Re: Why does aptitude do this?
On Sat, 2006-02-18 at 21:29 -0800, Rob Blomquist wrote: > The following packages are unused and will be REMOVED: ... > How can I stop that from running? I don't want any packages removed from my > system unless I say so. Use the 'M' key to mark the packages as packages "M"anually marked -- that you want installed. When a package has been "A"utomatically pulled in to resolve a dependency such as on the Gnome and KDE meta-packages, it will display an "A" in its status column at the far left. You can switch any packages between these states at any time. -- Jason Clinton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Gnome desktop environment removed on Upgrading using synaptic
On Mon, 2006-03-06 at 15:38 +0530, Abhishek Verma wrote: > But, now my system has no desktop environment, and when I try to install > gnome-desktop-environment, it says that it can't install since > gnomemeeting is uninstallable. When I tried to install gnomemeeting, it > says that it can't install because it depends on libopenh323-1.18.0 > which is uninstallable. When I tried to look for the package libopen323 > version 1.18.0, it is nowhere to be found. The current version available > for this package is 1.15.6. Install this missing file using "dpkg -i " and all will be installable again: http://people.debian.org/~kilian/pkg-voip/libopenh323-1.18.0_1.17.4-1_i386.deb And here is how I fished for this information: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=353844 And here is the status of the above package in the ftpmaster's queue: http://ftp-master.debian.org/new.html -- Jason Clinton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Mathematica scroll problem
On Sun, 2006-02-19 at 13:08 +0100, VSJ wrote: > When I load a large Notebook (i.e., large enough to have an enabled vertical > scrollbar) or Help topic, and I scroll down and then up, the window > contents become unreadable/trashed. The only way to remedy this is to > maximise and then restore the window size to force a redraw. Did you turn on composite or renderaccell support? If so, they are experiemental and the cause of your problem. Turn them off. -- Jason Clinton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Is udev really 'optional'?
On Wed, 2006-03-08 at 17:43 -0500, Patrick Wiseman wrote: > Being on a laptop, I really need the functionality. Am I going to > have to give up the hotplug package or will it continue to be an > alternative to udev? I have been under the impression that udev is replacing hotplug permanently and that any ongoing development on hotplug will cease. So, I would say to stick with hotplug until udev stabilizes to your liking. -- Jason Clinton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: FW: slightly-OT: centralized user management
On Saturday 30 July 2005 09:15, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > Right. I am looking for something more cross platform. At least to > cover Windows and Linux and maybe Mac OS X. I am not familiar with > Windows networking, so I don't know what all the correct terminology is. > I just recall that at one place I worked everyone had laptops in docking > stations. If you logged into the Windows domain at least once a > particular machine, it would cache your login credentials and your > Windows equivalent of $HOME. The answer to all your problems lies in using OpenLDAP and pam_mount. I wrote a script that generates the .pam_mount.conf file in users home directories on Linux and on Windows, Samba serves up a roaming profile. It's a lot of work, though. -- I use digital signatures and encryption. My key is stored at pgp.mit.edu key ID code: "0x8DB3BF09". F: F628 D9D3 E57A C281 5EFE 7DF7 B52A A393 8DB3 BF09 pgpSkvYHKj4dI.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: FW: slightly-OT: centralized user management
On Saturday 30 July 2005 10:59, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > Cool. Would you consider posting it so I have a starting point? No > sense reinventing the wheel :-) Unfortunately, the script is owned by my employer so I can't share it. But all I did was set up OpenLDAP, use the Official Samba HOWTO to configure the Linux server. Then on each Linux work station I just copy the pam_mount script there are modify /etc/nsswitch.conf and /etc/pam.d/xdm to support LDAP. I put the pam_mount script in cron to run nightly to syncronize with the Linux server. Then, the Linux desktops automatically mount the users data from /var/lib/samba/profiles//My Documents to /home//network_drive and unmount it when they log off. On Windows, you just join an NT4 style domain and then that's it. The Samba server instructs it to do roaming profiles. The profiles are stored in /var/lib/samba/profiles/ -- I use digital signatures and encryption. My key is stored at pgp.mit.edu key ID code: "0x8DB3BF09". F: F628 D9D3 E57A C281 5EFE 7DF7 B52A A393 8DB3 BF09 pgpAltWOOE9Ra.pgp Description: PGP signature
