probably tear-downs available on Youtube for those who would
like to see that for themselves.


ifixit.com is highly recommended for teardowns of lots of machines 
especially Lenovo, I have used it myself several times



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Re: OT:hardware query

[Martin Smith]

On 28/06/2019 17:11, mick crane wrote:
The first concern if getting a new PC is that it can play the steam 
games and they are getting really pushy what they need to work.
I never have proper available funds for this stuff these days and 
generally buy used..
The idea is each year or so get something else and move the last one 
down to doing more useful work.
That would mean it should have facility to attach 2 or more internal 
drives and slots for network cards.

If that makes sense what advise something used for 200 UKP ?
mick

if you are anywhere near london you should go to the Stratford computer 
fair lots of good quality secondhand stuff


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Re: Encrypted e-mails?

[Martin Smith]

On 07/09/2018 20:54, Dan Purgert wrote:

 wrote:

On Fri, Sep 07, 2018 at 09:53:08AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:

On Fri, Sep 07, 2018 at 03:47:33PM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:

Darn. I was already planning to only send encrypted messages to this
list :~0

(SCNR)

on'tday endsay encryptedway ailmay otay ublicpay istslay.

:-)

For even more fun, ROT13!
ba'gqnl raqfnl rapelcgrqjnl nvyznl bgnl hoyvpcnl vfgfynl

... although, that kinda looks like I'm trying to summon Cthulhu...


why I thought that was Vogon poetry :)


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Re: MacOS VM on Debian: is it reasonably possible?

[Martin Smith]

On 22/11/2022 13:44, hede wrote:



Whilst I had mistakenly believed that CentOS was a freeware, open source
kind of MacOS clone,


CentOS was derived from Red Hat Enterprise Linux and was mostly 
compatible to RHEL.

"May God rest its soul."


and found that it is not, when I searched for it, I
had understood that a freeware, open source kind of MacOS kind of clone,
is available, and, when I searched on  the three word combination - open
source macos - I found, in the results, the above URL.

So, as an observer, I wonder whether licencing restrictions apply, to
running MacOS on Linux, as a virtual machine.


If you click through the links on that page, it looks like Apple is
just linking to the source code for open source components used in
their operating systems (things like awk, bash, bind, bzip, etc.), but
the operating systems themselves are certainly not open source, and
cannot be legally used except in accordance with Apple's license terms
and / or applicable law.


Darwin is the core of modern Apple OSes. It is Open Source and POSIX 
compatible.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darwin_(operating_system)

But there are plenty of Closed Source parts missing to form either macOS 
or iOS from it. Both - macOS and iOS - are proprietary OSes where you 
have strict license terms to fulfill to use it. One of them is  - AFAIK 
- buying Apple Hardware and running the OS only on Apples Hardware.


MacOSX was originally based on FREEBSD which at the time probably about 
15 years ago I was using BSD for servers in offices and I remember one 
of the senior developers in BSD land went to work for Apple, I can 
remember my delight when I discovered I could summon vi in a terminal on 
a mac


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multiple messages

[Martin Smith]

I am getting multiple messages, all with the same time and date, has my 
thunderbird gone belly up or is anyone else seeing it


this one I have about 50: Re: e-mail with line in body beginning with "From"

and this one:  10/12/2022, 14:49
Re: Monitor traffic on a port


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Re: multiple messages

[Martin Smith]

On 12/12/2022 03:24, David Wright wrote:

On Sun 11 Dec 2022 at 17:52:56 (+), Martin Smith wrote:

I am getting multiple messages, all with the same time and date, has
my thunderbird gone belly up or is anyone else seeing it

this one I have about 50: Re: e-mail with line in body beginning with "From"

and this one:  10/12/2022, 14:49
Re: Monitor traffic on a port

The specific email that you mentioned is at
https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2022/12/msg00262.html
and shouldn't cause any trouble. But it does quote a couple
of header fields from an earlier post, and that may be a clue
to your underlying problem, but not to its immediate cause.

I suggest you read the thread (about a dozen posts) starting at
https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2022/12/msg00250.html
and particularly messages #252 and #269. These discuss
a /possible/ cause of your reported symptoms—you've quoted
the topic of the thread at the top of your post.

You need to determine whether "getting multiple messages"
means that you are seeing multiple displays of the same
message, or the display of local duplicates of one or two
messages, or actual newly arriving copies of these same
messages. Knowing which of these is occurring will help
trace the source.

I think it's an unlikely coincidence that these messages
(particularly if the duplicates are all in the set 252/262/269)
would just happen to be the ones causing a random Tbird
duplication bug to trigger. The problem could lie further
up the chain of processes that deliver the emails.

BTW are you running any filters, like procmail etc?

Cheers,
David.


well thanks for all the suggestions, I am just using thunderbird and 
having discussed it with my mail provider I changed the account from pop 
to imap and now its looking fine, it seems to have been a random 
thunderbird bug, it seems to have been a random thunderbird bug


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Re: Unable to create output file

[Martin Smith]

On 19/12/2022 19:45, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:

On Mon, Dec 19, 2022 at 12:44:56PM -0600, William Torrez Corea wrote:

On Sun, Dec 18, 2022 at 11:09 PM  wrote:

[...]


Go into your DOS box. Do you see a diretory C:\TC20? If you don't, your
Turbo C won't be able either. Try to make it.

Cheers
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I have this configuration in my DOSBOX.

Sorry, I don't understand. Do you have that directory? Can you create a
file there "by hand"?

Cheers


he seems to have the directory, does he have enough space to create the file

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Re: [OT] Re: Why /usr/sbin is not in my root $PATH ?

