Re: Kwrite: A way to increase the number of items in the Open Recent menu?

[deloptes]

local10 wrote:

> Dec 15, 2018, 8:55 AM by b...@fineby.me.uk:
> 
>> On Sat, 15 Dec 2018 14:31:03 +0100 (CET)
>> local10 <> loca...@tutanota.com > > wrote:
>>
>> >Is there a way to increase the number of items in the Open Recent menu
>> >in Kwrite?
>>
>> Modify the source code and compile.
>>
> 
> I was hoping for an easier solution, like editing the kwrite config file
> or something. A while back it used to be a configuration option accessible
> through "Configure Editor" but then it was removed... Regards,

Do you have the option in kate?

Re: do you find old firefox is better than new one?

[Eike Lantzsch]

Dear Long Wind:
Usually I don't reply AOL but in this case I second that.
I'm an unhappy Firefox-user on Debian and am looking for alternatives.
Yes, I do have many tabs open, 'cause I need them. I got plenty of memory but 
Firefox does not seem to use it efficiently.

On Sunday, December 16, 2018 9:32:07 AM -03 Long Wind wrote:
> i have 52.9.0 and 45.9.0, both for stretch
> new one often becomes unresponsive,
or slows down extremely ...
> and i have to close it and restart it
> it often happens when i first start it
> maybe some function/service is blocked in China
I cannot second this behaviour. Do you use some or many extensions? Maybe 
legacy add-ons?
What about scripting on those pages? Here often enough scripts are stopped.
> it seems it's doing something impossible, and takes much cpu resource
> but old firefox also face blocking
Often 1 cpu of 4 is 100% in use without anything happening.
> 
> i can't describe it in more details or reproduce problem
Same here. Modern browsers are such a conglomerate of code that describing a 
problem is very difficult or impossible, even less pinning it down, not to 
mention debugging it. 

Unfortunately I also was never happy with Safari on OSX nor with IE or later 
with Edge on Win7 or 10 when I was compelled to use it.
My use of Firefox on OSX or Win10 is not as intense as on Linux so I cannot 
directly compare the OSes in this respect. As a consequence I shall not throw 
blame on the OS.

Life is too short for browsers.

Cheers,
Eike
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Re: do you find old firefox is better than new one?

[songbird]

Long Wind wrote:
...
> i have 52.9.0 and 45.9.0, both for stretch
> new one often becomes unresponsive, 
> and i have to close it and restart it
> it often happens when i first start it
> maybe some function/service is blocked in China
> it seems it's doing something impossible, and takes much cpu resource 
> but old firefox also face blocking
>
> i can't describe it in more details or reproduce problem

  no, perhaps you have some add-on causing issues.
have you tried restarting it without add-ons?

  i've been running version 63.0.3-1 and there
is some sort of temporary issue with and upgrade
to 64, but eventually it will be sorted out.


  songbird

Re: do you find old firefox is better than new one?

[Joe]

On Sun, 16 Dec 2018 08:07:06 -0300
Eike Lantzsch  wrote:


> 
> Life is too short for browsers.

Indeed so, the main problem being that web designers charge a lot of
money, and for that the customer expects to see lots of whizzy things
on the pages, many of which can simply not be achieved in HTML. Every
page must have links to all the fashionable social media, and not just
links, but calls to chunks of JavaScript.

And there we have the real villain: the point of a programming
language is that arbitrary programs can be written in it, and there's
no way to optimise the browser to handle every possible program
efficiently. 

So many pages now have little or no functionality unless you permit half
a dozen scripts to run, many of them written by idiots who can just
barely drive a web authoring package. Look at the page source: 90% of
it is font commands, workarounds for many different rendering engines
and screen sizes, and other housekeeping stuff, and half the rest is JS
calls. I write the odd web application for my own use, and I do it
(usually) in php with embedded HTML. No web designer would ever
consider doing that, he wants to dash off rubbish in the shortest time
possible, and he assumes everyone is using the same browser, on a
high-powered workstation, that he uses for testing.

