dpkg error -subprocess paste killed by signal
howdy, I'm running Libranet 2.7, which is woody 3.0 & lots of nice extras. My troubles started with upgrading KDE 3.05 to 3.1. I didn't want to, I wanted Quanta, and it needed KDE 3.1. So I says well, OK. I started with apt-get upgrade kdelibs4 which went fine. Then: apt-get upgrade kdelibs-bin That's when the trouble started. libarts1 and libartsc0 won't install. I tried apt-get -f install, it failed too. As did dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/libarts1_1.1.0-0woody4_i386.deb So I says to myself, I says self, uninstall everything and start over. Well, if I try apt-get remove this same darned unmet dependency pops up: Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies: arts: Depends: libartsc0 (>= 1.1.0-0woody4) but it is not going to be installed Depends: libarts1 (>= 1.1.0-0woody4) but 1.0.5a-0woody1 is to be installed I won't bore you with ranting about how installing a single KDE app leads to this huge ugly winderz-type interdepency mess. I didn't want to upgrade, I just wanted Quanta. My source is deb http://download.kde.org/stable/3.1/Debian stable main So- any bright ideas? Thanks! Carla # apt-get -f install Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done Correcting dependencies... Done The following extra packages will be installed: libarts1 libartsc0 The following NEW packages will be installed: libartsc0 1 packages upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 172 not upgraded. 8 packages not fully installed or removed. Need to get 889kB of archives. After unpacking 946kB will be used. Do you want to continue? [Y/n] y Get:1 http://download.kde.org stable/main libarts1 1.1.0-0woody4 [846kB] Get:2 http://download.kde.org stable/main libartsc0 1.1.0-0woody4 [43.2kB] Fetched 889kB in 21s (40.6kB/s) (Reading database ... 147934 files and directories currently installed.) Preparing to replace libarts1 1.0.5a-0woody1 (using .../libarts1_1.1.0-0woody4_i386.deb) ... Unpacking replacement libarts1 ... dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/libarts1_1.1.0-0woody4_i386.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite `/usr/bin/artscat', which is also in package libarts1-bin dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe) Unpacking libartsc0 (from .../libartsc0_1.1.0-0woody4_i386.deb) ... dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/libartsc0_1.1.0-0woody4_i386.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite `/usr/bin/artsdsp', which is also in package libarts1-bin dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe) Errors were encountered while processing: /var/cache/apt/archives/libarts1_1.1.0-0woody4_i386.deb /var/cache/apt/archives/libartsc0_1.1.0-0woody4_i386.deb E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) -- ~ Carla Schroder www.tuxcomputing.com this message brought to you by Libranet 2.7 and Kmail ~ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: dpkg error -subprocess paste killed by signal
On Friday 21 February 2003 08:32 pm, John Schmidt wrote: > On Friday 21 February 2003 9:16 pm, Carla Schroder wrote: > > Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies: > > arts: Depends: libartsc0 (>= 1.1.0-0woody4) but it is not going to > > be installed > > Depends: libarts1 (>= 1.1.0-0woody4) but 1.0.5a-0woody1 is to > > be installed > > > > Yes, you should use dpkg --purge --force package_to_remove. You can't > reliably do an update for kde from the official kde packages to the > unofficial kde packages found on at kde.org. The packager Ralph Nolden > recommends that you remove stuff before installing the new stuff. > Familiarize yourself with dpkg, especially the force, since it will > remove stuff even if there are dependencies. You may have to do it > package by package in the worst case, but hopefully, you can remove the > few offending ones, and the use apt-get --purge remove (the other > packages) which should help automate things. > > John Thanks John, that did the trick. Hunting down every last KDE app was not one of my funner evenings! But it did the trick. I also deleted /etc/kde2 and /etc/kde3, and /user/lib/kde3. Then used only deb http://download.kde.org/stable/3.1/Debian woody main for my KDE sources. Installed the pieces I wanted, and everything works. I even have Quanta. Doubtless experienced Debian users know this, apt-get install --dry-run is a nice headache-preventer. -- ~ Carla Schroder www.tuxcomputing.com this message brought to you by Libranet 2.7 and Kmail ~ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
official KDE debs