[Martin Smith]

On 24/02/2019 15:39, David Wright wrote:

On Sun 24 Feb 2019 at 08:57:37 (-), Curt wrote:

On 2019-02-24, Mart van de Wege  wrote:

Really, not using a clean, known environment as root is plain good
practice, and has been for years, if not actually decades.

Have you expressed the opposite of your intention here?

Often accidentally done.


A clean, known environment sounds like something in one of those Mormon
pamphlets.

You mean somebody actually reads The Watchtower

actually old chap thats the Jehovah's Witnesses scare sheet :)


Cheers,
David.




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Re: lenovo t410 - i915 - black screen

[martin smith]

On 09/10/2019 14:09, Greg Wooledge wrote:

On Wed, Oct 09, 2019 at 12:53:43PM +, Frederic Robert wrote:

On 10/9/19 12:38 PM, Greg Wooledge wrote:

On Wed, Oct 09, 2019 at 09:04:06AM +, Frederic Robert wrote:

How to find the card model? lspci?

lspci -nn

This will include the 8-digit hexadecimal PCI ID number, which is the
best indicator of what's actually inside the machine.


00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation Core Processor
Integrated Graphics Controller [8086:0046] (rev 02)

OK, good start... this seems to be a roughly 9-year-old chipset,
with a code name of "Arrandale".

However, googling "lenovo t410" from the Subject: header led me to
 which says:

Video chipsets:
  * Intel HD Graphics
  * 256MB NVIDIA® Quadro® NVS3100M

Does this machine actually have both Intel and Nvidia devices?  If so,
it's seriously bad news, and it indicates you may have to try (and
probably fail) to use the stuff from .

More likely, you'll end up disabling one of the devives at the firmware
level, and simply using the other.  But I'm not a laptop user, let alone
an Optimus laptop user, so I'm only relaying what I've heard from others.


I have a W520 with the same video, you can disable the nvidia in the bios

but its not obvious unless you spend some time reading it and pondering it

Re: *nix

[Martin Smith]

On 17/02/2020 18:52, mick crane wrote:

On 2020-02-17 16:29, Charles Curley wrote:

On Sun, 16 Feb 2020 22:07:59 -0500
Doug McGarrett  wrote:


(I fell off the stoop
after tripping over my dog's tether in the dark on the 4th of July,
1915, and spent most of the summer in various stages of recovery.)
Maybe some day I'll figure out how to dial a number on the phone.


I suspect that you find having to dial a phone a step backwards in
user interface technology.

For the young whippersnappers in the audience, telephone technology in
1915 required that one pick up the ear piece, wait for the operator to
acknowledge you, and tell her (it was usually a woman) to whom you
wished to speak. She would then connect you by re-arranging physical
patch cords to make physical connections.

And hope it wasn't a long distance call, which could take hours to set
up.


In the 50s I heard that you could tap out the number on the cradle in 
the public phone boxes and connect without inserting coins.
yes we discovered that and did it for a few months, not every day of 
course, until one day after tapping the number the operator came on the 
line and said please insert 4 pennies, that was the cost of a call in 
those days, so that was the end of it.


mick



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downloading the files using jigdo

[Martin Smith]

Hi,

i am currently using Windows XP home and wanted to use Debian to see 
what it is like, now i have got Jigdo, and i am not sure what files i 
have to download using and how to actully use Jigdo.


I have read the FAQs and the help documnet on the website but i am still 
confused on what i download and how to use Jigdo.


Could you please help me.

Thanks
Martin


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Re: Debian Live Lenny Beta1

[Martin Smith]

Johann Spies wrote:

On Mon, Sep 01, 2008 at 03:31:23AM +0800, Jerome BENOIT wrote:

Hello List,

Daniel Baumann wrote:

Daniel Baumann wrote:

Nevertheless, we do need your help to find more bugs and improve the
live systems, so please try them out.

particulary interesting would be to get reports from people with
Intel-based Apple hardware (both notebooks and desktops).


Do you want feedback on these lists?  I have tried the bugreport
system, but that seems to work with packages. How do I submit
bugreports on the debian-live-cd?

I have tried the amd64-version on a Lenovo R61 as well as on my
Macbook.  Maybe I should try the i386 on the Macbook because it did
not boot properly and I could not use the keyboard.


Just tried the i386 on my intel mini, no dice, keyboard not functioning
but, in startup disc in system preferences it is shown as foreign os and
allows booting, it gets to the splash screen no problem, if you could
get the keyboard to work it would probably go fine.
I have testing running fine in virtualbox.




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Re: [Fwd: Re: Debian Live Lenny Beta1]

[Martin Smith]

Michal Suchanek wrote:

On 02/09/2008, Jerome BENOIT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hello,

 note that the keyboard issue is a generic issue for (only first ?) Intel
Mac computer:
 some informations can be grabbed on refit site.
 A simple workaround would be to continue after a small lapse of time.

 Jerome


Yes, this is some bug in the bios emulation in the macs. The timeout
workaround should be mentioned on the wiki already. On some macs
(iMacs?) unplugging and replugging the keyboard seems to help but this
does not work for me on a mini with a USB->PS2 adabtor.


Same here with an intel mini, I originally had the (aluminium) kbd 
attached via

a powered usb hub, but removing it and attaching it directly to the machine
makes no diference, still I am game to try any patches that anyone can 
come up with.



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Re: grammar tool in linux ... perhaps in emacs

[Martin Smith]

H.S. wrote:

Hello,

I hope I do not start a flame war here. I was wondering what choices do
we have to check English grammar in Linux.

Now before all the purists jump to get their shotguns, pitch forks and
what not, I perfectly know that such a tool is not a substitute for
learning proper grammar. What such fanatics miss, IMHO, is that such a
tool aids in catching silly mistakes and helps significantly in proof
reading. So, having said this, I am curious if we have a grammar checker
in Linux which can be used with text editors. The most common scenario
for me would be if there is a package for emacs that works with LaTeX
(well, since emacs can do everything, I guess this should not be too
much to ask for ;)  ).


