2.6.0 + framebuffers + TNT2/GeForce4
Hi! Has anyone been able to use framebuffers with kernel 2.6.0 and a GeForce4 MX 440 or a RIVA TNT2 Model 64? Thanks! Hugo. __ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Noisy computer
It isn't veryfan, but varyfan and it works using the /proc fs and lm-sensors. I tried it and it wants the control pwm2 which apparently is not used by my mobo. But since my fan does not shut up with XP (when I used it last year) and yours does, you probably will have better luck. Google for varyfan... Regards, Hugo Antonio Rodr wrote: > I have a HP Pavilion 250y that becomes very silent after a while with > XP, but with sid it doesn't stop making noise. I think it is the fan. I > was reading a thread at > http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/archive/1/2003/08/1/78087 > and they describe a very similar situation. > Does anyone have the same problem? In the discussion above they mention > veryfan, I couldn't find it in the packages. Does sid have any thing > similar packaged? Any ideas? Could be something else causing the noise. > > __ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
2.6.0 + where is /etc/modules?
Hi, Documentation on how to load modules in 2.6.0 on Debian is a mess. Maybe this is too advanced yet, who knows. Trying to load a sound module that was in /etc/modules in 2.4.21 as cs4232. /etc/modules is no longer used in 2.6.0. Everything in the Debian Manual refers to /etc/modules. Now with ALSA the module is called snd-cs4232.ko. Where/how do I load that? Aha! Docs on module-init-tools will tell me in its FAQ! It says: Q) Things still don't load properly. A) Use generate-module.conf to generate an /etc/module.conf from your old setup. There is in fact no "generate-module.conf" there is in the example dir a "generate-modprobe.conf". Do I use that? I do. It produces no noticable effects. Q) I'm having trouble inserting out-of-tree modules A) See discussion at http://hypermail.idiosynkrasia.net/linux-kernel/archived/2002/week23/0162.html Putting that into the URL box produces NOT FOUND. Big question: What do you do in 2.6.0 with the modules that were in /etc/modules in 2.4.x? Thanks. Hugo Vanwoerkom. __ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: upgrade->dead system, help.
wil wrote: Hi, Sorry I have very little info on this...no logs or anything:( Running SID, with a custom 2.4.22 kernel, ext3 file system. HD was checked with the diagnostic utility from IBM, including surface (advanced) check and was fine. Did an update via dselect yesterday and after that the whole system has died. When i boot the process stops at INIT: version 2.85 booting followed by a blinking cursor. When i ran the upgrade the thing striking me as very odd was under "new packages to install" 'kernel-headers 2.5.x.x.' were mentioned. Not sure of the exact version anymore but it was 2.5 for sure. I think it was 2.5.99. I was kinda flabbergasted by that and saw no reason why those kernel headers should be installed...since i'm on 2.4. So i went back into the dselect selection 'mode' and set that kernel package to 'purge' so it wouldn't install. This gave me a load of ' depends on kernel-headers 2.5.x.x. ' like from gcc and so on. Struck me as utterly weird aswell cause my system never had anything 2.5.xxx kerlnel related stuff on it...anyways...thinking 'dpkg knows best' i let it have it's way and the package in question was installed. After getting the packages during install/configure something went wrong aswell but silly me didn't pay too much attention since this happens quite a lot with unstable and always gets resolved quickly...and never ended in something like i'm having now. Can't imagine the cause to be those kernel headers even if it's weird they were installed, but one of the 20 orso packages which got updated. An older 2.4.18 kernel does go thru the entire boot process but with may many errors mostly in the line of 'can't find /var/xx' After that i tried toms floppy linux to boot the system. mount /dev/hda9 results in just getting the'special device not found message'. And hda9 happens to be /var. fdisk shows hda9 as there and as ext3 but i think the complete filesystem went out da door on that partition. e2fsck gives me a 'the superbloack could not be read or does not' etc..etc..etc. Any ideas on how to get out of this one?...and why this happened? Cheers Hi! In the future: Get sufficient disk space - HDD's certainly are cheap now. Get partimage and save your partition to disk before doing drastic things. I run 5 Debian partitions and on the current one with Backstreet Ruby, the multiseat-Linux, I wanted to see if openoffice would read pdf files. But if not, then I don't want it. So I saved the partition, apt-getted openoffice.org, tested it and restored the saved partition. Faultless. Regards, Hugo. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Slightly OT
Bijan Soleymani wrote: On Sat, Nov 01, 2003 at 04:52:55PM +0800, Uwe Dippel wrote: I used to be pretty happy with my newsserver (news.cis.dfn.de), until I started with Debian. I can't seem to get all messages from there; for no good reason I'd know about. Could anybody direct me to a newsserver (free - available from outside the confines of an ISP) carrying all messages from this list, please ? http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2003/debian-user-200310/ is so unhandy ... ! news.gmane.org is amazing, every single message since the dawn of time (or almost) is available. Bijan Actually I like news.gmane.org a lot: I did not know about it until the recent disappearance of linux.debian.user from google. Hugo. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [ot] Linux gender in French
Christophe Courtois wrote: Le Dimanche 2 Novembre 2003 03:42, Wesley J Landaker a déclamé : Then again, as I said, I'm not a native French speaker, and although I've got *fairly* good inuition into a word's gender, I still make mistakes! ;) Don't worry, even French people don't always know all genders :-) True, but having lived in Mexico for the last 10 years and speaking Spanish, I note with regret that genders are "built-in" and if you come from a more or less genderless background (the Netherlands, US) then you never get it: it just refuses to become automatic. Hugo. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: XFree86 4.3 in stable sarge - how likely
John Peter wrote: Lukas Ruf wrote: Uwe Dippel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-11-03 10:06]: On Mon, 03 Nov 2003 09:25:13 +0100, Jaque Moreau wrote: ... you can always upgrade manually ... ! can I find the required .deb files anywhere? wbr, Lukas I did a quick search on Google amd found it right away : Put this on your sources.list : # XFree 4.3 deb http://penguinppc.org/~daniels/sid/i386/ ./ deb http://www.schuldei.org/debian/bruby/ ./ Hold it... If you get this one then you get something terrific besides just getting 4.3.0: XFree86's that will run side-by-side on separate display cards. I am using this one right now. I am logged in on a 17" monitor and to the left of me is another 17" monitor that my wife uses and the 2 are connected to 2 Nvidia cards (TNT2-AGP, GeForce4-MX440-PCI) in the one PC in between the 2, running Debian. You have to get a kernel patch to be able to also have separate keyboards that keep their input apart. There are 3: 2.4.21, 2.4.22 and 2.6.0. The best one is 2.4.22. I have used all three. You should run gdm as display manager because it will sequentially start the XFree's and take them down in reverse, because if you use xdm or kdm you might not have an vga-text console as a result. Caveat: no framebuffers. At least not with my graphic cards. There are other cards running with framebuffers on 2.6.0 Folks this is the greatest thing since Linux and Debian... And I just changed my sources list and ran apt-get dist-upgrade... Hugo. Then run : apt-get install xserver-xfree86 -t 4.3 This was NOT verifyed by me - do it at your own risk . John -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
parted: "rather strange layout"
Hi all! I partitioned my new disk with parted. Runs great. However, when I run parted on it now he comes up with: No Implementation: This ext2 filesystem has a rather strange layout! Parted can't resize this (yet). So you can do anything else, no resizing. Googling my way around I find indications of the phrase but no fix. Qtparted comes up with the same problem when you try to resize with that. Anybody? Thanks! Hugo. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: galeon 1.3.x fuckwittedness -- 1.2.5 fork, anyone?
Karsten M. Self wrote: on Wed, Oct 29, 2003 at 02:15:12PM +0800, Uwe Dippel ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: I propose "pub", for "power users browser". To four significant digits. Namespace is available in Debian. My own coding mojo is weak, but I know what I like in a browser: http://twiki.iwethey.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/NixBrowsers Nicely done, that. H. Interest, anyone? Peace. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Multi-user Ruby (was Re: XFree86 4.3 in stable sarge - how likely)
Kjetil Kjernsmo wrote: On Monday 03 November 2003 22:58, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Hold it... If you get this one then you get something terrific besides just getting 4.3.0: XFree86's that will run side-by-side on separate display cards. I am using this one right now. I am logged in on a 17" monitor and to the left of me is another 17" monitor that my wife uses and the 2 are connected to 2 Nvidia cards (TNT2-AGP, GeForce4-MX440-PCI) in the one PC in between the 2, running Debian. Wow! This is actually my big project right now! In fact, I've been working on it for about two weeks. I don't think it is easy. But it was the only way we could afford and have space for two "computers"... I must say, 4.3 makes everything very pretty. Fonts have improved incredibly since 4.1, and makes text much more readable. You have to get a kernel patch to be able to also have separate keyboards that keep their input apart. There are 3: 2.4.21, 2.4.22 and 2.6.0. The best one is 2.4.22. I have used all three. You should run gdm as display manager because it will sequentially start the XFree's and take them down in reverse, because if you use xdm or kdm you might not have an vga-text console as a result. Yup. I've been sticking to kdm for the time being. Plan to go with gdm once I'm upgrading to 2.6, but right now, I couldn't get 2.6 to run. Caveat: no framebuffers. At least not with my graphic cards. There are other cards running with framebuffers on 2.6.0 Yeah. I've got a Matrox G450 DH, I think that should work (I'm using a Matrox Mystique as the second now). Folks this is the greatest thing since Linux and Debian... Yeah, once you get it working I have to PS/2 keyboards and a couple of PS/2+VGA cable extensions + a Tangtop USBPS2 adapter. I could run both mice on USB ports OK, but because physical space constraints now I need to run them in a configuration where the primary mouse and keyboard are on the PS/2 ports and the secondary are on the USBPS2 adapter. That's a lot harder. I'm discussing this on the linuxconsole-dev list right now, but ideas are always appreciated. One prob. seems to be the large number of hw combinations possible: I have 2 USB A4Tech optical mice and 2 PS/2 IBM Model M keyboards. The keyboards go in the "normal" kbd and mouse mini-DIN slots and I have 4 USB ports and the mice go in 2 of them and the USB scanner in a third. HID finds eveything. 2.4.22 and gdm are the recipe for me. Even gpm doesn't die and I recently have had no VGA-text console wipe-outs, where he "forgets" what was on a vc... H. Basically, it seems like the keyboard is detected, but then HID just suddenly gives up breath, and the mouse isn't. This are some lines from my dmesg: input: USB HID v1.00 Keyboard [Tangtop Generic USBPS2] on usb-00:04.2-2 usb.c: hid driver claimed interface dfe5a3c0 host/usb-uhci.c: interrupt, status 2, frame# 827 hid-core.c: ctrl urb status -75 received However, both are detected under my debian 2.4.22 kernel. My logs and configs for this system is at http://dev.kjernsmo.net/tmp/multi-user-logs3/ if anybody wants a look... :-) And I just changed my sources list and ran apt-get dist-upgrade... Wow... :-) Cheers, Kjetil -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: setting hardware clock from NIST
ScruLoose wrote: On Tue, Nov 04, 2003 at 09:04:58PM -0500, Haines Brown wrote: uhm... "apropos clock" on my box returns clock (3)- Determine processor time clock (8)- query and set the hardware clock (RTC) hwclock (8) - query and set the hardware clock (RTC) ... among others. Doesn't look like it's a RedHat thing. ... Will this work; is there a better arrangement? I don't know whether it's 'better', but I like chrony Yep! Second that. I also use chrony and I like the "hands-on" approach of it. So I wrote a wminet that talks to chrony and keeps showing what chrony has done. H. for keeping the time. It may be a bit of overkill, but it sure does a good job. Cheers! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: fast swithichg between X and virtual console - how to?
