Re: debootstrap error with dvdrom install
On Sat, 29 Jul 2017, Curt wrote: https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/9.1.0+nonfree/ thanks Curt, I used this one and it worked perfectly, except the last step, i.e. grub install: It actually installed grub, but at reboot I don't get the grub menu, but I still get Windows 10 (recognized by grub as "Windows Vista" !!) best regards, -- Pierre Frenkiel
Re: debootstrap error with dvdrom install
On Sat, 29 Jul 2017, Steve McIntyre wrote: You don't say exactly which image you're using, but this is clearly a bug. I'm *guessing* you're using a 9.0.x live image? The 9.1.0 images should work better... you are right, it was 9.0, as 9.1 was not available when I did the download. anyway, as I said in my previous post, my problem is now to get the grub menu at boot. May-be installing grub elsewhere than on the MBR will fix that? best regards, -- Pierre Frenkiel
Re: debootstrap error with dvdrom install
On 2017-07-30, Pierre Frenkiel wrote: > On Sat, 29 Jul 2017, Curt wrote: > >> https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/9.1.0+nonfree/ >> > >thanks Curt, > I used this one and it worked perfectly, except the last step, i.e. grub > install: > It actually installed grub, but at reboot I don't get the grub menu, but I > still get > Windows 10 (recognized by grub as "Windows Vista" !!) Perhaps the following is applicable to your case? https://wiki.debian.org/UEFI https://wiki.debian.org/GrubEFIReinstall > best regards, -- “Certitude is not the test of certainty.” --Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr.
Re: debootstrap error with dvdrom install
On Sun, 30 Jul 2017, Curt wrote: On 2017-07-30, Pierre Frenkiel wrote: On Sat, 29 Jul 2017, Curt wrote: https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/9.1.0+nonfree/ thanks Curt, I used this one and it worked perfectly, except the last step, i.e. grub install: It actually installed grub, but at reboot I don't get the grub menu, but I still get Windows 10 (recognized by grub as "Windows Vista" !!) Perhaps the following is applicable to your case? https://wiki.debian.org/UEFI https://wiki.debian.org/GrubEFIReinstall I'll check that when back at home, as I've reached my data quota best regards, -- Pierre Frenkiel
Unstable WiFi
Hello list,
I'm running Debian 9, and I'm having issues with WiFi being occasionally
unstable. It will run just fine for a while, but sometimes it will
suddenly fail.
/etc/network/interfaces:
> allow-hotplug wlo1
> iface wlo1 inet manual
> wpa-roam /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf
>
> # default wireless interface
> iface default inet dhcp
> openvpn-client chaos
>
> # home
> iface home inet static
> address 192.168.0.2/24
> gateway 192.168.0.1
> openvpn-client chaos
openvpn-client is just a modified version of
/etc/network/if-up.d/openvpn that uses openvpn-client@* units instead of
openvpn@*.
/etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf:
> ctrl_interface=DIR=/run/wpa_supplicant GROUP=netdev
> country=KR
then the network blocks, like so:
> network={
> ssid=""
> psk=""
> id_str="home"
> }
dmesg:
> [ 6919.168438] rt2x00mmio_regbusy_read() Indirect register access failed:
> offset=0x101c, value=0x
> [ 6921.211274] ieee80211 phy0: rt2x00queue_flush_queue: Warning - Queue 0
> failed to flush
> [ 6921.410607] ieee80211 phy0: rt2x00queue_flush_queue: Warning - Queue 2
> failed to flush
> [ 6921.813303] ieee80211 phy0: rt2x00queue_flush_queue: Warning - Queue 0
> failed to flush
> [ 6922.016635] ieee80211 phy0: rt2x00queue_flush_queue: Warning - Queue 2
> failed to flush
> [ 6922.215970] ieee80211 phy0: rt2x00queue_flush_queue: Warning - Queue 0
> failed to flush
> [ 6922.419375] ieee80211 phy0: rt2x00queue_flush_queue: Warning - Queue 2
> failed to flush
> [ 6926.407143] ieee80211 phy0: rt2x00queue_flush_queue: Warning - Queue 0
