Re: ICMPv6 and the conntrack table

[Pascal Hambourg]

Le 08/10/2016 à 20:09, Florian Pelgrim a écrit :


$ ip route get 2404:6800:400a:800::1012
2404:6800:400a:800::1012 from :: via fe80::1 dev eth0  src
fe80::d481:11ff:feee:4908  metric 0


This does not look like a correct setup to me, unless the router 
performs source NAT (yuck!). A link local source address cannot be used 
to send packets beyond the link.



So why is conntrack ignoring my icmpv6 traffic?


Conntrack does not ignore all ICMPv6 traffic. Only some ICMPv6 types are 
not tracked because they use multicast which is hard to track. Such 
types include part of the NDP protocol (neighbour discovery) : Neighbour 
Solicitation, Neighbour Advertisement, Router Solicitation, Router 
Advertisement, and a few others. They have the UNTRACKED state.


Blocking NDP on a broadcast interface breaks IPv6 connectivity.

Other usual ICMPv6 types such as Echo Request/Reply and error messages 
(Destination Unreachable, Packet Too Big, Parameter Problem...) are 
tracked as usual.

Re: Synaptic NMU upload in testing

[Brad Rogers]

On Sat, 8 Oct 2016 20:05:53 -0400
kamaraju kusumanchi  wrote:

Hello kamaraju,

>It is working fine for me.

A sort of 'good news / bad news' scenario:  Good news for you, bad news
for me.

In any case, thanks for letting me know.  It's useful.

> % dpkg -l libxapian30 synaptic | grep ^ii
>ii  libxapian30:amd64 1.4.0-2  amd64Search engine library
>ii  synaptic  0.83+nmu1amd64Graphical package

Same.

I have similar to lines yours in sources.list, too.

> % su-to-root -X -c synaptic

The same.

So, this points to a local problem, it seems.  I tried installing
xapian-tools (I don't routinely install suggests/recommends), no change.

Frankly, I've no idea where to go from here.

Thanks again for replying.

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Nvida Legacy 304 Catastrophe

[David Baron]

These packages upgraded (though they seem no longer on Debian!). The upgrades 
would not play with opengl2 so plasma would no longer run. Downgrading to 
testing, due to partial removal from the repos, proved impossible. No more 
means to file bugs, either!

So I uninstalled them, went back to Nouveaux (which I might even prefer). 
Plasmashell is unstable, crashes and restarts, and multiple session will not 
work. Could live the a single-session if that be stable.

There had been problems with firefox in nouveaux last year.

What to do about all this?

Re: url redirected in chrome/chromium, but working fine, according to ping/traceroute, lynx, w3m, iceweasel.

[Richard Hector]

On 08/10/16 07:00, Tony Baldwin wrote:
> I have a little business card website up for my big brother's media
> consulting side-business at http://playomatic.myownsite.me.
> Now, at the moment, if I try to load it in Google-Chrome-Stable, I'm
> getting redirected to a yahoo! search for "create web",
> If I try to load it in the floss chromium, I get a spammy landing page,

This is probably a long shot ... is it a recent chrome/chromium? It
seems to work fine for me in jessie.

Just wondering if it sees a url that doesn't start with www, and ends
with a slightly unusual '.me', and tries to 'autocorrect'. But .me is a
country code TLD, not one of the new ones as I first thought, so it
shouldn't be that.

Richard

Re: url redirected in chrome/chromium, but working fine, according to ping/traceroute, lynx, w3m, iceweasel.

[Tony Baldwin]

On 10/09/2016 07:11 AM, Richard Hector wrote:

On 08/10/16 07:00, Tony Baldwin wrote:

I have a little business card website up for my big brother's media
consulting side-business at http://playomatic.myownsite.me.
Now, at the moment, if I try to load it in Google-Chrome-Stable, I'm
getting redirected to a yahoo! search for "create web",
If I try to load it in the floss chromium, I get a spammy landing page,


This is probably a long shot ... is it a recent chrome/chromium? It
seems to work fine for me in jessie.

Just wondering if it sees a url that doesn't start with www, and ends
with a slightly unusual '.me', and tries to 'autocorrect'. But .me is a
country code TLD, not one of the new ones as I first thought, so it
shouldn't be that.



my chromium is Version 53.0.2785.113 Built on 8.5, running on Debian 8.5 
(64-bit)
and my chrome is google's latest stable install within this past week, 
two weeks at most . Version53.02785.143 (64-bit)


What country is .me? here in th US, of course, it could be the State of 
Maine.


