Re: problem installing Debian on dual boot with WinXP
You can avoid the 8GB trap if you use GRUB as you have done. But i think it's because Grub can be placed elsewhere than on the MBR. It's a chronic problem with LILO cos there's no other place for it. The normal work-around is to use an 8GB primary partion C with another larger one D made later when setting up the linux system. - Original Message - From: Mark To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2010 9:30 PM Subject: Re: problem installing Debian on dual boot with WinXP On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 1:19 PM, Freddie Exall wrote: I have to chip in that I've never had any such problem with gparted or grub with a winxp partition of >8GB (currently 30GB), with grub on MBR. Osprober's always done its job and gparted has served me well for as long as I've needed it. I've had this setup for a while (well, over a year anyway;) now so maybe something broke? Maybe I'm just lucky. [snip] Same here. I use either 20 or 30 gb partitions for XP and have no problems with grub or dual-booting. Pretty sure it's a partition table thing and someone already mentioned using cfdisk, which can be done from booting to the Ubuntu Live CD before installing. Mark
Re: problem installing Debian on dual boot with WinXP
I am sure you're right. But if you try to boot different partitions from the MBR with Lilo it often fails when the first partion is >8GB. I don't know Grub so well but it is possible to mount this elsewhere than on the MBR which avoids the problem and Grub2 is even more advantageous. - Original Message - From: "Freddie Exall" To: "Harry" Cc: ; Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2010 9:19 PM Subject: Re: problem installing Debian on dual boot with WinXP > On Wed, 8 Dec 2010, Harry wrote: > > > I'm guessing that Gparted has divided your disk into one smaller disk which > > is what the ubuntu partioner sees. > > First thing I would try is to use cfdisk (available from a slackware or > > Zenwalk distro to partion your disk correctly.Windows must be on primary and > > only up to 8gb if you want to install lilo or grub in the MBR. The rest can > > be split as you want. > > Remember that for Ubuntu to see the partitions they must be mounted. Debian > > 5 does not mount windows partitions on the disk automatically so you cant > > see them. > > I've tried Xp co habiting with Linux and it's not easy to make it work with > > only one 8GB partition. > > Hope it helps you. > > I have to chip in that I've never had any such problem with gparted or > grub with a winxp partition of >8GB (currently 30GB), with grub on MBR. > Osprober's always done its job and gparted has served me well for as long > as I've needed it. I've had this setup for a while (well, over a year > anyway;) now so maybe something broke? Maybe I'm just lucky. > > Greetings, > > Freddie > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Bernard" > > To: > > Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2010 11:46 AM > > Subject: problem installing Debian on dual boot with WinXP > > > > > >> Hi to Everyone, > >> > >> I wish to install Linux on a computer where MSWIN XP is already running. > >> I thought I would first resize (shrink) the windows partition so as to > >> create free space for Linux install. I did that, using GParted. Problem > >> is : at next step, when trying to install Ubuntu 10.10 with an iso CD, > >> the install system does not see any useful partition. It only sees > >> /dev/sda, while it should show /dev/sda1 and /dev/sda2. Using > >> "SystemRescueCD', I am able to mount both partitions and display their > >> size using 'df', but the Ubuntu install system does not see them. > >> Whether I format /dev/sda2 to ext2 or ntfs, or if I just leave the space > >> without formating, the Ubuntu install CD does not see any suitable space > >> for that purpose. > >> > >> I came to wonder if, by any chance, my failure was due to that I did not > >> create a partition table. The GParted iso CD offers this possibility, > >> but then it warns you that creating a partition table will erase all > >> data in all partitions.. > >> > >> So, maybe I should first create a backup of the MSWIN partition using > >> Partimage, then run Gparted again and create a partition table, then > >> install Ubuntu (if the iso CD finds what it needs once a new partition > >> table is created), then restore the MSWIN saved partition... (or, maybe, > >> the way around, that is, first restore MSWIN and install Ubuntu next) > >> > >> Prior to attempting such a risky process, I wish I had hints from those > >> who have already tested, since a number of questions still remain : > >> > >> Is it allright to backup and restore a MSWIN partition ? Will the > >> restored partition boot ? How about the MBR ? Shall I have to modify > >> GRUB so that both systems work ? > >> > >> Thanks in advance for your help > >> > >> > >> -- > >> To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org > >> with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > > listmas...@lists.debian.org > >> Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4cfe1eae.70...@teaser.fr > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org > > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org > > Archive: http://lists.debian.org/002901cb96ad$c0413a80$6601a...@cable.virginmedia.net > > > > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/002901cb9841$4fd2c3a0$6601a...@cable.virginmedia.net
Re: Can't get grub2 installed in debian-business cared(lenny)