Well the last time I saw a grammar checker on a computer was in the days
of wordstar and dos 3.1, to call it crap would be an insult to crap.
I have no idea where it got it's rules from but it certainly did not
correspond to any form of english grammar, from either side of the atlantic
that I have ever come across.
I have never seen anything since.

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Re: squirrelmail plus g/pgp plugin == ?

[Martin Smith]

Eric d'Alibut wrote:

Is anyone running squirrelmail *and* the g/pgp plugin successfully?

On debian stable?

With apache 1.3?

The thing can't encrypt, and it has stopped signing now.  I know that
sounds weird and New Agey magical, but that's what happened!

Any feedback would be appreciated.

Cannot help you directly except to mention that there is a very good
sqmail users list, from their website.

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Re: oh no something is definitely wrong adieu debian.

[Martin Smith]

On 29/08/13 13:22, Ralf Mardorf wrote:

On Thu, 2013-08-29 at 12:09 +, Curt wrote:

On 2013-08-29, Chris Bannister  wrote:

On another note, would you go to your local beerfest and ramble on about
the dangers of alcohol? or go round to peoples' houses and ramble on
about some dead guy ... oops hang on.

He's at a Coorsfest saying sometimes he prefers Budweiser.

I can't find a translation for "Coorsfest" and there seems to be no
Coors beer. We do have very good beer in Germany, but AFAIK Budweiser is
a real Pils, perhaps not the exported versions, but Czechia is the
mother of good beer. I only will drink beer from Germany, Austria and
Czechia anything else isn't beer, an exception perhaps is Belgian beer,
assumed you prefer exotic beer flavour. Hopefully nobody does call e.g.
Guinness a beer :D.

That is because Guinness is a stout, which is not a beer!






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Re: Wheezy: exim4 + mailman it is not sending messages.

[Martin Smith]

On 30/08/13 19:18, lati...@vcn.bc.ca wrote:

Hello
i hope you can point me to a trusted doc to read, or tell me what to do.
I read a very rude message coming from the exim4's manteiner; mailman does
not have a man page, and the debian.README is not clear enough to catch
the procedure to make mailman to work.

I did the installation:
# apt-get install mailman OK

It said create mailman list OK
It said that i have to copy ##List aliases to /etc/aliases OK i did it
it said run # newaliases OK i did it

exim sent the creation list messages, but when a user is subscribed, the
user receives the confirmation message, then, replaying does not work. The
web subscription works correctly.

exim4 mainlog says:
R=system_aliases defer (-30): pipe_transport unset in system_aliases
router

README.debian mentions 2 different methods, but it is absolutely confuse.

Could somebody help please?

thanks so much.

OK, it seems that there is not at least 1 who use exim4+mailman; could you
please suggest something similar or better?


I have had mailman working with postfix (on FreeBSD) in the past, was
pretty straightforward and worked immediatley.
Can only suggest you spend some time with the mailman administrators
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Re: Display hurtful on LCD screen with Wheezy

[Martin Smith]

On 18/09/2012 22:52, Lisi wrote:

Hi, Lionel,

On Tuesday 18 September 2012 22:31:21 Lionel Trésaugues wrote:

I am experiencing a physical pain whenever I am in front of my
computer running either Debian (Wheezy) or Debian-based distributions
(such as Mint LMDE, XFCE or MATE edition). Switching from XFCE to MATE
doesn't lead to any improvements .

My eyes start to suffer and soon, I can feel that an headache is coming.

I sympathise, but I doubt that anyone else would be able to predict what you
need for your eyes.  That is such an individual matter.  Have you tried a
detailed analysis of the screen for all the distributions?

How important is it to you to be able to run Debian?  Would it be worth some
spectacles, or some new ones if you already wear them?  (This solution worked
for me.)

Have you tried any of the rpm distros?


I don't have this feeling at all when I am running either Ubuntu or
any Ubuntu-based distribution (Mint XFCE or Cinnamon edition).

But Ubuntu _is_ Debian based!  I don't like it myself, but if it solves your
problem, why not use it?


I tried to adjust the fonts using all the different combinations
available with dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig-config as well as playing
with the hinting and smoothing settings of the fonts without any
improvements.

It sounds to me more likely to be something to do with the refresh rate rather
than anything else.  A very slight difference could adequately  explain the
symptoms you are experiencing.
A minimum refresh rate of 72Hz is recommended (same as average human 
heart rate) to
minimize optical discomfort that you seem to be suffering. Less than 
that the screen will
often jump about and make it difficult to see properly. See if you can 
do something about

that.




Incidentally, do you know what changed immediately before this started to
happen?

Lisi





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Re: How to get Skype sound working on Wheezy (7.5, 64bit)?

[Martin Smith]

On 18/07/2014 17:08, Gary Dale wrote:

On 18/07/14 10:37 AM, Steve Litt wrote:

Hi all,

I installed Skype (4.3.0.37) just fine on Wheezy, but whether or not I
have Pulseaudio and pavucontrol installed, I get no sound and the person
at the other end can't hear my voice. I have to communicate via the IRC
like interface.

