Re: Open Office 1.0.2 formats differently on different OSes
Dragan Cvetkovic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Gianfranco Berardi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Basic problem: The formatting of the page is different in Open Office for >> Windows than from Open Office for Linux. > > It's probably the same behaviour as it is in MS Word: your formating > depends on a lot of factors such as default printer, fonts installed, paper > size configured etc etc. Check yours and friend's configuration. As OOo does not save the exact formatting (i.e. line breaks and such) but only the actual text and formatting instructions (such as paragraph breaks etc.) it is quite normal that the resulting layout is not exactly the same on systems using e.g. different fonts. Although this may be unpleasant in some cases I think this cannot really be solved and is most certainly not a bug. The situation with M$ Word is far worse (and I don't think this happens with OOo) because formatting depends partly on the printer installed. This behaviour is truly annoying (and unpredictable) and could therefore be considered to be buggy. The only way around the problem with OOo is to make sure you have exactly the same font with the exact same metrics on all your systems. If you then still have problems you may have found a bug and should talk to the OOo people about it. Earlier StarOffice versions sometimes had problems with non-ascii characters not being mapped correctly between different charsets but I would suppose that the current OOo file format takes care of that. > If you want the same formating everywhere, use TeX :-) You would get the exact same problems with TeX or LaTeX if your fonts had different metrics on different systems. The reason this does not happen is that LaTeX usually uses fonts provided with the LaTeX- distribution which are the same everywhere. To really solve the problem (at least for printing) you need to use a file format that is not centered around the document structure (as are LaTeX and the OOo format) but is layout oriented like Postscript or PDF with embedded fonts. Ciao, Jens -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[OT] boot CD from grub?
Hi, this isn't exactly Debian related, but I didn't find a good place to ask, sorry. I have a system that won't boot from (SCSI-)cdrom when any IDE harddrives are configured in the BIOS (yes, this is very definitely a bug). This is somewhat annoying and I am looking for a workaround. As I do have a floppy disk drive I was thinking of booting Grub from a floppy disk and then chainloading on from the CD. Unfortunately, this does not seem to be supported by Grub. Has anybody found a way to make this work, or is there some other way to force booting from CD, bypassing the BIOS? Thanks for any hints or pointers... Ciao, Jens -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] boot CD from grub?
"deFreese, Barry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> From: Jens Grivolla [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> I have a system that won't boot from (SCSI-)cdrom when any IDE >> harddrives are configured in the BIOS (yes, this is very definitely a >> bug). This is somewhat annoying and I am looking for a workaround. > > This is not a bug, per se. The IDE bus will ALWAYS boot before SCSI in a > PC, there is no way around that. Unfortunately, probably your "easiest" > option would be to add or replace the SCSI CD-ROM with and IDE. There is a "boot from SCSI" option in the BIOS, it just doesn't work correctly. Adding IDE drives would be expensive (and I really don't need any other drives), and additionally I would need an extra IDE controller, so this is not an option. So I guess I'll just have to work around it (which can be a pain), apparently booting from a CD without BIOS-support is not possible. Ciao, Jens -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] boot CD from grub?
