Re: Intermittent problem with integrated webcam / Thinkpad E130/ Stretch

[deloptes]

Andrei POPESCU wrote:

> Some of us do need the webcam for video calls / conferences ;)
> (family, friends or work)
> 

Andrei, forgive me the the joke, but I doubt you are a model or movie star,
I would insist looking at :D - same for me :D.
I understand this but do not understand completely why would this be
mandatory.


> There are also much more elegant solutions (just an example):
> 
> https://shop.protonmail.com/products/webcam-cover

another one made out of plastic and in China - pfui! My solution is
displaceable and replaceable piece of paper with duct tape. It has even
lower CO2 footprint :D

Re: Debian 9, dhclient does not update gateway

[Anssi Saari]

Tapio Lehtonen  writes:

> This is tail from /var/lib/dhcp/dhclient.leases
> lease {
>   interface "eth0";
>   fixed-address 192.168.250.41;
>   option subnet-mask 255.255.255.0;
>   option routers 192.168.250.6;
>   option dhcp-lease-time 3600;
>   option dhcp-message-type 5;
>   option domain-name-servers 192.168.250.2,192.168.250.10;
>   option dhcp-server-identifier 192.168.250.2;
>   option domain-name "office.mydomain.fi";
>   renew 2 2021/01/05 14:26:38;
>   rebind 2 2021/01/05 14:52:52;
>   expire 2 2021/01/05 15:00:22;
> }

Could it be there are other leases in that file which are still valid?
Or other files? For example, my Debian 9 box has these files:

-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1046 Jan  7 09:44 /var/lib/dhcp/dhclient.eth0.leases
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  525 Feb 10  2013 /var/lib/dhcp/dhclient.eth1.leases
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root0 Aug 23  2018 /var/lib/dhcp/dhclient.leases

So for me the valid lease is actually in
/var/lib/dhcp/dhclient.eth0.leases and dhclient.leases is empty and
dhclient.eth1.leases is a blast from the past.

I'm not using NetworkManager though. NetworkManager might have its own
idea about gateway address.

Re: Intermittent problem with integrated webcam / Thinkpad E130/ Stretch

[deloptes]

Ottavio Caruso wrote:

> No, I mean the opposite. The oldest that can be installed on Stretch
> Because I didn't have a problem with older kernels. I must have
> uninstalled some of the oldest kernel I had. At the moment I have:
> 

from what I read you need a 3.x kernel to be sure it works.

Last time I checked the kernels in backports I couldn't find older one ...
but there are bugs one would not want to have ... I can't help - sorry.

lua-ldoc restricts lua versions and doesn't work with lua5.3

[Eugene Pakhomov]

Hello,

I'm using Ubuntu 20.04 but AFAIK lua-ldoc comes from Debian.
As described in the title, it doesn't work with lua5.3. The Debian patch
0001-Use-lua-any-to-choose-the-right-interpreter-version.patch for lua-doc
explicitly allows only 5.2 and 5.1.

Why is there a restriction in the first place? The commit that added the
patch doesn't have a helpful message and I cannot find any relevant
information.
Would just removing the line with "Lua-Versions" make sense?

Regards,
Eugene

Re: lua-ldoc restricts lua versions and doesn't work with lua5.3

[Thomas Schmitt]

Hi,

Eugene Pakhomov wrote:
> Why is there a restriction in the first place?

Interesting question.
In
  https://tracker.debian.org/media/packages/l/lua-ldoc/control-1.4.6-1
i see
  Depends: lua-any,
   ...
   lua5.1 | lua5.2 | lua5.3,


> Would just removing the line with "Lua-Versions" make sense?

  https://sources.debian.org/src/dh-lua/27/man/lua-any.1.txt
rather gives me the idea to add "5.3" before "5.2".
I'd try that and test all my use cases.


