Re: ntp problem

2014-06-25 Thread Pierre Frenkiel

On Tue, 24 Jun 2014, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:


start ntpd with the '-g' option to fix that (add it to /etc/default/ntp).


  That doesn't work, as this option was already in use.


We used to apply drift correction (stored in /etc/adjtime) when we still ran
hctosys / systohc during system boot/shutdown (refer to
/etc/init.d/hwclock*).  I am unsure whether we still run that properly.

So, if you cannot live with the "ntpd -g" skip on boot/resume, you'll likely
have to set up the adjtimex package manually, and configure the hwclock
package (also manually).


  I found the following recommendation in the adjtimex man. I'll try it

   hwclock can be used to approximately correct for a constant drift in the
   hardware clock.
   In this case, "hwclock --adjust" is run occasionally.
   The user needs to set the time with "hwclock --set" several times
   over the course of a few days so hwclock can estimate the drift rate.
   during that time, ntpd should not be running After you have run
   "hwclock --set" for the last time, it's okay to start ntpd.

Anyway, the fact that this problem appeared just a few days ago on a machine 
running since about 5 years seems indicate a hardware problem (battery?)


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Re: chkrootkit message

2014-06-25 Thread Curt
On 2014-06-24, Brian  wrote:
>
> Yes?

No.


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is this sensible?

2014-06-25 Thread François Patte
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Bonjour,

I wanted to update my gthumb package (wich became ugly for an unknown
reason). So I asked:

apt-get install gthumb

Here is the answer:

Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer
required:
  libboost-date-time1.49.0 libboost-date-time1.53.0 libcmis-0.3-3
  libhsqldb1.8.0-java libmwaw-0.1-1
Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them.
The following extra packages will be installed:
  gcc-4.9-base gcc-4.9-base:i386 geoclue-2.0 gir1.2-pango-1.0 gthumb-data
  libabw-0.0-0 libaudit-common libaudit1 libboost-date-time1.55.0
  libcmis-0.4-4 libe-book-0.0-0 libeot0 libetonyek-0.0-0 libfreehand-0.0-0
  libgl1-nvidia-glx libharfbuzz-dev libharfbuzz-gobject0 libharfbuzz-icu0
  libharfbuzz0b libharfbuzz0b:i386 libjavascriptcoregtk-3.0-0 libllvm3.4
  libmbim-glib0 libmm-glib0 libmwaw-0.2-2 libnvidia-ml1 libpam-systemd
  libpango-1.0-0 libpango-1.0-0:i386 libpango1.0-0 libpango1.0-dev
  libpangocairo-1.0-0 libpangocairo-1.0-0:i386 libpangoft2-1.0-0
  libpangoft2-1.0-0:i386 libpangoxft-1.0-0 libpangoxft-1.0-0:i386
libqmi-glib0
  libreoffice libreoffice-avmedia-backend-gstreamer libreoffice-base
  libreoffice-base-core libreoffice-base-drivers libreoffice-calc
  libreoffice-common libreoffice-core libreoffice-draw libreoffice-gtk
  libreoffice-impress libreoffice-math libreoffice-style-galaxy
  libreoffice-style-tango libreoffice-writer libstdc++6 libstdc++6:i386
  libsystemd-daemon0 libwebkit2gtk-3.0-25 libwebkitgtk-3.0-0 libwebp5
  libxatracker2 libxshmfence1 modemmanager network-manager
nvidia-alternative
  nvidia-driver nvidia-kernel-dkms nvidia-modprobe nvidia-settings
  nvidia-vdpau-driver python-uno systemd systemd-sysv sysvinit
uno-libs3 ure
  xserver-xorg-core xserver-xorg-input-evdev xserver-xorg-input-mouse
  xserver-xorg-input-synaptics xserver-xorg-input-vmmouse
  xserver-xorg-input-wacom xserver-xorg-video-all xserver-xorg-video-ati
  xserver-xorg-video-cirrus xserver-xorg-video-fbdev
xserver-xorg-video-intel
  xserver-xorg-video-mach64 xserver-xorg-video-mga
  xserver-xorg-video-modesetting xserver-xorg-video-neomagic
  xserver-xorg-video-nouveau xserver-xorg-video-nvidia
  xserver-xorg-video-openchrome xserver-xorg-video-r128
  xserver-xorg-video-radeon xserver-xorg-video-savage
  xserver-xorg-video-siliconmotion xserver-xorg-video-sisusb
  xserver-xorg-video-tdfx xserver-xorg-video-trident
xserver-xorg-video-vesa
  xserver-xorg-video-vmware
Suggested packages:
  ttf-baekmuk ttf-arphic-gbsn00lp ttf-arphic-bsmi00lp ttf-arphic-gkai00mp
  ttf-arphic-bkai00mp ttf-baekmuk:i386 ttf-arphic-gbsn00lp:i386
  ttf-arphic-bsmi00lp:i386 ttf-arphic-gkai00mp:i386
ttf-arphic-bkai00mp:i386
  hyphen-hyphenation-patterns libreoffice-gnome libreoffice-kde
  libreoffice-grammarcheck mythes-thesaurus openclipart-libreoffice
unixodbc
  gstreamer1.0-plugins-bad gstreamer1.0-ffmpeg libreoffice-officebean
  libreoffice-gcj libreoffice-report-builder libjtds-java
  libreoffice-mysql-connector libmyodbc libmysql-java
  libreoffice-sdbc-postgresql odbc-postgresql libpg-java libsqliteodbc
tdsodbc
  mdbtools ocl-icd-libopencl1 libreoffice-style-crystal
  libreoffice-style-hicontrast libreoffice-style-oxygen
libreoffice-style-sifr
  bluez avahi-autoipd systemd-ui gpointing-device-settings touchfreeze
xinput
  firmware-linux
Recommended packages:
  libreoffice-sdbc-firebird libreoffice-sdbc-hsqldb libgl1-nvidia-glx-i386
  xserver-xorg-video-qxl
The following packages will be REMOVED:
  libaudit0 libharfbuzz0a libharfbuzz0a:i386 libxvmcnvidia1
  xserver-xorg-video-apm xserver-xorg-video-ark xserver-xorg-video-chips
  xserver-xorg-video-i128 xserver-xorg-video-rendition
xserver-xorg-video-s3
  xserver-xorg-video-s3virge xserver-xorg-video-sis
xserver-xorg-video-tseng
  xserver-xorg-video-voodoo
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  gcc-4.9-base gcc-4.9-base:i386 geoclue-2.0 libabw-0.0-0 libaudit-common
  libaudit1 libboost-date-time1.55.0 libcmis-0.4-4 libe-book-0.0-0 libeot0
  libetonyek-0.0-0 libfreehand-0.0-0 libharfbuzz-gobject0 libharfbuzz0b
  libharfbuzz0b:i386 libllvm3.4 libmbim-glib0 libmm-glib0 libmwaw-0.2-2
  libnvidia-ml1 libpam-systemd libqmi-glib0
  libreoffice-avmedia-backend-gstreamer libreoffice-base-drivers
  libsystemd-daemon0 libwebkit2gtk-3.0-25 libwebp5 libxatracker2
libxshmfence1
  nvidia-modprobe systemd systemd-sysv xserver-xorg-video-modesetting
The following packages will be upgraded:
  gir1.2-pango-1.0 gthumb gthumb-data libgl1-nvidia-glx libharfbuzz-dev
  libharfbuzz-icu0 libjavascriptcoregtk-3.0-0 libpango-1.0-0
  libpango-1.0-0:i386 libpango1.0-0 libpango1.0-dev libpangocairo-1.0-0
  libpangocairo-1.0-0:i386 libpangoft2-1.0-0 libpangoft2-1.0-0:i386
  libpangoxft-1.0-0 libpangoxft-1.0-0:i386 libreoffice libreoffice-base
  libreoffice-base-core libreoffice-calc libreoffice-common
libreoffice-core
  libreoffice-draw libreoffice-gtk li

Re: ntp problem

2014-06-25 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Wednesday 25 June 2014 08:13:12 Pierre Frenkiel wrote:
> seems indicate a hardware problem (battery?)

I nearly said so, but grandmothers and eggs came to mind.

CMOS batteries are cheap enough.  Why not just change it and see?  It does not 
sound unreasonable that a battery should be running down after 5 years or 
more.  And you don't want to wait until odd things start happening to your 
system.

Lisi


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Re: Early access to a console (during runlevel 1)

2014-06-25 Thread Curt
On 2014-06-25, Chris Bannister  wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 22, 2014 at 11:52:46PM -0600, Bob Proulx wrote:
>> 
>> A proactive admin should be aware of these things and schedule
>> appropriate preventative maintenance.
>
> May I suggest Qualitative Maintenance as a better strategy.
>
> http://assetinsights.net/Glossary/G_Qualitative_Maintenance.html
>
> (as opposed to Preventative Maintenance.)
>

I, for one (well), prefer Preventive Maintenance to Preventative
Maintenance, and Quality Maintenance to Qualitative Maintenance.

