Re: googleearth-package (jessie)

[Petter Adsen]

On Sat, 3 Oct 2015 00:21:44 -0500
rlhar...@oplink.net wrote:

> On Wed, September 30, 2015 1:08 am, Heracles wrote:
> > I just installed Google-Earth using "synaptic" in Debian8 and it worked
> > fine. It had to install a few other bits and pieces but as it did all the
> > work I was fine with it. Google-earth works without errors. Heracles
> 
> Heracles,
> 
> Would you be so kind as to outline the procedure for using synaptic to
> install the .deb package which I downloaded from the Google Earth web
> site?
> 
> I use synaptic all the time, but always with packages which are in the
> Debian repositories.  I searched and saw that some people are installing
> using "dpkg -i"; but does that take care of dependencies?
> 
> I plan to run GE on a i386 laptop, so the package which I downloaded is
> the 32-bit:
> 
>google-earth-stable_current_i386.deb

Use gdebi. That will handle dependencies.

Petter

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Re: KDE file copy to usb device without file cache

[Thomas Schmitt]

Hi,

Serkan KURT wrote:
> I use sync but how can i this with GUI for newbie users?

Find or make a GUI tool which uses fsync(2) or fflush(3) on
the output file before closing it.

But probably that's not the decisive point here.

If it is about a mounted filesystem, then your question should
rather be how to properly unmount the device before removing it.
Unmounting is supposed to flush pending filesystem data.


> ACTION=="remove", KERNEL=="sd[a-z][0-9]", RUN+="su -l $USER -c 
> '/usr/bin/pumount %k'"

If this is triggered by hot unplugging of the USB device
then pumount(1) of course cannot flush. It can only remove
the debris in the running system.

Somehow the user has to announce the intention to pull the
plug. (Optical drives with tray motor can report their eject
button being pressed and then wait for the system to send an
eject command. But laptop drives normally have manual trays.)


> ACTION=="add",KERNEL=="sd[a-z][0-9]", RUN+="su -l $USER '/usr/bin/pmount 
> --sync --umask 000 %k'"

Are you sure that this action is really performed and
not later overridden by another pmount run ?

Does "pmount --sync" yield the desired behavior if you
execute it manually (after pumount of the automatic mount) ?

The description of option --sync does not look appealing.
Decent performance can be expected only if you write a small
number of files (which may be large in size).
man 8 mount warns:
  sync   All I/O to the filesystem should be done synchronously.  In  the
 case  of  media with a limited number of write cycles (e.g. some
 flash drives), sync may cause life-cycle shortening.

But if the kids shall be able to pull the plug at any time ...


Have a nice day :)

Thomas

Re: KDE file copy to usb device without file cache

[Tony van der Hoff]

On 03/10/15 00:02, Serkan KURT wrote:
> How can i a file copy to usb device without file cache?
> KDE notifier shows copy completed but actually copy process does not
> finished.
> 
> 
> How can I solve it?
> 
> Debian Jessie amd64, KDE.

In KDE click on the USB icon in the task bar, and then click on the
"safely remove" (uparrow) before removing USB device.

You should get into the habit of doing this each time you remove a USB
device.

-- 
Tony van der Hoff| mailto:t...@vanderhoff.org
Buckinghamshire, England |

Re: KDE file copy to usb device without file cache

[Stuart Longland]

On 03/10/15 18:31, Thomas Schmitt wrote:
> If it is about a mounted filesystem, then your question should
> rather be how to properly unmount the device before removing it.
> Unmounting is supposed to flush pending filesystem data.

I would concur here… yanking a removable storage device just after the
host has written to it without first informing the computer that it's
about to lose said device is just asking for it.

Macintosh computers required you to "eject" the media via the OS,
sometimes achieved by dragging the icon for the mounted media to the
"trash".

Windows computers (modern ones) have a system tray icon for "safely
removing" media.

Under KDE, pretty sure removable devices have an "unmount" option when
you right-click on them.
-- 
Stuart Longland (aka Redhatter, VK4MSL)

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  ...it's backed up on a tape somewhere.



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Mouse blanker?

[Gene Heskett]

Greetings all;

One of the things that are a little bit like being nibbled to death by 
ducks, is the lack of a mouse blanker in linux, something that was part 
of and automatic in Amigados 20 years ago.

