Re: getting crystalsvg icon set in response to okular warnings

2019-11-20 Thread Curt
On 2019-11-19, elvis  wrote:
>>
>> So probably at this point i need to use a different pdf reader.
>
>
> Think of all the warnings that come up in the /var/log files, you might 
> need a whole new operating system!
>

Don't get him started!

Of course, as the USA has become the warning capital of the world (to
obviate any and all eventual litigation), if he's anywhere in the 50,
he must suffer many a sleepless night, a cautionary tale, if ever there
was one.

:-)

-- 
“The cradle rocks above an abyss, and common sense tells us that our existence
is but a brief crack of light between two eternities of darkness.” 
"Speak, Memory," Vladimir Nabokov



Re: alternatives to gmail?

2019-11-20 Thread 황병희
> [...] it could be of interest to you to take a look at text mail clients, 
> like mutt ou sup.

Also Gnus is not bad, i think...;;;

Sincerely,

-- 
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Re: Orphaned Inode Problem

2019-11-20 Thread Stephen P. Molnar
I don't know what the significance might be, but I have installed Buster 
in an Oracle VM along with the software that hangs, and it works.


On 11/19/2019 02:39 PM, Reco wrote:

Hi.

On Tue, Nov 19, 2019 at 02:31:59PM -0500, Stephen P. Molnar wrote:

On Mon, Nov 18, 2019 at 02:06:48PM -0500, Stephen P. Molnar wrote:

he problem is that the program hangs and the system will not
recognized the keyboard, although, according to gKrellM the system is
still operating. The only solution seems to be to reboot the system.

The contents of /var/log/messages at the time of the hang will
definitely help to pinpoint the issue.

And maybe the xorg.log, but it's non-trivial to extract something useful
from it - you have to wait for the hang, reboot, and locate
Xorg.0.log.old file.

I've attached the dmesg file.  The platfrom was locked up and i had to reboot 
the system to get the file.

I wrote "/var/log/messages", not "dmesg" for a reason.
And that reason is - dmesg shows current kernel messages (i.e. - after
the reboot), and they are useless for determining the cause of the hang.

/var/log/messages can be large, but I do not ask all of it. A part
that precedes the hang is all that needed.


For the archives, the last line in dmesg output is:


[   23.210107] IPv6: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): docker0: link is not ready

And the dmesg itself shows more-or-less normal boot process and uptime
of 23 seconds.

Reco




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Re: USB WIFI Adapters?

2019-11-20 Thread Henning Follmann
On Tue, Nov 19, 2019 at 08:50:33PM -0500, Optimus Primus wrote:
> Could you send me a list or a link to a list of compatible USB WIFI
> Adapters?
> 
> Thank You!
> Brian...


Let me google that for you:
https://wiki.debian.org/WiFi section "Availability of compatible WiFi chipsets"
might be an excellent source of information.


-H

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Re: USB WIFI Adapters?

2019-11-20 Thread Thomas Pircher
Henning Follmann wrote:
> https://wiki.debian.org/WiFi section "Availability of compatible WiFi 
> chipsets"

Also useful for the current kernel version:
https://wireless.wiki.kernel.org/en/users/drivers

I have recently looked into 802.11ac USB wireless devices under Linux
and the situation is not very rosy. I went with a PCIe module instead.

Thomas



Re: Booting Debian 10 installer ISO from USB

2019-11-20 Thread prueba

On 2019-11-19 13:58, Brian  wrote:

On Tue 19 Nov 2019 at 10:20:16 -0600, pru...@finsakxim.com.mx wrote:

I'm trying to boot Buster installer from a USB by using Grub's 
loopback

device.
I already installed grub in the USB and put Buster ISO in its 
data

partition.

I read this

https://wiki.debian.org/Installation+Archive+USBStick#Using_GRUB.27s_Loopback_Facility

so I downloaded both hd-media kernel and initrd from here

http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/stable/main/installer-amd64/current/images/hd-media/
and put them in same directory as ISO, renaming them as 
"DebianVmlinuz" and

"debianGtkInitrd" respectively.