Shri Shrikumar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Thu, 2003-03-20 at 00:17, Jens Grivolla wrote: >> So I guess I'll just have to work around it (which can be a pain), >> apparently booting from a CD without BIOS-support is not possible. > > Have you tried xosl from http://www.xosl.org I havent used it in a while > but remember it having the capability to boot from cd. Thanks for the tip. Unfortunately it seems to only boot from IDE drives, but it is an interesting pointer in the right direction. Ciao, Jens -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: apt: exporting and importing list of installed packages
Paul Yeatman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> > Is there a way to dump my current selection to a file and read it back >> > later? I didn't find such an option in aptitude or any of the other >> > tools. > > dpkg --get-selections > Ok, this gives me a list of packages like " install" for installed packages, " deinstall" for packages marked 'c' in aptitude (which I have purged now). Packages marked 'A' in aptitude simply seem to not be in the list (they should get fetched automatically anyway). > dpkg --set-selections < It is not quite clear to me from the man-page what would happen to already installed packages. I suppose that set-selections only affects those packages that are actually in the list. I would then possibly need to make a diff between my wanted list and the actual result of `dpkg --get-selections` after installation. Thanks (to everybody else who answered, too). Ciao, Jens -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mouse not aligned in X
Hubert Chan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> "Kent" == Kent West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Kent> Just installed Woody. imps2 mouse on /dev/psaux works fine, except > Kent> that the "sweet spot" where the click takes place is off-centered > Kent> to the left of where the actual click is made by about the width > Kent> of a close button (the X in the upper right hand corner of a > Kent> window) in icewm. > > Try using the software cursor. In the video card Device section, add a > line that says `Option "SWCursor" "on"'. This causes XFree86 to draw > the pointer itself, rather than letting the video card draw it. I used to have the exact same problem and the solution given above seems to have fixed it for me. Ciao, Jens -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
apt: exporting and importing list of installed packages
Hi, I apparently have a lot of leftovers from old packages that did not get cleanly uninstalled, and am losing quite a bit of disk space for that. I would therefore like to do a fresh install (backing up /home and /etc), but using my current selection of packages (which I just carefully verified). Is there a way to dump my current selection to a file and read it back later? I didn't find such an option in aptitude or any of the other tools. Ciao Jens -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: using xpdf to open pdf files from galeon
Shri Shrikumar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > % telnet www.whatever.com 80 > GET /index.pdf > > but that only returns the PDF itself - no headers with Content-Type. try `wget -S ...` HTH, HAND, Jens -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MUA that supports MH-folders?
Hi, I have been using sylpheed but would like to change because of a few small inconveniences (e.g. no freely editable "From:", seemingly messed up line wrap in sylpheed claws, ...) However, I have been unable to import my Folders into any of the MUAs that claim to support MH (such as balsa, tkrat, ...) except exmh. My .mh_profile seems to be ok. I googled around, but nobody seems to have any problems. What am I doing wrong? All I want is to say "start from here and import the entire hierarchy". Thanks for any hints. Bye, Jens -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MUA that supports MH-folders?
Gerald Livingston <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Jens Grivolla <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I have been using sylpheed but would like to change because of a few > > small inconveniences (e.g. no freely editable "From:", seemingly > > messed up line wrap in sylpheed claws, ...) > > > > However, I have been unable to import my Folders into any of the MUAs > > that claim to support MH (such as balsa, tkrat, ...) except exmh. My > > .mh_profile seems to be ok. > > Sylpheed doesn't create the ".mh_sequences" in each MH folder that is > required by many MUA's. I discovered this when trying to access my > folders from remote via ssh/mutt. I just went in each folder and did a > "touch .mh_sequences" and mutt found them fine. Ok, I'm going to check that. > Also, in Sylpheed, just create a "local" account for each address that > you use. You can then select which account (address) the mail gets sent > from. That's what I do, but there's way too many of them. However I now found out that there are quite a few patches around that add important functionality such as "unlimited 'From:'". > My gripe is that you cannot associate an account to a specific > folder. Pegasus mail for Windoze let's you assosciate each from address > you have created to a folder so replying from that folder uses the > correct address (which can be changed from a drop-down). Haven't seen that in Sylpheed, but there might be a patch. Choosing the correct account for replies based on the header of the original message seems to work quite nicely though. Bye, Jens -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MUA that supports MH-folders?
Craig Dickson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > A simple shell script could use 'find' to get the filenames of all your > stored messages under ~/Mail (or wherever you keep it) and pipe them > through procmail to store them in your new mailboxes in whatever format > you like. That's what I did when I switched from mh to maildir. I had thought about that, too, but I don't really want to switch to mbox, which would be the format supported by most clients. Ciao, Jens -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MUA that supports MH-folders?