Tony


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all tony, all the time

Re: url redirected in chrome/chromium, but working fine, according to ping/traceroute, lynx, w3m, iceweasel.

[Richard Hector]

On 10/10/16 00:20, Tony Baldwin wrote:
> What country is .me? here in th US, of course, it could be the State of
> Maine.

Montenegro, apparently. According to a quick web search ;-)

Richard

Re: url redirected in chrome/chromium, but working fine, according to ping/traceroute, lynx, w3m, iceweasel.

[Tony Baldwin]

On 10/09/2016 07:23 AM, Richard Hector wrote:

On 10/10/16 00:20, Tony Baldwin wrote:

What country is .me? here in th US, of course, it could be the State of
Maine.


Montenegro, apparently. According to a quick web search ;-)

Richard



Thanks, I was curious, couldn't think of anything, all the Ms I could 
think of were thins like Maroc, Moçambique, Macao, and the like, where 
.ma, .mc, .mo, or some such think would make more sense.
I kind of think Montenegro should be .Mn, really (or that for the US 
stat of  Minnesota).

Tony

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all tony, all the time

Re: url redirected in chrome/chromium, but working fine, according to ping/traceroute, lynx, w3m, iceweasel.

[Lars Noodén]

On 10/09/2016 02:28 PM, Tony Baldwin wrote:
> 
> 
> On 10/09/2016 07:23 AM, Richard Hector wrote:
>> On 10/10/16 00:20, Tony Baldwin wrote:
>>> What country is .me? here in th US, of course, it could be the State of
>>> Maine.
>>
>> Montenegro, apparently. According to a quick web search ;-)
>>
>> Richard
>>
> 
> Thanks, I was curious, couldn't think of anything, all the Ms I could
> think of were thins like Maroc, Moçambique, Macao, and the like, where
> .ma, .mc, .mo, or some such think would make more sense.
> I kind of think Montenegro should be .Mn, really (or that for the US
> stat of  Minnesota).
> Tony
> 

The complete list is all in ISO-3166.  It has two-letter codes as well
as three-letter codes.  ISO 639, in contrast, covers languages.  I'd
seen some sites mix them up.

Regards,
Lars

Re: need help on pptp config

[Pascal Hambourg]

Le 08/10/2016 à 19:25, Li Wei a écrit :


pptp-linux provides pptpsetup command.
I run pptpsetup with some options and it displays:


Which options ? (you can mask the server address, login and password)

Re: url redirected in chrome/chromium, but working fine, according to ping/traceroute, lynx, w3m, iceweasel.

[Richard Hector]

On 10/10/16 00:28, Tony Baldwin wrote:
> 
> 
> On 10/09/2016 07:23 AM, Richard Hector wrote:
>> On 10/10/16 00:20, Tony Baldwin wrote:
>>> What country is .me? here in th US, of course, it could be the
>>> State of Maine.
>> 
>> Montenegro, apparently. According to a quick web search ;-)
>> 
>> Richard
>> 
> 
> Thanks, I was curious, couldn't think of anything, all the Ms I
> could think of were thins like Maroc, Moçambique, Macao, and the
> like, where .ma, .mc, .mo, or some such think would make more
> sense. I kind of think Montenegro should be .Mn, really (or that
> for the US stat of  Minnesota).

That's Mongolia :-)

It appears that Montenegro only came into existence (most recently) in
2006 - it was part of Yugoslavia, then 'Serbia and Montenegro'. So all
the 'good' codes were presumably taken.

I'm looking here:
http://www.domainsherpa.com/country-code-top-level-domains/

But we're getting a bit off-topic :-)

Richard

Re: url redirected in chrome/chromium, but working fine, according to ping/traceroute, lynx, w3m, iceweasel.

[Tony Baldwin]

On 10/09/2016 07:36 AM, Richard Hector wrote:

On 10/10/16 00:28, Tony Baldwin wrote:




But we're getting a bit off-topic :-)

Richard



Indeed we are, but I thank you for humoring my curiosity.
Thanks,
Tony
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all tony, all the time

Re: url redirected in chrome/chromium, but working fine, according to ping/traceroute, lynx, w3m, iceweasel.