This is my grub.cfg config:

iso_path=/boot/iso/debian-10.1.0-amd64-xfce-CD-1.iso
export iso_path
search --set=root --file "$iso_path"
loopback loop "$iso_path"
menuentry "Graphical install" {
   bootoptions="findiso=$iso_path desktop=xfce vga=788 --- 
quiet"

   linux /boot/iso/DebianVmlinuz $bootoptions
   initrd /boot/iso/debianGtkInitrd.gz
}

So booting from the USB works; the installer starts. But after 
selecting
languages it searches for the installer ISO, but always fails to 
find it. I
get "Debian was unable to find an ISO installer image". Even if 
I tell it to
browse the specific partition where ISO is it just fails with 
same error.



The wiki page also warns:

  > There is no guarantee that mixing an hd-media initrd with
  > an ISO's kernel will produce a desirable outcome in all
  > circumstances.

In other words, if the hack works for you - all well and good. If 
not,

you get to piece it together yourself.

Why is a loopback boot so important to you?


If you re-read my post you realize that I first tried the "rightful" way 
of using both kernel and initrd from hd-media, and didn't work.


Important because that would make it easier to make a multiboot USB with 
several Linux distributions by just copying ISO files instead of dd-ing 
multiple USBs or using 3rd party programs which modify the ISOs.


Sorry, I really didn't know Debian community actually disliked this 
general idea (by little to no supporting and turning blind eye). Though 
I fail to see a good reason for it...




recurse does not work?

2019-11-20 Thread Bonno Bloksma
Hi,

I have a directory with some sub directories and all of those have one or more 
shells scripts.
This script need the execute bit set so I thought a simple chmod -R -v +x 
ping/*.sh would do it, NOT :-(
Why not? ls does not seem to recurce either so it must be something general I 
am missing
First a ls of the ping directory that DOES recurse.
--
beheerdertio@einpingme:~$ ls ping -R
ping:
amssan  amsstaf  amswan  einstud  getloss-all.sh  getloss.sh  hglsan  hglstaf  
hglwan  rtmsan  rtmstaf  rtmwan  showloss-today.sh  showtime-today.sh  utrcity  
utrjcw  utrsan  utrstaf  utrwan

ping/amssan:
pinglog.sh

ping/amsstaf:
pinglog.sh

ping/amswan:
pinglog.sh

ping/einstud:
pinglog.sh

ping/hglsan:
pinglog.sh

ping/hglstaf:
pinglog.sh

ping/hglwan:
pinglog.sh

ping/rtmsan:
pinglog.sh

ping/rtmstaf:
pinglog.sh

ping/rtmwan:
pinglog.sh

ping/utrcity:
pinglog.sh

ping/utrjcw:
pinglog.sh

ping/utrsan:
pinglog.sh

ping/utrstaf:
pinglog.sh

ping/utrwan:
pinglog.sh
--

So now  want only the *.sh (shell script)  files 

beheerdertio@einpingme:~$ ls -R ping/*.sh
ping/getloss-all.sh  ping/getloss.sh  ping/showloss-today.sh  
ping/showtime-today.sh

beheerdertio@einpingme:~$ chmod -R -v +x ping/*.sh
mode of 'ping/getloss-all.sh' retained as 0755 (rwxr-xr-x)
mode of 'ping/getloss.sh' retained as 0755 (rwxr-xr-x)
mode of 'ping/showloss-today.sh' retained as 0755 (rwxr-xr-x)
mode of 'ping/showtime-today.sh' retained as 0755 (rwxr-xr-x)
--

But neither recurses into the directories.
Maybe because none of the directories has a *.sh name, how illogical that 
sounds, that would make the -R option pretty useless I think.
But if that is the case then how do I change all the *.sh files in those 
directories to an executable, other than doing it one by one.

