Re: What am I missing that causes this error response from the wheezy mozilla?

2019-02-08 Thread Curt
On 2019-02-07, deloptes  wrote:
> Curt wrote:
>
>> I thought the $10,000 rule had to do with *cash*.
>> 
>> Cash does not include:
>> 
>> • Personal checks drawn on the account of the writer.
>> • A cashier’s check, bank draft, traveler’s check or money order with a
>> face value of more than $10,000.
>> 
>> https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-utl/irsform8300referenceguide.pdf
>> 
>> Maybe I'm missing something here.
>
> Don't know how it is in US - here if you want to withdraw more than 5000,-
> cash from the local bank office, you have to request it upfront
>

Not related to the price of tea in China.



Re: Install Report: Buster Weekly Build on Intel NUC (NUC8I5BEK1)

2019-02-08 Thread Curt
On 2019-02-07, Kenneth Parker  wrote:
>
> On Wed, Feb 6, 2019 at 11:13 PM Carl Fink  wrote:
>
>> My Intel NUC (Next Unit of Computing) mini-PC arrived today. Installing the
>> RAM and M.2 card was super-simple. Then I tried to install Debian.
>>
>
> Okay folks, it looks like Microsoft and Intel are playing Hardball on
> people installing Linux on Laptop Computers.
>


I'm unsure a small-form-factor computer is a laptop or whether, in
the case of the OP's NUC, an OS was pre-installed.



Setting default $PATH for all users

2019-02-08 Thread Richard Owlett

I'm running Debian Stretch with MATE desktop.
I want the current user and all future users to include all directories 
in root's $PATH.


I haven't found a definitive answer in my web search. The answer's seem 
to depend on which Linux is used and multiple parameters.


TIA




Re: Setting default $PATH for all users

2019-02-08 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Fri, Feb 08, 2019 at 07:18:39AM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote:
> I'm running Debian Stretch with MATE desktop.
> I want the current user and all future users to include all directories in
> root's $PATH.
> 
> I haven't found a definitive answer in my web search. The answer's seem to
> depend on which Linux is used and multiple parameters.
> 
As with most things in Linux and Unix, it depends.

Some likely candidates are /etc/bash.bashrc, /etc/profile,
/etc/profile.d/, and /etc/environment.

Regards,

-Roberto

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Re: Setting default $PATH for all users

2019-02-08 Thread tomas
On Fri, Feb 08, 2019 at 08:22:54AM -0500, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 08, 2019 at 07:18:39AM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote:
> > I'm running Debian Stretch with MATE desktop.
> > I want the current user and all future users to include all directories in
> > root's $PATH.
> > 
> > I haven't found a definitive answer in my web search. The answer's seem to
> > depend on which Linux is used and multiple parameters.
> > 
> As with most things in Linux and Unix, it depends.
> 
> Some likely candidates are /etc/bash.bashrc, /etc/profile,
> /etc/profile.d/, and /etc/environment.

More background: processes inherit their environment from their
parent process, and so on.

Since most of your (user) environment doesn't make sense for
system daemons (what is Apache to do with LS_COLORS? But also
arguably PATH shouldn't be there, or should, at least, be
ignored), there are "checkpoints" at which the (user) environment
can be set.

Traditionally that happens at login (/etc/profile, ~/.profile
and all their shell-specific variations -- sometimes you want
slightly different environments for different shells).

But X. When X came up, a similar mechanism was introduced, to
let programs started directly from X also have nice environments:
That is where Xsession (of which there are system-wide scripts
in (Debian, at least) /etc/X11/Xsession, typically broken up
in task-specific snippets in /etc/X11/Xsession.d -- and user-specific
scripts in e.g. ~/.Xsession (or its older sibling ~/.Xsessionrc)).

See "man Xsession" and the scripts in /etc/X11/Xsession* -- they
are shell scripts and might inspire you.

With the advent of desktop environments things have become
a bit more complex, but I'm the wrong person for that: I just
fled the DE craze ten years ago.

