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Re: shutdown fails to power off host
On 5 January 2017 at 09:09, Bob McGowan wrote: > On 01/04/2017 10:59 PM, Bob McGowan wrote: > > I have done a search of the debian-user archive, using the same text as > > the subject, and found several references to emails with similar > > problems. However, no exact solution was proposed. > > > > And this actually only happens on one of the two systems I have Debian > > installed on. > > > > I'm using testing (stretch). > > > > When I shutdown my desktop system, the screen displays messages from > > systemd (I presume), the last of which is "Reached target Shutdown". > > > I get that when I use 'sudo halt' When I use 'sudo halt -p' it powers off. So I would suggest you look at the underlying command on the button of the computer which do not power off and change the command. Look at 'man shutdown' for the options when you use 'shutdown' in stead of 'halt'. Regards Johann
Re: erroer
On 24 December 2016 at 13:45, SUMIT KUMAR wrote: > sulogin:root account is locked,starting shell what is the fux of this error > I do not quite understand your expression but maybe the error is related to what was described in https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2009/05/msg01538.html Regards Johann -- Because experiencing your loyal love is better than life itself, my lips will praise you. (Psalm 63:3)
Re: shutdown fails to power off host
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 11:35:28AM +0200, Johann Spies wrote: > On 5 January 2017 at 09:09, Bob McGowan wrote: > > > On 01/04/2017 10:59 PM, Bob McGowan wrote: > > > I have done a search of the debian-user archive, using the same text as > > > the subject, and found several references to emails with similar > > > problems. However, no exact solution was proposed. > > > > > > And this actually only happens on one of the two systems I have Debian > > > installed on. > > > > > > I'm using testing (stretch). > > > > > > When I shutdown my desktop system, the screen displays messages from > > > systemd (I presume), the last of which is "Reached target Shutdown". > > > > > > > I get that when I use 'sudo halt' > > When I use 'sudo halt -p' it powers off. "halt" is "shutdown" -- at least from where you are shooting. From halt's man page: If halt or reboot is called when the system is not in runlevel 0 or 6, in other words when it's running normally, shutdown will be invoked instead (with the -h or -r flag). For more info see the shutdown(8) manpage. > So I would suggest you look at the underlying command on the button of the > computer which do not power off and change the command. > > Look at 'man shutdown' for the options when you use 'shutdown' in stead > of 'halt'. I agree, it should be in the options. That said, one of the systems I take care of *sometimes* ends up in this state (i.e. "Reached target ..."), but most of the time actually powers off. Since it's a desktop I told the users that it's safe to power off the thing when in this state and filed it under "unsolved hardware/init system quirks". regards - -- tomás -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlh98ooACgkQBcgs9XrR2kYHnwCdEUocDUqU6+ZCEKaVwVnhFRp0 yFwAn2t/TFQNikQsV+Y+79RWUWXr7Xp0 =7fMt -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: shutdown fails to power off host
I remember this discussion from sime time ago. Debian has changed a real poweroff from "halt" to "halt -p". The second one is according to the manual. As far as I remeber, "shutdown" is just a wrapper fpr the halt command, but I am not quite sure. But one thing was cleared: To poweroff a debian systenm, the command "halt -p" is recommended. Besides: This behaviour is also now in kali linux integrated, which was also using the command "halt" for a long time. But now it's "halt -p", too, also on the livefile. Best Hans
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LXDE lost menus
Hi all, it looks like there is a bug in famous LXDE. After an update all menus are gone. There is already filed a bugreport to kali-linux, but I want to mention it for debian, too. If LXDE users did not not notice it, then it is because of cached files. If you move ~/.cache/* away, then the menus are not rebuild again. WARNING: For testing backup the cached files, so you can return them back, otherwise it will brick your LXDE. Do the LXDE developers know of this? Shall we file another bugreport to the LXDE maintainers? Best regards Hans
Re: shutdown fails to power off host