Bonno Bloksma



Re: recurse does not work?

2019-11-20 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Nov 20, 2019 at 02:06:07PM +, Bonno Bloksma wrote:
> So now  want only the *.sh (shell script)  files 
> 
> beheerdertio@einpingme:~$ ls -R ping/*.sh
> ping/getloss-all.sh  ping/getloss.sh  ping/showloss-today.sh  
> ping/showtime-today.sh

> But neither recurses into the directories.
> Maybe because none of the directories has a *.sh name, how illogical that 
> sounds, that would make the -R option pretty useless I think.
> But if that is the case then how do I change all the *.sh files in those 
> directories to an executable, other than doing it one by one.

There are a couple ways.

The first one would be to turn on the "globstar" option in bash, and
then use a recursive glob.

shopt -s globstar
chmod whatever ping/**/*.sh

The second way, which is the traditional way, would be to use find(1) to
perform the recursive search, and act on the files that it finds.

find ping -type f -name '*.sh' -exec chmod whatever {} +



Re: USB WIFI Adapters?

2019-11-20 Thread Cindy Sue Causey
On 11/20/19, Henning Follmann  wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 19, 2019 at 08:50:33PM -0500, Optimus Primus wrote:
>> Could you send me a list or a link to a list of compatible USB WIFI
>> Adapters?
>
> Let me google that for you:
> https://wiki.debian.org/WiFi section "Availability of compatible WiFi
> chipsets"
> might be an excellent source of information.


Nice.. With several related threads having occurred in recent months,
maybe fellow Users have further supportive (or even refutative)
feedback for that page *if* they got their equipment to work.

So far, mine? Not so much. Will be giving it another shot in a couple
days. Just waiting on a delivery.

In the meantime, I'll be rereading that proffered wiki page a few more
times to better (cognitively) grasp its rather discouraging message.
Sounds like it wouldn't hurt for that page to be released out into a
wider audience for consumer-friendly advocacy purposes.

It's that part about things becoming LESS free instead of
traditionally more free as time goes on. That's garbage that makes it
feel like consumers are being deliberately strangled. It feels like
it's a new millennium twist on those old high school classroom chats
about product prices versus supply and demand.

This less free compatibility take is occurring just as more and more
technology *appears* to go wireless out of convenience k/t e.g. easier
portability instead of the alternative of carrying a wad of hardwires
AND THEN finding the limited number of available physical
communication connection [ports] when traveling. Companies know
they've got consumers by the [chipsets] right now..

PS Devil's Advocate after already rereading some of that wiki page
again: I suppose... some of that increasing non-free issue is about
advances in new technology. That makes it just business as usual in
the same way that ever-evolving CPUs, etc, also challenge operating
system Developers.

In THAT case, it's now reminding me of how there are websites that
have been developed in such a way that consumers can only fully
participate...

If one pours hoards of dollars into a smart phone. As the old saying
goes... Well, isn't THAT convenient for all of the phone providers
incidentally receiving that phenomenal monetary boost as a result.

Cindy *Chevy Chase'ing off her soapbox now* :)
-- 
Cindy-Sue Causey
Talking Rock, Pickens County, Georgia, USA

* runs with birdseed *



Re: Orphaned Inode Problem

2019-11-20 Thread Reco
Hi.

On Wed, Nov 20, 2019 at 09:19:30AM -0500, Stephen P. Molnar wrote:
> I don't know what the significance might be, but I have installed
> Buster in an Oracle VM along with the software that hangs, and it
> works.

Countless things could be significant here. If you remove a real
hardware from the equation, then you remove whole classes of problems.

Reco 



Re: recurse does not work?

2019-11-20 Thread tomas
On Wed, Nov 20, 2019 at 02:06:07PM +, Bonno Bloksma wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I have a directory with some sub directories and all of those have one or 
> more shells scripts.
> This script need the execute bit set so I thought a simple chmod -R -v +x 
> ping/*.sh would do it, NOT :-(

^

I think the problem is there.