"Jack O'Quin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [switch to Gnus] > Gnus is a very complicated beast. It runs under emacs (or xemacs), so > you have to learn all that, too. I don't recommend it unless you need > heavy-duty mail-handling and are willing to spend some time learning > to use it. But, it'll do just about anything you want. And, it's > great for high-traffic mailing lists like this one. :-) Actually, I am reading this list with gnus (through news.gmane.org). ;-) I had been using vm for a while and finally didn't like it much, and setting up gnus for mail the way I wanted it didn't seem very straightforward or possible. For mail, I like to be able to easily push messages around between folders. Because I don't always exactly remember the hierarchy of folders I have, the easiest way is having it shown on screen and using the mouse in many cases. Ciao, Jens -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MUA that supports MH-folders?
Gerald Livingston <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > My gripe is that you cannot associate an account to a specific > folder. You can, with the freshly released sylpheed-claws 0.8.5 :-) Ciao, Jens -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MUA that supports MH-folders?
Chad Walstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Regarding Jens Grivolla's <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> question about > clients that read MH folder formats, you have a couple options. You > have already listed the GUI clients that I know of that work with MH, > the best supported being sylpheed and exmh. Yes, so it seems. > My first suggestion is to > place bug or feature requests with the sylpheed developers. I have just subscribed to the sylpheed mailing list and that does seem to be a good option as many patches are already there to tweak it the way I want. > The second > suggestion is to consider using nmh directly or even mutt. I use both > depending upon my mood. If I need to digitally sign anything, I'll pop > into mutt. Quick scanning of messages is best done with the nmh > commandline tools. Yes, I think I will do that additionally when I don't want to start X. Thanks a lot for your suggestions. Ciao, Jens -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: using exim for simple mail delivery
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robert Wilhelm Land) writes: > Does exim allow the config. of simple mail delivery > on the following system?: > > -One mashine, connected tmp. to the internet > -one user with only one email adress and > who likes to have his incoming mail sorted as: > +one inbox for each subscribed maillist > +one inbox for all the other mail So you want to _receive_ mail with exim on a machine that is only temporarily connected to the internet? This is possible if you know what you're doing (and have a permanently connected machine elsewhere that relays to you). However, it does not really look like this is the case (no offense meant). The "only one email address" part makes me think you really want to poll an external mailbox using POP3 or IMAP. Exim does not have anything to do with this, you need to use fetchmail or a MUA that does it. Fetchmail would usually use procmail as a MDA. > Unfortunately I can't figure out if mutt is able > to handle multiple inboxs on only one > email account. The mutt help only seems to discribe > the marking of maillist mail with the help of the 'lists' > definitions in ~/muttrc. Again, it is not clear what you mean by "only one email account". Once the mail is delivered on your system there are no mail accounts but different folders or spool files. Mutt can handle several mboxes or MH folders or similar somehow, however I don't usually use it and can't help you there. > I found this in ../exim/oview.txt: > " > There is support for multiple user mailboxes controlled by prefixes or > suffixes on the user name, either via the filter mechanism or through > multiple .forward files. > " > Does 'this' user name relate to the name I used when > logging in my debian system? It can but doesn't have to. However, this is really _not_ what you want. > People might advise me to have a look at procmail but yes > I thought of starting with a simple mail system > avoiding any additional programs which might > cause me to feel a bit helpless reading all those > man pages. The combination of fetchmail and procmail is very common and there is lots of easy documentation about it. HTH, HAND, Ciao, Jens -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: using exim for simple mail delivery
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robert Wilhelm Land) writes: > Jens Grivolla wrote: > > The "only one email address" part makes me think you really want to > > poll an external mailbox using POP3 or IMAP. Exim does not have > > anything to do with this, you need to use fetchmail or a MUA that does > > it. Fetchmail would usually use procmail as a MDA. > > I rather meant the sorting tasks, not the recieving. For more > please see below: I really don't think you use exim to receive mail (if you did you would explain the situation differently). So exim will not have anything to do with sorting your mail into folders. Ciao, Jens P.S.: please do not send mail copies to me personally, I read the list -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: The only thing I miss about Windows
