Re: How to use the debian installation iso for installing packages using aptitude

2013-08-15 Thread David
On 15 August 2013 14:14, Anubhav Yadav  wrote:
> It's working nicely (atleast for the first DVD). Now since I have added the
> entry in the fstab file, will it get auto mounted on startup?

You could test this by unmounting it and then run 'mount -a'


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Re: need help on install android development environment

2013-08-15 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2013-08-15 at 09:05 +0800, Long Wind wrote:
> does wheezy meet requirement below?
> 
> GNU C Library (glibc) 2.7 or later is required.
> 
> does wheezy have Eclipse?

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=debian+wheezy+glibc -> glibc-2.13-1 
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=debian+wheezy+eclipse -> eclipse (3.8.0~rc4-1)





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Login screen for Wheezy/Xfce

2013-08-15 Thread Klaus Jantzen

Hi,

where do I specify the content of the login screen:

-  automatically using Xfce
-  automatic login a user without password

Thanks in advance.

K.D.J.


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Re: How to use the debian installation iso for installing packages using aptitude

2013-08-15 Thread Anubhav Yadav
mount -a isn't mounting /media/dvd1-mountpoint


Re: Login screen for Wheezy/Xfce

2013-08-15 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2013-08-15 at 10:08 +0200, Klaus Jantzen wrote:
> where do I specify the content of the login screen:
> 
> -  automatically using Xfce
> -  automatic login a user without password

What display manager and what greeter for the display manager do you
use?

If you've got only one user, you could remove the display manager and
it's greeter, to start the session by ~/.xinitrc.

Assumed you're using GDM, than edit /etc/gdm3/daemon.conf
https://wiki.debian.org/GDM .

Doesn't GDM3 automatically use the last used DE by default?
However, there are also different ways to tell the display manager what
sessions should be available.

You e.g. could delete entries in /usr/share/xsessions/ or ~/.xinitrc and
only keep Xfce. It depends to the used display manager, greeter, way to
start this stuff ;). I assume that you aren't using the Debian default,
or that you are using the default, but don't like to read Debian Wikis
yourself ;).

http://www.google.de/#bav=on.2,or.r_qf.&fp=1f63dbad6a6becf2&q=debain+wiki+gdm

Too funny the first hits I got are "GDM - Debian Wiki" and "LightDM - Debian 
Wiki".

Regards,
Ralf


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Re: Login screen for Wheezy/Xfce

2013-08-15 Thread Ralf Mardorf
I wrote:
> http://www.google.de/#bav=on.2,or.r_qf.&fp=1f63dbad6a6becf2&q=debain+wiki+gdm
> 
> Too funny the first hits I got are "GDM - Debian Wiki" and "LightDM -
> Debian Wiki".

Not surprising, it should be this link:

http://www.google.de/#bav=on.2,or.r_qf.&cad=b&fp=1f63dbad6a6becf2&q=debain+wiki





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iPod integration

2013-08-15 Thread Klaus

Hello List

How do people here integrate their portable music player with their
Debian box? My daughter "inherited" a 2005-vintage iPod Shuffle, a
rather dumb device that holds one playlist, media files in a m4a
container, and it uses I believe mp3 encoding.

I've ripped all my CDs, to make them locally available on my headless
fileserver. The files are encode in flac, and are accessible through
either miniDLNA, a upnp server, or directly via NFS. The latter I use
to play the music via MPD (music player daemon), piped through a USB
digital-to-analog converter to my stereo (this is essentially a direct
replacement for my CD player), all controlled via Gnome Music Player
Client.

Now, my question is: how do I connect to my music with something like
Rhythmbox , VLC etc., to be able to compile a playlist, convert (on
the fly?) the flac files to mp3, and upload them onto the iPod?
Various bits of this process I can do, but haven't figured out a way
to do it all.

There are quite a few old recipes on the 'net, some involving
GNUpod. Is there anything new, more integrated?

Thanks in advance,

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ksh i386 ##

2013-08-15 Thread Phi Debian
Hi All,

On a fresh debian install (well 3.2.0-4-686-pae) I installed the ksh package.

Typing ## at promt exit the shell immediatly.

On x86_64 it doesn't do that.

