Installing Lexmark printer firmware via USB

[Alex Gould]

Hello everyone,

Has anyone been able to upgrade a Lexmark printer firmware via USB in
Linux?

I am using an MS310d. Lexmark has a windows firmware update utility but
it doesn't detect the printer under WINE.

Printing workers ok with CUPS but the firmware update promises to fix
some errors that I've noticed.

Thanks,
Alex

Re: Installing Lexmark printer firmware via USB

[Michael J. Ford]

On Sun, 2016-12-25 at 07:58 -0800, Alex Gould wrote:
> Hello everyone,
> 
> Has anyone been able to upgrade a Lexmark printer firmware via USB in
> Linux?
> 
> I am using an MS310d. Lexmark has a windows firmware update utility
> but
> it doesn't detect the printer under WINE.
> 
> Printing workers ok with CUPS but the firmware update promises to fix
> some errors that I've noticed.
> 
> Thanks,
> Alex
> 
Not over USB, but I've been able to do this over the network in the
past using a combination of curl/wget and ftp.

Some reverse engineering will be required... 
If you're looking for a more simple (manual) process the WebUI should have a 
firmware update utility...

Michael J. Ford 

"Talk is cheap. Show me the code." ~ Linus Torvalds

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Re: Installing Lexmark printer firmware via USB

[Gene Heskett]

On Sunday 25 December 2016 10:58:49 Alex Gould wrote:

> Hello everyone,
>
> Has anyone been able to upgrade a Lexmark printer firmware via USB in
> Linux?
>
> I am using an MS310d. Lexmark has a windows firmware update utility
> but it doesn't detect the printer under WINE.
>
> Printing workers ok with CUPS but the firmware update promises to fix
> some errors that I've noticed.
>
> Thanks,
> Alex

We have a utility for that, and which I have used a couple times but 
haven't managed to make it work with something expecting a winders box.
Do a search in your package manager of choice for "dfu", meaning Device 
Firmware Updater. I've failed a few times but I haven't killed any 
kittens with it either.  And I've succeeded a couple times.

Cheers, Gene Heskett
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Genes Web page 

Synaptic icons - where defined/explained?

[Richard Owlett]

Where is the icon [a yellow star in otherwise blank box] defined?
Not in 
https://manpages.debian.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=synaptic&apropos=0&sektion=0&manpath=Debian+8+jessie&format=html&locale=en


A graphic accessed from Help->Icon Legend says only "Not 
installed(new in repository)"


What does "new in repository" actually mean? I've installed from 
a purchased set of DVDs, so it cannot mean "new since DVD created" ;/

Re: Synaptic icons - where defined/explained?

[kamaraju kusumanchi]

On Sun, Dec 25, 2016 at 3:21 PM, Richard Owlett  wrote:
> Where is the icon [a yellow star in otherwise blank box] defined?
> Not in
> https://manpages.debian.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=synaptic&apropos=0&sektion=0&manpath=Debian+8+jessie&format=html&locale=en
>
> A graphic accessed from Help->Icon Legend says only "Not installed(new in
> repository)"
>
> What does "new in repository" actually mean? I've installed from a purchased
> set of DVDs, so it cannot mean "new since DVD created" ;/

It is referring to the online repository maintained by Debian and
mirrored across all over the world. The repository locations  are
specified in /etc/apt/sources.list file. For example, I have the
following lines in my /etc/apt/sources.list

 % cat /etc/apt/sources.list
deb http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ stretch main contrib non-free
deb-src http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ stretch main contrib non-free
deb http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ stretch-updates main contrib non-free
deb-src http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ stretch-updates main
contrib non-free
deb http://security.debian.org/ stretch/updates main contrib non-free
deb-src http://security.debian.org/ stretch/updates main contrib non-free

If you just look at the first line
deb http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ stretch main contrib non-free

it is pointing to the  repository located at
http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/. You can track multiple
repositories (in the above example that would be
http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/, http://security.debian.org/). The
repository location can be something remote (as is the case in my
example) or something local (ex:- DVD, CD, USB). You can even set up
your own repository (on your hard drive) and point
/etc/apt/sources.list there. But in general, unless otherwise
specified, a repository usually means the official one maintained by
Debian.

hope that helps
raju
-- 
Kamaraju S Kusumanchi | http://raju.shoutwiki.com/wiki/Blog

Re: Synaptic icons - where defined/explained?