John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > If I believed that there was anything "Socialist" about Free Software I > would cease contributing to it. Free Software without the concept of "giving what you can, getting what you need" is a rather strange thought. So strange that I suspect what you really need is to look up "socialist" in a dictionary. Ciao, Jens -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: using exim for simple mail delivery
David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Exim (or at least 3.35) can distribute mail to different mailboxes. If > I understand some of the posters in this thread, they have stated that > you cannot, but this is what I'm doing. Obviously it can. But you just don't want to use exim _at all_ to receive mail on a machine that is not permanently connected to the Internet (unless you really know what you're doing). Unfortunately, the OP has not posted to clarify the situation. Ciao, Jens -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: using exim for simple mail delivery
Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Tue, Oct 15, 2002 at 12:57:25PM +0200, Jens Grivolla wrote: > > Obviously it can. But you just don't want to use exim _at all_ to > > receive mail on a machine that is not permanently connected to the > > Internet (unless you really know what you're doing). > > Really? When did this change? I've been using exim on a config I've > only made minor changes to since I set it up four years ago. When did what change? Ciao, Jens -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: using exim for simple mail delivery
Mark Carroll <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On 15 Oct 2002, Jens Grivolla wrote: > > When did what change? > > That you need to really know what you're doing to use exim to receive mail > on a machine that is not permanently connected to the Internet, I'd guess, > Paul's implication presumably being that this wasn't previously the case. Oh, that. It never has been and never will be a good idea to use a MTA (this has absolutely nothing to do with exim) to receive mail on a machine that is not permanently connected to the internet, unless you have a very specific setup with another MX that will relay to you on demand. Setting up a MX that cannot usually reached is bad. Once you use a separate MX in a different location polling your mail is usually more convenient than initiating a queue run on the other server to relay to you. Since the OP wanted to use "exim instead of procmail" to have an *easy* mail setup this is quite clearly not the setup he was looking for. Ciao, Jens -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: using exim for simple mail delivery
Rob Weir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Mon, Oct 14, 2002 at 01:50:17PM +0100, Pat Colbeck wrote: > > "|IFS=' ' && exec /usr/bin/procmail || exit 75 #fredsmith" > > Good to do it explicitly, but Exim will automatically deliver using > procmail if you have a ~/.procmailrc The explanation was for fetchmail, not exim. And I still don't see how it would be a good idea to use exim to receive mail on a machine not usually connected to the Internet. Ciao, Jens -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: using exim for simple mail delivery
Anthony Campbell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > This seems very odd. I thought that Debian set up exim more or less by > default. Yes, that is because you need _some_ program at least for local mail delivery (system messages and such), although you don't really need a full-featured MTA (mail transfer agent) like exim, a MDA (mail delivery agent) like procmail would in theory suffice. > I was using smail when I first installed Debian several years > ago and then exim when that became standard; this is on a dialup account > (single user). It seems to work perfectly well. How could you send and > deliver mail without exim or another MTA? Can you point me to an FM > which explains this? You do use exim to send mail from your system elsewhere (unless your MUA (mail user agent) does this by talking to your ISPs mail server). By default you use exim also to send local mail (within your system). However, on a dial-up system you usually *do not* use exim to receive mail from the outside. Many people use either their MUA to retrieve mail via POP3 or IMAP (as can be done with kmail, balsa, sylpheed, ...) or they use a separate program such as fetchmail to fetch the mail using POP3 or IMAP and deliver it locally, possibly using a more sophisticated MDA like procmail to do some sorting and filtering. Therefore, in 99% of dial-up user settings exim does not have anything to do with receiving mail and therefore does not in any way contribute to sorting incoming mail into folders. In order to receive mail using exim you would need to have set up an MX record for your domein pointing to your machine on your nameserver, which is obviously not the case for the people who ask how to set up their mail filtering. Ciao, Jens P.S.: after writing this I checked again and saw that fetchmail does sometimes use exim to do the local delivery (possibly even by default). I was therefore wrong in claiming exim never intervenes in the process. However, using exim as MDA for local delivery with filtering is _much_ more complicated than using procmail for that purpose. In order to use procmail you only need to put: mda "/usr/bin/procmail -d %T" in your .fetchmailrc You can then set up filter rules easily in your .procmailrc (as a user) rather than configuring a (more or less) complicated mail transport system as root. I hope especially this latest addition does clarify the situation somewhat. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: using exim for simple mail delivery
