Re: Users Not Receiving List Mail
On Thu 03 Apr 2014 at 07:33:04 +0100, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Wed, Apr 02, 2014 at 08:32:01PM +0100, Brian wrote: > > Basically - you get the mail we decide you get. Don't complain, it is good > > for you. So much for freedom of communication. > > You are entirely free to run your own mailserver. (Not a snark: that's exactly > what I do). I do the same but for historical reasons and to some extent convenience collect some of my mail from my ISP. > I used to be a co-administrator for the mail gateways at a large English > University. In common with most Universities, email was an essential part of > core business. That business would be hugely adversely impacted if we did not > filter mail. Something like 95% of incoming mail was rejected. Many tests and > research experiments were carried out on rejections to test false positives, > false negatives, etc. and this was not an egregious amount of rejection. I'm not without sympathy or understanding for the situation you describe and recognise that a good deal of high quality professional care is devoted to the handling of mail. We see the same in the manner this list is managed. However, the relationship with an ISP is usually a different one in that money has changed hands. Because of that I'd expect my mail not to be interfered with. Unfortunately, too many ISPs are not particularly forthcoming on how incoming mail is dealt with and very often offer no way of escaping filtering. Anyway, enough of that; I've taken the thread too far away from its original purpose. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140403080546.gv3...@copernicus.demon.co.uk
Re: no eth0 connection
On Wed 02 Apr 2014 at 20:52:55 -0400, Stephen Powell wrote: > Well, you are right about wheezy. At least on the i386 architecture, > the file does get regenerated at the next boot if you erase it. I > just tried it on a wheezy system I have. But as for jessie, I don't > think that the "bug" you refer to is going to be fixed. This is a design > change made by upstream. See > >https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/24115 > > and > >http://marc.info/?l=linux-hotplug&m=130469470817499&w=2 > > as references. I have added a link to your mail in #735563. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/03042014092045.60a9077a8...@desktop.copernicus.demon.co.uk
metamail removed
hi, I recently discovered that the metamail package has beem removed from Debian distributions (I don't know when, but it seems that this removal is rather old) Do anybody know the reason of this removal? I could re-install it from a RedHat rpm, and up to now, it works perfectly. best regards, -- Pierre Frenkiel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/alpine.deb.2.10.1404031052570.3...@pfr2.frenkiel-hure.net
Re: metamail removed
On Jo, 03 apr 14, 10:58:22, Pierre Frenkiel wrote: > hi, > I recently discovered that the metamail package has beem removed from > Debian distributions (I don't know when, but it seems that this removal > is rather old) > Do anybody know the reason of this removal? > I could re-install it from a RedHat rpm, and up to now, it works perfectly. http://packages.qa.debian.org/ is a very useful source of information ;) Kind regards, Andrei -- http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic http://nuvreauspam.ro/gpg-transition.txt signature.asc Description: Digital signature
dpkg -i first.dep second.dep: installs but does not configure one?
Hi, I have two packages, first and second. Package second depend on package first. I have to use dpkg (I don't use apt, because there is no package server / no online link etc). When I run $ dpkg -i first.dep second.dep I get the error: dpkg: regarding .../nd-second_5.0.02_i386.deb containing nd-second, pre-dependency problem: nd-second pre-depends on nd-first nd-first is unpacked, but has never been configured. After that I am suprised by: root@NOMAD-BLN-R3200Xstd:/# dpkg -l nd-portal nd-persist ii nd-first 5.0.02 i386 first package in nd-secondi386 (no description available) When I now repeat "dpkg -i first.dep second.dep"; it works. It also works when I run: $ dpkg -i first.dep && dpkg -i second.dep According to "man dpkg", configuring is step 6 of installation and it should make no difference whether installing two packages at once or not. Do I missunderstand the man page? Or Is this a bug? In my package or in dpkg or in the man page? However, I already were surprised that dpkg seems not to install in the needed order but in order as specified at command line and that it installs packages even if predeps fail (my wish had been that it atomically works or fails instead). Some articles suggest things like "dpkg -i *deb", but if dpkg does not even installs in the needed order, "dpkg -i *deb" should be a bad advice. What is correct? Any comments appreciated! Regards, Steffen Selecting previously unselected package nd-first. (Reading database ... 23638 files and directories currently installed.) Unpacking nd-first (from .../nd-persist_5.0.02_i386.deb) ... D20: process_archive conffile '/etc/cron.d/nd-first' no package, no hash D01: process_archive oldversionstatus=not installed D02: fork/exec /var/lib/dpkg/tmp.ci/preinst ( install ) --- DEBUG: nd-first/debian/preinst script called D20: tarobject fnnf_new_conff deref='etc/cron.d/nd-first' D01: process_archive updating info directory D02: process_archive tmp.ci script/file '..' contains dot D02: process_archive tmp.ci script/file '/var/lib/dpkg/tmp.ci/control' is control D02: process_archive tmp.ci script/file '/var/lib/dpkg/tmp.ci/postinst' installed as '/var/lib/dpkg/info/nd-first.postinst' D02: process_archive tmp.ci script/file '.' contains dot D02: process_archive tmp.ci script/file '/var/lib/dpkg/tmp.ci/md5sums' installed as '/var/lib/dpkg/info/nd-first.md5sums' D02: process_archive tmp.ci script/file '/var/lib/dpkg/tmp.ci/preinst' installed as '/var/lib/dpkg/info/nd-first.preinst' D02: process_archive tmp.ci script/file '/var/lib/dpkg/tmp.ci/conffiles' installed as '/var/lib/dpkg/info/nd-first.conffiles' D01: generating infodb hashfile dpkg: regarding .../nd-second_5.0.02_i386.deb containing nd-second, pre-dependency problem: nd-second pre-depends on nd-first nd-first is unpacked, but has never been configured. dpkg: error processing /var/lib/nomad/nd-second_5.0.02_i386.deb (--install): pre-dependency problem - not installing nd-second D40: checking dependencies of nd-first:i386 (- ) D40: ok 2 msgs >><< D40: checking Breaks Setting up nd-first (5.0.02) ... D01: deferred_configure updating conffiles D20: deferred_configure '/etc/cron.d/nd-first' (= '/etc/cron.d/nd-persist') useredited=-1 distedited=-1 what=24 D02: fork/exec /var/lib/dpkg/info/nd-first.postinst ( configure ) --- done. Errors were encountered while processing: /var/lib/nomad/nd-second_5.0.02_i386.deb -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/caobounotoj7ytjpsrynrgedwsv00gtl-7ds-ahaqvh3gow4...@mail.gmail.com