Any idea or suggestion?

Cheers,
Phi


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information about a package

2013-08-15 Thread David Roguin
Hi,

Is there a way to know which package installed X package or if X package
was installed manually?

Thanks!

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Re: information about a package

2013-08-15 Thread Ralf Mardorf

On Thu, 2013-08-15 at 09:17 -0300, David Roguin wrote:
> Is there a way to know which package installed X package or if X
> package was installed manually?

"whatdepends pkg(s)
Shows a listing of what depends on a package." -
http://linux.die.net/man/8/apt-cache

So you can't see what package exactly installed it, but at least all
packages who need it. It doesn't show if something you e.g. installed by
"make install" should need it too.



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Re: Quoting Style Re: Installing mysqldump

2013-08-15 Thread Lisi Reisz
Sorry, Ethan.  I don't normally keep doing this. :-(
Sent to list where it should have been in the first place.

On Wednesday 14 August 2013 17:35:07 Ethan Rosenberg, PhD wrote:
> Dear List -
>
> I appreciate your CONSTRUCTIVE criticism.  I surely do not wish to have
> my posts unanswered.
>
> Introduction -
>
> Industrial standard I think is, top quoting and styled email. This is
> the way my Thunderbird is set.  Mail list requirements are the reverse
> as I well know.  Therefore, I have to adjust Thunderbird to these
> requirements.
>
> To get unstyled, shift+write.
>
> Start email. Replying, unstyled, requires the send again option
> [CTRL+E]. The material above my reply is blue.
>
> Here is a sample email trail. Points to be noted are marked as follows

Ouch!  No!!!  Klaus explained to you how to do it at 11:12:51 today.  *Please* 
read, mark, learn and  inwardly digest.  This is *awful.*  Klaus has just 
tried again to tell you, at 22:22:08.  Please read it.  I repeat, this is 
completely unreadable.  (Literally.  I gave up trying to read it.)   If 
Icedove were set up correctly, you would also stop breaking threads.

You *must* be able to see that everyone else does it differently from you.  
Just set your email client up correctly.  You don't need to do anything else, 
except trim appropriately.  My email client, KMail 1.9.10, also has a setting 
for telling it if a folder contains a mailing list.  Icedove/Thunderbird may 
have something similar.

Lisi

> < I separate emails with =
> ***
> SAMPLE EMAIL TRAIL.
>
> Dear List -
>
> I have a problem.
>
> TIA
>
> Ethan
>
> reply <<
>
> Dear List -
>
> I have a two problems, #1 and #2
>
> TIA
>
> Ethan
>
> Poster1
>
> You shouild try A, B and C.
>
> HTH.
>
> Poster1
>
> note I quote the reply(s) if they are relevant.<<<
> reply <<<
>
>
> Dear List -
>
> I have a problem.
>
> TIA
>
> Ethan
>
> Poster1
>
> You shouild try A, B and C.
>
> HTH.
>
> Poster1
> ===
> Poster1 -
>
> Thanks.
>
> A. Tried, no luck
> B. Fixed #1 only
> C  Fixed #2 only
>
> TIA
>
> Ethan
> ===
> reply
> 
>
> You shouild try A, B and C.
> A. Tried, no luck
> B. Fixed #1 only
> C  Fixed #2 only
>
> Poster3-
>
> Show us logx, logy, and Logz
>
> HTH
>
> Poster3
>
> reply<
>
> Poster3 -
>
> Thanks.
>
> 
>
> Show us logx, logy, and Logz
>
> 
>
> logx
>
> 
> bla, bla bla
> 
>
> logy
>
> /
> bla, ouch, bla
> /
>
> logz
>
> //
> oluch, bla, ouch.
> 
>
> TIA
>
> Ethan
>
> **
>
> End of sample email trail <<<
>
> Please edit the above to the proper form.
>
> Ethan
> 
> PS:
>
> Ralf -
>
> http://www.twitlonger.com/show/9rlesb
>
> PHENOMENAL


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Re: Quoting Style Re: Installing mysqldump

2013-08-15 Thread Eduardo M KALINOWSKI

On Qui, 15 Ago 2013, Lisi Reisz wrote:

Just set your email client up correctly.  You don't need to do anything else,
except trim appropriately.