The shell expands "ping/*.sh", so chmod only "sees" the files
matching that pattern (i.e. some *.sh directly beneath ping)
gets hit.

Now the -R of chmod doesn't support patterns -- so that wouldn't
be a viable option either.

I'd recommend using the more flexible find, like so:

  find ping -type f -name "*.sh" -exec chmod -v +x {} +

or somesuch.

Cheers
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Re: USB WIFI Adapters?

2019-11-20 Thread Russell L. Harris

On Tue, Nov 19, 2019 at 08:50:33PM -0500, Optimus Primus wrote:

Could you send me a list or a link to a list of compatible USB WIFI
Adapters?


I have no experience with AC, but for N and below the Asus USB-56 has
"just worked" flawlessly with several generations (7, 8, 9) of Debian;
also the Asus RT-N66U.



Re: recurse does not work?

2019-11-20 Thread Reco
Hi.

On Wed, Nov 20, 2019 at 05:03:36PM +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 20, 2019 at 02:06:07PM +, Bonno Bloksma wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I have a directory with some sub directories and all of those have one or 
> > more shells scripts.
> > This script need the execute bit set so I thought a simple chmod -R -v +x 
> > ping/*.sh would do it, NOT :-(
> 
> ^
> 
> I think the problem is there.
> 
> The shell expands "ping/*.sh", so chmod only "sees" the files
> matching that pattern (i.e. some *.sh directly beneath ping)
> gets hit.
> 
> Now the -R of chmod doesn't support patterns -- so that wouldn't
> be a viable option either.
> 
> I'd recommend using the more flexible find, like so:
> 
>   find ping -type f -name "*.sh" -exec chmod -v +x {} +

find ping -type f -name '*.sh' -print0 | xargs -0 chmod +x

Because you never know if there's that pesky space inside the filename.

Reco



Re: recurse does not work?

2019-11-20 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Nov 20, 2019 at 07:55:33PM +0300, Reco wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 20, 2019 at 05:03:36PM +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> > I'd recommend using the more flexible find, like so:
> > 
> >   find ping -type f -name "*.sh" -exec chmod -v +x {} +
> 
> find ping -type f -name '*.sh' -print0 | xargs -0 chmod +x

Both are safe for all files, regardless of special characters in their
names.  The -exec + version is modestly more efficient.



Re: recurse does not work?

2019-11-20 Thread tomas
On Wed, Nov 20, 2019 at 11:58:16AM -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 20, 2019 at 07:55:33PM +0300, Reco wrote:
> > On Wed, Nov 20, 2019 at 05:03:36PM +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> > > I'd recommend using the more flexible find, like so:
> > > 
> > >   find ping -type f -name "*.sh" -exec chmod -v +x {} +
> > 
> > find ping -type f -name '*.sh' -print0 | xargs -0 chmod +x
> 
> Both are safe for all files, regardless of special characters in their
> names.  The -exec + version is modestly more efficient.

Exactly. If you are piping find's result, as reco suggests, (and
sometimes that makes sense, too) the print0 is recommended. If
you're doing -exec directly, -print0 doesn't make any difference
(nothing is being printed, after all ;-)

Cheers
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Re: Booting Debian 10 installer ISO from USB