-- 
Joe

Re: Most reliable dual band driver/chipset

[Dan Purgert]

Tjm wrote:
> I've been using an Alfa dual band USB3 wifi adapter and while it works and =
> when it happens to stay connected it's fast and fine=2E  But it disconnects=
>  often for no apparent reason and won't reconnect by itself without removin=
> g and then reloading the module=2E  Built and tried several versions of the=
>  rtl8812au and found one branch that I've been using, v5=2E9=2Exxx versions=
>  work but with the connection reliability issue=2E
>
> Looking for a recommendation for an adapter and/or chip=2E

Ive never had trouble with intel -- but they don't do external / usb,
last I checked.  Just internal, and IIRC, laptop-sized at that (so
you'd need one of those adapter cards for a desktop).

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Re: Most reliable dual band driver/chipset

[Miguel A. Vallejo]

I'm using Ralink RT3572 (Linksys WUSB600N v2) with no problems after
disabling mac randomization in Network Manager. The only drawback is
it is only a 802.11n device. I'm looking for a 802.11ac upgrade with
no success.

Re: do you find old firefox is better than new one?

[Carl Fink]

On 12/16/18 4:32 AM, Long Wind wrote:

i have 52.9.0 and 45.9.0, both for stretch
new one often becomes unresponsive,
and i have to close it and restart it
it often happens when i first start it
maybe some function/service is blocked in China
it seems it's doing something impossible, and takes much cpu resource
but old firefox also face blocking

i can't describe it in more details or reproduce problem

I can maybe give details of what I have been experiencing. I have both

63.0 (release) and 60.3 (firefox-esr).

60.3 is pretty usable. Sometimes the CPU usage seems high, especially
if I have 20 or more tabs open, but it rarely causes an actual problem.

63 will routinely use so much CPU my system freezes due to
overheating. (I probably need a better CPU fan, but at the same time,
no other application has ever come close to doing this.) Also tabs will
freeze. I was going to say "occasionally"  but in fact it's "about
twice an hour" if I'm actually doing anything with Firefox. The result
is that I only use the ESR version. I was actually planning to file a
bug but this has been a busy couple of weeks for me. At least FF has
added a mechanism that lets me kill just the offending tab, without
having to restart the browser entirely. Unfortunately, the mechanism
involves using htop to identify the offending thread (it will generally
be using 160% of CPU, somehow) and using kill -15.

Disappointing.

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Just a test

[Nick]

Please ignore or make humorous replies, as you prefer.
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Re: Jessie / Mips fails to downoad index

[Clemens Eisserer]

Hi again,

Does really nobody know how to get packages for jessie/mipsel?

> Therefore I would like to continue to use jessie (even if packages are
> outdated or have known security issues), however apt-get update seems
> to fail consistently.
> Is there anythinbg I can do so I will be able to continou to access
> the package repositories?

Br, Clemens

Re: Jessie / Mips fails to downoad index

[Georgi Naplatanov]

On 12/16/18 5:02 PM, Clemens Eisserer wrote:
> Hi again,
> 
> Does really nobody know how to get packages for jessie/mipsel?

It seems that Jessie is on Debian mirrors.

For example - http://ftp.bg.debian.org/debian/dists/jessie/

HTH

Kind regards
Georgi

Re: do you find old firefox is better than new one?

[Juan R. de Silva]

On Sun, 16 Dec 2018 08:07:06 -0300, Eike Lantzsch wrote:

> Dear Long Wind:
> Usually I don't reply AOL but in this case I second that.
> I'm an unhappy Firefox-user on Debian and am looking for alternatives.
> Yes, I do have many tabs open, 'cause I need them. I got plenty of
> memory but Firefox does not seem to use it efficiently.

After arival of FF Quantum I switched to Vivaldi. It's and exellent 
browser to my surpise and is manages tabs very well. Give it a try.

[SOLVED?] Re: Kwrite: A way to increase the number of items in the Open Recent menu?

[local10]

Dec 16, 2018, 3:31 AM by delop...@gmail.com:

> Do you have the option in kate?
>

Yes, this option is still present in Kate. I'll see if it affects Kwrite or 
maybe will use Kate as my default editor. Thanks

Re: do you find old firefox is better than new one?

