https://lists.debian.org/ port 443 unreachable

2023-09-03 Thread Marco
Hello!

Currently it seems that the mailing list management software isn't
reachable via HTTPS port 443 or 80, I get a timeout. Port 25 is
reachable.

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kind regard
Marco



Re: Backup systems

2023-09-03 Thread Michael Kjörling
On 2 Sep 2023 14:49 -0700, from dpchr...@holgerdanske.com (David Christensen):
> So, 693 GB backup size, 98 backups, 67 TB apparent total backup storage, and
> 777 GB actual total backup storage.  So, a savings of about 88:1.
> 
> What statistics are other readers seeing for similar use-cases and their
> backup solutions?

8.07 TiB physically stored on one backup drive holding 174 backups;
11.4 TiB total logical (excluding effects of compression) data on the
source; 7.83 TiB hot current logical data on the source (excluding
things like ZFS snapshots and compression).

Which by your way of calculating seems to work out to an about 246:1
savings compared to simply keeping every single copy in full and
uncompressed. (Which would require almost 2 PB of storage.) But this
figure is a bit exaggerated since there are parts of the backups that
I prune after a while while keeping the rest of that backup, so let's
be very generous and call it maybe a 100:1 savings in practice.

Which is still pretty good for something that only does raw copying
with whole-file deduplication.

I have a wide mix of file sizes and content types; everything from
tiny Maildir message files through photos in the tens of megabytes
range to VM disk image files in the tens of gigabytes range, ranging
from highly compressible to essentially incompressible, and ranging
from files that practically never change after I initially store them
to ones that change all the time.

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Re: https://lists.debian.org/ port 443 unreachable

2023-09-03 Thread Michael Kjörling
On 3 Sep 2023 10:02 +0200, from m...@dorfdsl.de (Marco):
> Currently it seems that the mailing list management software isn't
> reachable via HTTPS port 443 or 80, I get a timeout. Port 25 is
> reachable.

Worked fine for me at 10:05 UTC.

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Re: https://lists.debian.org/ port 443 unreachable

2023-09-03 Thread Marco
Am 03.09.2023 um 10:06:15 Uhr schrieb Michael Kjörling:

> On 3 Sep 2023 10:02 +0200, from m...@dorfdsl.de (Marco):
> > Currently it seems that the mailing list management software isn't
> > reachable via HTTPS port 443 or 80, I get a timeout. Port 25 is
> > reachable.  
> 
> Worked fine for me at 10:05 UTC.

Now it works again here, seemed to be a temporary problem.



More on getting Stable Diffusion working: CUDA

2023-09-03 Thread Carl Fink

Hi,

So I finally found a scripted way to get SD going on my PC using venv. 
It works, but it complains about not being able to use the GPU via CUDA.


This ASUS PN53 has a Radeon 600M GPU. Any suggestions on actually being 
able to use it for AI?


Thanks.

-Carl Fink



Re: More on getting Stable Diffusion working: CUDA

2023-09-03 Thread Carl Fink

On 9/3/23 08:24, Carl Fink wrote:

Hi,

So I finally found a scripted way to get SD going on my PC using venv. 
It works, but it complains about not being able to use the GPU via CUDA.


This ASUS PN53 has a Radeon 600M GPU. Any suggestions on actually 
being able to use it for AI?


Aha. According to this page 
(https://pytorch.org/blog/pytorch-for-amd-rocm-platform-now-available-as-python-package/) 
that GPU is not supported by PyTorch. Oh, well.


-Carl Fink



Re: WORKAROUND (longish): was bookworm and network connections

2023-09-03 Thread Curt
On 2023-09-02, Brian  wrote:
> On Sat 02 Sep 2023 at 19:37:22 +0100, Brian wrote:
>
>> On Sat 02 Sep 2023 at 08:19:56 -0600, D. R. Evans wrote:
>> 
>> [...]
>> 
>> > I will file a bug report.
>> 
>> You have filed the report against general. This is a non-optimal
>> package. Someone may or may not move it to a better place.
>> 
>> Doing it for yourself:
>> 
>> Send a mail to
>> 
>>   cont...@bugs.debian.org
>> 
>> Ib the mail body put
>> 
>>   ressign 1051086 installation-report
>>   thanks
>
> Sorry. That's "reassign".
>

unsuscribe



Re: I uninstalled OpenMediaVault (because totally overkill for me) and replaced it with borgbackup and rsyncq