[claude juif]

Are you logged in with a google account on that chrome/chromium ? By the
way, how did you install them ?

To resume :
On your debian computer, only for this website, you get redirect to ads
only with chrome/chromium ?

I would try these :

purge chromium and chrome.
Install chromium and go to your website. (do not log in before).

The only things i can think of is broken extension. I've never see this
happening, it's really strange. If that happens on windows i would have
say, search for malware and delete them.



2016-10-09 15:00 GMT+02:00 Tony Baldwin :

>
>
> On 10/09/2016 07:36 AM, Richard Hector wrote:
>
>> On 10/10/16 00:28, Tony Baldwin wrote:
>>
>
>
>> But we're getting a bit off-topic :-)
>>
>> Richard
>>
>>
> Indeed we are, but I thank you for humoring my curiosity.
> Thanks,
>
> Tony
> --
> http://tonybaldwin.me
> all tony, all the time
>
>

Re: WARNING! New Perl/Perl-base upgrade removes 141 Sid/Unstable packages

[Lisi Reisz]

On Sunday 09 October 2016 06:23:49 claude juif wrote:
> This way of answering is really bad. If you have nothing to say, don't
> write a mail.

I hope that in future you intend to follow your own advice!

Lisi

Re: url redirected in chrome/chromium, but working fine, according to ping/traceroute, lynx, w3m, iceweasel.

[Joe Pfeiffer]

Richard Hector  writes:
>
> It appears that Montenegro only came into existence (most recently) in
> 2006 - it was part of Yugoslavia, then 'Serbia and Montenegro'. So all
> the 'good' codes were presumably taken.

I'd imagine .me would, like .tv (Tuvalo) be one that a small country
could use to bolster their income quite a bit...

> I'm looking here:
> http://www.domainsherpa.com/country-code-top-level-domains/
>
> But we're getting a bit off-topic :-)
>
> Richard

Re: WARNING! New Perl/Perl-base upgrade removes 141 Sid/Unstable packages

[claude juif]

2016-10-09 17:57 GMT+02:00 Lisi Reisz :

> On Sunday 09 October 2016 06:23:49 claude juif wrote:
> > This way of answering is really bad. If you have nothing to say, don't
> > write a mail.
>
> I hope that in future you intend to follow your own advice!
>
> Yep for sure. I unsubscribe in a second and left you in your self
importance.

Lisi
>
>

Re: Nvida Legacy 304 Catastrophe

[Felix Miata]

David Baron composed on 2016-10-09 13:17 (UTC+0300):

> These packages upgraded (though they seem no longer on Debian!). The upgrades
> would not play with opengl2 so plasma would no longer run. Downgrading to
> testing, due to partial removal from the repos, proved impossible. No more
> means to file bugs, either!
 
> So I uninstalled them, went back to Nouveaux (which I might even prefer).
> Plasmashell is unstable, crashes and restarts, and multiple session will not
> work. Could live the a single-session if that be stable.
 
> There had been problems with firefox in nouveaux last year.

> What to do about all this?

Show us output from 'lspci | grep VGA'

If output includes 6150SE, try adding nouveau.config=NvMSI=0 to
kernel cmdline.

Show us output from 'inxi -Fz'

Show us /var/log/Xorg.0.log

Ensure all traces of NVidia driver are purged, including
/etc/X11/xorg.conf which for most people with most gfxchips using
FOSS drivers has not been necessary for several Debian generations.
With proprietary NVidia driver never having been installed, lsmod
output should resemble the following with legacy geforce gfxcard:

button 12944  1 nouveau
drm   249998  5 ttm,drm_kms_helper,nouveau
drm_kms_helper 49210  1 nouveau
i2c_algo_bit   12751  1 nouveau
i2c_core   46012  5 drm,i2c_i801,drm_kms_helper,i2c_algo_bit,nouveau
mxm_wmi12515  1 nouveau
nouveau  1122508  2 
ttm77862  1 nouveau
video  18096  1 nouveau
wmi17339  2 mxm_wmi,nouveau

Ensure kernel cmdline does not include nomodeset.

Ensure nothing to do with nouveau is blacklisted.