In the case of Icedove/Thunderbird, you don't even need to set  
anything[0]. By default it does correct quoting, you just have to  
press "Reply to list" (which is the default in the case of mailing  
lists), trim and add your comments. To get the weird emails Ethan  
sends, he must have (mis)configured something to different values than  
the default.


[0] Well, perhaps one needs to configure it to not send HTML, as it's  
somewhat too eager to use HTML. But this is not a problem with Ethan's  
mails.


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Re: Login screen for Wheezy/Xfce

2013-08-15 Thread Andreas Rönnquist
On Thu, 15 Aug 2013 10:08:41 +0200,
Klaus Jantzen wrote:

>Hi,
>
>where do I specify the content of the login screen:
>
>-  automatically using Xfce
>-  automatic login a user without password
>

If you are using lightdm (which I guess you do, hasn't that been the
default in Debian for quite some time?), see its wiki-page:

https://wiki.debian.org/LightDM

As described there, I guess a 

dpkg-reconfigure lightdm

will make you able to select Xfce.

Also, the autologin options are described at that page.

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Re: Wheezy NetInstall problem - modules.builtin.bin 0k size

2013-08-15 Thread Curt
On 2013-08-14, RamShadow R  wrote:
>
> i try to install Wheezy with an netinstall USB Stick.
> Within the Installation i get ask for a CDROM but i have non.

Because it can find no network it defaults to a local install from
CDROM?

> After switching to a shell i can see that there is no Module for the Networ=
> k Card installed.

No module (driver) for the card in the running kernel?

> I have added the non free Firmware files to the USB Stick.=20
> I can see the Card with lspci

Well, I'm ignorant, but the firmware 'helps' the driver, doesn't it? If
there's no driver being loaded at all, the firmware can't do anything,
can it?

> if i try to load the module for the card (Realtek RTL8111/8168B)
> i get the Error :
>
> libkmod: kmod_lookup_alias_from_builtin_file: could not open builtin file '=
> /lib/modules/3.2.0-4-amd64/modules.builtin.bin'=20

That's the error, but what's the command?

kmod-modprobe /lib/modules/3.2.0-4-amd64/kernel/drivers/net/r8169.ko ??


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Re: information about a package

2013-08-15 Thread David
On 15 August 2013 22:17, David Roguin  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Is there a way to know which package installed X package

aptitude why 

> or if X package was installed manually?

aptitude show 


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Wheezy installer problem

2013-08-15 Thread Robert Holtzman
After installing Wheezy 7.0 twice on different machines w/ no problems I
can't get 7.1 to install in manual mode on my amd64 laptop. Everything is
fine until I get to the point of writing partition changes to the disk.
That's when I'm asked if I want to continue (yes) or return to the
partitioner. Write changes...yes...continue...yes...back to the partitioner. 
Endless loop. I've tried looking in the bug tracking site but so far
it's impenetrable to me. I'll keep trying.

Anyone else see this problem? I *seem* to remember an upgrade to the
installer.

Any pointers gratefully accepted.

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Re: iPod integration

2013-08-15 Thread André Nunes Batista
On Thu, 2013-08-15 at 10:45 +0100, Klaus wrote: 
> Hello List
> Now, my question is: how do I connect to my music with something like
> Rhythmbox , VLC etc., to be able to compile a playlist, convert (on
> the fly?) the flac files to mp3, and upload them onto the iPod?
> Various bits of this process I can do, but haven't figured out a way
> to do it all.
> 
> There are quite a few old recipes on the 'net, some involving
> GNUpod. Is there anything new, more integrated?
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> 
> -- 
> Klaus
> 
> 

Hallo Klaus!

I do not know the answer to your question, but would like to know as
well. If you find something, please, post here.

For now, I've been using forked-daapd to share media files over the lan
and jakpod to upload files to friends iGadgets.

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Re: How to use the debian installation iso for installing packages using aptitude

2013-08-15 Thread Curt
On 2013-08-15, Lisi Reisz  wrote:
> On Thursday 15 August 2013 05:14:34 Anubhav Yadav wrote:
>> It's working nicely (atleast for the first DVD). Now since I have added the
>> entry in the fstab file, will it get auto mounted on startup?
>
> Suck it and see?