Probably related is the fact that pavucontrol's "Configuration" tab
says "no cards detected" or similar, and naturally therefore the input
tab lists no microphones, even though:

=
slitt@mydesq2:~$ arecord -l
 List of CAPTURE Hardware Devices 
card 0: Generic [HD-Audio Generic], device 0: ALC887-VD Analog
[ALC887-VD Analog] Subdevices: 1/1
   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 0: Generic [HD-Audio Generic], device 2: ALC887-VD Analog
[ALC887-VD Analog] Subdevices: 1/1
   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 1: U0x46d0x825 [USB Device 0x46d:0x825], device 0: USB Audio [USB
Audio] Subdevices: 1/1
   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
slitt@mydesq2:~$ aplay -l
 List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices 
card 0: Generic [HD-Audio Generic], device 0: ALC887-VD Analog
[ALC887-VD Analog] Subdevices: 1/1
   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 0: Generic [HD-Audio Generic], device 1: ALC887-VD Digital
[ALC887-VD Digital] Subdevices: 1/1
   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
slitt@mydesq2:~$
=

There's all sorts of BS about this on the Internet, but a lot
contradictory and a lot out of my computer's context. Anyone have an
idea of the next step?

Thanks,

SteveT

Steve Litt*  http://www.troubleshooters.com/
Troubleshooting Training  *  Human Performance
Unfortunately Skype doesn't seem to be very good at making their 
product work with Linux. My experience with it has been very hit and 
miss. Sometimes it works while other times it doesn't. It seems to 
depend on the exact version of Skype you are using and the exact 
libraries you have installed on your system.


I've even had it work with one microphone at one time but not with 
another microphone. Later it will work with the other but not the 
first. I don't think there is any general advice to get it working.


Conversely maintained open-source packages like Jitsi and Ekiga always 
seem to work but may not connect with Skype.


My advice is to ditch Skype and get everyone you know to do the same. 
It's propriety and uses its own protocols so it doesn't play well with 
others that use open protocols.
It is now owned by M$ so it is unlikely to get any more user friendly in 
the near future






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Re: Mounting a FreeBSD USB Memory Stick Image rw

[Martin Smith]

On 08/08/2014 16:52, Martin G. McCormick wrote:

Is it possible to mount the FreeBSD USB iso image on a
debian system? I need to edit one of the configuration files and
the nearest USB port is on a Debian system. The hope is to add a
line of text to a file, transfer the image to a USB drive and
boot the FreeBSD system from the memory stick for an
installation.
I did try
mount -t ufs -ro loop FreeBSD-9.1-RELEASE-amd64-memstick-headless.img /mnt


try mount -t ufs -rw -o ufstype=ufs2,loop 
FreeBSD-9.1-RELEASE-amd64-memstick-headless.img /mnt


specifying ufstype works with bsd disks in the same machine so should 
hopefully work with yours.



first to see what would happen and it appeared to work but ls
/mnt throws an I/O error as does any operation on /mnt until one
umounts /mnt.

Thank you.

Martin McCormick



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Re: dd

[Martin Smith]

On 11/08/2014 12:16, Stephen Powell wrote:

On Mon, 11 Aug 2014 01:15:31 -0400 (EDT), Reco wrote:

While dd can be used to copy a directory, it cannot be used alone for
this task. Try this:

...

cp -a /var/www/* /media/lin50

This may work if there are no "hidden" files in the directory (files whose
names begin with a period), and if there are no files with embedded blanks
in their names, etc.  But as a more general approach, I suggest

cp -a /var/www/. /media/lin50

The above handles all of the aforementioned special cases.  This copies
the entire directory tree below /var/www, including subdirectories, which
I assume is the OP's intent.


pax will do the job, but you will need to install it:

cd /var/www
pax -rw . /media/lin50

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Re: Is zeitgeist safe?

[Martin Smith]

On 08/05/2014 14:59, Ralf Mardorf wrote:

On Thu, 2014-05-08 at 15:50 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:

Assumed Debian stable does fit to
your needs and you install security updates, then you have got the best
OS for a modern computer, that is available, regarding to Internet
security.

My apologies, some very smart people prefer FreeBSD. I do not have
enough knowledge regarding Internet security. Perhaps Debian stable
isn't the _best_ OS regarding to Internet security, but at least Debian
stable isn't bad.



I have used both FreeBSD and OpenBSD in servers, for the very tightest
security it is OpenBSD, but I have been using them for close on 20 years.

Debian stable makes a great desktop, better IMHO than any of its 
derivatives.


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Re: Is zeitgeist safe?

[Martin Smith]

On 08/05/2014 07:18, Theodore Alcapotaxis wrote:

- Original Message -
From: Stephen Allen
Sent: 05/08/14 08:37 AM
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Is zeitgeist safe?

They have too much to do even that - you gotta keep up to date on recent
news my friend. That's the problem with mass surveillance of the world,
too much data to analyze in real time.

Didn't the USA and Europe want to move up the economic value chain?

Isn't the US experiencing low and anaemic growth in jobs? and some countries in 
Europe have high rates of youth unemployment?

The US and European goverments could re-engineer, re-model jobs so that more 
and more youths could be employed to analyze big data collected under the mass 
surveillance programme.


Well we could certainly solve the youth unemployment problem worldwide 
with such a move,

then we could truly say "What a stupid civilization we live in!"

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Re: Tails

[Martin Smith]

On 16/05/2014 13:10, Weaver wrote:

On Fri, May 16, 2014 2:28 am, Артур Истомин wrote:

On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 09:42:27PM -0700, Weaver wrote:

Greetings all,

Is there anybody on the list in Forteleza, Brazil?

There's a young, female, investigative journalist there, who wants to
install Tails onto a USB stick, with a persist partition, but she hasn't
got the slightest idea of how to go about it.

Any father figures up for a free gig?
Cheers!

Drop me her photos. I am ready to travel for the young Brazilian female
right now. Even from Russia =)



Never mind.
I'll do up a USB drive and send it to her.
It would get there quicker if you know someone who is going out there 
and can post it internally
in which case it might get there in a couple of weeks. My personal 
experience of posting anything
out there from any other country is that it takes at least 3 weeks, 
often longer, and when I had a
mini display port to hdmi cable sent out a year or so ago we had to pay 
200% of its value in import

duty.
Anyway good luck, sorry I am not going out again till next year.