> failed to flush
> [ 6926.610495] ieee80211 phy0: rt2x00queue_flush_queue: Warning - Queue 2
> failed to flush
> [ 6926.857821] ieee80211 phy0: rt2x00queue_flush_queue: Warning - Queue 0
> failed to flush
> [ 6927.061267] ieee80211 phy0: rt2x00queue_flush_queue: Warning - Queue 2
> failed to flush
> [ 6928.433354] ieee80211 phy0: rt2800_wait_csr_ready: Error - Unstable
> hardware
lspci -vvv:
> 09:00.0 Network controller: Ralink corp. RT3290 Wireless 802.11n 1T/1R PCIe
> Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Ralink RT3290LE 802.11bgn 1x1 Wi-Fi
> and Bluetooth 4.0 Combo Adapter
> Control: I/O- Mem- BusMaster- SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr-
> Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx-
> Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=fast >TAbort- SERR-Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 16
> Region 0: [virtual] Memory at b251 (32-bit, non-prefetchable)
> [size=64K]
> Capabilities: [40] Power Management version 3
> Flags: PMEClk- DSI- D1- D2- AuxCurrent=375mA
> PME(D0+,D1-,D2-,D3hot+,D3cold-)
> Status: D0 NoSoftRst- PME-Enable- DSel=0 DScale=0 PME+
> Capabilities: [50] MSI: Enable- Count=1/32 Maskable- 64bit+
> Address: Data:
> Capabilities: [70] Express (v2) Endpoint, MSI 00
> DevCap: MaxPayload 128 bytes, PhantFunc 0, Latency L0s <128ns,
> L1 <2us
> ExtTag- AttnBtn- AttnInd- PwrInd- RBE+ FLReset-
> SlotPowerLimit 0.000W
> DevCtl: Report errors: Correctable- Non-Fatal- Fatal-
> Unsupported-
> RlxdOrd+ ExtTag- PhantFunc- AuxPwr- NoSnoop-
> MaxPayload 128 bytes, MaxReadReq 512 bytes
> DevSta: CorrErr+ UncorrErr- FatalErr- UnsuppReq+ AuxPwr-
> TransPend-
> LnkCap: Port #0, Speed 2.5GT/s, Width x1, ASPM L0s L1, Exit
> Latency L0s <512ns, L1 <64us
> ClockPM+ Surprise- LLActRep- BwNot- ASPMOptComp-
> LnkCtl: ASPM Disabled; RCB 64 bytes Disabled- CommClk-
> ExtSynch- ClockPM- AutWidDis- BWInt- AutBWInt-
> LnkSta: Speed 2.5GT/s, Width x1, TrErr- Train- SlotClk+
> DLActive- BWMgmt- ABWMgmt-
> DevCap2: Completion Timeout: Not Supported, TimeoutDis+, LTR-,
> OBFF Not Supported
> DevCtl2: Completion Timeout: 50us to 50ms, TimeoutDis-, LTR-,
> OBFF Disabled
> LnkCtl2: Target Link Speed: 2.5GT/s, EnterCompliance- SpeedDis-
>Transmit Margin: Normal Operating Range,
> EnterModifiedCompliance- ComplianceSOS-
>Compliance De-emphasis: -6dB
> LnkSta2: Current De-emphasis Level: -6dB,
> EqualizationComplete-, EqualizationPhase1-
>EqualizationPhase2-, EqualizationPhase3-,
> LinkEqualizationRequest-
> Capabilities: [100 v1] Advanced Error Reporting
> UESta: DLP- SDES- TLP- FCP- CmpltTO+ CmpltAbrt- UnxCmplt-
> RxOF- MalfTLP- ECRC- UnsupReq+ ACSViol-
> UEMsk: DLP- SDES- TLP- FCP- CmpltTO- CmpltAbrt- UnxCmplt-
> RxOF- MalfTLP- ECRC- UnsupReq- ACSViol-
> UESvrt: DLP+ SDES+ TLP- FCP+ CmpltTO- CmpltAbrt- UnxCmplt-
> RxOF+ MalfTLP+ ECRC- UnsupReq- ACSViol-
> CESta: RxErr+ BadTLP- BadDLLP+ Rollover+ Timeout+ NonFatalErr+
>
Re: Yes you have standing to sue GRSecurity.
ni...@redchan.it wrote: > I needed to highlight some things in the text so one's eyes don't bleed > out reading it. > > Some variation here and there. > > But the key is you have individual standing to sue. You don't have to > ask the free software conservancy or the linux foundation permission. > And you should not rest on your rights. Thank you for the professional and very meaningful explanation. I indeed thing it was necessary and helpful and disagree with what tomas stated. @tomas the shit smells already so it doesn't matter what you do, it won't get better and not everyone has the time to get a legal overview such that nisus provided. In fact your comment on his mail is in my opinion obsolete as you are stepping in position to judge ones post in the name of all readers. regards
Re: Yes you have standing to sue GRSecurity.
