No Mouse in X

2007-02-27 Thread Dave Walker
esponse in X.

I am concerned that the text:

"If you have edited this file but would like it to be automatically updated
# again, run the following commands as root:
#
# cp /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 /etc/X11/XF86Config- 4.custom
# md5sum /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 >/var/lib/xfree86/XF86Config-4.md5sum
# dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86"

is important, but don't know if it is significant. I did as it instructed,
but ended up with the same file as before!

I have the file /var/log/XFree86.0.log available, but it is rather lengthy
to post here right now.

I am very new to Debian, so please don't post "try this." or "maybe
that.." because I won't be able to follow. I have been scouring forums
(there are so many!) and trying various "fixes" that were suggested, but
might have made things worse by partial (or no) understanding! I guess I
need quite explicit instructions on where to go (within Debian, preferably)
and what to do.

Anybody willing to take this on

Thanks, much
Dave Walker


No Mouse in X

2007-02-28 Thread Dave Walker

If it is a PS/2 mouse you should not have that /dev/input/mouse
section. For PS/2 you should be fine with just /dev/psaux.

Use dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 to reconfigure X again and just
choose PS/2 when selecting mouse.

let us know if the problem still exists.

Couple of other things:
1. Please reply to the list, that way others can also help you.
2. Please bottom post with irrelevant sections removed instead of top posting.
3. text emails are preferred over HTML.

raju

In response to your suggestion, I tried:

re-booted, logged in as root
cd to /etc/x11/

less XF86Config-4 to confirm that there were 2 serarate mouse sections
for "InputDevice" and that 2 input devices were present in
"ServerLayout"
one was "Configured Mouse" - the other "Generic Mouse"

used ls -l  and noted that file XF86Config-4 date was 2007-02-27 17:03
and additionally confirmed that system time was correct

ran dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 and did not change any options
(selected previously configured defaults as they appeared) mouse port
is /dev/psaux and mouse is PS/2

no options were changed because the ones present reflected the desired
configuration. There is no option during the process to remove a
mouse.

looked at the file time stamp after running dpkg as above
no change - appears that the file was not modified at all.

I can only guess that the file was not updated because no options were
changed? I am at a loss otherwise to explain why the time stamp was
not changed. The contents of the file was also unchanged.

startx still results in no mouse action.

I should add that I do have a well behaved mouse at the command line
and in Midnight Commander (mc), and can cut and paste between terminal
sessions using the mouse. From this I assume that gpm is running.
gpm -v returns 1.19.6

I am willing to consider any further suggestions.


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How to best use the list?

2007-03-01 Thread Dave Walker

I have done a bit of posting here during my attempt to get sarge
running smoothly, and my experience has shown me that I need to learn
a bit on how best to use this list.

I use WinXP and Gmail to communictate to the list (still struggling
with debian on another box). I have been advised to reply to the list,
to bottom post removing irrelevant sections, and to use plain text
rather than HMTL. Seems reasonable.

I think I am using plain text now. Gmail allows either rich formatting or text.

What I don't know is how to reply to the list so that I don't create a
separate thread with each e-mail. If I use the "reply" button in
Gmail, the reply goes to the sender, and not to the list. It would be
infinitely better for me to keep similar posts in a thread together,
and to reply to the list.

Anybody know how to do that in Gmail?

Thanks
Dave Walker


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Re: How to best use the list?

2007-03-01 Thread Dave Walker

I gave it a try...how's this?

On 3/1/07, Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On Thu, Mar 01, 2007 at 11:55:45AM -0600, Kent West wrote:
> On 3/1/07, Dave Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >What I don't know is how to reply to the list so that I don't create a
> >separate thread with each e-mail. If I use the "reply" button in
> >Gmail, the reply goes to the sender, and not to the list. It would be
> >infinitely better for me to keep similar posts in a thread together,
> >and to reply to the list.
> >
> >Anybody know how to do that in Gmail?
> >
>
> I just replied to this post in Gmail by hitting "Reply All", then
> manually
> taking out your email address and moving the debian-user address from the
> CC: field to the To: field.

and, FTR, its threaded properly here in mutt.

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Re: How to best use the list?

2007-03-01 Thread Dave Walker

On 3/1/07, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

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On 03/01/07 18:08, Dave Walker wrote:
> I gave it a try...how's this?

Well, you're top-posting, and that's "non-optimum", but it's
threading, and you only sent it to d-u.




I think I can, I think I can


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Configurable files and functions

2007-03-02 Thread Dave Walker

I am looking for an explanatory list of configuration files used in
sarge 3.1. The information I am looking for would give the location
(path), function (what the system uses it for), and whether the file
can be successfully changed by editing.