She would just unravel your genetic code, and leave you crying in the
streets of the Barrio, Art. Nothing but a broken programme.
Trust me, I'll save you the pain.
Cheers!

Weaver.




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Wheezy installer problems

[Martin Smith]

I downloaded today an AMD64 wheezy CD1, a couple of problems:
It locks up on detect network hardware, and if I try an expert install 
and avoid the network bit it gets as far as starting up the partitioner 
40% and stops again.


It is 
http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/wheezy_di_beta1/amd64/iso-cd/debian-wheezy-DI-b1-amd64-CD-1.iso


On a Sony Vaio VGN-SR41M which actually runs squeeze, very nicely, but 
on another drive.


Are there any workarounds for this errant behaviour? Or do I have to 
wait for a fix?


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Re: Wheezy installer problems

[Martin Smith]

On 23/08/2012 17:58, Brian wrote:

On Thu 23 Aug 2012 at 17:21:38 +0100, Martin Smith wrote:


I downloaded today an AMD64 wheezy CD1, a couple of problems:
It locks up on detect network hardware, and if I try an expert
install and avoid the network bit it gets as far as starting up the
partitioner 40% and stops again.

It is 
http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/wheezy_di_beta1/amd64/iso-cd/debian-wheezy-DI-b1-amd64-CD-1.iso

On a Sony Vaio VGN-SR41M which actually runs squeeze, very nicely,
but on another drive.

Are there any workarounds for this errant behaviour? Or do I have to
wait for a fix?

Please read some of the posts in debian-boot for the past week or so.
I'll start you off with this one:

http://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2012/08/msg00483.html



Thanks for that info!

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Re: Wheezy installer problems

[Martin Smith]

On 23/08/2012 19:23, Brian wrote:

On Thu 23 Aug 2012 at 19:01:52 +0100, Martin Smith wrote:


Thanks for that info!

Depending on the newness of the hardware you may be as well off with an
image from

http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/wheezy_di_alpha1/

It doesn't have the problem of the beta. Love the ceramics.


OK, that should work fine with this machine, and thanks, the pots and 
tiles love to be looked at.


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Re: Login failure after new install

[Martin Smith]

On 09/08/2015 19:29, Cobra wrote:

The whole problem is that I have not received ANY mail in response
to my original post. Because my original post included my return
email address I expected the responses would be mailed to me. When
none arrived by the end of the day I checked the web page:

lists.debian.org/debian-user/2015/08/threads.html

and found replies had been posted. I check to see if my ISPs spam filter
was overzealously quarantining the replies. It was not. With no mail message
to reply to I proceeded to interact via the web page with the obvious
problematic results.

As an aside, the OS X mail client does behave as described I the quoted
passage, but this only affects the display and organization of messages in
the client’s mail folders. To the best of my knowledge it does not affect the
functionality of the normal reply-to mechanics nor is it the cause of my 
difficulties
with interacting with the mailing list, but I could be wrong.


I have always found that Thunderbird handles usenet much better than 
Mail, it

is almost as good as slrn.
But the world moves on doesn't it, for me Thunderbird has taken over 
from mutt and slrn

because all my day to day work gets done on this iMac.

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Re: pptp-based vpn

[Martin Smith]

On 12/08/2015 14:56, Lisi Reisz wrote:

On Wednesday 12 August 2015 14:04:37 marti...@suddenlink.net wrote:

   Now think, for a second how much money it costs to outfit
a van with high-quality broad-spectrum radio receivers, a person to
drive and another to tune and evaluate what he/she is receiving
and whether or not it is from a TV tuner or Heaven knows what
else.

They have a much simpler solution.  They barely bother with the vans (they
exist, I believe, though I have never seen one).  They see a house.  They see
an electoral register.  They assume a television.  They check for a licence.
No licence?  They assume criminality.  And start bullying.

I suffer from them, I haven't had a tv since 1971, and they can't let go,
now if we displayed the same paranoia in our interactions with others 
around us

accusing them of owing us money when they do not, the it is highly likely we
wound get committed under the mental health act.

  


If you insist that you haven't got a television, they do seem to make some
sort of effort to check, because I have not been in prison.  But they
continue to bully you.  After all, you might buy or be given one.  If you buy
it from a shop, the shop has to tell the authorities, but you might buy one
on eBay or from a neighbour.

And you underestimate the cost, both in money terms and to society.  Let us
take the  clichéd typical non-licence buyer: a single mother on a very low
income.  When she goes to prison for non-payment of her licence, her children
go into care.  Those children are almost inevitably damaged by our
so-called "care" system, and society then has, often monetarily expensive,
problems for years to come.

The care alone, even were there no societal cost, costs several orders of
magnitude more money than the £145.50 cost of a TV licence.  The trial alone,
too, will have cost more than that!  Then there is the cost of keeping her in
prison.
that is the problem, we have to punish sinners, we are after all 
obsessed with it
I am led to believe it demonstrates our righteousness, but that is not 
my opinion.




And will she pay her TV licence next year?  Probably not, because she still
will chose to feed her children if she hasn't got enough money for both.  And
when she looks for a job, when her youngest child starts school, she will
have difficulty getting one because she has a criminal record.

Lisi

Re: Configure Postfix *as* a smart host?

[Martin Smith]

On 30/08/2015 00:13, Bob Bernstein wrote:
I have an instance of Wheezy running on a VPS (for years) and only now 
have decided I want to take advantage of the possibility of using it 
as a smarthost for my home machines, instead of what my cable company 
makes available, which I confess works just fine.