2023-09-03 Thread David
On Sat, 2023-09-02 at 23:57 +0200, Linux-Fan wrote:
> Michael Kjörling writes:
> 
> [...]
> 
> > The biggest issue for me is ensuring that I am not dependent on
> > _anything_ on the backed-up system itself to start restoring that
> > system from a backup. In other words, enabling bare-metal
> > restoration.
> > I figure that I can always download a Debian live ISO, put that on
> > a
> > USB stick, set up an environment to access the (encrypted) backup
> > drive, set up partitions on new disks, and start copying; if I were
> > using backup software that uses some kind of custom format, that
> > would
> > include keeping a copy of an installation package of that and
> > whatever
> > else it needs for installing and running within a particular
> > distribution version, and making sure to specifically test that,
> > ideally without Internet access, so that I can get to the point of
> > starting to copy things back. (I figure that the boot loader is the
> > easy part to all this.)
> 
> [...]
> 
> My personal way to approach this is as follows:
> 
>  * I identify the material needed to restore.
>    It consists of
> 
>     - the backup itself
>     - suitable Linux OS to run a restore process on
>     - the backup software
>     - the backup key
>     - a password to decrypt the backup key
> 
>  * I create a live DVD (using `live-build`) containing
>    the Linux OS (including GUI, gparted and debian-installer!),
>    backup software (readily installed inside the live system),
>    backup key (as an encrypted file) but not the password nor
>    the backup itself.
> 
>    Instead I decided to add:
> 
>    - a copy of an SSH identity I can use to access a
>  read-only copy of the backup through my server and
>    - a copy of the encrypted password manager database
>  in case I forgot the backup password but not the
>  password manager password and also in case I would
>  be stuck with the Live DVD but not a copy of the
>  password such that I could use one of the password
>  manager passwords to access an online copy of the
>  backup.
> 
>  * When I still used physical media in my backup strategy
>    these were external SSDs (not ideal in terms of data
>    retention, I know). I partitioned them and made them
>    able to boot the customized live system (through syslinux).
> 
>    If you took such a drive and a PC of matching architecture
>    (say: amd64) then everything was in place to restore from
>    that drive (except for the password...). The resulting Debian
>    would probably be one release behind (because I rarely updated
>    the live image on the drive) but the data would be as up to
>    date as the contained backup. The assumtion here was that one
>    would be permitted to boot a custom OS off the drive or have
>    access to a Linux that could read it because I formatted the
>    “data” part with ext4 which is not natively readable on
>    Windows.
> 
> In addition to that, each copy of my backups includes a copy of the
> backup  
> program executable (a JAR file and a statically compiled Rust program
> in my  
> case) and some Windows exe files that could be used to restore the
> backup on  
> Windows machines in event of being stuck with a copy of the backup
> “only”.
> 
> While this scheme is pretty strong in theory, I update and test it
> far too  
> rarely since it is not really easy to script the process, but at
> least I  
> tested the correct working of the backup restore after creation of
> the live  
> image by starting the restore from inside a VM.
> 
> HTH
> Linux-Fan
> 
> öö
> 
I have also been trying UpenMediaVault and it's an overkill for me.

I have a Dell R320 fitted with 8 1T SAS drives, the hardware raid is
turned off as OpenMediaVault uses sorfware RAID.

If I turn the hardware raid on can I use Debian as the opperating
system?

Thank you for any help,

David.



Re: I uninstalled OpenMediaVault (because totally overkill for me) and replaced it with borgbackup and rsyncq

2023-09-03 Thread Gareth Evans


> On 3 Sep 2023, at 19:16, David  wrote:
[...]
> I have a Dell R320 fitted with 8 1T SAS drives, the hardware raid is
> turned off as OpenMediaVault uses sorfware RAID.
> If I turn the hardware raid on can I use Debian as the opperating
> system?

Hi David,

In general, outside of certain relatively niche use cases, I believe software 
raid is to be preferred due to comparable performance and lack of future 
hardware compatibility/availability issues.

See for example (if with some contradictions)

https://www.techtarget.com/searchstorage/tip/Key-differences-in-software-RAID-vs-hardware-RAID

Debian supports software raid, in the form of MDRAID.  I seemm to recall this 
is usually combined with LVM.

OpenZFS may be of interest, possibly root on ZFS too.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenZFS

https://openzfs.org/wiki/System_Administration

https://openzfs.github.io/openzfs-docs/Getting%20Started/Debian/index.html

There doesn't seem to be documentation for root on zfs for bookworm yet.  I 
imagine the bullseye instructions, suitably adapted for repositories etc, might 
suffice, but I upgraded a root on ZFS installation from Buster to Bullseye to 
Bookworm (following the release notes in each case) so haven't tried to install 
from scratch in years.

You will need to turn hardware raid off in either case (MDRAID or ZFS)

If you have actual raid controller cards, that may not be possible iiuc - I'm 
sure someone (maybe even me) could advise if you provide details of raid 
hardware if relevant.