What?

> Lisi
>
>


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Re: How to use the debian installation iso for installing packages using aptitude

2013-08-15 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Thursday 15 August 2013 16:56:45 Curt wrote:
> > Suck it and see?
>
> What?

If you want to know whether a lemon is sour, suck it and see.  I.e. try it 
out.  It is quite frequently used, but is a bit too colloquial for an 
international list. I apologise.

But simply rebooting would have given the answer to "will it get auto mounted 
on startup?" immediately, without bothering the list.  LMGTFY, but even 
simpler.

Lisi


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Re: How to use the debian installation iso for installing packages using aptitude

2013-08-15 Thread Anubhav Yadav
I got it, but I thought before that adding  entry to fstab and automounting
at boot are not related to each other.

I restarted but I had to mount all the three iso manually.

mount -a won't work too.

So I did suck it :-)


Re: The dreaded RTL8111/8168B, ethernet driver failure

2013-08-15 Thread oz
Hi,

maybe my workaround is helpful for someone. My Problems with Realtek
RTL8111/8168B on Debian 7.1 is gone after Upgrading to the wheezy-backports
kernel.

From:
linux-image-3.2.0-4-amd64, 3.2.46-1
to:
apt-get -t wheezy-backports install linux-image-3.9-0.bpo.1-amd64
firmware-realtek

Some details can be found here:
http://debianforum.de/forum/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=144234

Greetings





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Re: How to use the debian installation iso for installing packages using aptitude

2013-08-15 Thread Bob Proulx
Anubhav Yadav wrote:
> I got it, but I thought before that adding  entry to fstab and automounting
> at boot are not related to each other.

They are exactly related to each other.  The /etc/fstab file defines
what file systems are mounted at boot time.

> I restarted but I had to mount all the three iso manually.
> mount -a won't work too.
> So I did suck it :-)

Then something is wrong with the listings in your /etc/fstab file.
But previously I gave you a test for it and you said that worked.  So
the line must be syntactically correct and is mounting the right file
system.

Do you have "noauto" there?  That is the only thing that makes sense.
Remove it.  Look for a "noauto" option and remove it.

  $ man fstab
  ...
  noauto do not mount when "mount -a" is given (e.g., at boot time)
  ...

What options do you have?  For mounting an iso you probably only want
"loop" and "ro" and no other options.

Bob


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Re: Quoting Style Re: Installing mysqldump

2013-08-15 Thread Bob Proulx
Ethan Rosenberg, PhD wrote:
> Industrial standard I think is, top quoting and styled email.

Not on technical mailing lists!  The standard is conversational
quoting.  Here are some guides that I just now found after a quick
search.

  http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html
  http://email.about.com/cs/netiquettetips/qt/et090402.htm
  http://www.complang.tuwien.ac.at/anton/mail-news-errors.html
  http://lipas.uwasa.fi/~ts/http/quote.html
  http://www.holgermetzger.de/netscape/usenet.html
  http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

> This is the way my Thunderbird is set.  Mail list requirements are
> the reverse as I well know.  Therefore, I have to adjust Thunderbird
> to these requirements.

What version of Thunderbird are you using?  It is true that old
versions had some issues.  But if it is a recent version it should
"just work".

> To get unstyled, shift+write.
> 
> Start email. Replying, unstyled, requires the send again option
> [CTRL+E].

That is the root cause of the broken mail thread problems.  By
re-sending a previous message you are re-sending the previous headers
too.  This is what is causing threading to be so confused.  Now I
understand the previous thread breakage.

Please do not re-send previous messages after editing them.  Instead
simply list-reply to them.  I am pretty-sure that Thunderbird will
reply to the list appropriately.  But regardless you need to allow
Thunderbird to set up the threading properly.  Just do the normal
thing and follow-up and let Thunderbird do the right thing.

> The material above my reply is blue.