Re: metamail removed
On Thu, 3 Apr 2014, Andrei POPESCU wrote: http://packages.qa.debian.org/ is a very useful source of information ;) Thanks for this usefull link, but in that case, it just says: This package is not part of any Debian distribution. Thus you won't find much information here According the news RSS following that, the package was removed from testing in 2009, what seems curious, as I still had it until December 2012. Anyway, that doesn't tell me why it was removed. best regards, -- Pierre Frenkiel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/alpine.deb.2.10.1404031129480.18...@pfr2.frenkiel-hure.net
Re: Gigabyte mother board AMD cpu
On Wednesday 26 March 2014 14:25:08 Steve Litt of Troubleshooters.Com wrote: > * You do the network install > * Choose Expert install or whatever it's called > * Say yes (default is no) to "install nonfree software Thanks, Steve. I had failed to realise that. :-( Useful. Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201404031055.03454.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: metamail removed
On Thu, Apr 03, 2014 at 11:48:25AM +0200, Pierre Frenkiel wrote:
> On Thu, 3 Apr 2014, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
>
> >http://packages.qa.debian.org/ is a very useful source of
> >information ;)
> Thanks for this usefull link, but in that case, it just says:
>
> This package is not part of any Debian distribution. Thus you won't
> find much information here
>
> According the news RSS following that, the package was removed from testing
> in 2009, what seems curious, as I still had it until December 2012.
> Anyway, that doesn't tell me why it was removed.
>
Searching in packages [1] for metamail leads me to a list of news, the first one
(in reverse chronological order) telling me that it has been removed from
testing
because not in unstable (Hint: Package not in unstable), the second one [2] with
the reason you were probably seeking ("RoQA; orphaned, missing upstream,
buggy").
There is a bug report linked, with additional additional-info.
Does this help?
[1] http://packages.qa.debian.org/
[2] http://packages.qa.debian.org/m/metamail/news/20091217T215210Z.html
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Re: dpkg -i first.dep second.dep: installs but does not configure one?
Le 03.04.2014 11:46, Steffen Dettmer a écrit : Hi, I have two packages, first and second. Package second depend on package first. I have to use dpkg (I don't use apt, because there is no package server / no online link etc). When I run $ dpkg -i first.dep second.dep I get the error: dpkg: regarding .../nd-second_5.0.02_i386.deb containing nd-second, pre-dependency problem: nd-second pre-depends on nd-first nd-first is unpacked, but has never been configured. After that I am suprised by: root@NOMAD-BLN-R3200Xstd:/# dpkg -l nd-portal nd-persist ii nd-first 5.0.02 i386 first package in nd-secondi386 (no description available) When I now repeat "dpkg -i first.dep second.dep"; it works. It also works when I run: $ dpkg -i first.dep && dpkg -i second.dep According to "man dpkg", configuring is step 6 of installation and it should make no difference whether installing two packages at once or not. I think that the problem is that the configuration is done for both packages "in the same time" ( yes, I know that it is not really the situation, what I mean is that I suppose that they refer to the system's state *before* the starting of 6th step ). Other that that, why are you using pre-depends and not depends? That would fix the problem. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/fd2b2aa5d4fcba8b107e455a1cdc2...@neutralite.org
Re: Unable to start nm-applet
Le 02.04.2014 19:55, Anubhav Yadav a écrit : Oh, apparently you use sudo to start nm-applet. You really shouldn't do that. All the D-Bus and GConf related error messages etc are because you are trying to start it as root from within a user session. I'd probably try with another desktop environment. Maybe it's actually an issue with i3 or more specifically i3bar not showing the notification icon of nm-applet. And yes xfce, and nm-applet is already there in the xfce4 panel. And then If I run nm-applet again in a terminal in xfce session, it adds another nm-applet there on the xfce panel. So I guess yes, something is wrong with i3 Not really. You are comparing two different things. XFCE is a desktop environment, built for people who want lightweight but very easy to use systems. i3 is a window manager ( the equivalent of xfwm IIRC ), designed for people which are not simple users, but programmers, system administrators, and other sorts of computing geeks. i3 will only manage windows, for you. It handles various applets perfectly, but not the one you are trying to use. The one you are trying to use, depends of stuff like dbus, policykit, etc, which are not easy to configure. A failure in i3 is possible, of course, but... let's try this: install xfce run xfce kill xfwm and start i3 instead ( in the same command, or you might be annoyed because not having any wm will make things a lot harder to control your system. ). then, start the applet. Like this, you'll know if the problem is i3, or a wrong configuration. ( I think there is a specific command to replace a wm with another one, but I can't remember which one ) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/7d721d3e048cbf6add1026af841f0...@neutralite.org
Re: Not receiving list mail
On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 3:04 PM, Brad Rogers wrote: > On Wed, 2 Apr 2014 20:18:11 -0400 > Stephen Allen wrote: > > Hello Stephen, > > >hurt - besides everyone should be on the whitelist if posting to the > >list regularly. > > Form what I understand, you only need to be whitelisted at Debian if you > are *not* subscribed to a list, but wish to post to it. AIUI, it serves > no other purpose. FWIW, you might find the statistics link and the graph of registration informative. -- Joel Rees Be careful where you see conspiracy. Look first in your own heart.