2019-11-20 Thread Cindy Sue Causey
On 11/20/19, pru...@finsakxim.com.mx  wrote:
> On 2019-11-19 13:58, Brian  wrote:
>  On Tue 19 Nov 2019 at 10:20:16 -0600, pru...@finsakxim.com.mx wrote:
>
>>>  I'm trying to boot Buster installer from a USB by using Grub's
>>> loopback
>>>  device.
>>>  I already installed grub in the USB and put Buster ISO in its
>>> data partition.
>>>
>>>  I read this
>>>
>>> https://wiki.debian.org/Installation+Archive+USBStick#Using_GRUB.27s_Loopback_Facility
>>>  so I downloaded both hd-media kernel and initrd from here
>>>
>>>
>>  The wiki page also warns:
>>
>>> There is no guarantee that mixing an hd-media initrd with
>>> an ISO's kernel will produce a desirable outcome in all
>>> circumstances.
>>
>>  In other words, if the hack works for you - all well and good. If
>> not,
>>  you get to piece it together yourself.
>>
>>  Why is a loopback boot so important to you?
>
>
> If you re-read my post you realize that I first tried the "rightful" way
> of using both kernel and initrd from hd-media, and didn't work.
>
> Important because that would make it easier to make a multiboot USB with
> several Linux distributions by just copying ISO files instead of dd-ing
> multiple USBs or using 3rd party programs which modify the ISOs.
>
> Sorry, I really didn't know Debian community actually disliked this
> general idea (by little to no supporting and turning blind eye). Though
> I fail to see a good reason for it...


Free operating systems, their methodologies, and their supportive
documentation evolve based on the majority... based on the relevant
community's collective usage case needs over time.

Just because something doesn't appear to exist doesn't mean VOLUNTEER
Developers don't give a dang. It instead means that users needing a
more specifically individualized setup simply had not yet noticed that
missing [perk] and thus...

Had not yet stepped up to VOLUNTEER to develop the potentially
required software package, methodology, and/or any supportive
documentation necessary.

If this is something that already exists in another free operating
system, hey, cool beans, not to mention... well, there you go: A
ready-to-go foundation for a new package with morally responsible, if
not also likely requisite, head nods given to the original creators,
of course.

OF course.. :)

With respect to "disliking" something involving various operating
systems, there's almost a tone that might imply the community might
feel something like... oh, I don't know... being "threatened", maybe,
by the presence of other operating systems. Based on observing
Debian-User posts for some ten years or so now, nope, not here.

Here at Debian-User, there's occasional chatter about multiple
operating systems coexisting via virtual machines, multiple
interactive hard drive partitions, and such. Beyond those options
presenting scenarios for learning how to make ALL things Linux sing,
it can also be about the more primordial desire for, attraction to

Variety, the spice of #Life, yada-yada. :)

Cindy :)
-- 
Cindy-Sue Causey
Talking Rock, Pickens County, Georgia, USA

* runs with... a healthy, helpfully diverse stack of OS CDs and DVDs *



Re: Orphaned Inode Problem

2019-11-20 Thread Stephen P. Molnar

Well, as I said, I didn't know if it meant anything.

On 11/20/2019 11:01 AM, Reco wrote:

Hi.

On Wed, Nov 20, 2019 at 09:19:30AM -0500, Stephen P. Molnar wrote:

I don't know what the significance might be, but I have installed
Buster in an Oracle VM along with the software that hangs, and it
works.

Countless things could be significant here. If you remove a real
hardware from the equation, then you remove whole classes of problems.

Reco




--
Stephen P. Molnar, Ph.D.
www.molecular-modeling.net
614.312.7528 (c)
Skype:  smolnar1



Re: Booting Debian 10 installer ISO from USB

2019-11-20 Thread prueba

El 2019-11-20 11:20, Cindy Sue Causey escribió:

On 11/20/19, pru...@finsakxim.com.mx  wrote:

On 2019-11-19 13:58, Brian  wrote:
 On Tue 19 Nov 2019 at 10:20:16 -0600, pru...@finsakxim.com.mx 
wrote:


 I'm trying to boot Buster installer from a USB by using 
Grub's

loopback
 device.
 I already installed grub in the USB and put Buster ISO in 
its

data partition.

 I read this

https://wiki.debian.org/Installation+Archive+USBStick#Using_GRUB.27s_Loopback_Facility
 so I downloaded both hd-media kernel and initrd from here



 The wiki page also warns:

   > There is no guarantee that mixing an hd-media initrd with
   > an ISO's kernel will produce a desirable outcome in all
   > circumstances.