Does such a list exist?

I have in mind such files as .bashrc and .bash_profile and I am sure
there are many others that I will encounter.

Is it time for me to buy a reference book containing this info? If so,
which one? I do plan to upgrade to Etch as soon as it is the stable
release, so if a book is available for sarge, would it be useful for
etch?


Thanks all
Dave W.


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No Mouse in X

2007-03-05 Thread Dave Walker

Running Sarge 3.1 with kernel 2.4.27-2-386

I have been having problems configuring my mouse in X.

My initial install was from the Sarge 3.1 cd's prior to my having an
active internet connection. My install was via:

apt-get install x-window-system  (from cd's)

I am considering removing x and reinstalling from the net, to see if
my installation will become functional.

I think the command to remove x should be:

apt-get --purge remove x-window-system   , then to run

apt-get install x-window-system  (from the net)

Keeping in mind that I am a Debian newbie, does anybody see any
problems with this approach?

Thanks all
Dave W.


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Re: No Mouse in X

2007-03-06 Thread Dave Walker

On 3/5/07, Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

in response to my query below:


> I have been having problems configuring my mouse in X.


Andrew's suggestion:


are you using any utility that might interfere with a mouse (I'm
specifically thinking of gpm here).


In summary, my problem was that X would load but the mouse would be
frozen on the screen.

Bingo, Andrew - your suggestion that there might be interference by
another utility (maybe gpm) causing the problem proved to be the
case.

I issued the command:killall gpm

and then :  startx

and I now have a working gnome desktop.

Thanks to the group for all the useful suggestions. I now have a
functional wireless network (using a problematic WLAN D-Link 520+
card), can cruise around to view the system arrangement and view docs
and logs (using mc, in colour!) and now have a graphic desktop. This
was only possible due to the help offered by the debian community.

Dave W.


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Setting up X on Netvista

2007-03-08 Thread Dave Walker

I have been working through various set-up issues relating to XFree86.
I have made some progress with the video resolution that I thought I
should share:

Running latest Debian Sarge (3.1) with kernel 2.4.27-2-386 on an IBM
8306KCU Netvista (512 Mbyte Ram). The motherboard has an Intel 82845G
(Brookdale) on-board video and sound controller.

The i810 driver seems most applicable, and was used

I can now support modes 1024x768, 800x600 at colour depth 24.

The problem was that initially X would only run at a resolution of
640x480, reminiscent of Windows 3.1 with a 1 Mbyte video card, so i
checked the log file:

var/log/XFree86.0.log

There were no (EE) error messages but a careful scan of the log showed
that the "Bios now sees 832 KB VideoRam". This seemed too small for
resolutions higher than 640x480.

A additional message was that "Max space available for video modes: 832 KByte".

This seemed to confirm that insufficient video ram was being assigned.
I had set aside 64mbyte of video in the X set-up during configuration.

I finally checked my BIOS settings on the PC (F1 on boot for the
Netvista) and under "video set-up" set the following:

Shared system memory8192K  (this is the maximum allowed)
Active video  Integrated
Graphics Aperture64mb.

The BIOS changes were the final link in setting higher resolutions in
X, and I have close to 8mbyte now available for video modes.

An interesting side-note;  the PC dual boots WinXP Home and worked
perfectly well at high resolutions using the original BIOS
settings Don't know how or why.

Dave W.


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Groups, Permissions and /Share

2007-03-10 Thread Dave Walker

I have set up a nice big /Share directory on a separate HD, and would
like to create a document repository there accessible by all users. So
far only the root user can read, write and execute on the /Share
directory. What is the best way to accomplish this?

I don't mind reading tutorials and other docs, but at this point in my
Debian education, they need to be suitability simple. Any links to
such material would be much appreciated.

Any respondents should be aware that I am, obviously, very new to Debian.

PS - This is my first post from Debian Sarge running Gnome over my
wireless network. Amazing (to me) progress!

Thanks, all
Dave W.


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Re: No Mouse in X

2007-03-11 Thread Dave Walker

On 3/6/07, Kent West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Dave Walker wrote:
> In summary, my problem was that X would load but the mouse would be
> frozen on the screen.
>
> Bingo, Andrew - your suggestion that there might be interference by
> another utility (maybe gpm) causing the problem proved to be the
> case.
>
> I issued the command:killall gpm
>
> and then :  startx
>
> and I now have a working gnome desktop.
>


You can  keep gpm if you want by telling it to repeat data as ms3 and
then configure the mouse in X to be on /dev/gpmdata.