[Brad Rogers]

On Sun, 25 Dec 2016 14:21:20 -0600
Richard Owlett  wrote:

Hello Richard,

>Where is the icon [a yellow star in otherwise blank box] defined?

Not sure where it's described/defined, but if I understand you
correctly, it means there's an update available for an uninstalled
package.

>What does "new in repository" actually mean? I've installed from 
>a purchased set of DVDs, so it cannot mean "new since DVD created" ;/

Yes, it does;  The installation of Debian almost inevitably creates a
non-DVD repo which can have new packages delivered to it.  So, you're
using a repo (or repos) other than the install DVDs and new packages have
arrived in that repo.  This can happen as a natural consequence of
migration from sid to testing, for example.

-- 
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 / )   "The blindingly obvious is
/ _)radnever immediately apparent"
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Re: Synaptic icons - where defined/explained?

[Brad Rogers]

On Sun, 25 Dec 2016 14:21:20 -0600
Richard Owlett  wrote:

Hello Richard,

>Where is the icon [a yellow star in otherwise blank box] defined?
>Not in 

A yellow star means there's an update available for that package.

-- 
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/ _)radnever immediately apparent"
I'm not here for your entertainment
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Re: Synaptic icons - where defined/explained?

[Brad Rogers]

On Sun, 25 Dec 2016 22:00:23 +
Brad Rogers  wrote:

Hello Brad,

>A yellow star means there's an update available for that package
No it doesn't, 

-- 
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 / )   "The blindingly obvious is
/ _)radnever immediately apparent"
Your life is like a schedule, you run to meet the bills
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Wacom tablet not recognized in Debian 8

[Curt Howland]

Debian Stable, fully updated this evening.

Just got a Wacom tablet and it's not working at all.

[  203.144771] usb 1-1: new full-speed USB device number 3 using xhci_hcd
[  203.297507] usb 1-1: New USB device found, idVendor=056a, idProduct=033b
[  203.297518] usb 1-1: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=0
[  203.297524] usb 1-1: Product: Intuos PS
[  203.297529] usb 1-1: Manufacturer: Wacom Co.,Ltd.

but...

# xsetwacom --list devices

returns nothing.

I have the obvious Wacom drivers:

ii  libwacom-common   0.8-1
all  Wacom model feature query library (common files)
ii  libwacom2:amd64   0.8-1
amd64Wacom model feature query library
ii  xserver-xorg-input-wacom  0.26.0+20140918-1
amd64

and clearly xsetwacom exists as a binary.

Any ideas? The device just isn't being seen, it seems.

Curt-


-- 
The secret of happiness is freedom,
and the secret of freedom is courage.
- Thucydides

Re: Synaptic icons - where defined/explained?

[Lisi Reisz]

On Sunday 25 December 2016 20:21:20 Richard Owlett wrote:
> Where is the icon [a yellow star in otherwise blank box] defined?
> Not in
> https://manpages.debian.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=synaptic&apropos=0&sektio
>n=0&manpath=Debian+8+jessie&format=html&locale=en
>
> A graphic accessed from Help->Icon Legend says only "Not
> installed(new in repository)"
>
> What does "new in repository" actually mean? I've installed from
> a purchased set of DVDs, so it cannot mean "new since DVD created" ;/

http://www.nongnu.org/synaptic/action.html

HTH!

Lisi

question about aptitudetask-ldxe

[Gene Heskett]

Greetings everybody, I hope you have had and enjoyable day;

I am currently logged into a raspi 3b with an armhf jessie-lite install.

That means the only x is enough to export it.  But I know for a fact that 
x can run quite well, I have seen it do so.

But that install was well and truly wrecked because the kernel wasn't 
pinned, and it was a realtime kernel. So the updater overwrote the 
kernel with one that can't do the job and by the time I realized the 
kernel running wasn't the right one, and I could not force the 
re-installation because it couldn't, even as root, overwrite the overlay 
stuff.

So this is a fresh install of jessie-lite for armhf.

Installing lightdm, and telling it to open a default "seat" gets me a 
teeny little, non-movable terminal with just enough mouse to allow  me 
to put keyboard focus on it.  From there I can cd around, run nano, or 
even run the app I built this to run, linuxcnc.

But I need a real "desktop", so despite the fact that aptitude has 
totally destroyed my systems twice with its wild dependency removals, 
its the only thing I have that can show me a list of files.
So I am sitting with task-lxde-desktop selected, and looking at a 
screenfull of red because its dependencies aren't satisfied.
I want to install  it, but not as it shows in the view.

