Re: Share VPN connection

2013-12-01 Thread Joe
On Sun, 1 Dec 2013 09:51:04 +1100
Zenaan Harkness  wrote:


> 
> e) be clear on the difference between PTPP tunnelling link,
> unencrypted, which looks acts and quacks like a VPN-duck to the other
> machines on your local LAN, as compared to a true VPN, which also
> encrypts the tunnel.
> 

PPTP uses a TCP channel (port 1723) to negotiate and control, and an
encrypted tunnel on IP protocol 47 (Generic Routing Encapsulation) to
carry data, and as far as I am aware, it always has done. There is a
range of encryption and authentication options, which can include
certificates. It has disadvantages compared to IPSec, but it isn't
dependent on endpoint IP addresses, so will pass through layers of NAT
without any faffing about.

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Re: A rookie's query: Want to about Debian and the related

2013-12-01 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sun, 2013-12-01 at 02:40 -0500, Doug McGarrett wrote:
> You can go to the preferences and choose another start page
> if you like. (That's not Thunderbird, of course, that's Firefox.)
> Anyway, if you'd rather have Bing, you can have it. Or Yahoo.
> Or whatever pleases you.

I wasn't talking about the abilities of Mozilla browsers, as I already
mentioned, I'm using them, I just don't like the policy. If you package
e.g. Firefox for a distro, it's possible to use another startpage by
default, but it's not allowed to do it. This is one problem I've got
with Mozillas. IOW, the very first time you start a Mozilla browser that
was packaged without offending a license, you will load their Google
thingy. This is restricted freedom, IOW not freedom. Google is known as
a data protection risk. Changing it by the GUI, after you already
started Firefox, doesn't prevent you against collecting data by Google
and Google's friends, such as the NSA.

Regards,
Ralf


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Re: Share VPN connection

2013-12-01 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Ron Leach a écrit :
> On 30/11/2013 20:22, François Fayard wrote:
>>
>> With the VPN, route gives :
>>
>> Kernel IP routing table
>> Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUse Iface
>> default *   0.0.0.0 U 0  00 ppp0
>> 10.42.0.0   *   255.255.255.0   U 0  00 eth0
>> strong-mf35.rel 192.168.1.1 255.255.255.255 UGH   0  00 eth1
>> strong-mf35.rel 192.168.1.1 255.255.255.255 UGH   0  00 eth1
>> 129.189.255.173 *   255.255.255.255 UH0  00 ppp0
>
> this seems to be the reverse of what was in ifconfig for ppp0.  I'm 
> not sure if that is correct.

I guess you mean 129.189.255.173 seems to be the reverse of
173.255.189.129, the remote address of ppp0. Actually it is not an
address but the partial (due to lack of display space) reverse DNS of
173.255.189.129 :

Name :129.189.255.173.client.dyn.strong-mf35.as54203.net
Address:  173.255.189.129

One should always run the route command with the -n option to avoid
reverse name resolution which, as can be seen, obfuscates the output.

>> 192.168.1.0 *   255.255.255.0   U 0  00 eth1
> 
> I notice that your shared eth1 local LAN network is using
> 192.168.1.0/24,
> and your machine's IP address on eth1 is 192.168.1.30.
> 
> That address, 192.168.1.30, will be the local LAN's gateway to your 
> external VPN.  So check that all the other machines have a gateway 
> setting of 192.168.1.30.

No, eth1 is the internet side. The LAN side is on eth0.

> I'm a bit surprised to see the VPN *also* has a route in the 
> 192.168.1.0/24 range.

It doesn't. The only route to 192.168.1.0/24 is on eth1.

The routing table is correct if François wants to share the VPN with the
rest of the LAN. François must review the iptables rules to check that :
- SNAT/MASQUERADE is enabled on ppp0
- FORWARDed packets between eth0 and ppp0 are accepted.

Also, he must check which DNS the machines on the LAN use. If they use
the DNS proxy/relay provided by the internet box or the Debian router,
then it is fine. But if they use the DNS provided by the ISP, these
won't reply when queried through the VPN.


