Re: Alsa sound errors
2013/6/6 Marc Shapiro > >> So, do I create the file and add the line: > > ipc_gid_audio > > or > > ipc_gid_audio TRUE > > or > > something else? I guess you are running pulseaudio so you can fix your error at global level or per user level. Per user level: - copy /usr/share/alsa/alsa.conf.d/99-pulseaudio-default.conf.example in each user dir - rename it to .asoundrc - add this line 'ipc_key_add_uid yes' after the lines 'type pulse' - change ownership according to the user home dir you are working with. - log out and log back again should be enough... but if not, restart pulseaudio && alsa-utils, reboot as last choice It should work. BEWARE I do not use pulseaudio at all, I use alsa and jackd instead with this setup. References: http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Asoundrc Regards /raffaele
Re: How to consistently install a set of packages?
On 06/06/2013, James Richardson wrote: > David wrote: [...] >> Because some packages create users and groups, I want to be sure that >> these packages are installed in the same sequence on every PC so that >> numeric uid & gid in /etc/passwd and /etc/group end up the same on all >> PCs. This will make admin easier when keeping the shared data in sync >> if the numeric uid and gid are the same in every OS. > The only thing I can suggest (and I am by no means an expert), is to > create the users/groups before installing the packages. You can use dpkg > --get/--set-selections to set the selection state of the packages, but > as this doesn't actually install anything, I would doubt it would give > apt-get/aptitude any hints about ordering, but if the user/groups > existed before hand it should still be ok. Hi James Thank you for your thoughts. I appreciate your lateral thinking which is appealing. But I wonder how a package install process would make the decision to take over a pre-existing user or group? For example, if I created user=approx and then installed the approx package which wants to run as user=approx, how thoroughly would its installer script assess if the pre-existing user=approx is free for its use? If there already was some other unrelated user=approx, it would be undesirable for the approx package to assimilate that user. And would each package that wants to do similar behave consistently? Any thoughts on that? My guess would be that a package install would probably abort if the user or group it wanted was already in use. Or perhaps the installer will ask what to do? I'd prefer if it would run unattended. I can't set up a test immediately, but if necessary I can test this later in the week. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAMPXz=rbv+Rmkjbs_D9gu76=ehuwdezpqoc_v4_guqioe9w...@mail.gmail.com
Re: boot fails on wheezy (SOLVED)
On Wed, 5 Jun 2013, Bob Proulx wrote: You are correct. The BIOS has an ordering. The OS has an ordering. They are separate software and will each do their own thing. I have often had problems with the BIOS disk ordering being different form the OS disk ordering. my concern is not disk ordering: as already said by several people, using UUID makes you independant of any disc ordering. It is to determine what can produce a change in the BIOS settings, apart from a power failure. best regards, -- Pierre Frenkiel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/alpine.deb.2.02.1306061042120.32...@pfr2.frenkiel-hure.net
RE: Email suggestions
Hi, >>> sure they create archive mail folders AND move the mail to those >>> folders once the mail is read you will end up with mail on the >>> server. >> >> Yes, and that's what concerns me. I don't know exactly how my users >> manage their inboxes. If they're as bad as I am, the required space >> can easily get out of hand :) >> > You could enforce a quota policy. Dovecot implements it, and it looks quite > easy to setup: > http://wiki2.dovecot.org/Quota I do not know if dovecot can do it but this is one place where the Exchange server has a good way of dealing with it. It has 2 qouta levels. The first will prevent you from sending any more mails until you clean up your mailbox but it will still allow you to receive mail. So you will not lose any mail. The second level will also stop receiving mails, which is usually there to make sure that there IS a limit to the mailbox, at work we have it set at double the first limit. Exchange (which we use at work) is not my favorite mailserver in many cases but this is one feature that I really like. Bonno Bloksma -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/89d1798a7351d040b4e74e0a043c69d7395d7...@einexch-01.tio.nl
Re: How to consistently install a set of packages?