Re: Unable to start nm-applet
Le 02.04.2014 17:11, Anubhav Yadav a écrit : I just took a moment to read your 2nd initial post. The errors you get when starting it as root are probably because the default configuration is to not accept ( via policy kit I guess ) using this applet as root. VLC have the same kind of restrictions. The question is, why when you start it a Humpf... sorry for the truncated mail... I just hit the tab key just before space, and it send the mail... The same thing happened to me and hence I had to send the second mail. I just hope that other guys are getting to read the second mail. so: The question is, why when you start it as a normal user? The package depends on lot of things ( well...gnome's bloatwares often does... ) , if one of those is not started correctly, it might cause the error. We know that it's not dbus, but IIRC, gconf, keyring, notify, and other stuff like that are runnable softwares. Are they started correctly? I will just run ps aux | grep "command" to see if they are started correctly or not. Is there is any other better way to see if they are started correctly or not. I usually use "$ps -A|grep foobar" and have no idea about what does "$ps aux", except that, according to the man: Note that "ps -aux" is distinct from "ps aux". The POSIX and UNIX standards require that "ps -aux" print all processes owned by a user named "x", as well as printing all processes that would be selected by the -a option. If the user named "x" does not exist, this ps may interpret the command as "ps aux" instead and print a warning. This behavior is intended to aid in transitioning old scripts and habits. **It is fragile, subject to change, and thus should not be relied upon.** Anyway, it simply shows if they are started, so probably not good. There is the top command, too, which may help you. Otherwise, since they are, probably, daemons, you can use the command "$/usr/sbin/service --status-all". Another alternative ( quite useful for gdb ), would be to use "$pidof foobar", but I do not know if it can find stuff the owner does not own ( so, you could only see root pids if you are logged as root, AFAIK ). You can also look at dmesg or their logs. neo1691@Innovator:~$ ps aux | grep gconf neo1691 5202 0.0 0.0 53144 2516 ?S20:26 0:00 /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/gconf/gconfd-2 neo1691@Innovator:~$ ps aux | grep keyring neo1691 6255 0.0 0.0 15296 1036 pts/1S+ 20:38 0:00 grep --color=auto keyring so keyring is not there, I remember I stopped the keyring service because it was bringing up the gnome-keyring warning whenever I used to run git commands. Strange that it interacts with git... anyway, could you try to run it for testing purpose? neo1691@Innovator:~$ ps aux | grep notify root33 0.0 0.0 0 0 ?S20:19 0:00 [fsnotify_mark] neo1691 6323 0.0 0.0 15300 1032 pts/1S+ 20:39 0:00 grep --color=auto notify -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/09f80adb30759744570847f95b648...@neutralite.org
RE: Debian and Unicode line drawing
> Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2014 20:35:28 -0400 > From: zlinux...@wowway.com > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Subject: RE: Debian and Unicode line drawing > > Please don't top post. > Ok, sorry > If console-setup was not installed to begin with, it's probably > because you are on an architecture which doesn't need it, such as > s390x. You should de-install it. On the other hand, if your > architecture is i386 or amd64, and console-setup was not installed > to begin with, then something is seriously wrong with your > installation. I'd reinstall if I were you, in that case. > It's amd64 but it's also an OpenVZ VPS so everything is possible :D -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/dub128-w4b8ecd0503719a7f12243da...@phx.gbl
Re: Using reportbug
On Saturday 29 March 2014 19:15:42 Frank Stachyra wrote: > The apparent list of commands at the bottom of the page (e.g., ^G > for Get Help, ^X for Exit, ^etc, etc) produce no result when typed > in, except that they appear as text. What are you typing? Are you typing (sorry, I shall have to use the UK keyboard since I don't actually know what you have got, and it is the one I have got) - so, are you typing shift-6-G, which I would expect to produce text, or ctrl-G, which is what is meant? If the former, that would explain your problems. Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201404031404.56684.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: metamail removed
On Thu, 3 Apr 2014, Francesco Ariis wrote:
Searching in packages [1] for metamail leads me to a list of news, the first one
(in reverse chronological order) telling me that it has been removed from
testing
because not in unstable (Hint: Package not in unstable), the second one [2] with
the reason you were probably seeking ("RoQA; orphaned, missing upstream,
buggy").