I'm refering of course to shutting the mouses pointer image off when you 
start typing in an editor, and only bring it back when the typing has 
stopped because you reached for and moved the mouse a few pixels.

I haven't a clue how many times I have clicked on the spot where I wanted 
to insert some text, only to have to stop and move the mouse off it so I 
can see what I typed. It can be a distracting, even maddening 
interruption in ones train of thought.

Is there such a critter, and I just don't know how to activate it?

Thanks for any suggestions to activate this.

Cheers, Gene Heskett
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Genes Web page 

Re: Mouse blanker?

[Charlie]

On Sat, 3 Oct 2015 09:16:11 -0400 Gene Heskett sent:

> One of the things that are a little bit like being nibbled to death
> by ducks, is the lack of a mouse blanker in linux, something that was
> part of and automatic in Amigados 20 years ago.
> 
> I'm refering of course to shutting the mouses pointer image off when
> you start typing in an editor, and only bring it back when the typing
> has stopped because you reached for and moved the mouse a few pixels.
> 
> I haven't a clue how many times I have clicked on the spot where I
> wanted to insert some text, only to have to stop and move the mouse
> off it so I can see what I typed. It can be a distracting, even
> maddening interruption in ones train of thought.
> 
> Is there such a critter, and I just don't know how to activate it?

I think unclutter is what you seek?

Charlie

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Re: USB storage devices not being recognized

[Gary Dale]

On 02/10/15 05:35 PM, Floris wrote:
Op Fri, 02 Oct 2015 18:34:10 +0200 schreef Gary Dale 
:


I'm running an up to date Stretch/AMD64 system with Plasma desktop. I 
just plugged in my camera through its USB cable but didn't get a 
notification window.


The camera shows up in lsusb but there is no storage device showing 
when I try ls /dev/sd*.


I took the SD card out from the camera and put it in a USB SD 
adapter. The device shows up in lsusb and ls /dev/sd* but not the media.


The media works fine in the camera. I can take pictures and review 
previously taken pictures so I believe the problem is with Stretch.


Has anyone seen this problem or know of a fix?



What is the name and the brand of the camera?
And can you post the output of
 journalctl -r
(The first 20 lines should be enough)
after you have plugged the camera in?

success,

floris

Don't have it handy right now, but the problem doesn't appear to be the 
camera (Canon SX100). It used to work. Moreover the card isn't readable 
in a USB SD card reader. Again it used to work.


I'll get the camera and post the results later. Tied up right now.

Re: Mouse blanker?

[Gene Heskett]

On Saturday 03 October 2015 09:37:37 Charlie wrote:

> On Sat, 3 Oct 2015 09:16:11 -0400 Gene Heskett sent:
> > One of the things that are a little bit like being nibbled to death
> > by ducks, is the lack of a mouse blanker in linux, something that
> > was part of and automatic in Amigados 20 years ago.
> >
> > I'm refering of course to shutting the mouses pointer image off when
> > you start typing in an editor, and only bring it back when the
> > typing has stopped because you reached for and moved the mouse a few
> > pixels.
> >
> > I haven't a clue how many times I have clicked on the spot where I
> > wanted to insert some text, only to have to stop and move the mouse
> > off it so I can see what I typed. It can be a distracting, even
> > maddening interruption in ones train of thought.
> >
> > Is there such a critter, and I just don't know how to activate it?
>
> I think unclutter is what you seek?
>
> Charlie

Maybe Charley, but the command "unclutter -keystroke" which should do 
what I want according to the manpage, does not, it just hangs that shell 
till I hit a ctrl+c.  Launched with an & after it does return, but the 
mouse pointer is also unaffected.  What am I missing?  "Aha, sudo 
unclutter -keystroke" does work, apparently globally. But only once, now 
it has stopped working. But it was still running, so I killed it. But a 
relaunch, as root, backgrounded with a -reset -idle 1 & set of arguments 
does appear to be working.