And as far as pink elephants go, the only equipment required is a bottle
of gin (empty).


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Re: is this sensible?

2014-06-25 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Wednesday 25 June 2014 09:32:22 François Patte wrote:
> I wanted to update my gthumb package (wich became ugly for an unknown
> reason). So I asked:
>
> apt-get install gthumb

If you just want to update, why are you installing?

Lisi


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Re: is this sensible?

2014-06-25 Thread François Patte
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Le 25/06/2014 10:49, Lisi Reisz a écrit :
> On Wednesday 25 June 2014 09:32:22 François Patte wrote:
>> I wanted to update my gthumb package (wich became ugly for an
>> unknown reason). So I asked:
>> 
>> apt-get install gthumb
> 
> If you just want to update, why are you installing?

man apt-get:

install
   install is followed by one or more packages desired for
installation or upgrading. Each package is a
   package name, not a fully qualified filename (for instance,
in a Debian system, apt-utils would be
   the argument provided, not apt-utils_1.0.3_amd64.deb). All
packages required by the package(s)
   specified for installation will also be retrieved and
installed. The /etc/apt/sources.list file is
   used to locate the desired packages. If a hyphen is
appended to the package name (with no
   intervening space), the identified package will be removed
if it is installed. Similarly a plus sign
   can be used to designate a package to install. These latter
features may be used to override
   decisions made by apt-get's conflict resolution system.

> 
> Lisi
> 
> 


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Re: is this sensible?

2014-06-25 Thread Weaver

On Wed, June 25, 2014 1:57 am, François Patte wrote:
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> Le 25/06/2014 10:49, Lisi Reisz a écrit :
>> On Wednesday 25 June 2014 09:32:22 François Patte wrote:
>>> I wanted to update my gthumb package (wich became ugly for an
>>> unknown reason). So I asked:
>>>
>>> apt-get install gthumb

Before installing anything, always update.
This is what the machine is actually trying to do.

Update, so that everything is current, then install the required package
immediately, and you won't have that trouble.
Cheers!

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Re: is this sensible?

2014-06-25 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Wednesday 25 June 2014 09:57:04 François Patte wrote:
> Le 25/06/2014 10:49, Lisi Reisz a écrit :
> > On Wednesday 25 June 2014 09:32:22 François Patte wrote:
> >> I wanted to update my gthumb package (wich became ugly for an
> >> unknown reason). So I asked:
> >>
> >> apt-get install gthumb
> >
> > If you just want to update, why are you installing?
>
> man apt-get:

That doesn't explain it.  It explains how to install.  But you say that you 
want to upgrade it:  

# apt-get update
# apt-get -u upgrade


aptitude update (or apt-get update, see apt-get) to update apt's internal 
database of available packages

aptitude safe-upgrade (or apt-get -u upgrade) to bring all currently installed 
packages up to date 

https://wiki.debian.org/DebianPackageManagement

I would then probably do full-upgrade on aptitude, but that would do more, and 
I do not have experience of apt-get dist-upgrade, which I believe is the 
equivalent.

Lisi


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Re: ntp problem

2014-06-25 Thread Pierre Frenkiel

On Wed, 25 Jun 2014, Lisi Reisz wrote:


On Wednesday 25 June 2014 08:13:12 Pierre Frenkiel wrote:

seems indicate a hardware problem (battery?)


I nearly said so, but grandmothers and eggs came to mind.

CMOS batteries are cheap enough.  Why not just change it and see?  It does not
sound unreasonable that a battery should be running down after 5 years or
more.  And you don't want to wait until odd things start happening to your
system.


  Hi Lisi,
  good advice. I had already in mind to do that, as I have anyway to open
  the PC to add a new graphic card and a disk

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Re: raid/mdadm help

2014-06-25 Thread Darac Marjal
On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 04:22:24AM +0200, B wrote:
> On Tue, 24 Jun 2014 22:03:54 -0400
> "Rodney D. Myers"  wrote:
> 
> > Yes, see reply from Francois Patte
>  
> Then kick off the 500GB HD and stay with 3 HDz; of course,
> you won't have no spare, but in this case it's almost
> useless (if you plan to stock a lot of data).
> 
> Also, depending on what you plan to use your RAID array for,
> considering a RAID-1 array would be better (if you plan to
> put databases or any data that need very fast I/Oz).

Alternatively, if you're willing to try some experimental (but
reasonably stable) software, btrfs will quite happily RAID over
mis-matched devices.

According to http://carfax.org.uk/btrfs-usage/index.html, RAID-5 will
allow for 3.1TB of data (assuming 1 copy of the data and 1 parity
stripe - remember that btrfs can self-heal in that situation)

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Re: is this sensible?

2014-06-25 Thread François Patte
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Le 25/06/2014 11:01, Weaver a écrit :
> 
> On Wed, June 25, 2014 1:57 am, François Patte wrote:
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>> Le 25/06/2014 10:49, Lisi Reisz a écrit :
>>> On Wednesday 25 June 2014 09:32:22 François Patte wrote:
 I wanted to update my gthumb package (wich became ugly for an
  unknown reason). So I asked:
 
 apt-get install gthumb
> 
> Before installing anything, always update. This is what the
> machine is actually trying to do.
> 
> Update, so that everything is current, then install the required 
> package immediately, and you won't have that trouble. Cheers!

The problem is: why do I have to install, for instance,  gcc-4.9-base
gcc-4.9-base:i386  (I don't want to compile anything...)

why do I have to install these xserver:

  xserver-xorg-core xserver-xorg-input-evdev xserver-xorg-input-mouse
  xserver-xorg-input-synaptics xserver-xorg-input-vmmouse
  xserver-xorg-input-wacom xserver-xorg-video-all xserver-xorg-video-ati
  xserver-xorg-video-cirrus xserver-xorg-video-fbdev
xserver-xorg-video-intel
  xserver-xorg-video-mach64 xserver-xorg-video-mga
  xserver-xorg-video-modesetting xserver-xorg-video-neomagic
  xserver-xorg-video-nouveau xserver-xorg-video-nvidia
  xserver-xorg-video-openchrome xserver-xorg-video-r128
  xserver-xorg-video-radeon xserver-xorg-video-savage
  xserver-xorg-video-siliconmotion xserver-xorg-video-sisusb
  xserver-xorg-video-tdfx xserver-xorg-video-trident
xserver-xorg-video-vesa
  xserver-xorg-video-vmware

I have an nvidia graphic card, so, if needed "nouveau" but I use the
proprietary driver...

Why should I install systemd?

etc. etc.

I just wanted to work with gthumb, but it was broken by a preceeding
update

I waste more time to recover a system than to work


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Re: raid/mdadm help

2014-06-25 Thread Rodney D. Myers
On Tue, 24 Jun 2014 17:47:18 -0600
Bob Proulx  wrote:

> Rodney D. Myers wrote:
> > it's been 3 hours since I attempted to create the raid array, and
> > it's stopped. This is what I see;
> > 
> > /sbin/mdadm --detail /dev/md0  
> 
> That was good information.  Additionally can you post the mdstat
> output?  It would be useful before rendering an opinion.
> 
>   cat /proc/mdstat
> 
> Bob

Ran all night, and same result

 /sbin/mdadm --detail /dev/md0
/dev/md0:
Version : 1.2
  Creation Time : Tue Jun 24 22:06:36 2014
 Raid Level : raid5
 Array Size : 1464763392 (1396.91 GiB 1499.92 GB)
  Used Dev Size : 488254464 (465.64 GiB 499.97 GB)
   Raid Devices : 4
  Total Devices : 4
Persistence : Superblock is persistent

  Intent Bitmap : Internal

Update Time : Tue Jun 24 23:59:35 2014
  State : active, FAILED 
 Active Devices : 0
 Failed Devices : 4
  Spare Devices : 0

 Layout : left-symmetric
 Chunk Size : 512K

Number   Major   Minor   RaidDevice State
   0   000  removed
   2   002  removed
   4   004  removed
   6   006  removed

   0   8   17-  faulty   /dev/sdb1
   1   8   33-  faulty   /dev/sdc1
   2   8   49-  faulty   /dev/sdd1
   4   8   65-  faulty   /dev/sde1


cat /proc/mdstat 
Personalities : [raid6] [raid5] [raid4] 
md0 : active raid5 sde1[4](F) sdd1[2](F) sdc1[1](F) sdb1[0](F)
  1464763392 blocks super 1.2 level 5, 512k chunk, algorithm 2
[4/0] [] bitmap: 0/4 pages [0KB], 65536KB chunk

unused devices: 

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Re: is this sensible?