Cheers
-- tomás


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Re: Install Report: Buster Weekly Build on Intel NUC (NUC8I5BEK1)

2019-02-08 Thread Carl Fink
On Fri, Feb 08, 2019 at 12:29:36PM -, Curt wrote:

> I'm unsure a small-form-factor computer is a laptop or whether, in
> the case of the OP's NUC, an OS was pre-installed.

I didn't feel like arguing before. The NUC is a 15x15x5 cm brick, a tiny
desktop, not a laptop.

You can get it with or without an OS. Mine came without.
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Re: Setting default $PATH for all users

2019-02-08 Thread Richard Owlett

On 02/08/2019 07:37 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:

On Fri, Feb 08, 2019 at 08:22:54AM -0500, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote:

On Fri, Feb 08, 2019 at 07:18:39AM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote:

I'm running Debian Stretch with MATE desktop.
I want the current user and all future users to include all directories in
root's $PATH.

I haven't found a definitive answer in my web search. The answer's seem to
depend on which Linux is used and multiple parameters.


As with most things in Linux and Unix, it depends.

Some likely candidates are /etc/bash.bashrc, /etc/profile,
/etc/profile.d/, and /etc/environment.


More background: processes inherit their environment from their
parent process, and so on.

[snip] there are "checkpoints" at which the (user) environment
can be set.

Traditionally that happens at login (/etc/profile,


Edited that to *NO* effect.


~/.profile


By my problem definition, any thing in /home/user is not relevant as I 
explicitly want something that affects all current and future users.




and all their shell-specific variations -- sometimes you want
slightly different environments for different shells).

But X. When X came up, a similar mechanism was introduced, to
let programs started directly from X also have nice environments:
That is where Xsession (of which there are system-wide scripts
in (Debian, at least) /etc/X11/Xsession, typically broken up
in task-specific snippets in /etc/X11/Xsession.d -- and user-specific
scripts in e.g. ~/.Xsession (or its older sibling ~/.Xsessionrc)).

See "man Xsession" and the scripts in /etc/X11/Xsession* -- they
are shell scripts and might inspire you.


No mention of path there.



With the advent of desktop environments things have become
a bit more complex, but I'm the wrong person for that: I just
fled the DE craze ten years ago.

Cheers
-- tomás







Re: Setting default $PATH for all users

2019-02-08 Thread Dan Ritter
Richard Owlett wrote: 
> By my problem definition, any thing in /home/user is not relevant as I
> explicitly want something that affects all current and future users.

Everybody, no matter what?

pam_env can do that.

PAM is the pluggable authentication module system, and controls
all sorts of logins.

man pam_env  for instructions.

-dsr-



Stretch to buster

2019-02-08 Thread Paul Sutton
Hi

Updated from Stretch to Buster (non-free) the other day all went fine, 
just undertaken

apt update && apt upgrade

today and  all seem to go fine,  The process seems to be pretty painless
for the most part.

Paul


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Re: Setting default $PATH for all users

2019-02-08 Thread tomas
On Fri, Feb 08, 2019 at 08:58:28AM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote:
> On 02/08/2019 07:37 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> >More background: processes inherit their environment from their

> >parent process, and so on.
> >
> >[snip] there are "checkpoints" at which the (user) environment
> >can be set.
> >
> >Traditionally that happens at login (/etc/profile,
> 
> Edited that to *NO* effect.

I said "traditionally": there your primary "login" is a shell.
For X and graphical environments, it's another story.

> >~/.profile
> 
> By my problem definition, any thing in /home/user is not relevant as
> I explicitly want something that affects all current and future
> users.

Right -- I mentioned that for completeness, since this is a recurring
pattern: a system-wide config which can be overridden per user.

> >But X. When X came up [...]

> >See "man Xsession" and the scripts in /etc/X11/Xsession* -- they
> >are shell scripts and might inspire you.
> 
> No mention of path there.

No need: those are shell snippeds sourced by the X session shell,
which will be the mother of all your X processes -- and PATH is
part of their inherited environment. Setting PATH there will be
inherited by those.