Have a nice day :)

Thomas

Re: Intermittent problem with integrated webcam / Thinkpad E130/ Stretch

[Andrei POPESCU]

On Jo, 07 ian 21, 09:37:10, Ottavio Caruso wrote:
> On 07/01/2021 01:06, deloptes wrote:
> > Ottavio Caruso wrote:
> > 
> > > In this case, what's the oldest kernel I can install on Stretch?
> > you mean the most recent?
> 
> No, I mean the opposite. The oldest that can be installed on Stretch Because
> I didn't have a problem with older kernels. I must have uninstalled some of
> the oldest kernel I had. At the moment I have:
> 
> 
> $ dpkg -l|grep linux-image
> ii  linux-image-4.19.0-0.bpo.9-amd64  4.19.118-2+deb10u1~bpo9+1
> amd64Linux 4.19 for 64-bit PCs (signed)
> ii  linux-image-4.9.0-11-amd644.9.189-3+deb9u2   amd64
> Linux 4.9 for 64-bit PCs
> ii  linux-image-4.9.0-12-amd644.9.210-1+deb9u1   amd64
> Linux 4.9 for 64-bit PCs
> ii  linux-image-4.9.0-14-amd644.9.246-2   amd64Linux
> 4.9 for 64-bit PCs
> ii  linux-image-amd64 4.19+105+deb10u4~bpo9+1
> amd64Linux for 64-bit PCs (meta-package)

Typically a Debian release should run with the kernel from the previous 
release (makes dist-upgrade easier), specific exceptions are mentioned 
in the Release Notes.

If possible you should stick with kernels from the LTS project (as far 
as I know stretch is still supported).

For testing purposes you can find all Debian packages ever uploaded to 
the archive at https://snapshot.debian.org.

Kind regards,
Andrei
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Re: lua-ldoc restricts lua versions and doesn't work with lua5.3

[Thomas Schmitt]

Hi,

Eugene Pakhomov wrote:
> wouldn't it make more sense to:
> - Remove the Lua-Versions line
> - Make lua-ldoc package depend just on lua-any (it will bring some lua with
> it by itself)

Whatever works best for you locally. :))

But if you ever meet a Debian Developer who is willing to touch the package,
it might be better to have updated the existing method of version choice
rather than dismissing the patch from 2015.
On the other hand, the package's whole environment seems to be drying out.
So getting any change into it might be hopeless.


Have a nice day :)

Thomas

Re: Is this possible with DAC or ACL?

[Yvan Masson]

Thanks all for your detailed answers! Sometimes I miss simple things :-)

Re: lua-ldoc restricts lua versions and doesn't work with lua5.3

[Eugene Pakhomov]

Hi Thomas,

Thanks for a prompt reply and for the details.
Given that LDoc itself in its original sources doesn't specify any
restrictions on the Lua version, wouldn't it make more sense to:
- Remove the Lua-Versions line
- Make lua-ldoc package depend just on lua-any (it will bring some lua with
it by itself)

- Eugene

On Thu, Jan 7, 2021 at 1:21 PM Thomas Schmitt  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Eugene Pakhomov wrote:
> > Why is there a restriction in the first place?
>
> Interesting question.
> In
>   https://tracker.debian.org/media/packages/l/lua-ldoc/control-1.4.6-1
> i see
>   Depends: lua-any,
>...
>lua5.1 | lua5.2 | lua5.3,
>
>
> > Would just removing the line with "Lua-Versions" make sense?
>
>   https://sources.debian.org/src/dh-lua/27/man/lua-any.1.txt
> rather gives me the idea to add "5.3" before "5.2".
> I'd try that and test all my use cases.
>
>
> Have a nice day :)
>
> Thomas
>
>

Re: Intermittent problem with integrated webcam / Thinkpad E130/ Stretch

[Celejar]

On Thu, 7 Jan 2021 09:37:42 +0200
Andrei POPESCU  wrote:

> On Jo, 07 ian 21, 02:06:33, deloptes wrote:
> > 
> > I'm just wondering why one would want to have a spy cam on his notebook
> > working. In the company everybody glue something on the webcam or painted
> > it with permanent black.
> > At home - audio is off and the webcam is fully covered as well.
> > ... but in the case it is your privacy matter.
>  
> Some of us do need the webcam for video calls / conferences ;)
> (family, friends or work)
> 
> There are also much more elegant solutions (just an example):
> 
> https://shop.protonmail.com/products/webcam-cover

Yes. And what does "audio is off" mean - is the microphone physically
sound-shielded, or just disabled in software (on some level of the
system)? If the latter, why shouldn't that suffice for the camera as
well?