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Got the mouse to work as desired using a bit of advice from here and
there (mostly here!) - thanks everyone.

This what I did to make the mouse behave in X.

- located my  gpm.confin directory  /etc/

- edited to confirm/change the following lines:

  device=/dev/psaux/ (was already there)
  repeat_type=raw (changed to this)
  type=ps2  (ditto)



- then edited my X configuration file in the mouse device section:

 /etc/X11/XF86Config-4

  /dev/psaux===>  /dev/gpmdata



This had to be done logged on as root.

Note: I needed to re-boot to make the changes take effect. Just
logging out and in again didn't make the changes take effect.


Thanks again to the group
Dave W.


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Truetype Fonts Sarge 3.1

2007-03-27 Thread Dave Walker

I have downloaded (apt etc) and "installed" truetype fonts which
Sarge placed in file:

/usr/share/fonts/truetype/msttcorefonts/  (60 entries)and in

/usr/share/fonts/truetype/ttf-bitstream-vera/  (11 entries)

but I can't seem to make applications aware of them.

I have a Gnome desktop and run Abiword (2.2.7) and Gnumeric (1.4.3),
but none of these applications lists any true type fonts explicitly
among the font selections. Does that mean the truetype fonts need
further installation? How do I make that happen?

I installed dfontmgr hoping that it would be helpful, but I can't make
any sense of that application. It doesn't seem to have a manual. It
does, however, show the location of the truetype fonts though, so it
is somewhat useful.

Anybody been there and done that

Dave W.


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Truetype Fonts Sarge 3.1

2007-03-27 Thread Dave Walker

I have downloaded (apt etc) and "installed" truetype fonts which
Sarge placed in file:

/usr/share/fonts/truetype/msttcorefonts/  (60 entries)and in

/usr/share/fonts/truetype/ttf-bitstream-vera/  (11 entries)

but I can't seem to make applications aware of them.

I have a Gnome desktop and run Abiword (2.2.7) and Gnumeric (1.4.3),
but none of these applications lists any true type fonts explicitly
among the font selections. Does that mean the truetype fonts need
further installation? How do I make that happen?

I installed dfontmgr hoping that it would be helpful, but I can't make
any sense of that application. It doesn't seem to have a manual. It
does, however, show the location of the truetype fonts though, so it
is somewhat useful.

Anybody been there and done that

Dave W.


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Re: Truetype Fonts Sarge 3.1

2007-03-29 Thread Dave Walker

Success - in part..I think???

On 3/28/07, cga2000 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On Wed, Mar 28, 2007 at 11:50:07AM EST, Dave Workshop wrote:
> On Wed, 2007-28-03 at 06:45 +0100, Liam O'Toole wrote:

[..]

> > Run the following commands:
> >
> > fc-cache -fv
> > fc-list
> >
> > The output of the first command should include the
> > directory /usr/share/fonts/truetype/msttcorefonts/, and the second
> > should include the new fonts. At that point the fonts will be available
> > to GTK2 applications such as Abiword.

> > Liam


Dave replied:



> But, alas, I still don't see any true-type fonts available in Gnome or
> its applications. I looked in the desktop configuration, Abiword, and
> Gnumeric for the new fonts. I also tried to log out and in again to
> Debian both as root and as a normal user, but no success.
>
> Any additional suggestions??


CGA replied:


I had a heck of a time having the Terminus (fixed) font recognized by
mozilla -- another GTK app.  I had done as Liam rightly recommends
above and mozilla was ignoring my favorite fixed font.

Does gnome/gtk keep stuff in ram across login sessions to initialize
more quickly ..?

So, unless it's really inconvenient at this point I would just reboot
the boxx just in case .. see if it helps.

Otherwise, I don't use gnome or any of the apps you mention .. but are
they recent versions .. Just thinking that since it's a sarge system
you're talking about, some of the apps might be too ancient to be
fontconfig-aware..?

HTH

Thanks,
cga

--
Thanks, all for the suggestions.

I checked my apps running under Gnome, and at least some of the
truetype fonts have become available (those from:
/usr/share/fonts/truetype/msttcorefonts/ but not from
/usr/share/fonts/truetype/ttf-bitstream-vera), but I can't say what
exactly led them the become available.

I trieddpkg-reconfigure fontconfigas suggested by
Rage, and also
fc-cache -fv  as suggested by Liam

Some confusion arose (a continual state for me since I am new to Linux
- there are surprises almost everywhere - most of the type.now why
did THAT happen???), since the fonts are NOT shown explicitly as
truetype fonts in the font selection dialogue of the applications -
they are only identified by name, so you must know somehow by name
that they are in fact truetype.