Thanks Charley, I think it will do a similar job with a -idle at a 
setting of .25 seconds.  Not exactly instant like Amigados did it, but 
close enough for the girls I go with. :)

Cheers, Gene Heskett
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 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Genes Web page 

Re: googleearth-package (jessie)

[Lisi Reisz]

On Saturday 03 October 2015 06:21:44 rlhar...@oplink.net wrote:
>  I searched and saw that some people are installing
> using "dpkg -i"; but does that take care of dependencies?

No.  But try:

# dpkg -i foo.deb

Which will probably complain about dependencies, then:

# apt-get -f install
Which will sort out the dependencies and finish installing foo.deb.

I just tried it for the first time, and it worked a treat.

Otherwise, list the missing dependencies and install them manually!  (Or with 
Synaptic.)

Lisi

Re: Mouse blanker?

[Mike Castle]

Well, -idle 0 will hide it right away.  But it'll get lots of false
positives about thinking you've stopped moving the mouse.

And unclutter has been around for just over 23 years now.

mrc

Re: googleearth-package (jessie)

[Curt]

On 2015-10-03, Lisi Reisz  wrote:
> On Saturday 03 October 2015 06:21:44 rlhar...@oplink.net wrote:
>>  I searched and saw that some people are installing
>> using "dpkg -i"; but does that take care of dependencies?
>
> No.  But try:
>
> # dpkg -i foo.deb
>
> Which will probably complain about dependencies, then:
>
> # apt-get -f install
> Which will sort out the dependencies and finish installing foo.deb.
>
> I just tried it for the first time, and it worked a treat.

> Otherwise, list the missing dependencies and install them manually!  (Or with 
> Synaptic.)

Didn't someone mention gdebi?  

 Description: Simple tool to install deb files - GNOME GUI
 gdebi lets you install local deb packages resolving and installing
 its dependencies. apt does the same, but only for remote (http, ftp)
 located packages.

I think it was Petter (not sure of spelling).

> Lisi
>
>


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Re: googleearth-package (jessie)

[Lisi Reisz]

On Saturday 03 October 2015 18:18:08 Curt wrote:
> On 2015-10-03, Lisi Reisz  wrote:
> > On Saturday 03 October 2015 06:21:44 rlhar...@oplink.net wrote:
> >>  I searched and saw that some people are installing
> >> using "dpkg -i"; but does that take care of dependencies?
> >
> > No.  But try:
> >
> > # dpkg -i foo.deb
> >
> > Which will probably complain about dependencies, then:
> >
> > # apt-get -f install
> > Which will sort out the dependencies and finish installing foo.deb.
> >
> > I just tried it for the first time, and it worked a treat.
> >
> > Otherwise, list the missing dependencies and install them manually!  (Or
> > with Synaptic.)
>
> Didn't someone mention gdebi?

Yes. 

So are you saying that only solutions applicable to GNOME, and nothing else, 
are allowed on this list now?  Do we actually know that the OP uses Gnome?  
That all future readers of the archives will use Gnome?

And are you saying that only those prepared to offer GUI solutions are allowed 
to answer questions specifically about CLI problems, in this case, in this 
post, specifically dpkg -i?

Lisi

>  Description: Simple tool to install deb files - GNOME GUI
>  gdebi lets you install local deb packages resolving and installing
>  its dependencies. apt does the same, but only for remote (http, ftp)
>  located packages.
>
> I think it was Petter (not sure of spelling).
>
> > Lisi

Re: googleearth-package (jessie)

[rlharris]

On Sat, October 3, 2015 2:51 am, Petter Adsen wrote:
> On Sat, 3 Oct 2015 00:21:44 -0500
> rlhar...@oplink.net wrote:
...
>> Would you be so kind as to outline the procedure for using synaptic to
>> install the .deb package which I downloaded from the Google Earth web
>> site?
...
> Use gdebi. That will handle dependencies.


That was almost too easy.  What a marvelous little package!  But this is
first time I have heard of it.

Many thanks; I now am running GE/Xfce/Jessie on my i386 laptop.

Russ

Re: googleearth-package (jessie)

[Lisi Reisz]

On Saturday 03 October 2015 19:50:18 Lisi Reisz wrote:
> Do we actually know that the OP uses Gnome?  
> That all future readers of the archives will use Gnome?