This list moves so fast I don't remember if this has been posted, here it is anyway: KDE3 and Debian : Frequently Asked Questions http://davidpashley.com/debian-kde/faq.html " Any packages which you download that are not from the official distribution may result in you being unable to upgrade to KDE 3 when it does enter Debian. If this does occur then you will have to remove KDE completely and then reinstall it." -- ~~~~~ Carla Schroder www.tuxcomputing.com this message brought to you by Libranet 2.7 and Kmail ~ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian Download Problems
On Wednesday 26 February 2003 07:24 am, hlingis wrote: > ...I'm sure you've heard this before, I can't download an error free ISO of > either version of potato or woody. Why not order disks from Cheapbytes? -- ~~~~~ Carla Schroder www.tuxcomputing.com this message brought to you by Libranet 2.7 and Kmail ~ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Installing debian
On Wednesday 26 February 2003 09:11 am, Carlos Taylor wrote: > I'm new and am trying to install debian on a Compaq Deskpro EN PC running a > P-III(733MHz) processor. > > I downloaded 3 iso images: > debian-30r1-i386-binary-1 > debian-30r1-i386-binary-2 > debian-30r1-i386-binary-3 > > I then burned all 3 to separate CD's. > > I then set my BIOS to boot from the CD. > Nothing happens. It does not boot from the CD. > > Can someone give me instructions on how to install? > Have you verified that the disks are readable? Did you know that you can't just copy the ISOs to disks? When you read the disks in any computer, you should see a lot of files and directories, not a single .iso. Don't forget to use md5sum to verify the downloads are good. -- ~ Carla Schroder www.tuxcomputing.com this message brought to you by Libranet 2.7 and Kmail ~ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Newbie administrator
On Wednesday 26 February 2003 11:21 am, Phil wrote: > I am running the only Debian server in the NYC Dept. of Education. > > Is there a good book for beginner adimin's like me? Ay yi yi! Lotsa luck! Sign up for 'Safari Books' on O'Reilly, http://safari.oreilly.com/, for cheep monies you'll get online access to zillions of books. Debian Quick Reference, http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/quick-reference/quick-reference Essential System Administration, by Aeleen Frisch Linux System Administration: A User's Guide Marcel Gagne Running Linux, 3rd Edition By Matt Welsh, Matthias Kalle Dalheimer, Lar Kaufman Using Samba, 2nd Edition By Jay Ts, Robert Eckstein, David Collier-Brown -- ~ Carla Schroder www.tuxcomputing.com this message brought to you by Libranet 2.7 and Kmail ~ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Network booting with Grub
On Saturday 01 March 2003 06:04 pm, nate wrote: > Hello! > > I was curious if anyone had any experiences they could share with > me network booting a x86 machine with debian 3.0 configured to > be 'diskless'. I'm lookin to set up a machine or 2 for this. I > have TFTP and DHCP already, about to compile grub with network > support. > > sofar I'm lookin at this document: > http://www.kegel.com/linux/pxe.html > > the NIC in the machine I plan to test is a eepro100 w/PXE bootrom, > also I have some systems with 3c59x which are netboot capable as > well. > > It's just that my desktop systems get so little local disk activity > I'm thinkin about removing the disks and running everything over > NFS(both my local NFS servers are on raid). > > thanks > > nate Have you looked at the Linux Terminal server Project? http://www.ltsp.org/ It's an active, fast-moving project. They provide debs, lots of documentation, mail lists, and IRC. Running terminals off a good Linux server is a great way to go, maintaining a network is lots simpler. And quieter, if you have a place to stuff the noisy server. ;-) -- ~ Carla Schroder www.tuxcomputing.com this message brought to you by Libranet 2.7 and Kmail ~ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Switch from Gnome to KDE...
On Sunday 02 March 2003 03:52 pm, Hall Stevenson wrote: > So, I'm pretty certain there are "K" equivalents to all "G" > applications. The only app I'm unsure about is Mozilla (and Phoenix). I > thought they depended on GTK libs, but 'apt-cache show mozilla-browser' > doesn't seem to indicate that. That's good ! Why not keep both installed? Then you can use both sets of apps. Gnome apps run in KDE, KDE apps run in Gnome. And in any other window manager, for that matter. > It looks like unstable only has KDE 2.2 available. Isn't KDE up in the 3 > range ?? I see an article at debianplanet.com the KDE3 started into SID > on Feb 5... Start here, KDE3 and Debian : Frequently Asked Questions http://davidpashley.com/debian-kde/faq.html There are at least three different sources for KDE debs. Use only the ones from kde.org. KDE3 won't make it into stable for a while yet, though it will eventually. Stick with what the FAQ says and you'll be fine. -- ~ Carla Schroder www.tuxcomputing.com this message brought to you by Libranet 2.7 and Kmail ~ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Switch from Gnome to KDE...