One rather nice feature of the Gnome desktop (V 2.8 ) is that all
available fonts can be sampled in a very nice manner. Follow below:

Applications>Desktop Preferences>Font

Choose the Help button on the lower left corner to open the font Help
page. Scroll down to the bottom of Help (Section 11.6.2) for an
explanation how to use the file manager/browser to examine installed
fonts.

Open the Gnome file manager/browser and clear the location field (the
one that points to various file locations). Type in  fonts:///
  and there, in blazing glory, are all the available
fonts.

The specific location of the each font in the file system is not
shown, and I have not been able to determine why some have a "lock"
symbol on them, but there they are. Neat!

Font management in Debian Sarge is still a complete mystery to me,
with various command line commands doing whatever (and exactly what
does the gui tool Defontmgr do, anyway???), but maybe in Etch and
updated Gnome the situation has been improved. I'll wait until Etch
becomes the stable Debian release to find out.

Meanwhile, Gnome is proving to be a productive and pleasant GUI for my
purposes. My thanks to the development team.

Dave W.


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Re: how to set up a wireless network?

2007-08-03 Thread Dave Walker
On 8/3/07, pinniped <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> (quote)
> Bluetooth uses the same frequency range as 802.11b and g ...
> (end quote)
>
> That's right, and you're also right about the power meant to be limited to 
> less than a "normal" 802.11 transceiver.  I've mostly seen Bluetooth run as 
> an extra protocol on top of 802.11b/g and thus no extra gizmos and no reduced 
> power limit; the USB Bluetooth gizmos do have the power output limited and 
> these specialized gizmos were pretty much a waste of money. All in all I 
> never had a use for Bluetooth - I always saw it as a nice way to cripple your 
> otherwise OK 802.11 network.  There is absolutely nothing in the Bluetooth 
> protocol spec that hadn't already been accomplished by other tools, in many 
> cases over a decade before (so much for the "future" hype). Now "Zigbee" is 
> being touted as a "Bluetooth killer" - what is it? Why, lower-power 802.11.  
> Sound familiar? Wasn't that Bluetooth? Yet more hype.  However, Zigbee *may* 
> have a use in inherently very-low power gizmos with very short range - for 
> example tracking devices in laptops to determine where they are in a 
> building. I'm sure people can think of more sensible applications; I just 
> have none of my own.
>
> Going back to the original post, as for comments like "you absolutely must be 
> able to see the antenna", they are generally made by people who don't really 
> know what they're talking about.  There's a hell of a lot of nonsense on the 
> internet. (I'm sure I contribute to that on occasion). But the original quote 
> gives me the impression that the author is talking about getting a signal in 
> a "public park" in which case he's pretty much right - the frequency used by 
> 802.11 will be severely attenuated by a tree so in *many* cases if you can't 
> see the antenna, you probably won't get a signal. In reality you get 
> "multipaths" or the antenna may be behind some object which doesn't block 
> much of the signal and you manage to get a wireless signal after all - all in 
> all, just switch on that laptop and see what happens and in general ignore 
> the "thou shalt not" statements.
>
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For what it is worth, here is my experience with wireless through walls.

I have a wireless router (WRT 54G) that is my access point for a DSL
connection in the house, and a remote Linux box in another building
about 50 feet away from the WRT 54G.

The signal from the router in the house has to pass through a very
thick well insulated wood frame wall, and through another thick wood
frame wall on its way to the remote wireless card. There are some
windows in the walls, but there is no line of sight path, and no
significant metal in the walls aside from normal wiring services.

I found that the remote card did report many repeated packets due to
losses, so I looked into replacing the supplied "ducky" type antenna
with something better. I found that a directional antenna at the
remote end (on the wireless card) dramatically helped. I built my own
antenna (Google "tin can antenna"). I still get some lost packets on
receive, but not many.

Dave W.



Public PC

2007-08-05 Thread Dave Walker
I hope to place a PC running Etch in our small (tiny, actually)
airport building for use by pilots. The PC will be used to access
perhaps 10 web sites (plus or minus) over a DSL connection and to run
a few utilities to show GMT and a calculator and maybe a few
additional applications. The box will also serve as a real-time data
collection platform and web server for a local weather observing
system, so I want to prevent it from being re-booted.

I hope to make the PC reasonably idiot proof (the box will be kept
separate from the users) - the keyboard and display will be
accessible. The goal is to keep users from inadvertently trashing the
machine, but to provide usability.