Celejar

Re: AMD Radeon 6490M

[LuKaRo]

> Andrei POPESCU composed on 2021-01-04 21:45 (UTC+0200):
>> An initramfs rebuild is still needed, maybe that's the reason.
On 1/4/21 9:06 PM, Felix Miata wrote:
> This is why I suggested to test first via radeon.modeset=0. Blacklist means 
> don't
> load the radeon kernel module, which is what radeon.modeset=0 causes.

I tried radeon.modeset and also did initramfs rebuilds, neither helped
though.

But I went on and installed Arch Linux as I commonly use it on my other
machines, and after some fiddling with the Apple UEFI, the system worked
out of the box by installing mesa and the ati drivers :)

Thanks for your help!

list package version if installed (scriptable)

[Jim Popovitch]

Hello!

What is a script'able way to list a pkg version (or nothing if it is not
installed)?

+1 for POSIX compatibility.

tia,

-Jim P.

Re: Intermittent problem with integrated webcam / Thinkpad E130/ Stretch

[deloptes]

Andrei POPESCU wrote:

> Typically a Debian release should run with the kernel from the previous
> release (makes dist-upgrade easier), specific exceptions are mentioned
> in the Release Notes.
> 
> If possible you should stick with kernels from the LTS project (as far
> as I know stretch is still supported).
> 
> For testing purposes you can find all Debian packages ever uploaded to
> the archive at https://snapshot.debian.org.

but Otavio is looking for older kernel and I looked for such few weeks ago
and couldn't find such.

I would try jessie
http://ftp.at.debian.org/debian/pool/main/l/linux/kernel-image-3.16.0-6-amd64-di_3.16.56-1+deb8u1_amd64.udeb

if this is what you mean that it should work with older release

Re: list package version if installed (scriptable)

[Greg Wooledge]

On Thu, Jan 07, 2021 at 08:12:52AM -0500, Jim Popovitch wrote:
> What is a script'able way to list a pkg version (or nothing if it is not
> installed)?
> 
> +1 for POSIX compatibility.

unicorn:~$ dpkg-query --show --showformat '${Version}\n' bash
5.0-4
unicorn:~$ dpkg-query --show --showformat '${Version}\n' gnome-core
dpkg-query: no packages found matching gnome-core
unicorn:~$ dpkg-query --show --showformat '${Version}\n' gnome-core 2>/dev/null
unicorn:~$ 

Re: list package version if installed (scriptable)

[Andy Smith]

Hi Jim,

On Thu, Jan 07, 2021 at 08:12:52AM -0500, Jim Popovitch wrote:
> What is a script'able way to list a pkg version (or nothing if it is not
> installed)?

$ dpkg-query --showformat '${Version}\t${Status}\n' --show coreutils 
8.23-4  install ok installed
$ dpkg-query --showformat '${Version}\t${Status}\n' --show coreutils | awk 
'/installed/ { print $1 }'
8.23-4
$ dpkg-query --showformat '${Version}\t${Status}\n' --show wowbagger
dpkg-query: no packages found matching wowbagger
$ echo $?
1

Cheers,
Andy

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Teamviewer and Wyland on Debian Buster Gnome desktop

[deloptes]

Hi,

after upgrading one machine from Stretch to Buster Teamviewer told me that
it does not support remote control with Wyland.

What should I use to get remote control (occasionally) in this
configuration?

thank in advance

Re: Teamviewer and Wyland on Debian Buster Gnome desktop

[Greg Wooledge]

On Thu, Jan 07, 2021 at 02:25:03PM +0100, deloptes wrote:
> after upgrading one machine from Stretch to Buster Teamviewer told me that
> it does not support remote control with Wyland.

Either run GNOME in an X11 session, or run someting other than GNOME.

Re: Teamviewer and Wyland on Debian Buster Gnome desktop

[deloptes]

Greg Wooledge wrote:

> Either run GNOME in an X11 session, or run someting other than GNOME.

Thank you - how do I let Gnome run in X11 session? I am afraid the user
would stick to Gnome. 