If it will install everything marked in red, then it will install a bunch 
of stuff I absolutely do not need for this job, like 500 megabytes of 
libreoffice stuff.

Help please, or tell me how to run synaptic, it won't let the default 
user, pi run it without the ROOT passwd, which something in polkit-1 has 
kittens over because that makes me not the logged in user, or if I 
become root and try to run synaptic, it can't open display 10:.

So aptitude guru's, how do I install lxde so I might have a useable 
desktop, without also installing half a gigabyte of libreoffice I do NOT 
need on a limited resource machine.

If I need to use a libreoffice/openoffice tool, I have half a dozen other 
x86 boxes about the place that can run it just fine.

Many Thanks for any help.

Cheers, Gene Heskett
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Genes Web page 

Re: question about aptitudetask-ldxe

[David Wright]

On Sun 25 Dec 2016 at 22:19:27 (-0500), Gene Heskett wrote:
> Greetings everybody, I hope you have had and enjoyable day;
> 
> I am currently logged into a raspi 3b with an armhf jessie-lite install.
> 
> That means the only x is enough to export it.  But I know for a fact that 
> x can run quite well, I have seen it do so.
> 
> But that install was well and truly wrecked because the kernel wasn't 
> pinned, and it was a realtime kernel. So the updater overwrote the 
> kernel with one that can't do the job and by the time I realized the 
> kernel running wasn't the right one, and I could not force the 
> re-installation because it couldn't, even as root, overwrite the overlay 
> stuff.
> 
> So this is a fresh install of jessie-lite for armhf.
> 
> Installing lightdm, and telling it to open a default "seat" gets me a 
> teeny little, non-movable terminal with just enough mouse to allow  me 
> to put keyboard focus on it.  From there I can cd around, run nano, or 
> even run the app I built this to run, linuxcnc.
> 
> But I need a real "desktop", so despite the fact that aptitude has 
> totally destroyed my systems twice with its wild dependency removals, 
> its the only thing I have that can show me a list of files.
> So I am sitting with task-lxde-desktop selected, and looking at a 
> screenfull of red because its dependencies aren't satisfied.
> I want to install  it, but not as it shows in the view.
> 
> If it will install everything marked in red, then it will install a bunch 
> of stuff I absolutely do not need for this job, like 500 megabytes of 
> libreoffice stuff.
> 
> Help please, or tell me how to run synaptic, it won't let the default 
> user, pi run it without the ROOT passwd, which something in polkit-1 has 
> kittens over because that makes me not the logged in user, or if I 
> become root and try to run synaptic, it can't open display 10:.
> 
> So aptitude guru's, how do I install lxde so I might have a useable 
> desktop, without also installing half a gigabyte of libreoffice I do NOT 
> need on a limited resource machine.
> 
> If I need to use a libreoffice/openoffice tool, I have half a dozen other 
> x86 boxes about the place that can run it just fine.
> 
> Many Thanks for any help.

Package: task-lxde-desktop
Depends: tasksel (= 3.31+deb8u1), task-desktop, lightdm, lxde
Recommends: lxtask, lxlauncher, xsane, libreoffice-gtk, synaptic,
iceweasel, libreoffice, libreoffice-help-en-us, mythes-en-us,
hunspell-en-us, hyphen-en-us, system-config-printer, gnome-orca

so how about:   # aptitude -R

Cheers,
David.

Re: question about aptitudetask-ldxe

[Gene Heskett]

On Sunday 25 December 2016 23:05:03 David Wright wrote:

> On Sun 25 Dec 2016 at 22:19:27 (-0500), Gene Heskett wrote:
> > Greetings everybody, I hope you have had and enjoyable day;
> >
> > I am currently logged into a raspi 3b with an armhf jessie-lite
> > install.
> >
> > That means the only x is enough to export it.  But I know for a fact
> > that x can run quite well, I have seen it do so.
> >
> > But that install was well and truly wrecked because the kernel
> > wasn't pinned, and it was a realtime kernel. So the updater
> > overwrote the kernel with one that can't do the job and by the time
> > I realized the kernel running wasn't the right one, and I could not
> > force the re-installation because it couldn't, even as root,
> > overwrite the overlay stuff.
> >
> > So this is a fresh install of jessie-lite for armhf.
> >
> > Installing lightdm, and telling it to open a default "seat" gets me
> > a teeny little, non-movable terminal with just enough mouse to allow
> >  me to put keyboard focus on it.  From there I can cd around, run
> > nano, or even run the app I built this to run, linuxcnc.
> >
> > But I need a real "desktop", so despite the fact that aptitude has
> > totally destroyed my systems twice with its wild dependency
> > removals, its the only thing I have that can show me a list of
> > files. So I am sitting with task-lxde-desktop selected, and looking
> > at a screenfull of red because its dependencies aren't satisfied. I
> > want to install  it, but not as it shows in the view.
> >
> > If it will install everything marked in red, then it will install a
> > bunch of stuff I absolutely do not need for this job, like 500
> > megabytes of libreoffice stuff.
> >
> > Help please, or tell me how to run synaptic, it won't let the
> > default user, pi run it without the ROOT passwd, which something in
> > polkit-1 has kittens over because that makes me not the logged in
> > user, or if I become root and try to run synaptic, it can't open
> > display 10:.
> >
> > So aptitude guru's, how do I install lxde so I might have a useable
> > desktop, without also installing half a gigabyte of libreoffice I do
> > NOT need on a limited resource machine.
> >
> > If I need to use a libreoffice/openoffice tool, I have half a dozen
> > other x86 boxes about the place that can run it just fine.
> >
> > Many Thanks for any help.
>
> Package: task-lxde-desktop
> Depends: tasksel (= 3.31+deb8u1), task-desktop, lightdm, lxde
> Recommends: lxtask, lxlauncher, xsane, libreoffice-gtk, synaptic,
> iceweasel, libreoffice, libreoffice-help-en-us, mythes-en-us,
> hunspell-en-us, hyphen-en-us, system-config-printer, gnome-orca
>
> so how about:   # aptitude -R
>
That will not tell me what it will do, and with my previous experience 
with aptitude leading to a complete re-install every time, I don't do 
anything without knowing what it will do. Its idea of package management 
the last time I wanted something like htop installed, was to rip out 278 
other vital packages, so I had to locate the install dvd and start all 
over.  By the time I actually had it running the machine again, was 
about 3 days work. Burn me once was educational, twice was because I 
must learn slow.  Its not going to do anything again without knowing 
exactly what that next keypress, other than a 'q', is going to do.

I would much rather we figure out how I can run synaptic, it is 
installed, but if root tries to run it, it can't use display 10:
If pi tries to run synaptic-pkexec, it asks for the root pw, I enter it, 
and something in polkit-1 screams because I am not the logged in user.

The paranoia about denying the user, root or otherwise, the ability to 
run a decent package manager is wearing thin in this old chiefs camp. 
I've been running a linux house exclusively since rh5 in 1998. After 18 
years, I know well how much damage root can do, aptitude has 
demonstrated that twice already.

So please, lets make synaptic run for me if you can't tell me what that 
commandline "aptitude -R" launch will do.

> Cheers,
> David.


Cheers David, Gene Heskett
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Genes Web page 

Error with apt-get update

[Steven Yeager]

root@eisen:/home/yeager# apt-get update
Hit http://download.virtualbox.org trusty InRelease
Ign http://debian.usu.edu jessie
InRelease 
Hit http://debian.usu.edu jessie-updates
InRelease 
Hit http://download.virtualbox.org trusty/contrib amd64
Packages   
Hit http://debian.usu.edu jessie
Release.gpg   
Hit http://debian.usu.edu jessie-updates/main
Sources  
Get:1 http://debian.usu.edu jessie-updates/main amd64 Packages/DiffIndex
[6,916 B]
Get:2 http://debian.usu.edu jessie-updates/main Translation-en/DiffIndex
[2,704 B]
Hit http://debian.usu.edu jessie
Release   
Hit http://debian.usu.edu jessie/main
Sources  
Hit http://debian.usu.edu jessie/main
Translation-en   
Ign http://download.virtualbox.org trusty/contrib
Translation-en_US
Ign http://download.virtualbox.org trusty/contrib
Translation-en   
Hit http://debian.usu.edu jessie/main amd64
Packages   
100% [Connecting to security.debian.org
(2607:ea00:101:3c0b::1deb:215)]  


When I apt-get update after I enter into su it freezes up and will not
finish updating

Re: Wacom tablet not recognized in Debian 8

[Jude DaShiell]

When was the last time you ran update-usb-ids?  Perhaps run that script 
as sudo or root and then try connecting that wacom tablet and rebooting.
 Check dmesg for fatals; errors, and warnings.  If nothing shows up then 
check for tablet in dmesg and see if the tablet is now recognized.  You 
could probably run update-pci-ids but I think wacom is a usb device.