2014-06-25 Thread Rob


On 25 June 2014 10:51:17 BST, "François Patte" 
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>Le 25/06/2014 11:01, Weaver a écrit :
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>> On Wed, June 25, 2014 1:57 am, François Patte wrote:
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>>> Le 25/06/2014 10:49, Lisi Reisz a écrit :
 On Wednesday 25 June 2014 09:32:22 François Patte wrote:
> I wanted to update my gthumb package (wich became ugly for an
>  unknown reason). So I asked:
> 
> apt-get install gthumb
>> 
>> Before installing anything, always update. This is what the
>> machine is actually trying to do.
>> 
>> Update, so that everything is current, then install the required 
>> package immediately, and you won't have that trouble. Cheers!
>
>The problem is: why do I have to install, for instance,  gcc-4.9-base
>gcc-4.9-base:i386  (I don't want to compile anything...)
>
>why do I have to install these xserver:
>
>  xserver-xorg-core xserver-xorg-input-evdev xserver-xorg-input-mouse
>  xserver-xorg-input-synaptics xserver-xorg-input-vmmouse
> xserver-xorg-input-wacom xserver-xorg-video-all xserver-xorg-video-ati
>  xserver-xorg-video-cirrus xserver-xorg-video-fbdev
>xserver-xorg-video-intel
>  xserver-xorg-video-mach64 xserver-xorg-video-mga
>  xserver-xorg-video-modesetting xserver-xorg-video-neomagic
>  xserver-xorg-video-nouveau xserver-xorg-video-nvidia
>  xserver-xorg-video-openchrome xserver-xorg-video-r128
>  xserver-xorg-video-radeon xserver-xorg-video-savage
>  xserver-xorg-video-siliconmotion xserver-xorg-video-sisusb
>  xserver-xorg-video-tdfx xserver-xorg-video-trident
>xserver-xorg-video-vesa
>  xserver-xorg-video-vmware
>
>I have an nvidia graphic card, so, if needed "nouveau" but I use the
>proprietary driver...
>
>Why should I install systemd?
>
>etc. etc.
>
>I just wanted to work with gthumb, but it was broken by a preceeding
>update...

Check /var/cache/apt/archives. Is the previous version of gthumb that worked 
there?

If so try: 
cd to that directory and 
dpkg -i gthumb-$VERSION-No.deb
to downgrade.

rob


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Re: raid/mdadm help

2014-06-25 Thread Rodney D. Myers
I've made sure the 500G drive is the first in the external box. And
excluded it in the array.

I've started creating a new array using the following;

/sbin/mdadm --create --verbose /dev/md0 --level=5
--raid-devices=3  /dev/sdc1 /dev/sdd1 /dev/sde1 mdadm: layout defaults
to left-symmetric mdadm: layout defaults to left-symmetric
mdadm: chunk size defaults to 512K
mdadm: size set to 976630272K
mdadm: automatically enabling write-intent bitmap on large array
mdadm: Defaulting to version 1.2 metadata
mdadm: array /dev/md0 started.

and formatted to ext4;

mkfs.ext4 /dev/md0
mke2fs 1.42.10 (18-May-2014)
Creating filesystem with 488315136 4k blocks and 122085376 inodes
Filesystem UUID: f676c6bd-bcb4-4ccc-b2c4-77c7a1aff44c
Superblock backups stored on blocks: 
32768, 98304, 163840, 229376, 294912, 819200, 884736, 1605632,
2654208, 4096000, 7962624, 11239424, 2048, 23887872, 71663616,
78675968, 10240, 214990848

Allocating group tables: done
Writing inode tables: done
Creating journal (32768 blocks): done
Writing superblocks and filesystem accounting information: done  

I'm hoping to simplify the setup by removing the smaller driver

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Re: Early access to a console (during runlevel 1)

2014-06-25 Thread Chris Bannister
On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 08:48:26AM +, Curt wrote:
> On 2014-06-25, Chris Bannister  wrote:
> > On Sun, Jun 22, 2014 at 11:52:46PM -0600, Bob Proulx wrote:
> >> 
> >> A proactive admin should be aware of these things and schedule
> >> appropriate preventative maintenance.
> >
> > May I suggest Qualitative Maintenance as a better strategy.
> >
> > http://assetinsights.net/Glossary/G_Qualitative_Maintenance.html
> >
> > (as opposed to Preventative Maintenance.)
> >
> 
> I, for one (well), prefer Preventive Maintenance to Preventative
> Maintenance, and Quality Maintenance to Qualitative Maintenance.

e.g. It was quality maintenance being done but unfortunately the wrong
type of maintenance was being performed too often.

 * quality maintenance - tasks done to a high standard.
 * qualitative maintenance - tasks carefully chosen to extend the
   longevity and performance of a device.
 * preventative maintenance - series of tasks done at specified
   intervals (without regard to longevity and performance of a device.)
   IOW, do the tasks cause unnecessary wear and tear themselves?

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Re: is this sensible?

2014-06-25 Thread Chris Bannister
On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 10:32:22AM +0200, François Patte wrote:
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> Bonjour,
> 
> I wanted to update my gthumb package (wich became ugly for an unknown
> reason). So I asked:

What do yo mean by "...became ugly for an unknown reason...), how do you
know it is the gthumb package causing it?

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Re: Getting rights right

2014-06-25 Thread Diogene Laerce

>>>   chmod -R u+rwX,go-rwx /home/user/Documents
>>
>> I ran this command to restart the process :
>>  find /home/user/Documents -type f -exec chmod u+rw,go-rwx -R {} \;
>> and will make executable all following files according the needs.
> 
> More comments from me about the above.  It is pretty good.  It doesn't
> do anything bad.  But it could be better.
> 
>   find $directory -type f
> 
> That will find all files below the specified directory.
> 
>   -exec chmod u+rw,go-rwx -R {} \;
> 
> That will chmod each file (each due to "{} \;") to the specified
> symbolic mode.  All good.
> 
> The -R is a little odd there.  That says to recursively change files
> down a directory hierarchy.  Of course the find is only going to pass
> it files so there won't ever be a directory seen.  The -R in that case
> isn't doing any harm but neither is it doing anything at all.  Also
> 'find' is already the super powerful nice recursive command.  It is
> the biggest and best tool in the toolbox.  Since recursive commands
> can get away from people sometimes I think it best to use one of them
> at a time.  :-)

Yeah my bad. It was consecutive to a neuronal freeze at the moment,
completely independent of my will. ^^


> The "{} \;" part is the traditional way to do -exec and you will find
> it in many Unix text books forever.  It has some disadvantages though.
> It invokes the command once for each file.  That isn't as efficient as
> it could be.  More than a decade ago find was enhanced to include the
> "{} +" construct as a new and better form of this.  For one "+" isn't
> special to the shell and does not need to be escaped.  That is good by
> itself.  But "{} +" also invokes the command once and passes the
> entire argument list, or as much of the argument list as possible on
> the system (it is system dependent), to the command.  Therefore it is
> much more efficient since it reduces the number of fork and exec calls
> and makes handling the large file lists more efficient.
> 
> If we polish up your command just a tiny bit we have this:
> 
>   find /home/user/Documents -type f -exec chmod u+rw,go-rwx {} +
> 
> Again, your original command is fine and got the job done.  I just
> wanted to polish it up a small amount for next time.

Very nice ! It's the first time that I see this kind of notation and
does save a lot of time on big jobs.. A big lot. :)


>>> That is usually called UPG (User Private Group).
>>> ...
>>
>> After reading this, I actually found that :
>>
>> umask and level of security : The umask command be used for setting
>> different security levels as follows:
>>
>> umask value  Security level  Effective permission (directory)
>> 022  Permissive  755
>> 026  Moderate751
>> 027  Moderate750
>> 077  Severe  700
>>
>> in there :
>> http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/understanding-linux-unix-umask-value-usage.html
> 
> I gave that a quick skim and that article seems factually accurate.
> However trying to assign human fuzzy names "Permissive, Moderate,
> Severe" to them is completely arbitrary and I disagree with the
> direction at that point.  I would rather have features and
> capabilities line up with the particular goals to be accomplished.
> 
> Because frankly I would say for "Severe" security that I would turn
> the power off!  That would be severe! :-)

But efficient ! I tried that but I guess you didn't receive the message
I sent at the time.. :)


>> And I was planning to set a "severe" security plan. Based on the
>> thinking that I have 3 computers (that only I use) to run behind a box
>> and that I thought wiser to set them to the maximum security first, find
>> out what they will exchange in second and then update the permissions
>> accordingly, as I have very little impact on the box security.
> 
> Given all of the above I think that is a reasonable plan.  I can't
> argue with the direction of your thinking.  But I also understand how
> these permissions work and how they interact.  So I personally
> wouldn't be recommending "Severe".  I recommend a UPG "umask 02" which
> isn't even an option from the above list.  If you are a sole user on
> your own system then it doesn't really matter.
> 
>> I then opted for the umask 077. I'm not sure if it's really justified
>> but it couldn't do no harm.. I guess. :)


As I like to experiment^^, I tried that, find on Linuxaria :

/etc/pam.d/common-session
/etc/pam.d/common-session-noninteractive

And in each of these files add the line:

sessionoptional pam_umask.so umask=0077


modified to my needs.. I shouldn't have. :D

The system then didn't want to open any graphic session and I was unable
to find why. Even after removing those bad ideas from pam.d or moving
all the . files and directories from my home.