[tomas]

On Sun, Dec 16, 2018 at 03:58:23PM +, Juan R. de Silva wrote:
> On Sun, 16 Dec 2018 08:07:06 -0300, Eike Lantzsch wrote:
> 
> > Dear Long Wind:
> > Usually I don't reply AOL but in this case I second that.
> > I'm an unhappy Firefox-user on Debian and am looking for alternatives.
> > Yes, I do have many tabs open, 'cause I need them. I got plenty of
> > memory but Firefox does not seem to use it efficiently.
> 
> After arival of FF Quantum I switched to Vivaldi. It's and exellent 
> browser to my surpise and is manages tabs very well. Give it a try.

Yet another Chromium. People, realize that it's Internet Game Over once
Google has both ends of it.

Cheers
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Re: Just a test

[Default User]

On Sun, Dec 16, 2018, 09:46 Nick  Please ignore or make humorous replies, as you prefer.
> --
> Nick
>


You failed.

: )

Re: Just a test

[Nick]

On 2018-12-16 16:36 GMT, Default User wrote:
> You failed.
> 
> : )

Sadly, I did!  I wanted to see how compatible my recent postfix
changes are with mailing lists.  My postfix used header_checks to look
for a spoofed From: header, aiming to reject outside mail that
pretends to come from my domain.

But the copy of my post came back from the list with my original From:
so my check rejected it as spoofed.  That might not matter so long as
I remain subscribed and can see other posts and replies.  But then the
listmasters told me I might be kicked for bouncing.  I don't see an
easy way to make the header check ignore mailing lists so I've dropped
it now.
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Re: do you find old firefox is better than new one?

[dekkzz78]

On 12/16, Long Wind wrote:

i have 52.9.0 and 45.9.0, both for stretch
new one often becomes unresponsive,
and i have to close it and restart it
it often happens when i first start it
maybe some function/service is blocked in China
it seems it's doing something impossible, and takes much cpu resource
but old firefox also face blocking

i can't describe it in more details or reproduce problem


New FF is for me by far the better, quicker and far better memory use.
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Re: Most reliable dual band driver/chipset

[Cindy-Sue Causey]

On 12/15/18, Tjm  wrote:
> I've been using an Alfa dual band USB3 wifi adapter and while it works and
> when it happens to stay connected it's fast and fine.  But it disconnects
> often for no apparent reason and won't reconnect by itself without removing
> and then reloading the module.  Built and tried several versions of the
> rtl8812au and found one branch that I've been using, v5.9.xxx versions work
> but with the connection reliability issue.
>
> Looking for a recommendation for an adapter and/or chip.


For the archives regarding problematic USB disconnections: I can't
remember if I've ever said this on this list. I've intended to so it
may be sitting in a draft email somewhere...

When other explanations don't fit and it's about laptops, the
unexplained disconnection can be about *heat* from the laptop's fan
exhaust. Well, depending on a desktop PC's layout, it could be for the
same reason there, too.

That was an accidental find of mine. I was having trouble with an
external hard drive doing the same disconnect game. It wasn't doing
that when plugged into the ports on the other side of the laptop.

One day I realized how HOT the affected USB connection was when I
reached up to unplug and replug while still thinking a loose or
degrading connection was the problem.

I blocked the fan's heat exhaust somehow, redirected that heat and
never had a disconnect problem again on that same port. That was, yes,
permanent success while still using that same external hard drive's
dock. In fact am STILL using that same dock ~five years later. :)

PS No, modules never played a part in that particular experience.

Cindy :)
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Buster: Dolphin Ctrl+F: baloosearch on some dirs, filenamesearch on others

[local10]

Hi,

For some reason KDE Dolphin invokes (after pressing Ctrl+F) baloosearch on some 
directories and filenamesearch on others. Baloosearch does not work for me 
(that is, shows 0 folders, 0 files even when there are files matching the 
search criteria) while filenamesearch works fine. Why does Dolphin invoke 
baloosearch on some directories and how do I disable baloosearch and make 
filenamesearch work on all directories?

In KDE System settings > Search > File Search I have:
  [X] Enable File Search (checked)
  [ ] Also index file content (unchecked)

Any ideas? Thanks

Asserting local repository is trusted (man page problem?)