There is a bug report linked, with additional additional-info.
Does this help?
yes, thanks. I had just looked at the 1st one...
I feel surprising that such a program didn't find any new maintener. as there
are,
for other applications, a big number of packages to do almost the same job.
I found a replacement candidate to metamail, reformime. I'll see wether it
can provide the same functiunality(expecting it will not get orphaned too!)
best regards,
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Re: Jessie Post-Install
On Wednesday 02 April 2014 19:31:59 Stephen Allen wrote: > Yes know about the CDs and the DVDs - I'm talking about what > happened during a net-install using the defaults. Geesus do really > expect a new user to jump through hoops? You're mad if you do. LOL Since you are so unhappy with Debian's proposed default (proposed, not decided) and think that other list users are mad and only fit to be laughed at (at not with), why don't you just start up or fork your own distro and have it exactly how you like? Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201404031510.21985.lisi.re...@gmail.com
About not receiving email
Hi all, I receive this list's email from everybody except myself. Having completely re-done my .procmailrc (and turned it into a script to construct it from components), I'm pretty sure that my debian-user email is not getting dropped on the floor on my end. With some mailing list managers, you can configure whether you want copies of your own email sent to you (I do). But I don't know how to adjust this config item with the debian-user list. Does anyone know how I'd do this? Thanks, SteveT Steve Litt* http://www.troubleshooters.com/ Troubleshooting Training * Human Performance -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140403110740.4a36702e@mydesk
Re: About not receiving email
On Thu, Apr 03, 2014 at 11:07:40AM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > Hi all, > > I receive this list's email from everybody except myself. Having > completely re-done my .procmailrc (and turned it into a script to > construct it from components), I'm pretty sure that my debian-user > email is not getting dropped on the floor on my end. > Did you check the log for your MTA? > With some mailing list managers, you can configure whether you want > copies of your own email sent to you (I do). But I don't know how to > adjust this config item with the debian-user list. Does anyone know how > I'd do this? > -H -- Henning Follmann | hfollm...@itcfollmann.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140403155438.gl20...@newton.itcfollmann.com
Re: Users Not Receiving List Mail
Brian wrote: [snip] Basically - you get the mail we decide you get. Don't complain, it is good for you. So much for freedom of communication. I disagree. Personally part of what I pay my ISP for is competent quality filtering. They do a very good job - I see very little junk mail and have no evidence of having missed a legitimate email due to filtering. It probably helps that the majority of of the ISP's clients appear to be corporate clients of the ISP's parent. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/533d8889.7050...@cloud85.net
Re: About not receiving email
On Thu, 3 Apr 2014 11:07:40 -0400 Steve Litt wrote: Hello Steve, >copies of your own email sent to you (I do). But I don't know how to >adjust this config item with the debian-user list. Does anyone know how >I'd do this? Send "help" (Without quotes) in the body of a message to majord...@lists.debian.org for what commands, etc. are supported. This should help for your problem. -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)radnever immediately apparent" First night nerves every one night stand What A Waste - Ian Dury And The Blockheads signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Question about firmware in Debian packaging system
On 2014-04-02 15:54 +0200, Klaus wrote: > On 02/04/14 14:30, Paul E Condon wrote: >> Some time during March I made a fresh install of Wheezy on old HP >> hardware using netinst v. 7.4 (the most recent version, I think). >> During the install, I remember reading a warning message to the >> effect that I might need to install non-free firmware and/or drivers. >> I don't remember the exact wording, and there was no opportunity >> to do anything but either 'go-back' or 'continue' , so I selected >> 'continue' and the rest of the install completed without error. >> The issue of possible non-free (soft|firm)ware has remained un-resolved >> in my mind until today when I looked into what was installed in Aptitude. >> In Aptitude I see a number of firmware packages and none of them are >> installed, so apparently they were not needed, so why was the warning >> issued? Is there a place where this is all explained? Is there a generic >> set of drivers that usually work or at least can possibly work. And I was >> lucky enough to have them work, or what? I'm curious. >> >> TIA >> > Have you had a look in /var/log/syslog whether any firmware is loaded, > or whether any firmware is reported missing? > > grep firmware /var/log/syslog That's the wrong place since this file might already have been rotated since the last boot, better grep in dmesg instead: , | $ grep firmware /var/log/syslog | $ dmesg | grep firmware | [ 19.715265] ieee80211 phy0: rt2x00lib_request_firmware: Info - Loading firmware file 'rt2870.bin' | [ 19.807476] ieee80211 phy0: rt2x00lib_request_firmware: Info - Firmware detected - version: 0.29 ` Cheers, Sven -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/87fvlu8gmv@turtle.gmx.de
Re: dpkg -i first.dep second.dep: installs but does not configure one?