 In other words, if the hack works for you - all well and good. 
If

not,
 you get to piece it together yourself.

 Why is a loopback boot so important to you?



If you re-read my post you realize that I first tried the "rightful" 
way

of using both kernel and initrd from hd-media, and didn't work.

Important because that would make it easier to make a multiboot USB 
with
several Linux distributions by just copying ISO files instead of 
dd-ing

multiple USBs or using 3rd party programs which modify the ISOs.

Sorry, I really didn't know Debian community actually disliked this
general idea (by little to no supporting and turning blind eye). 
Though

I fail to see a good reason for it...



Free operating systems, their methodologies, and their supportive
documentation evolve based on the majority... based on the relevant
community's collective usage case needs over time.

Just because something doesn't appear to exist doesn't mean VOLUNTEER
Developers don't give a dang. It instead means that users needing a
more specifically individualized setup simply had not yet noticed that
missing [perk] and thus...

Had not yet stepped up to VOLUNTEER to develop the potentially
required software package, methodology, and/or any supportive
documentation necessary.

If this is something that already exists in another free operating
system, hey, cool beans, not to mention... well, there you go: A
ready-to-go foundation for a new package with morally responsible, if
not also likely requisite, head nods given to the original creators,
of course.

OF course.. :)

With respect to "disliking" something involving various operating
systems, there's almost a tone that might imply the community might
feel something like... oh, I don't know... being "threatened", maybe,
by the presence of other operating systems. Based on observing
Debian-User posts for some ten years or so now, nope, not here.

Here at Debian-User, there's occasional chatter about multiple
operating systems coexisting via virtual machines, multiple
interactive hard drive partitions, and such. Beyond those options
presenting scenarios for learning how to make ALL things Linux sing,
it can also be about the more primordial desire for, attraction to

Variety, the spice of #Life, yada-yada. :)

Cindy :)



So in the end no one being able to help booting Debian 10 with grub 
loopback?

My grub.cfg and symptoms are back in first post of this thread.
Cannot understand why Debian kernel/initrd are unable to find the ISO, 
even with hd-media...




Re: Booting Debian 10 installer ISO from USB

2019-11-20 Thread Brian
On Wed 20 Nov 2019 at 11:42:34 -0600, pru...@finsakxim.com.mx wrote:

> So in the end no one being able to help booting Debian 10 with grub
> loopback?

Using GRUB loopback isn't supported by the installer. The installer
images have initrds which do not contain iso-scan.

> My grub.cfg and symptoms are back in first post of this thread.
> Cannot understand why Debian kernel/initrd are unable to find the ISO, even
> with hd-media...

The hd-media have no trouble finding debian-10.2.0-i386-netinst.iso
for me. The wiki contains the advice:

 > ... Ensure the image, vmlinuz and initrd.gz are the most
 > up-to-date possible.

-- 
Brian.



Re: Booting Debian 10 installer ISO from USB

2019-11-20 Thread prueba

El 2019-11-20 12:48, Brian escribió:

On Wed 20 Nov 2019 at 11:42:34 -0600, pru...@finsakxim.com.mx wrote:


So in the end no one being able to help booting Debian 10 with grub
loopback?


Using GRUB loopback isn't supported by the installer. The installer
images have initrds which do not contain iso-scan.


My grub.cfg and symptoms are back in first post of this thread.
Cannot understand why Debian kernel/initrd are unable to find the ISO, 
even

with hd-media...


The hd-media have no trouble finding debian-10.2.0-i386-netinst.iso
for me. The wiki contains the advice:

 > ... Ensure the image, vmlinuz and initrd.gz are the most
 > up-to-date possible.



I already know and understand that CD installer's initrd doesn't have 
iso-scan.
Which is why, as put in first post of this thread, I tried using 
hd-media vmlinuz and initrd, though with same CD installer ISO rather 
than the netinst.