Linux OEM Laptop Vendor
Anyone have any recommendations for a laptop vendor that supports Debian? I was looking at pcsforeveryone.com[1] but they don't have Debian among their support options. Though their NV 6600 based laptop at $1500 looks like a heck of a steal. And I like that the core is ASUS. [1] http://www.pcsforeveryone.com/ -- I use digital signatures and encryption. My key is stored at pgp.mit.edu key ID code: "0x8DB3BF09". F: F628 D9D3 E57A C281 5EFE 7DF7 B52A A393 8DB3 BF09 pgpTJWzIbNh15.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Evolution-exchange
On Wednesday 03 August 2005 13:04, Marco Vieira wrote: > Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. > [Switching to Thread 1093323712 (LWP 13732)] > 0x402bde9a in e_canvas_hide_tooltip () from /usr/lib/libgal-2.2.so.1 Last month, after 8 hours of debugging with gdb trying to get access to my address book and begging the irc.gimp.net #evolution guys to help me get my contacts back I gave up. In the end, Evolution ate my Calendar and Address Books. I was only able to salvage my mail because it was stored in mbox format. Throughout the process I learned one thing: Evolution is a software engineering nightmare. I swore I'd never go back. I'm using KMail now with Exchange's IMAP support. -- I use digital signatures and encryption. My key is stored at pgp.mit.edu key ID code: "0x8DB3BF09". F: F628 D9D3 E57A C281 5EFE 7DF7 B52A A393 8DB3 BF09 pgps8DePpWzOF.pgp Description: PGP signature
Monodevelop on testing broken by zealous aptitude
Hi all. I was using Monodevelop to do C# development until today when some update through aptitude took that ability away. I can no longer pin Monodevelop in from unstable in to my testing installation. Any ideas? All the CIL bindings to Gnome cannot be installed because someone uploaded a new version that requires Gnome 2.10 Monodevelop hasn't been upgraded; just these dependencies. And rather than forgo the update to _libraries_, aptitude decided it would make more sense (!?) to remove everything that depended on them instead? ARG! Why? -- I use digital signatures and encryption. My key is stored at pgp.mit.edu key ID code: "0x8DB3BF09". F: F628 D9D3 E57A C281 5EFE 7DF7 B52A A393 8DB3 BF09 pgp19DOuZWPGJ.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Netware login from linux without IPX
Yes. One has to use pam_ldap and nssldap to accomplish this. You must also extend your Netware schema to support posixAccount classes and use some kind of LDIF creation screen to modify all the accounts in your tree to support posixAccount. Not an easy task. It will take you about a week to do it all. -- I use digital signatures and encryption. My key is stored at pgp.mit.edu key ID code: "0x8DB3BF09". F: F628 D9D3 E57A C281 5EFE 7DF7 B52A A393 8DB3 BF09 pgpLxxxmadtrH.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: keeping a module from loading - sarge install
On Friday 02 September 2005 1:18 pm, Ritesh Raj Sarraf wrote: > But why would you want discover when hotplug is already there ? > You can simple remove it. I could be misinformed, but I believe that both systems are there because hotplug is in the process of being deprecated in favor of discover. And some things only work in one or the other system. So yes, you need to blacklist in booth. -- I use digital signatures and encryption. My key is stored at pgp.mit.edu key ID code: "0x8DB3BF09". F: F628 D9D3 E57A C281 5EFE 7DF7 B52A A393 8DB3 BF09 pgpFFGXzGfbsN.pgp Description: PGP signature
X.Org Hits Testing
Well its finally happened, and I'm so happy that it has. As of now, most of mirrors have X.Org packages in their testing/etch repository. Before I perform the upgrade, I'm starting this thread to catch any and all problems that might arrise. Please let us know if you have any trouble with the upgrade by replying here. *crosses fingers and runs 'aptitude upgrade'* -- I use digital signatures and encryption. My key is stored at pgp.mit.edu key ID code: "0x8DB3BF09". F: F628 D9D3 E57A C281 5EFE 7DF7 B52A A393 8DB3 BF09 pgpVQhh5yKU9l.pgp Description: PGP signature