On 2017-01-17, wrote: > > Since it's a desktop I told the users that it's safe to power off the thing > when in this state and filed it under "unsolved hardware/init system quirks". I suffer from one of these unsolved quirks. Occasionally my machine will shutdown correctly but will not power off. I have detected no discernible pattern (or discerned no detectable pattern). I power the machine off manually when the quirk occurs. > regards > - -- tomás > > -- “It is enough that the arrows fit exactly in the wounds that they have made.” Franz Kafka
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Re: shutdown fails to power off host
On Tue, 17 Jan 2017 18:00:00 + (UTC) Curt wrote: > On 2017-01-17, wrote: > > > > Since it's a desktop I told the users that it's safe to power off > > the thing when in this state and filed it under "unsolved > > hardware/init system quirks". > > I suffer from one of these unsolved quirks. Occasionally my machine > will shutdown correctly but will not power off. I have detected no > discernible pattern (or discerned no detectable pattern). > > I power the machine off manually when the quirk occurs. > Me too. Sid on LVM2, AMD video on Giga MB, fails maybe 10%-20% of shutdowns. The small amount of evidence suggests trouble dismounting the hard drive, with the device mapper showing an unknown number of devices having failed to clear, and no sound of the heads parking. Replacing the hard drive (just age, not for this problem) has improved speeds of some actions, and not changed this behaviour at all. There is also trouble booting sometimes, which appears not to correlate at all with the shutdown trouble. I think that is something to do with video driving, but I can't get any kind of evidence for that, either, other than that it always crashes when the display switches from low-res text to high-res text. Nothing in any log, nothing at all to put in a bug report. Hey, it's sid. -- Joe
Recovering from failure to install Grub
I just installed Jessie to a USB flash drive. Unfortunately I mistyped the name of the preseed.cfg file and ran the one which did not install grub to the target drive. On a working Jessie machine I inserted the flash drive and then ran update-grub. I was then able to boot the copy of Debian residing on the flash drive. It appears to run properly and is now installing some packages that intentionally had not been installed by preseeding. Looking for instructions for installing Grub to an existing drive I found https://wiki.debian.org/Installation+Archive+USBStick?highlight=%28grub-install%29|%28jessie%29 . It was written to address a different situation. It seems to say that all I have to do is run /usr/sbin/grub-install --boot-directory=/boot /dev/sdb Is that correct for my situation? TIA
Re: Recovering from failure to install Grub
Hi Richard, try to boot from super-grub-disk by using its kernel. If your debian boots on the harddrive boots, run update-grub on the booted system. This should fix your harddrive. Super-grub-disk has also some options, to restore grub. If this all fails, you can try the same way by using RIP-Livefile (aka Rescue- is-possible livefile cd.) These are my preferred rescue tools. Good luck, Hans
Re: Recovering from failure to install Grub
On 1/17/2017 2:37 PM, Hans wrote: Hi Richard, try to boot from super-grub-disk by using its kernel. If your debian boots on the harddrive boots, run update-grub on the booted system. This should fix your harddrive. I had already done that. It added the image on the flash drive to the boot menu. The image on the flash appears to run fine and is installing several packages I need for my current project. Super-grub-disk has also some options, to restore grub. I would not describe what has to be done a "restore grub" as grub had never been installed to the flash drive. I'll dig thru the rescue disks I have to see which are available. If this all fails, you can try the same way by using RIP-Livefile (aka Rescue- is-possible livefile cd.) These are my preferred rescue tools. Good luck, Hans Thanks
Re: Recovering from failure to install Grub
On Tue 17 Jan 2017 at 14:19:11 -0600, Richard Owlett wrote: > I just installed Jessie to a USB flash drive. > Unfortunately I mistyped the name of the preseed.cfg file and ran the one > which did not install grub to the target drive. > On a working Jessie machine I inserted the flash drive and then ran > update-grub. > I was then able to boot the copy of Debian residing on the flash drive. > It appears to run properly and is now installing some packages that > intentionally had not been installed by preseeding. > > Looking for instructions for installing Grub to an existing drive I found > https://wiki.debian.org/Installation+Archive+USBStick?highlight=%28grub-install%29|%28jessie%29 > . > > It was written to address a different situation. > It seems to say that all I have to do is run > > /usr/sbin/grub-install --boot-directory=/boot /dev/sdb > > Is that correct for my situation? Yes. -- Brian.