If a thorough nvidia purge is insufficient, you might try purging
xserver-xorg-video-nouveau. In Debian Testing and Unstable, this
should cause use of Xorg's built-in modesetting driver. See:
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Ubuntu-Debian-Abandon-Intel-DDX
-- 
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words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation)

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Re: Synaptic NMU upload in testing

[kamaraju kusumanchi]

On Sun, Oct 9, 2016 at 5:59 AM, Brad Rogers  wrote:
> On Sat, 8 Oct 2016 20:05:53 -0400
> kamaraju kusumanchi  wrote:
>
> Hello kamaraju,
>
>>It is working fine for me.
>
> A sort of 'good news / bad news' scenario:  Good news for you, bad news
> for me.
>
> In any case, thanks for letting me know.  It's useful.

Ok. Now we know that problem is local to your machine. Can you attach
the output of

ldd /usr/sbin/synaptic > ldd.txt
apt-rdepends --state-show=Installed --state-follow=Installed synaptic > deps.txt

I am attaching the output from my machine below. Comparing the two
might give us a clue.

> I tried installing
> xapian-tools (I don't routinely install suggests/recommends), no change.

I do not have xapian-tools installed. So that may not be the issue.

hth
raju
linux-vdso.so.1 (0x7ffd914e7000)
libapt-pkg.so.5.0 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libapt-pkg.so.5.0 
(0x7f04c010a000)
libX11.so.6 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libX11.so.6 
(0x7f04bfdc7000)
libapt-inst.so.2.0 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libapt-inst.so.2.0 
(0x7f04bfbba000)
libgtk-3.so.0 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgtk-3.so.0 
(0x7f04bf2ac000)
libgdk-3.so.0 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgdk-3.so.0 
(0x7f04befb5000)
libpangocairo-1.0.so.0 => 
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libpangocairo-1.0.so.0 (0x7f04beda8000)
libatk-1.0.so.0 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libatk-1.0.so.0 
(0x7f04beb82000)
libcairo-gobject.so.2 => 
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libcairo-gobject.so.2 (0x7f04be979000)
libcairo.so.2 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libcairo.so.2 
(0x7f04be65f000)
libgdk_pixbuf-2.0.so.0 => 
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgdk_pixbuf-2.0.so.0 (0x7f04be43c000)
libgio-2.0.so.0 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgio-2.0.so.0 
(0x7f04be0a7000)
libpango-1.0.so.0 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libpango-1.0.so.0 
(0x7f04bde5b000)
libgobject-2.0.so.0 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgobject-2.0.so.0 
(0x7f04bdc08000)
libglib-2.0.so.0 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libglib-2.0.so.0 
(0x7f04bd8f5000)
libvte-2.91.so.0 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libvte-2.91.so.0 
(0x7f04bd6a)
libz.so.1 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libz.so.1 (0x7f04bd485000)
libpcre2-8.so.0 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libpcre2-8.so.0 
(0x7f04bd20c000)
libgnutls.so.30 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgnutls.so.30 
(0x7f04bceaa000)
libutil.so.1 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libutil.so.1 (0x7f04bcca7000)
libpthread.so.0 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libpthread.so.0 
(0x7f04bca8a000)
libept.so.1.aptpkg5.0 => 
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libept.so.1.aptpkg5.0 (0x7f04bc84e000)
libxapian.so.30 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libxapian.so.30 
(0x7f04bc442000)
libstdc++.so.6 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libstdc++.so.6 
(0x7f04bc0c1000)
libm.so.6 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libm.so.6 (0x7f04bbdbd000)
libgcc_s.so.1 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgcc_s.so.1 
(0x7f04bbba7000)
libc.so.6 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6 (0x7f04bb809000)
libdl.so.2 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libdl.so.2 (0x7f04bb605000)
libresolv.so.2 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libresolv.so.2 
(0x7f04bb3ee000)
libbz2.so.1.0 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libbz2.so.1.0 
(0x7f04bb1de000)
liblzma.so.5 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/liblzma.so.5 (0x7f04bafbb000)
liblz4.so.1 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/liblz4.so.1 
(0x7f04bada9000)
libxcb.so.1 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libxcb.so.1 
(0x7f04bab87000)
libgmodule-2.0.so.0 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgmodule-2.0.so.0 
(0x7f04ba983000)
libXi.so.6 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libXi.so.6 (0x7f04ba773000)
libXcomposite.so.1 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libXcomposite.so.1 
(0x7f04ba57)
libXdamage.so.1 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libXdamage.so.1 
(0x7f04ba36d000)
libXfixes.so.3 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libXfixes.so.3 
(0x7f04ba167000)
libatk-bridge-2.0.so.0 => 
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libatk-bridge-2.0.so.0 (0x7f04b9f38000)
libxkbcommon.so.0 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libxkbcommon.so.0 
(0x7f04b9cf8000)
libwayland-cursor.so.0 => 
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libwayland-cursor.so.0 (0x7f04b9af)
libwayland-egl.so.1 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libwayland-egl.so.1 
(0x7f04b98ee000)
libwayland-client.so.0 => 
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libwayland-client.so.0 (0x7f04b96df000)
libepoxy.so.0 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libepoxy.so.0 
(0x7f04b93eb000)
libpangoft2-1.0.so.0 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libpangoft2-1.0.so.0 
(0x7f04b91d5000)
libfontconfig.so.1 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libfontconfig.so.1 
(0x7f04b8f98000)
libfreetype.so.6 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libfreetype.so.6 
(0x7f04b8cee00