to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > That's what I was trying to say: while some of the things in his/her > post may be correct, the way they are brought about seems to aim at > spreading hate and chaos instead of at finding a good solution. > >> Just don't feed him here :-) > > Agreed. Again the moral judge ... guys come down. As nisus wrote the target of the mail is developers ... where do you see feeding and why you are focused so much on this. You don't want this being discussed in that way on the list? Might be you are right, but so far I have not read anything that stupid on the subject. And in fact the first time one writes something useful and professional you hit the fingers :) I just want to say that you could have spared the comments exactly this time in this mailthread. regards
kernel errors only showing on reboot - nouveau & tpm_crb
Every time that I reboot this shows up in my daily logwatch - --8<---cut here---start->8--- WARNING: Kernel Errors Present intel-lpss: probe of :00:1e.0 failed with error -22 ...: 2 Time(s) nouveau: probe of :01:00.0 failed with error -12 ...: 2 Time(s) tpm_crb: probe of MSFT0101:00 failed with error -16 ...: 2 Time(s) --8<---cut here---end--->8--- According to dmidecode my CPU is -'Version: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-7500 CPU @ 3.40GHz' so I would guess that I do need 'intel-lpss' but not need anything 'nouveau*'? Is that correct please? But what about 'tpm_crb'? I've done 'lsmod | grep tpm' and 'dmesg | grep -w tpm' and 'dmesg | grep -i tpm' but nothing is showing up, so I'm guessing that I don't need 'tpm_crb' either, am I correct? I've been using [fn:1] as a guide for me to investigate TPM. I'm sorry if it seems like I'm asking very basic questions, but I just want to be sure that I'm not going to ask my machine to commit suicide by me actually removing them! Thanks Sharon. [Fn:1] https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/341629/how-to-determine-if-computer-has-tpm-trusted-platform-module-available -- A taste of linux = http://www.sharons.org.uk TGmeds = http://www.tgmeds.org.uk DrugFacts = https://www.drugfacts.org.uk Debian 9.0, fluxbox 1.3.5-2, emacs 25.1.1, org-mode 9.0.9 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Yes you have standing to sue GRSecurity.
Hi, deloptes wrote: > not everyone has the time to get a legal overview such that nisus provided. I beg your pardon. But that "legal overview" is trivial and off topic here. Firstly, the GRSecurity issue is discussed more than enough by the people whom it concerns, namely those who contributed copyrightable material to the Linux kernel code, which GRSecurity takes as base for its work. I doubt that many people on this list have earned the merit of adding the own copyright to the kernel. Those who have, will be well aware whether they are affected by this issue. Secondly, enforcing the GPL is a matter of thorough thought, good planning, excellent legal advice, and a solid piece of luck in court. Shouting a hysteric "you-can-do-too" message is not helping in any way. And finally, i suspect that the whole GRSecurity issue is currently in the focus of lawyers who want to sue somebody regardless of the facts or their legal entitlement. I don't say that the GRSecurity issue should not be assessed by law courts. But i say that it shall not fall victim to crooked lawyers. The disputable point about GRSecurity's stance is that they claim to provide the patches under GPL but threaten to end a customer's subscription if that customer makes use of the freedom to distribute copies. At least if the end of this article represents them correctly: https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/04/26/grsecurity_linux_kernel_freeloaders/ But hey, nobody needs GRSecurity to run Linux. The best way to deal with this is to stay away from any pseudo-GPL'ed software. We have a clear statement from the nexus, on which we all trust when using a Linux kernel: http://lkml.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/1706.2/06228.html "Don't bother with grsecurity." - Linus Torvalds Have a nice day :) Thomas
Re: Yes you have standing to sue GRSecurity.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, Jul 30, 2017 at 12:14:53PM +0200, deloptes wrote: > ni...@redchan.it wrote: > > > I needed to highlight some things in the text so one's eyes don't bleed > > out reading it. > > > > Some variation here and there. > > > > But the key is you have individual standing to sue. You don't have to > > ask the free software conservancy or the linux foundation permission. > > And you should not rest on your rights. > > Thank you for the professional and very meaningful explanation. I indeed > thing it was necessary and helpful and disagree with what tomas stated. > > @tomas the shit smells already so it doesn't matter what you do, it won't > get better and not everyone has the time to get a legal overview such that > nisus provided. > In fact your comment on his mail is in my opinion obsolete as you are > stepping in position to judge ones post in the name of all readers. Sigh. I don't know whether you are trolling or not, but I'll go with Hanlon's razor and assume you are not. The OP's position is well-known: in the Linux kernel, any contributor has a standing to defend her/his rights, since the copyrights are with the respective code "owner". This has repeatedly passed the "court test"; one example is Harald Welte's activity. So nothing new *in content* here. What I take issue with, and strongly, is the form: the free software community at large tends, and for a good reason, to take a careful position: first give infringers a chance to come into compliance, then, if nothing helps, perhaps take legal action. The main aim is to bring people into compliance, and that phase takes a while (years). Shouting around and stirring bad feelings doesn't help. In the case of GRSecurity, it's important to keep in mind that they have (despite the very problematic attitude) done important contributions which actually landed in the kernel (thanks to the often thankless work of the likes of Kees Cook). So there you have it. Redchannel and MikeeUSA are troubleseekers -- they show up where there's conflict and do whatever seems best to kindle the flames. They are not helpful. And if they are the same, as Ansgar suggested, the worse. They don't contribute anything to the greater good, and have, I think, a different agenda. This is my opinion, and I hope y'all read it as critically as you should read anything. Regards - -- tomás -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAll90b4ACgkQBcgs9XrR2kaQQQCfQTrzyoei7AZB4XhqhY3FSCN7 D54An1uVLEHWuLCjfOvnfjAyQ6idAd2e =v9Yy -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Stretch: xfce and xscreensaver