On Thu, 6 Jun 2013 17:30:24 +1000 David wrote: > On 06/06/2013, James Richardson wrote: > > David wrote: > > [...] > > >> Because some packages create users and groups, I want to be sure > >> that these packages are installed in the same sequence on every PC > >> so that numeric uid & gid in /etc/passwd and /etc/group end up the > >> same on all PCs. This will make admin easier when keeping the > >> shared data in sync if the numeric uid and gid are the same in > >> every OS. > > > The only thing I can suggest (and I am by no means an expert), is to > > create the users/groups before installing the packages. You can use > > dpkg --get/--set-selections to set the selection state of the > > packages, but as this doesn't actually install anything, I would > > doubt it would give apt-get/aptitude any hints about ordering, but > > if the user/groups existed before hand it should still be ok. > > Hi James > > Thank you for your thoughts. I appreciate your lateral thinking which > is appealing. But I wonder how a package install process would make > the decision to take over a pre-existing user or group? > > For example, if I created user=approx and then installed the approx > package which wants to run as user=approx, how thoroughly would its > installer script assess if the pre-existing user=approx is free for > its use? If there already was some other unrelated user=approx, it > would be undesirable for the approx package to assimilate that user. > > And would each package that wants to do similar behave consistently? > > Any thoughts on that? > > My guess would be that a package install would probably abort if the > user or group it wanted was already in use. Or perhaps the installer > will ask what to do? I'd prefer if it would run unattended. I can't > set up a test immediately, but if necessary I can test this later in > the week. > > Hi, I did some searching re UIDs and GIDs, and it appears that the adduser.conf file can be used to manage this behavior. In addition if you look at the manpage of adduser the option "--uid" will allow you to choose the user's ID. And addgroup has a similar option. So, perhaps all you need is a common script that does it for you. Please do refer to the policy manual re the allocation policy for Debian. http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-opersys.html#s9.2 HTH, K. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130606163527.438824c4.listskail...@gmail.com
Re: boot fails on wheezy
On Tue, 4 Jun 2013 09:17:44 +0300 Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Ma, 04 iun 13, 07:04:29, Pierre Frenkiel wrote: > > After a problem with a ligthscribe dvd, I had to reboot my PC, > > After that, impossible to boot. Even the "grub loading" message is > > absent.Booting with the wheezy install cd in rescue mode, I tried > > almost all the known > > What about the option to reinstall the bootloader? > > Kind regards, > Andrei Hi, You could try using this tool that’ll help you fix most of your boot issues: http://sourceforge.net/p/boot-repair/home/Home/ Sincerely, K. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130606165000.0aa1af65.listskail...@gmail.com
Debian/Linux tutorials.
Hi there!! I wanted to know please where can I enrich my knowledge about Linux at general and especially about Debian regarding variety of topics such as the system boot process, what are tty's? and where are located the scripts that the system runs during the boot and shutdown process, how to manage groups policies and how manage the whole system at all. where can I find some useful resources/documentation/references that speak in clear fashion, because the man pages often uses some concepts which aren't familiar to the beginner user, so I look for some resources that are friendly with the beginner user. Thanks in advance!! atar. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/op.wx8707bpe4gg2u@xp
Re: How to consistently install a set of packages?
On Jo, 06 iun 13, 14:39:22, David wrote: > > Because some packages create users and groups, I want to be sure that > these packages are installed in the same sequence on every PC so that > numeric uid & gid in /etc/passwd and /etc/group end up the same on all > PCs. This will make admin easier when keeping the shared data in sync > if the numeric uid and gid are the same in every OS. For my curiosity, could you please provide an example where *system* users need to be synchronized between different machines? Kind regards, Andrei -- http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Trouble reinstalling everything.
On Jo, 06 iun 13, 16:32:53, John Tate wrote: > Thanks, I'm not entirely sure what man page to read to find how to do a > preferences.d, I just tried man preferences.d. The list of man pages for > section five is huge so I'd appreciate a hint. apt_preferences(5) You might also want to install bash-completion ;) Kind regards, Andrei -- http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Debian/Linux tutorials.