The OP has since posted.  I was forgetting that several other desktops use 
Gnome applications.  But I still maintain that a CLI answer to a CLI question 
is worth having in the archives.

Lisi

Re: googleearth-package (jessie)

[rlharris]

On Sat, October 3, 2015 2:06 pm, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> On Saturday 03 October 2015 19:50:18 Lisi Reisz wrote:
>> Do we actually know that the OP uses Gnome?  
>> That all future readers of the archives will use Gnome?
> I was forgetting that several other desktops
> use Gnome applications.  But I still maintain that a CLI answer to a CLI
> question is worth having in the archives.

Perhaps I missed something, but

(1) is gdebi a Gnome package? and

(2) what is not CLI about the command:

~/Downloads # gdebi gnome-earth-stable_current_i386.deb

Russ

Re: googleearth-package (jessie)

[Erwan David]

Le 03/10/2015 21:21, rlhar...@oplink.net a écrit :
> On Sat, October 3, 2015 2:06 pm, Lisi Reisz wrote:
>> On Saturday 03 October 2015 19:50:18 Lisi Reisz wrote:
>>> Do we actually know that the OP uses Gnome? Â 
>>> That all future readers of the archives will use Gnome?
>> I was forgetting that several other desktops
>> use Gnome applications.  But I still maintain that a CLI answer to a CLI
>> question is worth having in the archives.
> Perhaps I missed something, but
>
> (1) is gdebi a Gnome package? and
>
> (2) what is not CLI about the command:
>
> ~/Downloads # gdebi gnome-earth-stable_current_i386.deb
>
> Russ
>
>
>

the gdebi package contains the gnome version, the cli is in gdebi-core.
There is also a kde version in gdebi-kde

Maybe a wishlist bug for renaming the packages, since it is strange the
gdebi command is not in the gdebi package.

Re: googleearth-package (jessie)

[Wayne Topa]

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Idea a1
On Oct 3, 2015 4:28 PM, "Erwan David"  wrote:

> Le 03/10/2015 21:21, rlhar...@oplink.net a écrit :
> > On Sat, October 3, 2015 2:06 pm, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> >> On Saturday 03 October 2015 19:50:18 Lisi Reisz wrote:
> >>> Do we actually know that the OP uses Gnome? Â
> >>> That all future readers of the archives will use Gnome?
> >> I was forgetting that several other desktops
> >> use Gnome applications.  But I still maintain that a CLI answer to a CLI
> >> question is worth having in the archives.
> > Perhaps I missed something, but
> >
> > (1) is gdebi a Gnome package? and
> >
> > (2) what is not CLI about the command:
> >
> > ~/Downloads # gdebi gnome-earth-stable_current_i386.deb
> >
> > Russ
> >
> >
> >
>
> the gdebi package contains the gnome version, the cli is in gdebi-core.
> There is also a kde version in gdebi-kde
>
> Maybe a wishlist bug for renaming the packages, since it is strange the
> gdebi command is not in the gdebi package.
>
>

Re: googleearth-package (jessie)

[Lisi Reisz]

On Saturday 03 October 2015 20:21:55 rlhar...@oplink.net wrote:
> On Sat, October 3, 2015 2:06 pm, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> > On Saturday 03 October 2015 19:50:18 Lisi Reisz wrote:
> >> Do we actually know that the OP uses Gnome?  
> >> That all future readers of the archives will use Gnome?
> >
> > I was forgetting that several other desktops
> > use Gnome applications.  But I still maintain that a CLI answer to a CLI
> > question is worth having in the archives.
>
> Perhaps I missed something, but
>
> (1) is gdebi a Gnome package? and

Curt said it was:  Simple tool to install deb files - GNOME GUI
>
> (2) what is not CLI about the command:
>
Nothing.  I stand corrected.  But almost all references to it, including 
aptitude show and its name, refer to its graphical user interface.

> Simple tool to install deb files - **GNOME GUI**

> ~/Downloads # gdebi gnome-earth-stable_current_i386.deb

I also thought that the package you were trying to install was 
called "googleearth".  It says so in the subject line.  Ah!  A search 
suggests that you did actually mean googleearth not gnome-earth.