Re: url redirected in chrome/chromium, but working fine, according to ping/traceroute, lynx, w3m, iceweasel.

[Tony Baldwin]

On 10/09/2016 11:54 AM, claude juif wrote:
Are you logged in with a google account on that chrome/chromium ? By 
the way, how did you install them ?


I WAS logged into my google account when I had the problem,  in fact, 
but eventually determined that when I logged out, I could load the 
proper page for the url, oddly.
I installed chromium with aptitude, google-chrome-stable by downloading 
google's .deb pkg and doing sudo dpkg -i $said-google-pkg.deb


To resume :
On your debian computer, only for this website, you get redirect to 
ads only with chrome/chromium ?


That is correct, Iceweasel, w3m, lynx and e-links all load the proper 
page/site.
Chrome and dolphin on my android phone do fine, as well, but apparently 
chrome on iOS (what my brother was using when he found the problem), 
does not.


I would try these :

purge chromium and chrome.
Install chromium and go to your website. (do not log in before).

The only things i can think of is broken extension. I've never see 
this happening, it's really strange. If that happens on windows i 
would have say, search for malware and delete them.




2016-10-09 15:00 GMT+02:00 Tony Baldwin >:




On 10/09/2016 07:36 AM, Richard Hector wrote:

On 10/10/16 00:28, Tony Baldwin wrote:



But we're getting a bit off-topic :-)

Richard


Indeed we are, but I thank you for humoring my curiosity.
Thanks,

Tony
-- 
http://tonybaldwin.me

all tony, all the time





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all tony, all the time

Re: {Solved} Synaptic NMU upload in testing

[Brad Rogers]

On Sun, 9 Oct 2016 13:35:14 -0400
kamaraju kusumanchi  wrote:

Hello kamaraju,

>ldd /usr/sbin/synaptic > ldd.txt
>apt-rdepends --state-show=Installed --state-follow=Installed synaptic >
>deps.txt

If you don't mind, I won't do that, since I've managed to get synaptic
working now.  Based on what I've done today, it would serve little
purpose to paste the requested outputs here.  Plus, I'm a little
reluctant to post large(ish) text files to the list, as not everyone
likes such things.

I had done a little searching yesterday, but couldn't get any hits for
the exact error I was getting, so dismissed the solutions offered.
However, during more extended searching today, one suggestion kept
cropping up;
 'as root, run "update-apt-xapian-index"'.

Although that was usually suggested in reference to the following
problem; 'Xapian::DatabaseModifiedError Aborted (core dumped)'

I decided to run the command anyway.  I then upgraded synaptic to
0.83+nmu1, which now runs.

>> xapian-tools (I don't routinely install suggests/recommends), no
>> change.  
>I do not have xapian-tools installed. So that may not be the issue.

That's was my point.  Probably poorly expressed.

Your help with this problem is greatly appreciated.  I would not have
solved this without your pushing me along.  In the process, you've taught
me some useful lessons to help trace problems.  For that, I'm doubly
grateful.

-- 
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/ _)radnever immediately apparent"
An old custom to sell your daughter
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Re: url redirected in chrome/chromium, but working fine, according to ping/traceroute, lynx, w3m, iceweasel.

[rhkramer]

I'm not the OP, and I'm sort of piggybacking and going somewhat (or a lot?) 
OT, but I am curious about how old inet4 (right term?) and the new inet6 
addresses interact.

