Promoting an upcoming release

[mreilly]

Hello,

I will soon release a new open source project that may be of interest to 
the Debian community.
Can you suggest some place(s) where it would be appropriate for me to 
announce/promote it?


Thank you,
Michael Reilly

Re: Promoting an upcoming release

[Reco]

Hi.

On Thu, Jul 02, 2020 at 02:39:18AM -0400, mrei...@resiliware.com wrote:
> I will soon release a new open source project that may be of interest to the 
> Debian community.
> Can you suggest some place(s) where it would be appropriate for me to 
> announce/promote it?

IMO right here would be a good place to do that.

Reco

inconsistent messages

[Pierre Frenkiel]

hi,

I have:

For the stable distribution (buster), these problems have been fixed in
version 83.0.4103.116-1~deb10u1.

chromium is already installed at the latest version 
(80.0.3987.162-1~deb10u1),

and my sources.list contains:

## buster-updates
deb http://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian/ buster-updates main contrib non-free
# deb-src http://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian/ buster-updates main contrib 
non-free


## buster security
deb http://security.debian.org/ buster/updates main contrib non-free
deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security buster/updates main 
contrib non-free


what is wrong, or missing?

best regards

Pierre Frenkiel

Re: inconsistent messages

[Brad Rogers]

On Thu, 2 Jul 2020 09:34:36 +0200
Pierre Frenkiel  wrote:

Hello Pierre,

>what is wrong, or missing?

Missing backports, maybe?

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Re: how to stop reboot from delete'n directory

[elvis]

On 1/7/20 11:17 pm, gru...@mailfence.com wrote:

On Wed, 1 Jul 2020, Greg Wooledge wrote:


On Wed, Jul 01, 2020 at 02:33:07PM +0200, gru...@mailfence.com wrote:

i create a directory /run/foo to hold sockets for my application
when i reboot the directory gets deleted
is set'n the immutable flag the way to go


unicorn:~$ df /run
Filesystem 1K-blocks  Used Available Use% Mounted on
tmpfs    1219016 48132   1170884   4% /run

See where it says "tmpfs"?  The /run file system is entirely ephemeral,
existing only in memory while the system is running.

If you want to re-create something in /run at boot time, you'll need to
set up a task to do so, either by creating a systemd unit, or perhaps by
using rc.local (since this is a ridiculously small and simple one-shot
task, where a whole systemd unit would be overkill, rc.local is fine).

Or, if you prefer, you could add "create the directory in /run" to
your application's start-up code.



rc.local it is
thanks


A nice explanation

https://askubuntu.com/questions/303120/how-folders-created-in-var-run-on-each-reboot




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Re: Fw: Grub cannot see my new hard drive

[Thomas Schmitt]

Hi,

Matthew Campbell wrote:
> The 4 TB hard drive uses a GPT type partition table, not an MBR type table,
> which is why the computer can't see it. It can't make sense of GPT tables.

Not knowing what's actually causing your problem, i have to doubt this
theory.

If the machine's firmware has no clue of GPT but of MBR partition tables,
then it would accept the "protective" partition of type 0xee in the MBR
partition table which announces the presence of GPT. (That's a legacy
precaution of GPT.)

Further, if the firmware does not know about GPT, it cannot be EFI.
Since Google reports that Toshiba P105-S6187 uses an Intel Core 2 processor,
i would then expect the firmware to be PC-BIOS.
PC-BIOS does not rely on partitions or offer a INT call to interpret a
partition table.

So it's up to the booted software to interpret partition tables and to
represent them as storage devices.
This software is supposed to be GRUB, which should be able to recognize
GPT if module part_gpt ist installed.

So i wonder: Does your GRUB configuration enable part_gpt ?
I read in the web and in Debian ISOs the line

  insmod part_gpt


Have a nice day :)

Thomas

Re: Duplex tumble options missing since CUPS upgrade

[Brian]

On Wed 01 Jul 2020 at 17:14:35 -0700, Kushal Kumaran wrote:

> "Gareth Evans"  writes:
> 
> > Tumble/NoTumble doesn't seem to be available with driverless printing,
> > where [long-edge/short-edge] or [portrait/landscape] options appear
> > under the Duplex dropdown instead.
> >
> 
> I'm not using the Brother drivers for printing.

Two-sided long edge/Two-sided short edge are aliases for NoTumble/Tumble.
The printer make and model has no bearing on the situation.