Blue?  You mean as in html email?  Colors will be lost entirely when
reading the mail as plain text.  Think about people using screen
readers.  Plain text is the standard.  I am one of many reading the
plain text content and any html color will be invisible to me.  Even
if I were reading the html I would be rendering it into a terminal and
so still would not see any colors.  And also html email is listed
specifically on the list of things not to send to the mailing list.

  http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/#codeofconduct

Bob


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Re: Login screen for Wheezy/Xfce

2013-08-15 Thread Bob Proulx
Klaus Jantzen wrote:
> where do I specify the content of the login screen:
> -  automatically using Xfce
> -  automatic login a user without password

As you can tell by the questions the answer depends upon which
graphical login manager (xdm, x display manager) you are running.

  gdm
  gdm3
  kdm
  ldm
  lightdm
  xdm

If you tell us which you are using then someone can probably say how
to set up autologin.  But for example while gdm worked okay this
changed and gdm3 I don't think it has a kiosk mode.

Let me assume or recommend lightdm.  Edit /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf
and set autologin-user in the SeatDefaults section:

  [SeatDefaults]
  autologin-user=yourusernamehere

Bob


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Re: ksh i386 ##

2013-08-15 Thread Bob Proulx
Phi Debian wrote:
> On a fresh debian install (well 3.2.0-4-686-pae) I installed the ksh package.
> 
> Typing ## at promt exit the shell immediatly.

Confirmed.  Good report.  It is a program bug.

  $ ulimit -c unlimited
  $ ksh
  $ #Segmentation fault
  $ ls -ldog core
  -rw--- 1 393216 Aug 15 17:55 core

> On x86_64 it doesn't do that.

Looks like a memory corruption bug.  Different architectures will have
different memory chunks in different places.  It just happens not to
memory fault on amd64 while it does on 686.  Other architectures will
probably do other random things.  Memory stomps are hard to predict.

Definitely a bug.  Please file a bug report.

Bob


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Re: Wheezy installer problem

2013-08-15 Thread Bob Proulx
Robert Holtzman wrote:
> After installing Wheezy 7.0 twice on different machines w/ no problems I
> can't get 7.1 to install in manual mode on my amd64 laptop. Everything is
> fine until I get to the point of writing partition changes to the disk.
> That's when I'm asked if I want to continue (yes) or return to the
> partitioner. Write changes...yes...continue...yes...back to the partitioner. 
> Endless loop. I've tried looking in the bug tracking site but so far
> it's impenetrable to me. I'll keep trying.

Ouch!  No idea.

> Anyone else see this problem? I *seem* to remember an upgrade to the
> installer.
> 
> Any pointers gratefully accepted.

Press Alt-F4 to look at the installer log screen.  Are there any clues
visible on that screen?

Perhaps it has an error writing the partition table and therefore
returns to the point before then?

Bob


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Re: last, lastlog, and desktop sessions

2013-08-15 Thread Joel Rees
On Sat, Aug 10, 2013 at 3:08 AM, Bob Proulx  wrote:

> Joel Rees wrote:
> > Joel Rees wrote:
> > > I've never been clear about the last command. My memory is that it
> > > recorded logins to the desktop as well as to ttyn devices.
>
> To be pedantic the "last" command isn't recording anything.  It is
> only reporting what has already been recorded.
>

Yeah, that has become clear as I dig into this.


> > > Today, I'm checking my logs, and I don't see any record of logins
> > > to the desktop unless the user also started a shell in a virtual
> > > terminal.
>
> That would be due to your xdm, gdm, gdm3, lightdm, kdm or other
> graphical login manager.


I recently switched from gdm or gdm3 (don't remember which) to lightdm.


>  It is responsible for recording desktop
> logins.  Some do.  Some do not.  If they don't then I think that is a
> bug.  But people who know about last and logins are becoming fewer
> every day and so this part of the system has atrophied.
>

erk.


> > > Has this changed recently? I'm I imagining things? Is there some
> setting
> > > that changes this, that might have changed when I upgraded from
> squeeze to
> > > wheezy?
>
> Try different graphical login managers and compare them.
>
> > Okay, I finally decided to log out of my X11 session on my netbook
> (Fedora)
> > and found that my memory was wrong.
> >
> > last does not report logins to X11 desktop sessions.
>
> What graphical login manager are you using?  As I recall lightdm for
> example does not record this information.  I am pretty sure I saw that
> there was a bug report on it.  Ah...  Here it is:
>
>   http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=648604
>

Oh! Lookie there!