On Sat, 29 Jul 2017 19:49:46 -0500 David Wright wrote: > On Sat 29 Jul 2017 at 07:57:49 (-0700), Patrick Bartek wrote: > > On Fri, 28 Jul 2017 22:08:41 -0500 David Wright > > wrote: > > > > > On Thu 27 Jul 2017 at 14:18:47 (-0700), Patrick Bartek wrote: > > > > > On Thu, Jul 27, 2017 at 07:35:24AM -0700, Patrick Bartek > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > Or do what I did: dispense with a screensaver entirely. > > > > > > Haven't used one in years. Waste of CPU cycles. Besides > > > > > > modern computer screens don't even need them anymore. They > > > > > > aren't prone to image burning like tube-type monitors > > > > > > were. I just use xset or a power management utility, if > > > > > > installed, to "sleep" the monitor display after a set time > > > > > > of system idleness. Works great. > > > > > > […] > > > > > > > I lock my screen manually, too. Much of my work involves > > > > studying what's on the screen without any input. It's an > > > > annoyance when it "blanks" and I have to log back in disrupting > > > > my train of thought. > > > > > > As you use xset, can't you just define a key to set a really long > > > timeout like xset dpms 9000 9000 9000 ; xset s 9000 9000 > > > to prevent it blanking? (And one to revert if you feel the need.) > > > > I set xset for 20 minutes . . . 12000. > > (That's 200 minutes.) Sorry. Typo. 1200, not 12000. > > Works well 98% of the > > time. Never looked at the s option. > > That could be your problem then. What I meant was that 20 minutes before the monitor is powered down by xset is long enough. In that time, 98% of the time, I always input something to cancel "blanking." > > But it looks like it's for > > overridding a screensaver which I don't use or even have installed. > > I believe X has a screensaver built in. From man xset I was not aware of this. In all my studies, reading and using Linux over the past 17 years did I ever come across any mention of a built-in X screensaver. (Doesn't mean there's not one.) > s The s option lets you set the screen saver parameters. I read that, too, but thought it applied to a system screensaver like xscreensaver, etc. It was just a cursory read anyway as all I wanted from xset was to power off the monitor. > You can check it out by typing xset s 5 5 I'll reread the s option with new insight. But I really prefer the monitor being powered down instead of using a screensaver, since my system runs 24/7 and it's in my bedroom. A 24" monitor makes an awfully bright nightlight. ;-) B
Re: Yes you have standing to sue GRSecurity.
to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > This is my opinion, and I hope y'all read it as critically as > you should read anything. I appreciate and value your opinion, but as so much was written here regarding this subject I find the legal clarification in place. It saves one (like me) a lot of digging in the subject to get an overview. In this sense the intention of nisus was ok so far. But I understand your point and agree. regards
Re: Stretch: xfce and xscreensaver
On 07/30/2017 10:29 AM, Patrick Bartek wrote: I'll reread the s option with new insight. But I really prefer the monitor being powered down instead of using a screensaver, since my system runs 24/7 and it's in my bedroom. A 24" monitor makes an awfully bright nightlight. ;-) VLC will kill the xscreensaver. Ric -- My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say: "There are two Great Sins in the world... ..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity. Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad. http://linuxcounter.net/user/44256.html
Re: Yes you have standing to sue GRSecurity.
Le duodi 12 thermidor, an CCXXV, deloptes a écrit : > I appreciate and value your opinion, but as so much was written here > regarding this subject I find the legal clarification in place. It saves > one (like me) a lot of digging in the subject to get an overview. In this > sense the intention of nisus was ok so far. How do you know you can trust that "legal clarification" better than what any of us could have written? I do not have any legal training, and I know approximatively what is written in the first message, but you would be wrong to take my opinion at face value. Have you checked « ni...@redchan.it »'s credentials as an attorney? Regards, -- Nicolas George signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Stretch: xfce and xscreensaver
On 07/30/2017 08:29 AM, Patrick Bartek wrote: ... > I'll reread the s option with new insight. But I really prefer the > monitor being powered down instead of using a screensaver, since my > system runs 24/7 and it's in my bedroom. A 24" monitor makes an awfully > bright nightlight. ;-) I used to use one of these: xset -display :0.0 dpms force suspend xset -display :0.0 dpms force off Now I use xfce power manager from the gui. Good luck! Ralph signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Yes you have standing to sue GRSecurity.
Nicolas George wrote: > How do you know you can trust that "legal clarification" better than > what any of us could have written? I do not have any legal training, and > I know approximatively what is written in the first message, but you > would be wrong to take my opinion at face value. > > Have you checked « ni...@redchan.it »'s credentials as an attorney? > > Regards, Why do you think I trust you or him? I mean - every one can put forward a proposition. The statement was clear and from argumentative point of you OK. It was definitely informative. I do not take it as granted but as a fair stand point - same as your statement. There is a lot the community could do, but it spends time being and arguing about political correctness and trying to bring all parties together etc ... if those guys are too far right, you are too far left - IMO. regards
how to run a second copy of firefox in a separate address space with no connection to the first?