On 2014-04-03 14:09 +0200, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: > Le 03.04.2014 11:46, Steffen Dettmer a écrit : >> Hi, >> >> I have two packages, first and second. Package second depend on >> package first. I have to use dpkg (I don't use apt, because there is >> no package server / no online link etc). >> >> When I run >> >> $ dpkg -i first.dep second.dep >> >> I get the error: >> >> dpkg: regarding .../nd-second_5.0.02_i386.deb containing nd-second, >> pre-dependency problem: >> nd-second pre-depends on nd-first >> nd-first is unpacked, but has never been configured. >> >> After that I am suprised by: >> >> root@NOMAD-BLN-R3200Xstd:/# dpkg -l nd-portal nd-persist >> ii nd-first 5.0.02 i386 first package >> in nd-secondi386 (no >> description available) >> >> When I now repeat "dpkg -i first.dep second.dep"; it works. >> >> It also works when I run: >> >> $ dpkg -i first.dep && dpkg -i second.dep >> >> According to "man dpkg", configuring is step 6 of installation and it >> should make no difference whether installing two packages at once or >> not. > > I think that the problem is that the configuration is done for both > packages "in the same time" ( yes, I know that it is not really the > situation, what I mean is that I suppose that they refer to the > system's state *before* the starting of 6th step ). Not really, dpkg is smart enough to figure out the order in which packages need to be configured. Rather the problem is that both packages are _unpacked_ before the first one is configured, and this is where the pre-dependency is not fulfilled. > Other that that, why are you using pre-depends and not depends? That > would fix the problem. Indeed. Cheers, Sven -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/87a9c28geq@turtle.gmx.de
Re: About not receiving email
On Thu, 3 Apr 2014 18:13:39 +0100 Brad Rogers wrote: > On Thu, 3 Apr 2014 11:07:40 -0400 > Steve Litt wrote: > > Hello Steve, > > >copies of your own email sent to you (I do). But I don't know how to > >adjust this config item with the debian-user list. Does anyone know > >how I'd do this? > > Send "help" (Without quotes) in the body of a message to > majord...@lists.debian.org for what commands, etc. are supported. > This should help for your problem. Done! Thanks, SteveT Steve Litt* http://www.troubleshooters.com/ Troubleshooting Training * Human Performance -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140403134804.05d3bad5@mydesk
Re: About not receiving email
On Thu, 3 Apr 2014 11:54:38 -0400 Henning Follmann wrote: > On Thu, Apr 03, 2014 at 11:07:40AM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > I receive this list's email from everybody except myself. Having > > completely re-done my .procmailrc (and turned it into a script to > > construct it from components), I'm pretty sure that my debian-user > > email is not getting dropped on the floor on my end. > > > > Did you check the log for your MTA? Thanks Henning, I use fetchmail, not an MTA, and I don't think fetchmail has a log. But you gave me a great idea. I can just put a .procmailrc recipe at the very top of my procmailrc to catch anything from debian-users. Good call! Thanks, SteveT Steve Litt* http://www.troubleshooters.com/ Troubleshooting Training * Human Performance -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140403134954.3581ac11@mydesk
Re: About not receiving email
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Problem writing custom preseed.cfg
I'm attempting to write a custom preseed.cfg file in order to disable the installation of any bootloader (target box has heavily customized bootloader which I manually reconfigure as required). In the past I've been pointed to template file of an appropriate udeb. I went looking on https://packages.debian.org/stable/debian-installer/ . The only udeb that appeared relevant was nobootloader. Its template file was not helpful. Two questions: 1. In this particular case how do I disable the installation/configuration of ANY bootloader? 2. The general case - how do I discover which udeb is relevant? TIA -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/533da343.8020...@cloud85.net
Re: About not receiving email
On Thu 03 Apr 2014 at 13:49:54 -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > I use fetchmail, not an MTA, and I don't think fetchmail has a log. fetchmail(1) does talk about 'logfile'. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/03042014191942.c0af66a1c...@desktop.copernicus.demon.co.uk
Re: Not receiving list mail
On Thu, 03 Apr 2014, Brad Rogers wrote: > Form what I understand, you only need to be whitelisted at Debian if you > are *not* subscribed to a list, but wish to post to it. AIUI, it serves > no other purpose. That is correct. We use it only to avoid false positives. -- Don Armstrong http://www.donarmstrong.com [The] JK-88 [coffee] percolator is capable of achieving the ultimate balance of aroma and density, aftertaste and emollience, pentosans and tannins. The next step is to reduce the cost of the HPLC-E technology to the point where it can be manufactured for less than the cost of a Boeing 757. -- Charles Stross "Extracts from the Club Diary" in _Toast_ p83-4 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140403183239.gg3...@rzlab.ucr.edu
Re: how to change default pager for tab completions from 'more' to 'less'
On Wed, Apr 02, 2014 at 01:34:54PM -0700, tom arnall wrote: > if i use tab completion, and there are a lot of possibilities, 'more' > is used as the default pager to show the list. I want to see the list > with the 'less' pager. > > example: > > ~/$ cd > > will get: > > Display all 150 possibilities? (y or n) > > if i enter 'y', the 'more' pager is used to display the list. ;o( > > i want 'less'. ;o) > man update-alternatives /etc/alternatives provides a setting for pager update-alternatives --config pager should do it if you execute this command as root / root equivalent via sudo. Hope this helps, AndyC > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org > Archive: > https://lists.debian.org/cafkyrxrhl60ydvgfoh_e0lpzekdw7w2ntvzcfgrt4cwdel6...@mail.gmail.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140403184909.ga4...@galactic.demon.co.uk
Re: Should apt-get autoremove Gain Confirm for Packages Removal?