Gnome 2.10 going in to etch today
Around 10:30 UTC, all the mirrors should have Gnome 2.10 on them. -- I use digital signatures and encryption. My key is stored at pgp.mit.edu key ID code: "0x8DB3BF09". F: F628 D9D3 E57A C281 5EFE 7DF7 B52A A393 8DB3 BF09 pgp9TSC7oqURL.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Gnome 2.10 going in to etch today
On Monday 12 September 2005 8:15 pm, Joseph H. Fry wrote: > I can't install it... Everything is there except sound-juicer (>= > 2.10.1) which gnome-desktop-environment depends upon. Is this a bug? > Has anyone managed a way around this? Or is it me? I have the same problem. It looks like tomorrow's update doesn't have a solution either. You can check to see what's going in tomorrow here: http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/accepted.html -- I use digital signatures and encryption. My key is stored at pgp.mit.edu key ID code: "0x8DB3BF09". F: F628 D9D3 E57A C281 5EFE 7DF7 B52A A393 8DB3 BF09 pgp4CtGcn99t5.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Gnome 2.10 going in to etch today
On Tuesday 13 September 2005 12:21 am, Marc Wilson wrote: > Because the whole reason the "gnome-desktop-environment" *meta-package* > exists is to give you a complete Gnome. Not Gnome minus whatever *this* > cluebie doesn't like, whatever *that* cluebie doesn't like, etc. > > If you don't like what the meta-package installs, don't use the > gods-be-damned thing. Install one of the sub-packages, install whatever > parts of Gnome float your boat. The dependencies of the meta-package tell > you what they all are. I think you intentionally misunderstand what he's saying. He's saying that 50% of the gnome desktop shouldn't be removed by aptitude because one packages is missing from the "gnome experience" metapackage. And maybe it shouldn't have even moved in to testing if a dependacy wasn't met? It is not possible to do what you claim. The only way to get the subcomponents in to your system is to mark them as manual installs. And even then other fundamental Gnome components won't installed because the gnome-multimedia metapackage conditions aren't met. You seem to fundamentally misunderstand the complexity of gnome intradependacies. Sound-juicer not being present forces aptitude to remove approximately 50% of Gnome to avoid unmet dependacies. Further, marking packages as manual installs when you later intend to use the metapackage to track upgrades is a bad idea. Finding all the packages you marked as 'manual' and remarking them as 'auto' is no simple task. > Oh, wait... that would mean you'd actually have a clue about what testing > is, wouldn't it? This was rude and unnessary. And it seems that he understands what testing is: a testing ground for canidates for "stable". Why something this obviously not "stable" fell in to testing is a question I'm curious about, myself. Especially since an unmet dependacy is supposed to keep this from happening automatically. In this case it seems that someone named 'Volorn' forced Gnome to fall in to testing when it wasn't ready. > > Why should I *have* to install sound-juicer? > > You don't. See above. You do or several things won't install. > > And this same question applies to a lot of other packages. Often if I > > try to upgrade a bunch of stuff, ... > > > > Why don't you just stick to stable, huh? Because stable is too old for a desktop. And unstable is too new for a desktop. Testing is just right (usually). -- I use digital signatures and encryption. My key is stored at pgp.mit.edu key ID code: "0x8DB3BF09". F: F628 D9D3 E57A C281 5EFE 7DF7 B52A A393 8DB3 BF09 pgp4i3Tp8DfFS.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Gnome 2.10 going in to etch today
On Tuesday 13 September 2005 12:21 am, Marc Wilson wrote: > Because the whole reason the "gnome-desktop-environment" *meta-package* > exists is to give you a complete Gnome. Not Gnome minus whatever *this* > cluebie doesn't like, whatever *that* cluebie doesn't like, etc. And actually it seems that someone made a mistake; according to this [0], the sound-juicer should have fallen in to testing but someone missed it: [0] http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/testing.pl?package=sound-juicer -- I use digital signatures and encryption. My key is stored at pgp.mit.edu key ID code: "0x8DB3BF09". F: F628 D9D3 E57A C281 5EFE 7DF7 B52A A393 8DB3 BF09 pgpxOV9hckj8w.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Gnome 2.10 going in to etch today