I reinstalled it. So it could do some harm.


> But for example if you share files by making tar files and sending
> them out then that "Severe" setting creates problems for others when
> t

Re: is this sensible?

2014-06-25 Thread Floris
Op Wed, 25 Jun 2014 11:51:17 +0200 schreef François Patte  
:



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On Wed, June 25, 2014 1:57 am, François Patte wrote:

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Le 25/06/2014 10:49, Lisi Reisz a écrit :

On Wednesday 25 June 2014 09:32:22 François Patte wrote:

I wanted to update my gthumb package (wich became ugly for an
 unknown reason). So I asked:

apt-get install gthumb


Before installing anything, always update. This is what the
machine is actually trying to do.

Update, so that everything is current, then install the required
package immediately, and you won't have that trouble. Cheers!


The problem is: why do I have to install, for instance,  gcc-4.9-base
gcc-4.9-base:i386  (I don't want to compile anything...)

why do I have to install these xserver:

  xserver-xorg-core xserver-xorg-input-evdev xserver-xorg-input-mouse
  xserver-xorg-input-synaptics xserver-xorg-input-vmmouse
  xserver-xorg-input-wacom xserver-xorg-video-all xserver-xorg-video-ati
  xserver-xorg-video-cirrus xserver-xorg-video-fbdev
xserver-xorg-video-intel
  xserver-xorg-video-mach64 xserver-xorg-video-mga
  xserver-xorg-video-modesetting xserver-xorg-video-neomagic
  xserver-xorg-video-nouveau xserver-xorg-video-nvidia
  xserver-xorg-video-openchrome xserver-xorg-video-r128
  xserver-xorg-video-radeon xserver-xorg-video-savage
  xserver-xorg-video-siliconmotion xserver-xorg-video-sisusb
  xserver-xorg-video-tdfx xserver-xorg-video-trident
xserver-xorg-video-vesa
  xserver-xorg-video-vmware

I have an nvidia graphic card, so, if needed "nouveau" but I use the
proprietary driver...

Why should I install systemd?

etc. etc.

I just wanted to work with gthumb, but it was broken by a preceeding
update

I waste more time to recover a system than to work



try:
#apt-get install --no-install-recommends gthumb

But I think there is a xserver-xorg-input-all and xserver-xorg-video-all  
dependency somewhere.
Installing "xserver-xorg-input-evdev" and "xserver-xorg-video-nvidia"  
should be enough to satisfy

all packages

See:
https://packages.debian.org/wheezy/gthumb
for a list of dependencies

Succes,

Floris


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Re: is this sensible?

2014-06-25 Thread Floris

Op Wed, 25 Jun 2014 14:06:25 +0200 schreef Floris :

Op Wed, 25 Jun 2014 11:51:17 +0200 schreef François Patte  
:



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Le 25/06/2014 11:01, Weaver a écrit :


On Wed, June 25, 2014 1:57 am, François Patte wrote:

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Le 25/06/2014 10:49, Lisi Reisz a écrit :

On Wednesday 25 June 2014 09:32:22 François Patte wrote:

I wanted to update my gthumb package (wich became ugly for an
 unknown reason). So I asked:

apt-get install gthumb


Before installing anything, always update. This is what the
machine is actually trying to do.

Update, so that everything is current, then install the required
package immediately, and you won't have that trouble. Cheers!


The problem is: why do I have to install, for instance,  gcc-4.9-base
gcc-4.9-base:i386  (I don't want to compile anything...)

why do I have to install these xserver:

  xserver-xorg-core xserver-xorg-input-evdev xserver-xorg-input-mouse
  xserver-xorg-input-synaptics xserver-xorg-input-vmmouse
  xserver-xorg-input-wacom xserver-xorg-video-all xserver-xorg-video-ati
  xserver-xorg-video-cirrus xserver-xorg-video-fbdev
xserver-xorg-video-intel
  xserver-xorg-video-mach64 xserver-xorg-video-mga
  xserver-xorg-video-modesetting xserver-xorg-video-neomagic
  xserver-xorg-video-nouveau xserver-xorg-video-nvidia
  xserver-xorg-video-openchrome xserver-xorg-video-r128
  xserver-xorg-video-radeon xserver-xorg-video-savage
  xserver-xorg-video-siliconmotion xserver-xorg-video-sisusb
  xserver-xorg-video-tdfx xserver-xorg-video-trident
xserver-xorg-video-vesa
  xserver-xorg-video-vmware

I have an nvidia graphic card, so, if needed "nouveau" but I use the
proprietary driver...

Why should I install systemd?

etc. etc.

I just wanted to work with gthumb, but it was broken by a preceeding
update

I waste more time to recover a system than to work



try:
#apt-get install --no-install-recommends gthumb

But I think there is a xserver-xorg-input-all and xserver-xorg-video-all  
dependency somewhere.
Installing "xserver-xorg-input-evdev" and "xserver-xorg-video-nvidia"  
should be enough to satisfy

all packages

See:
https://packages.debian.org/wheezy/gthumb
for a list of dependencies


for example:

gthumb needs libc6 needs libgcc1 needs gcc-4.7-base


Success,

Floris



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Re: is this sensible?

2014-06-25 Thread Reco
 Hi.

On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 11:51:17AM +0200, François Patte wrote:
> 
> The problem is: why do I have to install, for instance,  gcc-4.9-base
> gcc-4.9-base:i386  (I don't want to compile anything...)

These packages contain 'files common to all languages and libraries
 contained in the GNU Compiler Collection (GCC)'. Basically, you build
something with gcc-4.9 = you have to install gcc-4.9-base. This is just
the part of upgrade process.

> 
> why do I have to install these xserver:
> 
>   xserver-xorg-core xserver-xorg-input-evdev xserver-xorg-input-mouse
>   xserver-xorg-input-synaptics xserver-xorg-input-vmmouse
>   xserver-xorg-input-wacom xserver-xorg-video-all xserver-xorg-video-ati
>   xserver-xorg-video-cirrus xserver-xorg-video-fbdev
> xserver-xorg-video-intel
>   xserver-xorg-video-mach64 xserver-xorg-video-mga
>   xserver-xorg-video-modesetting xserver-xorg-video-neomagic
>   xserver-xorg-video-nouveau xserver-xorg-video-nvidia
>   xserver-xorg-video-openchrome xserver-xorg-video-r128
>   xserver-xorg-video-radeon xserver-xorg-video-savage
>   xserver-xorg-video-siliconmotion xserver-xorg-video-sisusb
>   xserver-xorg-video-tdfx xserver-xorg-video-trident
> xserver-xorg-video-vesa
>   xserver-xorg-video-vmware

Same thing. xserver wants you to upgrade it.


> Why should I install systemd?

You have modemmanager and network-manager installed. Recent versions of
these packages 'depend' (such dependency can be avoided) on systemd.
This topic was discussed in great detail several times on this list
recently.


> etc. etc.
> 
> I just wanted to work with gthumb, but it was broken by a preceeding
> update

Try using:

apt-get install --no-upgrade gthumb

Reco


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Re: is this sensible?

2014-06-25 Thread berenger . morel



Le 25.06.2014 11:51, François Patte a écrit :

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Le 25/06/2014 11:01, Weaver a écrit :


On Wed, June 25, 2014 1:57 am, François Patte wrote:

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Le 25/06/2014 10:49, Lisi Reisz a écrit :

On Wednesday 25 June 2014 09:32:22 François Patte wrote:

I wanted to update my gthumb package (wich became ugly for an
 unknown reason). So I asked:

apt-get install gthumb


Before installing anything, always update. This is what the
machine is actually trying to do.

Update, so that everything is current, then install the required
package immediately, and you won't have that trouble. Cheers!


The problem is: why do I have to install, for instance,  gcc-4.9-base
gcc-4.9-base:i386  (I don't want to compile anything...)

why do I have to install these xserver:

  xserver-xorg-core xserver-xorg-input-evdev xserver-xorg-input-mouse
  xserver-xorg-input-synaptics xserver-xorg-input-vmmouse
  xserver-xorg-input-wacom xserver-xorg-video-all 
xserver-xorg-video-ati

  xserver-xorg-video-cirrus xserver-xorg-video-fbdev
xserver-xorg-video-intel
  xserver-xorg-video-mach64 xserver-xorg-video-mga
  xserver-xorg-video-modesetting xserver-xorg-video-neomagic
  xserver-xorg-video-nouveau xserver-xorg-video-nvidia
  xserver-xorg-video-openchrome xserver-xorg-video-r128
  xserver-xorg-video-radeon xserver-xorg-video-savage
  xserver-xorg-video-siliconmotion xserver-xorg-video-sisusb
  xserver-xorg-video-tdfx xserver-xorg-video-trident
xserver-xorg-video-vesa
  xserver-xorg-video-vmware

I have an nvidia graphic card, so, if needed "nouveau" but I use the
proprietary driver...