But see Dan's other take -- pam will set things (among others
the PATH for any authentication which goes via PAM (i.e. the
display manager, where you log into X, a shell in a console,
or even an ssh from another box).

Cheers
-- tomás


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Re: Stretch to buster

2019-02-08 Thread Matthew Crews
On 2/8/19 8:06 AM, Paul Sutton wrote:
> Hi
> 
> Updated from Stretch to Buster (non-free) the other day all went fine, 
> just undertaken
> 
> apt update && apt upgrade
> 
> today and  all seem to go fine,  The process seems to be pretty painless
> for the most part.
> 
> Paul
> 
> 

That's good to hear! Keep in mind that Buster is still Testing though,
and not officially released, so you will still experience non-stable
packages and libraries.

I too am running Buster right now with minimal issues.

Cheers,

-Matt



Apparmor and skype.

2019-02-08 Thread G
Hi!
Im trying to setup apparmor on my computer.

Im trying to confine firefox-esr to just the necessary staff.
Config files and Download, Desktop directory.

This is my config file and i cant understand why it doesn't work. It
allows me to save everywhere i want.

I attach my apparmor profile


Thanks in Advance!!

# Last Modified: Fri Feb  8 16:08:56 2019
#include 

/usr/lib/firefox-esr/firefox-esr flags=(complain) {
  #include 
  #include 
  #include 

  deny "/home/*/Computer Science/**" rw,
  deny /home/*/Data/** rw,
  deny /home/*/Data/Security/** rw,
  deny /home/*/Documents/** rw,
  deny /home/*/Music/** rw,
  deny /home/*/Pictures/** rw,
  deny /home/*/Public/** rw,
  deny /home/*/Templates/** rw,
  deny /home/*/Videos/** rw,

  /home/*/Desktop/** rw,
  /home/*/Downloads/** rw,

  "/home/*/.mozilla/firefox/Crash Reports/*" r,
  "/home/*/.mozilla/firefox/Pending Pings/" r,
  /dev/shm/org.chromium.* rw,
  /home/*/ r,
  /home/*/** rwk,
  /home/*/.ICEauthority r,
  /home/*/.Xauthority r,
  /home/*/.bash_history r,
  /home/*/.bash_logout r,
  /home/*/.bashrc r,
  /home/*/.cache/* rwk,
  /home/*/.cache/fontconfig/* r,
  /home/*/.cache/mozilla/firefox/jjdjufjv.default/ r,
  /home/*/.cache/mozilla/firefox/jjdjufjv.default/.startup-incomplete w,
  /home/*/.cache/mozilla/firefox/jjdjufjv.default/activity-stream.tippytop.json 
r,
  /home/*/.cache/mozilla/firefox/jjdjufjv.default/cache2/ r,
  /home/*/.cache/mozilla/firefox/jjdjufjv.default/cache2/doomed/ r,
  /home/*/.cache/mozilla/firefox/jjdjufjv.default/cache2/doomed/* w,
  /home/*/.cache/mozilla/firefox/jjdjufjv.default/cache2/entries/* rw,
  /home/*/.cache/mozilla/firefox/jjdjufjv.default/cache2/index rw,
  /home/*/.cache/mozilla/firefox/jjdjufjv.default/cache2/index.log rw,
  /home/*/.cache/mozilla/firefox/jjdjufjv.default/cache2/index.tmp rw,
  /home/*/.cache/mozilla/firefox/jjdjufjv.default/safebrowsing-backup/ rw,
  /home/*/.cache/mozilla/firefox/jjdjufjv.default/safebrowsing-updating/ rw,
  
/home/*/.cache/mozilla/firefox/jjdjufjv.default/safebrowsing-updating/allow-flashallow-digest256.pset
 w,
  
/home/*/.cache/mozilla/firefox/jjdjufjv.default/safebrowsing-updating/allow-flashallow-digest256.sbstore
 w,
  