Alex Malinovich wrote: On Sat, 2003-11-08 at 11:20, Miernik wrote: Switching between X and virtual console is very slow, (with Ctrl-Alt-F1, etc). Is it possible to have it swich as fast as is switching between virtual consoles? If I set exactly the same video mode on my text console and X (I mean resolution, timings, etc to be the same, one text and the other graphics mode of course) will it switch fast? It won't have to change video modes. Or maybe if I install a framebuffer and run both text and X console through a framebuffer it will be fast? Is there some reason you need to constantly switch to the VTs? Can you just use xterm instead? That would make switching a lot faster. :) I guess it a matter of personal prefs, but I find any fullscreen VT app. miles ahead of anything on X: as a result I use X for what X is needed for: graphics and VT for everything that needs no graphics. And on switching: how fast (in secs, msecs) do you have in mind? The switches do a repaint. I cannot use framebuffers, so my switch, when both screens (x + VT) are full takes, 1/4 sec? That's a guess. But you're right: the switch to another desktop is instantaneous. Hugo. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: parted: "rather strange layout"
Kjetil Kjernsmo wrote: I'm interested in this too, so I went looking a bit, and there are many people citing this message in the parted mailing list archives, but AFAICS no responses. So you can do anything else, no resizing. Yeah, well, I don't know if that is exactly the point, but according to the GNU parted homepage, parted can only resize ext2, ext3 and reiserFS partitions if the starting point remains fixed... I guess that's rarely very useful, because in many cases, there is another partition immediately following the first partition... That's how it is in my case anyway. There are probably intentions of fixing this some time, but right now, it seems like the only thing those of us who are not great hackers can do is wait patiently. Damn, patience again. I am going to get the source and see exactly where that message "strange layout" comes from. Changing parted to do better will be too much but at least it will confirm that the message means you are trying to change the starting point of a resize request. Hugo. Best, Kjetil -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
SVGATextMode
Hi! I am doubtful that this gets a response... but here goes... Because I run BACKSTREET RUBY the *great* multi-seat Linux solution, I cannot use framebuffers. So a, perhaps better, solution is to use SVGATextMode, which sets console fonts by writing directly to the graphics card. It, however, is no longer supported. (So no newer cards are supported, but my TNT2 is, as Riva TNT2) This worked in all my Sarge setups with kernel 2.4.22 (and other kernels too) So over the weekend I decided to build a Sarge system from scratch, meaning from the rescue/boot disks, using drivers.tgz and basedebs.tgz At some point, after a reboot, stm s100x48, which looks great normally, looks messed up. So I have to revert to slower, and uglier characters. By "messed up" I mean hardly readable. I downloaded the source, but it is a kluge. To understand, I mean. I think it a great tool. Although everything else on the new system works great, I have no choice I think but to try the whole thing all over and see where exactly it breaks. Strange thing is the other Sarge systems I have installed have recent dist-upgrades done on them and SVGATextMode keeps running OK. So you would think the code level would be the same. If any body has an idea to avoid doing it all over once again, I would appreciate it. Thanks! Hugo. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SVGATextMode
Pigeon wrote: On Tue, Nov 11, 2003 at 03:22:49PM -0600, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: You really need an answer from someone who uses svgatextmode on your video card; I don't have an nvidia card so can't be specifically helpful. Do your other systems that still work use the same video card? Can you give a more detailed description of how the display is "messed up"? I did at one point find that setting 100x37 on bootup failed because the timings were out and the monitor wouldn't sync to it. The solution was to modify the bootup script to set 100x37, then set 80x25, then set 100x37 again, and it would get the timings right on the second attempt. Have you tried (a) experimenting with slower dot clocks while keeping all other values the same, or (b) changing the width of the sync pulses? Thanks for answering! This is the DUMBEST... :-( I started installing from scratch again. The debian 3.01a root disk, because it is woody, first puts up all the woody sources. I then change that to Sarge and run update again on a second vt. Then... It occurred to me: I forgot to run dist-upgrade on the basedebs of woody that got installed! It has all the console stuff: console-tools-libs that doesn't exist in Sarge but libconsole does, console-date, console-common, console-tools, they all get replaced by Sarge. So I just did an dist-upgrade on the already completed system with the bad looking SVGATextMode, and... bingo!~fixed! Looks great... I use s100x48, is super fast and looks great, have a red border around the console too... Hugo. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
modprobe question
Hi! I just dist-upgraded a sarge partition. Now the hid module for the usb mice will not load. If you do "modprobe hid" he says "cannot find keybdev which is needed by hid". Then if I do insmod /lib//hid.o it gets loaded and the mice can be used. Sure enough when I do "modprobe -c" it shows: # Above above hid keybdev mousedev I cannot find keybdev anywhere in the 2.4.22 kernel that I am using, except for traces in the documenation, but nothing in .config Neither can I find where he gets his "above" information: grepping through /lib or /etc yields nothing: I cannot find it in modutils or depmod. I get around the problem by starting a script that does the insmod before gpm and gdm get started so they find their mice, but that is absurd of course. Where does modprobe get his information about that above statement? Thanks! Hugo. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: modprobe question
Kjetil Kjernsmo wrote: On Wednesday 12 November 2003 15:30, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Hi! I just dist-upgraded a sarge partition. Now the hid module for the usb mice will not load. If you do "modprobe hid" he says "cannot find keybdev which is needed by hid". You're the one using backstreet-ruby, right...? Right Kjetil! And I figured out that backstreet-ruby removed it. I cannot find keybdev anywhere in the 2.4.22 kernel that I am using, except for traces in the documenation, but nothing in .config keybdev has been removed in 2.6 IIUC, and since backstreet-ruby is a backport of some console and input stuff, keybdev is gone. What I still cannot figure out is where modprobe finds the dependency, if I cannot find any reference to it in /etc or /lib... The advice I got was to add above hid usbcore to /etc/modutils/local (or somewhere equivalent). Will do! Still a puzzle where this thing came from after a dist-upgrade I forgot to do previously... Thanks! Hugo Basically, you don't need keybdev, but you have to tell your system about it... :-) Cheers, Kjetil -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: printer icon
Ron Johnson wrote: On Wed, 2003-11-12 at 11:54, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i can not find a print icon on web sight what should i do? Run naked down the street, and then disembowel yourself with a short, dull knife? Punt? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 question
Jimmy Johansson wrote: Hi, I tried to do dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 yesterday expecting it to create a new XF86Config-4 file, but it didn't. I moved the old XF86Config-4 to my /home/ directory and ran dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86. Am I supposed to do something else? I am asking because I want to try some different settings but I don't want to do it by hand... Thank you in advance. /Jimmy I have always more luck with X -configure That will create a XF86Config.new in whatever directory you are running in. I always do it as root, not sure if needed. Hugo. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: keyboard doesn't respond: assistance needed
Hooman Javidnia wrote: Hi list, I have tried to install debian on my laptop several times and everytime it was a failure. I tried two times with KNOPPIX but each time when computer boots up, in a text login screen I am been asked to enter the user name, but the KEYBOARD doesn't work! But KNOPPIX does not ask for a username. What happens when you boot the KNOPPIX CD with "knoppix 2" as boot parameters? What do the messages show before he halts at the prompt? Hugo. Third time I tried with the new beta version of Sarge installer. The computer boots up, but in the first menu system where I have to select the language the keyboard doesn't respond and I can't do anything. I have to force the computer to a shutdown. My computer is a Gateway M500s notebook with a Pentium 4-M and 512 MB of memory. It has integrated network card and wireless adapter. I would be grateful for all the suggestions and comments. Hooman Javidnia -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: problem in screen resolution at 1024*768
Rafael Quintanilla wrote: (Texto en castellano más abajo) Hi members of the list, I recently installed debian from a Knoppix 3.3 catalan. The problem is that I want to have a 1024*768 resolution (BTW my monitor is a 15" SyncMaster 551S, samsung, with a recommeded refresh vertical rate of 85 Hz). I obtain only a 800x600 resolution (see attached file XF86Config-4_old.txt). To solve the problem, and as I am not used to modifying this file by hand (I am mostly a Mandrake user, but would like to become a Debianer as I see this distribution as more long-term stable) I had the following idea: I booted my system with the knoppix CD and the following options: knoppix screen=1024x768 vsync=85 This results in the screen resolution I wanted, together with the vertical refresh rate recommended. I copied the new file (see attached file XF86Config-4_new.txt) to my installed knoppix system, but I still get the 800x600 resolution. Can anyone help me? I cannot see why the resolution is still 800x600. Should I delete all the references to the other resolutions? What happens when you shut down X (/etc/init.d/xdm stop) or gdm if you are running gdm, in anycase, stop the X server, and then run X -configure. That creates a XF86Config.new in the directory that you are running in. You can start X on that config, it will only show a grey screen, but you can tell what it is like. Just use that config, with some tweaks, like where your mouse is and what your keyboard is like... Hugo. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: modprobe question
Florian Ernst wrote: Hello Hugo! Just a short note, http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=213092 might be of interest, too. Cheers, Flo Thanks Florian! That explains why I could not find where modprobe -c gets the above from: it is build into the upgraded modutils! The fix is above hid usbcore But I fail to comprehend why that fixes it, which is my problem ;-) Hugo. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: modprobe question
Kjetil Kjernsmo wrote: On Wednesday 12 November 2003 20:53, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Right Kjetil! And I figured out that backstreet-ruby removed it. Yup! :-) I cannot find keybdev anywhere in the 2.4.22 kernel that I am using, except for traces in the documenation, but nothing in .config keybdev has been removed in 2.6 IIUC, and since backstreet-ruby is a backport of some console and input stuff, keybdev is gone. What I still cannot figure out is where modprobe finds the dependency, if I cannot find any reference to it in /etc or /lib... No, I didn't figure out that either... See the next post by Florian: it comes from the fact that the "above" is hardcoded in the upgraded modutils. I would like to understand what that does, the man modules.conf is obscure: [add] above module module_list This directive makes it possible for one module to "pull in" another set of modules on top of itself in a module stack, as seen in the output of the lsmod(8) command. The above directive is useful for those circumstances when the dependencies are more complex than what can be described in the modules.dep dependency file. This is an optimized case of the post-install and pre-remove directives. Note that failure of installing the module will not influence the exit status of modprobe. The optional add prefix adds the new list to the previous list instead of replacing it. Why does "above hid usbcore" get rid of his earlier dependency? Hugo. The advice I got was to add above hid usbcore to /etc/modutils/local (or somewhere equivalent). Will do! Still a puzzle where this thing came from after a dist-upgrade I forgot to do previously... Yeah... I'm most puzzled that it didn't break earlier... :-) Basically, I upgraded everything to unstable before even trying backstreet ruby... Cheers, Kjetil -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: nvidia-glx Version: 1.0.4496-2.1
R (Chandra) Chandrasekhar wrote: Dear Sir, I have an NVIDIA Corporation NV17 [GeForce4 MX440] video card that worked fine with the nvidia-glx_1.0.4191-1_i386.deb that I got from Justin A <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>'s web page about nine months ago. Now, during a routine update/upgrade cycle, the package nvidia-glx_1.0.4496-2.1_i386.deb maintained by you was installed but I could not get X up after that. Accordingly, I manually downgraded by going to /var/cache/apt/archives and using dpkg -i to install the previous version. I have two questions: (1) Why does the new version not work? (2) How can I prevent the newer versions from ever being installed, if (1) cannot be fixed? I have in /etc/apt/preferences the lines: Package: nvidia-* Pin: release v=1.0.4191-1 Pin-Priority: 1000 but they do not seem to work. Can you help please? Many thanks. --Chandra 15 Nov 03 -- Dr R (Chandra) Chandrasekhar Adjunct Senior Lecturer M018, Centre for Intelligent Information Processing Systems (CIIPS) School of Electrical, Electronic and Computer Engineering The University of Western Australia 35 Stirling Highway, Crawley, WA 6009, AUSTRALIA Phone: +61-(8)-9380-3749 Fax: +61-(8)-9380-1168 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CRICOS Provider Code: 00126G -- It looks like that website has not updated it's versions very recently, e.g. kernel 2.4.22 is not there. 496 is the latest Nvidia version, I use 363. Why don't you just download the script from the Nvidia site and run it? You'll have to apt-get the kernel-headers for your version of the kernel. Hugo. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Using parted without a floppy disk?
