Re: Install & restore backup: what if I use LVM?

2018-11-20 Thread Jonathan Dowland

On Tue, Nov 20, 2018 at 08:21:04AM +0200, Johann Spies wrote:

You can install LVM if you want, but it might be worth while to take
note that you loose all the data if the disk fails underneath.  I had
a bad experience using LVM including more than one disk and everything
was lost when the disk failed - even on the disk that did not fail.
Backups did help, but that was an experience that made me decide never
to use LVM again.


Sadly you are blaming the wrong thing here. The correct thing to do
(after making sure you have a reliable backup system you trust) would be
not to use multiple physical disks underneath one LVM volume group.


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Re: Install & restore backup: what if I use LVM?

2018-11-20 Thread Reco
Hi.

On Tue, Nov 20, 2018 at 10:38:54AM +, Jonathan Dowland wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 20, 2018 at 08:21:04AM +0200, Johann Spies wrote:
> > You can install LVM if you want, but it might be worth while to take
> > note that you loose all the data if the disk fails underneath.  I had
> > a bad experience using LVM including more than one disk and everything
> > was lost when the disk failed - even on the disk that did not fail.
> > Backups did help, but that was an experience that made me decide never
> > to use LVM again.
> 
> Sadly you are blaming the wrong thing here. The correct thing to do
> (after making sure you have a reliable backup system you trust) would be
> not to use multiple physical disks underneath one LVM volume group.

It's perfectly OK to do so if one uses mirrored logical volumes.
Or LVM on top of mdadm.

Using LVM as JBOD is asking for trouble, of course.

Reco



Re: discover and install specific package version

2018-11-20 Thread Felix Miata
Eric Barault composed on 2018-11-19 22:22 (UTC+0100):

> have you tried this version? It worked for me on top of debian stretch-slim:
> https://snapshot.debian.org/archive/debian/20180701T205743Z/pool/main/f/firefox-esr/firefox-esr_52.9.0esr-1~deb9u1_amd64.deb

I hadn't, but it's now installed and working. Thank you very much!
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mysqld working fine but systemctl reports failed.

2018-11-20 Thread Bernie Elbourn

I am seeing potentially "false" errors in todays reboot on a jessie system...

Nov 20 09:51:40  /etc/init.d/mysql[1857]: #007/usr/bin/mysqladmin: connect 
to server at 'localhost' failed
Nov 20 09:51:40  /etc/init.d/mysql[1857]: error: 'Can't connect to local 
MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)'
Nov 20 09:51:40  /etc/init.d/mysql[1857]:
Nov 20 09:51:40  mysql[705]: Starting MySQL database server: mysqld . . . . 
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . failed!

Oddly databases seem to be running sweetly, and using systemctl to stop and 
start mysql work fine too:

systemctl status mysql
● mysql.service - LSB: Start and stop the mysql database server daemon
   Loaded: loaded (/etc/init.d/mysql)
   Active: active (running) since Tue 2018-11-20 11:12:44 GMT; 20min ago
  Process: 18953 ExecStop=/etc/init.d/mysql stop (code=exited, status=0/SUCCESS)
  Process: 18994 ExecStart=/etc/init.d/mysql start (code=exited, 
status=0/SUCCESS)
   CGroup: /system.slice/mysql.service
   ├─19021 /bin/sh /usr/bin/mysqld_safe
   └─19366 /usr/sbin/mysqld --basedir=/usr --datadir=/var/lib/mysql 
--plugin-dir=/usr/lib/mysql/plugin --user=...

Nov 20 11:12:44  mysql[18994]: Starting MySQL database server: mysqld ..
Nov 20 11:12:44  mysql[18994]: Checking for tables which need an upgrade, 
are corrupt or were
Nov 20 11:12:44  mysql[18994]: not closed cleanly..
Nov 20 11:12:44  systemd[1]: Started LSB: Start and stop the mysql database 
server daemon.

Incidentally systemd and mysql was upgraded prior to the reboot. The mysql update did take a long time  a few 
minutes ... but no errors reported.


Setting up mysql-client-5.5 (5.5.62-0+deb8u1) ...
Setting up mysql-server-core-5.5 (5.5.62-0+deb8u1) ...
Setting up mysql-server-5.5 (5.5.62-0+deb8u1) ...
Setting up mysql-server (5.5.62-0+deb8u1) ...
Setting up mysql-client (5.5.62-0+deb8u1) ..

All very perplexing ... one to ignore?

Thanks

Bernie



testing/buster: can't alter proxy settings during installation

2018-11-20 Thread Nils.Reichert
Hi

I'm installing buster on a VM within a network behind a proxy.
During installation I selected a Debian mirror and entered the proxy's IP and 
port but accidently omitted the beginning http:// .

Of course, fetching the packages database from the server failed. An error 
message stating »Unsupported proxy configured« was printed to syslog.
I selected »choose new mirror«, selected the mirror again, was asked for the 
proxy address again and now entered the correct address including http://. 
Fetching the package database still failed with the same error.