> >> "Gareth Evans"  writes:
> >> 
> >> > Hello,
> >> >
> >> > The duplex tumble option seems to have disappeared for me when
> >> > printing, I think since a recent CUPS upgrade on Debian 10.4

Changes in the Debian cups packages since August 2019 have been mainly
to fix security issues, so they are unlikely to be involved.

-- 
Brian.

Re: inconsistent messages

[l0f4r0]

Hi,

2 juil. 2020 à 09:34 de p.frenk...@laposte.net:

> For the stable distribution (buster), these problems have been fixed in
> version 83.0.4103.116-1~deb10u1.
>
> chromium is already installed at the latest version (80.0.3987.162-1~deb10u1),
> and my sources.list contains:
>
> ## buster-updates
> deb http://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian/ buster-updates main contrib non-free
> # deb-src http://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian/ buster-updates main contrib 
> non-free
>
> ## buster security
> deb http://security.debian.org/ buster/updates main contrib non-free
> deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security buster/updates main contrib 
> non-free
>
> what is wrong, or missing?
>
Did you do "sudo apt update" first?

I understand:
deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security buster/updates main contrib 
non-free
but what is:
deb http://security.debian.org/ buster/updates main contrib non-free
?
Maybe there is a conflict between each other?
What is your output for:
apt policy chromium
?

It could be a pinning issue as well...

Best regards,
l0f4r0

Re: inconsistent messages

[Reco]

Hi.

On Thu, Jul 02, 2020 at 12:33:45PM +0200, l0f...@tuta.io wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> 2 juil. 2020 à 09:34 de p.frenk...@laposte.net:
> 
> > For the stable distribution (buster), these problems have been fixed in
> > version 83.0.4103.116-1~deb10u1.
> >
> > chromium is already installed at the latest version 
> > (80.0.3987.162-1~deb10u1),
> > and my sources.list contains:
> >
> > what is wrong, or missing?
> >
> Did you do "sudo apt update" first?

It won't help *yet*. Chromium 83 for the stable is current under the
embargo, it will be available tomorrow or a day after that.

Reco

upgrade stretch to buster on armel fails

[grumpy]

i have a device that runs stretch armel
if i change my repos to buster
i do apt clean all, apt update, apt install systemd
when systemd installs it fails to start and i get a series of timeouts
when i reboot i get

Begin: Running /scripts/init-bottom ... Begin: Stopping dropbear ... done.
[   41.330911] systemd[1]: Failed to determine whether /sys is a mount point: 
Bad file descriptor
[   41.339709] systemd[1]: Failed to determine whether /proc is a mount point: 
Bad file descriptor
[   41.348525] systemd[1]: Failed to determine whether /dev is a mount point: 
Bad file descriptor
[!! systemd[1]: Freezing execution.
[0m] Failed to mount early API filesystems.

i have re-imaged my drive and tried several upgrades
they all fail with the above message

Re: inconsistent upgrade messages

[Greg Wooledge]

On Thu, Jul 02, 2020 at 08:38:31AM +0200, Pierre Frenkiel wrote:
> how do you explain that:
> 
> 
> For the stable distribution (buster), these problems have been fixed in
> version 83.0.4103.116-1~deb10u1.

That's the wording used in the Debian Security Announcement emails.

I can find it at .

> chromium is already installed at the latest version
> (80.0.3987.162-1~deb10u1),

That looks like the output from one of the package manager commands.

Is your actual complaint "My security mirror doesn't have the new
package yet"?

For the record, as of this morning, I see this:

unicorn:~$ apt-cache policy chromium
chromium:
  Installed: (none)
  Candidate: 83.0.4103.116-1~deb10u1
  Version table:
 83.0.4103.116-1~deb10u1 500
500 http://security.debian.org/debian-security buster/updates/main 
amd64 Packages
 80.0.3987.162-1~deb10u1 500
500 http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian buster/main amd64 Packages

which would indicate that my security mirror *does* have the new
package.  Maybe you just needed to be a little more patient.