When I do ifconfig, I see that eth0 has both a 32 bit (e.g., 192.168.1.19) and 
an inet6 address assigned.

Can anybody point me to a fairly short document that explains things like 
which gets used under what circumstances, does one have precedence over the 
other, do they both use DNS, and similar things which might let me make sense 
of the situation?

On Sunday, October 09, 2016 03:02:25 PM Tony Baldwin wrote:
> On 10/09/2016 11:54 AM, claude juif wrote:
> > Are you logged in with a google account on that chrome/chromium ? By
> > the way, how did you install them ?
>

Re: Partial Success [was: Re: Problems with upgrade from Wheezy to Jessie]

[Brian]

On Sat 08 Oct 2016 at 13:50:19 +0200, Hans Kraus wrote:

> after following the propositions of Brian:
> >
> > dpkg -l | grep fglrx
> >
> >Lines with "ii" indicate installed packages. Purge and see what a reboot
> >does.
> and Jörg-Volker Peetz:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I also saw the other e-mail exchange with Brian where you concluded to
> purge all
> > "fglrx"-related packages. Similarily, there seem to be "nvidia" packages
> on your
> > system. Try
> >
> >  dpkg -l | grep -i nvidia
> >
> > Purge them also. Then have a look which xorg-video drivers are left:
> >
> >  dpkg -l | grep xorg-video
> >
> > Leave only xserver-xorg-video-radeon on the system.
> >
> > And have a look if there's still an "glx-alternative" package left, like
> > glx-alternative-mesa. This could also be purged.
> 
> I issued:

[Account of package purging snipped]

> Which partially solved my problems. The system is now booting into Gnome
> again.

This is a fantastic step forwards. Before you had nothing, now you have
something. Why the original issue occured is a mystery. Why it was cured
is also a mystery.

> A problem remains: the contents of the screen (I controlled only text
> based ones like Thunderbird) are sometimes overwritten. This happens for
> lines where the text is partially overwritten with other text (normally
> or skewed) and line backgrounds. The contents are restored if I move the
> mouse pointer to the distorted parts.
> 
> This looks like a driver issue to me. Is there a better mailing list to
> cope with these problems as 'debian-user'?

But now the proposition is very different. We know you cannot have that
much of a driver problem because you can boot into GNOME. But you think
you have. Maybe its so. Let's eliminate GNOME.

Boot and do 'ps ax | grep xinit'. Kill xinit with 'kill process_number'.
Install fvwm and xterm (you can purge them later). Issue the command
'startx'. Check that nothing gnomish is running with 'ps ax | grep gnome.

Start an xterm (right or left click, I forget which). Any problems?
Start iceweasel (firefox) from an xterm. Any problems? Read a few man
pages. Any problems? Play with opening any program on your system. Any
problems? Which program? What are the symptoms?

-- 
Brian.

Re: kernel 4.7.0 and nvidia

[Boyan Penkov]

Hey folks,

OK, here was the procedure (as a reminder, I’m on stretch, testing):

— boot into 4.6, verify everything works, purge both 4.7 kernel and 4.7 
headers, purge all nvidia-* (and nvidia-dkms was indeed installed)

— purge xserver-xorg-video-nvidia

— install xserver-xorg-xideo-nvidia and nvidia-driver (which pulls in 
nvidia-dmks as a dependency, among others)

— I’m still booted into 4.6, so watch the install script build nvidia-dmks 
package for 4.6 only.

— reboot (into the only kernel I have: 4.6), verify all is ok

— install 4.7 and 4.7 headers.  I observed that the install script and 
post-install hook did not rebuild nvidia-dkms for 4.7

— reboot into 4.7  and everything works.

So, to wrap up: I’m happy for now, but I clearly don’t understand something 
about how nvidia-dmks built for 4.6 also functions on 4.7  Did we get lucky 
here, or do we need a bug filed to get the post-install script to check what 
kernels are there and build the kms accordingly?

Thanks for your individual help off-list as well.