On Monday 03 March 2003 04:26 pm, Hall Stevenson wrote: > I guess I didn't read close enough... I went and read up at the > davidpashley site and in it, he has an apt entry for getting KDE > packages. I used that and am running KDE right now. > > Any advantage to using the DEBs from KDE.org instead ?? > > Hall In my experience, they are the most stable and trouble-free, and they are completely up-to-date. I'm running KDE 3.1 right now from kde.org, it's very nice. I don't use the KDE desktop itself, as I like IceWM, but I use a lot of KDE apps. 3.1 is a pretty big leap from 3.0, I'm very pleased with it. The main thing is to use only one source, mixing them up will cause big troubles! I mixed sources, and ended up manually removing all KDE pieces, and starting over. That was, er, less than fun. ;-) -- ~ Carla Schroder www.tuxcomputing.com this message brought to you by Libranet 2.7 and Kmail ~ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: The Very Verbose Guide to Updating and Compiling Your Debian Kernel
On Tuesday 04 March 2003 3:16 am, Haralambos Geortgilakis wrote: > Hi Yall, > > spotted the above titled article & it seemed to me some of us & me might > find it of use, so here is the url > > http://www.osnews.com/printer.php?news_id=2949 That's a great link, thanks. Compiling kernels isn't so scary with instructions like this! -- ~ Carla Schroder www.tuxcomputing.com this message brought to you by Libranet 2.7 and Kmail ~ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Windows Server 2003
On Tuesday 04 March 2003 9:49 am, Jeetu Golani wrote: > Hi ppl, > > I've been reading up on Windows Server 2003 and though I realize that most > of what i'm reading is just wat MS wants me to read,anyways some of the > features seem to be of good potential,Linux has been holding the upper hand > in the Server segment so far, was wondering bout steps being taken to > counter Windows and offer similar (or better) features in forthcoming Linux > releases. If substantial and major features in Win 2003 are already there > in Linux today I'd appreciate if you could point me to that too. > > I'd actually love to hear from ppl who've used Win 2000 Server (or better > Win Server 2003 beta) and tell me if it actually measures up. A few ppl I > know using Win 2000 Server on small networks are very very happy with > improvements. > I've been administering winderz machines since 1994, came to Linux sometime later. The only circumstances, IMO, that warrant running a windows server of any kind are: 1. on a completely isolated LAN, not connected to any other network 2. to get certain functions that cannot be had any other way, such as certain application servers. Even then I would search hard for a *nix solution. 3. with IT staff that are extremely competent and well-trained and very experienced. No half-baked do-it-yourselfers need apply. Windows is a mess. It is overly complicated and overly interdependent. MS co-opts and breaks standards. It is impossible to secure- if your firewall is penetrated, good-bye the store. (don't forget to restrict outgoing traffic, so you don't spew Slammer or Klez or some such all over the world) Applications have free access to system files. Big deal if users have restricted privileges, when applications can muck up system files. The other excellent option for a network OS is Novell. IMO, Netware is the best network OS there is, even better than *nix. It has first-rate directory and management tools, and integrates mixed platforms better than anyone. Throw in Macs, Linux, Windows, OS/2, whatever you like, Netware makes them all play nice together. So, if you have the budget and want the very best, go with Novell. A close second-best is Linux, or BSD, or any Unix. -- ~ Carla Schroder www.tuxcomputing.com this message brought to you by Libranet 2.7 and Kmail ~ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: kernel: lp0 on fire ????
On Thursday 06 March 2003 11:06 am, Shri Shrikumar wrote: > Hi All, > > I got this very interesting logcheck email with this line > > Mar 6 14:24:35 server kernel: lp0 on fire > > What does this mean - I can confirm that there is no actual fire as of > yet but it does have me worried - any thoughts ? > > > Shri A Google search for lp0 on fire turns up several hits: http://216.239.37.100/search?q=cache:bcjVD8F2zJUC:www.kalamazoolinux.org/mailarchive/0006/msg00188.html+lp0+on+fire&hl=en&ie=UTF-8 Apparently this is an old and honorable Unix humor tradition. ">> > `lp0 on fire' is a age-old UNIX joke. It was in the earliest kernels >> > of UNIX. Linux is just trying to conform ;) >> > >> > Seriously, it's for unknown errors - off line is reported when the >> > printer is off-line, out of paper is reported when the printer is out >> > of paper, on fire is reported when the kernel doesn't know." -- ~ Carla Schroder www.tuxcomputing.com this message brought to you by Libranet 2.7 and Kmail ~ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: gimp graphics tablet recomendation ?
On Thursday 06 March 2003 10:54 pm, Andrew Hurt wrote: > Dave Selby wrote: > > I am increasingly using gimp and am thinking of getting a graphics > > tablet. Does anyone have any recomendations that are compatible with > > woody ? > > > > If not is there a hardware compatibility site for debian ? > > I compiled Wacom and USB into the kernel, and my Wacom 6x8 USB does the > job. Didn't have to do anything with XF86Config-4--it just works. > > I'm still trying to diagnose the lack of pressure/eraser support, but that > will come ;-) I have a Wacom Graphire USB that also 'just works' with the X drivers. It replaces my ps/2 mouse. the Graphire mouse works fine, and it saves space. To get pressure/eraser functions, you need to install the Wacom drivers, the X drivers only give basic functionality. See http://people.mandrakesoft.com/~flepied/projects/wacom/, and be sure to cruise the list archives. The list is low-volume, but very helpful. -- ~ Carla Schroder www.tuxcomputing.com this message brought to you by Libranet 2.7 and Kmail ~ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Small/Medium scale SAMBA
On Friday 07 March 2003 7:55 am, Matthew Daubenspeck wrote: > I am currently researching the possibility of slowly moving an existing > Novell network [with all Windows clients except mine :)] to something > Linux based. I have about 900 clients that would be slowly migrated if > this whole thing is feasible. The version of NetWare we are using now is > no longer "officially supported" from Novell, so it is becoming more and > more difficult to successfully make newer hardware work with the old > software. > > Can Samba handle this kind of client load? It would be mainly for basic > file/sharing and print spooling... Samba will handle it with ease. Start with the excellent book 'Using Samba'. IBM DeveloperWorks has a great tutorial on using Samba as a domain controller. If it were me I would try real hard to get the budget to upgrade Netware. Netware 6 is the best network OS of all. But if that's not in the cards, Samba will do a good job for you. -- ~ Carla Schroder www.tuxcomputing.com this message brought to you by Libranet 2.7 and Kmail ~ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: kernel: lp0 on fire ????