Re: Intermittent problem with integrated webcam / Thinkpad E130/ Stretch

[Andrei POPESCU]

On Jo, 07 ian 21, 14:22:30, deloptes wrote:
> Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> 
> > Typically a Debian release should run with the kernel from the previous
> > release (makes dist-upgrade easier), specific exceptions are mentioned
> > in the Release Notes.
> > 
> > If possible you should stick with kernels from the LTS project (as far
> > as I know stretch is still supported).
> > 
> > For testing purposes you can find all Debian packages ever uploaded to
> > the archive at https://snapshot.debian.org.
> 
> but Otavio is looking for older kernel and I looked for such few weeks ago
> and couldn't find such.

http://snapshot.debian.org/package/linux/

(unless you know the exact package name search by source package name)
 
> I would try jessie
> http://ftp.at.debian.org/debian/pool/main/l/linux/kernel-image-3.16.0-6-amd64-di_3.16.56-1+deb8u1_amd64.udeb
> 
> if this is what you mean that it should work with older release

That is a special kernel for the Debian Installed (note the -di in the 
name)

Kind regards,
Andrei
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Re: Intermittent problem with integrated webcam / Thinkpad E130/ Stretch

[tomas]

On Thu, Jan 07, 2021 at 09:44:49AM +0100, deloptes wrote:
> Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> 
> > Some of us do need the webcam for video calls / conferences ;)
> > (family, friends or work)
> > 
> 
> Andrei, forgive me the the joke, but I doubt you are a model or movie star,
> I would insist looking at :D - same for me :D.
> I understand this but do not understand completely why would this be
> mandatory.
> 
> 
> > There are also much more elegant solutions (just an example):
> > 
> > https://shop.protonmail.com/products/webcam-cover
> 
> another one made out of plastic and in China - pfui! [...]

A while ago, one of our local geekspace presented a clever origami-like
scheme to make such a retractable cover out of post-it notes [1].

The sticker part sticks to the laptop bezel and it has a sliding part
to open and close the lid. Text is in German, but it should be easy
to follow without the language.

Cheers
[1] https://quotes.yourdictionary.com/author/quotes/194924
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Re: Teamviewer and Wyland on Debian Buster Gnome desktop

[Georgi Naplatanov]

On 1/7/21 3:41 PM, deloptes wrote:
> Greg Wooledge wrote:
> 
>> Either run GNOME in an X11 session, or run someting other than GNOME.
> 
> Thank you - how do I let Gnome run in X11 session? I am afraid the user
> would stick to Gnome. 

Hey,

I'm not a Gnome user but I think that you have to execute something like
this:

# apt install xorg

HTH

Kind regards
Georgi

Re: Teamviewer and Wyland on Debian Buster Gnome desktop

[Kenneth Parker]

On Thu, Jan 7, 2021, 8:30 AM deloptes  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> after upgrading one machine from Stretch to Buster Teamviewer told me that
> it does not support remote control with Wyland.
>

Excuse me, but I am drawing a Blank, when searching for information on a
Package called "Wyland".   Are you, by any chance referring to Wayland, the
alternative to Xorg?

Thanks!

Kenneth Parker

>

Re: Teamviewer and Wyland on Debian Buster Gnome desktop

[Dominik George]

Hi,

>Thank you - how do I let Gnome run in X11 session? I am afraid the user
>would stick to Gnome. 
>

Set UseWayland=false in /etc/gdm3/*.conf

-nik

Re: Teamviewer and Wyland on Debian Buster Gnome desktop

[Greg Wooledge]

On Thu, Jan 07, 2021 at 10:15:11AM -0500, Kenneth Parker wrote:
> Excuse me, but I am drawing a Blank, when searching for information on a
> Package called "Wyland".   Are you, by any chance referring to Wayland, the
> alternative to Xorg?

Duh.  Don't be a prick over typos.

Re: Teamviewer and Wyland on Debian Buster Gnome desktop

[Kenneth Parker]

On Thu, Jan 7, 2021, 10:18 AM Dominik George  wrote:

> >Excuse me, but I am drawing a Blank, when searching for information on a
> >Package called "Wyland".   Are you, by any chance referring to Wayland,
> the
> >alternative to Xorg?
>
> Congratulations.
>
> Not even I am that obsessed with pointing out the mistakes of others.
>

Please!I am a Noob, when it comes to X11 vs Wayland.  And I have,
*multiple* times been introduced to new Packages, via the Debian Users
email list.