Why should I install systemd?

etc. etc.

I just wanted to work with gthumb, but it was broken by a preceeding
update

I waste more time to recover a system than to work


This is the problem with non interactive tools: if you do not master 
the non interactive tool, you do not have real control on it.


I have learn a lot of things because I used aptitude with it's ncurses 
interface. It features a preview mode, in which you can see why things 
are done. With this knowledge, you will be able to customize the 
behavior made by your update.



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Re: is this sensible?

2014-06-25 Thread François Patte
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> On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 10:32:22AM +0200, François Patte wrote:
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>> Bonjour,
>> 
>> I wanted to update my gthumb package (wich became ugly for an
>> unknown reason). So I asked:
> 
> What do yo mean by "...became ugly for an unknown reason...), how
> do you know it is the gthumb package causing it?

Have look here: here is what I can see using gthumb version 3.0.1-2:

http://www.mi.parisdescartes.fr/~patte/gthumb.png

You can't see all thumbnails

thumbnails hide the names

The first row is not displayed...

I cannot access the commentaries I wrote for many images in a previous
version... etc.

What else than gthumb could do that?



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Re: raid/mdadm help

2014-06-25 Thread Rodney D. Myers
On Wed, 25 Jun 2014 06:43:01 -0400
"Rodney D. Myers"  wrote:

> I've made sure the 500G drive is the first in the external box. And
> excluded it in the array.
> 
> I've started creating a new array using the following;
> 
> /sbin/mdadm --create --verbose /dev/md0 --level=5
> --raid-devices=3  /dev/sdc1 /dev/sdd1 /dev/sde1 mdadm: layout defaults
> to left-symmetric mdadm: layout defaults to left-symmetric
> mdadm: chunk size defaults to 512K
> mdadm: size set to 976630272K
> mdadm: automatically enabling write-intent bitmap on large array
> mdadm: Defaulting to version 1.2 metadata
> mdadm: array /dev/md0 started.
> 
> and formatted to ext4;
> 
> mkfs.ext4 /dev/md0
> mke2fs 1.42.10 (18-May-2014)
> Creating filesystem with 488315136 4k blocks and 122085376 inodes
> Filesystem UUID: f676c6bd-bcb4-4ccc-b2c4-77c7a1aff44c
> Superblock backups stored on blocks: 
>   32768, 98304, 163840, 229376, 294912, 819200, 884736, 1605632,
> 2654208, 4096000, 7962624, 11239424, 2048, 23887872, 71663616,
> 78675968, 10240, 214990848
> 
> Allocating group tables: done
> Writing inode tables: done
> Creating journal (32768 blocks): done
> Writing superblocks and filesystem accounting information: done  
> 
> I'm hoping to simplify the setup by removing the smaller driver
> 

Well 2 hours later, failed;

 /sbin/mdadm --detail /dev/md0
/dev/md0:
Version : 1.2
  Creation Time : Wed Jun 25 06:37:06 2014
 Raid Level : raid5
 Array Size : 1953260544 (1862.77 GiB 2000.14 GB)
  Used Dev Size : 976630272 (931.39 GiB 1000.07 GB)
   Raid Devices : 3
  Total Devices : 3
Persistence : Superblock is persistent

  Intent Bitmap : Internal

Update Time : Wed Jun 25 08:04:45 2014
  State : active, FAILED 
 Active Devices : 0
 Failed Devices : 3
  Spare Devices : 0

 Layout : left-symmetric
 Chunk Size : 512K

Number   Major   Minor   RaidDevice State
   0   000  removed
   2   002  removed
   4   004  removed

   0   8   33-  faulty   /dev/sdc1
   1   8   49-  faulty   /dev/sdd1
   3   8   65-  faulty   /dev/sde1


cat /proc/mdstat 
Personalities : [raid6] [raid5] [raid4] 
md0 : active raid5 sde1[3](F) sdd1[1](F) sdc1[0](F)
  1953260544 blocks super 1.2 level 5, 512k chunk, algorithm 2
[3/0] [___] bitmap: 0/8 pages [0KB], 65536KB chunk

unused devices: 

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Re: is this sensible?

2014-06-25 Thread François Patte
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Le 25/06/2014 13:25, Chris Bannister a écrit :
> On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 10:32:22AM +0200, François Patte wrote:
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>> Bonjour,
>> 
>> I wanted to update my gthumb package (wich became ugly for an
>> unknown reason). So I asked:
> 
> What do yo mean by "...became ugly for an unknown reason...), how
> do you know it is the gthumb package causing it?
> 

here is what you can see with older version of gthumb:


http://www.mi.parisdescartes.fr/~patte/gthumb-2.png

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Re: ntp problem

2014-06-25 Thread Bzzzz
On Wed, 25 Jun 2014 09:13:12 +0200 (CEST)
Pierre Frenkiel  wrote:

> Anyway, the fact that this problem appeared just a few days ago on
> a machine running since about 5 years seems indicate a hardware
> problem (battery?)

Very few chances, as this kinda battery can save its load for
at least 10 years (except if you had very long periods without
pluging your computer).

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Re: ntp problem

2014-06-25 Thread Curt
On 2014-06-25, Lisi Reisz  wrote:
> On Wednesday 25 June 2014 08:13:12 Pierre Frenkiel wrote:
>> seems indicate a hardware problem (battery?)
>
> I nearly said so, but grandmothers and eggs came to mind.

Grandmothers will promptly replace a faulty egg?  

> CMOS batteries are cheap enough.  Why not just change it and see?  It does 
> not 
> sound unreasonable that a battery should be running down after 5 years or 
> more.  And you don't want to wait until odd things start happening to your 
> system.
>
> Lisi
>
>


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Re: ntp problem

2014-06-25 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Wednesday 25 June 2014 14:11:29 Curt wrote:
> On 2014-06-25, Lisi Reisz  wrote:
> > On Wednesday 25 June 2014 08:13:12 Pierre Frenkiel wrote:
> >> seems indicate a hardware problem (battery?)
> >
> > I nearly said so, but grandmothers and eggs came to mind.
>

> Grandmothers will promptly replace a faulty egg?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teaching_grandmother_to_suck_eggs

>
> > CMOS batteries are cheap enough.  Why not just change it and see? 

Lisi



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Debian 7, xrdp and cyrillic clipboard

2014-06-25 Thread Сергей Савко
Hello.
Installed xrdp using X11RDP-o-Matic, everything works except the Cyrillic copy 
from client to server and back. 
While on Ubuntu 12.04 with the same setting Cyrillic works. 
Maybe I had not installed any package?
What could it be?

Thank you.


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Re: is this sensible?

2014-06-25 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Wednesday 25 June 2014 13:42:39 François Patte wrote:

> >> Bonjour,
> >>
> >> I wanted to update my gthumb package (wich became ugly for an
> >> unknown reason). So I asked:
> >
> > What do yo mean by "...became ugly for an unknown reason...), how
> > do you know it is the gthumb package causing it?
>
> here is what you can see with older version of gthumb:
>
>
> http://www.mi.parisdescartes.fr/~patte/gthumb-2.png

Have you tried either:

# apt-get install --reinstall gthumb

or

# apt-get purge gthumb && apt-get install gthumb

?

Lisi


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Re: chkrootkit message

2014-06-25 Thread Doug

Most interesting message on the list:

On 06/25/2014 03:55 AM, Curt wrote:

On 2014-06-24, Brian  wrote:

Yes?

No.





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Re: chkrootkit message

2014-06-25 Thread Bzzzz
On Wed, 25 Jun 2014 10:41:24 -0400
Doug  wrote:

> Most interesting message on the list:
> 
> On 06/25/2014 03:55 AM, Curt wrote:
> > On 2014-06-24, Brian  wrote:
> >> Yes?
> > No.

May be.

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Please help me

2014-06-25 Thread monirul hasan

 Sir, I am a student.I want to install "Debian" in my laptop along with my 
installed "Windows 7".My laptop has the following 

 configuration:

 RAM: 4GB

 Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-3110M CPU @ 2.40GHz .

 Sir, I want to make the following partitions:

 Drive name  Size Type

 /(root) 30GB ext4

 Swap8GB  

 /uefi   1GB  ext4
 
 /home   20GB ext4
 
 But unfortunately I could not install it. I am trying to install 
"debian-7.5.0-amd64-DVD-1 " uing 16GB USB and this 
Debian DVD iso size is 3.7GB. I downloaded this DVD( 
debian-7.5.0-amd64-DVD-1.iso2014-04-26 16:09  3.7G )  from the 

 url:http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/7.5.0/amd64/iso-dvd/ 

 using utorrent. During installation a message says that "The missing firmware 
files are :rtl_nic/rtl8105e-1.fw .