Should I run a GUI (currently Gnome is installed)? How do I restrict
access to functions that users shouldn't access?

Is there a way to run a menu system, without using a Gnome...perhaps
another window manager?

Thanks, all
Dave W.


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Crashed X - Hard re-boot

2007-03-31 Thread Dave Walker

Running Sarge 3.1r5 (all up to date),  kernel  2.4.27-2-386 and Gnome desktop.

The following situation is repeatable, behaving in the same manner each time:



Running Gnome in terminal 1 as normally privileged user. Initialized
by  startx.

Switch to terminal 2 (CTRL ALT F2) and log in as same user as in
terminal 1. No commands issued in terminal 2.

Switch back terminal 1 (CTRL ALT F1), and X has crashed. Gnome is
gone, and the screen shows a few lines of "GetModeLine_scr:0
clock:0and sometimes GetGrabKeysState  _enabled.

X will not respond to CTRL ALT BACKSPACE (which normally closes the
server). The screen will accept only enter (scrolls down one line for
each press of the ENTER key).
There is a flashing cursor at the bottom left of the display.

The only workable recovery I have found is to switch to terminal 2, su
to root, and to
shutdown -h now.Normal shutdown occurs, power goes off, everything quiet.

A hard re-boot - power on - (ouch!) brings back the system with
everything working as normal.

How do I recover "gracefully" from an X crash like this? Anybody have
an idea what is going on? Where can I look for diagnostics?

Following is the last few lines from var/log/XFree86.0.log

GetModeLine - scrn: 0 clock: 0
GetModeLine - hdsp: 1024 hbeg: 0 hend: 0 httl: 0
 vdsp: 768 vbeg: 0 vend: 0 vttl: 0 flags: 0
(WW) I810(0): Setting the original video mode instead of restoring
the saved state
(II) I810(0): xf86UnbindGARTMemory: unbind key 7
(II) I810(0): xf86UnbindGARTMemory: unbind key 0
(II) I810(0): xf86UnbindGARTMemory: unbind key 2
(II) I810(0): xf86UnbindGARTMemory: unbind key 1
(II) I810(0): xf86UnbindGARTMemory: unbind key 3
(II) I810(0): xf86UnbindGARTMemory: unbind key 4
(II) I810(0): xf86UnbindGARTMemory: unbind key 5
(II) I810(0): xf86UnbindGARTMemory: unbind key 6
(II) I810(0): [drm] removed 1 reserved context for kernel
(II) I810(0): [drm] unmapping 8192 bytes of SAREA 0xe0261000 at 0x40018000

Thanks all
Dave W.


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Re: Crashed X - Hard re-boot

2007-03-31 Thread Dave Walker

On 3/31/07, Andrei Popescu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

"Dave Walker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Running Gnome in terminal 1 as normally privileged user. Initialized
> by  startx.
>
> Switch to terminal 2 (CTRL ALT F2) and log in as same user as in
> terminal 1. No commands issued in terminal 2.
>
> Switch back terminal 1 (CTRL ALT F1), and X has crashed. Gnome is

X (usually) runs on terminal 7. Try (Ctrl+)Alt+F7. And yes, it has
happened to me as well ;)

Regards,
Andrei
--

Thanks, Andrei what you explained was exactly what I found. X
was not running in terminal 1 at all as I expected, but was "hiding"
(from me at least) in terminal 7.

That raises the question, though, about what happined to terminal 1.
Why won't it respond, and why does it appear to be comatose???

Dave W.


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Re: Crashed X - Hard re-boot

2007-03-31 Thread Dave Walker

On 3/31/07, Florian Kulzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On Sat, Mar 31, 2007 at 17:29:13 -0400, Jose Luis Rivas Contreras wrote:
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> Dave Walker escribió:
> >
> > That raises the question, though, about what happined to terminal 1.
> > Why won't it respond, and why does it appear to be comatose???
> >
> > Dave W.
> >
> >
> If you don't want this to happen then you should use gdm or xdm or kdm,
> then you just start gdm and terminal 1 is free ;-)

I think another advantage of using [xkg]dm is avoiding the CTRL-ALT-F1,
CTRL-Z attack against the X screen lock (if you leave your computer
unattended and somebody else could walk along and use the keyboard).

--
Regards,
 Florian


Thanks once again, all

I think I can see why the program is called X - it begins in VC1 and
sneaks over VC7 - sort of like a plot in X-Files or X as in
X-perimental!

I'll give gdm a try - I didn't know of its existence.

Dave W.