Only way to go: Knoppix. It will cost you an iso download, but it is a fantastic system for recovery anywhere on anything. Regards, Hugo Vanwoerkom __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Disk I/O stalling whole system ..
I posted the same problem a while back: http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&threadm=d1efdfcc.0307310656.33999ec2%40posting.google.com&rnum=25&prev=/groups%3Fsafe%3Dimages%26ie%3DISO-8859-1%26as_uauthors%3Dhugo%2520vanwoerkom%26lr%3D%26num%3D100%26as_scoring%3Dd%26hl%3Den BTW Knoppix (the booted CD, not the HD installation) is a great tool to discover if you tuned your system correctly. You have to find out what IDE controller chip your mobo has and enable that particular option in the kernel you are using. It made a world of difference for me... Regards, Hugo Vanwoerkom __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: XFree86 + Signal 11 = Bad Juju
I always thought a sig 11 was hardware caused: overheating of the cpu, until... I installed MPlayer and it ALWAYS gets sig 11's on my machine and tasks that REALLY use the cpu, like a 3 hour Mozilla compile, NEVER get sig 11's. The only sig 11 my machine ever sees is the one by MPlayer. So may be it is hardware caused, but how to explain that only one program ever gets it? BTW I never see it in XFree86 (4.3.0) Regards, Hugo vanwoerkom __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: DMA doesn't seem to work with my custom 2.4.21 kernel
That is the error you get when you don't have the right service activated for your IDE controller chip. What is your controller chip? Hugo. __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
A4tech WOP-35PU optical mouse
Hi: I got 2 A4tech USB mice for the Ruby Backstreet Multiseat Linux project. They have 2 wheels 2 top buttons and 2 side buttons. Of course the installation folder only discusses Windoze and does not say what the side buttons are for. Has anybody figured out how to use it? Thanks! Hugo. __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Multi-user Debian
I just saved myself $600 and did NOT buy another box, but instead just a monitor, a videocard, a keyboard and a mouse. I put them in my box that just runs various flavors of Debian and apt-getted a modified 4.3.0 X and installed the vanilla 2.4.21 kernel and applied a patch. Then I started xdm and voilá: on the two monitors appeared the xdm login screen! Two people can login and do whatever! This can be done for as many as 16 users! It is described here: http://startx.times.lv/ http://www.schuldei.org/aivils/ http://varna.demon.co.uk/~svetlio/linux/how-to.html This has got to be the best idea since Linux and Debian... Regards, Hugo __ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
LILO problems,no boot, can I use Knoppix rescue to fix?
I am doing this from memory, so I stand to be corrected. But... You must chroot to the root directory that has the problem and the /etc with lilo.conf. Lilo does that with the -r option: so try lilo -r /mnt/hda1 Regards, Hugo __ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Son of Swen?
Right on. Hugo. __ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Diff btw GeForce4 and RIVA TNT2?
Hi all! I have Backstreet Ruby installed so I have 2 monitors with kbds/mice that each have a user. The monitors are samsungs 17" but the cards are different: one is a RIVA TNT2 Model 64/Model 64 and the other a GeForce4 MX 440 AGP 8x. I notice no difference between the 2 other than that I paid $25 more for the MX440. I would like to see the difference between the two with some application: but I am a no-gamer nurd. Anybody know of an app/game that would show clearly what the difference between these 2 cards is? Thanks! Hugo. __ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Diff btw GeForce4 and RIVA TNT2?
Hi all! Thanks for those answers! So... apt-getted xscreensaver-gl. gears -fps -delay 0 indeed is the most straightforward app. to show the difference. Left monitor, with the GeForce4: 155 fps. Right monitor, with RIVA TNT2: 50 fps. Quod erat demonstrandum! Hugo __ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
xinerama ideas
Hi all! I have 2 monitors with each keyboard/mouse and I use them with Backstreet Ruby to have 2 users use the one Debian system. But another use is one user with xinerama. Since I usually sit 17 inches off the tube, I find looking at the other tube, which is 31 inches away, not easy. What in the world would I use xinerama for? Not having had it, being small-minded, now I can't think of a use of it. Any ideas? Hugo. __ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Diff btw GeForce4 and RIVA TNT2?
From: Ron Johnson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Subject: Re: Diff btw GeForce4 and RIVA TNT2? >> Quod erat demonstrandum! >The nvidia-using-TNT2 will *smoke* the nv-using-GeForce4. Unfortunately with Backstreet Ruby I cannot mix nvidia and nv, so both the figures are with nvidia. Unfortunately that it is closed source but I find nvidia very stable and very easy to install. The *only* peculiarity is that to start xdm with Backstreet Ruby you must have an X -probeonly in it so that nvidia finds both cards, otherwise you get: COULD NOT INITIALIZE NVIDIA when you try to start the separate X's. Hugo. __ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
xinerama ideas
Hi! They are sitting so far away because they are normally used to each have a user with its own keyboard and mouse and the PC in between them. That is the Backstreet Ruby multi-user use. So that way I can (at present) boot with each monitor having its own xdm login screen, but way I cannot switch to vc's (Ruby limitation.) Or, boot with one xdm login screen and that way I can start the separate X server on the other monitor and login myself on the one monitor and then I do have vc's. Or, boot with xinerama, but then the monitors are not immediately next to each other. Backstreet Ruby has an experimental feature to switch servers on the fly but I have not tried that. Hugo. __ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Multi-headed X servers for multiple local users
Best solution ever seen on Linux: I am using it right now. Have 1 PC running various flavors of Debian, with 2 nvidia video cards, 2 samsung monitors, 2 IBM Model M keyboards, and 2 usb mice. They have patches for 2.4.21, 2.4.22 and are working on 2.6.0 1. I downloaded the 2.4.21 kernel 2. Apply the 2.4.21 kernel patch they have. 3. dist-upgrade to their patched X 4.3.0 4. setup the xserver/XF86Config-4 I run with 2 bootable configs: with xdm on both monitors, but then you cannot switch to vc's, and with xdm on the main monitor. In the latter case you log on as the user that will be on the as yet not started monitor and startx a duplicate X to there. Then you log off and log on yourself. Now you have vc's. In the future it will have vc's on both tubes. And how many internet cafés/schools/homes/etc. have 1 pc per user? Not needed at all: this setup can have up to 16 users per pc. I notice no degradation at all with 2 users. What holds anything back is having only a 56kb modem line, but that is not going to change very soon where I live... Regards, Hugo __ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Where is modversions.h with kernel 2.6.0-test6?
Hi all! Installing the 2.6.0-test6 kernel with make-kpkg and trying to install the Nvidia kernel module, I get: modversions.h not found. It indeed is not there. Using kernel_image and kernel_headers still no results. Specifying loadable modules -> module versioning produces a modversions.h in /include/config that only has a define in it. I have googled my way through the solutions: does it mean you cannot use make-kpkg and have to do a make dep, etc. instead? Thanks! Hugo. __ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Where is modversions.h with kernel 2.6.0-test6?
Thanks! I found the site. Hugo. __ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mondo backup: is there someone successful ?
I spoke too soon: mondo 1.62 does NOT always restore correctly: about half the time it does not and pops out a message that there was no device specified. I appear to have 3 double CD backups and 2 or 3 (I can't tell on one of them) single CD's. Mondorestore works correctly on 2 single CD backups and one double one. It does not work on 2 double backups and one single one where it hung the drive. Given that I have the source I guess I could find out exactly what his trouble is. Easiest is to buy some CD-RW's and keep trying until it works. These are all CD-R's, wasteful... Hugo. __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mplayer and vsound
In using vsound with realplayer, realplayer stops after about 10 minutes. So a better alternative to realplayer is mplayer, which I installed from the tarball. It does not stop after so many minutes, but vsound cannot find its temporary file after it runs. Anybody out there use mplayer for music streams with vsound? Thanks. Hugo. __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mplayer and vsound
Better yet: mplayer does not need vsound. With the -ao pcm option, what you are listening to is dumped as a wavefile. One hitch, unlike the vsound -d option you cannot listen to what is recorded. But the annoying static bursts that used to occur with vsound and realplayer are gone. Mplayer is quite a tool. Without -cache 1000 I was getting crashes of MPlayer. Hugo __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Europe Charges Microsoft With Ongoing Antitrust Abuses
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/08/06/business/06WIRE-MSFT.html?hp Hugo __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mondo backup: is there someone successful ?