"gdebi is a simple tool to install deb files. It lets you install local deb 
packages resolving and installing. its dependencies. apt does the same, but 
only for remote (http, ftp) located package repositories. It has a graphical 
user interface but can also be used in your terminal."

I had not gathered the last few words.  It is obviously a very useful tool.  
But it raises another question.  Why is it called "GNOME GUI", which it does 
seem to be consistently, if it is neither a Gnome tool nor a GUI one??

I've only just gravitated to apt-get -f install.  I obviously need to 
gravitate to gdebi.  

Lisi

Re: Mouse blanker?

[Gene Heskett]

On Saturday 03 October 2015 13:07:46 Mike Castle wrote:

> Well, -idle 0 will hide it right away.  But it'll get lots of false
> positives about thinking you've stopped moving the mouse.
>
> And unclutter has been around for just over 23 years now.
>
> mrc

It should be installed by the installer and enabled by default. ;-)

And all of us old Amigados people who have never had a windows machine 
for more than a week, would all be bowing and scraping in deference to 
the author.  That was one of the 2 things I lost when I made the 
transition to linux in 1998, the other was the instability of Amigados, 
sometimes crashing several times a day.

Cheers, Gene Heskett
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 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Genes Web page 

Re: googleearth-package (jessie)

[Lisi Reisz]

On Saturday 03 October 2015 20:27:47 Erwan David wrote:
> Le 03/10/2015 21:21, rlhar...@oplink.net a écrit :
> > On Sat, October 3, 2015 2:06 pm, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> >> On Saturday 03 October 2015 19:50:18 Lisi Reisz wrote:
> >>> Do we actually know that the OP uses Gnome? Â
> >>> That all future readers of the archives will use Gnome?
> >>
> >> I was forgetting that several other desktops
> >> use Gnome applications.  But I still maintain that a CLI answer to a CLI
> >> question is worth having in the archives.
> >
> > Perhaps I missed something, but
> >
> > (1) is gdebi a Gnome package? and
> >
> > (2) what is not CLI about the command:
> >
> > ~/Downloads # gdebi gnome-earth-stable_current_i386.deb
> >
> > Russ
>
> the gdebi package contains the gnome version, the cli is in gdebi-core.
> There is also a kde version in gdebi-kde
>
> Maybe a wishlist bug for renaming the packages, since it is strange the
> gdebi command is not in the gdebi package.

Thanks, Erwan for the explanation.  So I haven't quite gone mad, and aptitude 
search explains all.  gdebi GNOME GUI is indeed a Gnome GUI tool.  But the 
gdebi command is, according to aptitude search, in gdebi-core, which I have 
installed.  I have not installed either of the GUI packages.  I'll see 
whether it works next time I have a .deb to install.

Lisi

Re: googleearth-package (jessie)

[The Wanderer]

On 2015-10-03 at 16:56, Lisi Reisz wrote:

> "gdebi is a simple tool to install deb files. It lets you install local deb 
> packages resolving and installing. its dependencies. apt does the same, but 
> only for remote (http, ftp) located package repositories. It has a graphical 
> user interface but can also be used in your terminal."
> 
> I had not gathered the last few words.  It is obviously a very useful tool.  
> But it raises another question.  Why is it called "GNOME GUI", which it does 
> seem to be consistently, if it is neither a Gnome tool nor a GUI one??

There are three relevant packages here:

$ apt-cache search gdebi | grep gdebi
gdebi - simple tool to view and install deb files - GNOME GUI
gdebi-core - simple tool to install deb files
gdebi-kde - simple tool to install deb files - KDE GUI

The CLI to gdebi is in the gdebi-core package. There are two GUIs
available, which are in separate packages, which are labeled
appropriately.


It would probably be more appropriate if the three packages were named
'gdebi-gnome', 'gdebi-cli', and 'gdebi-kde', respectively, with the
unadorned 'gdebi' being either a metapackage or a virtual package. (And
possibly with a separate 'gdebi-core' or 'gdebi-common' package for the
shared elements, which are currently in the same package as the CLI.)

The maintainer has not chosen to do it that way, however, and the
current approach does make some amount of sense.