[Richard Owlett]

My sources.list has lines of the form
deb trusted=yes file:/media/richard/debian9/dvd1 stable main contrib

When using Synaptic's "Edit->Reload Package Information" the error 
message is:

E: Malformed entry 3 in list file /etc/apt/sources.list (URI parse)
E: The list of sources could not be read.
Go to the repository dialog to correct the problem.
E: _cache->open() failed, please report.


https://manpages.debian.org/stretch/apt/sources.list.5.en.html states

Uses the archive stored locally (or NFS mounted) at /home/apt/debian
for stable/main, stable/contrib, and stable/non-free.

deb file:/home/apt/debian stable main contrib non-free


It also states:

The format for two one-line-style entries using the deb and deb-src types is:

deb [ option1=value1 option2=value2 ] uri suite [component1] [component2] [...]



https://manpages.debian.org/stretch/apt/sources.list.5.en.html states:

THE DEB AND DEB-SRC TYPES: OPTIONS
Each source entry can have options specified to modify which source is accessed 
and how data is acquired from it. Format, syntax and names of the options vary 
between the one-line-style and deb822-style formats as described, but they both 
have the same options available. For simplicity we list the deb822 fieldname 
and provide the one-line name in brackets.


and later states:
•Trusted ( trusted) is a tri-state value which defaults to APT deciding if a source is considered trusted or if warnings should be raised before e.g. packages are installed from this source. 


Whats my problem?
TIA

Re: Asserting local repository is trusted (man page problem?)

[Sven Joachim]

On 2018-12-16 13:03 -0600, Richard Owlett wrote:

> My sources.list has lines of the form
> deb trusted=yes file:/media/richard/debian9/dvd1 stable main contrib
>
> When using Synaptic's "Edit->Reload Package Information" the error
> message is:
>> E: Malformed entry 3 in list file /etc/apt/sources.list (URI parse)
>> E: The list of sources could not be read.
>> Go to the repository dialog to correct the problem.
>> E: _cache->open() failed, please report.
>
> https://manpages.debian.org/stretch/apt/sources.list.5.en.html states
>> Uses the archive stored locally (or NFS mounted) at /home/apt/debian
>> for stable/main, stable/contrib, and stable/non-free.
>>
>> deb file:/home/apt/debian stable main contrib non-free
>>
> It also states:
>> The format for two one-line-style entries using the deb and deb-src types is:
>>
>> deb [ option1=value1 option2=value2 ] uri suite [component1] [component2] 
>> [...]

It might not be totally obvious, but the square brackets around
"option=value" need to be put verbatim in sources.list entries.  Note
the spaces after the opening and before the closing bracket.

deb [ trusted=yes ] file:/… works for me.

Cheers,
   Sven

Re: Asserting local repository is trusted (man page problem?)

[songbird]

Richard Owlett wrote:
> My sources.list has lines of the form
> deb trusted=yes file:/media/richard/debian9/dvd1 stable main contrib
>
> When using Synaptic's "Edit->Reload Package Information" the error 
> message is:
>> E: Malformed entry 3 in list file /etc/apt/sources.list (URI parse)
>> E: The list of sources could not be read.
>> Go to the repository dialog to correct the problem.
>> E: _cache->open() failed, please report.
>
> https://manpages.debian.org/stretch/apt/sources.list.5.en.html states
>> Uses the archive stored locally (or NFS mounted) at /home/apt/debian
>> for stable/main, stable/contrib, and stable/non-free.
>> 
>> deb file:/home/apt/debian stable main contrib non-free
>> 
> It also states:
>> The format for two one-line-style entries using the deb and deb-src types is:
>> 
>> deb [ option1=value1 option2=value2 ] uri suite [component1] [component2] 
>> [...]
>
>
> https://manpages.debian.org/stretch/apt/sources.list.5.en.html states:
>> THE DEB AND DEB-SRC TYPES: OPTIONS
>> Each source entry can have options specified to modify which source is 
>> accessed and how data is acquired from it. Format, syntax and names of the 
>> options vary between the one-line-style and deb822-style formats as 
>> described, but they both have the same options available. For simplicity we 
>> list the deb822 fieldname and provide the one-line name in brackets.
>
> and later states:
>> •Trusted ( trusted) is a tri-state value which defaults to APT deciding if a 
>> source is considered trusted or if warnings should be raised before e.g. 
>> packages are installed from this source. 
>
> Whats my problem?
> TIA

  let's see that file.

  my guess is that you're missing a / character on that line, but
perhaps there's a strange character in there or something.

  if you ever suspect a strange character in a file use od to 
examine it.


  songbird

Re: Asserting local repository is trusted (man page problem?)