On Jo, 06 iun 13, 14:11:21, atar wrote: > Hi there!! > > I wanted to know please where can I enrich my knowledge about Linux > at general and especially about Debian regarding variety of topics > such as the system boot process, what are tty's? and where are > located the scripts that the system runs during the boot and > shutdown process, how to manage groups policies and how manage the > whole system at all. where can I find some useful > resources/documentation/references that speak in clear fashion, > because the man pages often uses some concepts which aren't familiar > to the beginner user, so I look for some resources that are friendly > with the beginner user. http://www.debian.org/doc/ Kind regards, Andrei -- http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: How to consistently install a set of packages?
On 06/06/2013, Kailash wrote: > On Thu, 6 Jun 2013 17:30:24 +1000 > David wrote: > >> On 06/06/2013, James Richardson wrote: >> > David wrote: >> >> [...] >> >> >> Because some packages create users and groups, I want to be sure >> >> that these packages are installed in the same sequence on every PC >> >> so that numeric uid & gid in /etc/passwd and /etc/group end up the >> >> same on all PCs. This will make admin easier when keeping the >> >> shared data in sync if the numeric uid and gid are the same in >> >> every OS. Hi Kailash Thank you for looking at my issue. > I did some searching re UIDs and GIDs, and it appears that the > adduser.conf file can be used to manage this behavior. If I understand correctly, adduser.conf can be used to set the range of dynamically allocated uid/gid using FIRST_SYSTEM_UID and its friends. But I don't think that changing these defaults will help me. Also, I don't see that adduser.conf can be used to define which pkg gets which uid/gid within this range. If I understand correctly then this depends only on the sequence in which the packages are installed. > In addition if you look at the manpage of adduser the option "--uid" > will allow you to choose the user's ID. And addgroup has a similar > option. > > So, perhaps all you need is a common script that does it for you. Normally the package install scripts do these commands themselves. So, I could try preempting them as James suggested, but I'm uneasy that that might cause the installs to abort or query. I need to test this. Or, I could allow the package install scripts to run, and then afterward fiddle with their values if necessary. I would also need to find all relevant files and chown them to the new values. If nothing breaks then that approach would be ok. But if things do/might break, then that approach is no good. Instead, I would need to control the install sequence of the packages. If so, what might be good approaches to achieve that? That is my question: 1) might it break? 2) If so, how best to avoid? > Please do refer to the policy manual re the allocation policy for > Debian. > http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-opersys.html#s9.2 Yes. This specifies the dynamically allocated uid/gid range. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAMPXz=qxv2beqaxus3dtxls3siwwyr_akrsomjmk2ahqpo7...@mail.gmail.com
Gstreamer Jack plugin
Hi All, I'm experimenting with sound settings on my box: 7.0 stable Using main non-free and contrib repositories. I've currently got PulseAudio running and several apps which use Gstreamer for audio. I'd like to use Jack instead. I've tried some searches to find a Gstreamer Jack plugin, but haven't found any. Any help here would be appreciated. Thanks, Kailash -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130606182702.3c012064.listskail...@gmail.com
Re: boot fails on wheezy
On Thu, 6 Jun 2013, Kailash wrote: You could try using this tool thatll help you fix most of your boot issues: http://sourceforge.net/p/boot-repair/home/Home/ may be useful, but what is the advantage over the reacue option of the squeeze or wheezy install cd? Anyway, in my case, there was nothing to repair... best regards, -- Pierre Frenkiel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/alpine.deb.2.02.1306061402380.18...@pfr2.frenkiel-hure.net
su user -c
Hi all :-) this is the part of my script: email0=us...@domain0.org;email1=us...@domain1.org;name=user0;username=user1;domainname=domain0;echo | mutt -s "test message $name" -b email0 email1 if I run this script of own user, runs correctly but when (inside the script) I use: su user -c email0=us...@domain0.org;email1=us...@domain1.org;name=user0;username=user1;domainname=domain0;echo | mutt -s "test message $name" -b email0 email1 its does not run any idea? is it a problem with ' " charset? thanks! Pol -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/51b07ee9.8020...@fuckaround.org