On Thursday 06 March 2003 11:02 pm, Rob Weir wrote: > On Fri, Mar 07, 2003 at 05:20:09PM +1100, John Griffiths wrote: > > >Yes, you are using a retarded email client and inserting this huge > > >disclaimer bullshit which is all one one line. > > > > > >You asked for that one :-) > > > > Wow, > > > > you're in a charming mood today dude. > > Well, it's not particularly nice, but those stupid email disclaimer > things are just fucking annoying. It doesn't even have a proper '^-- $' > sig delimiter on it, so I can't have mutt simply hide it for me. I'm > sure I could come up with a procmail hack that would strip it, but > really, should I have to? I agree they are annoying and useless. Anyone who sends sensitive information in email deserves the consquences if it gets intercepted. Encryption? Whut's that? However yelling at the sender does no good, they have no control over it. The disclaimers are appended at the server. -- ~ Carla Schroder www.tuxcomputing.com this message brought to you by Libranet 2.7 and Kmail ~ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: snort log has a bunch of different attacks - should I be worried
On Saturday 08 March 2003 8:40 am, Shri Shrikumar wrote: > Re: snort log has a bunch of different attacks - should I be worried > From: Shri Shrikumar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > On Sat, 2003-03-08 at 15:54, nate wrote: > > Shri Shrikumar said: > > > Hello, > > > > > > I have been running a server for a few months now for a hobby site and > > > had installed snort. I have reports of a whole range of attacks on the > > > server IP including > > > > in default configuration snort will detect about 97-99% false positives > > as far as "intrusion" goes. at my last employer, without configuration > > on 2 T1s with ~5% utilization on each I got upwards of 40,000 events per > > hour. It took about 75 hours of log analysis and tuning to get that > > number down to a more managable level of ~20 events/hour. > > > > so in most cases your fine. all of the attacks you list look pretty > > harmless to me. > > Thanks nate. Is there a site which lists these things in more detail so > I know if the ones that show up are safe or not. It's best to understand how networks function, and TCP/IP, and all those good things. The Snort homepage has a list of Snort's rules, and what they mean. The Snort user groups are active and helpful. Bruce Schneier and Lance Spitzner have both written books, and reams of online stuff, on computer security, a quick Googling will return tons of useful information. Also the O'Reilly book, TCP/IP Network Administration, I found extremely useful. Having at least a medium-deep knowledge of TCP/IP makes everything else more comprehensible. -- ~ Carla Schroder www.tuxcomputing.com this message brought to you by Libranet 2.7 and Kmail ~ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
recover lost root password
Well here's a good one, is there a way to get into a system when you've lost the root password? Without a CD or boot floppy? Used to be you could pass in "init=/bin/sh" from LILO, and work some /etc/shadow magic. (like copy the hashed root password from a different system) But GRUB is different... thanks! -- ~~~~~ Carla Schroder www.tuxcomputing.com this message brought to you by Libranet 2.7 and Kmail ~ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: recover lost root password
On Saturday 08 March 2003 4:41 pm, Carla Schroder wrote: > Well here's a good one, is there a way to get into a system when you've > lost the root password? Without a CD or boot floppy? Used to be you could > pass in "init=/bin/sh" from LILO, and work some /etc/shadow magic. (like > copy the hashed root password from a different system) But GRUB is > different... Haw. I am 733t. Figured it out. ;-) Pass in init=/bin/sh on the kernel line. -- ~ Carla Schroder www.tuxcomputing.com this message brought to you by Libranet 2.7 and Kmail ~ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: recover lost root password
On Saturday 08 March 2003 5:15 pm, Hugh Saunders wrote: > On Sat, Mar 08, 2003 at 04:41:36PM -0800, Carla Schroder wrote: > > Well here's a good one, is there a way to get into a system when > > you've lost the root password? Without a CD or boot floppy? Used to be > > you could pass in "init=/bin/sh" from LILO, and work some /etc/shadow > > magic. (like copy the hashed root password from a different system) > > But GRUB is different... > > I just tried that from GRUB [selected the menu item hit 'e' to edit on > the kernel line appened init=/bin/sh then 'b' to boot] hey-presto no > flippin password needed! and there was me thinking my laptop was almost > secure!! > > how can i prevent this from working? > [apart from bios password] > > hugh Password-protect GRUB. See http://www.gnu.org/manual/grub-0.90/html_mono/grub.html# Here's the full recipe, there are some tricky bits: as regular user, open /boot/grub/menu.lst and write it down, you want the kernel and root lines from this part: ## ## End Default Options ## title Libranet GNU/Linux, kernel 2.4.19 root(hd0,2) kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.4.19 root=/dev/hda3 ro savedefault (There are other ways to discover your boot parameter, see the GRUB manual.) restart machine, when Grub menu appears hit 'c' to get the command prompt type the root line as you copied it and hit return type the kernel line as you copied it, then add this to the end: init=/bin/bash and hit return type boot and hit return It will boot normally and stop at a command prompt, and will not ask for a login. Remount in readwrite: # mount -o, remount,rw / Using your fave editor, open /etc/shadow. At the top is the line for root's hashed password. root:$1$uz4u$D/5yS19.dNjNMlRnRO.:12037:0:9:7::: Delete the bit between the first set of colons: root::12037:0:9:7::: Now, remount as read-only: # mount -o, remount,ro / Now sync the filesystem: # sync;sync;sleep 10;sync;mount -o remount,ro / Restart init: # exec /sbin/init Now when you log in as root, it will not ask for a password. -- ~ Carla Schroder www.tuxcomputing.com this message brought to you by Libranet 2.7 and Kmail ~ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Comments on security, Re: recover lost root password