The relevant line from the bug report:

> In order to have lightdm write to the last log, you have to enable the
> pam_lastlog.so module in /etc/pam.d/lightdm with:
>
> session optional pam_lastlog.so

(I think I need to start getting familiar with the debian bug reporting
 processes and lists.)

Anyway, I added that line to /etc/lightdm and /etc/lightdm-autologin,
at the end, right before the @include common-password line, and I'm
getting login logs again. who works again, etc.

Thanks, Bob.


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Re: How to use the debian installation iso for installing packages using aptitude

2013-08-15 Thread Anubhav Yadav
On 8/16/13, Bob Proulx  wrote:
> Anubhav Yadav wrote:
>> I got it, but I thought before that adding  entry to fstab and
>> automounting
>> at boot are not related to each other.
>
> They are exactly related to each other.  The /etc/fstab file defines
> what file systems are mounted at boot time.
>
>> I restarted but I had to mount all the three iso manually.
>> mount -a won't work too.
>> So I did suck it :-)
>
> Then something is wrong with the listings in your /etc/fstab file.
> But previously I gave you a test for it and you said that worked.  So
> the line must be syntactically correct and is mounting the right file
> system.
>
> Do you have "noauto" there?  That is the only thing that makes sense.
> Remove it.  Look for a "noauto" option and remove it.
>
>   $ man fstab
>   ...
>   noauto do not mount when "mount -a" is given (e.g., at boot time)
>   ...

yes it is noauto
>
> What options do you have?  For mounting an iso you probably only want
> "loop" and "ro" and no other options.

This is what I have in my fstab
/home/neo1691/iso-files/debian-7.1.0-amd64-DVD-1.iso
/media/dvd1-mountpoint iso9660 loop,ro,user,noauto 00
>
> Bob
>

also one more thing, when I try to install any package, it says the
packages cannot be authenticated, is that fine?

for eg

root@Innovator:/home/neo1691# apt-get install audacity
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
The following extra packages will be installed:
  audacity-data libflac++6 libid3tag0 libportsmf0 libsbsms10
libvamp-hostsdk3 libwxbase2.8-0 libwxgtk2.8-0
Suggested packages:
  ladspa-plugin libgnomeprintui2.2-0
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  audacity audacity-data libflac++6 libid3tag0 libportsmf0 libsbsms10
libvamp-hostsdk3 libwxbase2.8-0 libwxgtk2.8-0
0 upgraded, 9 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 0 B/9,820 kB of archives.
After this operation, 28.7 MB of additional disk space will be used.
Do you want to continue [Y/n]? Y
WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!
  libflac++6 libsbsms10 libwxbase2.8-0 libwxgtk2.8-0 audacity-data
libid3tag0 libportsmf0 libvamp-hostsdk3 audacity
Install these packages without verification [y/N]?



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Building Icedove from git

2013-08-15 Thread Ralf Mardorf
Hi :)

I try to build Icedove for Arch Linux x86_64, but autoconf fails with

mozilla/build/autoconf/acwinpaths.m4:10: error: defn: undefined
macro: AC_OUTPUT_FILES
mozilla/build/autoconf/acwinpaths.m4:10: the top level
autom4te: /usr/bin/m4 failed with exit status: 1

The version of Debian Sid's and Arch's autoconf from their repositories
are equal, autoconf 2.69.

$ git log --pretty=format:"%h" | head -1
7fa36d6

Any hints are welcome. I know that there is Thunderbird available for
Arch, but I won't use Thunderbird, I even won't use Icedove, I just want
to test something and want to get Icedove for Arch, instead of rebooting
to Debian or installing it to Vbox, just to make some tests.

Regards,
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Re: your thoughts: special post for Debian birthday

2013-08-15 Thread Ana Guerrero Lopez
On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 11:57:42AM +0200, Ana Guerrero Lopez wrote:
> Dear users and contributors,
> 
> We would like publishing a special post in bits.d.o for the anniversary of
> Debian.  The idea is publishing anonymous quotes from Debian users and 
> developers about what Debian means for you. 