I was, fully expecting to find a reference to something, more related to
Remote Control than Graphics, actually *called* Wyland.

I am learning, just like others on this List.

Kenneth Parker

>

Re: Teamviewer and Wayland on Debian Buster Gnome desktop

[deloptes]

Greg Wooledge wrote:

> Duh.  Don't be a prick over typos.

Sorry guys, I don't know the beast and don't use it. I just watched a
presentation about it once.
I did not cross check how it is exactly spelled. So it was more of an
ignorance than a typo.

And thank you for the hints

Re: Teamviewer and Wayland on Debian Buster Gnome desktop

[Kenneth Parker]

On Thu, Jan 7, 2021, 11:20 AM deloptes  wrote:

> Greg Wooledge wrote:
>
> > Duh.  Don't be a prick over typos.
>
> Sorry guys, I don't know the beast and don't use it. I just watched a
> presentation about it once.
> I did not cross check how it is exactly spelled. So it was more of an
> ignorance than a typo.
>

Thank you!  I spent, quite some time trying to hunt down a Package called
"Wyland", even getting into a half-filled Rabbit Hole in the Fedora World
(that just vanished).

I am sure there will be others, ignorant about Graphical Packages on Linux.

Kenneth Parker

Re: neomutt on Bullseye not retaining multipart/alternative MIME on forward

[David Wright]

On Wed 06 Jan 2021 at 20:41:50 (-0600), Nate Bargmann wrote:
> Last month I upgraded this desktop from Buster to Bullseye.  It was a
> fresh installation since something went wrong on that particular day
> with 'apt dist-upgrade'.  Oh well.
> 
> Anyway, with the current neoumtt package whenever I forward an email
> that is MIME encoded and has an HTML attachment wrapped in a
> multipart/alternative MIME block, the HTML attachment is dropped.  The
> message I am forwarding is to a local hobbyist mailing list and I was
> notified by one of the list members a few weeks back that he could not
> open the HTML mail as usual and my investigation has revealed the
> problem began with the newest version of neomutt.  My ~/.mutt/muttrc is
> unchanged since March 27, 2020 and this feature had worked without issue
> for years until the upgrade to the neomutt version in Bullseye.
> 
> Here are the […]
[…]
> My scanning of the neomutt documentation hasn't revealed anything.  I
> thought I'd ask here before subscribing to their mailing list.

I'm not a neomutt user. Looking at the changelog, the only hint
I see is:

  2020-11-20  Richard Russon  
  […]
  * Upstream
- Add $count_alternatives to count attachments inside alternatives

Might that have added a regression?

Cheers,
David.

Re: Teamviewer and Wayland on Debian Buster Gnome desktop

[David Wright]

On Thu 07 Jan 2021 at 11:40:37 (-0500), Kenneth Parker wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 7, 2021, 11:20 AM deloptes  wrote:
> > Greg Wooledge wrote:
> >
> > > Duh.  Don't be a prick over typos.
> >
> > Sorry guys, I don't know the beast and don't use it. I just watched a
> > presentation about it once.
> > I did not cross check how it is exactly spelled. So it was more of an
> > ignorance than a typo.
> >
> 
> Thank you!  I spent, quite some time trying to hunt down a Package called
> "Wyland", even getting into a half-filled Rabbit Hole in the Fedora World
> (that just vanished).
> 
> I am sure there will be others, ignorant about Graphical Packages on Linux.

I'm unconvinced with the Noob explanation. My search engine corrects
wyland→wayland itself, whether I prefix the search with teamviewer,
gnome, or x11. Searching for 'buster wyland' suggests 'buster wiand',
but the first hit is still 'Wayland - Debian Wiki', and there are
several wayland hits before any pointing to the artist Wyland.

Cheers,
David.

Re: Teamviewer and Wayland on Debian Buster Gnome desktop

[deloptes]

David Wright wrote:

> I'm unconvinced with the Noob explanation. My search engine corrects
> wyland→wayland itself, whether I prefix the search with teamviewer,
> gnome, or x11. Searching for 'buster wyland' suggests 'buster wiand',
> but the first hit is still 'Wayland - Debian Wiki', and there are
> several wayland hits before any pointing to the artist Wyland.