On Sun, 25 Dec 2016, Curt Howland wrote:


Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2016 18:11:31
From: Curt Howland 
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Wacom tablet not recognized in Debian 8
Resent-Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2016 23:11:51 + (UTC)
Resent-From: debian-user@lists.debian.org

Debian Stable, fully updated this evening.

Just got a Wacom tablet and it's not working at all.

[  203.144771] usb 1-1: new full-speed USB device number 3 using xhci_hcd
[  203.297507] usb 1-1: New USB device found, idVendor=056a, idProduct=033b
[  203.297518] usb 1-1: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=0
[  203.297524] usb 1-1: Product: Intuos PS
[  203.297529] usb 1-1: Manufacturer: Wacom Co.,Ltd.

but...

# xsetwacom --list devices

returns nothing.

I have the obvious Wacom drivers:

ii  libwacom-common   0.8-1
   all  Wacom model feature query library (common files)
ii  libwacom2:amd64   0.8-1
   amd64Wacom model feature query library
ii  xserver-xorg-input-wacom  0.26.0+20140918-1
   amd64

and clearly xsetwacom exists as a binary.

Any ideas? The device just isn't being seen, it seems.

Curt-





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Re: question about aptitudetask-ldxe

[Charlie Kravetz]

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On Sun, 25 Dec 2016 23:51:03 -0500
Gene Heskett  wrote:

>On Sunday 25 December 2016 23:05:03 David Wright wrote:
>
>> On Sun 25 Dec 2016 at 22:19:27 (-0500), Gene Heskett wrote:  
>> > Greetings everybody, I hope you have had and enjoyable day;
>> >
>> > I am currently logged into a raspi 3b with an armhf jessie-lite
>> > install.
>> >
>> > That means the only x is enough to export it.  But I know for a fact
>> > that x can run quite well, I have seen it do so.
>> >
>> > But that install was well and truly wrecked because the kernel
>> > wasn't pinned, and it was a realtime kernel. So the updater
>> > overwrote the kernel with one that can't do the job and by the time
>> > I realized the kernel running wasn't the right one, and I could not
>> > force the re-installation because it couldn't, even as root,
>> > overwrite the overlay stuff.
>> >
>> > So this is a fresh install of jessie-lite for armhf.
>> >
>> > Installing lightdm, and telling it to open a default "seat" gets me
>> > a teeny little, non-movable terminal with just enough mouse to allow
>> >  me to put keyboard focus on it.  From there I can cd around, run
>> > nano, or even run the app I built this to run, linuxcnc.
>> >
>> > But I need a real "desktop", so despite the fact that aptitude has
>> > totally destroyed my systems twice with its wild dependency
>> > removals, its the only thing I have that can show me a list of
>> > files. So I am sitting with task-lxde-desktop selected, and looking
>> > at a screenfull of red because its dependencies aren't satisfied. I
>> > want to install  it, but not as it shows in the view.
>> >
>> > If it will install everything marked in red, then it will install a
>> > bunch of stuff I absolutely do not need for this job, like 500
>> > megabytes of libreoffice stuff.
>> >
>> > Help please, or tell me how to run synaptic, it won't let the
>> > default user, pi run it without the ROOT passwd, which something in
>> > polkit-1 has kittens over because that makes me not the logged in
>> > user, or if I become root and try to run synaptic, it can't open
>> > display 10:.
>> >
>> > So aptitude guru's, how do I install lxde so I might have a useable
>> > desktop, without also installing half a gigabyte of libreoffice I do
>> > NOT need on a limited resource machine.
>> >
>> > If I need to use a libreoffice/openoffice tool, I have half a dozen
>> > other x86 boxes about the place that can run it just fine.
>> >
>> > Many Thanks for any help.  
>>
>> Package: task-lxde-desktop
>> Depends: tasksel (= 3.31+deb8u1), task-desktop, lightdm, lxde
>> Recommends: lxtask, lxlauncher, xsane, libreoffice-gtk, synaptic,
>> iceweasel, libreoffice, libreoffice-help-en-us, mythes-en-us,
>> hunspell-en-us, hyphen-en-us, system-config-printer, gnome-orca
>>
>> so how about:   # aptitude -R
>>  
>That will not tell me what it will do, and with my previous experience 
>with aptitude leading to a complete re-install every time, I don't do 
>anything without knowing what it will do. Its idea of package management 
>the last time I wanted something like htop installed, was to rip out 278 
>other vital packages, so I had to locate the install dvd and start all 
>over.  By the time I actually had it running the machine again, was 
>about 3 days work. Burn me once was educational, twice was because I 
>must learn slow.  Its not going to do anything again without knowing 
>exactly what that next keypress, other than a 'q', is going to do.
>
>I would much rather we figure out how I can run synaptic, it is 
>installed, but if root tries to run it, it can't use display 10:
>If pi tries to run synaptic-pkexec, it asks for the root pw, I enter it, 
>and something in polkit-1 screams because I am not the logged in user.
>
>The paranoia about denying the user, root or otherwise, the ability to 
>run a decent package manager is wearing thin in this old chiefs camp. 
>I've been running a linux house exclusively since rh5 in 1998. After 18 
>years, I know well how much damage root can do, aptitude has 
>demonstrated that twice already.
>
>So please, lets make synaptic run for me if you can't tell me what that 
>commandline "aptitude -R" launch will do.
>
>> Cheers,
>> David.  
>
>
>Cheers David, Gene Heskett