Best wishes,
Gareth




> 
> Thank you for any help,
> 
> David.


Re: https://lists.debian.org/ port 443 unreachable

2023-09-03 Thread Geert Stappers
On Sun, Sep 03, 2023 at 01:35:14PM +0200, Marco wrote:
> Am 03.09.2023 um 10:06:15 Uhr schrieb Michael Kjörling:
> 
> > On 3 Sep 2023 10:02 +0200, from m...@dorfdsl.de (Marco):
> > > Currently it seems that the mailing list management software isn't
> > > reachable via HTTPS port 443 or 80, I get a timeout. Port 25 is
> > > reachable.  
> > 
> > Worked fine for me at 10:05 UTC.
> 
> Now it works again here, seemed to be a temporary problem.
> 

My guess is it was maintenance on the webserver.


Groeten
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- Did not report an "also down for me"
- Wrote this email to express  "Thanks for reporting"
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Re: bookworm and network connections

2023-09-03 Thread Darac Marjal


On 02/09/2023 13:09, Brad Rogers wrote:

On Sat, 2 Sep 2023 12:08:37 +0100
Brian  wrote:

Hello Brian,


I did not write any of the text you quote.


You did, but it was not what Timothy was responding to.

What you wrote was quoted right at the bottom of the message, and
irrelevant to Timothy's response.

Which begs the question:
Why do some people respond to a message from person Y, when they're
/actually/ dealing with something written by person X?
One possibility is that espoused by Outlook (which we all know is such a 
paragon of email etiquette(!)), namely "You are not responding to the 
latest message in this conversation". That is, I can envision a 
situation where someone wishes to respond to a point in the email thread 
but, rather than replying to the individual message in question, replies 
at the bottom of the chain, perhaps for reasons of "visibility".


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Re: Backup systems

2023-09-03 Thread David Christensen

On 9/3/23 03:02, Michael Kjörling wrote:

8.07 TiB physically stored on one backup drive holding 174 backups;
11.4 TiB total logical (excluding effects of compression) data on the
source; 7.83 TiB hot current logical data on the source (excluding
things like ZFS snapshots and compression).

Which by your way of calculating seems to work out to an about 246:1
savings compared to simply keeping every single copy in full and
uncompressed.



Without seeing a console session, I am unsure what you mean by 
"physically stored", "total logical (excluding effects of compression) 
data", and "hot current logical data ... (excluding things like ZFS 
snapshots and compression)".



What partitioning scheme, volume manager, file system, compression, 
etc., do you use on your backup server?



I had thought you were using rsnapsnot/ rsync --link-dest, but you also 
mention ZFS snapshots.  Please clarify.



David



Fixed the ethernet problem and know I have no sound!

2023-09-03 Thread Maureen L Thomas
I use an all in one Lonova computer.  I have the latest Bookworm 
installed and had my wired connection kept shutting itself off.  I 
looked it up on the net and yesterday I installed ethtool and today I 
have my wired connection working but no sound.  I did find all my 
settings as they have been which is on.  I did lspic and found this 
information:


00:1f.3 Audio device: Intel Corporation 200 Series PCH HD Audio

DeviceName: Onboard - Sound

Subsystem: Lenovo 200 Series PCH HD Audio

Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 32, IRQ 129, IOMMU group 7

Memory at df22 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K]

Memory at df20 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=64K]

Capabilities: [50] Power Management version 3

Capabilities: [60] MSI: Enable+ Count=1/1 Maskable- 64bit+

Kernel driver in use: snd_hda_intel

Kernel modules: snd_hda_intel


I could use some help with this one.

Granny Moe


Components of the computer

2023-09-03 Thread William Torrez Corea
My battery and Optical disc drive is bad:
How can I recover these devices?


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Re: Components of the computer

2023-09-03 Thread Marco
Am 03.09.2023 um 21:40:11 Uhr schrieb William Torrez Corea:

> My battery and Optical disc drive is bad:
> How can I recover these devices?

You need to buy a new accumulator ("battery") for your machine.

When the optical drive cannot read CDs anymore, try to clean the lens.
If that doesn't work, replace it. Notebook optical drives are
standardized, only the cover is different. Unmount the front cover from
your current optical drive and mount it to the new one.



Re: Fixed the ethernet problem and know I have no sound!

2023-09-03 Thread Marco
Am 03.09.2023 um 22:00:02 Uhr schrieb Maureen L Thomas:

> I could use some help with this one.

Does pavucontrol see your soundcard?
Check the volume levels.
Maybe there are multiple sound cards (e.g. graphics card with HDMI or
DP, USB headsets). Make sure the application plays the sound on the
device where you want it.