This is the post:

http://bits.debian.org/2013/08/20-birthday-debian.html

Thanks everybody!

Ana


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Re: your thoughts: special post for Debian birthday

2013-08-15 Thread Ralf Mardorf
Happy birthday Debian!

On Fri, 2013-08-16 at 04:52 +0200, Ana Guerrero Lopez wrote:
> http://bits.debian.org/2013/08/20-birthday-debian.html

Some quotes sound like Debian should be sold like an assurance,
political party or the best washing powder ever, so here are my 2 cents:

One of the positive aspects of Debian is, that a default install is
newbie friendly, but still relatively close to the KISS principle,
perhaps the reason that many Distros are based on Debian. Strange, that
a full KISS principle often is harder for newbies. Isn't it?

I wish the Debian project all the best and additional 20+ years,
Ralf


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UPS monitoring with nut

2013-08-15 Thread Ash Narayanan
I am looking to set up nut (version 2.6.4-2.3) to monitor my ups in
Wheezy but can't seem to find any relevant guides/tutorials. I've
searched through several guides online (including the one pointed to
by http://www.networkupstools.org/documentation.html). For example,
whatever I read seems to suggest existence of these files:
/etc/default/nut
/etc/init.d/nut

My installation does not contain either of those files. On the other
hand, I have:
/etc/init.d/nut-client
/etc/init.d/nut-sever

Also, everything I read seems to require changes to /etc/nut/upsd.conf
with something along the lines of:
ACL all 0.0.0.0/0
ACL localhost 127.0.0.1/32

My /etc/nut/upsd.conf file only seems to contain LISTEN statements and
reading through some forums, it seems that ACL statements are obsolete
in versions after 2.2.

I can't seem to find any up to date guides. Are there any? Or is one
allowed to upload a package to Debian without any instructions on how
to use it?

A bit of information regarding the setup I'm after:
One Wheezy server connected to UPS via usb (master)
One Wheezy server connected to the first server via ethernet (slave)
Both servers being supplied power by the UPS


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Re: UPS monitoring with nut

2013-08-15 Thread Gregory Nowak
On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 01:15:51PM +0930, Ash Narayanan wrote:
> I am looking to set up nut (version 2.6.4-2.3) to monitor my ups in
> Wheezy but can't seem to find any relevant guides/tutorials. I've
> searched through several guides online (including the one pointed to
> by http://www.networkupstools.org/documentation.html). For example,
> whatever I read seems to suggest existence of these files:
> /etc/default/nut
> /etc/init.d/nut
> 
> My installation does not contain either of those files. On the other
> hand, I have:
> /etc/init.d/nut-client
> /etc/init.d/nut-sever
> 
> Also, everything I read seems to require changes to /etc/nut/upsd.conf
> with something along the lines of:
> ACL all 0.0.0.0/0
> ACL localhost 127.0.0.1/32
> 
> My /etc/nut/upsd.conf file only seems to contain LISTEN statements and
> reading through some forums, it seems that ACL statements are obsolete
> in versions after 2.2.
> 
> I can't seem to find any up to date guides. Are there any? Or is one
> allowed to upload a package to Debian without any instructions on how
> to use it?
> 
> A bit of information regarding the setup I'm after:
> One Wheezy server connected to UPS via usb (master)
> One Wheezy server connected to the first server via ethernet (slave)
> Both servers being supplied power by the UPS

I unfortunately don't use nut, so can't help you with that particular
package. However, you might want to check out apcupsd, and see if it
supports talking to your UPS. I have an APC UPS here connected to a
squeeze server. I do though manually check it once in a while from a
wheezy machine over the network using apcaccess to do so. HTH maybe.

Greg


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Re: How to use the debian installation iso for installing packages using aptitude

2013-08-15 Thread Bob Proulx
Anubhav Yadav wrote:
> Bob Proulx wrote:
> > Do you have "noauto" there?  That is the only thing that makes sense.
> > Remove it.  Look for a "noauto" option and remove it.
>
> yes it is noauto
>
> > What options do you have?  For mounting an iso you probably only want
> > "loop" and "ro" and no other options.
> 
> This is what I have in my fstab
> /home/neo1691/iso-files/debian-7.1.0-amd64-DVD-1.iso
> /media/dvd1-mountpoint iso9660 loop,ro,user,noauto 0  0

Remove the user and noauto options and then it should mount with -a
and at boot time.