Kenneth Parker is training the search engine (chuckle). My subjective
observation says you wait for one day and then it works much better. I
would be not surprised if Google were consolidating the results over
night - or it just takes about 24h to finish the processing.

Re: Teamviewer and Wayland on Debian Buster Gnome desktop

[Kenneth Parker]

On Thu, Jan 7, 2021, 12:24 PM deloptes  wrote:

> David Wright wrote:
>
> > I'm unconvinced with the Noob explanation. My search engine corrects
> > wyland→wayland itself, whether I prefix the search with teamviewer,
> > gnome, or x11. Searching for 'buster wyland' suggests 'buster wiand',
> > but the first hit is still 'Wayland - Debian Wiki', and there are
> > several wayland hits before any pointing to the artist Wyland.
>
> Kenneth Parker is training the search engine (chuckle). My subjective
> observation says you wait for one day and then it works much better. I
> would be not surprised if Google were consolidating the results over
> night - or it just takes about 24h to finish the processing.
>

+1

The closest thing to, what David said, is that Google asked me if I meant
"wayland", but it didn't autocorrect.

Thanks!

Kenneth Parker

>

Re: Teamviewer and Wayland on Debian Buster Gnome desktop

[rhkramer]

On Thursday, January 07, 2021 12:16:45 PM David Wright wrote:

> I'm unconvinced with the Noob explanation. My search engine corrects
> wyland→wayland itself, whether I prefix the search with teamviewer,
> gnome, or x11. Searching for 'buster wyland' suggests 'buster wiand',
> but the first hit is still 'Wayland - Debian Wiki', and there are
> several wayland hits before any pointing to the artist Wyland.

What's that meme: "assume good intentions"

Re: Teamviewer and Wyland on Debian Buster Gnome desktop

[Dominik George]

>Excuse me, but I am drawing a Blank, when searching for information on a
>Package called "Wyland".   Are you, by any chance referring to Wayland, the
>alternative to Xorg?

Congratulations.

Not even I am that obsessed with pointing out the mistakes of others.

-nik

Re: Teamviewer and Wayland on Debian Buster Gnome desktop

[David Wright]

On Thu 07 Jan 2021 at 12:59:22 (-0500), Kenneth Parker wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 7, 2021, 12:24 PM deloptes  wrote:
> > David Wright wrote:
> >
> > > I'm unconvinced with the Noob explanation. My search engine corrects
> > > wyland→wayland itself, whether I prefix the search with teamviewer,
> > > gnome, or x11. Searching for 'buster wyland' suggests 'buster wiand',
> > > but the first hit is still 'Wayland - Debian Wiki', and there are
> > > several wayland hits before any pointing to the artist Wyland.
> >
> > Kenneth Parker is training the search engine (chuckle). My subjective
> > observation says you wait for one day and then it works much better. I
> > would be not surprised if Google were consolidating the results over
> > night - or it just takes about 24h to finish the processing.
> 
> +1
> 
> The closest thing to, what David said, is that Google asked me if I meant
> "wayland", but it didn't autocorrect.
> 
> Thanks!

Perhaps this is something that can be set in FF's configuration
(though you might be using a different browser, of course).
I don't recall changing anything, though. Attached shows
autocorrection in action (if it comes through unscathed).

Cheers,
David.

Re: Teamviewer and Wayland on Debian Buster Gnome desktop

[David Wright]

On Thu 07 Jan 2021 at 13:50:31 (-0500), rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Thursday, January 07, 2021 12:16:45 PM David Wright wrote:
> 
> > I'm unconvinced with the Noob explanation. My search engine corrects
> > wyland→wayland itself, whether I prefix the search with teamviewer,
> > gnome, or x11. Searching for 'buster wyland' suggests 'buster wiand',
> > but the first hit is still 'Wayland - Debian Wiki', and there are
> > several wayland hits before any pointing to the artist Wyland.
> 
> What's that meme: "assume good intentions"

How could I assume otherwise about someone who plays Mahler's 3rd
on their computer. :)

But as deloptes said, coincidentally, waiting a day in order to see
whether somebody else has better understood the question is often
worthwhile. If nobody replies, jump in by all means.