Re: intel_pstate vs acpi-cpufreq freq scale
After some discussion with Liquorix people (who are still not convinced by intel_pstate) http://techpatterns.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=12509#12509 I'm going to try out the new 'schedutils' option with acpi-cpufreq See how it goes eh. Regards, Julian On 16 January 2017 at 23:49, Julian Brooks wrote: > Dear Luis, > > Many thanks for your input and guidance here. > > 'Have you tried to see if this happens with debian's official kernel?' > Doh! Of course. > Yes I have now, and intel_pstate is active - yay. > > Complete newb with any kind of kernel config/tweaking/rebuilding - need to > do some reading-up. > > Thanks again, > > Julian > > On 16 January 2017 at 15:03, Luis Felipe Tabera Alonso > wrote: > >> On lunes, 16 de enero de 2017 1:13:09 (CET) Julian Brooks wrote: >> > Hi all, >> >> Hi Julian, >> >> > Fresh install of Sid, with >> > liquorix 4.9-3 (2017-01-07) x86_64 kernel (for RT audio work). >> > Have also installed linrunner's TLP. >> >> Have you tried to see if this happens with debian's official kernel? >> >> > My understanding is that the x230's Ivy Bridge processor should make >> use of >> > intel_pstate for frequency scaling but I can't seem to load the kernel >> > module at boot. >> >> Is it a module? At least on debian kernels, intel_pstate is inside the >> kernel, >> not as a separate module. >> >> $ grep -i pstate config-4.8.0-2-amd64 >> CONFIG_X86_INTEL_PSTATE=y >> >> however, on liquorix >> >> $ grep -i pstate config-4.9.0-3.2-liquorix-amd64 >> # CONFIG_X86_INTEL_PSTATE is not set >> >> So it seems that liquorix kernel has not compiled intel_pstate. So could >> try >> to recompile it as a module for your running kernel of rebuild liquorix >> kernel >> with intel_pstate support. >> >> Luis >> > >
Memory Upgrade for Ancient Enspiron 2600
I have an old Dell Enspiron 2600 which still works but it only has 256 MB of RAM. I am of the understanding that the 128-MB memory card under the little door on the bottom can be replaced with a 512 MB card and that pretty much does it. There is another 128 MB block under the keyboard but I think for what I was planning to do with it, 640 MB is sufficient. It actually has a 2009 version of vinux which is a port of debian optamized for people who are blind so it talks and works with text applications but there is no memory left for much of anything else. Just for fun, I ran the free application after bootup and out of 256 MB, there are 193 MB available as long as you don't dare run anything. Just for fun, I booted a newer version of linux which did come up but after booting the live CD, there was a whapping 4.5 MB left. My wife used this machine in college running Windows in 2000 with just that 256 MB but this is a different world today so my question is what should one expect to pay for a 512-meg DIM card that, of course, would work in this system? The speed printed on the module is 133 MHZ and the processor is near 1 GHZ so it is certainly not cutting edge by todays standards but it would have more uses with more RAM. It would almost be a raspberry pi.:-) Thanks for your thoughts. Martin WB5AGZ
Re: shutdown fails to power off host
On 01/17/2017 02:39 AM, Hans wrote: > I remember this discussion from sime time ago. Debian has changed a real > poweroff from "halt" to "halt -p". The second one is according to the manual. > > As far as I remeber, "shutdown" is just a wrapper fpr the halt command, but I > am not quite sure. > > But one thing was cleared: To poweroff a debian systenm, the command "halt > -p" > is recommended. > > Besides: This behaviour is also now in kali linux integrated, which was also > using the command "halt" for a long time. But now it's "halt -p", too, also > on > the livefile. > > Best > > Hans > Hi, Thanks for the suggestions and insight to the problem. In my case: 1. The problem was with *any* "shutdown", from the command line, via halt or shutdown, or through menus of the window system. 2. The comment by j...@jretrading.com about unmount issues rings a bell, I think I saw something about failure to sync at one point. 3. I did try 'halt -p', same result. 4. There have been two or three updates since I sent my original question, and the system is now halting and powering off as expected. Bob