-- 
   The Wanderer

The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one
persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all
progress depends on the unreasonable man. -- George Bernard Shaw



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Re: googleearth-package (jessie)

[rlharris]

On Sat, October 3, 2015 3:56 pm, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> I also thought that the package you were trying to install was
> called "googleearth".  It says so in the subject line.  Ah!  A search
> suggests that you did actually mean googleearth not gnome-earth.

As best as I can put together the pieces, some time ago Google created a
Debian package of Google Earth (gnome-earth-stable_current_i386.deb); the
package is available for download from http://www.google.com/earth/.  But
until recently, Debian users have experienced difficulty installing the
package and some have found the program problematic, once installed.

So, someone in the realm of Debian put together a package called
"googleearth-package", the function of which is to (1) download from the
Google web site the latest stable revision of Google Earth, (2) from it
build a new Debian package, and (3) install the new Debian package.  That
appears to have been a good solution.

However, pretty much coincident with the advent of Jessie, the
"gnome-earth-stable_current_i386.deb" package provided by Google appears
to install and run properly, at least when installed with the command
"gdebi gnome-earth-stable_current_i386.deb".

So, at the present time, it appears that the need for
"googleearth-package" has passed -- at least with respect to Jessie (and
in my case, with the combination of Xfce on an i386 system).  Direct
installation with gdebi is simpler and faster.

P.S. I am posting this to the list simply because the knowledge would have
saved me a number of hours of search and trial and error.

Russ

Re: googleearth-package (jessie)

[Lisi Reisz]

On Saturday 03 October 2015 22:30:28 rlhar...@oplink.net wrote:
> On Sat, October 3, 2015 3:56 pm, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> > I also thought that the package you were trying to install was
> > called "googleearth".  It says so in the subject line.  Ah!  A search
> > suggests that you did actually mean googleearth not gnome-earth.
>
> As best as I can put together the pieces, some time ago Google created a
> Debian package of Google Earth (gnome-earth-stable_current_i386.deb); the
> package is available for download from http://www.google.com/earth/.  But
> until recently, Debian users have experienced difficulty installing the
> package and some have found the program problematic, once installed.

The Google site, at the place referenced by your URL, has just offered to let 
me download (copied and pasted to avoid typos)

google-earth-stable_current_amd64.deb

No mention of Gnome.

Lisi
>
> So, someone in the realm of Debian put together a package called
> "googleearth-package", the function of which is to (1) download from the
> Google web site the latest stable revision of Google Earth, (2) from it
> build a new Debian package, and (3) install the new Debian package.  That
> appears to have been a good solution.
>
> However, pretty much coincident with the advent of Jessie, the
> "gnome-earth-stable_current_i386.deb" package provided by Google appears
> to install and run properly, at least when installed with the command
> "gdebi gnome-earth-stable_current_i386.deb".
>
> So, at the present time, it appears that the need for
> "googleearth-package" has passed -- at least with respect to Jessie (and
> in my case, with the combination of Xfce on an i386 system).  Direct
> installation with gdebi is simpler and faster.
>
> P.S. I am posting this to the list simply because the knowledge would have
> saved me a number of hours of search and trial and error.
>
> Russ

Re: Mouse blanker?

[Mike Castle]

Installed by default, meh.

But I'm pretty sure it is enabled by default.

cat /etc/X11/Xsession.d/90unclutter
# /etc/X11/Xsession.d/90unclutter
# This file is sourced by Xsession(5), not executed.

if [ -e /etc/default/unclutter ]
then
. /etc/default/unclutter
fi

if [ -x /usr/bin/unclutter ] && [ "${START_UNCLUTTER}" = "true" ]
then
/usr/bin/unclutter ${EXTRA_OPTS} &
fi

Re: googleearth-package (jessie)

[rlharris]

On Sat, October 3, 2015 4:34 pm, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> The Google site, at the place referenced by your URL, has just offered to
> let me download (copied and pasted to avoid typos)
>
> google-earth-stable_current_amd64.deb

The Google web site detected that you are running an amd64 system, so it
automatically offered you the amd64 version of Google Earth.

I happended to visit the site while running an i386 system, so the site
offered me the i386 version.

But with a bit of searching through the site, you can download the amd64
version or the i386 version -- or both, if you wish.  And I think that you
can do so even if you are running W$ at the time.