On Sunday 09 March 2003 1:46 am, Satish Iyer wrote: > Hi, >I am new user of Debian Gnu/Linux. I have > successfully setup and started using the system (my > understanding and knowledge grows day by day). > To my current understanding security seems to be a > major drawback of gnu/linux systems.(How else can you > explain such gaping holes?). Calling this a "gaping hole", as though it were something that should not be possible, shows a lack of understanding and knowledge. If you had followed the thread, you would have learned how to close this 'gaping hole', should you desire it. > I am also inherently suspicious of anything that goes > by "free" (Please try to convince me otherwise). I don't think anyone should waste their time trying to convince you of anything, except to do your own homework. Start at gnu.org. > As I see it an adminstrator has his task cut out for > him to ensure the security and confidentiality of the > organization. Big gaping duh. Show me the magic system where this is not true. > Gnu/Linux doesn't make things easy in > this crucial aspect!). > Is there a gnu/linux community concerned with these > issues? > Regards, > Satish *speechless* -- ~ Carla Schroder www.tuxcomputing.com this message brought to you by Libranet 2.7 and Kmail ~ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: recover lost root password
On Sunday 09 March 2003 6:43 am, Hugh Saunders wrote: > > Now when you log in as root, it will not ask for a password. > > excuse my rudeness but isnt that a Bad Thing? Well, hopefully you'll create a new one. ;-) The idea is to get into /etc/shadow and delete the hashed root password so you can reset it, because you lost it, remember? this is how you reset a lost root password without using a rescue disk. Another trick is once you gain write access to /etc/shadow is to copy over your hashed root password from another machine, where you know the root password. -- ~~~~~ Carla Schroder www.tuxcomputing.com this message brought to you by Libranet 2.7 and Kmail ~ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: recover lost root password
On Sunday 09 March 2003 8:01 am, Ian Melnick wrote: > Question, though. I thought when you boot into single-user mode you're > already root and you can just change the root password by running > passwd. Is it different now? Debian does not allow password-less single-user-mode logins, and I believe Red hat stopped the practice too. -- ~~~~~ Carla Schroder www.tuxcomputing.com this message brought to you by Libranet 2.7 and Kmail ~ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bad Debian (L.A.H.)
On Sunday 09 March 2003 9:10 am, J. Lambrecht wrote: > "From : Linux Administrator Handbook p.35 (Prentice Hall,2002) " > > Debian startup scripts > > If SuSE is the ultimate example of a well-designed, well-executed plan > for the management of startup scripts, Debian is the exact opposite. The > Debian scripts are fragile, undocumented, and unbelievably incosistent. > Sadly, it appears that the lack of a standard way of setting up scripts > has resulted in chaos in this case. Bad Debian! > ... > Good Luck Does the book cite any example? Do you have any? I wouldn't let something like this scare you away, trying to import scripts from a completely different system sounds a lot more difficult and messier. -- ~ Carla Schroder www.tuxcomputing.com this message brought to you by Libranet 2.7 and Kmail ~ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bad Debian (L.A.H.)
On Sunday 09 March 2003 7:45 pm, Monte Milanuk wrote: > Does the Debian method work? Obviously, yes. Is it perfect? Probably > not. Is it better or worse than SuSE or RedHat, I think that's a > personal preference. For those of you who seem to take such offense to > the notion, here's the email addresses listed in the book for the authors: > > Evi Nemeth[EMAIL PROTECTED] Perhaps reading the whole book would be wise, before firing off angry missives about dissing Debian. Evi Nemeth is the premier expert on Unix, and this book, Unix System Administration Handbook, is probably the most respected Unix book. As a previous poster said: >It appears to me that throughout the book, the authors call a spade a spade >as they see it. Debian got called on this one; trust me, RedHat gets larted >far more specifically and often, and SuSE gets thwocked a time or two as >well. I'll leave it to Google to enlighten people who are not familiar with Evi Nemeth. -- ~ Carla Schroder www.tuxcomputing.com this message brought to you by Libranet 2.7 and Kmail ~ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bad Debian (L.A.H.)
On Sunday 09 March 2003 8:17 pm, Carla Schroder wrote: > > Perhaps reading the whole book would be wise, before firing off angry > missives about dissing Debian. Evi Nemeth is the premier expert on Unix, > and this book, Unix System Administration Handbook, is probably the most > respected Er, Linux System Administration Handbook. Same sentiments. ;-) -- ~~~~~ Carla Schroder www.tuxcomputing.com this message brought to you by Libranet 2.7 and Kmail ~ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
debian spammed
Oh frabjous day, my debian-users list address is getting spammed. What a lovely world we live in. $100 cash reward for the inventor of an infallible spammer brain burner. $500 if I get to pull the switch -- ~ Carla Schroder www.tuxcomputing.com this message brought to you by Libranet 2.7 and Kmail ~ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] boot CD from grub?