David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Tue, Oct 15, 2002 at 12:57:25PM +0200, Jens Grivolla wrote: > > Obviously it can. But you just don't want to use exim _at all_ to > > receive mail on a machine that is not permanently connected to the > > Internet (unless you really know what you're doing). > > Why is this? I'm using it on a dialup account. Perhaps we are talking > about different usages here. What I do is retrieve my mail from my > ISP's mailserver using POP3 with fetchmail. As I said in my previous > post, using Exim for this purpose may be overkill, but AFAICT, it works.. Yes, I was thinking of using exim as a mail transfer agent speaking SMTP to other servers which is a very bad idea for receiving mail to a computer that is not permanently connected and possibly has a dynamic IP address. You are absolutely right that exim _can_ be used for local mail delivery (as MDA) and is used as such in many setups. However, procmail is much better suited for this job and I would therefore strongly recommend putting 'mda "/usr/bin/procmail -d %T"' in your .fetchmailrc to use it. Ciao, Jens -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: using exim for simple mail delivery
Jamin W.Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Tue, 15 Oct 2002 13:51:59 -0400 (EDT) Mark Carroll > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Then you're using fetchmail, not exim, to receive mail - it's just a > > matter of terminology. (Of course, exim performs the local delivery > > after'receiving' from fetchmail - that's quite normal.) > > Not necessarily, fetchmail can easily hand off the message to a MDA rather > than an MTA. Addendum: I have had a look at the different default configs (for Debian) now. Apparently, by default fetchmail uses the program called sendmail (which is exim) as MDA, unless told otherwise by putting a line with "mda " in the .fetchmailrc. Exim by default uses procmail to do local deliveries whenever a .procmailrc is present in the user's home directory, and does the delivery itself (i.e. writing to the corresponding spool file) when that is not the case. As filtering is much more easily configured using procmail, it is usually best to skip exim altogether to receive mail and use the fetchmail + procmail combination. Ciao, Jens -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: using exim for simple mail delivery
Rob Weir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Tue, Oct 15, 2002 at 04:15:21PM +0200, Jens Grivolla wrote: > > Rob Weir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > On Mon, Oct 14, 2002 at 01:50:17PM +0100, Pat Colbeck wrote: > > > > "|IFS=' ' && exec /usr/bin/procmail || exit 75 #fredsmith" > > > > > > Good to do it explicitly, but Exim will automatically deliver using > > > procmail if you have a ~/.procmailrc > > > > The explanation was for fetchmail, not exim. > > I was under the impression that the suggestion was: > POP3 server->local fetchmail->local exim->local procmail->spool Yes, I misunderstood you there, the .forward file is in fact unnecessary. Ciao, Jens -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: using exim for simple mail delivery
David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > As to why involve exim? You need an MTA installed for cron, etc, > anyway, so it may as well be exim.. And, although I've never tried to > set up fetchmail, some have said it was a wee bit more complicated than > exim, dunno about that.. Are you saying you use exim without fetchmail on a dial-up system? That rather surprises me. Ciao, Jens -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: exim configuration
Sandip P Deshmukh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > David A. Rogers wrote: > >Yes your machine could send mail directly. > > > how! that was my question. even after reading the nag chapters, i am > unable to handle this! ok, so here comes a setup (this needs to go in the routers section) that uses a smarthost for some domains that won't accept mail from dialup users and uses direct delivery otherwise: |smarthost: | driver = domainlist | transport = remote_smtp | route_list = "*.sourceforge.net smtp.my_isp.com bydns_a; \ |some.other.domain.org smtp.my_isp.com bydns_a" | host_find_failed = "fail_soft" | |direct_smtp: | driver = domainlist | transport = remote_smtp | route_list = "* $domain bydns" note that the order is important, i.e. the router labelled smarthost will be tried first, if the recipient domain was not matched or the smarthost was not found (that's what the "fail_soft" is for) it will try the next router. You need to understand that directors are used for local addresses whereas routers are used for remote mail, trying each router until one matches the conditions (route_list). HTH, HAND, Jens -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: exim problem solved. how do i configure mozilla?