Re: Memory Upgrade for Ancient Enspiron 2600
On 01/17/2017 10:00 PM, Martin McCormick wrote: I have an old Dell Enspiron 2600 which still works but it only has 256 MB of RAM. I am of the understanding that the 128-MB memory card under the little door on the bottom can be replaced with a 512 MB card and that pretty much does it. There is another 128 MB block under the keyboard but I think for what I was planning to do with it, 640 MB is sufficient. It actually has a 2009 version of vinux which is a port of debian optamized for people who are blind so it talks and works with text applications but there is no memory left for much of anything else. Just for fun, I ran the free application after bootup and out of 256 MB, there are 193 MB available as long as you don't dare run anything. Just for fun, I booted a newer version of linux which did come up but after booting the live CD, there was a whapping 4.5 MB left. My wife used this machine in college running Windows in 2000 with just that 256 MB but this is a different world today so my question is what should one expect to pay for a 512-meg DIM card that, of course, would work in this system? The speed printed on the module is 133 MHZ and the processor is near 1 GHZ so it is certainly not cutting edge by todays standards but it would have more uses with more RAM. It would almost be a raspberry pi.:-) Thanks for your thoughts. Martin WB5AGZ I have an old Dell laptop--not as old as yours--that came with 1 GB ram, and the user manual says you can only run 2GB. (It had two sockets, one empty.) I found two 2GB cards each designed for that Dell, and plugged both in, and now I have about 3.2 GB of usable ram. Not 4, for 3.2 is better than 2! So try to get at least 1GB in your machine, or maybe more, who knows? It won't blow up the machine, it may just not work. --doug -- Blessed are the peacemakers...for they shall be shot at from both sides.--A.M,Greeley
Re: Memory Upgrade for Ancient Enspiron 2600
Martin McCormick composed on 2017-01-17 21:00 (UTC-0600): I have an old Dell Enspiron 2600 which still works but it only Are you sure? I searched for "inspiron 2600 RAM" and found lots of hits on dell.com and elsewhere. has 256 MB of RAM. I am of the understanding that the 128-MB memory card under the little door on the bottom can be replaced with a 512 MB card and that pretty much does it. There is another 128 MB block under the keyboard but I think for what I was planning to do with it, 640 MB is sufficient. From what I saw you'll need to do more investigating. It looks to me like that model might be limited to 512M in total only in the form of two 256M SODIMMs. It actually has a 2009 version of vinux which is a port of debian optamized for people who are blind so it talks and works with text applications but there is no memory left for much of anything else. Just for fun, I ran the free application after bootup and out of 256 MB, there are 193 MB available as long as you don't dare run anything. Just for fun, I booted a newer version of linux which did come up but after booting the live CD, there was a whapping 4.5 MB left. My wife used this machine in college running Windows in 2000 with just that 256 MB but this is a different world today so my question is what should one expect to pay for a 512-meg DIM card that, of course, would work in this system? You may have asked the wrong question. Because that model is so old, RAM to fit it is plentiful. On http://www.ebay.com/itm/321774526573 you could buy a pair of 256M sticks for $7.99 delivered, but you need to be sure of the exact RAM type to buy and compatibility before being concerned with price. From what I see on eBay searching for Inspiron SODIMM, you should be able to get what you need for under $10. The speed printed on the module is 133 MHZ and the processor is near 1 GHZ so it is certainly not cutting edge by todays standards but it would have more uses with more RAM. It would almost be a raspberry pi.:-) Good chance a 512M stick would not be compatible. Try going to Dell's support site and plug in the 7 character service code from the bottom of the 2600 as a start to getting exactly the information you need to start on the road to a successful upgrade. Thanks for your thoughts.- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/