That Linux Journal article is a little old: refers to mondo 1.13 and stable is 1.66. I use 1.62. Both mondorestore and mondoarchive work. Archive has a fluke on my Debian Testing system: the CD that is created has not got vi so you have to use pico on the 2nd vc to edit files which he ignores on the primary vc. Other than that it does things well. I would love to create a bootable CD with midnight commander but so far no success. What are the errors you are getting? Hugo Vanwoerkom __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Knoppix - observations
I downloaded the Knoppix CD. Booting with it gets: 1. It does find everything, but not perfectly, e.g. the X screen. 2. I have a slowmodem to get onto the internet and for some reason I had to manually fill in the /etc/resolve.conf for anything to be found. Restoring a partition with it: 1. What already has been observed here: more than 100 apt sources! What a mess... But very nicely put together, although a little too GUI for my tastes. Hugo. __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
What to expect after XP installation on the other disc
Give him Knoppix that can show him a lot of Debian Linux without having to make any decision. Hugo. __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
linux(knoppix
Je kunt er in het nederlands over praten hier: http://unix-gg.hobby.nl/forums/index.php?bn=unixgg_knoppix Groetjes, Huug. __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
How to tell apt-get or dpkg to forget about a package?
Hi Debian Users! I use make-kpkg to create a new kernel-image for Knoppix and install it using dpkg. The install will go all the way except for a Failed-config because he is trying to create an initrd.img on /boot and cannot because there is no /etc/fstab around. There won't be a fstab because Knoppix from CD creates that on-the-fly. But everything is OK, he puts vmlinuz, etc. into /boot and creates /lib/modules/2.4.21-xfs. But... Now everytime when I use apt-get install he tries to re-install that kernel-image that I am already using. He displays the prose that make-kpkg creates and wants a "continue". At that point I hit Ctrl-c and he installs what I apt-getted. Question: how can I tell him to forget about the failed-config of kernel-image-2.4.21-xfs and leave it as is. I don't want to read about kernel-image everytime I install something... Eventually I will purge it, but not now because it is my remastered kernel? Thanks! Hugo. __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to tell apt-get or dpkg to forget about a package?
Thanks Russell! I did not know about the reference you quoted. But... I did not explain well enough! I do NOT want to remove the kernel-image package because it will remove my kernel which works very well. I just want "him" not to try to reinstall, because it is already installed, except for the initrd image which does not matter because it is not used by Knoppix! I cannot believe nobody else has run into this, they must not use make-kpkg nor the booted Knoppix CD to customize a kernel. Reading man dpkg I do not see an option that says: "do not try to reinstall the package"... Thanks again! Hugo Vanwoerkom __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to tell apt-get or dpkg to forget about a package?
I thought too about hold... So I did set the package to hold, has no effect: I apt-get install he gets and first tries to reinstall the kernel-package again, when I Ctrl-c out of that, he installs . May be I'll try the developers group. Thanks!! Hugo. __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
When is the time set to local time?
Hi, I think this subject has been beaten to death, but... I set /etc/localtime to point to /usr/share/zoneinfo/SystemV/CST6CDT, I set /etc/timezone to say "SystemV/CST6CDT" and I install chrony (or ntpdate) and they promptly set the clock to GMT, 7 hours ahead. http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Clock.html#toc2 says to do just what I did except it doesn't talk about /etc/timezone. Is there something else I can look at to find out what is happening? Thanks! Hugo Vanwoerkom __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
apt-preferences: is this right?
Hi all! Reading man apt_preferences I can *almost* get it, but being a doubter... As a happy user of Backstreet Ruby, the multi-seat Linux solution, I want to avoid that when Debian testing gets X 4.3.0, that its version will be installed. (Unless Debian will have Backstreet Ruby as an option! What an idea...) Instead I want all X code to come from here: http://www.schuldei.org/debian/bruby and I have in my sources list: deb /http://www.schuldei.org/debian/bruby/ ./ Now it works without an entry in apt preferences because testing isn't up to 4.3.0: the output of apt-cache policy: x-window-system: Installed: 4.3.0-0pre1v3 Candidate: 4.3.0-0pre1v3 Version Table: *** 4.3.0-0pre1v3 0 500 /http://www.schuldei.org ./ Packages 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status 4.2.1-12.1 0 500 ftp://ftp.at.debian.org testing/main Packages But once Debian *does* get 4.3.0, would this entry in the preferences file be appropriate? Package: * Pin: origin "www.schuldei.org/debian/bruby" Pin-Priority: 999 Yes? Thanks! Hugo. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: apt-preferences: is this right?
Andrew Schulman wrote: Package: * Pin: origin "www.schuldei.org/debian/bruby" Pin-Priority: 999 I think that will work. Unfortunately, the last time I looked, the "origin" feature is badly documented. So I'm not sure about the quotes, or how much of the URL you need. But for example, I have Package: k3b Pin: origin debian.org Pin-Priority: 991 and this does the trick. Good luck, Andrew. Thanks! I should have done this *before* I posted of course, but I googled and found one hit on "Pin: origin" and it did *not* have the quotes, so I will try that. Hugo. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: xfree86/x-server/x-window
Henrik wrote: Hello, I couldent find any other place to ask, and no one is intrested in helping in IRC. I have installed Debian, and conifgured it a bit(I think) Now, i need to login with user name and password(Im still in a shell-code, much like DOS) Then X-server tries to run(so i can get a grapical linux) Then this error comes: Process set to nice value 0 instead of -10 as requested. and when i write startx in the console, i get this error:Fatal error:No screens found, X connection to :0.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown) and when i write x -configure, this error comes: Fatal error: Xfree86 has found valid configuration. Unfortunately the appropiate data has not been added to xf86PciInfo.h. Please forward 'scanpci -v' output to xfree86 support them. When you search Google for that you'll find that it means he cannot find your card in the database. Still creates an XF86Config.new. You'll have to enclose the output of /var/log/XFree86.0.log for specific help. Also what your XF86Config looks like that produced that log. Hugo. Can you help me here? (= Im new to linux, so to say that i need to configure X or such wont help much, i need it step by step, command by command (; Henrik! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: virtual terminals become unusable when starting x on sid
navaja wrote: hi, i boot up, and get command prompt login. can use all vitual termninals. then i start x, with "startx" (with login manager i get the same problem). x starts, then i try to go back to a virtual terminal, and all i see is messed up lines going down my screen. thanks And what happens if you then go back to X (alt-ctrl-F7) and back again to the virtual terminal? Hugo. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Please, no GUI boot.
Mihalis I. Tsoukalos wrote: On Mon, Nov 17, 2003 at 10:10:20AM +0100, guran wrote: Hi I have a sarge installation and only got to chose between gdm and xdm. I have read the thread on "GUI login screen" and have a difficulty to decide what to do to get rid of a graphic login. regards guran /etc/init.d/gdm stop or /etc/init.d/xdm stop or use update-rc.d to remove them from the boot procedure. Damn. Now I find out. I always have done that by hand! Hugo. Mihalis. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Knoppix on top of woody
Ralph Bacolod wrote: Hi! I just bought a knoppix cd and i want to install it on my computer. I'd be interested: why do you want to install the Knoppix CD? The *installed* knoppix is Debian with zillions of packages. The Knoppix *CD* is Klaus Knopper's super scripts figuring out where everything is. The 2 are very different. Also, did you check: http://www.knoppix.net/forum/ ? That has a wealth of info on everything Knoppix. Hugo. I already have woody installed which is dual booting with XP. I have 2 questions. 1. I want to replace woody without overwriting my files in home. Is this feasible? Home by the way is a different partition .How do i go about it? Can you please show me good howto. Ive googled and it seems that there is a lack of clear documentation. 2. I dont have lilo on my mbr coz ive read that NTloader must be in command . So i just installed lilo on my root and let NTloader boot.. Is this still true? Is it ok if i just let LILO manage the booting? TIA Rafiks __ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
More apt-preferences
Hi! Having been straightened out by Andrew a few posts ago on preferences: he said that for him: Package: k3b Pin: origin debian.org Pin-Priority: 991 did the trick. So I now have as only entry in my /etc/apt/preferences: Package: * Pin: origin schuldei.org Pin-Priority: 999 Rationale: the man-page says about origin "fully qualified domain" and "debian.org" is really "www.debian.org" so I did the same for schuldei.org which is really "www.schuldei.org". In any case: I ran apt-get update on the sources list and I would expect that "apt-cache policy x-window-system" would show something of the preferences. It does not. It shows: x-window-system: Installed: 4.3.0-0pre1v3 Candidate: 4.3.0-0pre1v3 Version Table: *** 4.3.0-0pre1v3 0 500 http://www.schuldei.org ./ Packages 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status 4.2.1-12.1 0 500 http://ftp.uni-erlangen.de testing/main Packages Shouln't I see something of what I put in the preferences? Or not? Thanks! Hugo. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
sarge net.iso
Hi! Because of previous posts that the "stable" sarge netiso was not booting I downloaded the 11/15 version on Sunday. Very fast server: could do it easy on my 56kb line. It boots. The menu sequence seems messed up: the selection stays put on network install. Debootstrap kept failing with no easy way to find out why other than a cryptic message of something like error(2). I like the font that is used a lot. It did nothing apparently due to the mentioned error. Output should be put on the other vc, but isn't. No doubt these are all temporary glitches. But now that you have a CD it brings up the intriguing(sp?) possibility of remastering it like you do with Knoppix... I favor having mc around or vfu so you can find your way around the filesystem more easily. Hugo. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: More apt-preferences
Andrew Schulman wrote: So I now have as only entry in my /etc/apt/preferences: Package: * Pin: origin schuldei.org Pin-Priority: 999 Rationale: the man-page says about origin "fully qualified domain" and "debian.org" is really "www.debian.org" so I did the same for schuldei.org which is really "www.schuldei.org". In any case: I ran apt-get update on the sources list and I would expect that "apt-cache policy x-window-system" would show something of the preferences. It does not. It shows: x-window-system: Installed: 4.3.0-0pre1v3 Candidate: 4.3.0-0pre1v3 Version Table: *** 4.3.0-0pre1v3 0 500 http://www.schuldei.org ./ Packages 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status 4.2.1-12.1 0 500 http://ftp.uni-erlangen.de testing/main Packages Shouln't I see something of what I put in the preferences? Or not? Okay, I looked back at this. Sure enough, the "origin" Pin does seem to want the FQDN, not just the suffix. Or at least, that's the way the output of apt-cache policy makes it look... although I think the Pin still works. Oh well, add it to the list of APT mysteries. Try it out and see if it works for you. But I still wonder: when does the preference (or does it?) show up in the policy? H. (Tip: I use apt-cache policy and apt-cache search so often, I gave them shell aliases: alias acp='apt-cache policy' alias acs='apt-cache search' Also alias acg='apt-cache showpkg' alias acw='apt-cache show' are useful.) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SVG graphics and mozilla
Dave Howorth wrote: Mozilla crashes whenever I try to display an SVG graphic :( so I'm trying to work out how to display the graphic instead :) I'm running Woody with mozilla 1.2.1 (Mozilla Debian Package 1.2.1-2.bunk - Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.2.1) Gecko/20021213 Debian/1.2.1-2.bunk). As far as I can see, SVG is not yet fully supported by mozilla natively, even if I went to the bleeding edge. And there don't seem to be any Debian packages at all - a search for svg turns up only SVGA-related things. So it seems I need to look elsewhere. Mozilla says the most popular plugin is that from Adobe. Adobe's offering for Linux seems to be: RedHat Linux 7.1 3.0 beta 1 11/2001, which doesn't fill me with expectations of a stable product either! Does anyone know how well this works? Or have alternative suggestions for SVG support? Thanks, Dave I use Batik for SVG. Works very well: http://xml.apache.org/batik/index.html completely java based. SVG is only partially supported in mozilla, if you get the source. Hugo. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: Flatbed scanner recommendation?