   I made my 16GB USB bootable from the iso image using "UNetbootin" software.

 However I completed installation and a message says installation is
 complete and now remove your installation media USB. When I restart my laptop 
a message says 

 "Error: file "/boot/grub/i386-pc/normal.mod' not found .

 Entering rescue mode
 grub rescue>

" 

Sir, now what can I do to install "Debian" in my laptop uing USB? 
Sir,Please help me in detail.





Re: chkrootkit message

2014-06-25 Thread Curt
On 2014-06-25, Doug  wrote:
> Most interesting message on the list:
>
> On 06/25/2014 03:55 AM, Curt wrote:
>> On 2014-06-24, Brian  wrote:
>>> Yes?
>> No.
>>

 This business is well ended.
 My liege and madam, to expostulate
 What majesty should be, what duty is,
 Why day is day, night night, and time is time,
 Were nothing but to waste night, day, and time.
 Therefore, since brevity is the soul of wit
 And tediousness the limbs and outward flourishes,
 I will be brief: your noble son is mad.



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Re: Please help me

2014-06-25 Thread Erwan David
Le 25/06/2014 16:55, monirul hasan a écrit :

Humm your message is empty, with a text attachment...

Strange...

>  Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-3110M CPU @ 2.40GHz .
>
>  Sir, I want to make the following partitions:
>
>  Drive name  Size Type
>
>  /(root) 30GB ext4
>
>  Swap8GB  
>
>  /uefi   1GB  ext4
>  
>  /home   20GB ext4

I am sure that the uefi partition must use vfat, not ext4; and I think
it should be the first partition, and It may even be better to mount it
on /boot/uefi or /boot/efi.



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Re: Please help me

2014-06-25 Thread Erwan David
Le 25/06/2014 17:32, Erwan David a écrit :
> Le 25/06/2014 16:55, monirul hasan a écrit :
>
> Humm your message is empty, with a text attachment...
>
> Strange...
>
>>  Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-3110M CPU @ 2.40GHz .
>>
>>  Sir, I want to make the following partitions:
>>
>>  Drive name  Size Type
>>
>>  /(root) 30GB ext4
>>
>>  Swap8GB  
>>
>>  /uefi   1GB  ext4
>>  
>>  /home   20GB ext4
> I am sure that the uefi partition must use vfat, not ext4; and I think
> it should be the first partition, and It may even be better to mount it
> on /boot/uefi or /boot/efi.
>
>
>

I forgot : in the installer, first let the installer define the
partitions, then modify them, not changing the boot/EFI ones, it is
better for getting a bootable system.


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Re: ntp problem

2014-06-25 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Wed, 25 Jun 2014, Pierre Frenkiel wrote:
> Anyway, the fact that this problem appeared just a few days ago on a
> machine running since about 5 years seems indicate a hardware
> problem (battery?)

Yes, the lower "voltage" caused by a dying battery can increase the
systematic drift on the RTC, or even stop the clock entirely for a small
while.

You want that battery replaced yesterday.  The CMOS memory will corrupt data
soon, if the RTC is already gone.

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Re: ntp problem

2014-06-25 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Wed, 25 Jun 2014, B wrote:
> On Wed, 25 Jun 2014 09:13:12 +0200 (CEST)
> Pierre Frenkiel  wrote:
> > Anyway, the fact that this problem appeared just a few days ago on
> > a machine running since about 5 years seems indicate a hardware
> > problem (battery?)
> 
> Very few chances, as this kinda battery can save its load for
> at least 10 years (except if you had very long periods without
> pluging your computer).

I've never seen one that lasted for 10 years, and I've had to replace
several CR2032 lithium cells on motherboards that were ~5 years old.  And
those were good quality cells, made in Japan.

These cells do age (and discharge) with time, and temperature plays a role
on the aging.  Since the motherboard design will also play a major role,
YMMV.

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Re: ntp problem

2014-06-25 Thread Bzzzz
On Wed, 25 Jun 2014 13:30:34 -0300
Henrique de Moraes Holschuh  wrote:

> I've never seen one that lasted for 10 years, and I've had to
> replace several CR2032 lithium cells on motherboards that were ~5
> years old.  And those were good quality cells, made in Japan.
> 
> These cells do age (and discharge) with time, and temperature
> plays a role on the aging.  Since the motherboard design will also
> play a major role, YMMV.
 
It varies, I've got 10 machines average 10 years old, some of 1999,
that didn't discharge after a 3 years stay in a warehouse.

The discharge current depends on the battery's quality, and
japan isn't the only one to produce good quality, some chinese
firms do and some korean produces hi quality too (you can also
easily find shit in japan).

When you're sure your machine(s) won't be stuck in a cave for
long, you can also use a coupling device with 2 alcaline 
batteries in; sounds silly but works very good (change batteries
every 4-5 years 'cos the discharge current's much higher
than a for Lithium one).

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How do package wallpapers for GNOME in Wheezy?

2014-06-25 Thread Joerg Desch
Hi.

I've build a package with some of my favorite wallpapers. The package 
installs fine and I've created a XML file too. But the GNOME settings 
dialog of Wheezy doesn't show me my wallpapers.

I've installed all files below
/usr/share/backgrounds/joede-collection/1650x1050/
and installed the XML to
/usr/share/gnome-background-properties/joede-wallpaper-
collection-1366x768.xml

Here is a shortened copy of the XML content.




  
fictive_view_on_earth.jpg
/usr/share/backgrounds/joede-collection/1650x1050/
fictive_view_on_earth.jpg
  zoom
  #00
  #00
  solid
  
  
Forever-Shady.jpg
/usr/share/backgrounds/joede-collection/1650x1050/Forever-
Shady.jpg
  zoom
  #00
  #00
  solid
  


Is there something wrong?


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disk usage utility

2014-06-25 Thread ChadDavis
I have a single partition mounted at '/'.  When I run the disk usage
utility, it shows That I have 66 GB remaining.  Which is correct.  But when
I "scan home" it shows my home folder as 100% full.

Why would my home folder be full, when my there is just one huge partition
and it has plenty of empty space remaining?


Re: disk usage utility

2014-06-25 Thread Bzzzz
On Wed, 25 Jun 2014 12:42:53 -0600
ChadDavis  wrote:

> I have a single partition mounted at '/'.  When I run the disk
> usage utility, it shows That I have 66 GB remaining.  Which is
> correct.  But when I "scan home" it shows my home folder as 100%
> full.

What do you call "scan home"?

> Why would my home folder be full, when my there is just one huge
> partition and it has plenty of empty space remaining?

I'd say there 2 poss.:
1- you activated (and perhaps configured) quotas,
3- HobbyWAN Kenobzzz

And if your $HOME is really 100% full, that means you can't
succeed making: touch ZZZ.ZZZ in it (as the right user).

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Re: chkrootkit message

2014-06-25 Thread Brian
On Wed 25 Jun 2014 at 10:41:24 -0400, Doug wrote:

> On 06/25/2014 03:55 AM, Curt wrote:
> >On 2014-06-24, Brian  wrote:
> >>Yes?
> >No.
>
> Most interesting message on the list:

If only such penetrating insight was applied to other posts this list
would be transformed.


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Re: Please help me

2014-06-25 Thread Brian
On Wed 25 Jun 2014 at 20:55:02 +0600, monirul hasan wrote:

>  using utorrent. During installation a message says that "The missing 
> firmware files are :rtl_nic/rtl8105e-1.fw .

At what exact point? (It is not a cause of your main problem, however.
Please read the manual),

>I made my 16GB USB bootable from the iso image using "UNetbootin" software.

On Windows?

>  However I completed installation and a message says installation is
>  complete and now remove your installation media USB. When I restart my 
> laptop a message says 
> 
>  "Error: file "/boot/grub/i386-pc/normal.mod' not found .
> 
>  Entering rescue mode
>  grub rescue>

Not good. The system is repairable but it would be vastly quicker for
you to reinstall, taking into account Erwan David's advice. I'd delete
the partitions you had set up before and install everything to one
partition. GRUB should go in the MBR; /dev/sda probably.