Russ

Re: googleearth-package (jessie)

[John Hasler]

rlharris writes:
> So, at the present time, it appears that the need for
> "googleearth-package" has passed -- at least with respect to Jessie
> (and in my case, with the combination of Xfce on an i386 system).
> Direct installation with gdebi is simpler and faster.

What about those whose computers are Gnome free?
-- 
John Hasler 
jhas...@newsguy.com
Elmwood, WI USA

Re: googleearth-package (jessie)

[rlharris]

On Sat, October 3, 2015 4:45 pm, John Hasler wrote:
> rlharris writes:
>> So, at the present time, it appears that the need for
>> "googleearth-package" has passed -- at least with respect to Jessie
>> (and in my case, with the combination of Xfce on an i386 system).
>> Direct installation with gdebi is simpler and faster.
>
> What about those whose computers are Gnome free?

All I know is that when I installed Jessie, I specified only the Xcfe
desktop, and I did not specify Gnome.  (Months ago I tried to install both
Gnome and Xfce on a system, and something went awry.)

The installer may have installed some Gnome packages, but that does not
bother me, so long as I have the Xfce desktop.

And thinking of it now, I did subsequently install gnome-disk-utility,
which I use almost daily.

If a Gnome package -- such as gdebi or gnome-disk-utility runs properly
apart from the Gnome desktop, should I be concerned?

Russ

Re: Mouse blanker?

[Stefan Monnier]

> the author.  That was one of the 2 things I lost when I made the 
> transition to linux in 1998, the other was the instability of Amigados, 
> sometimes crashing several times a day.

W.r.t crashing several times a day, you can easily recover this feature
with a little cron job,


Stefan

Re: Mouse blanker?

[Gene Heskett]

On Saturday 03 October 2015 17:43:49 Mike Castle wrote:

> Installed by default, meh.
>
> But I'm pretty sure it is enabled by default.
>
> cat /etc/X11/Xsession.d/90unclutter
> # /etc/X11/Xsession.d/90unclutter
> # This file is sourced by Xsession(5), not executed.
>
> if [ -e /etc/default/unclutter ]
> then
> . /etc/default/unclutter
> fi
>
> if [ -x /usr/bin/unclutter ] && [ "${START_UNCLUTTER}" = "true" ]
> then
> /usr/bin/unclutter ${EXTRA_OPTS} &
> fi

Unfortunately, in my testing it did not work, and didn't work until I had 
specified the -reset option.  Without that, it only works once.

So I have edited my /etc/default/unclutter so the options line now reads 
what made it work here:

EXTRA_OPTS="-idle .1 -reset"

And I'll see if it works by default after the next reboot.  Uptime is now 
9 days and I usually have to reboot at some point after 20+ days.

Thanks Mike.

Cheers, Gene Heskett
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Genes Web page 

Re: googleearth-package (jessie)

[Lisi Reisz]

On Saturday 03 October 2015 22:44:01 rlhar...@oplink.net wrote:
> On Sat, October 3, 2015 4:34 pm, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> > The Google site, at the place referenced by your URL, has just offered to
> > let me download (copied and pasted to avoid typos)
> >
> > google-earth-stable_current_amd64.deb
>
> The Google web site detected that you are running an amd64 system, so it
> automatically offered you the amd64 version of Google Earth.
>
> I happended to visit the site while running an i386 system, so the site
> offered me the i386 version.
>
> But with a bit of searching through the site, you can download the amd64
> version or the i386 version -- or both, if you wish.  And I think that you
> can do so even if you are running W$ at the time.

Yes, of course.  No problem.  It was _Gnome_ that I didn't/don't see.

Lisi

Re: googleearth-package (jessie)

[Lisi Reisz]

On Saturday 03 October 2015 23:07:13 rlhar...@oplink.net wrote:
> On Sat, October 3, 2015 4:45 pm, John Hasler wrote:
> > rlharris writes:
> >> So, at the present time, it appears that the need for
> >> "googleearth-package" has passed -- at least with respect to Jessie
> >> (and in my case, with the combination of Xfce on an i386 system).
> >> Direct installation with gdebi is simpler and faster.
> >
> > What about those whose computers are Gnome free?
>
> All I know is that when I installed Jessie, I specified only the Xcfe
> desktop, and I did not specify Gnome.  (Months ago I tried to install both
> Gnome and Xfce on a system, and something went awry.)
>
> The installer may have installed some Gnome packages, but that does not
> bother me, so long as I have the Xfce desktop.
>
> And thinking of it now, I did subsequently install gnome-disk-utility,
> which I use almost daily.
>
> If a Gnome package -- such as gdebi or gnome-disk-utility runs properly
> apart from the Gnome desktop, should I be concerned?