On 20140402_180526, Jeff Bai wrote: > Hi, > >I am not exactly using Debian but building another distribution with > DPKG and APT as basic package management suite. But we just found that, > when doing apt-get autoremove, there was not a warning or extra notice for > removing packages which sometimes leads to a broken system... > >Well, I would really want to hear what you guys think... > > Jeff Bai from AOSC Autoremove is an incomplete solution to a difficult problem, IMHO. Think of dependencies among packages as a directed graph of links(dependency) between nodes(packages). The data about this graph is contained in the dependent packages in lists of callouts of required services. In general, the graph is not rooted and not even acyclic. It's basically difficult to grasp, much less solve. The Debian approach works in the Debian environment, IMHO. But also, IMHO, there are surely environments in which it would not work well at all. Debian is open for inspection. You can learn about Debian's solution by administering a Debian installation, which you probably have. Try to break it by doing "stupid" things. See how it responds. I recommend using Aptitude for this investigation because it gives you immediate feedback at each step. The system will ask questions that you had not anticipated having to answer. I have no doubt you will quickly grasp what you need to do to keep a system running across changes in configuration. If this is something that you think your intended audience of users can handle, adopt it, and give them Aptitude, and the other user-friendly front ends. If not, make plans for an alternative approach to system configuration. HTH -- Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140403185151.ga24...@pec.lan.gnu
Re: About not receiving email
On Thu, 3 Apr 2014 19:20:58 +0100 Brian wrote: > On Thu 03 Apr 2014 at 13:49:54 -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > > > I use fetchmail, not an MTA, and I don't think fetchmail has a log. > > fetchmail(1) does talk about 'logfile'. > > Start of my /etc/fetchmailrc: set no bouncemail set postmaster 'joe' set daemon 900 set logfile /var/log/fetchmail.log .. .. .. -- Joe -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140403200839.63d41...@jretrading.com
Found answer - was [Re: Problem writing custom preseed.cfg]
Richard Owlett wrote: I'm attempting to write a custom preseed.cfg file in order to disable the installation of any bootloader (target box has heavily customized bootloader which I manually reconfigure as required). In the past I've been pointed to template file of an appropriate udeb. I went looking on https://packages.debian.org/stable/debian-installer/ . The only udeb that appeared relevant was nobootloader. Its template file was not helpful. Two questions: 1. In this particular case how do I disable the installation/configuration of ANY bootloader? I reformulate a Google search and found https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/apbs04.html.en#preseed-bootloader which said in part: B.4.11. Boot loader installation # Grub is the default boot loader (for x86). If you want lilo installed # instead, uncomment this: #d-i grub-installer/skip boolean true # To also skip installing lilo, and install no bootloader, uncomment this # too: #d-i lilo-installer/skip boolean true That was not in example preseed file I had downloaded some time back (link unknown) 2. The general case - how do I discover which udeb is relevant? Read page after consuming caffeinated beverage ;/ IOW - why do I find my own answer only after posting? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/533db2b9.6020...@cloud85.net
Re: About not receiving email
On Thu, Apr 03, 2014 at 08:08:39PM +0100, Joe wrote: > On Thu, 3 Apr 2014 19:20:58 +0100 > Brian wrote: > > > On Thu 03 Apr 2014 at 13:49:54 -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > > > > > I use fetchmail, not an MTA, and I don't think fetchmail has a log. > > > > fetchmail(1) does talk about 'logfile'. > > > > > > Start of my /etc/fetchmailrc: > > set no bouncemail > set postmaster 'joe' > set daemon 900 > set logfile /var/log/fetchmail.log > > .. > .. > .. > However, is the user allowed to write to /var/log? put in your .procmailrc a location for the individual user -H -- Henning Follmann | hfollm...@itcfollmann.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140403191353.go20...@newton.itcfollmann.com
Re: Should apt-get autoremove Gain Confirm for Packages Removal?
I suspect that you will get more useful answers on the developers' list for Apt: https://lists.debian.org/deity/ -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/8761mqfcki@thumper.dhh.gt.org
Details behind a GRUB2 warning message?
I posted this to help-g...@gnu.org a week ago and got no response. Specifically I'm using GRUB 1.98 as installed by Squeeze. " I wish to install GRUB2 in a way that is actively discouraged. I wish to install it in a dedicated partition. The pages on "HOWTO" reference warning message that will result and a TOO BRIEF description of why the message - a possible problem with blocklists. Can someone point me to a detailed description? " In the meantime I've experienced no problems. Does that mean the message is actually moot? Or am I just paranoid enough not to have triggered a failure? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/533db74a.1060...@cloud85.net
Re: Debian installs for the bandwidth limited (e.g. dialup)
Don Armstrong wrote:
On Tue, 01 Apr 2014, Richard Owlett wrote:
The types of questions that a single document or a coordinated
documents should cover include { *NOTE* I've already found at least
partial answers}:
How to install with a preseed file
A. what parameters might be entered after "TAB to edit menu
entry".
B. Use of F2/F1 keys to enter missing instructions.
C. What can be preseeded that isn't mentioned in example
preseed.cfg .
And once you discover that some answers are in template files
in some udeb,
and how to discover the appropriate udeb.
{My current quandary - how do I disable installing ANT boot loader?}
D. Use of meta-packages (custom or not) to install only relevant
software.