On Tuesday 13 September 2005 2:16 pm, Ron Johnson wrote: > That's why "we" don't like aptitude. It too aggressively removes > things. Would the almighty Debian Gods decide which fraking package manager 'we' are supposed to use? I have seem countless times on this list that apt-get is deprecated, synaptic is no good, and aptitude is the only one that can before 'dist-upgrade' correctly. > If things like this trip you up, don't use meta-packages. A meta-package ensures that changes to the official 'gnome-desktop-environment' specification are automatically added or removed appropriately as time progresses. It also ensures that libraries that need not be needlessly updated because they are marked auto, are not. When packages are marked manual, they are upgraded immediately upon availability of a newer version rather than waiting for the next meta-package reference to require it. > That won't happen if you use apt-get, and install apps manually. You loose the benefits of the above. > Look at the gnome-desktop-environment and then "# apt-get install" > the ones you want, or install everything except that which you > don't want. apt-get install is supposedly deprecated. > Yes, that's initially more time-consuming than installing g-d-e, > but it *does* work. > > Question: why use a metapackage to track upgrades, when packages > are already installed manually? Or is this an apt-get vs. aptitude > issue? See above. > Maybe it's because I'm running sid, use apt-get and already have > sound-juicer installed, but this command only removes sound-juicer: > > # apt-get remove sound-juicer According to the dep tree, it's only because you have not installed g-d-e. > > Because stable is too old for a desktop. And unstable is too new for a > > desktop. Testing is just right (usually). > > In your opinion. IMNSHO, unstable is a good desktop. Unless unstable happens to be going through an ABI change and you don't want to babysit upgrades. -- I use digital signatures and encryption. My key is stored at pgp.mit.edu key ID code: "0x8DB3BF09". F: F628 D9D3 E57A C281 5EFE 7DF7 B52A A393 8DB3 BF09 pgpijEacSJcdO.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Gnome 2.10 going in to etch today
On Tuesday 13 September 2005 10:43 pm, Marc Wilson wrote: I'm not feeding this troll any more. -- I use digital signatures and encryption. My key is stored at pgp.mit.edu key ID code: "0x8DB3BF09". F: F628 D9D3 E57A C281 5EFE 7DF7 B52A A393 8DB3 BF09 pgpQguMjXvX5E.pgp Description: PGP signature
Someone is breaking etch (testing)?
Hi everyone; In the past two days, etch (testing) has been updated with a kde meta package which apparently depends on packages from unstable which, in turn, has caused aptitude to suggest removing KDE when performing a system-wide upgrade. I have been able to hold it back by following the dependacy tree backwards and marking the troubled packages (kfilereplace, kimagemapeditor, klinkstatus, komander, kxsldbg) to hold. It appears that parts of kde-3.4.2 have slipped through the ftpmasters prematurely. Can anyone else confirm this? Why did this happen? Was this a mistake? Perhaps I have a package from unstable in there somewhere? How would I track it down? I have unstable in my sources.list in case I want to ever pin something in from it but so far I haven't. Here is my /etc/apt/sources.list and /etc/apt/preferences: sources.list #deb file:///cdrom/ sarge main deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ etch main non-free contrib deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ etch main non-free contrib deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ sid main non-free contrib deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ sid main non-free contrib deb http://secure-testing.debian.net/debian-secure-testing etch/security-updates main contrib non-free deb-src http://secure-testing.debian.net/debian-secure-testing etch/security-updates main contrib non-free sources.list preferences - Package: * Pin: release a=stable Pin-Priority: 700 Package: * Pin: release a=testing Pin-Priority: 650 Package: * Pin: release a=unstable Pin-Priority: 600 preferences - -- I use digital signatures and encryption. My key is stored at pgp.mit.edu key ID code: "0x8DB3BF09". F: F628 D9D3 E57A C281 5EFE 7DF7 B52A A393 8DB3 BF09 pgpXeeD1rYqAQ.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Someone is breaking etch (testing)?