Mozilla and Flash

2007-04-03 Thread Dave Walker

Running Mozilla/5.0 1.7.8-1sarge10(current stable release).

I am curious whether it is possible to get some version of Flash to work?
---
Here is what I did to this point:


apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree   (appeared to download and

install correctly)


From Mozilla > help > about Plug-ins- no Flash listed


Searched for the Flash download.
Found:   /var/cache/apt/archives/flashplugin-nonfree_7.0.25-5_i386.deb

Tried (as root) : dpkg -i flashplugin-nonfree_7.0.25-5_i386.deb

Churned away a bit and returned to prompt.

Still no Flash available in Mozilla.

Went to youtube to determine if the plugin was installed but I was
just too thick to see it.
When clicking on a video, message shown was "JavaScript turned off or
an old version of Flash Playeryadayada"

Anybody got a hint or even better, a solution (one that does not
involve -- wait for Etch, etc...I know someone wants to say that!) ???

Thanks, all
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Re: Mozilla and Flash

2007-04-04 Thread Dave Walker

On 4/3/07, Nyizsnyik Ferenc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On Tue, 3 Apr 2007 15:16:40 -0400
Michael Pobega <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

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> On Tue, Apr 03, 2007 at 12:47:22PM -0500, Dave Walker wrote:
> > Running Mozilla/5.0 1.7.8-1sarge10(current stable release).
> >
> > I am curious whether it is possible to get some version of Flash to
> > work?
>
> > Here is what I did to this point:
> >
> > apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
> >
> > Found:   /var/cache/apt/archives/flashplugin-nonfree_7.0.25-5_i386.deb
> >
> > Tried (as root) : dpkg -i flashplugin-nonfree_7.0.25-5_i386.deb
> >
> > Churned away a bit and returned to prompt.
> >
> > Still no Flash available in Mozilla.
> >
> > Went to youtube to determine if the plugin was installed but I was
> > just too thick to see it.
> > When clicking on a video, message shown was "JavaScript turned off
> > or an old version of Flash Playeryadayada"
> >
> > Anybody got a hint or even better, a solution (one that does not
> > involve -- wait for Etch, etc...I know someone wants to say
> > that!) ???
> >
> > Thanks, all
> > Dave W.
> >
>
> Well, using Firefox you can always install it the regular way (The
> browser prompt, when it says "Click here to install addition packages
> needed to display the page correctly", or whatever).
>
> Honestly that is the easiest way to do it, since I know a lot of
> people have had troubles doing it the "Debian" way.
>
> Or you could always get the tar.gz package from Adobe and run that,
> the installer seems to work 100% of the time without any problems.

Or extract libflashplayer.so from the tar.gz and copy it to Mozilla's
plugins directory.

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I looked for occurrences of *flash* on my system, and this is what I
found (sorry for the quantity)

/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/schemas/desktop/gnome/thumbnailers/[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]
/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/schemas/desktop/gnome/thumbnailers/[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]/%gconf.xml
/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/desktop/gnome/thumbnailers/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/desktop/gnome/thumbnailers/[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]/%gconf.xml
/etc/update-flashplugin.conf.rb
/var/lib/dpkg/info/flashplugin-nonfree.config
/var/lib/dpkg/info/flashplugin-nonfree.list
/var/lib/dpkg/info/flashplugin-nonfree.templates
/var/lib/dpkg/info/flashplugin-nonfree.postinst
/var/lib/dpkg/info/flashplugin-nonfree.prerm
/var/lib/dpkg/info/flashplugin-nonfree.postrm
/var/lib/dpkg/info/flashplugin-nonfree.conffiles
/var/lib/dpkg/info/flashplugin-nonfree.md5sums
/var/cache/apt/archives/flashplugin-nonfree_7.0.25-5_i386.deb
/usr/share/doc/flashplugin-nonfree
/usr/share/doc/flashplugin-nonfree/README.Debian
/usr/share/doc/flashplugin-nonfree/EULA.html
/usr/share/doc/flashplugin-nonfree/changelog.Debian.gz
/usr/share/doc/flashplugin-nonfree/copyright
/usr/share/man/man8/update-flashplugin.8.gz
/usr/share/gnome/help/battstat/zh_CN/figures/flash_small.png
/usr/share/gnome/help/battstat/C/figures/flash_small.png
/usr/share/gnome/help/battstat/de/figures/flash_small.png
/usr/share/gnome/help/battstat/es/figures/flash_small.png
/usr/share/gnome/help/battstat/fr/figures/flash_small.png
/usr/share/gnome/help/battstat/it/figures/flash_small.png
/usr/share/gnome/help/battstat/ja/figures/flash_small.png
/usr/share/gnome/help/battstat/ko/figures/flash_small.png
/usr/share/gnome/help/battstat/sv/figures/flash_small.png
/usr/share/gnome/help/battstat/zh_HK/figures/flash_small.png
/usr/share/gnome/help/battstat/zh_TW/figures/flash_small.png
/usr/share/mime/application/x-shockwave-flash.xml
/usr/share/icons/gnome/48x48/mimetypes/gnome-mime-application-x-shockwave-flash.png
/usr/share/icons/Industrial/48x48/mimetypes/gnome-mime-application-x-shockwave-flash.png
/usr/share/dia/shapes/Network/flash.shape
/usr/share/dia/shapes/Network/flash.png
/usr/share/hal/fdi/20freedesktop/jetflash-mp3-player.fdi
/usr/include/linux/mtd/flashchip.h
/usr/include/linux/mtd/iflash.h
/usr/include/efi/protocol/piflash64.h
/usr/sbin/update-flashplugin
/usr/src/kernel-headers-2.4.27-2/include/linux/mtd/flashchip.h
/usr/src/kernel-headers-2.4.27-2/include/linux/mtd/iflash.h
/usr/src/kernel-headers-2.4.27-2-386/include/config/mtd/scx200/docflash.h
/usr/src/kernel-headers-2.4.27-2-386/include/config/mtd/scx200/docflash
/usr/src/kernel-headers-2.4.27-2