Sounds like you forget the mount points, it's easy to do when you use Debian's CFDISK or Partioner. Mea culpa! - Original Message - From: "Thomas Yao" To: "debian-user" Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2010 3:17 AM Subject: Can't get grub2 installed in debian-business cared(lenny) > Hi all, I'm tring to install Debian Squeeze via "expert install" of > Debian Business Card(Lenny) > Everything went well until grub installation, I selected the grub2 to > install with Squeeze but no matter which device I tried to select to > install the boot loader, it told me "didn't select any device to > install bootloader" > And I can't install grub legancy afterwards, and I don't want to use > LILO, so anyone here met the same problem before? Thank you! > > -- > @ghosTM55 > Mechanism, not policy > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org > Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktinrfmx-2mffothtup2ibxsduyfad9lk1edma...@mail.gmail.com > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/006301cb9791$d6038c80$6601a...@cable.virginmedia.net
Re: Debian 5 installation
You think, Cameleon, that I am picky because I think an OS with an automatic configuration should be able to correctly configure a Nvidia TNT2 video card with a CMedia sound board. Slackware and Zenwalk do a fine job of it. Let me say that in one regard you are mistaken You must register first before using this userlist. Secondly I don't appreciate you editing my messages! I know it makes you look great but it aint honest. You have told me absolutely nothing except to seek help from outside and it's probably the best piece of advice I have received. Thank you. - Original Message - From: "Camaleón" To: "Debian [en]" Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 9:30 AM Subject: Re: Debian 5 installation > El 2010-12-06 a las 08:33 -, Harry escribió: > > (resending to the list) > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Camaleón" > > To: > > Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2010 12:59 PM > > Subject: Re: Debian 5 installation > > > > > > > On Sat, 04 Dec 2010 12:36:20 +, Harry Scott wrote: > > > > > > > I wanted help to install a nvidia legacy graphics driver for TNT 2 AGP > > > > so I thought to contact the user lists for guidance. This was not > > > > possible because: > > > > 1 When I tried to use evolution after asking permission (used windows > > > > mail to confirm) I couldn't move its window up to click on forward. The > > > > default vga video setting making the window too large. > > > > > > You can post over http. > > > > > > > 2 I thought, > > > > having read the installation instructions, Lenny would note that a > > > > nvidia driver was needed. Looking at the xorg.conf file it obviously > > > > couldn't. Configured device was all it said. > > > > > > You don't need the nvidia driver, "nv" is the default and should work > > > just fine. > > > > > > > 3 I read the Debian wiki > > > > after downloading appropriate driver from Nvidia. And downloaded > > > > nvidia-xconfig the missing piece of the puzzle. I think your help on the > > > > installation is ego-centric. Is it possible to get easier assistance? > > > > > > Nothing in linux concerning closed source drivers is "easy" by definition > > > >:-) > > > > > > I installed nvidia proprietary drivers by following Debian wiki steps: > > > > > > http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers > > > > > > Just ensure you install the nvidia driver suitable for your card. > > > > > > OTOH, I did not install "nvidia-xconfig" package, just edited my "/etc/ > > > X11/xorg.file" to tell X server to load the nvidia driver instead the > > > open one: > > > > > > *** > > > Section "Device" > > > Identifier "Configured Video Device" > > > Driver "nvidia" > > > EndSection > > > *** > > > Your reply makes no sense: > > I had to use Evolution to sign in to this group. Which I did via windows. > > Evolution is not able to be set up using vga. Of course Debian could use > > another emailer but that,s another thing. > > First, this mailing list does not require you to sign in order to read > and post messages. It is open, no subscription needed. > > Second, you can post a message over http. In the event you cannot setup > an e-mail client (like Evolution or Mutt -the latter does not even need > a GUI-) you can go to Gmane and use their http gateway: > > http://news.gmane.org/gmane.linux.debian.user > > Select the message you want to reply, click over the jump menu "followup", > and you're done. Not so difficult and very convenient when no MUA > available. > > > You seem to believe in miracles: the xorg.conf controls the setting of the > > graphics card and that comes as a contrived piece of software using the term > > configured device. To automatically generate an xorg.conf file I had to > > download nvidia-xconfig or face manually changing it. > > Again, I have not installed "nvidia-xconfig" app, it is an optional > step. And I did it manually. Google is plenty of sites describing the > lines you have to fill in xorg.conf for your VGA. Heck, even Debian wiki > tells you how to do it: > > http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers#Modifyanexistingxorg.conf > > > Since I don't know what drivers are installed that's my point about the > > "it's all automatic". > > You installed "nvidia" driver (or so you said). > > But if by "automatic" you mean that the system should have > auto-configured your "xorg.conf" to use the closed nvidia driver, that > will no happen. Is the user who has to manually set what driver wants to > use, at least for now. > > > From a developer point of view he knows what's there > > but this idiot doesn't I'm afraid. > > I'm not a developer. I'm a plain user, like you. And when I don't know > something, I search in Google or ask in mailing lists, like you. What I > fail to see is which of my words disgusted you. > > > I have partially cured the driver problem but I need to fix the range since > > it's too great for the monitor and seems to need changing each time I use > > it. > > By range you mean "screen resolution" or "dpi"? Better if you