I would like to run a second copy of firefox in debian, that is completely unconnected to the first. That is, the second copy should not share history, cookies, any kind of storage, passwords, configuration, or anything else with the first. It should be possible to send a signal to one (such as kill) without the other being aware of it. In essence it should run parallel to firefox like a clone (e.g., Pale Moon), except using the same binary. (But i'd be willing to copy the binary if there were an easy way to just change its name to firefox2 or something.) I suppose that i could do this with a virtual machine bur that seems very heavy weight. TIA for any clues on how to do this! dan
Re: how to run a second copy of firefox in a separate address space with no connection to the first?
Dan Hitt wrote: > I would like to run a second copy of firefox in debian, that is > completely unconnected to the first. > That is, the second copy should not share history, cookies, any kind > of storage, passwords, configuration, or anything else with the first. > It should be possible to send a signal to one (such as kill) without > the other being aware of it. > In essence it should run parallel to firefox like a clone (e.g., Pale > Moon), except using the same binary. (But i'd be willing to copy the > binary if there were an easy way to just change its name to firefox2 > or something.) Make a new user on your system, and start firefox as that user via sudo, adding the option "--no-remote" to the firefox command line. You might need to add Defaultsenv_reset,env_keep+="DISPLAY XAUTHORITY" to your /etc/sudoers to allow any programm running as the other user access to your X session. Grüße, Sven. -- Sigmentation fault. Core dumped.
Re: how to run a second copy of firefox in a separate address space with no connection to the first?
Le 07/30/17 à 20:47, Dan Hitt a écrit : > I would like to run a second copy of firefox in debian, that is > completely unconnected to the first. > > That is, the second copy should not share history, cookies, any kind > of storage, passwords, configuration, or anything else with the first. > It should be possible to send a signal to one (such as kill) without > the other being aware of it. > > In essence it should run parallel to firefox like a clone (e.g., Pale > Moon), except using the same binary. (But i'd be willing to copy the > binary if there were an easy way to just change its name to firefox2 > or something.) > > I suppose that i could do this with a virtual machine bur that seems > very heavy weight. > > TIA for any clues on how to do this! > > dan > You can define another profile then use firefox -P profile I use it adding -no-remote because I do not want the links automatically opened to open in this instance.
Re: Yes you have standing to sue GRSecurity.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, Jul 30, 2017 at 05:58:54PM +0200, deloptes wrote: > to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > This is my opinion, and I hope y'all read it as critically as > > you should read anything. > > I appreciate and value your opinion, but as so much was written here > regarding this subject I find the legal clarification in place. It saves > one (like me) a lot of digging in the subject to get an overview. In this > sense the intention of nisus was ok so far. > > But I understand your point and agree. OK, thanks regards - -- t -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAll+ONkACgkQBcgs9XrR2kas7QCggDuKLCjMZ/tzB1/ejXqZJ6D6 hVUAnRprnaCVrGiEbtOIds/TWvxMmldL =qgNI -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: how to run a second copy of firefox in a separate address space with no connection to the first?
On 2017-07-30, Erwan David wrote: > Le 07/30/17 à 20:47, Dan Hitt a écrit : >> I would like to run a second copy of firefox in debian, that is >> completely unconnected to the first. >> >> That is, the second copy should not share history, cookies, any kind >> of storage, passwords, configuration, or anything else with the first. >> It should be possible to send a signal to one (such as kill) without >> the other being aware of it. >> >> In essence it should run parallel to firefox like a clone (e.g., Pale >> Moon), except using the same binary. (But i'd be willing to copy the >> binary if there were an easy way to just change its name to firefox2 >> or something.) >> >> I suppose that i could do this with a virtual machine bur that seems >> very heavy weight. >> >> TIA for any clues on how to do this! >> >> dan >> > > You can define another profile then use > firefox -P profile Yes, that's the way to go. > I use it adding -no-remote because I do not want the links automatically > opened to open in this instance. > I'm not quite following here. -no-remote allows you to run multiple Firefox instances simultaneously (profile1 and profile2 at the same time, let's say). However you cannot open external links in the -no-remote instance (link in an email, for example--perhaps that's what you mean by "do not want the links automatically opened to open in this instance"). I could imagine this restriction being prohibitive in some cases, and Sven's suggestion, which at first reading I thought unnecessarily complicated, might then be taken into account. -- “Certitude is not the test of certainty.” --Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr.
Re: Yes you have standing to sue GRSecurity.