Re: Mozilla and Flash

2007-04-04 Thread Dave Walker

Yes it is Sarge, but do you mean I won't be able to use Flash unless I
upgrade to Etch? Maybe the world has moved on from Sarge and Flash 7??

On 4/4/07, Greg Folkert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On Wed, 2007-04-04 at 10:23 -0500, Dave Walker wrote:
> 7.0.25

Your version number, herein lies your problem. I am assuming you are
using Sarge, correct?

If so, there are some methods to fix this, but your best bet is to
upgrade to Etch in a few days, after it is released.
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Re: Mozilla and Flash

2007-04-04 Thread Dave Walker

On 4/4/07, Raquel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On Tue, 03 Apr 2007 15:28:32 -0400
Kamaraju S Kusumanchi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> >
> > Anybody got a hint or even better, a solution (one that does not
> > involve -- wait for Etch, etc...I know someone wants to say
> > that!) ???
>
> I do not know the solution for Sarge. I am using Etch and can
> confirm that flash (on youtube, video.google.com) is working
> without any problems.
>
>

Include the following in sources.list

deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org sarge main

Flashplayer is then available.

--
Raquel


O...I wasn't aware of that source for additional files!
Wackojacko mentioned it too, in a previous post to me in the same
thread, but I didn't catch on. Do I then do an

apt-get search flash

..and download the plug-in or is that Flash a stand-alone app?

Dave W.


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Re: Mozilla and Flash

2007-04-04 Thread Dave Walker

On 4/4/07, Raquel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On Wed, 4 Apr 2007 12:47:51 -0500
"Dave Walker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On 4/4/07, Raquel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Tue, 03 Apr 2007 15:28:32 -0400
> > Kamaraju S Kusumanchi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > >
> > > > Anybody got a hint or even better, a solution (one that does
> > > > not involve -- wait for Etch, etc...I know someone wants to
> > > > say that!) ???
> > >
> > > I do not know the solution for Sarge. I am using Etch and can
> > > confirm that flash (on youtube, video.google.com) is working
> > > without any problems.
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Include the following in sources.list
> >
> > deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org sarge main
> >
> > Flashplayer is then available.
> >
> > --
> > Raquel
> >
> O...I wasn't aware of that source for additional files!
> Wackojacko mentioned it too, in a previous post to me in the same
> thread, but I didn't catch on. Do I then do an
>
> apt-get search flash
>
> ..and download the plug-in or is that Flash a stand-alone app?
>
> Dave W.
>

Include the required line in your sources.list.

apt-get update
apt-get search flash
apt-get install 

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That was what it took, thanks Raquel and everyone else

Changed.../etc/apt/sources.list.to include a mirror for stable main.
Updated.
Searched.
Found the packageflashplayer-mozilla.. and installed it.
The installation removed flashplugin-nonfree that was not doing anything.

Tested at You tube, works perfectly. My faith in 'ol Sarge is restored.

Dave W.


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Document reader?