/home/*/.cache/mozilla/firefox/jjdjufjv.default/safebrowsing-updating/base-track-digest256.pset
 w,
  
/home/*/.cache/mozilla/firefox/jjdjufjv.default/safebrowsing-updating/base-track-digest256.sbstore
 w,
  
/home/*/.cache/mozilla/firefox/jjdjufjv.default/safebrowsing-updating/block-flash-digest256.pset
 w,
  
/home/*/.cache/mozilla/firefox/jjdjufjv.default/safebrowsing-updating/block-flash-digest256.sbstore
 w,
  
/home/*/.cache/mozilla/firefox/jjdjufjv.default/safebrowsing-updating/block-flashsubdoc-digest256.pset
 w,
  
/home/*/.cache/mozilla/firefox/jjdjufjv.default/safebrowsing-updating/block-flashsubdoc-digest256.sbstore
 w,
  
/home/*/.cache/mozilla/firefox/jjdjufjv.default/safebrowsing-updating/except-flash-digest256.pset
 w,
  
/home/*/.cache/mozilla/firefox/jjdjufjv.default/safebrowsing-updating/except-flash-digest256.sbstore
 w,
  
/home/*/.cache/mozilla/firefox/jjdjufjv.default/safebrowsing-updating/except-flashallow-digest256.pset
 w,
  
/home/*/.cache/mozilla/firefox/jjdjufjv.default/safebrowsing-updating/except-flashallow-digest256.sbstore
 w,
  
/home/*/.cache/mozilla/firefox/jjdjufjv.default/safebrowsing-updating/except-flashsubdoc-digest256.pset
 w,
  
/home/*/.cache/mozilla/firefox/jjdjufjv.default/safebrowsing-updating/except-flashsubdoc-digest256.sbstore
 w,
  
/home/*/.cache/mozilla/firefox/jjdjufjv.default/safebrowsing-updating/google4/ 
rw,
  
/home/*/.cache/mozilla/firefox/jjdjufjv.default/safebrowsing-updating/mozplugin-block-digest256.pset
 w,
  
/home/*/.cache/mozilla/firefox/jjdjufjv.default/safebrowsing-updating/mozplugin-block-digest256.sbstore
 w,
  
/home/*/.cache/mozilla/firefox/jjdjufjv.default/safebrowsing-updating/mozstd-trackwhite-digest256.pset
 w,
  
/home/*/.cache/mozilla/firefox/jjdjufjv.default/safebrowsing-updating/mozstd-trackwhite-digest256.sbstore
 w,
  
/home/*/.cache/mozilla/firefox/jjdjufjv.default/safebrowsing-updating/test-block-simple-1.sbstore
 rw,
  
/home/*/.cache/mozilla/firefox/jjdjufjv.default/safebrowsing-updating/test-block-simple.pset
 rw,
  
/home/*/.cache/mozilla/firefox/jjdjufjv.default/safebrowsing-updating/test-block-simple.sbstore
 rw,
  
/home/*/.cache/mozilla/firefox/jjdjufjv.default/safebrowsing-updating/test-harmful-simple-1.sbstore
 rw,
  
/home/*/.cache/mozilla/firefox/jjdjufjv.default/safebrowsing-updating/test-harmful-simple.pset
 rw,
  
/home/*/.cache/mozilla/firefox/jjdjufjv.default/safebrowsing-updating/test-harmful-simple.sbstore
 rw,
  
/home/*/.cache/mozilla/firefox/jjdjufjv.default/safebrowsing-updating/test-malware-simple-1.sbstore
 rw,
  
/home/*/.cache/mozilla/firefox/jjdjufjv.default/safebrowsing-updating/test-malware-simple.pset
 rw,
  
/home/*/.cache/mozilla/firefox/jjdjufjv.default/safebrowsing-updating/test-malware-simple.sbstore
 rw,
  
/home/*/.cache/moz

Re: Apparmor and firefox!

2019-02-08 Thread G
I corrected the subject title!