On Sun 30 Jul 2017 at 20:33:50 +0200, deloptes wrote: With apologies to Ansgar Burchard https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2017/07/msg01524.html (who was spot-on with his assessment) and anyone else who sees this thread as completely off-topic for -user. > Nicolas George wrote: > > > How do you know you can trust that "legal clarification" better than > > what any of us could have written? I do not have any legal training, and > > I know approximatively what is written in the first message, but you > > would be wrong to take my opinion at face value. > > > > Have you checked « ni...@redchan.it »'s credentials as an attorney? > > > > Regards, > > Why do you think I trust you or him? I mean - every one can put forward a > proposition. Everyone can spam numerous mailing lists; they don't. Everyone can lie and claim to be an attorney; they don't. Everyone can make an effort to hide their identity; they don't. Everyone can resurrect a topic which has received previous exposure on -user; they don't. Everyone can start an email with a pompous "It has come to my attention"; they don't. Everyone can write a mail looking like they know what they are talking about and inudate mailing lists about it; they don't. Everyone can be inconsiderate, unthinking, self-centred, rude, unthinking, foolish, uninformed or lacking in nouse when posting to debian-user. The OP has managed all of these simultaneously. Anyone can can put forward a proposition on -user. That does not mean it needs to be taken as requiring a response. Trusting the OP as a person of integrity requires a feat of the imagination. Some appear to possess it. > The statement was clear and from argumentative point of you > OK. It was definitely informative. I do not take it as granted but as a > fair stand point - same as your statement. > > There is a lot the community could do, but it spends time being and arguing > about political correctness and trying to bring all parties together > etc ... if those guys are too far right, you are too far left - IMO. This mailing list thankfully spends most of its time trying to help users. It suceeds in many, many ways. If this is on the left - put me there rather than with the bonkers posters. -- Brian.
Re: how to run a second copy of firefox in a separate address space with no connection to the first?
On 30 July 2017 at 22:05, Curt wrote: > > I'm not quite following here. -no-remote allows you to run multiple > Firefox instances simultaneously (profile1 and profile2 at the same > time, let's say). However you cannot open external links in the > -no-remote instance (link in an email, for example--perhaps that's what > you mean by "do not want the links automatically opened to open in this > instance"). Curt, have a look at the following page that explains -no-remote and other command line options in more detail: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/Command_Line_Options -- rpr.
Missing HDMI display
Ok, guys. I'm working on getting Debian 9.1 with Gnome DEfully functional with a new laptop. A couple of the issues have been addressed already, and fixed. The next issue is a missing HDMI output. I'm running a very new HP Pavilion Power laptop (model number 15- cb045wm with core i7-7700 CPU, Intel Kabylake HD Graphics GT2, and NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 GPU. The laptop has an HDMI connector on the side, and it works with Windows 10. However, the HDMI display does not show up under linux. The HDMI output does show up under Pulseaudio, though it appears to be non-functional, i.e., when I set the configuration up for HDMI output, nothing comes out through the HDMI connection. I have no real idea how to troubleshoot this issue, and suspect that this system may be new enough that the drivers have not caught up with the chipset, and so I may be out of luck for a little while. I have searched the debian-user list archive and found nothing that appeared to be useful. Any information one of you Gurus might have will be appreciated. Thanks in advance. -- 73s de Mike, WB5VQX
Re: Stretch: xfce and xscreensaver
On Sun, 30 Jul 2017 12:51:51 -0400 Ric Moore wrote: > On 07/30/2017 10:29 AM, Patrick Bartek wrote: > > > I'll reread the s option with new insight. But I really prefer the > > monitor being powered down instead of using a screensaver, since my > > system runs 24/7 and it's in my bedroom. A 24" monitor makes an > > awfully bright nightlight. ;-) > > VLC will kill the xscreensaver. Ric Thanks. Good to know. B
Re: Stretch: xfce and xscreensaver
On Sun, 30 Jul 2017 12:20:33 -0600 Ralph Katz wrote: > On 07/30/2017 08:29 AM, Patrick Bartek wrote: > ... > > I'll reread the s option with new insight. But I really prefer the > > monitor being powered down instead of using a screensaver, since my > > system runs 24/7 and it's in my bedroom. A 24" monitor makes an > > awfully bright nightlight. ;-) > > I used to use one of these: > xset -display :0.0 dpms force suspend > xset -display :0.0 dpms force off > > Now I use xfce power manager from the gui. Thanks for the additional xset info. I haven't fully explored all its options. Just set it up 4 years or so ago to power off the monitor, and never changed it. I abandoned the desktop environment about 5 years ago. A window manager, a single panel with menus, etc. is all I need. B
Re: how to run a second copy of firefox in a separate address space with no connection to the first?
Curt wrote: > I could imagine this restriction being prohibitive in some cases, and > Sven's suggestion, which at first reading I thought unnecessarily > complicated, might then be taken into account. To be fair: I hadn't even thought about multiple profiles. I've been using Netscape Navigator and Firefox for such a long time, the existance of multiple profiles is still "new" to me and I constantly forget about it. Grüße, Sven. -- Sigmentation fault. Core dumped.
Re: how to run a second copy of firefox in a separate address space with no connection to the first?