Re: inconsistent messages

[l0f4r0]

Hi,

2 juil. 2020 à 12:37 de recovery...@enotuniq.net:

> It won't help *yet*. Chromium 83 for the stable is current under the
> embargo, it will be available tomorrow or a day after that.
>
It could because, like Greg, I already have it in my repos ;)

apt policy chromium
chromium:
  Installed: (none)
  Candidate: 83.0.4103.116-1~deb10u1
  Version table:
 83.0.4103.116-1~deb10u1 500
    500 http://security.debian.org/debian-security buster/updates/main 
amd64 Packages
 80.0.3987.162-1~deb10u1 500
    500 http://deb.debian.org/debian buster/main amd64 Packages

sudo apt --dry-run install chromium
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree  
Reading state information... Done
The following additional packages will be installed:
  chromium-common chromium-sandbox libre2-5
Suggested packages:
  chromium-l10n chromium-shell chromium-driver
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  chromium chromium-common chromium-sandbox libre2-5
0 upgraded, 4 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Inst libre2-5 (20190101+dfsg-2 Debian:10.4/stable [amd64])
Inst chromium-common (83.0.4103.116-1~deb10u1 Debian-Security:10/stable [amd64])
Inst chromium (83.0.4103.116-1~deb10u1 Debian-Security:10/stable [amd64])
Inst chromium-sandbox (83.0.4103.116-1~deb10u1 Debian-Security:10/stable 
[amd64])
Conf libre2-5 (20190101+dfsg-2 Debian:10.4/stable [amd64])
Conf chromium-common (83.0.4103.116-1~deb10u1 Debian-Security:10/stable [amd64])
Conf chromium (83.0.4103.116-1~deb10u1 Debian-Security:10/stable [amd64])
Conf chromium-sandbox (83.0.4103.116-1~deb10u1 Debian-Security:10/stable 
[amd64])

Best regards,
l0f4r0

Re: inconsistent messages

[Reco]

On Thu, Jul 02, 2020 at 01:55:42PM +0200, l0f...@tuta.io wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> 2 juil. 2020 à 12:37 de recovery...@enotuniq.net:
> 
> > It won't help *yet*. Chromium 83 for the stable is current under the
> > embargo, it will be available tomorrow or a day after that.
> >
> It could because, like Greg, I already have it in my repos ;)

Must be a local mirror issue on my side then.

Reco

Re: Fw: Fw: Grub cannot see my new hard drive

[David Christensen]

debian-user:

This message was only sent to the OP by mistake.


David



On 2020-06-14 18:16, Matthew Campbell wrote:

I'm kind of stuck using the ProtonMail app on my tablet.


The message you replied to was properly indented.  Other than 
top-posting and the "name=Mathew..." field, your message looks pretty 
good.  :-)



I would like to be able to disconnect the internal hard drive in the laptop. 


I am superstitious about old HDD's that are installed an operating -- I 
would not touch it.



I'll need to turn off the laptop before moving it so I can look for that model number. I hope to get to that soon. I can't do that at the moment. 


Okay.



My ISP forbids me to run my own email server at home.


You don't want to run an e-mail server at home.


It looks like ProtonMail requires that you install "ProtonMail Bridge" 
to use traditional e-mail clients (such as Thunderbird) with their services:


https://protonmail.com/support/knowledge-base/third-party-email-client-integration-outlook-thunderbird-apple-mail-ect/

https://protonmail.com/bridge/


On 2020-06-14 18:20, Matthew Campbell wrote:

The internal hard drive was visible to Grub, as was the other external
USB hard drive, a Western Digital drive. Having an external hard drive
connected with USB is not the problem. Grub was on /dev/sda and used
to boot the Western Digital drive just fine, until Grub was
reconfigured to boot the Toshiba hard drive instead.


I think you are making things too complicated.  KISS, disconnect the 
external drives, erase the internal drive, and install Debian.  That is 
the first step.



Then, install Thunderbird, install ProtonMail Bridge, and get them working.


On 2020-06-14 18:21, Matthew Campbell wrote:

Man, that text really got screwed up.


Yes.


David

Re: Fw: Grub cannot see my new hard drive

[David Christensen]

On 2020-07-02 01:12, Matthew Campbell wrote:

The 4 TB hard drive uses a GPT type partition table, not an MBR type table, 
which is why the computer can't see it. It can't make sense of GPT tables. It 
is a Toshiba Satellite laptop. Satellite P105-S6187, model number 
PSPAAU-01L00S. I just ordered new memory for it yesterday. At the moment one 
memory card is sitting on top of it with the cover removed. I'll be putting it 
back together in a moment. It was factory preloaded with Windows Vistsa.


I still think the best answer is to disconnect the external drives, use 
the Debian Installer rescue shell to zero-fill the internal drive, and 
install Debian on the internal drive.



David

Package management

[Baabu JOY]

Hello debain organization
I'm babu.
Im trying to install all Deb files through single name

Apt-get install multimedia
Multimedia need have all multimedia related packages ex : gstremer
,alsa,ffmpeg,vlc etc..