Cheers!
--
Boyan Penkov
www.boyanpenkov.com

> On Oct 6, 2016, at 1:34 PM, Pascal Obry  wrote:
> 
> Le jeudi 06 octobre 2016 à 08:55 +0200, gianluca a écrit :
>> Are the opensource nouveau drivers so bad, so you need closed-source 
>> blob??? If so, that's your choice. But do not ask why something is
>> not working as execpted if you upgrade something on the kernel-side.
> 
> You may also say this without being harsh.
> 
> A possibility (and that's my case) is that I'm using NVIDIA proprietary
> driver as I need OpenCL support and AFAIK there is no OpenCL support
> with the Nouveau driver.
> 
> Anyway on my side I'm also on the 4.7 kernel (Debian/sid) and have no
> problem with the dkms nvidia package.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> -- 
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> 
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> 
>   http://www.obry.net
> 
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Unsubscribing in order to killfile one individual. Was: Re: WARNING! New Perl/Perl-base upgrade removes 141 Sid/Unstable packages

[Lisi Reisz]

On Sunday 09 October 2016 17:22:07 claude juif wrote:
> 2016-10-09 17:57 GMT+02:00 Lisi Reisz :
> > On Sunday 09 October 2016 06:23:49 claude juif wrote:
> > > This way of answering is really bad. If you have nothing to say, don't
> > > write a mail.
> >
> > I hope that in future you intend to follow your own advice!
> >
> > Yep for sure. I unsubscribe in a second and left you in your self
>
> importance.

Assuming that you haven't yet carried out your threat, isn't it a bit dramatic 
and OTT to unsubscribe from the list just to get rid of me?  Why not just 
killfile me and go on reading everyone else?

Lisi

Re: Synaptic NMU upload in testing

[Jimmy Johnson]

On 10/09/2016 02:59 AM, Brad Rogers wrote:

On Sat, 8 Oct 2016 20:05:53 -0400
kamaraju kusumanchi  wrote:

Hello kamaraju,


It is working fine for me.


A sort of 'good news / bad news' scenario:  Good news for you, bad news
for me.

In any case, thanks for letting me know.  It's useful.


% dpkg -l libxapian30 synaptic | grep ^ii
ii  libxapian30:amd64 1.4.0-2  amd64Search engine library
ii  synaptic  0.83+nmu1amd64Graphical package


Same.

I have similar to lines yours in sources.list, too.


% su-to-root -X -c synaptic


The same.

So, this points to a local problem, it seems.  I tried installing
xapian-tools (I don't routinely install suggests/recommends), no change.

Frankly, I've no idea where to go from here.

Thanks again for replying.


Brad just wanted to let you know your not the only one, I did a 
'safe-upgrade' the other day using sid/testing and my nvidia 304 blew-up 
with a segfault, installing the debian free driver did not help, back to 
the debian nvidia driver, 'plasma is unable to start as could not 
correctly use opengl 2', I sacrificed a second good plasma system with 
today's fully clean upgrade, same problem.  Problem was solved with 
installing 'task-xfce-desktop', I look forward for solutions to the 
plasma dilemma.

--
Jimmy Johnson

Debian Wheezy - KDE 4.8.4 - AMD64 - EXT4 at sda1
Registered Linux User #380263

Re: {Solved} Synaptic NMU upload in testing

[kamaraju kusumanchi]

On Sun, Oct 9, 2016 at 3:18 PM, Brad Rogers  wrote:
>
> I had done a little searching yesterday, but couldn't get any hits for
> the exact error I was getting, so dismissed the solutions offered.
> However, during more extended searching today, one suggestion kept
> cropping up;
>  'as root, run "update-apt-xapian-index"'.
>
> Although that was usually suggested in reference to the following
> problem; 'Xapian::DatabaseModifiedError Aborted (core dumped)'
>
> I decided to run the command anyway.  I then upgraded synaptic to
> 0.83+nmu1, which now runs.
>

Interesting. Good to know.

> Your help with this problem is greatly appreciated.  I would not have
> solved this without your pushing me along.  In the process, you've taught
> me some useful lessons to help trace problems.  For that, I'm doubly
> grateful.

Thanks for the kind words. I also learned about
update-apt-xapian-index command. So it is mutually beneficial!

raju
-- 
Kamaraju S Kusumanchi | http://raju.shoutwiki.com/wiki/Blog

Re: Unsubscribing in order to killfile one individual. Was: Re: WARNING! New Perl/Perl-base upgrade removes 141 Sid/Unstable packages

[Bob Bernstein]

On Mon, 10 Oct 2016, Lisi Reisz wrote:


Why not just killfile me and go on reading everyone else?


Umm...cuz he doesn't know how to do that? Perhaps?

One thing's fer sure, he's giving the time-honored tradition of 
killfiles a bad name!


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