Last thing I read about the netinst is, just like live CD, they didn't 
suffer from the lack of iso-scan, so they could be used for grub 
loopback out of the box. Which is why I didn't try netinst yet. Correct 
me if wrong.


I got both hd-media vmlinuz and initrd just this week, from the link in 
first post, from the current "stable" tree. So they should be indeed 
updated.


I already know one way around for installation would be booting Live CD 
and installing from within it. But feels slightly "unorthodox", and it's 
not the same as directly using the installer. Specially because I often 
use the "expert" install option.
Also I often do offline installations (internet connection is not 
available beforehand), so netinst would not be useful for those cases.


So, if someone could help with this CD installer and hd-media issue, I'd 
be very thankful.
Or if the fact was that Buster installer no longer supports loopback at 
all even with hd-media, just confirm it.


Thanks.



Re: Booting Debian 10 installer ISO from USB

2019-11-20 Thread didier . gaumet
Le mercredi 20 novembre 2019 18:50:04 UTC+1, pru...@finsakxim.com.mx a écrit :

> So in the end no one being able to help booting Debian 10 with grub 
> loopback?
> My grub.cfg and symptoms are back in first post of this thread.
> Cannot understand why Debian kernel/initrd are unable to find the ISO, 
> even with hd-media...

I am not familiar with the Grub syntax so maybe I am wrong, but I think you 
should follow the syntax exposed in the wiki more closely:
- your pre-declaratives (iso_path, search, loopback) could be better placed 
between the menuentry brackets, because these items are entry specific and this 
could be a problem with several entries (from what I gather your goal is to 
have one USB key as a tool to install several OSes?)?
- you seem to boot the hd-media kernel with the hd-media initrd while the trick 
in the wiki seems to boot the iso image kernel with the hd-media initrd 

I have never tested this kind of things so perhaps my observations are totally 
irrelevant...



Re: Booting Debian 10 installer ISO from USB

2019-11-20 Thread Brian
On Wed 20 Nov 2019 at 13:36:20 -0600, pru...@finsakxim.com.mx wrote:

> El 2019-11-20 12:48, Brian escribió:
> > On Wed 20 Nov 2019 at 11:42:34 -0600, pru...@finsakxim.com.mx wrote:
> > 
> > > So in the end no one being able to help booting Debian 10 with grub
> > > loopback?
> > 
> > Using GRUB loopback isn't supported by the installer. The installer
> > images have initrds which do not contain iso-scan.
> > 
> > > My grub.cfg and symptoms are back in first post of this thread.
> > > Cannot understand why Debian kernel/initrd are unable to find the
> > > ISO, even
> > > with hd-media...
> > 
> > The hd-media have no trouble finding debian-10.2.0-i386-netinst.iso
> > for me. The wiki contains the advice:
> > 
> >  > ... Ensure the image, vmlinuz and initrd.gz are the most
> >  > up-to-date possible.
> 
> 
> I already know and understand that CD installer's initrd doesn't have
> iso-scan.

Everybody else understands this too. That is why no one is able to help
with booting Debian 10 with GRUB's loopback.

> Which is why, as put in first post of this thread, I tried using hd-media
> vmlinuz and initrd, though with same CD installer ISO rather than the
> netinst.
> 
> Last thing I read about the netinst is, just like live CD, they didn't
> suffer from the lack of iso-scan, so they could be used for grub loopback
> out of the box. Which is why I didn't try netinst yet. Correct me if wrong.

Open up a netinst ISO and look in /pool. Do you see iso-scan there?

> I got both hd-media vmlinuz and initrd just this week, from the link in
> first post, from the current "stable" tree. So they should be indeed
> updated.

The image you have? That's up-to-date?