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Re: A rookie's query: Want to about Debian and the related

2013-12-01 Thread AP
On Sun, Dec 1, 2013 at 5:07 AM, Zenaan Harkness  wrote:

> "Dear AP, unfortunately you have made an assumption here based on
> irrelevant non-technical innuendo from Ralph (see above). But I won't
> hold that against you. For now :)"

No no I just read everybody's views but didn't make any assumption. I
don't know much of the Linux part, so asked. But at most of the
places, I didn't find Ralph's suggestions badHe just said "to use
and then decide" which is okaybecause the it all depends on
tastes, I believe

> Best regards to all, and may your life journey's be fruitful,

Same to you too Zenaan. Your wishes are great.


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Re: A rookie's query: Want to about Debian and the related

2013-12-01 Thread AP
On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 9:51 PM, Ralf Mardorf
 wrote:

> I guess I will test it this weekend or within the next month. But I also
> will test KMail on different installs. I'm undecided what DE I will use
> in the future and also what MUA. For me it's important that I can use
> the same DE and MUA when switching a distro. I'm not fixed to a
> distribution, DE or MUA, I simply use what will fit best to my needs. I
> just don't want to switch too much at the same time, assumed there
> should be the need to do that. Switching the distro and MUA very seldom
> happened in the last ten years, but unfortunately I had to switch the DE
> too often for my taste.

Okay.

> IMO you simply should install several mail clients and keep the mails on
> the server after downloading them, so you could test several MUAs
> without loosing Emails, or without having to worry that you unintended
> download some mails duplicated. If such an issue happens you simply can
> delete the MUAs mail folder. Once you know what MUA is the best one for
> you, you only should use that one and then it's no risk to delete the
> mails after receiving.

Well, but I really don't have much time to install each and everything
and then to decide. But IMO, it would be fine if I install just anyone
and then see its effects for one-two months and then do the same
process with other clientthough it seems typical too..! But I
see how to accomplish this!

> MUAs could behave different depending to the usage of IMAP or POP, you
> perhaps should test this too.

Oh.

> Don't believe a claim that something should be the best MUA, that are
> just our opinions for the way we use MUAs. You should read about
> advantages and drawbacks of mail directory formats, IMAP, POP and then
> verify it on your own ;).

Correct but at least if some particular MUA is used by several people
(more than any other MUA is used by some people) then the particular
MUA is worthy of use. Though I think it could be either of Thunderbird
or Evolution or KMailbut I am not sure which one is used widely
and by maximum no. of people.


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Re: A rookie's query: Want to about Debian and the related

2013-12-01 Thread Linux-Fan
On 12/01/2013 10:57 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> On Sun, 2013-12-01 at 02:40 -0500, Doug McGarrett wrote:
>> You can go to the preferences and choose another start page
>> if you like. (That's not Thunderbird, of course, that's Firefox.)
>> Anyway, if you'd rather have Bing, you can have it. Or Yahoo.
>> Or whatever pleases you.
> 
> I wasn't talking about the abilities of Mozilla browsers, as I already
> mentioned, I'm using them, I just don't like the policy. If you package
> e.g. Firefox for a distro, it's possible to use another startpage by
> default, but it's not allowed to do it. This is one problem I've got
> with Mozillas. IOW, the very first time you start a Mozilla browser that
> was packaged without offending a license, you will load their Google
> thingy. This is restricted freedom, IOW not freedom. Google is known as
> a data protection risk. Changing it by the GUI, after you already
> started Firefox, doesn't prevent you against collecting data by Google
> and Google's friends, such as the NSA.
> 
> Regards,
> Ralf

IIRC the start page is integrated in Firefox as "about:home" (at least
with newer versions) so nothing is loaded from the Google servers as
long as you do not enter any search term and press Enter.

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Firestarter Events always empty

2013-12-01 Thread Gábor Hársfalvi
Why?

Thanks for all possible answers


Re: A rookie's query: Want to about Debian and the related

2013-12-01 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sun, 2013-12-01 at 17:54 +0530, AP wrote:
> Correct but at least if some particular MUA is used by several people
> (more than any other MUA is used by some people) then the particular
> MUA is worthy of use. Though I think it could be either of Thunderbird
> or Evolution or KMailbut I am not sure which one is used widely
> and by maximum no. of people.

Thunderbird is the most use GUI MUA, because it's used on other
platforms too. IOW, for Debian it's Icedove. Debian needs to rename
Thunderbird, but that's another story.

Mozillas (not only Thunderbird/Icedove), KMail, Evolution and Sylpheed
are often used. IMO even Opera has got a usable mail client, but I
suspect it's not that often used as the others.