Cheers,
David.

question about intel gpu hang

[Muhamad Moghadam]

Hi Everybody,I have a pc with intel gpu and run it on fedora, but intel gpu
will be hang with fedora kernel ( 5.7 or more ). If I install debian,
will my problem be
solved?

have you had problems on debian with intel gpu?

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Re: neomutt on Bullseye not retaining multipart/alternative MIME on forward

[Nate Bargmann]

Well, that looked promising, David.  Thanks for catching that.

It appears that the count_alternatives variable is intended for counting
the attachments a message has and showing that number in the index view.
Its documentation leads to:

https://neomutt.org/guide/mimesupport.html#attachments

which states nothing about forwarding but rather about counting the
number of attachments inside a multipart/alternative MIME block to
display the count.

I suppose next I shall follow up with the neomutt mailing list.

- Nate

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Re: neomutt on Bullseye not retaining multipart/alternative MIME on forward

[Nate Bargmann]

My apologies as I neglected to say that I set the variable to 'yes' and
restarted neomutt and forwarded the latest message and the HTML
attachment was dropped as before with this version.

- Nate

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Re: Intermittent problem with integrated webcam / Thinkpad E130/ Stretch

[deloptes]

Ottavio Caruso wrote:

> Thanks. So, this is the list of all linux-image-amd64:
> https://snapshot.debian.org/binary/linux-image-amd64/
> 
> Which one should I install? Which was the first kernel that came with
> Stretch?

Otavio, come on, does google not work on your PC?
https://wiki.debian.org/DebianStretch says 4.9 and 4.10, but even without
this you can find the images based on the debian version.

4.9+80+deb9u12 (source: linux-latest 80+deb9u12)
4.9+80+deb9u11 (source: linux-latest 80+deb9u11)
4.9+80+deb9u10 (source: linux-latest 80+deb9u10)
4.9+80+deb9u9 (source: linux-latest 80+deb9u9)
4.9+80+deb9u8 (source: linux-latest 80+deb9u8)
4.9+80+deb9u7 (source: linux-latest 80+deb9u7)
4.9+80+deb9u6 (source: linux-latest 80+deb9u6)
4.9+80+deb9u5 (source: linux-latest 80+deb9u5)
4.9+80+deb9u4 (source: linux-latest 80+deb9u4)
4.9+80+deb9u3 (source: linux-latest 80+deb9u3)
4.9+80+deb9u2 (source: linux-latest 80+deb9u2)
4.9+80+deb9u1 (source: linux-latest 80+deb9u1)

Re: question about intel gpu hang

[David Christensen]

On 2021-01-07 13:52, Muhamad Moghadam wrote:

Hi Everybody,I have a pc with intel gpu and run it on fedora, but intel gpu
will be hang with fedora kernel ( 5.7 or more ). If I install debian,
will my problem be
solved?


Perhaps.  It is next to impossible to determine whether or not operating 
system X will work on hardware Y even when the specifications indicates 
it should.  The only way to know for sure is to try it and find out.




have you had problems on debian with intel gpu?


Not in many years.


David

Re: question about intel gpu hang

[Felix Miata]

Muhamad Moghadam composed on 2021-01-07 16:52 (UTC-0500):

> Hi Everybody,I have a pc with intel gpu and run it on fedora, but intel gpu
> will be hang with fedora kernel ( 5.7 or more ). If I install debian,
> will my problem be solved?

Exactly which Intel CPU/IGP? You could be experiencing this long-standing bug in
process of being fixed:
https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/drm/intel/-/issues/2024
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is based on faith, not on science.

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Re: Intermittent problem with integrated webcam / Thinkpad E130/ Stretch

[Andrei POPESCU]

On Jo, 07 ian 21, 23:35:23, Ottavio Caruso wrote:
> 
> Thanks. So, this is the list of all linux-image-amd64:
> https://snapshot.debian.org/binary/linux-image-amd64/
 
You might want to read the description for 'linux-image-amd64' first ;)

> Which one should I install? Which was the first kernel that came with
> Stretch?
 
The exact version that was released with stretch might be difficult to 
find out.

A good approximation would be to search for the first Debian Security 
Advisory (DSA) for linux in stretch, it will mention the next higher 
version.

Kind regards,
Andrei
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