Installing libgtk2.0-0:i386 on amd64 system
Hello, As the subject says, I'm having problems installing libgtk2.0-0:i386 on my amd64 sid system. The problem is that I am using the cisco anyconnect client, which requires the i386 version, but when I attempt to install at one (the amd64 version is installed), I get a bunch of dependency issues: # apt-get install libgtk2.0-0:i386 Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable distribution that some required packages have not yet been created or been moved out of Incoming. The following information may help to resolve the situation: The following packages have unmet dependencies: libgtk2.0-0:i386 : Depends: libcups2:i386 (>= 1.4.0) but it is not going to be installed Depends: libgssapi-krb5-2:i386 (>= 1.6.dfsg.2) but it is not going to be installed Depends: libk5crypto3:i386 (>= 1.6.dfsg.2) but it is not going to be installed Depends: libkrb5-3:i386 (>= 1.6.dfsg.2) but it is not going to be installed Recommends: hicolor-icon-theme:i386 but it is not installable E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages. No packages are held on thei machine. I tried downloading the package and installing through dpkg -i (though I didn't follow through with it), but it wanted to uninstall several packages: The following packages will be REMOVED: krb5-multidev krb5-user libcups2-dev libgtk2.0-0:i386 libkadm5clnt-mit7 libkadm5clnt-mit8 libkadm5srv-mit7 libkadm5srv-mit8 libkdb5-4 libkrb5-dev the -dev packages are not so much of an issue, but we use Kerberos at work, so I can't afford to have that removed. Got suggestions on how to get this lib to work? thanks, --b
Re: How to consistently install a set of packages?
On 06/06/2013, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Jo, 06 iun 13, 14:39:22, David wrote: >> >> Because some packages create users and groups, I want to be sure that >> these packages are installed in the same sequence on every PC so that >> numeric uid & gid in /etc/passwd and /etc/group end up the same on all >> PCs. This will make admin easier when keeping the shared data in sync >> if the numeric uid and gid are the same in every OS. > > For my curiosity, could you please provide an example where *system* > users need to be synchronized between different machines? Hi Andrei Thank you for taking an interest in my question. What I do with my 3 machines is apparently a little out of the ordinary because it does not follow the typical client server model everyone is used to, but it does work for me very effectively. Instead, any single machine of mine is capable of taking the role of any other, to provide redundancy. Currently there is one desktop and two notebooks on a home LAN with a ADSL modem/router. There is only a single user, me. I do not serve anything to the internet. The notebooks are clones of one another except for unique hostnames and static ips, so we can ignore one of them. They are duplicates to provide redundancy and multiple independent screens at my workstation, for example monitoring or low-power logging of IRC. The desktop is the master copy of everything, the notebooks are very similar to it, having the same installed apps, config, and shared data. Each machine has multiple OS root partitions managed by grub1, each with /usr and /var. There is a different home dir for each OS with its own dotfiles (lets say that to keep this story simpler), but most of my work data files are bindmounted under it from a common data partition. Also some apps are configured to use this common data partition, for example the approx cache. This common data partition is also manually synced by either rsync or unison across all machines. This is all working nicely for me for several years. I like the redundancy and flexibility. However I need to update the base OS so I'm moving to try wheezy with lxde on one partition, then I will try sid on another. Now the example you requested, lets consider 'approx'. I want approx on every OS partition on every machine to use the same numeric uid/gid, because the approx cache is on the synced data partition. So across all machines there is only ever one approx process running, but it can easily be started on whichever machine is most convenient, after the shared data partition is manually synced. What I have said regarding approx would also apply to other servers. For example, I might want to play with a http server, that I could run on any machine, but it would have data available from the synced data partition. Another possible candidate would be dnsmasq. This is just for convenience, and definitely not for concurrent use, because the sync is manual. For example, I prefer to work on the desktop, but if I have to go somewhere, I just unison all the data onto one of the notebooks, go somewhere and work happily , then unison again to the desktop master when I return. Or, if the desktop is down for maintenance, one of the notebooks easily takes any LAN server roles. The above is a simplified explanation however I hope it conveys the essence of what I do and presents a use case. If I put all this in my initial email it would have been too long, no-one would have read it! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAMPXz=qepn-cydsgfaqxvlh2eebopnh0rknngq_iam98kzt...@mail.gmail.com
[Solved] Installing libgtk2.0-0:i386 on amd64 system
Was able to get this going by pulling the package from experimental... Thanks all, --b On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 8:26 AM, Brad Alexander wrote: > Hello, > > As the subject says, I'm having problems installing libgtk2.0-0:i386 on my > amd64 sid system. The problem is that I am using the cisco anyconnect > client, which requires the i386 version, but when I attempt to install at > one (the amd64 version is installed), I get a bunch of dependency issues: > > # apt-get install libgtk2.0-0:i386 > Reading package lists... Done > Building dependency tree > Reading state information... Done > Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have > requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable > distribution that some required packages have not yet been created > or been moved out of Incoming. > The following information may help to resolve the situation: > > The following packages have unmet dependencies: > libgtk2.0-0:i386 : Depends: libcups2:i386 (>= 1.4.0) but it is not going > to be installed > Depends: libgssapi-krb5-2:i386 (>= 1.6.dfsg.2) but it > is not going to be installed > Depends: libk5crypto3:i386 (>= 1.6.dfsg.2) but it is > not going to be installed > Depends: libkrb5-3:i386 (>= 1.6.dfsg.2) but it is not > going to be installed > Recommends: hicolor-icon-theme:i386 but it is not > installable > E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages. > > No packages are held on thei machine. I tried downloading the package and > installing through dpkg -i (though I didn't follow through with it), but it > wanted to uninstall several packages: > > The following packages will be REMOVED: > krb5-multidev krb5-user libcups2-dev libgtk2.0-0:i386 libkadm5clnt-mit7 > libkadm5clnt-mit8 libkadm5srv-mit7 libkadm5srv-mit8 libkdb5-4 libkrb5-dev > > the -dev packages are not so much of an issue, but we use Kerberos at > work, so I can't afford to have that removed. > > Got suggestions on how to get this lib to work? > > thanks, > --b >
Re: Installing libgtk2.0-0:i386 on amd64 system
On Thu, 6 Jun 2013 08:26:56 -0400 Brad Alexander wrote: > Hello, > > As the subject says, I'm having problems installing libgtk2.0-0:i386 > on my amd64 sid system. The problem is that I am using the cisco > anyconnect client, which requires the i386 version, but when I > attempt to install at one (the amd64 version is installed), I get a > bunch of dependency issues: > I'm guessing you've already added the i386 architecture using dpkg. http://wiki.debian.org/Multiarch/Implementation Once done, you should run apt-get update. Then try > # apt-get install libgtk2.0-0:i386 Sincerely, Kailash -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130606192048.12ed4563.listskail...@gmail.com
Re: Debian/Linux tutorials.
Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Jo, 06 iun 13, 14:11:21, atar wrote: Hi there!! I wanted to know please where can I enrich my knowledge about Linux at general and especially about Debian regarding variety of topics such as the system boot process, what are tty's? and where are located the scripts that the system runs during the boot and shutdown process, how to manage groups policies and how manage the whole system at all. where can I find some useful resources/documentation/references that speak in clear fashion, because the man pages often uses some concepts which aren't familiar to the beginner user, so I look for some resources that are friendly with the beginner user. http://www.debian.org/doc/ Speaking as a beginner myself, those are written by and for experts. I found out, during an engineering co-op assignment 40 years ago, just how difficult it is to write technical documentation aimed at someone with a different background. And it was only a ten page production line test procedure. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/51b08a91.60...@cloud85.net
Re: Debian/Linux tutorials.