On Tuesday 18 March 2003 5:11 pm, Jens Grivolla wrote: > I have a system that won't boot from (SCSI-)cdrom when any IDE > harddrives are configured in the BIOS (yes, this is very definitely a > bug). This is somewhat annoying and I am looking for a workaround. > > As I do have a floppy disk drive I was thinking of booting Grub from a > floppy disk and then chainloading on from the CD. Unfortunately, this > does not seem to be supported by Grub. Has anybody found a way to > make this work, or is there some other way to force booting from CD, > bypassing the BIOS? Well, supposedly GRUB can't boot a CD. Unless- and I have been meaning to try this, why don't you go first- you map it to hd(something) in boot.map. Then boot, passing in the root and kernel parameters. I haven't tried it, but GRUB cannot tell one kind of drive from another, so maybe it can work. Another thought is replace the SCSI CD with an IDE drive. -- ~ Carla Schroder www.tuxcomputing.com this message brought to you by Libranet 2.7 and Kmail ~ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Check the update from Microsoft.
On Wednesday 19 March 2003 2:09 pm, Colin Watson wrote: > On Wed, Mar 19, 2003 at 09:36:25PM -, Colin Ellis wrote: > > Who sent this and what the hell does it have to do with debian??!! > > > > Maybe we need a stronger anti-spam list to stop this crap appearing on > > the list?! > > If you mean the original spam, it didn't appear on the list; it was sent > privately to some of the list's subscribers. If you're talking about the > discussion, well, I don't see why people are bothering to discuss it, > but if it's that then you seriously need to get hold of a glass of good > whiskey and relax. A list manager that hides subscriber's addresses would be nice. I signed up for this list less than a month ago. Within a week I started getting spam on my list address, which seriously sucks, death to all spammers. I've been toying with the notion of asking the list admins if this is possible, but I'm a little reluctant because I'm new to the list, and I wouldn't be able to help. But since the topic came up well there's my 0.02. cheers, carla -- ~ Carla Schroder www.tuxcomputing.com this message brought to you by Libranet 2.7 and Kmail ~ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Check the update from Microsoft.
On Wednesday 19 March 2003 3:11 pm, Dave Sherohman wrote: > On Wed, Mar 19, 2003 at 02:45:11PM -0800, Carla Schroder wrote: > > A list manager that hides subscriber's addresses would be nice. > > Umm... Wouldn't that make offlist replies impossible? I don't know how to operate a mail list, so I don't know what it takes to prevent addresses from being harvested. I'd like it to be impossible for addresses to be sucked off a list by spammers. I don't much care for offlist replies, I suppose anyone who wants them can post their address. Just put in in a sig or something. -- ~ Carla Schroder www.tuxcomputing.com this message brought to you by Libranet 2.7 and Kmail ~ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Check the update from Microsoft.
On Thursday 20 March 2003 12:27 am, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Wed, Mar 19, 2003 at 04:04:35PM -0800, Carla Schroder wrote: > > I don't know how to operate a mail list, so I don't know what it > > takes to prevent addresses from being harvested. I'd like it to be > > impossible for addresses to be sucked off a list by spammers. I > > don't much care for offlist > replies, I suppose anyone who wants > > them can post their address. Just put in > in a sig or something. > > Communities are all-or-nothing. Either you participate or you don't. > Making it harder for legitimate mail to get to you is not a great > idea, not every response is appropriate on-list. I'm curious: Why is > this one so hard for folks to figure out? And why are you such a ranting idiot who won't shut up about this? -- ~ Carla Schroder www.tuxcomputing.com this message brought to you by Libranet 2.7 and Kmail ~ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: grub/lilo question
On Wednesday 17 September 2003 1:46 pm, Victory wrote: > Some one please let me know the advantage/disadvantage > about grub/lilo ext2/ext3. > > Regards, > Victor. 1. GRUB contains its own little command shell, for passing in or editing commands at boot time. It can read from a configuration file. It supports many filesystems, currently BSD FFS, DOS FAT16 and FAT32, Minix fs, Linux ext2fs, ReiserFS, and VSTa fs; and blocklists for files that do not appear in filesystems, such as chainloaders. GRUB reads filesystems and kernel executables, rather than inflexibly restricting the user to disk geometry. Install and remove operating systems as needed. Boot bare kernels, passing in modules and parameters from the command line. GRUB will even download OS images over the network. GRUB does not need a /boot partition, just let it own the MBR. 2. ext3 is the journaled version of ext2. It's really just an extension to ext2. You can convert back and forth, I don't know why you would want to, but you can. With other journaling filesystems, such as ReiserFS or JFS, there is no compatibility with other filesystems, so once you choose it, it's not easy to make a change. There is no reason I can think of to not use a journaling filesystem, any of the major Linux ones are good. -- ~~~~~ Carla Schroder www.tuxcomputing.com this message brought to you by Libranet 2.8 and Kmail ~ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Creating an diskimage of a debian system