Sandip P Deshmukh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > now, i changed smtp server in my mozilla to 192.168.100.21 - my > machine's ip address. it is unable to deliver message. the error i get > is: > > an error occured while sending mail. the mail server responded: > relayin to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> prohibited by > administrator. (failed to find hostname from ip address). please check > mail receipients and try again You don't allow relaying for your computer. Using localhost (or 127.0.0.1) instead of 192.168.100.21 as your SMTP-server in mozilla might fix it. But you should take a look at everything related to "relay" in the config file and the exim docs anyway to understand what this is about. Hint: you probably allow relay for localhost but not for 192.168.100.21. Since you address the server not on its local address but the one bound to its NIC (network interface card), the mail doesn't seem to come from localhost (127.0.0.1). > curiously, mail can be sent using mail address command. It uses exim directly, not through SMTP. Ciao, Jens -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: any suggestions on mail client?
Dale K Dicks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [Fullquote snipped] > apt-get install evolution :) it is an outlook clone. Coincidence? Well, at least he didn't top-post. Ciao, Jens P.S.: sorry if this reply sounds a bit harsh, but the correlation between Outlook and badly formatted (up to unreadable) mails is really annoying -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Exim and SMTP on an internet gateway
Stephen Gran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Note that since 10.0.0.2 will fail MX lookups, you'll > want to specify this route as 10.0.0.2 byname in that section, rather > than bydns_a. AFAIR bydns_a uses DNS to look up the corresponding A record, not MX, so it is almost the same as byname in most cases (when you specify the host name). However, you are absolutely correct that in order to use the IP address directly, "byname" needs to be used. Ciao, Jens -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
dockable apps for icewm?
Hi, I have been using Icewm with a nice and lean theme for quite a while now and find it very nice. However, I have been unable to find any applications that would dock in the taskbar (except for the network, mail, and APM monitors that come with it). There seem to be tons of applets out there for Gnome, Windowmaker, or KDE, but none for Icewm. :-( The things I would really like to have are: - ICQ (possibly a licq frontend) - an ACPI monitor - a keymap selector Does anybody know of such applets? If those do not exist, it might be easy to adapt existing applets to make them icewm-compatible. Does anybody have any experience with icewm-programming and could point me to some documentation on this (I will be looking for it myself but haven't got around to do so yet). Ciao, Jens -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: dockable apps for icewm?
"Karl E. Jorgensen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Wed, Nov 06, 2002 at 06:00:25PM +0100, Jens Grivolla wrote: > > Does anybody know of such applets? > > There aren't any applets; icewm's architecture is radically different > from e.g. Gnome. > > Much of the "lightness" in icewm comes from the fact that it runs as a > single process, whereas e.g. gnome runs one process per panel (and > typically yet another process per applet). Everything that icewm does is > built into that process. Yes, that is the impression I got looking for documentation on the web. > You should be able to hack the source; beware though that even though it > is somewhat nicely structured, it does not allow for adding/removing > elements at run-time. No, I don't think I want to hack those things directly into the icewm source. I think I will be switching to a different WM. Unfortunately most themes for other WMs are totally overloaded and bloated, and I really don't need a complete desktop environment. Ciao, Jens -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: dockable apps for icewm?