On Thu, 06 Jun 2013 08:11:45 -0500 Richard Owlett wrote: > Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > On Jo, 06 iun 13, 14:11:21, atar wrote: > >> Hi there!! > >> > >> I wanted to know please where can I enrich my knowledge about Linux > >> at general and especially about Debian regarding variety of topics > >> such as the system boot process, what are tty's? and where are > >> located the scripts that the system runs during the boot and > >> shutdown process, how to manage groups policies and how manage the > >> whole system at all. where can I find some useful > >> resources/documentation/references that speak in clear fashion, > >> because the man pages often uses some concepts which aren't > >> familiar to the beginner user, so I look for some resources that > >> are friendly with the beginner user. > > > > http://www.debian.org/doc/ > > > > Speaking as a beginner myself, those are written by and for experts. > > I found out, during an engineering co-op assignment 40 years ago, > just how difficult it is to write technical documentation aimed > at someone with a different background. And it was only a ten > page production line test procedure. > > > Hi, I'm going through the same process myself. For me, a good start was the TDLP site. Specifically "Introduction to Linux" was a great start: http://www.tldp.org/guides.html And http://www.tldp.org/LDP/www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-tutorial/ although obsolete is still gives you a good grounding, I feel. After that, you can try working into specific topics by searching on youtube, google etc. Good luck Kailash -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130606200958.0b90d199.listskail...@gmail.com
Re: Debian/Linux tutorials.
On Thursday 06 June 2013 14:11:45 Richard Owlett wrote: > Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > On Jo, 06 iun 13, 14:11:21, atar wrote: > >> Hi there!! > >> > >> I wanted to know please where can I enrich my knowledge about Linux > >> at general and especially about Debian regarding variety of topics > >> such as the system boot process, what are tty's? and where are > >> located the scripts that the system runs during the boot and > >> shutdown process, how to manage groups policies and how manage the > >> whole system at all. where can I find some useful > >> resources/documentation/references that speak in clear fashion, > >> because the man pages often uses some concepts which aren't familiar > >> to the beginner user, so I look for some resources that are friendly > >> with the beginner user. > > > > http://www.debian.org/doc/ > > Speaking as a beginner myself, those are written by and for experts. That is your opinion, Richard. It is not one shared by everybody, and we were all newbies at some stage. Have a look Atar, and judge for yourself. Your questions suggest that they might be just right for you. Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201306061452.06771.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: How to consistently install a set of packages?
Dear David: On 06/06/2013 07:05 AM, Kailash wrote: I did some searching re UIDs and GIDs, and it appears that the adduser.conf file can be used to manage this behavior. [...] So, perhaps all you need is a common script that does it for you. Please do refer to the policy manual re the allocation policy for Debian. http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-opersys.html#s9.2 I believe Kailash has given you the answer; the referenced policy manual says: Begin extract 100-999: Dynamically allocated system users and groups. Packages which need a user or group, but can have this user or group allocated dynamically and differently on each system, should use adduser --system to create the group and/or user. ***adduser will check for the existence of the user or group, and if necessary choose an unused id based on the ranges specified in adduser.conf.*** End extract -- [emphasis added :-)] This sounds like exactly what you want. Set up your initial system, copy passwd, shadow, group, & gshadow (you probably want to use tar to simplify keeping owner & group correct), and install them on each of the other systems. Then do your installs there, and don't worry about order, because ``adduser will check for the existence of the user or group'', and use the values already set up on the system. Thanks for raising this point, as I keep multiple user accounts for various activities (general, business, running a charity, ...), and have been editing the four files by hand to make them match across OS installations. As Bill Nye doesn't say, ``Nooow I Know!'' -- Best wishes, Max Hyre -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/51b091de.60...@hyre.net
Re: Debian 7 ext4 problem
Good time of the day, Andrei. On Sat, 1 Jun 2013 21:34:37 +0300 you wrote: > I have a serious problem with overloading the hard drive. > I have a website and use MySQL, at that moment began the biggest > problems the hard drive is under constant load. > The hard drive is noisy, slow. I think there is a problem with the > driver for ext4. I suggest to detect the culprit w/ iotop and then either solve the problem yourself or make a bug report against the package that provides the binary that created the process. Sthu. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/51b09816.c41b980a.0944.2...@mx.google.com
Re: How to consistently install a set of packages?