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Re: Please help me

2014-06-25 Thread Ric Moore


It's much better if your subject line reflects your problem. "Please 
help me" doesn't make the topic searchable for anyone else that may have 
your same problem. Then you are the sole recipient of the help others 
are investing their time in. I'm surprised anyone responded at all. :/ Ric



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Re: Early access to a console (during runlevel 1)

2014-06-25 Thread Bob Proulx
Chris Bannister wrote:
> Curt wrote:
> > Chris Bannister wrote:
> > > Bob Proulx wrote:
> > >> A proactive admin should be aware of these things and schedule
> > >> appropriate preventative maintenance.
> > >
> > > May I suggest Qualitative Maintenance as a better strategy.
> > >
> > > http://assetinsights.net/Glossary/G_Qualitative_Maintenance.html
> > >
> > > (as opposed to Preventative Maintenance.)
> > 
> > I, for one (well), prefer Preventive Maintenance to Preventative
> > Maintenance, and Quality Maintenance to Qualitative Maintenance.
> 
> e.g. It was quality maintenance being done but unfortunately the wrong
> type of maintenance was being performed too often.
> 
>  * quality maintenance - tasks done to a high standard.
>  * qualitative maintenance - tasks carefully chosen to extend the
>longevity and performance of a device.
>  * preventative maintenance - series of tasks done at specified
>intervals (without regard to longevity and performance of a device.)
>IOW, do the tasks cause unnecessary wear and tear themselves?

I am in agreement.  Good discussion.  But since we are talking what
metrics can be used for fsck type of maintenance?  For disk space we
can follow the amount of free space available.  But for known when an
fsck check should be performed there is pretty much only time and
number of mounts but neither of those seem particularly good at
predicting a problem.  They are just the best that we have available.

In order to use a Qualitative/Quality type of schedule it would seem
that we would need some way to measure said Quality.  What would be
used for that metric?  And if there isn't any then I don't think that
type of schedule can be applied.

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Re: ntp problem

2014-06-25 Thread Bob Proulx
Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
> Pierre Frenkiel wrote:
> > Anyway, the fact that this problem appeared just a few days ago on a
> > machine running since about 5 years seems indicate a hardware
> > problem (battery?)
> 
> Yes, the lower "voltage" caused by a dying battery can increase the
> systematic drift on the RTC, or even stop the clock entirely for a small
> while.

It depends upon the motherboard but most won't draw battery power
unless the computer is not powered.  The battery is only used when the
mains power is not connected.  If the mains power is connected then
the system uses mains power and not the battery power.

If a computer is left sitting off for a long time (years) then the
battery will most likely be drained flat.  But one running under power
doesn't use the battery and shouldn't need it.  Again this is all
motherboard dependent.  They don't have to do it the right way.  But
this is the way we did it.

In any case the motherboard battery and hardware clock is only for
getting time close at system boot time.  After the system is booted
then the OS will keep its own time based upon the system frequency
which is unrelated to the motherboard hardware clock.  So you
basically always have two clocks.  (Notably the Raspberry Pi does not
have a hardware clock at all.  It only has the OS system time.  Only
one clock there.  And it works just fine that way.)

Utilities such as NTP are really good at adjusting the counting per
second to tune the OS view of time to be very accurate.  If that isn't
working then I suspect some other problem.  Such as two daemons
fighting each other both trying to adjust the clock.  Or some other
failure.

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Re: raid/mdadm help

2014-06-25 Thread Rodney D. Myers
On Mon, 23 Jun 2014 18:22:02 +0200
François Patte  wrote:

> Le 23/06/2014 17:22, Rodney D. Myers a écrit :
> 
> which should be still similar in Debian 7. If you are new to RAID,
> 
> 
> So what HTH you says is the good way: create one partitions on each of
> your storages devices (say sdX1 and sdY1) then use the given command:
> 
> # mdadm --create /dev/md0 --level=1 --raid-devices=2 \
>   /dev/sdX1 /dev/sdY1
> 
> Then format the created raid array
> 
> # mkfs.ext4 /dev/md0

Did the above, 1.5 hours ago, was working diligently until a few
moments ago.

now this is what I see;

/sbin/mdadm --detail /dev/md0
/dev/md0:
Version : 1.2
  Creation Time : Wed Jun 25 16:03:44 2014
 Raid Level : raid1
 Array Size : 976630464 (931.39 GiB 1000.07 GB)
  Used Dev Size : 976630464 (931.39 GiB 1000.07 GB)
   Raid Devices : 3
  Total Devices : 3
Persistence : Superblock is persistent

  Intent Bitmap : Internal

Update Time : Wed Jun 25 17:40:37 2014
  State : active, degraded, resyncing 
 Active Devices : 1
Working Devices : 1
 Failed Devices : 2
  Spare Devices : 0

  Resync Status : 6% complete

   Name : riverside:0  (local to host riverside)
   UUID : 22da3cb6:9c3b1aa0:8c8ba2c9:6c3cf76d
 Events : 1145

Number   Major   Minor   RaidDevice State
   0   8   330  active sync   /dev/sdc1
   1   8   491  faulty   /dev/sdd1
   2   8   652  faulty   /dev/sde1


cat /proc/md0
cat: /proc/md0: No such file or directory
root@riverside:~# cat /proc/mdstat 
Personalities : [raid6] [raid5] [raid4] [raid1] 
md0 : active raid1 sde1[2](F) sdd1[1](F) sdc1[0]
  976630464 blocks super 1.2 [3/1] [U__]
  bitmap: 8/8 pages [32KB], 65536KB chunk

unused devices: 


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Re: raid/mdadm help

2014-06-25 Thread Bzzzz
On Wed, 25 Jun 2014 17:43:41 -0400
"Rodney D. Myers"  wrote:

> > # mdadm --create /dev/md0 --level=1 --raid-devices=2 \
> > /dev/sdX1 /dev/sdY1

This is boring: nobody's prying over your shoulder
trying to hack your system, so why hiding devices
real names (especially when they're no hidden below…)

>  Array Size : 976630464 (931.39 GiB 1000.07 GB)
>   Used Dev Size : 976630464 (931.39 GiB 1000.07 GB)
>Raid Devices : 3
>   Total Devices : 3
> Persistence : Superblock is persistent
> 
>   Intent Bitmap : Internal
> 
> Update Time : Wed Jun 25 17:40:37 2014
>   State : active, degraded, resyncing 
>  Active Devices : 1
> Working Devices : 1
>  Failed Devices : 2

You can stop right now 'cos 2 of your HDz have been kicked out
from your array (well, let's finish, it will at least tell you
if the remaining HD has a problem or not).

Final diag: at least 2 of your HDz have unrecoverable
(RAID only?) errors that systematically kicks them out
of an array.

You can't do nothing RAID with these disks (@ least 2 of them).

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Re: raid/mdadm help

2014-06-25 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Rodney D. Myers a écrit :
> 
> Did the above, 1.5 hours ago, was working diligently until a few
> moments ago.
> 
> now this is what I see;
> 
> /sbin/mdadm --detail /dev/md0
> /dev/md0:
> Version : 1.2
>   Creation Time : Wed Jun 25 16:03:44 2014
>  Raid Level : raid1
>  Array Size : 976630464 (931.39 GiB 1000.07 GB)
>   Used Dev Size : 976630464 (931.39 GiB 1000.07 GB)
>Raid Devices : 3
>   Total Devices : 3
> Persistence : Superblock is persistent
> 
>   Intent Bitmap : Internal
> 
> Update Time : Wed Jun 25 17:40:37 2014
>   State : active, degraded, resyncing 
>  Active Devices : 1
> Working Devices : 1
>  Failed Devices : 2
>   Spare Devices : 0
> 
>   Resync Status : 6% complete
> 
>Name : riverside:0  (local to host riverside)
>UUID : 22da3cb6:9c3b1aa0:8c8ba2c9:6c3cf76d
>  Events : 1145
> 
> Number   Major   Minor   RaidDevice State
>0   8   330  active sync   /dev/sdc1
>1   8   491  faulty   /dev/sdd1
>2   8   652  faulty   /dev/sde1

Any messages in the kernel log related to the disks or md which could
explain why the devices become faulty ?


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USB 3.0 support

2014-06-25 Thread Gary Dale
I'm running Jessie on a Gigabyte GA-970A-D3P board with an AMD FX6100 
processor. The board has USB 3.0 ports on the back that don't seem to work.


I have an Eagle Consus external case with a WD Red drive in it. This is 
advertised as supporting USB 3.0, and comes with a cable that has a 
different device end than I'm used to seeing with USB 2.0 devices. 
However, when I plug it into the USB 3.0 ports, it doesn't show up. When 
I plug it into the USB 2.0 ports, it does.


I've had similar experiences with USB 3.0 flash drives.

When I first installed this motherboard, I was having problems with it, 
trying to get the USB ports to work at all. It seemed like the USB2 or 
USB3 ports would work but not at the same time. Moreover, the setting 
also seemed to affect the onboard LAN controller. Anyway, I've been 
working with just USB2 ports for some time but want to connect the 
external drive at full USB3 speeds.


There are BIOS settings dealing with USB that include onboard USB and 
USB controllers (enable/disable) - both enabled. USB legacy support  
(enable/disable) - enabled. And XHCI & EHCI handoff (enable/disable) - 
both enabled.