Eduard Bloch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Jens Grivolla schrieb am Wednesday, den 06. November 2002: > > - ICQ (possibly a licq frontend) > Psi, with mimize+occupy-all-desktop is good enough for me. I am using licq and would much prefer to have it docked. Possibly, psi is more suitable when not using a dock. > > - an ACPI monitor > It has a APM baterry monitor (percentage in the taskbar), someone should > rewritte it for ACPI. I hope it will be done. > > - a keymap selector > Why? Bind the setxkbmap command to some key-combinations and forget the > issue (ie. Alt-F11, Alt-F12). You are right, although it is sometimes nice to have a visual indicator of what the current setting is. > > Does anybody know of such applets? > No applets in icewm, and this is okay so. I even do not like the time > that icewm-gnome needs to scan the gnome-menues at startup. Useless > bloat. Do you really think just having the possibility to dock apps would lead to much bloat? I am certainly not doing a rewrite of icewm to add that feature, though. Ciao, Jens -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: dockable apps for icewm?
Dave Thayer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Fri, Nov 08, 2002 at 08:26:25PM +0100, Jens Grivolla wrote: > > I think I will be switching to a different WM. Unfortunately most > > themes for other WMs are totally overloaded and bloated, and I really > > don't need a complete desktop environment. > > Blackbox is fairly lightweight, and has a 'slit' which will swallow > wmaker dock apps. I will try it. I just hope it doesn't use too much screen space. Ciao, Jens -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: dockable apps for icewm?
Rob Weir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Tue, Nov 12, 2002 at 02:59:38PM +0100, Jens Grivolla wrote: >> Dave Thayer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> > Blackbox is fairly lightweight, and has a 'slit' which will swallow >> > wmaker dock apps. >> >> I will try it. I just hope it doesn't use too much screen space. > > The slit, IIRC, only uses up the space required by the apps inside it. > If you decide to use some of the blackbox apps, most of them take a '-t' > option for tiny; it's very useful. Thanks, that might prove handy. I am currently using blackbox on one of my computers with the default theme + bbkey, licq and gkrellm in the slit. While licq and gkrellm need a certain width to be usable (no tiny mode), I don't feel that the screen gets too cluttered (and it looks cool ;). Thanks to everybody for their suggestions. Ciao, Jens -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
SVG-based presentation program?
Hi, I am looking for a good presentation program (something like PowerPoint) for Linux. So far I have been using mostly Star- /Openoffice which is kind of OK, but would be interested in alternatives. I have been using LaTeX (which I use for word processing), too, but I don't think it is really the most appropriate tool for making slides. I think that using SVG might be good in order to have an open format that can be used for beamer-presentations, slides, as well as web publishing. Some quick googling showed me that such solutions do exist, but I'd like some recommendations before I try them wildly. Do you think that using SVG is a good idea? If so, what good (easy to use) authoring tools are there? Ciao, Jens -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SVG-based presentation program?
Alvin Oga <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > http://www.mew.org/mgp/ Thanks, it looks like it has some nice templates that come with it (or at least one), which is important to me. However, it uses a proprietary format (though it is pure text, which is nice) and I do not find much documentation as to what it can do (transitions, etc.) Ciao, Jens -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SVG-based presentation program?
Hubert Chan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >>>>>> "Jens" == Jens Grivolla <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Jens> Hi, I am looking for a good presentation program (something like > Jens> PowerPoint) for Linux. > > There are several packages for making nice slides with LaTeX. The best > one I've seen so far is prosper (available as a Debian package). If you > use Acrobat Reader as your viewer, you get a few nice transitions too > (although I personally find transitions a waste of time). Very nice. I might seriously reconsider using LaTeX, especially because formulas are really a pita when using anything else. So far I had only been using the "dull kind" of LaTeX slides, having nice templates makes all the difference for me. I will have to look at the possibilities of the Acrobat Reader, too, unfortunately there doesn't seem to be a dual screen mode as I recently saw with somebody's PowerPoint presentation. > Jens> Do you think that using SVG is a good idea? If so, what good > Jens> (easy to use) authoring tools are there? > > sodipodi (available as a Debian package) is the only Linux-based editor > I know of. It looks pretty nice (according to the web page), but isn't of course optimized for slide presentations. I will keep it in mind though as a vector graphics program. > The situation looks even worse for viewers, though. Mozilla's SVG > support is not very good, and you would probably need to build it > yourself, since the Debian packages (and the mozilla.org binaries) don't > include it. There is a beta version of Adobe's plugin, though, that you > may be able to make work. The Adobe plugin is working here with Mozilla/Galeon. But of course this is far from being a good presentation program. Ciao, Jens -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X problem: mouse pointer shifted
Hi, I have a problem on my Acer TM210 laptop with integrated ALi (Trident) graphics (sorry, I don't have the exact name, it doesn't seem to show anywhere) on XFree86 4.2.1.1, but also on older versions. Regularly, after some time, the mouse pointer will shift and then be shown around 100 pixels to the right of the actual position (i.e. it will stop before reaching the left screen border and mouse clicks are to the left of the shown pointer position). It will sometimes switch back after a few hours. Has anybody experienced those problems, and is there a fix? TIA, ciao, Jens -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] boot CD from grub?