> I already know one way around for installation would be booting Live CD and
> installing from within it. But feels slightly "unorthodox", and it's not the
> same as directly using the installer. Specially because I often use the
> "expert" install option.
> Also I often do offline installations (internet connection is not available
> beforehand), so netinst would not be useful for those cases.
> 
> So, if someone could help with this CD installer and hd-media issue, I'd be
> very thankful.
> Or if the fact was that Buster installer no longer supports loopback at all
> even with hd-media, just confirm it.

No installer has ever supported loopback, with or without the assistance
of hd-media.

-- 
Brian.



Re: bluetooth mouse and keyboard stop working after some time

2019-11-20 Thread Federico Beffa
Thanks for the suggestions.

After some more experiments I think that it's not a timeout/power
problem, but it's probably a bug related to suspend/resume.



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Re: USB WIFI Adapters?

2019-11-20 Thread Miguel A. Vallejo
If WiFi N is fine for you I recommend the Cisco WUSB600N V2. It's a
dual band USB stick based on the RaLink RT3572 chip and works like a
charm with Debian. I used some of them in the past for several years
with no issues.

If you need 802.11ac I guess the support is not very good yet with
Debian. I "upgraded" my WiFi sticks to new AC ones based on the
Mediatek MT7612 and I have frequent disconnects. They almost work, but
still not at 100%

Hope this helps.

Miguel A. Vallejo



Re: Booting Debian 10 installer ISO from USB

2019-11-20 Thread prueba

El 2019-11-20 13:54, Brian escribió:

Open up a netinst ISO and look in /pool. Do you see iso-scan there?


So according to you, grub loopback with hd-media vmlinuz and initrd 
works but only with netinst?



No installer has ever supported loopback, with or without the 
assistance

of hd-media.


This is *false*.
https://www.linuxjournal.com/content/grub-boot-iso?page=0,1
https://www.linuxbabe.com/debian/boot-debian-9-iso-from-hard-drive-grub2


@didier:
That trick of using ISO's kernel with hd-media initrd I already tried.



Re: USB WIFI Adapters?

2019-11-20 Thread Stefan Monnier
> I have no experience with AC, but for N and below the Asus USB-56 has
> "just worked" flawlessly with several generations (7, 8, 9) of Debian;
> also the Asus RT-N66U.

Of course, you have to remember that those product names can be "reused"
for completely different internal hardware, so while a particular "Asus
USB-56" may work dandy out of the box on Debian, another "Asus USB-56"
may simply fail completely for lack of a corresponding driver.
[ I use "Asus USB-56" here as an example without knowing if this
  particular name has been indeed used for many different underlying
  hardware.  ]


Stefan



Re: Booting Debian 10 installer ISO from USB

2019-11-20 Thread Brian
On Wed 20 Nov 2019 at 16:00:05 -0600, pru...@finsakxim.com.mx wrote:

> El 2019-11-20 13:54, Brian escribió:
> > Open up a netinst ISO and look in /pool. Do you see iso-scan there?
> 
> So according to you, grub loopback with hd-media vmlinuz and initrd works
> but only with netinst?

I asked *my* question first.

> > No installer has ever supported loopback, with or without the assistance
> > of hd-media.
> 
> This is *false*.
> https://www.linuxjournal.com/content/grub-boot-iso?page=0,1
> https://www.linuxbabe.com/debian/boot-debian-9-iso-from-hard-drive-grub2

A couple of techniques for you to investigate and report on.

-- 
Brian.



Dudas con la descarga de paquetes

2019-11-20 Thread leonel tejada
buenas noches comunidad de Debian.


el motivo de mi presente correo ... es por el hecho que estoy utilizando
Debia 10 para  un proyecto universitario, en el cual queremos instalarle
unos servers para dicho cometido, pero tengo ciertas dudas con el
funcionamiento del mismo.

he intentado con todos los comandos:

-aptitude
-apt
-apt-get
-apt-get install
-install

... sin resultado satisfactorio alguno.


por lo cual solicito su amable ayuda para saber como solventar esta
problematica.


De antemano muchas gracias por su ayuda.