[songbird]

Richard Owlett wrote:
... 
>> deb file:/home/apt/debian stable main contrib non-free

  you may be even missing more than one / there...


  songbird

Re: Asserting local repository is trusted (man page problem?)

[Brian]

On Sun 16 Dec 2018 at 13:03:39 -0600, Richard Owlett wrote:

> Whats my problem?

Your ability to quote a man page is unparalled. Your understanding of
what it tells you isn't in the same ballpark. Please try harder.

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Re: do you find old firefox is better than new one?

[Juan R. de Silva]

On Sun, 16 Dec 2018 17:24:20 +0100, tomas wrote:

> On Sun, Dec 16, 2018 at 03:58:23PM +, Juan R. de Silva wrote:
>> On Sun, 16 Dec 2018 08:07:06 -0300, Eike Lantzsch wrote:
>> 
>> > Dear Long Wind:
>> > Usually I don't reply AOL but in this case I second that.
>> > I'm an unhappy Firefox-user on Debian and am looking for alternatives.
>> > Yes, I do have many tabs open, 'cause I need them. I got plenty of
>> > memory but Firefox does not seem to use it efficiently.
>> 
>> After arival of FF Quantum I switched to Vivaldi. It's and exellent 
>> browser to my surpise and is manages tabs very well. Give it a try.
> 
> Yet another Chromium. People, realize that it's Internet Game Over once
> Google has both ends of it.

And what makes you think that Google doesn't have them anyway? BTW, Isn't FF 
shiped with Google as the default search engine? Or does it really make much
of difference changing it to anything else (I must confess I did, I use 
Startpage instead. It gives a kind of a sweet illusion.)

I use uMatrix and it is a very revealing tool. About 90% of websites, if
not more, are simply not usable unless you allow Google sniffing anyway.

Well, it is a sad reality, I agree. But there is not much we can do about
it.

Re: do you find old firefox is better than new one?

[tomas]

On Sun, Dec 16, 2018 at 08:22:26PM +, Juan R. de Silva wrote:

[...]

> I use uMatrix and it is a very revealing tool. About 90% of websites, if
> not more, are simply not usable unless you allow Google sniffing anyway.

This is (partially) right. You'd be surprised how usable the Web is with
Javascript disabled *and* a good deal of the googlesites neutered in the
resolver. But I disgress...

> Well, it is a sad reality, I agree. But there is not much we can do about
> it.

This is wrong. There are things we can do. The worst we can do is defetism.

It's *important* to let them know we don't like that behaviour. They are
an advertising firm, and thus very dependent on their public image. Help
them getting a tainted image (as long as they do what they do now).

Cheers
-- tomás


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Re: do you find old firefox is better than new one?

[Ben Caradoc-Davies]

On 17/12/2018 06:35, dekkz...@gmail.com wrote:

On 12/16, Long Wind wrote:

i have 52.9.0 and 45.9.0, both for stretch
new one often becomes unresponsive,
and i have to close it and restart it

New FF is for me by far the better, quicker and far better memory use.


Firefox 63 and 64 have been good for me. Earlier 60s seemed to have slow 
startup but this might have been because of plugins that have now been 
improved. I have not experienced any hangs or resource problems, and I 
use many windows and tabs. I use NoScript and Adblock Plus, which reduce 
resource consumption.


Kind regards,

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Director
Transient Software Limited 
New Zealand

Re: do you find old firefox is better than new one?