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Re: A rookie's query: Want to about Debian and the related

2013-12-01 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sun, 2013-12-01 at 13:29 +0100, Linux-Fan wrote:
> IIRC the start page is integrated in Firefox as "about:home" (at least
> with newer versions) so nothing is loaded from the Google servers as
> long as you do not enter any search term and press Enter.

Without reading the code I'll test it soon. We only need to go off-line,
move the config and restart Firefox.



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Re: A rookie's query: Want to about Debian and the related

2013-12-01 Thread AP
On Sun, Dec 1, 2013 at 6:02 PM, Ralf Mardorf  wrote:

> Thunderbird is the most use GUI MUA, because it's used on other
> platforms too. IOW, for Debian it's Icedove. Debian needs to rename
> Thunderbird, but that's another story.

> Mozillas (not only Thunderbird/Icedove), KMail, Evolution and Sylpheed
> are often used. IMO even Opera has got a usable mail client, but I
> suspect it's not that often used as the others.

Oh well. I would Google and see why Debian want the other name for
Thunderbird...whatever...Now, I have to think for only three
candidates:

KMail, Evolution and Thunderbird for the time beingmay be one by one.


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Re: A rookie's query: Want to about Debian and the related

2013-12-01 Thread Joe
On Sun, 01 Dec 2013 13:32:30 +0100
Ralf Mardorf  wrote:

> On Sun, 2013-12-01 at 17:54 +0530, AP wrote:
> > Correct but at least if some particular MUA is used by several
> > people (more than any other MUA is used by some people) then the
> > particular MUA is worthy of use. Though I think it could be either
> > of Thunderbird or Evolution or KMailbut I am not sure which one
> > is used widely and by maximum no. of people.
> 
> Thunderbird is the most use GUI MUA, because it's used on other
> platforms too. IOW, for Debian it's Icedove. Debian needs to rename
> Thunderbird, but that's another story.
> 
> Mozillas (not only Thunderbird/Icedove), KMail, Evolution and Sylpheed
> are often used. IMO even Opera has got a usable mail client, but I
> suspect it's not that often used as the others.
> 
> 
> 

+ claws-mail

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Re: Firestarter Events always empty

2013-12-01 Thread Andreas Rönnquist
On Sun, 1 Dec 2013 13:31:28 +0100,
Gábor Hársfalvi wrote:

>Why?
>
>Thanks for all possible answers

From the Debian description at [1]:

"Firestarter is no longer developed and is missing some critical
features such as IPv6 support, so users may be advised to look into
more modern alternatives such as gufw."

To me it looks like (sadly enough) it hasn't had an upstream release
since 2005. [2]

If I were you, I would look for alternatives.

[1]: http://packages.debian.org/sid/firestarter
[2]: http://sourceforge.net/projects/firestarter/files/firestarter/

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Re: A rookie's query: Want to about Debian and the related

2013-12-01 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sun, 2013-12-01 at 13:01 +, Joe wrote:
> On Sun, 01 Dec 2013 13:32:30 +0100
> Ralf Mardorf  wrote:
> > Sylpheed
> 
> + claws-mail

We need to explain that Sylpheed and Claws are more or less the same
candidate.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claws_Mail
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sylpheed




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Re: Firestarter Events always empty

2013-12-01 Thread Gábor Hársfalvi
2013/12/1 Andreas Rönnquist 

> On Sun, 1 Dec 2013 13:31:28 +0100,
> Gábor Hársfalvi wrote:
>
> >Why?
> >
> >Thanks for all possible answers
>
> From the Debian description at [1]:
>
> "Firestarter is no longer developed and is missing some critical
> features such as IPv6 support, so users may be advised to look into
> more modern alternatives such as gufw."
>
> To me it looks like (sadly enough) it hasn't had an upstream release
> since 2005. [2]
>
> If I were you, I would look for alternatives.
>
> [1]: http://packages.debian.org/sid/firestarter
> [2]: http://sourceforge.net/projects/firestarter/files/firestarter/
>
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I know its too old - but on other PC-s Firestarter works well with the same
system - Debian Squeeze.