Please guide me how to do


Thanks and warm regards
Babu

Re: Package management

[Greg Wooledge]

On Fri, Jul 03, 2020 at 01:07:42AM +0530, Baabu JOY wrote:
> Hello debain organization
> I'm babu.
> Im trying to install all Deb files through single name
> 
> Apt-get install multimedia
> Multimedia need have all multimedia related packages ex : gstremer
> ,alsa,ffmpeg,vlc etc..

You could use tasksel instead.

Re: Fw: Grub cannot see my new hard drive

[David Wright]

On Thu 02 Jul 2020 at 08:12:00 (+), Matthew Campbell wrote:
> On Jul 1, 2020, 7:50 PM, David Wright wrote:
> > On Wed 17 Jun 2020 at 05:14:22 (+), Matthew Campbell wrote:
> >> […]
> >> I booted from a USB 2.0 flash drive into Grub2.
> >> […]
> >> /dev/sdb is the new 4 TB Toshiba External USB 3.0 hard drive.
> >> […]
> >> The hard drive, /dev/sdb, always responds faster than the USB flash drives 
> >> so it is always /dev/sdb.
> >>
> >> Now Debian Linux is running on my new hard drive using /dev/sdb1 as the 
> >> root partition.
[…]
> The 4 TB hard drive uses a GPT type partition table, not an MBR type table, 
> which is why the computer can't see it. It can't make sense of GPT tables.

If your computer can't make sense of GPT tables, how are you able to
run Debian Linux from its first partition?

I think what you might be trying to say is that you haven't managed to
boot from a GPT disk connected by USB. But if you can boot with Grub
from an MBR stick, that suggests that something is missing on your
GPT disk.

Have you tried to install Grub on your 4TB disk? What did it say?
Were there any error messages.

How is this disk partitioned? Did you do it, or is it just as it
was bought? I'll give you an example of how I have system disks
partitioned. You don't necessarily have to follow it, but it might
help you to deal with yours.

--✄

# fdisk /dev/sda

Welcome to fdisk (util-linux 2.33.1).
Changes will remain in memory only, until you decide to write them.
Be careful before using the write command.

Command (m for help): p
Disk /dev/sda: 465.8 GiB, 500107862016 bytes, 976773168 sectors
Disk model: ST3500641A  
Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disklabel type: gpt
Disk identifier: A519207D-4D17-4727-A35D-55B72A0CB95B

Device Start   End   Sectors   Size Type
/dev/sda1   2048  8191  6144 3M BIOS boot
/dev/sda2   8192   1023999   1015808   496M EFI System
/dev/sda31024000   2047999   1024000   500M Linux swap
/dev/sda42048000  63487999  6144  29.3G Linux filesystem
/dev/sda5   63488000 124927999  6144  29.3G Linux filesystem
/dev/sda6  124928000 976773119 851845120 406.2G Linux filesystem

Command (m for help): M
Entering protective/hybrid MBR disklabel.

Command (m for help): p
Disk /dev/sda: 465.8 GiB, 500107862016 bytes, 976773168 sectors
Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disklabel type: dos
Disk identifier: 0x

Device Boot Start   End   Sectors   Size Id Type
/dev/sda1   1 976773167 976773167 465.8G ee GPT

Command (m for help): q

# 

--✄

This drive is inside a 2000-built PC. (It can't boot from any sort of
USB device.) The second partition table shows the protective MBR,
which contains the Grub code for the PC to boot from.

The first partition table is the GPT one. Partitions 4 and 5 are
for root filesystems, one for stretch and one for buster. When
bullseye is released, I'll most likely overwrite the stretch one.
Partition 3 is for swap, and 6 is for /home. Both these are encrypted
in different ways.

That leaves the more interesting ones. Partition 2 is to enable the
drive to be used to boot an EFI system, and is obviously unused by
this PC. (I could "borrow" it for more swap, but the PC only has
500MB memory, so probably pointless for the tasks it does.)

Partition 1 is where Grub puts the Second Stage code that it requires
to read the disk partition table and filesystems, so that it can find
grub.cfg, the kernel and initrd. On a "real" MBR disk, there is
typically plenty of room between the partition table and the first
partition for this code, but on a GPT disk, that space is where
the partition table itself resides; so Grub has to find somewhere
else. That's what partition 1 is for.

My *guess* is that your Grub is booting ok, but has no (or little)
Second Stage code to determine anything about the drives beyond
their existence, so you just get the Grub prompt.

Note that it's not important where Grub puts its code, only that
there is some space somewhere. On this laptop, my BIOS Boot
partition is sda9, because BIOS booting was late to the party
on what was bought as a Windows/EFI/GPT machine.