To run synaptic:
go to root as user pi - su 
run synaptic - synaptic

It does not need pkexec to make it run from root.

- -- 
Charlie Kravetz
Linux Registered User Number 425914
[http://linuxcounter.net/user/425914.html]
Never let anyone steal your DREAM.   [http://keepingdreams.com]
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Re: question about aptitudetask-ldxe

[Gene Heskett]

On Monday 26 December 2016 00:19:31 Charlie Kravetz wrote:

> On Sun, 25 Dec 2016 23:51:03 -0500
>
> Gene Heskett  wrote:
> >On Sunday 25 December 2016 23:05:03 David Wright wrote:
> >> On Sun 25 Dec 2016 at 22:19:27 (-0500), Gene Heskett wrote:
> >> > Greetings everybody, I hope you have had and enjoyable day;
> >> >
> >> > I am currently logged into a raspi 3b with an armhf jessie-lite
> >> > install.
> >> >
> >> > That means the only x is enough to export it.  But I know for a
> >> > fact that x can run quite well, I have seen it do so.
> >> >
> >> > But that install was well and truly wrecked because the kernel
> >> > wasn't pinned, and it was a realtime kernel. So the updater
> >> > overwrote the kernel with one that can't do the job and by the
> >> > time I realized the kernel running wasn't the right one, and I
> >> > could not force the re-installation because it couldn't, even as
> >> > root, overwrite the overlay stuff.
> >> >
> >> > So this is a fresh install of jessie-lite for armhf.
> >> >
> >> > Installing lightdm, and telling it to open a default "seat" gets
> >> > me a teeny little, non-movable terminal with just enough mouse to
> >> > allow me to put keyboard focus on it.  From there I can cd
> >> > around, run nano, or even run the app I built this to run,
> >> > linuxcnc.
> >> >
> >> > But I need a real "desktop", so despite the fact that aptitude
> >> > has totally destroyed my systems twice with its wild dependency
> >> > removals, its the only thing I have that can show me a list of
> >> > files. So I am sitting with task-lxde-desktop selected, and
> >> > looking at a screenfull of red because its dependencies aren't
> >> > satisfied. I want to install  it, but not as it shows in the
> >> > view.
> >> >
> >> > If it will install everything marked in red, then it will install
> >> > a bunch of stuff I absolutely do not need for this job, like 500
> >> > megabytes of libreoffice stuff.
> >> >
> >> > Help please, or tell me how to run synaptic, it won't let the
> >> > default user, pi run it without the ROOT passwd, which something
> >> > in polkit-1 has kittens over because that makes me not the logged
> >> > in user, or if I become root and try to run synaptic, it can't
> >> > open display 10:.
> >> >
> >> > So aptitude guru's, how do I install lxde so I might have a
> >> > useable desktop, without also installing half a gigabyte of
> >> > libreoffice I do NOT need on a limited resource machine.
> >> >
> >> > If I need to use a libreoffice/openoffice tool, I have half a
> >> > dozen other x86 boxes about the place that can run it just fine.
> >> >
> >> > Many Thanks for any help.
> >>
> >> Package: task-lxde-desktop
> >> Depends: tasksel (= 3.31+deb8u1), task-desktop, lightdm, lxde
> >> Recommends: lxtask, lxlauncher, xsane, libreoffice-gtk, synaptic,
> >> iceweasel, libreoffice, libreoffice-help-en-us, mythes-en-us,
> >> hunspell-en-us, hyphen-en-us, system-config-printer, gnome-orca
> >>
> >> so how about:   # aptitude -R
> >
> >That will not tell me what it will do, and with my previous
> > experience with aptitude leading to a complete re-install every
> > time, I don't do anything without knowing what it will do. Its idea
> > of package management the last time I wanted something like htop
> > installed, was to rip out 278 other vital packages, so I had to
> > locate the install dvd and start all over.  By the time I actually
> > had it running the machine again, was about 3 days work. Burn me
> > once was educational, twice was because I must learn slow.  Its not
> > going to do anything again without knowing exactly what that next
> > keypress, other than a 'q', is going to do.
> >
> >I would much rather we figure out how I can run synaptic, it is
> >installed, but if root tries to run it, it can't use display 10:
> >If pi tries to run synaptic-pkexec, it asks for the root pw, I enter
> > it, and something in polkit-1 screams because I am not the logged in
> > user.
> >
> >The paranoia about denying the user, root or otherwise, the ability
> > to run a decent package manager is wearing thin in this old chiefs
> > camp. I've been running a linux house exclusively since rh5 in 1998.
> > After 18 years, I know well how much damage root can do, aptitude
> > has demonstrated that twice already.
> >
> >So please, lets make synaptic run for me if you can't tell me what
> > that commandline "aptitude -R" launch will do.
> >
> >> Cheers,
> >> David.
> >
> >Cheers David, Gene Heskett
>
> To run synaptic:
> go to root as user pi - su
> run synaptic - synaptic
>
> It does not need pkexec to make it run from root.
screen scrape:
pi@raspberrypi:~/linuxcnc/configs/lathe $ su
Password: 
root@raspberrypi:/home/pi/linuxcnc/configs/lathe# synaptic
X11 connection rejected because of wrong authentication.