I just tried gufw too - but its not so good for me - in Firestarter I like
Events tab where I can block/unblock anything very quickly. Is there any
Firewall for Debian like this? I will try that


Re: A rookie's query: Want to about Debian and the related

2013-12-01 Thread Joe
On Sun, 01 Dec 2013 15:07:46 +0100
Ralf Mardorf  wrote:

> On Sun, 2013-12-01 at 13:01 +, Joe wrote:
> > On Sun, 01 Dec 2013 13:32:30 +0100
> > Ralf Mardorf  wrote:
> > > Sylpheed
> > 
> > + claws-mail
> 
> We need to explain that Sylpheed and Claws are more or less the same
> candidate.
> 
>

Yes, in the same way that LibreOffice and Apache OpenOffice are more or
less the same thing.

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Re: Getting apt-cdrom to work

2013-12-01 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Sb, 30 nov 13, 17:19:07, Brian Sammon wrote:
> On Sat, 30 Nov 2013 12:49:13 +0200
> Andrei POPESCU  wrote:
> > 
> > Could you please post the output of
> > 
> > apt-cache policy
> > apt-cache policy acpi
> 
> # apt-cache policy
> Package files:
>  100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
>  release a=now
>  500 ftp://ftp-nyc.osuosl.org/debian/ squeeze/non-free i386 Packages
>  release v=6.0.8,o=Debian,a=oldstable,n=squeeze,l=Debian,c=non-free
>  origin ftp-nyc.osuosl.org
>  500 ftp://ftp-nyc.osuosl.org/debian/ squeeze/contrib i386 Packages
>  release v=6.0.8,o=Debian,a=oldstable,n=squeeze,l=Debian,c=contrib
>  origin ftp-nyc.osuosl.org
>  500 ftp://ftp-nyc.osuosl.org/debian/ squeeze/main i386 Packages
>  release v=6.0.8,o=Debian,a=oldstable,n=squeeze,l=Debian,c=main
>  origin ftp-nyc.osuosl.org
>  500 http://archive.debian.org/debian-archive/debian/ lenny/main i386 Packages
>  release v=5.0.10,o=Debian,a=oldstable,n=lenny,l=Debian,c=main
>  origin archive.debian.org
>  500 http://archive.debian.org/debian-archive/debian/ etch/main i386 Packages
>  release v=4.0r9,o=Debian,a=oldstable,n=etch,l=Debian,c=main
>  origin archive.debian.org
>  500 cdrom://[Debian GNU/Linux 7.0.0 _Wheezy_ - Official i386 CD Binary-1 
> 20130504-15:20]/ wheezy/main Translation-en
>  500 cdrom://[Debian GNU/Linux 7.0.0 _Wheezy_ - Official i386 CD Binary-1 
> 20130504-15:20]/ wheezy/main i386 Packages
>  origin Debian GNU/Linux 7.0.0 _Wheezy_ - Official i386 CD Binary-1 
> 20130504-15:20
> Pinned packages:

Is this a lenny, squeeze or wheezy machine? It's not a good idea to mix 
releases. Lenny is not even supported anymore.

> # apt-cache policy acpi
> acpi:
>   Installed: (none)
>   Candidate: 1.6-1
>   Version table:
>  1.6-1 0
> 500 cdrom://[Debian GNU/Linux 7.0.0 _Wheezy_ - Official i386 CD 
> Binary-1 20130504-15:20]/ wheezy/main i386 Packages
>  1.5-2 0
> 500 ftp://ftp-nyc.osuosl.org/debian/ squeeze/main i386 Packages
>  1.1-2 0
> 500 http://archive.debian.org/debian-archive/debian/ lenny/main i386 
> Packages
>  0.09-1 0
> 500 http://archive.debian.org/debian-archive/debian/ etch/main i386 
> Packages

According to this you shouldn't need to specify the release or version, 
because apt prefers the wheezy version anyway (because it's newer).

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Re: 0.7.46 changelog: Change /run/network ownership to root:netdev.

2013-12-01 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Sb, 30 nov 13, 21:40:38, Regid Ichira wrote:
>   Sent this message to ifupdown@packages.d.o a few days ago.  So far,
> I didn't get a reply.  Perhaps I should have asked the list prior to
> asking the maintainer.
> 
> Package: ifupdown
> Version: 0.7.46.1
> 
> $ zgrep -B3 netdev /usr/share/doc/ifupdown/changelog.gz | \
> >   sed '2,3d'
> ifupdown (0.7.46) unstable; urgency=low
>   * Change /run/network ownership to root:netdev.
> 
>   I don't understand that entry.  Should I have /run/network group
> set to netdev?  Should I have a netdev group somewhere?  Is there a
> bug?
> 
> $ ls -gd /run/network/
> drwxr-xr-x 2 root 60 Nov 20 20:51 /run/network/
> $ getent group netdev; printf $?
> 2

This is the changelog, i.e. the place where the package maintainer logs 
the changes to the previous version. If the admin would be required to 
do something that would go to the NEWS.Debian file. You might want to 
install apt-listchanges to have these displayed whenever there are new 
items in there.