For example, I have a Jessie system here at home running Alpine, which 
is very flexible in how one may specify an SMTP host. Of course, I 
don't need authentication (or the "submit" port) to use my cable 
company's smarthost. But when I point alpine at my VPS for smtp 
services (as it were) it tells me that authentication is not offered, 
this despite my following to the letter (or so I thought) the 
directions for setting up SASL on Postfix.


I have cleared the way for port 587 "both ways" on both the VPS and on 
my home router. Here's what happens (with phonied-up data):


$ telnet boris.fuzzywuzzy.com 587
Trying 12.34.123.123...
Connected to boris.fuzzywuzzy.com.
Escape character is '^]'.
220 boris.fuzzywuzzy.com ESMTP Postfix (Debian/GNU)
^]
telnet> quit
Connection closed.

Not a hint of the Postfix config I've done, under the inspiration,
mostly, of this page:

http://postfix.state-of-mind.de/patrick.koetter/smtpauth/smtp_auth_mailservers.html 



Extra-Credit question: why does debian ship postfix with an empty
/etc/postfix/sasl directory?


Thanks,

You might find more answers at www.postfix.org, they also have a very 
good mailing list,

which I can recommend

Re: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer

[Martin Smith]

On 15/10/2015 06:34, rlhar...@oplink.net wrote:

Yesterday in the office of my associate, I tried without success to
install a HP LaserJet 2100TN in a wired local area network (LAN)
consisting of nothing but a i386 running Windows 8, a modem (which I think
also is router) and an ethernet switch.

Through Control Panel, I learned that the computer had ip address
192.168.100.3.  The HP2100 printed a configuration report which indicated
an ip address of 192.168.1.201.

It occurred to me to use telnet to access the printer and reconfigure the
ip address.  But the Windows command prompt did not understand "telnet".


with most laser printers you can access their control interface with a 
browser,
just connect your laptop directly to it and point your browser at the 
address the printer gives,
this is assuming it does not have a front panel you can access, I dont 
off hand know the 2100.
You will need to adjust the subnet on your laptop of course, but that is 
all.




Thereupon I connected directly to the printer a laptop running Jessie
(with Xfce desktop), using an ethernet cable.  NetworkManager Applet
(0.9.10.0) did not make a connection.

I though that perhaps a "cross-over" ethernet cable might be required, so
I placed an ethernet switch and two "straight" cables between the laptop
and the printer; but again NetworkManager Applet (0.9.10.0) failed to make
a connection.

So first of all I would like to know whether it is possible to connect a
computer directly to a printer without a router to manage the connection.

And then I would like to know the proper way to reconfigure this printer.
If the "modem" indeed has an internal router with DHCP server, then I
think that the printer should utilize DHCP.

At the moment I am ignorant concerning the modem and/or router, because
they are hidden behind desks and boxes, so that visual inspection is going
to necessitate moving things in the office, which my associate is not
going to enjoy.

Russ

Re: make system boot straight to browser connection

[Martin Smith]

On 16/10/2015 01:46, Joel Rees wrote:

On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 5:29 PM, Richard Owlett  wrote:

Richard Owlett wrote:

[snip]

How to do an autologin? In a DE independent way?

http://manpages.debian.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=autologin&apropos=1
gave no relevant links.

A Google search gave only decade old or DE related links.

I currently use Mate, but exploring other desktops(avoiding Gnome
3!!!;}.
I'd like something similar to autoexec.bat from DOS/CPM days.



I received two suggestions, neither suitable:
   1. nodm was recommended by the ??? who has publicly stated that he ignores
  how I phrase my questions.

NO, NO, NO!

Brian is just trying to tell you you are asking the wrong questions!

How much EASIER it would be if you would only give in to the
inevitable coming standardization on systemd.


   2. runt was also suggested. I chased down a series of links but didn't see
  how to apply it to my preferences.

Brian is right about one thing, the various DEs are not unified on
this particular point.  Whether we should accept his implicit
assertion that systemd will (ultimately) unify the DEs (and servers
and IoT devices) on all things technical, well, I won't touch that
today.


Prior to my post I had done a web search for "autologin". I did another with
[I assume] slightly different criteria. I suspect "DE independence" may not
be achievable.


Well, not exactly. Consider the differences between Android 4 and
Android 5 on this exact point.

One problem is that some kiosk mode techniques assume that you really
don't want to login at all, where others will require you to make a
choice of which user login to auto-login as.

(If you used Mac OS X, autologin is an option in the user management
control panel, or, at least, it was up until 10.4. It was a radio
button in the control panel where you changed passwords, etc. Required
authentication.


it still is an option in 10.11



Android, on the other hand, up until Android 5, made up an ephemeral
user, so-to-speak, but it wasn't really ephemeral, and it basically
put all control over logging in into the hands of the manufacturer
(and carrier).

It's a seemingly simple question with big implications in the marketplace.

I know Android 5 changed, but I haven't bought a device to look at it
yet. Money is tight here. Likewise, I'm unfamiliar with iOS and Mac OS
since 10.5, etc.)

Re: Prob activating Samba

[Martin Smith]

On 23/11/2015 19:40, Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI wrote:

On Mon, 23 Nov 2015 14:18:07 -0500
Dan Ritter  wrote:


OK Ta; changed the CL to what you gave me:
root@ron:/home/ron # chkconfig --add smb
smb: unknown service
Just checked in Synaptic, have both Samba, Samba-common and Samba-common-bin 
installed.

That's probably because the name of the service is samba, not smb.
Try:
chkconfig --add samba

OK thanks, that worked.

Has let myself be misled by 
http://microdevsys.com/wp/networking-sharing-folders-between-windows-and-linux-using-samba/
 which uses smb as the name...  ;-3(


actually on my *BSD samba servers it is smbd amd nmbd
  
Cheers,
  
Ron.