On Monday 26 September 2005 12:15 am, Marc Wilson wrote: > Gee, what about by just NOT upgrading the box TODAY? Oh, that's right... > people die or something if they don't update the installed packages every > twenty-four hours. I am reporting the issue. Why are you always such a troll? -- I use digital signatures and encryption. My key is stored at pgp.mit.edu key ID code: "0x8DB3BF09". F: F628 D9D3 E57A C281 5EFE 7DF7 B52A A393 8DB3 BF09 pgpE9yQ1jU9fQ.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: pointer for home networking
On Monday 26 September 2005 4:54 pm, michael wrote: > So all I want to do is connect the latter to the former such that both can > access the Internet... There is probably some very easy way to do this graphically but I like this method: Install ipkungfu from aptitude. Go to /etc/ipkungfu and edit each of the .conf files. be sure to turn on forward.conf. Run '/etc/init.d/ipkungfu start'. Set the ethernet port on your master computer to 192.168.0.1/255.255.255.0. Set the ethernet port on your slave to 192.168.0.2/255.255.255.0 with the default route set to 192.168.0.1 and be sure to configure the DNS entries in /etc/resolv.conf to the same ones your ISP hands out to your master server. Connect the two ethernet ports with a switch or a crossover cable. That's it! Be sure to configure ipkungfu's other options so you have some security. -- I use digital signatures and encryption. My key is stored at pgp.mit.edu key ID code: "0x8DB3BF09". F: F628 D9D3 E57A C281 5EFE 7DF7 B52A A393 8DB3 BF09 pgpBIMt1ch79s.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Hotplug, udev, hal, etc.
On Sunday 09 October 2005 08:19 am, jjluza wrote: > I never said it works everywhere but you tell him it works nowhere : that's > wrong. > Anyway, Sid is not intend to work perfectly everywhere. it is intend to > test and stabilize new things. For people who want to have a stable system, > they should use Sarge. For people who want to use Sid, but don't want to > crash their system, they just have to use apt-listbugs. Hotplug in udev is > a new thing in Debian. If nobody test it, how can we solve problems ? > Maybe udev maintainer should have put it in experimental instead ... maybe. > But udev 0.70-3 will work for many people, others must report bugs, that's > it. What a load of crap. 0.70-3 *from unstable* will not work *with the kernel distributed in unstable* (namely 2.6.12). It fails to insert the needed /dev entries. What's worst about this is that it *force* hotplug out of the system in order to install a version of udev that doesn't work. BTW, many bugs have been filed for this problem since yesterday [1] [2] [3] [1] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=332905 [2] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=332898 [3] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=332946 -- I use digital signatures and encryption. My key is stored at pgp.mit.edu key ID code: "0x8DB3BF09". F: F628 D9D3 E57A C281 5EFE 7DF7 B52A A393 8DB3 BF09 pgpXlImP68NAk.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: XV with Nvidia on Sid xorg
On Sunday 30 October 2005 11:20 am, William Ballard wrote: > Does XV work on Nvidia with Sid's Xorg, using Nvidia's propitary > drivers? Yes it does. As far as I know, there's no extra configuration required. -- I use digital signatures and encryption. My key is stored at pgp.mit.edu 0x8DB3BF09 FP: F628 D9D3 E57A C281 5EFE - 7DF7 B52A A393 8DB3 BF09 pgpQr1G3TB6B2.pgp Description: PGP signature