On 06/06/2013, Max Hyre wrote: > > I believe Kailash has given you the answer; the referenced > policy manual says: > > Begin extract > 100-999: > > Dynamically allocated system users and groups. Packages > which need a user or group, but can have this user or > group allocated dynamically and differently on each > system, should use adduser --system to create the group > and/or user. ***adduser will check for the existence of > the user or group, and if necessary choose an unused id > based on the ranges specified in adduser.conf.*** > End extract -- > [emphasis added :-)] > > This sounds like exactly what you want. Set up your initial > system, copy passwd, shadow, group, & gshadow (you probably want to > use tar to simplify keeping owner & group correct), and install them > on each of the other systems. Then do your installs there, and > don't worry about order, because ``adduser will check for the > existence of the user or group'', and use the values already set up > on the system. Hi Max Thanks for responding. I really hope you are correct! If you are, then I will be happy because the method is easy as you describe. Now that you draw attention to it, I notice the words "and if necessary" in the extract, and that gives me some hope because I cannot think of any other possible interpretation of those words apart from what you suggest. However, I still feel the need to test this myself or hear from someone who has, because your words "and use the values already set up on the system." unfortunately do not appear in any documentation that I can find. Also, 'man 8 useradd' does not state this either, for the --system option. I saw there that useradd has exit status =9 if "username already in use" and feared that would apply. But, perhaps it does not, if the --system option is used. I will try to test this tomorrow. It will be great if it behaves as you suggest. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAMPXz=qCMbL_hnU2qOdg9HC=2n78dse7pgzo57wqik2bavk...@mail.gmail.com
Re: How to consistently install a set of packages?
On 07/06/2013, David wrote: > > Also, 'man 8 useradd' does not state this either, for the --system > option. I saw there that useradd has exit status =9 if > "username already in use" and feared that would apply. Oops, I was mistakenly reading an old Fedora manpage. On wheezy, 'man 8 adduser' says: "If a user with the same name already exists in the system uid range [...] adduser will exit with a warning. This warning can be suppressed by adding --quiet". It is unclear to me if --quiet just suppresses the warning, or also the exit. So, I still fear that is likely to upset the package install scripts. As I keep saying, I need to test this tomorrow. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAMPXz=q1oL0sv6XHkwznokUdT6PdR5rGf-hZ8fU7Qfs==l6...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Sound But No CD Sound
On 06/05/2013 12:46 PM, Thomas H. George wrote: On Wed, Jun 05, 2013 at 02:50:09AM -0500, Kent West wrote: On 6/5/13 2:18 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Ma, 04 iun 13, 09:15:35, Thomas H. George wrote: My system is Wheezy. ogg123 plays ogg files perfectly with sound. workbone plays the cd but there is no sound. cdir lists the tracks on the cd. This may be obvious to you, but... the CD usually has a dedicated channel. Did you check the volume level and mute/unmute? Kind regards, Andrie My memory is hazy, but I vaguely recall that CD drives used to also have a dedicated audio cable that plugged into the motherboard. Without that cable, there would be no audio, I think. I put this box together years ago and there is such a cable. Moreover, the system played CD's when I last tried to play one. That was a couple of months ago. I did have trouble one time previously and resolved it. The resolution as I recall involved choosing the right sound care, on motherboard or Nvidia. I have tried both and it is the Nvidia card that works with ogg123. Ah, I missed that detail, that it will play oggs. Perhaps your missing the appropriate codecs? I don't really know what I'm doing, but I recall having to download a codec package (from mplayer.com?) and unzip it in a certain directory. -- Kent West<*)))>< http://kentwest.blogspot.com Praise Yah! \o/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/51b0a04b.8010...@acu.edu
Re: Debian/Linux tutorials.