Shri Shrikumar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Tue, 2003-03-25 at 00:11, Jens Grivolla wrote: >> Thanks for the tip. Unfortunately it seems to only boot from IDE >> drives, but it is an interesting pointer in the right direction. > > What about http://www.nu2.nu/bootdisk/cdrom/ > > I dont think it is GPL though. Thanks a lot. Unfortunately, it seems it doesn't actually boot from CD but rather boots DOS with CD drivers installed, and Knoppix e.g. cannot be loaded directly from there (however, one can easily make a Knoppix boot floppy). Since Debian and M$ boot-CDs can be started from DOS this solution is good enough, I don't think I'll look any further for the "real thing". So, thanks again for your help. Ciao, Jens -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: X problem: mouse pointer shifted
Faheem Mitha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Wed, 11 Dec 2002 16:06:27 +0100, Jens Grivolla wrote" >> Regularly, after some time, the mouse pointer will shift and then be >> shown around 100 pixels to the right of the actual position[...] > > Yes. From a post of mine dated 16th February 2002 in Debian user. > > > "I think you are the victim of the following bug, since your card is a > trident. > > http://sdb.suse.de/en/sdb/html/wessels_trident_mouse.html Yes, that sounds exactly like the problem I am having. > Try putting > Option "sw_cursor" > in your /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 in the video card section." Done. > Somebody really ought to add this to the X documentation. It has been > reported at least once to the Debian bug tracking system. Oh, I should have found it then. I guess I didn't use the right key words. Thanks, Jens -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Recommendation for dual head video card
David Z Maze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I suggest the second video > card approach because you can probably be happy for about US$20, > rather than having to spend US$200 or more for a professional-grade > video card with two independent video outputs. AFAIK, for around 60EUR you get something like a Radeon 7500 with dual-head support (one of which is DVI and needs an adapter for around 15EUR if you want to connect a regular VGA monitor). ATI is using Linux support as an advertising argument, so this should be a pretty safe bet. I have recently bought a Radeon 9000 (partly for that reason) for 78EUR but don't currently have a second screen to test it with. Ciao, Jens -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Headers in this ML
Richard Kimber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I would advise filtering on the X-Mailing-List: header, not To: or Cc:, > > if the latter is what you're doing. This should be reliable. > > Thanks, but there wasn't such a header in the message. No reference to > the list at all, yet at the bottom of the message there was the usual To > UNSUBSCRIBE etc. It's obviously a > one-off and not a basic change. I have noticed similar effects sometimes, it seemed to happen only with certain posters. Most mails would get filtered alright, but once in a while the headers were different. Unfortunately, I can't check anymore as I just deleted my archive, having switched to reading the lists through a mail2news-gateway. That way I don't have to bother about filtering at all anymore and have a direct access to the archive. If you could find the message-id of the mail that had different headers, people would be able to have a closer look. > A bit odd. Very much so. Ciao, Jens P.S.: this is the first time I post through the gateway (which is supposed to be bidirectional). If you reply could you confirm that this message is visible on the mailing list and not only in the corresponding newsgroup? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