Sven Hartge composed on 2017-07-30 23:29 (UTC+0200): > Curt wrote: >> I could imagine this restriction being prohibitive in some cases, and >> Sven's suggestion, which at first reading I thought unnecessarily >> complicated, might then be taken into account. > To be fair: I hadn't even thought about multiple profiles. > I've been using Netscape Navigator and Firefox for such a long time, the > existance of multiple profiles is still "new" to me and I constantly > forget about it. I've been using multiple profiles since long before Firefox existed. I find it easier to include 'export MOZ_NO_REMOTE=1' in ~/.profile than remembering whether --noremote or -no-remote --no-remote or -noremote is the applicable startup switch for use with test profiles or binaries. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/
Buckley's family donated him to a dog laboratory
Some people dismiss animal exploitation by saying things like, "Yeah, it sucks how they're treated, but meh-don't really care!" They've convinced themselves that they don't have the capacity to worry about animal abuse. They usually admit that they don't agree with it, but they accept it because "that's the way it is." I'm calling bullshit. That's just a defense mechanism. If people were actually to take a minute to acknowledge the reality of exploited animals and consider their unfathomable suffering and profound misery, they know it would break their hearts and they might even lose sleep over it. What they might not know is that it's worth it. When people allow themselves to be empathetic, wonderful things can happen. Opening ourselves to what others experience makes us better friends, partners, colleagues, citizens, and people. The good news is that everyone already has empathy naturally. All we need to do is help people tap into theirs. Join Our #BoycottSeaWorld Movement akara knew her father, Kotar, until she was 3. That's when a gate closed on his head and crushed his skull. She bonded with her mother, Kasatka, for 12 years, but then they were permanently separated. And just recently, Taraka's 3-month-old baby, Kyara, died. SeaWorld couldn't be any worse-#BoycottSeaWorld. http://www2.peta.org/site/R?i=c9QfZFFBzY_PzFvvM24NHg A Trophy Hunter Just Killed Cecil's Son It's hard to believe that a majestic family of lions could be destroyed by just two people's greed-but it's even harder to believe that an entire company openly supports callous people like those who killed Cecil and his son. Protect wild animals from tragic deaths by telling UPS to stop shipping their body parts. http://www2.peta.org/site/R?i=i-BjNq43SBZC6gYOyLzw1g Buckley: A Sick Spaniel's Life of Experiments At 6 months old, Buckley's family discovered he had muscular dystrophy (MD). Probably trying to help him, they donated him to a MD dog laboratory After years of barren cages, painful experiments, and no love, Buckley died. This is animal experimentation-show everyone why it's wrong. http://www2.peta.org/site/R?i=JZ1qYTXkdU3oe69x6DpxUQ Skinned Animals Live for Up to 10 Minutes Thanks to modern technology, we can all see exactly how animals are tortured on fur farms, and we can buy high-quality vegan fur. So why is Century 21 Department Store acting like a medieval furrier who has yet to discover the internet? Tell Century 21 to get out of the Dark Ages and STOP selling fur. http://www2.peta.org/site/R?i=fcDm9FAZJILx4YeBQliiDQ Albertsons Treats Animals Like Garbage The retailer admitted that glue traps are inhumane and stopped selling them. But now, it's selling them again. Hey, Albertsons, have you heard the news? Glue traps are still inhumane. Tell the store to stop profiting from torture devices made for small animals. http://www2.peta.org/site/R?i=5OHeMGnqtqBgm2l0AfvDHA Tweet Your FURY @ Songbird Experimenter Speaking of inhumane, this experimenter sicko captures songbirds from the wild, traps them in a laboratory, and does stress experiments on them before she kills them. We thought you might have a few words for her Tell her what you think of her cruel experiments. http://www2.peta.org/site/R?i=w15MUpVZSso6JkZfIu_wQQ #IfCowsCouldTweet, This Is What They'd Say Female cows on dairy farms are impregnated, torn away from their babies, rigorously pumped, and violently slaughtered. Let that sink in How do you think it makes them feel? What would you say if this happened to you? Tweet it! Speak up for mothers cows abused for dairy foods by speaking as them on Twitter. http://www2.peta.org/site/R?i=VzD-j5IoHfYHR9GpzU5bCw Bed Bath and Beyond: Stop Selling Down If you found out that you were supporting an industry in which workers ripped handfuls of feathers out of live birds, wouldn't you immediately stop it? Congratulations, friend-you're normal. Bed Bath & Beyond is being weird, though. Stand up for birds by telling it to stop selling down. http://www2.peta.org/site/R?i=rZ0oH4FYGoLb8KcuD73ToQ Milk: It's Baby Food ... for COWS Do you wear onesies every day? Do you like eating mushed-up peas and carrots? If you answered, "No," you're probably not a baby and have no reason to eat food meant for baby cows-aka "milk." Save cows from pain and death by reminding everyone that milk is for babies. http://www2.peta.org/site/R?i=PGLuVoM2OSLz2bZyfRWs4A peta2 SeaWorld Sucks Unisex T-Shirt http://www2.peta.org/site/R?i=2In0WAQQRJFf4m-HmPV5Dw If people try to tell you that animal abuse doesn't bother them, don't believe it. Hit them with something like this: "So you're saying it doesn't bother you that mother cows on dairy farms cry as workers drag their babies away and load them into trucks, because they know they'll never see each other again?" You'll usually find that most people do care-they just don't know it yet. Stay loud, Michelle Feinberg Senior Advocacy Strategist
Re: Missing HDMI display