Kjetil Kjernsmo wrote: Dear all, Well, I guess many of you have been through this, so allthough it may be somewhat OT, I hope it can be enlightening. My father needs a new flatbed scanner, something in the NOK 800 range (that's about USD or Euro 110). He has a workstation running Woody with some backports, so obviously, it has to work well with Debian. I've told him he needs to be a conscious consumer and stay away from the companies that have objectionable policies. I'd like to buy from a company that openly supports free software, who has at least assisted driver developers, resisted any DRM, and are known to be friendly. I'm aware of the list at http://www.sane-project.org/sane-mfgs.html but that doesn't say anything about company policies. Something like the linuxprinting.org's Vendor Scorecard would be great (allthough that is also lacking. For example, Lexmark would be out of the question on the printer side with their DMCA lawsuit). Anybody here have any recommendations? I have an Epson Perfection 1250 installed. Works like a charm with Debian -- provided you discovered to change the /etc/sane.d/plustek.conf file. I have described the install experience here: http://home.planet.nl/~woerk095/epson1250.html I thought at the time it was a very good description. I no longer think so now. To install Debian support for the scanner all you have to do is: apt-get install xsane and that gets you everything. Like I said: not the knowledge that it is the plustek.conf file in /etc/sane.d/plustek.conf Running diff -b on the changes I made to that I get this: 52c52,54 < [usb] --- > [usb] 0x04B8 0x010F > #[usb] > #device /dev/usbscanner0 133c135,136 < device auto --- > device /dev/usb/scanner0 > #device auto Also I have this in my /etc/modules for the scanner: options scanner vendor=0x04b8 product=0x010f and I have the scanner USB driver loaded in my super duper Backstreet Ruby 2.4.22 kernel. But that is not needed because Debian will pull libusb in which will do without that driver. As far as operation: it is the same complaint always: the thing comes with Windoze instructions and buttons: 4 buttons in the front of the machine that have no function except for M$. Also it does not have a power-off button but an ac-dc converter that you plug in. Other than that it is faultless: runs like a charm, but slow of course, it is a low-end scanner. Hope this helps. Hugo. He's been looking at a Canon, how's their history? Cheers, Kjetil -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Logitech MX310 mouse: Dead extra button?
Tom wrote: On Wed, Nov 19, 2003 at 05:53:09PM -0600, Nick Welch wrote: ... Could you possibly do me a favor and run 'xev', and then put your mouse cursor over it, and hit that button, and then report whether anything comes out? Nothing comes out, when I press it nor when I move it. I never installed the special software in Windows. I hate installing vendor's goofy extensions. I bought this mouse specifically because it had lots of buttons, and didn't have a completely ridiculous price ($30). At least a *somewhat* reasonable price.. $50 or $80 is just ridiculous to me for a mouse, I don't care how many buttons it has. I'm not sure what I'll use them for exactly yet, but I know I'll find good uses for them. For example, I currently use alt+mouse wheel to raise/lower windows, and I turn off all auto raising on click/hover/etc. I like this *a lot*. The ability to launch special applications when I press buttons doesn't "press my buttons" :-) Do they work as back/forward in Moz? That would be useful. (I wonder if anyone has gotten Microsoft's new side-to-side scrolling wheel working either...) I bought an A4Tech WOP-35PU optical wheel mouse for $11. It has 2 wheels and 5 buttons: two "normal" ones, two on the side and one wheel is a button. I use it as a regular 1 wheel mouse but the 2nd wheel is intended for side to side. I tried: Option "Buttons" "9" Option "ZAxisMapping" "6 7 8 9" but that did not have the desired effect and I could not use the wheels at all. I'd also be interested in getting the 2nd wheel to effect the side to side bars of mozilla. Hugo. The main reason I bought it was I got tired of replacing my mouse batteries every week or two. (I use my computer for much longer per day and probably move the mouse more than the "statstically average" user the engineers designed for.) Tom's Hardware says great things about the optical engine in the mouse, and I like the way the pads slide. When I worked at Microsoft I always bought the latest/greatest mouse/keyboard combo, because at the company store each was never more than $25. Now in my post-Microsoft life I wanted to make a statement: I wanted a mouse that met Microsoft "on its own terms" and succeeded (as opposed to a cheezy 'good-enough' philosophy). I still haven't replaced my Natural Keyboard -- I look at Frys, and haven't seen a superior keyboard that with the same design-values as the Natural -- only a bunch of wireless things I don't trust because of security paranoia. If you do feel like making them work, consider my original message a mini how-to. ;) -- Nick Welch aka mackstann | mack @ incise.org | http://incise.org Earn cash in your spare time -- blackmail your friends -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: X Won't Start
Mark Healey wrote: I previously posted this under a different subject heading and got no response so I'm trying again. My X won't work with the default installation. When I boot it tries to start it and after several attempts I get a message telling me to look at the log followed by one asking if I want to try automatic configuration. I did that and nothing changed. Someone Suggested that I boot knoppix and copy /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 from there to my hd and reboot. I did that. X started but with no mouse movement. Just a cursor. I have no idea where to go from here. Sure you do. Go with the Knoppix XF86Config-4 and change the pointer section until the mouse works. Have you ever got X to work with a Linux distrib? Hugo. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Logitech MX310 mouse: Dead extra button?
Vineet Kumar wrote: * Hugo Vanwoerkom ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [031120 10:19]: * Tom wrote: The ability to launch special applications when I press buttons doesn't "press my buttons" :-) Do they work as back/forward in Moz? That would be useful. (I wonder if anyone has gotten Microsoft's new side-to-side scrolling wheel working either...) I bought an A4Tech WOP-35PU optical wheel mouse for $11. It has 2 wheels and 5 buttons: two "normal" ones, two on the side and one wheel is a button. I use it as a regular 1 wheel mouse but the 2nd wheel is intended for side to side. I tried: Option "Buttons" "9" Option "ZAxisMapping" "6 7 8 9" but that did not have the desired effect and I could not use the wheels at all. I'd also be interested in getting the 2nd wheel to effect the side to side bars of mozilla. Does xev show anything for those wheel events? Vineet: I booted with it yesterday and xev then shows both wheels as "6 7", and the 5 buttons (left side, left button, middle button, right button, right side) as 2, 1, 2, 3, 3. Hugo. FWIW, Mozilla reponds to buttons 4 and 5 as vertical scrolling and 6 and 7 for horizontal scrolling. good times, Vineet -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (unofficial) Debian project list status
Karsten M. Self wrote: I've been lurking on the #debian-devel IRC channel, some info on lists. This is an unofficial informational posting. If you weren't already aware, several Debian project servers were compromised by what appears to have been a password capture through one of the Debian Developers. This includes murphy, the listserver. Debian archives do _not_ appear to have been compromised. More details will be forthcoming through official sources. - Lists are processing again. - There's an adminstrative hold on messages posted between when the lists went down and were brought up again. Depending on your timezone -- late Thursday the 20th through late Monday the 24th. If you desperately need to see your message(s) posted, you might resubmit. Expect some out-of-order delivery for a while. - There was a postfix upgrade which may be related to the above. - Things may be a little shakey for a few days yet, so be patient. Systems are being rebuilt from scratch, developers are resetting passwords and ssh access, and a lot of people are checking personal and project systems. Pascal Hakim (listmaster for the Debian project) may have more to say but is holding off until he can speak more authoritatively (I've clearly got no such scruples). Overall the response and speed of disclosure by the Debian project team is commendable. For updates: Back online, with informational links. http://www.debian.org/ Out-of-band information on the exploit, affected systems, cleanup/detection procedures, http://www.wiggy.net/debian/ Major informational sites: http://slashdot.org/ http://lwn.net/ http://www.sourceforge.net/ IRC: *READ THE TOPIC BEFORE ASKING QUESTIONS! irc://irc.debian.org/#debian irc://irc.freenode.net/#debian You might want to check that you're subscribed to debian-announce and/or debian-security-announce. Some notifications were posted to these lists before murphy went down, not all subscribers saw these apparently. Again, this is unofficial, though I've had some dd's look over the bullet points above. Thought it would be useful to subscribers. Peace. Great to see you back. Was an interesting experience: PC's are nothing without Debian... Hugo. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: usb mouse
Simon Tod wrote: I'm having no luck in getting a USB Mouse to work... /etc/fstab reports: none /proc/bus/usb usbfs defaults 0 0 On boot up into a Knoppix 2.4.20-xfs kernel I always get... usb.c: registered new driver usbdevfs usb.c: registered new driver hub usb-uhci.c: $Revision: 1.275 $ time 18:50:40 Nov 15 2003 usb-uhci.c: High bandwidth mode enabled usb-uhci.c: USB UHCI at I/O 0xfce0, IRQ 9 usb-uhci.c: Detected 2 ports usb.c: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 1 hub.c: USB hub found hub.c: 2 ports detected usb-uhci.c: v1.275:USB Universal Host Controller Interface driver with the mouse plugged in when I boot, I additionally get... usb.c: new USB device 00:07.2-1, assigned address 2 usb.c: USB device 2 (vend/prod 0x45e/0x39) is not claimed by any active driver usb.c: registered new driver hiddev usb.c: registered new driver hid usb-uhci.c: interrupt, status 3, frame # 231 input0: USB HID v1.10 Mouse [ Microsoft Microsoft 5-Button Mouse with IntelliEye(TM)] on usb1:2.0 hid-core.c: v1.81.1 Andreas Gal, Vojtech Pavlik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> hid-core.c: USB HID support drivers lsmod reports the additional modules keybdev, hid, mousedev and input in addition to usbcore and usb-uhci that are always there. As far as I can tell the mouse is recognised (albeit a Microsoft mouse borrowed from work...!?), so what more do I need to do to get it working? Using my 2.4.22 kernel I get a complaint of failed attempt to load keybdev, but then, I disabled that in my kernel compilation. Why do I need keybdev for a mouse anyway?! Get rid of that failure by adding a dir to your /etc/modutils, like /etc/modutils/local and put in there: # Special actions to get rid of keybdev... # #Linux.debian.user 11/12/2003 13:16 # #Kjetil Kjernsmo #Astrophysicist/IT Consultant/Skeptic/Ski-orienteer/Orienteer/Mountaineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] #Homepage: http://www.kjetil.kjernsmo.net/OpenPGP KeyID: 6A6A0BBC # #The advice I got was to add above hid usbcore #to /etc/modutils/local (or somewhere equivalent). I added the comments of where I got the advice... Hugo Thanks... = --- Simon Tod [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo! Messenger http://mail.messenger.yahoo.co.uk -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: usb mouse
Simon Tod wrote: I'm having no luck in getting a USB Mouse to work... /etc/fstab reports: none /proc/bus/usb usbfs defaults 0 0 On boot up into a Knoppix 2.4.20-xfs kernel I always get... usb.c: registered new driver usbdevfs usb.c: registered new driver hub usb-uhci.c: $Revision: 1.275 $ time 18:50:40 Nov 15 2003 usb-uhci.c: High bandwidth mode enabled usb-uhci.c: USB UHCI at I/O 0xfce0, IRQ 9 usb-uhci.c: Detected 2 ports usb.c: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 1 hub.c: USB hub found hub.c: 2 ports detected usb-uhci.c: v1.275:USB Universal Host Controller Interface driver with the mouse plugged in when I boot, I additionally get... usb.c: new USB device 00:07.2-1, assigned address 2 usb.c: USB device 2 (vend/prod 0x45e/0x39) is not claimed by any active driver usb.c: registered new driver hiddev usb.c: registered new driver hid usb-uhci.c: interrupt, status 3, frame # 231 input0: USB HID v1.10 Mouse [ Microsoft Microsoft 5-Button Mouse with IntelliEye(TM)] on usb1:2.0 hid-core.c: v1.81.1 Andreas Gal, Vojtech Pavlik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> hid-core.c: USB HID support drivers lsmod reports the additional modules keybdev, hid, mousedev and input in addition to usbcore and usb-uhci that are always there. As far as I can tell the mouse is recognised (albeit a Microsoft mouse borrowed from work...!?), so what more do I need to do to get it working? Using my 2.4.22 kernel I get a complaint of failed attempt to load keybdev, but then, I disabled that in my kernel compilation. Why do I need keybdev for a mouse anyway?! Get rid of that failure by adding a dir to your /etc/modutils, like /etc/modutils/local and put in there: # Special actions to get rid of keybdev... # #Linux.debian.user 11/12/2003 13:16 # #Kjetil Kjernsmo #Astrophysicist/IT Consultant/Skeptic/Ski-orienteer/Orienteer/Mountaineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] #Homepage: http://www.kjetil.kjernsmo.net/OpenPGP KeyID: 6A6A0BBC # #The advice I got was to add above hid usbcore #to /etc/modutils/local (or somewhere equivalent). I added the comments of where I got the advice... Hugo Thanks... = --- Simon Tod [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo! Messenger http://mail.messenger.yahoo.co.uk -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: why not my box automatically power-off?