[deloptes]

Joe wrote:

> So many pages now have little or no functionality unless you permit half
> a dozen scripts to run, many of them written by idiots who can just
> barely drive a web authoring package. Look at the page source: 90% of
> it is font commands, workarounds for many different rendering engines
> and screen sizes, and other housekeeping stuff, and half the rest is JS
> calls. I write the odd web application for my own use, and I do it
> (usually) in php with embedded HTML. No web designer would ever
> consider doing that, he wants to dash off rubbish in the shortest time
> possible, and he assumes everyone is using the same browser, on a
> high-powered workstation, that he uses for testing.

Many of them even do not know what is the source they produce. Don't blame
them - they use kind of tools that generate the code. All is getting
automated and at the cost of data transfer and processing.
As of PHP ... I found symfony framework, spent some time to learn it and ...
much better now.

regards

Re: do you find old firefox is better than new one?

[Ben Finney]

Long Wind  writes:

> i have 52.9.0 and 45.9.0, both for stretch
> new one often becomes unresponsive,

Which one of “52.9.0” and “45.9.0” is the “new one”? Or do you mean some
other version?

Have you tried versions later than “52”? Debian Buster now has
‘firefox-esr’ version “60.4.0esr-1”. How does that change the behaviour
for you?

> and i have to close it and restart it

This happened for me quite often, because many of the Firefox extensions
were not compatible with Firefox 60.

So, some of the extensions which formerly blocked garbage from many
internet sites – malware like advertising and trackers – resumed when I
visited sites, so many of my tabs would contain malware that quickly
crippled the performance of the browser.

After installing newer, compatible extensions (NoScript 10, uMatrix,
uBlock Origin) and restarting the browser, that malware ceased, and my
browser is now happily fast again.

> i can't describe it in more details or reproduce problem

If you can answer some of the questions above, that might help us
understand better the behaviour you are describing.

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ot: of a sort, alternative news collection sources?

[Karen Lewellen]

Hi all,
When Google made major changes to its google news platform, someone 
richly and kindly created an alternative that kept the old google news 
format.

www.theoldgnews.com
Unfortunately word got back to google with their making more changes to 
the point the developers behind this source have shut down.
they are open to others taking it on of course, which might have happened 
by now..fingers crossed.
If not, does anyone know of an alternative source that provides a 
collection of news stories from various outlets in one place?

Thanks,
Kare

Re: Asserting local repository is trusted (man page problem?)

[David]

On Mon, 17 Dec 2018 at 06:04, Richard Owlett  wrote:
>
> My sources.list has lines of the form
> deb trusted=yes file:/media/richard/debian9/dvd1 stable main contrib
>
> When using Synaptic's "Edit->Reload Package Information" the error
> message is:
> > E: Malformed entry 3 in list file /etc/apt/sources.list (URI parse)
> > E: The list of sources could not be read.
> > Go to the repository dialog to correct the problem.
> > E: _cache->open() failed, please report.
>
> https://manpages.debian.org/stretch/apt/sources.list.5.en.html states

[snipped]

> Whats my problem?
> TIA

Reading the URL you provided above, under the heading
ONE-LINE-STYLE FORMAT
we find this text:
"If options should be provided they are separated by spaces and
all of them together are enclosed by square brackets ([]) included
in the line after the type separated from it with a space."

Yes that is worth at least one facepalm.

Re: do you find old firefox is better than new one?

[Tixy]

On Mon, 2018-12-17 at 04:32 +, Long Wind wrote:
>  52.9.0 is new one, i have stretch and early debian, 
> i don't have buster, and can't install later firefox

stretch-updates has 60.4.0esr, but if I remember right you don't like
security updates?

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Tixy 

Re: do you find old firefox is better than new one?

[Long Wind]

new isn't necessarily better than old
i don't have enough reason to install security update and new firefox at this 
point.
52.9.0 performs  a little better now.
Thanks for your info. 

On Monday, December 17, 2018 2:42 PM, Tixy  wrote:
 

 On Mon, 2018-12-17 at 04:32 +, Long Wind wrote:
>  52.9.0 is new one, i have stretch and early debian, 
> i don't have buster, and can't install later firefox

stretch-updates has 60.4.0esr, but if I remember right you don't like
security updates?

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