On Wednesday 17 September 2003 8:57 pm, Karsten M. Self wrote: > on Mon, Sep 15, 2003 at 03:33:32PM +0200, Jasper Metselaar ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I have a Debian testing system and would like to make a backup (image) of > > it, so I can easily restore the system when I've messed things up.I > > searched through the list archives, but the messages I found are > > rather old.What's currently the best way to make an image of a debian > > system? My fave backup method is using Star and rsync, and backing up to another hard drive. It's fast and easy, and hard drives are so cheap you can have all the redundancy you want for not a lot of money. Star is like Gnu tar, but IMO way better, http://www.fokus.gmd.de/research/cc/glone/employees/joerg.schilling/private/star.html If you want to set up and configure your perfect system, then make bootable CDs from it, see http://tldp.net/HOWTO/Bootdisk-HOWTO/ If you're thinking of creating something like a Norton Ghost image, I don't know if there is a Linux equivalent. > > Please set your mailer/editor linewrap to 68-75 characters. I strongly > recommend 72 as a good default. > It reads fine in Kmail. Maybe your reader is funky. -- ~ Carla Schroder www.tuxcomputing.com this message brought to you by Libranet 2.8 and Kmail ~ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Creating an diskimage of a debian system
On Thursday 18 September 2003 12:48 am, Karsten M. Self wrote: > on Wed, Sep 17, 2003 at 10:38:39PM -0700, Carla Schroder ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > On Wednesday 17 September 2003 8:57 pm, Karsten M. Self wrote: > > > on Mon, Sep 15, 2003 at 03:33:32PM +0200, Jasper Metselaar > > > > ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > I have a Debian testing system and would like to make a backup > > > > (image) of it, so I can easily restore the system when I've messed > > > > things up.I searched through the list archives, but the messages I > > > > found are rather old.What's currently the best way to make an > > > > image of a debian system? > > > > My fave backup method is using Star and rsync, and backing up to > > another hard drive. It's fast and easy, and hard drives are so cheap > > you can have all the redundancy you want for not a lot of money. > > Online backups are convenient. They're not a persistant, redundant, > assured archive. > > What's your risk model? The fire / earthquake / hurricane / burglary / > disgruntled employee / vengeful ex having access to your primary system > and backup system sharing a site location will take out your primaries > and backups in one fell swoop. I've seen all of these scenarios. > > > Nearline backups are well and good. They're not an assured archival > system. Don't kid yourself into thinking they are. > All true. The question was about disk images and quick restores, not a complete disaster plan. -- ~ Carla Schroder www.tuxcomputing.com this message brought to you by Libranet 2.8 and Kmail ~ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: NAT
On Thursday 18 September 2003 5:30 am, Adrian Berardi wrote: > Hi, i'm a new debian user, and without too much experience in linux. > I'm trying to install a Debian here at home to use it as internet access > for a couple windows PCs. Someone told me that i had to install first the > two eth, then configure the networkcards, then install dhcp3 (for the PCs > to get a dinamic ip), and then do NAT (iptables) Everything worked OK, but > it is not the case of the NAT: i can access internet from de debian, but i > dont know how to configure or what to install for access internet from the > windows PCs through the Debian. Any comment will be kindly accepted.! > Best regards, Adrian > > Adrian Hi Adrian, The easiest way is to give your Debian box a static ip on the "inward" NIC, then set the gateway in the Windoze boxes to that IP. Then you need to use iptables for the actual NAT-ing, here is a very simple recipe that should make it work. Keep in mind this is not a complete firewall, this is just the bit you need to enable sharing the Internet connection: # modprobe iptable_nat # iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth0 -j MASQUERADE # echo "1" > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward This should work exactly as it's written, except make sure you specify the correct eth0 or eth1, whichever one is the "inward" card. -- ~ Carla Schroder www.tuxcomputing.com this message brought to you by Libranet 2.8 and Kmail ~ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
security update advice- SSH
I'm running the latest Libranet, which is based on Sarge. I'm confused over the latest round of SSH patches, it looks like they've issued patches for Woody, but not Sarge. I know the docs say that security updates for Sarge come a lot slower than for Woody- how do I know if I have the patched version of SSH or not? The one I have now is: OpenSSH_3.6.1p2 Debian 1:3.6.1p2-7.0.libranet.1, SSH protocols 1.5/2.0, OpenSSL 0x0090702f The announcements mention 1:3.4p1-0woody3. I'm trying to maintain my system via package managment, and not get all mixed up with source-built programs. I'm still getting the hang of this here Debian thing, thanks for any suggestions. -- ~~~~~ Carla Schroder www.tuxcomputing.com this message brought to you by Libranet 2.8 and Kmail ~ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: security update advice- SSH
On Thursday 18 September 2003 10:59 am, Colin Watson wrote: > On Thu, Sep 18, 2003 at 10:28:18AM -0700, Carla Schroder wrote: > > I'm running the latest Libranet, which is based on Sarge. I'm confused > > over the latest round of SSH patches, it looks like they've issued > > patches for Woody, but not Sarge. I know the docs say that security > > updates for Sarge come a lot slower than for Woody- how do I know if I > > have the patched version of SSH or not? The one I have now is: > > > > OpenSSH_3.6.1p2 Debian 1:3.6.1p2-7.0.libranet.1, SSH protocols 1.5/2.0, > > OpenSSL 0x0090702f > > sarge has not yet been patched. From that version number it looks as if > Libranet have picked up the first round of patches but not the second; > however, check /usr/share/doc/ssh/changelog.Debian.gz to see exactly > what they say they've done. Thanks, that's something I didn't know. And I found Libranet has its own security updater. Never a dull moment. :) -- ~ Carla Schroder www.tuxcomputing.com this message brought to you by Libranet 2.8 and Kmail ~ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MS mail bombs