Akira Kitada wrote: Hi all. Refering "debian-reference", I'm configuring Debian for learning debian(and my convenience). One of my intention is make debian auto power-off when I invoke "shutdown -h now". for that, I've done the following configurations. (in /etc/lilo.conf) append="apm=on apm=power-off noapic" # echo "apm power_off=1" >>/etc/modules root:/boot# grep 'APM' config-2.4.22 CONFIG_APM=y # CONFIG_APM_IGNORE_USER_SUSPEND is not set # CONFIG_APM_DO_ENABLE is not set # CONFIG_APM_CPU_IDLE is not set # CONFIG_APM_DISPLAY_BLANK is not set # CONFIG_APM_RTC_IS_GMT is not set # CONFIG_APM_ALLOW_INTS is not set CONFIG_APM_REAL_MODE_POWER_OFF=y then, I shutdown the system, but it don't power-off.just say "system halt" as before. why not? I find the kernel docs on this subject, let's say, dense. But may be I am dense. Anyway, this is what I have, and it works: CONFIG_PM=y CONFIG_APM=y # CONFIG_APM_IGNORE_USER_SUSPEND is not set # CONFIG_APM_DO_ENABLE is not set # CONFIG_APM_CPU_IDLE is not set # CONFIG_APM_DISPLAY_BLANK is not set # CONFIG_APM_RTC_IS_GMT is not set # CONFIG_APM_ALLOW_INTS is not set # CONFIG_APM_REAL_MODE_POWER_OFF is not set # # ACPI Support # # CONFIG_ACPI is not set You can see the entire thing here: http://home.planet.nl/~woerk095/config The configuration if For Backstreet Ruby, Linux multi-user option. Hugo. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: what I'm wondering is ...
Monique Y. Herman wrote: Will there be a sudden flood of the messages that weren't processed in the last several days, or are they just lost? Yep! Reply posted yesterday turned up today. But all this is very interesting: I depend very much upon Debian: its mailing lists and its archives... Yesterday and today: cannot get to packages.debian.org. Hugo. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: I`cant create boot disk on fd0
Joxny wrote: I try to create floppy boot disk, but something is wrong. I study method in how-to-bootdisk, and I`d like create single bootdisk with lilo. But when start my system it only write: Uncompresing linux...ok, booting the kernel. and it`s all. Where is the problem ? (sorry for my english) Thanks. You have to describe your problem better. There is a one-disk rescue disk. It will boot into an already existing root partition. There is no one disk "bootdisk" for Debian. There is a two disk Debian install process. Did you follow this? http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch-install-methods.en.html There is also a one disk boot disk by Tom Oehser, here: http://www.toms.net/rb/ but that is not Debian and it assumes a lot of console know-how. Hugo. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Adding packages to basedebs.tar
Hi List! I had this crazy notion to add some packages to Debian 3.01r2, because when I create a system from scratch it for one has a terrible console font and for two it doesn't have a decent file manager. So first I discovered upon googling that the way to change the root disk was appended to my own post of a while ago... http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&threadm=slrnacuaa1.aj.jono%40squid.home&rnum=3&prev=/groups%3Fsafe%3Dimages%26ie%3DISO-8859-1%26as_ugroup%3Dlinux.debian.user%26as_usubject%3Ddebian%2520instal%2520from%26as_scoring%3Dd%26lr%3D%26num%3D100%26hl%3Den Doing that it turns out that dbootstrap does the job. But I still have trouble because of an inaccessible packages.debian.org to find where boot-floppies.tar.gz is. And maybe it isn't necessary to change dbootstrap. Anyway: just adding woody packages to basedebs doesn't work: Error: /dist/woody/release was not pre-downloaded. Anybody know of a description of how to do this? It would be sort of interesting: I use basedebs on a partition that he looks for and I would just have to add things to that, which is a lot easier than doing it when the PPP connection is first established... Thanks! Hugo. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] True Spam, was Holiday Gifts
Michael Dominok wrote: On Wed, 2003-11-26 at 14:33, Dennis wrote: Please think of Fairbury Steaks for your holiday needs. We have been in business since 1937, most recently marketing our premium quality meats online at www.FairburySteaks.com -- Check us out there, or call toll free at 1-877-316-9266 to request a catalog. Receive a 7% Holiday discount with this promotional code FBY070581. Be sure to enter that code, or mention it if you call. Is he suggesting we should put some raw meat, as presents, underneath the christmas-tree??? Is there any place in the world where that wouldn't seem pythonesque? Anyway, if they got products from Hormel in their catalog this Spam is about Spam. Hm, anyone laughing? Pardon me. Michael Yes! But it seems that irony is lost on spammers. As the matter of fact everything is lost on spammers, spamming spam or not. I get a daily load of Russian spam although I know not a word of Russian. Spam: noise that eats up much needed bandwidth... What better symbol for this information age? Hugo. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Usable X login/starter in Debian needed
Otto Wyss wrote: Isn't there a usable X login/starter in Debian. I've tried XDM (doesn't allow shutdown, looks awfull), login.app (can't start my otherwise perfect running X). I won't try GDM (requires too much of gnome), KDM (requires too much of KDM). Does anyone know a simple solution? O. Wyss But as soon as you say "usable X login/starter" with those requirements you are already adding despite your "too much"... ;-) So I have found that the best one with the minimal "too much" is still GDM on the advice of the Backstreet Ruby folks: it does the best job of starting X servers right and allows shutdown, etc. Hugo. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: fonts in Mozilla
Alf Werder wrote: On Fri, 2003-11-28 at 06:17, H. S. wrote: In my newly intalled and dist-upgraded Debian system, I get crapy fonts in Mozilla(version 1.5). How do I get the nice anti-aliased fonts? Install 'mozilla-xft'. -alf True. But I note that even after that, my fonts suddenly get better yet when I install cups... Anybody know why? Hugo. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: shopping
Tom Badran wrote: On Friday 28 November 2003 13:02, Rus Foster wrote: On Fri, 28 Nov 2003, Richard Kimber wrote: All I can think of:- 2 boxes Tesco 3-ply paper hankies Radio Times 1 tin Crapso Olives Peregrino Water 1 box tonic Grab a pack of 12 guiness whilst there :) To continue with this random thread, my shopping from yesterday was: Large bottle cider bag chestnuts cauliflower Rich tea biscuits Fairly bizarre Tom I went into Oaxaca this morning by bicycle and picked up 5 large bolillos (rolls) with ajonjolí (sesame seeds) for 2 pesos each, because the usual bag with 12 day-old rolls, 5 pesos for the bag, was not there. Very tasty. I recommend the place: before the bus-stop to Esquipulas around the corner. Hugo. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: is it possible to use newsgroups?
mighty sword wrote: Hi, I am new to all this lists stuff. I have primarily used newsgroups readers till now. I have just subscribed to debian-user list from my linuxmail account, found that inconvenient and unsubscribed, and again subscribed from this yahoo account. So from this new email account, how do I reply to the messages that I had read in my linuxmail account? And even though I have subscribed to this list, can I instead use linux.debian.user or gmane.linux.debian.user to read and post messages? Is it me or is that the newsgroups and newsreaders are much more convenient and organized to read/post messages? ->HS __ Do you Yahoo!? Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now http://companion.yahoo.com/ I use google for searching and gmane for posting and checking immediately. Gmane seems to have caught up after the disaster that struck. Hugo. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: X won't start
Mark Healey wrote: Now that I have the networking fixed and sort of figured out the mouse problem I'm ready to tackle X not starting. When I boot I get a couple of attempts for gdm to start. After that fails there is an error message stating Fatal server error: no screens found. I tried xf86config and had to abandon it when my video card wasn't listed. It wasn't listed as an option during the installation process. I'm assuming that that is the problem. Is it likely? I did apt-cache search radeon and found nothing. Am I even going in the right direction? I'm attaching the error log and config file - Please leave this. It is a filter term. ferulebezel - Mark Healey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Don't bothor CCing or emailing this address. Since spammers seem to be harvesting this list anything that doesn't come from the list server is assumed to be spam and deleted. ASUS A87V8X mobo w AMD Athalon Broadcom 4401 onboard nic with static IP Address ATI All-In-Wonder 9700 Video card. Sampo Alphascan 17mx monitor What happens when you do: X -configure Does it generate a XF86Config.new? Can you startx that? Hugo. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Setting text mode in the console
Cruncher wrote: Anybody know whether and how I can set text modes in the console? I'm running woody, on a Pentium 200 with ATI Mach 64 chipset. I've installed svgalib, svgatextmode and fbset but I can't see how to change my text mode from 80x25. I've put vga=ask in the boot script (or whatever you call it) which gives me available modes - which I can select during the boot process and which work momentarily, but then linux continues to load and resets the mode back to 80x25. Why do I want to do this? I'm running prboom and quakeforge (nq-sdl) in textmode, and I want higher resolution... - C But you installed SvgaTextMode! It has the ATI Mach64 chipset. So play with the /etc/TextConfig file. The command is "stm". I prefer SvgaTextMode to framebuffers, but sadly it is no longer supported, meaning the newer cards go unsupported. Especially with Backstreet Ruby stm does very well. I have posted my TextConfig file here: http://home.planet.nl/~woerk095/TextConfig As you can see I have set "chipset RIVA128" and use B124x48 as the mode. So try "chipset ATIMACH64" You'll like it... Hugo. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Possible LKM Trojan , Need Help
Thomas H. George wrote: chkrootkit reported possible LKM Trojan. 4 processes hidden for ps command. Bug in chrootkit. Check Debian Bugs. Has been discussed here before. Before reformating the hard drive and reinstalling Debian, started a dvd backup using growisofs. The backup of /usr was successful, backup of /var failed with duplicate names in /rr_moved. Obviously I would like to delete /rr_moved but it is hidden from me. Is there any way to do this? In the mean time I am continuing the backup on the assumption that I might retrieve specific files without reconatiminating the system. The backup of /home was successful with the warning "missing whole name for 'rr_moved'" Tom -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Downside to Aptitude?