On 2/8/19 5:47 PM, G wrote:
> Hi!
> Im trying to setup apparmor on my computer.
> 
> Im trying to confine firefox-esr to just the necessary staff.
> Config files and Download, Desktop directory.
> 
> This is my config file and i cant understand why it doesn't work. It
> allows me to save everywhere i want.
> 
> I attach my apparmor profile
> 
> 
> Thanks in Advance!!
> 



Re: Stretch to buster

2019-02-08 Thread Peter Ehlert

I did the same on a test install, a couple times. (mate desktop)
The first try failed, I forgot to also edit the 
/etc/apt/sources.list.d/base.list

the second worked quite well.

I am a bit nervous about updating my daily drivers.

On 2/8/19 7:06 AM, Paul Sutton wrote:

Hi

Updated from Stretch to Buster (non-free) the other day all went fine,
just undertaken

apt update && apt upgrade

today and  all seem to go fine,  The process seems to be pretty painless
for the most part.

Paul






Re: IPv6 addresses

2019-02-08 Thread Pascal Hambourg

Le 08/02/2019 à 04:00, Richard Hector a écrit :


However, it's starting to look like the router actually does
advertise the ULA as well (I thought it didn't)


AFAIK, a router does not advertise a prefix by itself, if it has not 
been configured to do so.



It just appears that the idea of using one stanza per ip address (or at
least per prefix) doesn't seem to work consistently.


It works to configure up multiple static addresses on an interface. It 
may not work as expected to configure addresses using multiple methods 
which set interface parameter values conflicting with each other.




Re: Setting default $PATH for all users

2019-02-08 Thread David Wright
On Fri 08 Feb 2019 at 07:18:39 (-0600), Richard Owlett wrote:
> I'm running Debian Stretch with MATE desktop.
> I want the current user and all future users to include all
> directories in root's $PATH.

If you're talking about PATH, then you're talking about logging in.
So of equal importance to the DE you're using is the DM, and I'll
guess that's likely lightdm. Was that amongst your search terms?

> I haven't found a definitive answer in my web search. The answers
> seem to depend on which Linux is used and multiple parameters.

Yes, as are so many other details of configuration.

If searching outwards gets you no further, then perhaps turn your
attention inwards. For example,   grep -r PATH /etc   or, a little
less noisy,   grep -r PATH= /etc   will reveal some candidates
(plus lots of false positives, which the filenames will make obvious).

Cheers,
David.



Re: Stretch to buster

2019-02-08 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Fri, 8 Feb 2019 15:06:34 +
Paul Sutton  wrote:

> Updated from Stretch to Buster (non-free) the other day all went fine, 
> just undertaken

Why?  Buster is still alpha.  A lot can still go wrong.  Hope it's not
your primary use distro.

> apt update && apt upgrade

With testing, dist-upgrade is the recommended upgrade procedure. That
would be 'full-upgrade' with apt, if memory serves.  Read the
manual for why. 

> today and  all seem to go fine,  The process seems to be pretty painless
> for the most part.

Well I think that's because Debian's alphas are everybody else's betas
or better.

B



mariadb 10.1 for debian buster

2019-02-08 Thread Larry Martell
I am trying to install MySQL-python on debian buster. It's failing to
build with the error I found detailed here:
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=918393. From reading
that it appears to be fixed, but in the version of mariadb I get it's
not. The version of mariadb I get is 10.3. I did not have this issue
with 10.1. Is there a way to still get 10.1? I have tried many
variations like mariadb-common=10.1 but none work. Alternatively, is
there a way to get the fixed 10.3?



Re: Stretch to buster

2019-02-08 Thread Peter Ehlert



On 2/8/19 11:09 AM, Patrick Bartek wrote:

On Fri, 8 Feb 2019 15:06:34 +
Paul Sutton  wrote:


Updated from Stretch to Buster (non-free) the other day all went fine,
just undertaken

Why?  Buster is still alpha.  A lot can still go wrong.  Hope it's not
your primary use distro.