E. etc. etc. ...
Most of these should probably be addressed by an additional section in
the installation guide which is integrated into the guide as a whole.
http://anonscm.debian.org/viewvc/d-i/trunk/manual/
and https://www.debian.org/doc/user-manuals#install should help you out;
I'd also contact debian-b...@lists.debian.org with a general plan of
action.
Back when the 8085 was new, I regularly read "App Notes" (haven't
read one in decades).
Would something of that nature be suitable for the wiki?
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Re: About not receiving email
On Thu, 3 Apr 2014 15:13:53 -0400 Henning Follmann wrote: > On Thu, Apr 03, 2014 at 08:08:39PM +0100, Joe wrote: > > On Thu, 3 Apr 2014 19:20:58 +0100 > > Brian wrote: > > > > > On Thu 03 Apr 2014 at 13:49:54 -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > > > > > > > I use fetchmail, not an MTA, and I don't think fetchmail has a > > > > log. > > > > > > fetchmail(1) does talk about 'logfile'. > > > > > > > > > > Start of my /etc/fetchmailrc: > > > > set no bouncemail > > set postmaster 'joe' > > set daemon 900 > > set logfile /var/log/fetchmail.log > > > > .. > > .. > > .. > > > > However, is the user allowed to write to /var/log? > put in your .procmailrc a location for the individual user > > Yes, mine is system-wide, fetchmailrc is in /etc. Log file is fetchmail:root 664. But that's where you tell fetchmail where its log is. I believe it will log to syslog if there isn't an explicit entry, but it's a long time since I last played with it. -- Joe -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140403220500.7a042...@jretrading.com
Re: Debian installs for the bandwidth limited (e.g. dialup)
On Thu, 03 Apr 2014, Richard Owlett wrote: > Would something of that nature be suitable for the wiki? I think you could develop it on the wiki too. The main advantage of the installation guide is that it covers a lot of the background which you will need to completely discuss preseeding. A secondary advantage is that it is translated into many languages, whereas the wiki is not. Appendix B of the install guide[1] appears to have a start on it. See https://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/Preseed in the wiki too. 1: https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/apb.html.en -- Don Armstrong http://www.donarmstrong.com Frankly, if ignoring inane opinions and noisy people and not flaming them to crisp is bad behavior, I have not yet achieved a state of nirvana. -- Manoj Srivastava in 87n04pzhmh@glaurung.internal.golden-gryphon.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140403213222.gk3...@rzlab.ucr.edu
Re: Jessie Post-Install
On Thu, Apr 03, 2014 at 03:10:21PM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Wednesday 02 April 2014 19:31:59 Stephen Allen wrote: > > Yes know about the CDs and the DVDs - I'm talking about what > > happened during a net-install using the defaults. Geesus do really > > expect a new user to jump through hoops? You're mad if you do. LOL > > Since you are so unhappy with Debian's proposed default (proposed, not > decided) and think that other list users are mad and only fit to be > laughed at (at not with), why don't you just start up or fork your > own distro and have it exactly how you like? It's for newbies that I'm attempting to advocate for. But, thanks for your sincere thoughts on how I should proceed. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140403224513.GA8047@Jessie
Re: Not receiving list mail
On Wed, Apr 02, 2014 at 10:27:02PM -0600, Paul E Condon wrote: > Read the description at Debian.org. I don't get my ideas about why it > is there from hearsay. I didn't know about it until you mentioned it. > I looked for it today and report what I found. > > > Seriously, you would expect people that don't post regularly to > > subscribe to a whitelist - Dream on. How would they even know it exists? > > I don't have any expectation or knowledge about how it is actually > used. I do think that somebody more central to the Debian community > than I, did have the expectation that is stated on the web site. I > remember when software market gurus believed that open or free > software was a crazy idea that never would be useful. Maybe it is > still not useful for some people, but I don't think that view is held > by many of the people who frequent this list. Part of Debian is an > avowed goal of Changing the World. Straightforward statements of this > can also be found on Debian.org > > IMHO, you are mistaken in your assessment of the internal workings > of Debian, and it colors the advice that you give. > > My paraphrase of what is said was only for the purpose of informing > of what I had found. I hope you and others will find it, read it, > and try to understand where it fits in the Debian scheme of things. I've been here (not always participating) over 12 years, so I think I know how things work somewhat. If you had been paying attention - you would have noticed that it was mentioned that at one time yours truly had been told to use said whitelist by one of "one of those close to the Debian community". Now perhaps they were mistaken, all I'm saying is what I was told. What advice are you referring to exactly? You do know that participication in the Debian community is often controversial at times, and when did I ever comment on the "Internal workings of Debian"? I do lurk on the developers list, but don't believe I've ever commented on the workings internally Even with the amusing at times systemd discourse. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140403225721.GB8047@Jessie
Re: Source.list URL
Andrei > > Rather a redirector, but as far as end users are concerned the > > difference is not important. See http://http.debian.net/ for more > > details. > That was great! Thank you. I really like the security behind the mirrors. ray -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/f8d9c5ca-b366-4536-a991-75f1c6075...@googlegroups.com
Re: Source.list URL
Marc, > One small note -- it would be helpful to include a little bit of context > > in your messages (like I did here) to help people see what you're > > responding to. > Thank you. I will do that. ray -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/0931885b-b776-43e3-a303-e0a3ea0bd...@googlegroups.com