Re: running etch on AMD Duron 1200 chip

[Martin Smith]

On 06/01/2016 18:34, Michael Fothergill wrote:

Dear Folks.

I am running Debian etch on an old AMD Duron 1200 box.

It's so long since I used it I can't remember if it must be running 
the 32 bit version of Debian ie 64 bit version cannot run on it?


uname -m says i686 which makes me think it is 64 bit.
unlikely, I think Duron's were pre 64 bit chips, but I could be wrong 
and someone will correct me if that is the case.


Is that correct?

​Comments appreciated

Regards

Michael Fothergill

Re: Good keyboard

[Martin Smith]

On 11/02/2016 06:22, rlhar...@oplink.net wrote:

On Wed, February 10, 2016 11:00 pm, David Niklas wrote:

If I'm remembering rightly, a while back (months), there was a
discussion about keyboards. I noticed this one and wanted to know if it

https://www.crowdsupply.com/ugl/ultimate-hacking-keyboard

To add a bit of perspective, can you visualize what such ergonomic design
might do for the piano?

The essence of a keyboard is found in the keyswitch -- the plunger and the
contacts.

A good plunger is not lubricated and does not bind even if the key is
struck at an angle.  Any external lubricant eventually wears through.

Good contacts do not bounce.

Good contacts do not fail because of oxidation or exposure to common
atmospheric contaminants such as moisture, ammonia, and oil vapour.

Gold is not necessarily the best contact material for very low voltage and
current, because oil vapour can form an insulating film (a polymer, if I
recall correctly) on gold.  I think that it was Honeywell which published
a report on this matter.  For a quality keyswitch, a wiping silver contact
may be a better choice.
Rhodium may be better, but probably a lot more expensive, we used it a 
lot in difficult conditions
at sea and in other dirty environments, even in the 70's it was about 3 
times the price of gold,

but reckoned to last for years




Russ

Re: Windows Shares Abound Continuously

[Martin Smith]

On 28/02/2016 01:21, Steve Matzura wrote:

Just when I thought it was safe to let my Debian 8.2 system alone for
a few days, I started getting emails from users of the service I
provide which uses that system that they could not access any content
on the shared-mounted drives on one of my Windows machines. Sure
enough, I tried an 'ls' and got "cannot access {name of remote shared
folder}: Remote I/O error".

Thinking this has *got* to be a Windows problem, I rebooted
everything, and everything came back. But within an hour, the remote
I/O error came back, too. Might there be something in dmesg I could or
should look for? Is mounting a Windows shared drive or directory a
problem, and if so, should I go to something else, and what would that
be?



Ever since Windows 3.11 its networking has been just awful and prone to
malfunction without notice, they originally lifted the network stack from
FreeBSD but managed to completely screw it, and it is still awful now, both
in sharing and even trying to find shares.
You would probably be better off putting all that stuff on a samba share
on a nice Debian box, you would be much more likely to get a good nights 
sleep.


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Re: Windows Shares Abound Continuously

[Martin Smith]

On 29/02/2016 00:13, Steve Matzura wrote:

Martin:

On Sun, 28 Feb 2016 08:44:07 +, you wrote:


Ever since Windows 3.11 its networking has been just awful and prone to
malfunction without notice, they originally lifted the network stack from
FreeBSD but managed to completely screw it, and it is still awful now, both
in sharing and even trying to find shares.
You would probably be better off putting all that stuff on a samba share
on a nice Debian box, you would be much more likely to get a good nights
sleep.

I have a fine Synology NAS box where everything just works, so I think
that's what I'm going to do--move that content onto the NAS and be
done with it. Now I wish I had put bigger drives in that thing! LOL.
well bigger drives in due course Steve, looks like you are headed in the 
right direction :)

leave windows sharing and windows server to the committed masochists.


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Re: Password protecting grub

[Martin Smith]

On 17/03/2016 04:55, Adam Wilson wrote:

On Wed, 16 Mar 2016 23:12:06 +0530 Himanshu Shekhar
 wrote:


Ok! I understand GRUB password and other such passwords are
ineffective. I am also aware of the fact that hard drive can be read
anywhere unless it is encrypted.
The am eager to know a particular way (however bad it may be) to
secure a system, which I have not known yet.

A BIOS password and full disk encryption.



on all the older machines that I used to make if you had physical access
to the machine you could lose the bios password quite easily with a jumper
or a screwdriver, I dont know what the more modern motherboards are like
but surely they could also be similar...

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Re: Live CD - boot option for static IP?

[Martin Smith]

On 03/04/2016 10:46, Ron Leach wrote:

List, good morning,

Is there a way to set a static IP at the boot dialog when starting 
from a Live CD?


I've got a Wheezy server that is a bit broken and I'm trying to run a 
Wheezy live CD so that I can see what's gone wrong.  The Live CD 
starts perfectly, so the machine will boot and, though it doesn't come 
up in a GUI it does so in text mode, though the text is badly 'offset' 
to the left so the first 3 or 4 character columns are not on the 
screen.  Apart from that, the server is an a very awkward location and 
for these reasons (and others) I'd prefer to login into the live 
system using SSH.  The live CD defaults to DHCP but I need to give it 
a specific IP in the 192.168 range.  If possible, I'd like to do that 
using the 'edit' option on the Live CD's boot screen, so that Wheezy 
live comes up - in text is fine - with a specific IP address and 
gateway etc.


I've searched around a bit and, though I couldn't find a list of Live 
CD 'boot options' on a Debian page, some other pages suggest there are 
kernel options that Grub might use for setting static IP, but these 
are variously described (net= , ip= ).  Which of these, or another, 
should be used, and the fields to be added (and the separators etc), 
are none too clear.