I'm getting some XHCI and EHCI messages which seem to indicate that the 
XHCI driver is failing to load:


[   19.266657] xhci_hcd :02:00.0: can't setup: -110
[   19.266705] xhci_hcd :02:00.0: USB bus 1 deregistered
[   19.266758] xhci_hcd :02:00.0: init :02:00.0 fail, -110
[   19.266764] Switched to clocksource tsc
[   19.266821] xhci_hcd: probe of :02:00.0 failed with error -110
[   19.267761] [sched_delayed] sched: RT throttling activated
[   19.328206] ehci-pci :00:12.2: EHCI Host Controller
[   19.328221] ehci-pci :00:12.2: new USB bus registered, assigned 
bus number 1
[   19.328229] ehci-pci :00:12.2: applying AMD 
SB700/SB800/Hudson-2/3 EHCI dummy qh workaround

[   19.328242] ehci-pci :00:12.2: debug port 1
[   19.328298] ehci-pci :00:12.2: irq 17, io mem 0xfeb09000
[   19.339809] ehci-pci :00:12.2: USB 2.0 started, EHCI 1.00
[   19.339968] usb usb1: New USB device found, idVendor=1d6b, idProduct=0002
[   19.339975] usb usb1: New USB device strings: Mfr=3, Product=2, 
SerialNumber=1

[   19.339980] usb usb1: Product: EHCI Host Controller
[   19.339984] usb usb1: Manufacturer: Linux 3.14-1-amd64 ehci_hcd
[   19.339987] usb usb1: SerialNumber: :00:12.2
[   19.340262] hub 1-0:1.0: USB hub found
[   19.340286] hub 1-0:1.0: 5 ports detected
[   19.403941] hub 2-0:1.0: USB hub found
[   19.403969] hub 2-0:1.0: 5 ports detected
[   19.404954] usb 3-5: USB disconnect, device number 2
[   19.444516] ehci-pci :00:13.2: EHCI Host Controller
[   19.444532] ehci-pci :00:13.2: new USB bus registered, assigned 
bus number 6
[   19.444543] ehci-pci :00:13.2: applying AMD 
SB700/SB800/Hudson-2/3 EHCI dummy qh workaround

[   19.444581] ehci-pci :00:13.2: debug port 1
[   19.444619] ehci-pci :00:13.2: irq 17, io mem 0xfeb07000
[   19.455871] ehci-pci :00:13.2: USB 2.0 started, EHCI 1.00
[   19.456023] usb usb6: New USB device found, idVendor=1d6b, idProduct=0002
[   19.456031] usb usb6: New USB device strings: Mfr=3, Product=2, 
SerialNumber=1

[   19.456035] usb usb6: Product: EHCI Host Controller
[   19.456039] usb usb6: Manufacturer: Linux 3.14-1-amd64 ehci_hcd
[   19.456042] usb usb6: SerialNumber: :00:13.2
[   19.456290] hub 6-0:1.0: USB hub found
[   19.456304] hub 6-0:1.0: 5 ports detected
[   19.519973] hub 3-0:1.0: USB hub found
[   19.519988] hub 3-0:1.0: 5 ports detected
[   19.584139] ehci-pci :00:16.2: EHCI Host Controller
[   19.584152] ehci-pci :00:16.2: new USB bus registered, assigned 
bus number 7
[   19.584163] ehci-pci :00:16.2: applying AMD 
SB700/SB800/Hudson-2/3 EHCI dummy qh workaround

[   19.584176] ehci-pci :00:16.2: debug port 1
[   19.584213] ehci-pci :00:16.2: irq 17, io mem 0xfeb04000
[   19.595915] ehci-pci :00:16.2: USB 2.0 started, EHCI 1.00
[   19.595973] usb usb7: New USB device found, idVendor=1d6b, idProduct=0002
[   19.595978] usb usb7: New USB device strings: Mfr=3, Product=2, 
SerialNumber=1

[   19.595981] usb usb7: Product: EHCI Host Controller
[   19.595985] usb usb7: Manufacturer: Linux 3.14-1-amd64 ehci_hcd
[   19.595988] usb usb7: SerialNumber: :00:16.2
[   19.596231] hub 7-0:1.0: USB hub found
[   19.596243] hub 7-0:1.0: 4 ports detected
[   19.660026] hub 5-0:1.0: USB hub found
[   19.660041] hub 5-0:1.0: 4 ports detected


I'm also getting a lot of messages similar to:

[1.442345] AMD-Vi: Event logged [IO_PAGE_FAULT device=02:00.0 
domain=0x0015 address=0xbea106c0 flags=0x0010]


that show up before the xhci_hcd messages.

Any ideas anyone?



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Re: raid/mdadm help

2014-06-25 Thread Rodney D. Myers
On Thu, 26 Jun 2014 00:00:31 +0200
B  wrote:

> You can stop right now 'cos 2 of your HDz have been kicked out
> from your array (well, let's finish, it will at least tell you
> if the remaining HD has a problem or not).
> 
> Final diag: at least 2 of your HDz have unrecoverable
> (RAID only?) errors that systematically kicks them out
> of an array.
> 
> You can't do nothing RAID with these disks (@ least 2 of them).

My apologies for boring you.

those 2 hard drives are new, which is the annoying part

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Re: raid/mdadm help

2014-06-25 Thread Bzzzz
On Wed, 25 Jun 2014 20:10:02 -0400
"Rodney D. Myers"  wrote:

> those 2 hard drives are new, which is the annoying part
 
Yeah, but brand new HDz with problems exists :(

As Pascal told you, check anything in /var/log/messages
that could be connected to your problem; also check that
all electrical/data connections are correct.

If everything's good, that'll leave the disks.

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Synaptic messed up

2014-06-25 Thread Maureen L Thomas
I had an orange triangle show up where the upstate square usually 
shows.  I clicked on it and got the following messages.


Error message:

Fetch failed: W:Failed to fetch 
ftp://debian.cites.illinois.edu/pub/debian/dists/wheezy/updates/main/source/Sources 
Unable to fetch file, server said 'Failed to open file. '


, W:Failed to fetch 
ftp://debian.cites.illinois.edu/pub/debian/dists/wheezy/updates/contrib/source/Sources 
Unable to fetch file, server said 'Failed to open file. '


, E:Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old 
ones used instead.





I opened synaptic and received the following:


E: The value 'stable-updates' is invalid for APT::Default-Release as 
such a release is not available in the sources


E: _cache->open() failed, please report.




 I have no idea what the problem is.  It doesn't matter which of the 
U.S. sites I pick I get the same messages.  I deleted synaptic and 
re-installed it from the apt-get command line but it is still there.  
Although today I did get a security update that worked just fine.


 Any thoughts on what I should do to fix this?
 Thank you.




Re: Synaptic messed up

2014-06-25 Thread Tony Baldwin
On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 08:18:41PM -0400, Maureen L Thomas wrote:
> I had an orange triangle show up where the upstate square usually
> shows.  I clicked on it and got the following messages.
> 
> Error message:
> 
> Fetch failed: W:Failed to fetch 
> ftp://debian.cites.illinois.edu/pub/debian/dists/wheezy/updates/main/source/Sources
> Unable to fetch file, server said 'Failed to open file. '
> 
> , W:Failed to fetch 
> ftp://debian.cites.illinois.edu/pub/debian/dists/wheezy/updates/contrib/source/Sources
> Unable to fetch file, server said 'Failed to open file. '
> 
> , E:Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or
> old ones used instead.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> I opened synaptic and received the following:
> 
> 
> E: The value 'stable-updates' is invalid for APT::Default-Release as
> such a release is not available in the sources
> 
> E: _cache->open() failed, please report.
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  I have no idea what the problem is.  It doesn't matter which of the
> U.S. sites I pick I get the same messages.  I deleted synaptic and
> re-installed it from the apt-get command line but it is still there.
> Although today I did get a security update that worked just fine.
> 
>  Any thoughts on what I should do to fix this?

The errors tell us what the problem is.
stable-updates is an invalid value for APT::Default-Release
Probably somewhere in our /etc/apt/source.list you have
"stable-updates" where you should really have
"wheezy-updates".

Do us a favour and paste in the content of your /etc/apt/source.list

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Re: ntp problem

2014-06-25 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Wed, 25 Jun 2014, Bob Proulx wrote:
> It depends upon the motherboard but most won't draw battery power

Lithium cells don't age just because you drain them, they will also degrade
with time.  The fact that they're *always* being drained due to the leakage
current _inside_ the cell (which is really small, but it is NOT zero) also
helps the aging, of course.

> Utilities such as NTP are really good at adjusting the counting per
> second to tune the OS view of time to be very accurate.  If that isn't
> working then I suspect some other problem.  Such as two daemons
> fighting each other both trying to adjust the clock.  Or some other
> failure.

Ideed.  If "ntpd -g" manages to step the clock (initial sync) but loses
synchronization later, that's a problem that is unrelated to the hardware
clock/RTC.

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