M. Kirchhoff wrote: I've recently started using aptitude from the console instead of apt-get for package management on my Woody systems. I find some of the features, like the ability to do a "--with-suggests", quite useful. It seems like Aptitude does a better job of handling dependencies as well. Are there any pitfalls when using Aptitude to manage a system? For example, running aptitude update && aptitude upgrade instead of apt-get update && apt-get upgrade Is Aptitude being pushed as the replacement for dselect, or perhaps as an eventual replacement for apt-get? Thanks for any thoughts. -- me.kirchhoff So I installed aptitude. It appears that apt-get dist-upgrade and aptitude dist-upgrade do exactly the same thing. Even look exactly alike... To avoid shooting myself (in the foot) I do a mondoarchive before so I can restore easily... Hugo. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: shopping
Richard Kimber wrote: On Fri, 28 Nov 2003 14:05:45 + Ken <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Fri 28 Nov 2003 13:02, Rus Foster wrote: On Fri, 28 Nov 2003, Richard Kimber wrote: All I can think of:- 2 boxes Tesco 3-ply paper hankies Radio Times 1 tin Crapso Olives Peregrino Water 1 box tonic Grab a pack of 12 guiness whilst there :) Rus You cant have guinness without salty peanuts either Sorry folks. Dunno what happened. - Richard You were on your way shopping. Can you remember anything at all? Hugo. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: questions/comments about new sarge installer & LILO
tripolar wrote: I have used the new sarge installer alot in the last week and am pretty impressed. Thanks to all responsible. But where do you get the iso file from? I still cannot get to gluck on Debian. Hugo. A few things that seem different are 1) the way discs are labeled in lilo for example: /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/disc I am guessing because Debian is the Universal OS and all the different platforms it supports has warranted this change from /dev/hda1. I need to figure out how to get lilo to pick up and boot /dev/hda2. I ran lilo after editing lilo.conf- it didnt pick up m$ partition and commented about name change because I used /dev/hda2 versus .../target0/lun0/disc Where are docs about /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/disc naming scheme? 2)I was surprised to see lilo start straight way without any prompt nor any delay. maybe I did something wrong :-) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
irc equivalent to linux.debian.user?
Hi list! Is there an irc equivalent to linux.debian.user? Thanks! Hugo. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Linux Sound Issues
Paul Burkett wrote: I've been having a helluva time to get sound working decently in Linux. The issue isn't so much quality (though I do notice a slight difference in quality compared to Windows, nothing to complain about) but that fact that is skips whenever I do anything that requires CPU resources. I may be way off, of course, but I ran into this problem and it had nothing to do with sound but with the fact that did not have VIA82CXXX enabled under IDE, ATA and ATAPI Block Devices. Result was that with any disk access the disk would "hang" for seconds and the sound would stop. You might look into that too... Hugo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
libcupsys dist-upgrade Sarge
Hi list! I did a Sarge dist-upgrade (after backing up the partition with mondoarchive) and got 71 packages upgraded. It went with blazing speed (4.4Kb/sec) on my 56kb line. However... After the installation I get this error from Xprt: debian Xprt_64: lpc: /usr/lib/libgnutls.so.7: no version information available (required by /usr/lib/libcups.so.2) That (libcups) got upgraded by this guy: libcupsys2_1.1.20candidate6-6_i386.deb That message does not show up before the upgrade. Problem is my cartridges ran out on my canon BJC-2110 printer at the same time, or because of it, I cannot tell. Has anybody gotten anything similar? I googled but did not find that message... It could just be a warning message... Thanks! Hugo. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: irc equivalent to linux.debian.user?
Jerome BENOIT wrote: Hello List ! here are naive questions: What is the basic tools provided with Debian (Sarge) to do IRC ? Is there a Gnome interface ? Since I have mozilla 1.5 and 1.6a compiled with xft from their source I use chatzilla. Hugo. Greg Folkert wrote: On Sun, 2003-11-30 at 10:11, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Hi list! Is there an irc equivalent to linux.debian.user? Yes, irc.debian.org #debian Thanks, Jeromre -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Modem detection and installation problems
Eric Dickner wrote: Hello All, I have a BCM V.90 56K Modem (PCI Bus 1, device 4, function 0) on an Intel Pentium 4 that the debian configuration software never did detect. I went on to try and configure PPP as best I could... When I try to use 'pon' I get messages about looking for ethernet cards instead of any dialilng. I believe the OS just has no idea that there is a modem installed. I have not found anything in the Debian manuals about all this; most of the advice seems to be for machines attached to networks. A wider search of of the web got me lots of inapplicable advice (references to hand-editing configuration files that are not in /etc/ mostly). Where do I go for information on this? Thank You, Eric Dickner http://www.linmodems.org/ Hugo. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Now We Are Rollin'
Monique Y. Herman wrote: On Sun, 30 Nov 2003 at 20:00 GMT, Paul Morgan penned: On Sun, 30 Nov 2003 11:37:56 -0700, Monique Y. Herman wrote: On Sun, 30 Nov 2003 at 12:04 GMT, Paul Morgan penned: You have a fair chance of gaining some unexpected experience points by logging into X as root, unless you are unplugging all external network devices first. Not allowing root access to X is pretty much at the top of my "never, ever do this under any circumstances" list. There are several ways in which you can get hurt, none of which I wish to advertise in an open forum. Security through obscurity? C'mon, now! Inquiring minds want to know! Very funny, kiddo :) I was genuinely curious ... but hey, whatever. I rarely even run X, let alone as root! I don't want to get anyone's system fscked up, they're all pretty much documented in security howtos, etc. Anyway, if one *doesn't* allow root login access to X, one can't accidentally do dumb stuff like execute IRC clients, etc. IIRC, either xchat or bitchx ... probably bitchx ... won't even let you run as root. and GDM won't let you login as root... Hugo. I am an expert on doing dumb stuff, but even I have limits :) I have yet to fully explore my limits, I'm sure =P -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Modem detection and installation problems
Paul Morgan wrote: On Sun, 30 Nov 2003 12:17:41 -0500, Eric Dickner wrote: This is not meant as a smartass answer, but, as "real" modems are relatively cheap, I would respectfully suggest that you consider getting one instead of using CPU cycles running a winmodem. I second that. Even at a higher price where I live, I consider the money well spent on my US Robotics external modem. It is immediately found all the time. The hassle of getting winmodems to work just ain't worth it. Hugo. You want to look for a "controller-based" modem, as opposed to a "controllerless" or "windows" modem. The ones which have "especially made for Windows XP" or something similar on the box are "controllerless" modems. IMO, that label ought to be a big red one with "WARNING - CHEAP AND NASTY" on the top. For example, you can get a US Robotics Performance Pro V.92 PCI controller-based faxmodem via pricewatch.com for only $49 inclusive. (It's the modem I use which is why I looked it up in particular). Then, if your current modem is removable, you can take it out and give it to someone you don't like :) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: nvidia vs ati
Elie De Brauwer wrote: On Sunday 30 November 2003 00:15, Frank Thomas wrote: Gerard Ceraso wrote: I am planning on getting a new video card. I have a nvidia geforce2 right now and it works great under linux. I have not had any problems. I have noticed that some of the Ati cards seem to have a bit better performance in some of the tests on the hardware review sites. I was wondering how the Ati support for linux is. My system is currently has an Asus A7N8X Deluxe with an AMD 2400+ and 1G of 3200 ram. Let's do some benchmarking I have a PIV 2.8 ghz (800 mhz fsb), 1 gig ddr 400 ram and an geforce fx 5900 ultra with 256 meg ram. When running X at 1600x1200 resolution I get about 4800 fps in glxgears Any other results ? Very interesting, you people already left? Running on my superduper Backstreet Ruby! with 2 17" monitors on 2 videocards: 00:0b.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV18 [GeForce4 MX 440 AGP 8x] (rev a2) 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV5M64 [RIVA TNT2 Model 64/Model 64 Pro] (rev 15) and my CPU: Detected 850.039 MHz processor. Then I get running glxgears on the first card, which is a PCI card and actually the "second" because it does not have the VGA Text Consoles: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ glxgears 5028 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1005.600 FPS 4495 frames in 5.0 seconds = 899.000 FPS 5568 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1113.600 FPS 5914 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1182.800 FPS 4612 frames in 5.0 seconds = 922.400 FPS 5730 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1146.000 FPS 5911 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1182.200 FPS and THEN running same on the second card: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ glxgears 2567 frames in 5.0 seconds = 513.400 FPS 2124 frames in 5.0 seconds = 424.800 FPS 2401 frames in 5.0 seconds = 480.200 FPS 2577 frames in 5.0 seconds = 515.400 FPS 2115 frames in 5.0 seconds = 423.000 FPS 2417 frames in 5.0 seconds = 483.400 FPS 2578 frames in 5.0 seconds = 515.600 FPS So that shows that the MX440 has twice the speed of the TNT2 (and twice the price, but is it worth it?) But if I run BOTH AT THE SAME TIME, the MX440 shows: 1904 frames in 5.0 seconds = 380.800 FPS 2657 frames in 5.0 seconds = 531.400 FPS 2700 frames in 5.0 seconds = 540.000 FPS 2374 frames in 5.0 seconds = 474.800 FPS 2961 frames in 5.0 seconds = 592.200 FPS 2847 frames in 5.0 seconds = 569.400 FPS 2218 frames in 5.0 seconds = 443.600 FPS 3017 frames in 5.0 seconds = 603.400 FPS and the TNT2: 1199 frames in 5.0 seconds = 239.800 FPS 1244 frames in 5.0 seconds = 248.800 FPS 1072 frames in 5.0 seconds = 214.400 FPS 1350 frames in 5.0 seconds = 270.000 FPS 1278 frames in 5.0 seconds = 255.600 FPS 1003 frames in 5.0 seconds = 200.600 FPS 1373 frames in 5.0 seconds = 274.600 FPS 1710 frames in 5.0 seconds = 342.000 FPS 1974 frames in 5.0 seconds = 394.800 FPS Shows that the framerate dropped by half again for both but that the MX440 is still twice as fast. If I may summarize: Roberto Sanchez XP2500+ dri 2400 fps ati 1920 fps Paul Morgan 1.34 Ghz ati 4030 fps Johann Koenig 900 Mhz MX440SE 550 fps Jamin Collins XP2400+ FX5200 3700 fps myself 850 Mhz MX440 1150 fps TNT2 500 fps You guys still there? I don't understand why Johann gets only 550 fps with a processor and card similar to mine, should be twice as fast. The way glxgears is run? I just said "glxgears". Statistically I am not sure we all ran the same benchmark. Seems safe to say you will speed up when you get a faster processor ;-) I attach ps axf Hugo. Script started on Mon Dec 1 09:44:05 2003 /home/hugoMon Dec 01-09:44:05HDB5# exitps axf PID TTY STAT TIME COMMAND 1 ?S 0:04 init [2] 2 ?SW 0:00 [keventd] 3 ?SW 0:00 [kapmd] 0 ?SWN0:00 [ksoftirqd_CPU0] 0 ?SW 0:00 [kswapd] 0 ?SW 0:00 [bdflush] 0 ?SW 0:00 [kupdated] 10 ?SW 0:00 [kseriod] 63 ?SW 0:00 [khubd] 630 ?S 0:00 /sbin/syslogd 636 ?S 0:00 /sbin/klogd 639 ?S 0:00 /usr/local/sbin/chronyd -r 660 ?S 0:00 /usr/sbin/cupsd 675 ?S 0:09 /usr/sbin/gpm -m /dev/input/mouse0br -t ps2 -r 15 -S "/sbin/poweroff" 680 ?S 0:00 /usr/sbin/inetd 685 ?S< 0:00 /usr/bin/nasd -b 717 ?S 0:00 /usr/bin/X11/xfs -daemon 792 ?S 0:00 /bin/bash /etc/rc2.d/S20xprint posix_sh_forced start 795 ?S 0:00 \_ tee -a /dev/null 796 ?S 0:00 \_ logger -p lpr.notice -t Xprt_64 797 ?S 0:00 /usr/bin/Xprt -ac -pn -nolisten tcp -audit 4 -fp /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1,/usr/X11R6/lib/X1 838 ?S 0:00 /usr/sbin/atd 841 ?S 0:00 /usr/sbin/cron 845 ?S 0:00 /usr/sbin/apache 2579 ?S 0:00 \_ /usr/sbin/apache 2580 ?S 0:00 \_ /usr/sbin/apache 2581 ?S 0:00 \_ /usr/sbin/apache 2582 ?