Re: Memory Upgrade for Ancient Enspiron 2600
On 01/17/2017 10:38 PM, Felix Miata wrote: Martin McCormick composed on 2017-01-17 21:00 (UTC-0600): I have an old Dell Enspiron 2600 which still works but it only Are you sure? I searched for "inspiron 2600 RAM" and found lots of hits on dell.com and elsewhere. The older Dell I wrote about is an Inspiron E1505. I am very sure of what I wrote about. (4 meg ram, providing an actual usable 3.2 meg.) Incidentally, that same machine that came with a 32 bit processor can (now) be upgraded to a 64 bit processor, which I did. It requires updating the BIOS also. Now it runs 64 bit PCLinuxOS, and would run 64 bit Windows, If I had an spare 64 bit copy of Windows to put on it, and if I cared. The conversion information is available on the 'net. I don't have an URL right at hand to pass on. The conversion to 64 bit requires a significant disassembly and reassembly of the machine! If you're not handy with small parts and tools, don't try it. --doug has 256 MB of RAM. I am of the understanding that the 128-MB memory card under the little door on the bottom can be replaced with a 512 MB card and that pretty much does it. There is another 128 MB block under the keyboard but I think for what I was planning to do with it, 640 MB is sufficient. From what I saw you'll need to do more investigating. It looks to me like that model might be limited to 512M in total only in the form of two 256M SODIMMs. It actually has a 2009 version of vinux which is a port of debian optamized for people who are blind so it talks and works with text applications but there is no memory left for much of anything else. Just for fun, I ran the free application after bootup and out of 256 MB, there are 193 MB available as long as you don't dare run anything. Just for fun, I booted a newer version of linux which did come up but after booting the live CD, there was a whapping 4.5 MB left. My wife used this machine in college running Windows in 2000 with just that 256 MB but this is a different world today so my question is what should one expect to pay for a 512-meg DIM card that, of course, would work in this system? You may have asked the wrong question. Because that model is so old, RAM to fit it is plentiful. On http://www.ebay.com/itm/321774526573 you could buy a pair of 256M sticks for $7.99 delivered, but you need to be sure of the exact RAM type to buy and compatibility before being concerned with price. From what I see on eBay searching for Inspiron SODIMM, you should be able to get what you need for under $10. The speed printed on the module is 133 MHZ and the processor is near 1 GHZ so it is certainly not cutting edge by todays standards but it would have more uses with more RAM. It would almost be a raspberry pi.:-) Good chance a 512M stick would not be compatible. Try going to Dell's support site and plug in the 7 character service code from the bottom of the 2600 as a start to getting exactly the information you need to start on the road to a successful upgrade. Thanks for your thoughts.- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- Blessed are the peacemakers...for they shall be shot at from both sides.--A.M,Greeley
Re: shutdown fails to power off host
Am Wed, 04 Jan 2017 22:59:46 -0800 schrieb Bob McGowan: > When I shutdown my desktop system, the screen displays messages from > systemd (I presume), the last of which is "Reached target Shutdown". Just a thought... I'm running Debian Jessie and I see the same behavior with my Thinkpad T500. In my case the reason is the Network Manager. I have 2 NFS shares mounted over Wifi. The Network Manager stops Wifi before unmounting the NFS shares. This leads to a long time out. After that, I see the "Reached target Shutdown" message and the system in still powered. I have to unmount the NFS volumes first and than I can shutdown the system.