Cheers,
David.

Re: Package management

[Greg Wooledge]

On Thu, Jul 02, 2020 at 09:06:26PM +0100, Brian wrote:
> On Thu 02 Jul 2020 at 15:50:30 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> 
> > On Fri, Jul 03, 2020 at 01:07:42AM +0530, Baabu JOY wrote:
> > > Hello debain organization
> > > I'm babu.
> > > Im trying to install all Deb files through single name
> > > 
> > > Apt-get install multimedia
> > > Multimedia need have all multimedia related packages ex : gstremer
> > > ,alsa,ffmpeg,vlc etc..
> > 
> > You could use tasksel instead.
> 
> Is 'Apt-get install multimedia' a valid command?

Obviously they're asking for the name of a package which can be
substituted for the word "multimedia" in that command to achieve
their desired effect.  (And the capital A is wrong, but we all know
that, and it's bad form to harp on it.)

The closest thing to what they're asking for would be to run tasksel
and select one of the tasks from it, or to figure out the task-*
metapackage name that closely resembles what tasksel would do for each
given task, and then install that package.

Using tasksel seems like the better answer in this case, because this is
clearly not an experienced Debian user.

If they gave signs that they had any clue what they're doing, then it
might be appropriate to give a more sophisticated answer, like
"use equivs to generate a local package that Depends: on all of the
things you want, and then install that on each of your target machines".

But they didn't, so "tasksel".

Re: Package management

[Brian]

On Thu 02 Jul 2020 at 15:50:30 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:

> On Fri, Jul 03, 2020 at 01:07:42AM +0530, Baabu JOY wrote:
> > Hello debain organization
> > I'm babu.
> > Im trying to install all Deb files through single name
> > 
> > Apt-get install multimedia
> > Multimedia need have all multimedia related packages ex : gstremer
> > ,alsa,ffmpeg,vlc etc..
> 
> You could use tasksel instead.

Is 'Apt-get install multimedia' a valid command?

-- 
Brian

Re: Package management

[Darac Marjal]

On 02/07/2020 20:37, Baabu JOY wrote:
> Hello debain organization
>                         I'm babu.
> Im trying to install all Deb files through single name 
>
> Apt-get install multimedia
> Multimedia need have all multimedia related packages ex : gstremer
> ,alsa,ffmpeg,vlc etc..
>
>
>
> Please guide me how to do


The package "equivs" can assist you in making a package which only
consists of dependencies.

In other words, you can make a package called "multimedia.deb". This
package only exists on your computer. When you create "multimedia.deb",
you define that it must also install gstreamer, alsa, ffmpeg, vlc , etc.
When you install "multimedia.deb", those packages you listed are also
installed.


>
>
> Thanks and warm regards 
> Babu
>
>



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Re: Promoting an upcoming release

[mreilly]

Sounds good!

On 2020-07-02 03:48, Reco wrote:

Hi.

On Thu, Jul 02, 2020 at 02:39:18AM -0400, mrei...@resiliware.com wrote:
I will soon release a new open source project that may be of interest 
to the Debian community.
Can you suggest some place(s) where it would be appropriate for me to 
announce/promote it?


IMO right here would be a good place to do that.

Reco

Re: Package management

[Brian]

On Thu 02 Jul 2020 at 16:11:49 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:

> On Thu, Jul 02, 2020 at 09:06:26PM +0100, Brian wrote:
> > On Thu 02 Jul 2020 at 15:50:30 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> > 
> > > On Fri, Jul 03, 2020 at 01:07:42AM +0530, Baabu JOY wrote:
> > > > Hello debain organization
> > > > I'm babu.
> > > > Im trying to install all Deb files through single name
> > > > 
> > > > Apt-get install multimedia
> > > > Multimedia need have all multimedia related packages ex : gstremer
> > > > ,alsa,ffmpeg,vlc etc..
> > > 
> > > You could use tasksel instead.
> > 
> > Is 'Apt-get install multimedia' a valid command?
> 
> Obviously they're asking for the name of a package which can be
> substituted for the word "multimedia" in that command to achieve
> their desired effect.  (And the capital A is wrong, but we all know
> that, and it's bad form to harp on it.)

But, for want of a better response, you could not resist commenting on
the typo. As you say - bad form. :)

> The closest thing to what they're asking for would be to run tasksel
> and select one of the tasks from it, or to figure out the task-*
> metapackage name that closely resembles what tasksel would do for each
> given task, and then install that package.

You haven't any suggestion to feed to tasksel?

-- 
Brian.