Re: libcupsys dist-upgrade Sarge
Patrick Beard wrote: "Hugo Vanwoerkom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi list! I did a Sarge dist-upgrade (after backing up the partition with mondoarchive) and got 71 packages upgraded. It went with blazing speed (4.4Kb/sec) on my 56kb line. However... After the installation I get this error from Xprt: debian Xprt_64: lpc: /usr/lib/libgnutls.so.7: no version information available (required by /usr/lib/libcups.so.2) Yep. I've got that also. I haven't reported it yet because It doesn't seem to be affecting anything, and also due to recent events with the Debian site. I figure once things are sorted with security and maintainers start to post updates that it will be sorted. Problem is my cartridges ran out on my canon BJC-2110 printer at the same time, or because of it, I cannot tell. I reckon its pure coincidence. Like I said everything seems to be running ok with CUPS on my system dispite this warning. -- Patrick Thanks Patrick! I will go back to the upgraded system and await my new catridges! Hugo. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
boot-floppies.tar.gz?
Hi list! I would like to understand Woody's dbootstrap, which I understand is hidden in boot-floppies.tar.gz. With packages.debian.org being down, I am having a heck of a time finding it. Anybody? Thanks! Hugo. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Kernel upgrade time
Tom wrote: God, I hate dicking with the kernel. What would be nice is a really well-thought out Wizard that just tells me what to do. My process for answering the questions is pretty formulaic: favor modern features over archaic ones, favor simplicity, and don't use every feature under the sun. I am pulled in opposite directions when I have to get a new kernel: a. I just cannot see having every module under the sun (?). So I want to have just what is necessary. b. But I want it working well, and complete, for my particular installation. E.g. just a few months ago I found out about VIA82CXXX chipset support on 2.4.22: it solved a very bad hang situation on my HDD's I had for 2 years! So I second that thought: WHAT WOULD BE REALLY NICE IS... a kernel wizzard: telling me what I need and what I can do without. I got 2.4.22 working well now. Dread the thought of facing 2.4.23... Hugo. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian Package Finder, where?
Andreas Janssen wrote: Hello Chema (<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote: Now that packages.debian.org is down, I have found myself looking for "which deb provides such file/library" a pair of times. Having resolved the situation in unusual froms, I'm starting to miss packages.deb. Is there a mirror or equivalent search engine? Try apt-get install apt-file best regards Andreas Janssen Script started on Tue Dec 2 07:51:04 2003 /Tue Dec 02-07:51:04HDB5# apt-get update 0% [Working] 0% [Connecting to ftp.uni-erlangen.de] [Connecting to non-us.debian.org] [Connecting to security.debian.org] [Connecting to Hit http://marillat.free.fr testing/main Packages Reading Package Lists... Done /Tue Dec 02-07:51:30HDB5# apt-get install apt-file The following packages have unmet dependencies: apt-file: Depends: libapt-pkg-perl but it is not going to be installed E: Broken packages /Tue Dec 02-07:51:40HDB5# exit Script done on Tue Dec 2 07:51:43 2003 It appears perlapi-5.6.1 and libapt-pkg-libc6.2-3-2-3.2 are not in my sources. Without messing everything up, I guess I'll have to wait. :-( Hugo. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Luck with sarge-i386.netinst.iso?
Hi list! I tried again with the sarge netinst iso from http://freedesktop.org/~daniel/d-i/ But had no better luck than the last time. The menu hilite keeps pointing to network install (forget the exact wording) and does not progress, so you have to do the things yourself. Result is something that does not boot: Kernel panic: can't find root at 03:46. Has anybody got better luck with that great idea? Hugo. BTW: what does 03:46 refer to? Some sort of /dev entry? Did not find much info at linux.debian.maint.boot -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: apt-get broken after KDE dev download
Jeff Bauer wrote: I recently installed Knoppix 3.3 on my desktop (2.4.22-xfs). I had no problem using apt-get to grab the latest openoffice, python, xemacs, etc. But after I retrieved some KDE development tools, I'm no longer able to use apt-get. When executing apt-get -f install: Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done Correcting dependencies... Done The following extra packages will be installed: libxcursor-dev The following NEW packages will be installed: libxcursor-dev 0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 563 not upgraded. 10 not fully installed or removed. Need to get 0B/27.3kB of archives. After unpacking 135kB of additional disk space will be used. Do you want to continue? [Y/n] W: Couldn't stat source package list http://people.debian.org sid/i386/ Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/people.debian.org_%7ebranden_packages_sid_i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory) W: Couldn't stat source package list http://people.debian.org ./ Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/people.debian.org_%7eblade_testing_._Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory) (Reading database ... 119970 files and directories currently installed.) Unpacking libxcursor-dev (from .../libxcursor-dev_1.0.2-2_i386.deb) ... dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/libxcursor-dev_1.0.2-2_i386.deb ( --unpack): trying to overwrite `/usr/X11R6/include/X11/Xcursor/Xcursor.h', which is also in package xlibs-dev Errors were encountered while processing: /var/cache/apt/archives/libxcursor-dev_1.0.2-2_i386.deb W: Couldn't stat source package list http://people.debian.org sid/i386/ Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/people.debian.org_%7ebranden_packages_sid_i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory) W: Couldn't stat source package list http://people.debian.org ./ Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/people.debian.org_%7eblade_testing_._Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory) W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) --- So I attempted to run "apt-get update" to correct these problems, but to no avail: Err http://people.debian.org ./ Sources Could not connect to people.debian.org:80 connection timed out Err http://people.debian.org ./ Release Could not connect to people.debian.org:80 connection timed out Fetched 169kB in 16m2s (176B/s) Failed to fetch http://people.debian.org/~branden/packages/sid/i386/Packages.gz Could not connect to people.debian.org:80 connection timed out Failed to fetch http://people.debian.org/~branden/packages/sid/i386/Release Could not connect to people.debian.org:80 connection timed out Failed to fetch http://people.debian.org/~branden/packages/sid/source/Sources.gz . . . Reading Package Lists... Done E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead. --- My apt.conf: APT::Default-Release "testing"; How can I fix the damage and return to using apt-get for package installation? It's your sources.list: people.debian.org is down until futher notice. So change your sources.list or wait until people.debian.org is back up... Hugo. -Jeff -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: libcupsys dist-upgrade Sarge
Derrick 'dman' Hudson wrote: On Sun, Nov 30, 2003 at 10:09:07AM -0600, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: [zealous snip] | debian Xprt_64: lpc: /usr/lib/libgnutls.so.7: no version information | available (required by /usr/lib/libcups.so.2) Install libgnutls7, or install a different version if you have some version installed. (Hint: install the one that has /usr/lib/libgnutls.so.7 in it) I think the dependency in libcupsys2 doesn't require a new enough version of libgnutls7, which causes the problem if you don't run sid. If you run sid, you'd already have libgnutls7 version 1.8.12-2 (which I have, now). This is mostly from memory because I found the same problem a while back, and tracked it down to that solution. I don't remember whether or a bug report has been filed. Unfortunately, it will take at least two weeks for the problem to be resolved, because it takes that long for a new package to enter testing. -D Thanks Derrick! So I found libgnutls7_0.8.12-1_i386.deb at: http://home.o2w.net/~ivo/debian/unstable/i386/ dpkg -i said it needed also libopencdk8. Installed that and there is no warning about version info after stopping/starting cupsys. So I guessed it is fixed. I am awaiting INK so I can test the printer. Hugo. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: When will packages.debian.org be available again?
Greg Folkert wrote: On Tue, 2003-12-02 at 15:51, Neodym123 wrote: Hi! Does anyone know, when the packages list and search on www.debian.org will be available again? apt-cache search Does just fine! Having installed apt-file... apt-file search CD-Writing-HOWTO.gz (previous post) produces zip... so does apt-cache search... because wherever that package is is not in my sources... but searching in www.debian.org is (was...) very quick and complete. Hugo. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