On Friday 19 September 2003 11:58 pm, Ron Johnson wrote: > On Sat, 2003-09-20 at 00:22, Steve Lamb wrote: > > On Fri, 19 Sep 2003 23:08:42 -0600 > > > > "Walt L. Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Is there anyone else out there being mail bombed with emails > > > that look like there from M$? The rate at which their coming > > > is increasing exponentially. > > > > My solution has been exim4, exiscan-acl, clamav, spamassassin and > > liberal use of shorewall's blacklist. > > Does that prevent the emails from being downloaded from the ISP's > pop3 server in the 1st place? > > -- No, this kind of setup is for someone running their own mailserver. There are two ways to process mail at the server on your ISP account. One is using Webmail, if they offer it. Log in and delete the crap out of it. :) The other way is a neat little trick I use on my ISP account- limit the size of messages to download, I limit them to 2000 bytes. You can try different sizes to see what works. Then when I check mail a popup window appears showing a list of messages, with subject lines and the senders of any messages bigger than 2000 bytes. Then I can either leave them on the server, delete them, or download them. I don't know if all mail clients do this, it's worth checking out. -- ~ Carla Schroder www.tuxcomputing.com this message brought to you by Libranet 2.8 and Kmail ~ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MS mail bombs
On Saturday 20 September 2003 10:27 am, Steve Lamb wrote: > On Sat, 20 Sep 2003 02:56:10 -0500 > > Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Ummm, the pop server that stores your email until you press what- > > ever key in your MUA that fetches the email from pop..net > > down to your PC. > > Uhm, no. You're operating under the assumption everyone lets their ISP > handle their mail. Ron's posts were perfectly clear, I understood what he was talking about. Yeah, so you run your own mailserver, I'm impressed- that doesn't have anything to do with Ron's question. I like that the question came up, it's a common problem, and I appreciate the helpful answers. -- ~ Carla Schroder www.tuxcomputing.com this message brought to you by Libranet 2.8 and Kmail ~ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Uppercasing filenames
On Saturday 20 September 2003 2:06 pm, Jeff Elkins wrote: > I need to convert a bunch of filenames to uppercase. I tried the script > below, which does...nothing. > > #!/bin/sh > for file in $* > do > if [ -f $file ] > then > ucfile=`echo $file | tr [a-z] [A-Z]` > if [ $file != $ucfile ] > then > mv -i $file $ucfile > fi > fi > done > > Any tips? > > TIA > > Jeff Elkins CD to the directory the files are in, then try: for i in * ; do mv -i $i `echo $i | tr [a-z] [A-Z]` ; done -- ~ Carla Schroder www.tuxcomputing.com this message brought to you by Libranet 2.8 and Kmail ~ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MS mail bombs
On Saturday 20 September 2003 2:27 pm, Ron Johnson wrote: > > The other way is a neat little trick I use on my ISP account- limit the > > size of messages to download, I limit them to 2000 bytes. You can try > > different sizes to see what works. Then when I check mail a popup window > > appears showing a list of messages, with subject lines and the senders of > > any messages bigger than 2000 bytes. Then I can either leave them on the > > server, delete them, or download them. I don't know if all mail clients > > do this, it's worth checking out. > > Well that's sweet. > > I see that you use KMail. Is it KMail that gives you this capability? Yes, and I'm pretty sure Evolution, Outlook, eudora, and other major mail clients can do it too. I love Kmail, it's extremely configurable and reliable. -- ~ Carla Schroder www.tuxcomputing.com this message brought to you by Libranet 2.8 and Kmail ~ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: burning a CD
On Thursday 25 September 2003 11:59 am, Curtis Vaughan wrote: > I have put a CD with MS Office in one Linux Box. I need to copy its > contents for burning on a separate Linux box. What is the best way to > do this? > > I supposed I could just copy the entire contents to a directory on the > second box. Or I could tar the contents to the Linux box, couldn't I, > and then somehow tell xcdroast to burn from a tar image? > Or, I supposed I could somehow mount the CDRom of the first box on the > second box and then just do a CD copy? > > I don't really know, I've never done this before. > > Curtis If it's Office 2000 or older, a simple disk copy will work. If it's XP, I don't know. If an ordinary disk copy does not work, try the dd command, as it does a literal byte-by-byte copy. This should take care of any odd/hidden/sekkrit bits. -- ~ Carla Schroder www.tuxcomputing.com this message brought to you by Libranet 2.8 and Kmail ~ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Info Request.
On Wednesday 24 September 2003 10:57 am, Weissgerber, Tom L wrote: > Cad Consultancy, > > I am the manager of a group in the United States working for Intel > Corporation. My group is responsible for designing PCB's as well as > Mechanical fixturing to support our product. I am looking at opening a > remote design site within Intel at our Bangalore site. My goal is to funnel > work to an external Design house within India. I would like to set up an > informal meeting to understand your abilities in PCB design and Mechanical > design. > 1. How about funneling work into the US, instead of out of it? 2. How about paying attention when addressing your mail? 3. Sheesh -- ~ Carla Schroder www.tuxcomputing.com this message brought to you by Libranet 2.8 and Kmail ~ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