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Re: Share VPN connection

2013-12-01 Thread François Fayard
Hi,

I finally got it to work using the same steps as before. I have no idea why it 
works now and it did not use too.

Thanks for all you help.
François

On Nov 30, 2013, at 23:51 , Zenaan Harkness  wrote:

> On 12/1/13, Ron Leach  wrote:
>> On 30/11/2013 20:22, François Fayard wrote:
> 
> Francois, it might be useful if you let us know what software you are
> using to set up the vpn.
> 
> To set up NAT ("ICS") I use a little nat-enable shell script:
> ---
> #!/bin/sh
> wan=eth2
> echo "NOTE: external/WAN Internet facing device is set to:"
> echo "  $wan"
> echo "1" > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
> iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o $wan -j MASQUERADE
> #iptables -A FORWARD -i $wan -o eth1 -m state \
> # --state RELATED,ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT
> #iptables -A FORWARD -i eth1 -o $wan -j ACCEPT
> echo "NAT enabled for $wan"
> ---
> 
> So after establishing your vpn as ppp0, you would probably need to
> re-run the above script (on the vpn gateway host) with "wan=ppp0" line
> in the above script.
> 
> However, we are kind of grasping at straws here, because we don't know
> how you're setting up NAT, or your VPN.
> 
>> I think the problem is a routing gateway; and I am suspicious of the
>> '*' entry on the default line.  My guess is that the default route
>> should not be *, should not be 192.168.1.anything, but should be
>> something like the ppp0 far end address, which is 173.255.189.129 .
> 
> Yes.
> 
> But, is ppp0 likely to include the "private" part of VPN?
> 
> I would with eg OpenVPN expect tun0, not ppp0.
> 
> Which Linux-based VPN software encrypts over ppp0 device?
> 
>> Also, be clear what
>> (a) the address is that the other machines use to reach your Debian
>> system (that is the 'gateway' address for them), and
> 
>> (b) it should be a different gateway address from the 'gateway
>> address' that your Debian machine uses for its gateway
> 
>> (c) and the gateway address that your debian machine uses
>> should be on the default route line in the route table, I believe.
> This sounds ambiguous. Let's say:
> After establishing your VPN on your local-LAN gateway host, it's
> default route should be the address of the far-end of the VPN link;
> and that routing table will still need specific routes (the VPN
> software/config should set this up).
> 
>> (d) and your VPN should be on a different IP address subnet from the
>> local LAN subnet
> Definitely.
> 
> e) be clear on the difference between PTPP tunnelling link,
> unencrypted, which looks acts and quacks like a VPN-duck to the other
> machines on your local LAN, as compared to a true VPN, which also
> encrypts the tunnel.
> 
> f) also, make sure you update your NAT firewall rule after bringing up your 
> VPN
> 
> Good luck
> Zenaan
> 
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Re: A rookie's query: Want to about Debian and the related

2013-12-01 Thread Paul E Condon
On 20131201_133458, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> On Sun, 2013-12-01 at 13:29 +0100, Linux-Fan wrote:
> > IIRC the start page is integrated in Firefox as "about:home" (at least
> > with newer versions) so nothing is loaded from the Google servers as
> > long as you do not enter any search term and press Enter.
> 
> Without reading the code I'll test it soon. We only need to go off-line,
> move the config and restart Firefox.
> 
> 
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I just finished a simple test of this issue. My test ended with my 'start' page
being blank and the tab for it containing the text, 'New Tab'. And can't change
it --- like I've discovered a bug. More after a reboot...

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Re: [debian-user] Howto build Debian source packages (tar.gz)??