Michael Milliman composed on 2017-07-30 15:32 (UTC-0500): > Ok, guys. I'm working on getting Debian 9.1 with Gnome DEfully > functional with a new laptop. A couple of the issues have been > addressed already, and fixed. The next issue is a missing HDMI output. > I'm running a very new HP Pavilion Power laptop (model number 15- > cb045wm with core i7-7700 CPU, Intel Kabylake HD Graphics GT2, and > NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 GPU. The laptop has an HDMI connector on the > side, and it works with Windows 10. However, the HDMI display does not > show up under linux. The HDMI output does show up under Pulseaudio, > though it appears to be non-functional, i.e., when I set the > configuration up for HDMI output, nothing comes out through the HDMI > connection. I have no real idea how to troubleshoot this issue, and > suspect that this system may be new enough that the drivers have not > caught up with the chipset, and so I may be out of luck for a little > while. > I have searched the debian-user list archive and found nothing that > appeared to be useful. Any information one of you Gurus might have > will be appreciated. Sounds to me like your key search terms should have been 'linux hybrid graphics' or 'debian hybrid graphics', and you don't have any of the possible candidates installed. https://wiki.debian.org/Bumblebee looks like a place to start. These should be useful even though not intended for Debian: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/PRIME https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/NVIDIA_Optimus -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/
Re: Yes you have standing to sue GRSecurity.
On Mon, Jul 31, 2017 at 3:33 AM, deloptes wrote: > Nicolas George wrote: > >> How do you know you can trust that "legal clarification" better than >> what any of us could have written? I do not have any legal training, and >> I know approximatively what is written in the first message, but you >> would be wrong to take my opinion at face value. >> >> Have you checked « ni...@redchan.it »'s credentials as an attorney? >> >> Regards, > > Why do you think I trust you or him? I mean - every one can put forward a > proposition. The statement was clear and from argumentative point of you > OK. It was definitely informative. I do not take it as granted but as a > fair stand point - same as your statement. > > There is a lot the community could do, but it spends time being and arguing > about political correctness and trying to bring all parties together > etc ... if those guys are too far right, you are too far left - IMO. > > regards One thing that might be worth saying here: Partial truths are sometimes more damaging than outright lies. Specifically, GRSecurity is, in fact, misusing the GPL in a way which we do not want to see becoming common. This is the part the troll is quite willing to tell. What the troll is not telling is that they are doing so in response to certain parties who are in flagrant violation of the GPL, specifically regarding their (GrSecurity's) contributions. (And have a record of other, more general violations.) Since the original offenders seem to be more willing to throw lawyers and legal filings at the problem than simply come into compliance regarding their use of GRSecurities patches, I would question the motives of the trolls. Frankly, the large corporations who are doing this with GRSecurity have no logical reason to be so recalcitrant. The old expression, "Cutting off their noses to spite their own faces," seems to apply. If the patches are useful, they should be willing to support the source of the patches. And if the patches are useful, they should be willing to help their customers keep their firewalls and other infrastructure equipment up-to-date. We may not support GRSecurity's questionable methods, but we may well decide we should boycott the companies who induced GRSecurity's stance. If you want to know who those companies are, you can find out pretty quickly by searching the web. -- Joel Rees One of these days I'll get someone to pay me to design a language that combines the best of Forth and C. Then I'll be able to leap wide instruction sets with a single #ifdef, run faster than a speeding infinite loop with a #define, and stop all integer size bugs with my bare cast. http://defining-computers.blogspot.com/2017/06/reinventing-computers.html More of my delusions: http://reiisi.blogspot.com/2017/05/do-not-pay-modern-danegeld-ransomware.html http://reiisi.blogspot.jp/p/novels-i-am-writing.html
mpop - download just one single email (or a batch of 10) and stop/ exit?
Does anyone know if mpop can be used to download just a single email, or a batch of say 10 emails, and then stop or exit? This would be useful when my boondocks internet is shaped and the emails have piled up, and I just want to download a few whilst leaving the rest to be downloaded later. TIA,
best practices for a fresh install on a laptop
Hi all, I've recently had discussions with new users at various events who were installing Debian for the first time, usually on laptops. It is easy enough to run the installer and get Debian up and running. However, if the user is security conscious, or will be travelling to events and passing through hostile airport/border checkpoints, are there any extra suggestions about how the laptop could be setup? For example, should they use the default disk encryption strategy proposed by the Debian installer, or another strategy? Or should they be considering a derivative or something else? Another question that comes up when I have this discussion with new users, they want to reduce their dependence on cloud services, so what is the currently recommended way to sync or replicate content from their laptop disk for backup purposes? While I have various ways of doing this as a developer, what is proposed for non-developers? Regards, Daniel