** (synaptic:2792): WARNING **: Could not open X display
X11 connection rejected because of wrong authentication.
X11 connection rejected because of wrong authentication.
Unable to init server: Co

Building error_XORP

[BHAVIKA JOSHI]

Hey,

I am Bhavika Joshi, Currently working on XORP, I am trying to build XORP in
ubuntu 14.04 but I found error in XRL package interface in
cli_processor.xif file.

I attached the log file of error what i found while building the scons.

Please kindly help me for solving this bug.



Thank You,



Regards
Bhavika Joshi
7386117924
scons: warning: Two different environments were specified for target aspath.os,
but they appear to have the same action: $SHCXX -o $TARGET -c 
$SHCXXFLAGS $SHCCFLAGS $_CCCOMCOM $SOURCES
File "/home/bjoshi/Documents/xorp/bgp/SConscript", line 169, in 
scons: done reading SConscript files.
scons: Building targets ...
/home/bjoshi/Documents/xorp/xrl/scripts/clnt-gen 
-Iobj/x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu/xrl/interfaces/../.. --output-dir 
obj/x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu/xrl/interfaces xrl/interfaces/cli_processor.xif
Invalid pre-processor #line flag (%d)
3
scons: *** [obj/x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu/xrl/interfaces/cli_processor_xif.cc] 
Error 1
scons: building terminated because of errors.

Re: Synaptic icons - where defined/explained?

[Richard Owlett]

On 12/25/2016 5:44 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote:

On Sunday 25 December 2016 20:21:20 Richard Owlett wrote:

Where is the icon [a yellow star in otherwise blank box] defined?
Not in
https://manpages.debian.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=synaptic&apropos=0&sektio
n=0&manpath=Debian+8+jessie&format=html&locale=en

A graphic accessed from Help->Icon Legend says only "Not
installed(new in repository)"

What does "new in repository" actually mean? I've installed from
a purchased set of DVDs, so it cannot mean "new since DVD created" ;/


http://www.nongnu.org/synaptic/action.html

HTH!

Lisi




Had already seen it. It is just an image of display from 
Help->Icon ;<
I wonder if it had specific implications "once upon a time" and 
now means nothing more than the empty box i.e "Not installed".