2013-12-01 Thread Nick Rudnick
Dear all,

here is how it worked for me:
> apt-get install debhelper ### (>= 9)
> apt-get install dkms
> apt-get install quilt
> apt-get install nvidia-support

Some packages I got from elsewhere (by googling), e.g.:
+
http://packages.debian.org/wheezy-backports/amd64/glx-alternative-mesa/download
+
http://pkgs.org/debian-wheezy/debian-backports-contrib-amd64/glx-alternative-nvidia_0.4.0~bpo70+1_amd64.deb.html
+ http://packages.debian.org/wheezy/amd64/libvdpau1/download
+ http://packages.debian.org/wheezy/amd64/nvidia-kernel-common/download
+ http://packages.debian.org/wheezy/amd64/nvidia-xconfig/download

... to be installed by (not sure whether exactly in this order):
> dpkg -i glx-diversions_0.4.0~bpo70+1_amd64.deb
> dpkg -i glx-alternative-nvidia_0.4.0~bpo70+1_amd64.deb
> dpkg -i glx-alternative-mesa_0.4.0~bpo70+1_amd64.deb
> dpkg -i libvdpau1_0.4.1-7_amd64.deb
> dpkg -i nvidia-kernel-common_20120630+3_amd64.deb
> dpkg -i nvidia-xconfig_304.48-1_amd64.deb

> cp nvidia-graphics-drivers_${ORIGVERSION}.orig.tar.gz debdir/workdir
> cp nvidia-graphics-drivers_${DEBVERSION}.debian.tar.gz debdir/workdir
> cd debdir/workdir
> tar fvxz nvidia-graphics-drivers_${ORIGVERSION}.orig.tar.gz
> tar fvxz nvidia-graphics-drivers_${DEBVERSION}.debian.tar.gz
> mv nvidia-graphics-drivers_${ORIGVERSION}.orig.tar.gz ..
> mv nvidia-graphics-drivers-${ORIGVERSION}.orig/* .
> rmdir nvidia-graphics-drivers-${ORIGVERSION}.orig
> rm nvidia-graphics-drivers_${DEBVERSION}.debian.tar.gz
> dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot

Now the created DEBs can be installed by (that order works):
> dpkg -i libcuda1
> dpkg -i nvidia-alternative
> dpkg -i libgl1-nvidia-glx
> dpkg -i libnvcuvid1
> dpkg -i libnvidia-compiler
> dpkg -i libnvidia-encode1
> dpkg -i libnvidia-ifr1
> dpkg -i libnvidia-ml1
> dpkg -i nvidia-cuda-mps
> dpkg -i nvidia-detect
> dpkg -i nvidia-kernel-source
> dpkg -i nvidia-libopencl1
> dpkg -i nvidia-opencl-common
> dpkg -i nvidia-opencl-icd
> dpkg -i nvidia-smi
> dpkg -i nvidia-vdpau-driver
> dpkg -i xserver-xorg-video-nvidia
> dpkg -i nvidia-kernel-dkms
> dpkg -i nvidia-driver
> dpkg -i nvidia-glx

In the end:
> nvidia-xconfig
> shutdown -r now

Thanks for the help, again.

Cheers, Nick


2013/11/26 Nick Rudnick 

> Dear all,
>
> how to build Debian source packages,
> e.g. nvidia-graphics-drivers_331.20-1.debian.tar.gz (
> http://packages.debian.org/source/experimental/nvidia-graphics-drivers)??
> It seems different to common DEB as well as tarballs with configure/make.
>
> Even a search term would help, as trying with Google/Wikipedia/Debian.org
> wasn't too lucky yet.
>
> Thanks in advance and cheers, Nick
>


Need help recovering from 'experiment' in firefox

2013-12-01 Thread Paul E Condon
I was trying different preference settings in firefox per the long
rookie's query thread. I managed to get my firefox into a condition
where the specified start page in preferences is 'about:blank' but the
actual start page is 'New Tab'. I can change the text in the 'Home
Page:' text box but changing it has no effect on actual start page,
which remains 'New Tab'. And I cannot open the 'about:blank' page
manually. I have all my bookmarkes sites and can use firefox to access
the sites I want, but ---

I know I have used 'about:blank' in the past when I had other problems
with firefox and I was told to go to 'about:blank' and tweek something
to get things working again. Now I need suggestions about what to
change, or remove, in ~/.mozilla to bring back 'about:blank', because
I want it ready and waiting for those rare occasions. 

Of course, I would also like to avoid introducing new damage into my
set-up.