You are clearly welcome to use Gnome.   You run a Gnome compatible desktop.  
But not everyone does.  And Google doesn't mention Gnome, in spite of your 
insistance that it does.

Anyhow, John: we have established that although Russ used gdebi GNOME GUI, 
versions of gdebi exist for the rest of us.  There are gdebi-core (CLI) and 
gdebi KDE GUI.  And Gnome doesn't come into Google Earth (though Gnome may do 
a package for it, of course).

Lisi

Lisi

Re: Mouse blanker?

[Lisi Reisz]

On Saturday 03 October 2015 23:16:30 Stefan Monnier wrote:
> > the author.  That was one of the 2 things I lost when I made the
> > transition to linux in 1998, the other was the instability of Amigados,
> > sometimes crashing several times a day.
>
> W.r.t crashing several times a day, you can easily recover this feature
> with a little cron job,

:-))

Or install Another OS. ;-)

Lisi

Re: googleearth-package (jessie)

[John Hasler]

rlharris writes:
> All I know is that when I installed Jessie, I specified only the Xcfe
> desktop, and I did not specify Gnome.  (Months ago I tried to install both
> Gnome and Xfce on a system, and something went awry.)

> The installer may have installed some Gnome packages, but that does not
> bother me, so long as I have the Xfce desktop.

> And thinking of it now, I did subsequently install gnome-disk-utility,
> which I use almost daily.

> If a Gnome package -- such as gdebi or gnome-disk-utility runs
> properly apart from the Gnome desktop, should I be concerned?

I thought that you said that you had installed some sort of a Gnome
Google-Earth package and that this obviated the need for
googleearth-package.  My mistake.
-- 
John Hasler 
jhas...@newsguy.com
Elmwood, WI USA

Re: googleearth-package -- errata

[rlharris]

On Sat, October 3, 2015 2:21 pm, rlhar...@oplink.net wrote:
> (2) what is not CLI about the command:
>
> ~/Downloads # gdebi gnome-earth-stable_current_i386.deb

CORRECTION OF A MISSTATEMENT ERROR:  The line should read:

   ~/Downloads # gdebi google-earth-stable_current_i386.deb

I regret causing confusion.  But this is like the question:  "How many
animals of each kind did Moses take on board the ark?"; the error should
be obvious to all.

Russ

Re: Sound card question

[Stuart Longland]

On 03/10/15 01:27, Danny wrote:
> In order to hear comms coming in or out of the transciever (via an antenna) 
> one
> has to connect to the transciever with ANOTHER transciever in order to hear
> people talk (if you are tuned to the same frequency off course)
> 
> Now ... my second transciever is fitted inside my car ... in order for me to
> hear all comms on the frequency I need to go to my car and turn that 
> transciever
> on every now and then which becomes a pain in the donkey ... ;) ...

Another option, get a small handheld transceiver that you can tune to
the appropriate frequency.

This also lets you adjust volume levels so that you don't overdrive the
input on the transceiver.  Nothing worse than a contact with a garbled
station because the microphone input is being overdriven.  (We have this
from time to time on VK4RBN.)
-- 
Stuart Longland (aka Redhatter, VK4MSL)

I haven't lost my mind...
  ...it's backed up on a tape somewhere.



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Re: Sound card question

[rlharris]

On Sat
> Another option, get a small handheld transceiver that you can tune to
> the appropriate frequency.
>
> This also lets you adjust volume levels so that you don't overdrive the
> input on the transceiver.  Nothing worse than a contact with a garbled
> station because the microphone input is being overdriven.

All that is needed for monitoring is a VHF/UHF scanner.

CW is to amateur radio much as is CLI to computing.
And a microphone is the analogue of a GUI.

Russ