> also one more thing, when I try to install any package, it says the
> packages cannot be authenticated, is that fine?

When you upgraded to Wheezy did you not upgrade debian-archive-keyring?
That package contains the key.  Verify that it is up to date.  Upgrade
it if needed.  Then run apt-get update again.

  $ apt-cache policy debian-archive-keyring
  debian-archive-keyring:
Installed: 2012.4
Candidate: 2012.4
Version table:
   *** 2012.4 0
  500 http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ wheezy/main i386 Packages
  100 /var/lib/dpkg/status

Upgrade it if needed.  Find the deb file in your mounted iso image.

  # find /media/dvd-mountpoint1 -name 'debian-archive-keyring_*_all.deb'
  
/media/dvd-mountpoint1/pool/main/d/debian-archive-keyring/debian-archive-keyring_2012.4_all.deb

Install it by that path.

  # dpkg -i 
/media/dvd-mountpoint1/pool/main/d/debian-archive-keyring/debian-archive-keyring_2012.4_all.deb

Then update again to clear the error.

  # apt-get update

After that you should not be getting that authentication error again.
Because the keyring will be installed authorizing them.

Bob


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Re: RFE: moving networking out of the kernel and into to user land ...

2013-08-15 Thread Chris Bannister
On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 07:14:32AM -0500, John Hasler wrote:
> Chris Bannister writes:
> > Since I expect that anything that affects the kernel itself is going
> > to be handled by the Linux kernel developers, you might want to post
> > the above questions on the linux-kernel mailing list.
> 
> Implementing networking outside the kernel does not affect the kernel.
> Just do it.  If you do it well and others agree that it's the right
> approach it will soon take over.  

I didn't write that! I just mentioned the possibility of being cursed
at.

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Formatted Disk

2013-08-15 Thread Ethan Rosenberg, PhD

Dear List -

I have a usb drive, with data on it, that I [stupidly!!] tried to name 
using fdisk.  Of course, it erased the data.  I have not used the drive 
since then.  I think there is a method to "unformat" a drive. What shall 
I do now?


TIA

Ethan


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Re: need help on install android development environment

2013-08-15 Thread Steve Witt

On Thu, 15 Aug 2013, Long Wind wrote:


Thanks for your detailed help!
I will try it without Eclipse.


I hope I didn't sound like I was recommending that you try to do Android 
software development without using eclipse. What I intended to say was 
that you could get eclipse either by installing the wheezy eclipse package 
or by installing eclipse from , which will be a 
little more up to date. While it is possible to do software development of 
Android applications without eclipse, it is not where I would recommend 
that you start. It would be much easier to get started doing it within 
eclipse.




PS: Your email address looks pretty distinguished to me.



Well thanks, but don't be too impressed. It is just a mail reflector 
service that the IEEE provides to members. Most people think it is some 
sort of scream or something.



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Re: UPS monitoring with nut

2013-08-15 Thread Ash Narayanan
> I unfortunately don't use nut, so can't help you with that particular
> package. However, you might want to check out apcupsd, and see if it
> supports talking to your UPS. I have an APC UPS here connected to a
> squeeze server. I do though manually check it once in a while from a
> wheezy machine over the network using apcaccess to do so. HTH maybe.
>
> Greg

Thanks Greg. Unfortunately I don't use a APC ups, so that's not an
option for me, which is shame since apcupsd seems so much simpler and
intuitive to set up.


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Timing Shorewall's startup

2013-08-15 Thread Johann Spies
My home network server is also the gateway to the internet.

I have configured /etc/default/shorewall to wait for the ppp-interface
(adsl) before it starts.

Sometimes the server boots and shorewall does not run at all.

It seems that the wait_interface="ppp0" setting in /etc/default/shorewall
does not do the job properly.

How can I ensure that shorewall starts properly.  When I am at home I can
correct this but sometime my other family members wants to use the
internet, switch on the server and when shorewall is not running properly,
they cannot access the internet.

Regards
Johann

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