TIA

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Re: Need help recovering from 'experiment' in firefox

2013-12-01 Thread Brad Rogers
On Sun, 1 Dec 2013 11:32:29 -0700
Paul E Condon  wrote:

Hello Paul,

>rookie's query thread. I managed to get my firefox into a condition
>where the specified start page in preferences is 'about:blank' but the
>actual start page is 'New Tab'. I can change the text in the 'Home

Here, I can't specify a start page in that way (i.e. typing it in), but
only from a drop down list, the choices being "Show my home page",
"Show a blank page" and "Show my windows and tabs from last time".  I
*can* however, specify the home page (in my case, about:blank).  When
about:blank is the page being shown, the tab is labelled "New Tab", BTW.

HTH.

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Re: A rookie's query: Want to about Debian and the related

2013-12-01 Thread Paul E Condon
On 20131201_102725, Paul E Condon wrote:
> On 20131201_133458, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> > On Sun, 2013-12-01 at 13:29 +0100, Linux-Fan wrote:
> > > IIRC the start page is integrated in Firefox as "about:home" (at least
> > > with newer versions) so nothing is loaded from the Google servers as
> > > long as you do not enter any search term and press Enter.
> > 
> > Without reading the code I'll test it soon. We only need to go off-line,
> > move the config and restart Firefox.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> I just finished a simple test of this issue. My test ended with my 'start' 
> page
> being blank and the tab for it containing the text, 'New Tab'. And can't 
> change
> it --- like I've discovered a bug. More after a reboot...

see new thread started by me



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Re: apparently they somehow have their adler32 cake as part of Debian Linux ...

2013-12-01 Thread Albretch Mueller
> Unless it is implemented in a separate library or utility you will have to 
> look at rsync's or zlib's code to see how it is implemented.
~
 Well, since that hashing algorithm is logically independent and it
used in many algorithms including rsync and zlib used extensively, I
thought it would be consolidated as a library itself
~
 Some of you may repeat to me again that this is not a Linux forum
;-), but I don't think this question is off topic since what makes
most Linux distros differ is the packaging:
~
 Do you know of any code correlation analysis in Linux, preferably,
based on some measurable metrics?
~
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Re: Need help recovering from 'experiment' in firefox [SOLVED]

2013-12-01 Thread Paul E Condon
On 20131201_190904, Brad Rogers wrote:
> On Sun, 1 Dec 2013 11:32:29 -0700
> Paul E Condon  wrote:
> 
> Hello Paul,
> 
> >rookie's query thread. I managed to get my firefox into a condition
> >where the specified start page in preferences is 'about:blank' but the
> >actual start page is 'New Tab'. I can change the text in the 'Home
> 
> Here, I can't specify a start page in that way (i.e. typing it in), but
> only from a drop down list, the choices being "Show my home page",
> "Show a blank page" and "Show my windows and tabs from last time".  I
> *can* however, specify the home page (in my case, about:blank).  When
> about:blank is the page being shown, the tab is labelled "New Tab", BTW.
> 
> HTH.

Thanks. I distinctly remember typing into that text box, but that was from
long ago. Now is as you say. Problem gone, or maybe was always a figment
of imagination and never really existed. 


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Re: Re: No Video

2013-12-01 Thread erosenberg
 

- Original Message -
From: Hudson Flavio Meneses Lacerda 
To:"Andrei POPESCU" 
Cc:
Sent:Fri, 29 Nov 2013 17:54:49 -0200
Subject:Re: Re: No Video

 Andrei POPESCU wrote:
 > On Vi, 29 nov 13, 12:41:12, erosenb...@hygeiabiomedical.com [1]
wrote:
 >>
 >> Andrei -Sorry for the problem. If it is allowed, I can attach
large
 >> files. What is the policy of the list?TIAEthan
 > 
 > 38kB is not very large and as you can see the filters let it
through.
 > 
 > [snip Xorg.0.log] [2]
 > 
 > I can't spot anything wrong in your log.
 > 
 > Kind regards,
 > Andrei

 I had recently video problems (frozen screen). The problems were
 resolved just by running 'videoconfig' script from Musix/Knoppix. It
 generated a proper /etc/X11/xorg.conf [3] .

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Hudsoin -
I can't find the files to which you refer on the CD.Can you please
help further.TIA
Ethan


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[2] http://sitemail.hostway.com/http:
[3] http://xorg.conf