Re: Not receiving list mail
On 20140403_1857-0400, Stephen Allen wrote: > On Wed, Apr 02, 2014 at 10:27:02PM -0600, Paul E Condon wrote: > > Read the description at Debian.org. I don't get my ideas about why it > > is there from hearsay. I didn't know about it until you mentioned it. > > I looked for it today and report what I found. > > > > > Seriously, you would expect people that don't post regularly to > > > subscribe to a whitelist - Dream on. How would they even know it exists? > > > > I don't have any expectation or knowledge about how it is actually > > used. I do think that somebody more central to the Debian community > > than I, did have the expectation that is stated on the web site. I > > remember when software market gurus believed that open or free > > software was a crazy idea that never would be useful. Maybe it is > > still not useful for some people, but I don't think that view is held > > by many of the people who frequent this list. Part of Debian is an > > avowed goal of Changing the World. Straightforward statements of this > > can also be found on Debian.org > > > > IMHO, you are mistaken in your assessment of the internal workings > > of Debian, and it colors the advice that you give. > > > > My paraphrase of what is said was only for the purpose of informing > > of what I had found. I hope you and others will find it, read it, > > and try to understand where it fits in the Debian scheme of things. > > I've been here (not always participating) over 12 years, so I think I > know how things work somewhat. If you had been paying attention - you > would have noticed that it was mentioned that at one time yours truly > had been told to use said whitelist by one of "one of those close to the > Debian community". Now perhaps they were mistaken, all I'm saying is > what I was told. I'm 81yrs, I don't have perfect recall, but in the recent past you went to the trouble of finding an exact reference as to the purpose of the white list and you posted it here, but you apparently did not take the time to read it. Slow down a bit. You'll live longer and give better advice. > > What advice are you referring to exactly? You do know that That almost everyone should sign up for whitelist? Maybe you didn't say that exactly but some people seemed to draw that conclusion. Peace. -- Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140404003605.ga3...@pec.lan.gnu
Re: About not receiving email
On 04/04/14 02:07, Steve Litt wrote: > Hi all, > > I receive this list's email from everybody except myself. Having > completely re-done my .procmailrc (and turned it into a script to > construct it from components), I'm pretty sure that my debian-user > email is not getting dropped on the floor on my end. > > With some mailing list managers, you can configure whether you want > copies of your own email sent to you (I do). But I don't know how to > adjust this config item with the debian-user list. Does anyone know how > I'd do this? > > Thanks, > > SteveT > > Steve Litt* http://www.troubleshooters.com/ > Troubleshooting Training * Human Performance > > Your mail setup is a little, um, odd; *no* TLS configured or SPF records, and other strangeness, the mailserver seems to be tarpitting which might cause some problems. (mx.futurequest.net69.5.6.201) Some mail providers, e.g. gmail don't return emails with content that is a duplicate of that which has already been sent. Perhaps that's what futurequest is doing with your mail? Kind regards -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/533e0589.2000...@gmail.com
Re: [SOLVED LESS]Grub does not recognize lvm physical volume by uuid after restart
On Tue, 2014-04-01 at 20:39 +0100, Joe wrote: > On Tue, 25 Mar 2014 18:05:39 -0300 > André Nunes Batista wrote: > > > On Tue, 2014-03-25 at 14:15 -0300, André Nunes Batista wrote: > > > On Mon, 2014-03-24 at 12:36 +, Darac Marjal wrote: > > > > On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 12:17:17PM +, Joe wrote: > > > > > On Mon, 24 Mar 2014 11:17:53 + > > > > > Darac Marjal wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now, I'm not certain about this, but I suspect that either the > > > > > > initramfs hasn't recognised that I'm using LVM, or it just > > > > > > isn't starting the LVM on its own. > > > > > > > > > > > > I haven't actually investigated this, but it might be related > > > > > > to bug #616689. > > > > > > > > > > Except... both the OP's initramfs and mine do recognise the swap > > > > > partition within LVM, but not any others. > > > > > > > > > > And my system is (apparently) OK after downgrading grub from > > > > > the latest version. > > > > > > > > Ah. Sorry for the noise, then. > > > > > > > > > > Your answer proved not be noise at all. I tried to follow Joe's > > > steps and downgraded grub2-common, grub-common, grub-pc and > > > grub-pc-bin all to jessie (2.00-22), ran update-grub2 and then > > > grub-install /dev/sda and lost my grub.cfg. > > > > > > I've restored it using supergrubdisk, which, when booting, gave me > > > access to that previous initramfs shell. Then I ran vgchange -ay > > > ^D, ^D and was able to boot the system. > > > > > > One thing caught my eye through the process: grub says it's > > > generating configs for i386 only, but this machine uses amd64 > > > kernel. As soon as I get the chance I'll read #616689 and try to > > > investigate it further on this machine. Currently it only boots > > > through this forced activation method you taught me. > > > > > > > I'm marking this thread as solved as I finally got to restore the > > system boot process. To anyone who may care, after booting the OS as > > described above, I once again reconfigured grub packages, keeping it > > downgraded to 2.00-22, as suggested by Joe. After that I could > > update-grub2 and got no complaints when installing to /dev/sda. > > > > Grub2 2.02~beta2-8 packages now available in sid, booting OK for me. Less is more, Joe! I confirm that upgrading to grub2 2.02~beta2-8 also solves the my machine. -- André N. Batista GNUPG/PGP KEY: 6722CF80 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