Why?: 1. migrate now, or later this year when Buster is the new Stable.
2. Newer features. Mate 1.20 is great, so is 1.16 but there have been 
several "new shiny things" I like.


alpha? maybe so: Been using Buster on one machine for 6 months or a 
year, no issues... none that lasted more than the next update anyway. 
The last couple months zip.


I have other distros available on the machines. My data is always 
accessible.



apt update && apt upgrade

With testing, dist-upgrade is the recommended upgrade procedure. That
would be 'full-upgrade' with apt, if memory serves.  Read the
manual for why.


my procedure was dead simple:

using Pluma:
edit both /etc/apt/sources.list and /etc/apt/sources.list.d/base.list
> replace stretch with buster

using Synaptic: refresh and update ... took about an hour.

reboot and all was good


today and  all seem to go fine,  The process seems to be pretty painless
for the most part.

Well I think that's because Debian's alphas are everybody else's betas
or better.
true that! packages have to be in pretty good shape to get to the Buster 
repo

excellent vetting process


B







GUIs are turning into seas of grey (gnumeric)

2019-02-08 Thread David Wright
I can't understand why modern GUIs are composed of grey20 widgets
on a grey21 background. How am I meant to know what's going to happen
when I press Return on each of these dialogue boxes, 1­3?

We used to see things more like attachment 4 only a few years ago.
How can I get back something like that?

help.gnome.org/users/gnumeric/stable/gnumeric.html is a huge page
and it shows fancy elements being placed on graphs, but not into
its own windows, as far as I can see.

Cheers,
David.


Re: Stretch to buster

2019-02-08 Thread Paul Sutton


On 09/02/2019 02:22, Peter Ehlert wrote:
>
> On 2/8/19 11:09 AM, Patrick Bartek wrote:
>> On Fri, 8 Feb 2019 15:06:34 +
>> Paul Sutton  wrote:
>>
>>> Updated from Stretch to Buster (non-free) the other day all went fine,
>>> just undertaken
>> Why?  Buster is still alpha.  A lot can still go wrong.  Hope it's not
>> your primary use distro.
> Why?: 1. migrate now, or later this year when Buster is the new Stable.
> 2. Newer features. Mate 1.20 is great, so is 1.16 but there have been
> several "new shiny things" I like.
>
> alpha? maybe so: Been using Buster on one machine for 6 months or a
> year, no issues... none that lasted more than the next update anyway.
> The last couple months zip.
>
> I have other distros available on the machines. My data is always
> accessible.
>>
>>> apt update && apt upgrade
>> With testing, dist-upgrade is the recommended upgrade procedure. That
>> would be 'full-upgrade' with apt, if memory serves.  Read the
>> manual for why.
>
> my procedure was dead simple:
>
> using Pluma:
> edit both /etc/apt/sources.list and /etc/apt/sources.list.d/base.list
> > replace stretch with buster
>
> using Synaptic: refresh and update ... took about an hour.
>
> reboot and all was good
>
>>> today and  all seem to go fine,  The process seems to be pretty
>>> painless
>>> for the most part.
>> Well I think that's because Debian's alphas are everybody else's betas
>> or better.
> true that! packages have to be in pretty good shape to get to the
> Buster repo
> excellent vetting process
>
> I have a spare netbook, which was running stretch, not really being used
> for much as I have my main desktop / netbook for general use / work.  
> However why not upgrade and test.  I am sure given the comments to this
> thread with regard to no problems etc is of great comfort to the
> developers. 
>
> I can't do much,  as I am probably not technical enough.  I can run the
> update commands,  and see what happens,  I have an idea on how to pipe
> these messages to a file.  This can be shared and hopefully be useful.
>
> If I share issues here others may be able to say if they have the same
> issue.  For the most part we can discuss the experiences here and
> confirm issues.
>
> The about myself tool still comes up with 'unknown error' when trying to
> apply changes.
>
> xfce menu -> debian - applications -> system - administration - about myself
>
> enter info - apply - password - unknown error
>
>
> Paul

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