Rebooting and restarting the installation from scratch solved the problem. When 
I entered the correct proxy address right from the start it worked straight 
away. 


Steps to reproduce should be easy.
Seems like a minor bug but I can't say if it's in the installer or the proxy 
scripts.



Kindly
Nils


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Re: that other OS

2018-11-20 Thread Ric Moore

On 11/16/18 12:34 PM, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote:


I think it would be great if more people ditched Microsoft on the
desktop and went to alternatives, as it would force more software
vendors, service providers, etc., to at least acknowledge (if not fully
support) Linux, &co.

However, I am not going to hold my breath.



I've held mine since 1996 with a Slackware install from floppy disks. I 
worked for RedHat from 1999 to 2000 during the IPO era. Nothing but 
Linux evere since. However I cannot bear the pain any longer. I just 
want to watch a 3D movie on DVD. I sunk a small fortune into nVidia 
cards and 3D glasses hardware and Acer hot-rod monitors, with Gsync and 
3D Vision blazened on the front. None of this works and hasn't for 
several tears, acording to my google madness hunt.


Long story short, I bought a Win 10 install package. God heal my 
darkened soul. But, I'm going to use my computer to do things that 
here-to-for has been denied me! Our community has pissed on nVidia's 
shoes once too often. So, we're ignored on the 3D front. And wine 
doesn't cut it playing high-end game titles.


My computer shits lightening and farts thunder, so it's about time I 
woke up and used the damn thing for something more than Hunt-The-Wumpus. 
I Am going to watch a 3D movie with the shutter specs. I bought the DVD 
for $10 and $500 for better hardware.Heckuva note. Ric



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Re: that other OS

2018-11-20 Thread Ric Moore

On 11/16/18 6:31 PM, deloptes wrote:

James H. H. Lampert wrote:


Actually, I'd call WinDoze a DISservice.

(I don't allow WinDoze in my house.)


Be pragmatic. Even big crappy hammer can be useful someday, if you want to
smash something 


OK, now it can be TOLD! Enough years have passed so it should be OK. 
Back in 1999 the worst kept secret among employees at RedHat was the 
knowledge that there was one hidden computer, buried in the basement 
under heaps of cardboard boxes, that ran Windows in order to manage the 
automatic CD writing and printing machine. It refused to work under 
Linux and the CD's had to be created. There ya go, useful work. Ric



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"There are two Great Sins in the world...
..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity.
Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad.
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Re: that other OS

2018-11-20 Thread deloptes
Ric Moore wrote:

> I've held mine since 1996 with a Slackware install from floppy disks. I
> worked for RedHat from 1999 to 2000 during the IPO era. Nothing but
> Linux evere since. However I cannot bear the pain any longer. I just
> want to watch a 3D movie on DVD. I sunk a small fortune into nVidia
> cards and 3D glasses hardware and Acer hot-rod monitors, with Gsync and
> 3D Vision blazened on the front. None of this works and hasn't for
> several tears, acording to my google madness hunt.
> 
> Long story short, I bought a Win 10 install package. God heal my
> darkened soul. But, I'm going to use my computer to do things that
> here-to-for has been denied me! Our community has pissed on nVidia's
> shoes once too often. So, we're ignored on the 3D front. And wine
> doesn't cut it playing high-end game titles.
> 
> My computer shits lightening and farts thunder, so it's about time I
> woke up and used the damn thing for something more than Hunt-The-Wumpus.
> I Am going to watch a 3D movie with the shutter specs. I bought the DVD
> for $10 and $500 for better hardware.Heckuva note. Ric

This was a good story :D
ENJOY!



Re: Install & restore backup: what if I use LVM?

2018-11-20 Thread Pascal Hambourg

Le 20/11/2018 à 07:21, Johann Spies a écrit :


You can install LVM if you want, but it might be worth while to take
note that you loose all the data if the disk fails underneath.


How is that different from when using plain partitions ?
If the disk fails then partitions are lost too.



VLC doesn't shutdown when closed

2018-11-20 Thread Gary Dale
I'm running Debian/Buster with a Plasma 5 desktop. After I close a VLC 
session, the program continues to lurk in the process list until I send 
it the Kill signal. This is annoying because VLC stops the screen saver 
/ session locker from kicking in while it is active so I have to bring 
up the System Activity monitor to check for and kill all the VLC processes.


Note that just ending the process doesn't work. I need to send the Kill 
signal.




Re: VLC doesn't shutdown when closed

2018-11-20 Thread tomas
On Tue, Nov 20, 2018 at 08:29:18PM -0500, Gary Dale wrote:
> I'm running Debian/Buster with a Plasma 5 desktop. After I close a
> VLC session [...]

> Note that just ending the process doesn't work. I need to send the
> Kill signal.

Not a VLC user here, so take my advice with a fist of salt (or two),
but I think you might want to describe more precisely what you mean
by "close a VLC session" resp. "end the process". You close the
program's main window?

Cheers
-- tomás


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