Is there a 'boot option' that I can add to the Live CD boot command 
line that will let me set a static IP?


cant you get your router to issue a fixed adddress based on the mac 
address, I do that with all my machines,
but of course you may not have the same arrangement as we have here in 
the UK




If there is, where should I be looking for the definitive syntax of 
the IP address setting?


I'd be very grateful for any advice

regards, Ron

Re: What is cisco-sccp?

[Martin Smith]

On 03/04/2016 20:06, Erwan David wrote:

Le 03/04/2016 21:04, Gábor Hársfalvi a écrit :

How could I know what program uses the port 2000?


you can use netstat or lsof -i:2000

But the fact the port is mentionned  in /etc/services does not mean at
all it is used.



indeed, /etc/services lists just about everything that can run tcp or udp
and the appropriate port(s), but just because it is there does not mean
it is running...

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Grub error 17

[Martin Smith]

I am new to debian and have just installed sarge on to a 160g sata disk
on an Asus P5P800, when it came to installing grub I wnt for the choice
of installing it on that disk but it said it ws not able to, so I let
it install on the primary master which has win2k, however on a restart
I just got grub error 17 and then nothing
No problem restoring the windows bootsector and I have installed grub
on a floppy, but I would rather have it on one of the internal drives.
Can anyone point me in the right direction to rectify this.

A second problem, I installed X and kde, which also installed the
2.6.x kernel, if I try to boot from that it panics over /dev/console
not found, any clues in that direction would be useful

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Re: Grub error 17

[Martin Smith]

Clive Menzies wrote:

> On (02/08/05 13:45), Martin Smith wrote:
>> I am new to debian and have just installed sarge on to a 160g sata disk
>> on an Asus P5P800, when it came to installing grub I wnt for the choice
>> of installing it on that disk but it said it ws not able to, so I let
>> it install on the primary master which has win2k, however on a restart
>> I just got grub error 17 and then nothing
>> No problem restoring the windows bootsector and I have installed grub
>> on a floppy, but I would rather have it on one of the internal drives.
>> Can anyone point me in the right direction to rectify this.
> 
> You need to install grub on the MBR which is the one that normally boots
> windows.  In your menu.lst you need to chainload windows and make sure
> that the kernel and initrd.img are correctly referenced.
> 
> Can you post the output of:
> 
> cat /boot/grub/menu.lst
> cat /etc/fstab
> ls -l /boot
> 
> Or check the following out:
> 
> http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/Introduction.html
> http://www.troubleshooters.com/linux/grub/grub.htm
> 
Thanks very much, I found a cleaner solution, I removed the windows disk and
did a clean reinstall, amazing, in 40 minutes I had a working desktop, I
may add the windows disk back to the machine later, but for now this is
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Re: Video card not recognised

[Martin Smith]

On Sunday 07 August 2005 23:44, marc wrote:
> Hi
>
> I've installed Sarge (with the 2.6.82 kernel) on a P3 using DVDs.
>
> After installation, and entering KDE 3.3, I found that I only had
> 800x600 and 640x480 screen sizes available.
>
> When running dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86, the monitor has been
> identified correctly, but the video card - a Radeon 7000 with 64Mb - has
> not.
>
> By manually entering values into the dpkg-configure, I can achieve
> 1280x960 and 1024x768 options, but the refresh rate is only 60Hz.
>
> I note here:
> http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Hardware-HOWTO/video.html
> that the card is supported in XFree86 4.x.
>
> How do I "encourage" my installation to recognise the video card?

I have got the same card and this in my xfree86 config
Section "Device"
Identifier  "Generic Video Card"
Driver  "ati"
EndSection

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Kernel 2.6.8-2-686 panics

[Martin Smith]

I have installed kernel 2.6.8-2 686 on a newly installed sarge machine, P4 on 
an Asus P5P800, on startup the kernel panics saying /dev/console not found, 
however /dev/console exists, how can this situation be rectified.
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Re: Kernel 2.6.8-2-686 panics

[Martin Smith]

Chris Phillips writes: 

Hi Martin, 




I have installed kernel 2.6.8-2 686 on a newly
installed sarge machine, P4 on 
an Asus P5P800, on startup the kernel panics saying
/dev/console not found, 
however /dev/console exists, how can this situation

be rectified.


Have you just upgraded from a 2.4.27 to 2.6 kernel? Do
you have SATA disks? The change of SATA drivers from
the ide to SCSI layer caused similar problems.


Yes the install is on a sata disk, it works fine with 2.4.27, is there some 
kind of reconfiguration I can do to get this up and running? 




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Re: Kernel 2.6.8-2-686 panics

[Martin Smith]

David Huemer wrote:

I had this problem too and solved it like this:

When booting (with lilo) I appended root=/dev/sda1 (my root device under
2.4 was hda1) and checked if the kernel was able to mount the root
device. After successfully mounting the root device I booted up a Kernel
2.4 and changed the /etc/fstab from /dev/hdx to /dev/sdx everywhere
(please make a boot disk and backup your old fstab before!!!).

Voila booting Kernel 2.6 worked.

David

On Mon, 2005-08-15 at 08:04 +0100, Martin Smith wrote:

Chris Phillips writes: 



Hi Martin, 





I have installed kernel 2.6.8-2 686 on a newly
installed sarge machine, P4 on 
an Asus P5P800, on startup the kernel panics saying
/dev/console not found, 
however /dev/console exists, how can this situation

be rectified.


Have you just upgraded from a 2.4.27 to 2.6 kernel? Do
you have SATA disks? The change of SATA drivers from
the ide to SCSI layer caused similar problems.


Yes the install is on a sata disk, it works fine with 2.4.27, is there some 
kind of reconfiguration I can do to get this up and running? 
Thanks David, I will have a crack at that in a couple of days and see if 
I can get it to work



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