2007-04-10 Thread Dave Walker

In anticipation of distribution upgrading from Sarge (kernel 2.4) to
Etch, I wanted to review the information on kernel 2.6.8 for Sarge. I
downloaded a huge info file (kernel-doc-2.6.8) successfully. It
unpacked to: /usr/share/doc/  and joined many other doc files
there.

ButI found, to my chagrin, in my ignorance that I couldn't read
the files in any organized way. Is there a file reader for the doc
files? I run Gnome 2.8.3, if that is relevant.

Thanks, all
Dave W.


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Re: Document reader?

2007-04-11 Thread Dave Walker

On 4/10/07, Jeff D <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On Tue, 10 Apr 2007, Dave Walker wrote:

> In anticipation of distribution upgrading from Sarge (kernel 2.4) to
> Etch, I wanted to review the information on kernel 2.6.8 for Sarge. I
> downloaded a huge info file (kernel-doc-2.6.8) successfully. It
> unpacked to: /usr/share/doc/  and joined many other doc files
> there.
>
> ButI found, to my chagrin, in my ignorance that I couldn't read
> the files in any organized way. Is there a file reader for the doc
> files? I run Gnome 2.8.3, if that is relevant.
>
> Thanks, all
> Dave W.
>

check out the dwww package, it lets read the doc/man pages with a web
browser ..






Thanks for the recommendation Jeff D, about dwww. I did 
   apt-cache search dwww  and found the package, that
I downloaded with
   apt-get install dwww

The download lead to additional downloads - producing a virtual
cascade of associated files (occupying 10's of megabytes). That left
me with 3 questions.

1.) How to get dwww to run?? In case anybody else wants to try dwww,
follow along. I searched among the doc files   usr/share/doc/   with a
file browser, but saw nothing helpful. In desperation, in a command
window, I looked at the output of
   man dwww.
The short manual showed the option to run dwww in a command window,
just like any other command, or to run it as a browser URL
(http://localhost/dwww/index.html).
The answer to question 1 reinforces the idea that   man (package
name) is your friend!

2.) During the copious download binge launched by installing dwww, I
had to wonder which of the associated packages were really important.
I installed all of the "Suggested" packages, and all of the
"Recommended" for dwww. However, the associated packages also had
"Suggested" and "Recommended" downloads. How does anyone know when to
stop in this process? I finally decided arbitrarily to quit installing
more packages.

3.) The installation of apache appears to be involved in the process.
I have no idea to how to properly configure apache for any purpose,
and simply selected the defaults when presented. Have I compromised
the security of my system?  Can I test the system security in a simple
way?

Thanks, all
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Re: Document reader?

2007-04-11 Thread Dave Walker

On 4/11/07, Jeff D <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On Wed, 11 Apr 2007, Dave Walker wrote:

> On 4/10/07, Jeff D <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On Tue, 10 Apr 2007, Dave Walker wrote:
>>
>> > In anticipation of distribution upgrading from Sarge (kernel 2.4) to
>> > Etch, I wanted to review the information on kernel 2.6.8 for Sarge. I
>> > downloaded a huge info file (kernel-doc-2.6.8) successfully. It
>> > unpacked to: /usr/share/doc/  and joined many other doc files
>> > there.
>> >
>

Hi Dave,

as for #2, that's all subjective.  Most time you wont really need any of
the suggested or recommended packages, they might make your life easier
though.

In /etc/apache2/ports , you should see a line that says Listen 80 , change
that to Listen 127.0.0.1:80 , then /etc/init.d/apache2 restart, and then
your apache install will only be listening on the loop-back device. Then
you should be able to point your browser to http://127.0.0.1/dwww .


also there are quite a few sites otu there that you can go to that will
do port scan on your host and show you what is open to the world.
http://www.hackerwatch.org/probe/
http://www.grc.com/ (down to shields up)

hth,
Jeff


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Jeff, thanks for the additional comments. I don't seem to have a file
/etc/apache2/ports. As root, apache -v reports v1.3.33; I guess that
explains it. The links that you sent were very informative, and showed
that all the ports were secure. This system is behind a router, maybe
that helps.

Doug, in retrospect your suggestion has a lot going for it. I use mc
extensively and can't imagine life without it (reminds me of the du
utility in CPM3!). What was confusing initially was that installing
the doc file (Kernel-doc-2.6.8) threw files in several directories
(and many of them as well!). It didn't give a single clue where it was
placing the files during the install - shouldn't a polite installer to
do that? In searching for the files using the Gnome file finder, I
found a treasure trove of additional doc files that I wasn't aware of.
That triggered the query about an organized doc system. The utility
dwww serves nicely to serve up these doc files, although the overhead
is, admittedly high.

Thanks again
Dave W.


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