On Thu, Jun 06, 2013 at 02:11:21PM +0300, atar wrote: > I wanted to know please where can I enrich my knowledge about Linux > at general and especially about Debian Linode's got some great tutorials: https://library.linode.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130606144811.GA24390@tuzo
Re: su user -c
On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 9:22 AM, Pol Hallen wrote: > Hi all :-) > > this is the part of my script: > > email0=us...@domain0.org;email1=us...@domain1.org;name=user0;username=user1;domainname=domain0;echo > | mutt -s "test message $name" -b email0 email1 > > if I run this script of own user, runs correctly > > but when (inside the script) I use: > > su user -c > email0=us...@domain0.org;email1=us...@domain1.org;name=user0;username=user1;domainname=domain0;echo > | mutt -s "test message $name" -b email0 email1 You need to quote the command. su reads just 1 argument after -c and invokes the sh -c . Example: guido@solid:~$ su someoneelse -c touch asd Password: touch: missing file operand Try `touch --help' for more information. guido@solid:~$ su someoneelse -c "touch asd" Password: touch: cannot touch `asd': Permission denied Guido > > its does not run > > any idea? > > is it a problem with ' " charset? > > thanks! > > Pol > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org > Archive: http://lists.debian.org/51b07ee9.8020...@fuckaround.org > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/ca++dqumsagvce68redxqpwbmmyarbbgam1z+zmnu_jv+t2n...@mail.gmail.com
Re: How to consistently install a set of packages?
On Jo, 06 iun 13, 22:52:25, David wrote: > > What I do with my 3 machines is apparently a little out of the ordinary > because it does not follow the typical client server model everyone is > used to, but it does work for me very effectively. Instead, any single > machine of mine is capable of taking the role of any other, to provide > redundancy. [snip] Interesting. However, I would think cloning an install would be easier than installing from scratch and adjusting it to match the others. Kind regards, Andrei -- http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: How to consistently install a set of packages?
On Vi, 07 iun 13, 00:38:46, David wrote: > > So, I still fear that is likely to upset the package install scripts. As I > keep > saying, I need to test this tomorrow. If this wouldn't work then the sequence: apt-get install apt-get purge apt-get install would also fail, since packages don't remove system users on purge. Kind regards, Andrei -- http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: How to consistently install a set of packages?
On 07/06/2013, Andrei POPESCU wrote: [...] > packages don't remove system users on purge. That is extremely encouraging ... thanks Andrei! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAMPXz=oJUWQgUwbaSKi5jZ9bD=3aaqbi6kavgy2-reg5++d...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Need help with netinst of wheezy on pentium 4 machine
On 06/05/2013 03:51 PM, Bob Proulx wrote: Hi Paul, paul e condon wrote: I purchased some time ago a refurb Dell GX620. I have received conflicting advice on this list about whether I should use amd64 or i386 CDs to install Wheezy, but amd64 CDs seem to get further into the install so what I want help with now is all about amd64 type CDs. As far as installation goes either i386 or amd64 should install and complete successfully. There shouldn't be any difference in terms of supported architecture for either of those. That you are seeing a difference is troubling and probably means that the media is corrupted for one of them. The difference is either 32-bit or 64-bit. There is a lot of conflicting advice because there isn't clearly one that is always superior to the other. For some things 32-bit is better. For other things 64-bit is better. And therefore in the end you will simply need to pick one and move forward with it. I will say a few words about each. The amd64 is newer and "cooler" and so there has been a lot of momentum moving that direction. It has more cpu registers and therefore the compiler can optimize code to run faster by making use of the extra registers. But pointers are 64-bit each and use more memory. Applications that have a lot of pointers to data need a lot more memory. In general a 64-bit system tends to use more memory than a 32-bit system. Therefore if you are short on memory then a 32-bit system is more efficient. Memory is quite affordable these days and an 8G 64-bit amd64 system will often be cheaper than a 4G 32-bit i386 system. With the more memory and performance I would always pick amd64 at that point. If I only had a 2G machine then I would stay with a 32-bit i386 system. For a long time closed source proprietary applications were usually only 32-bit. Think Adobe Flash and so forth. So having a plain 32-bit system often made using these 3rd party closed nonfree blobs easier. But since so many people are using 64-bit these days most of those problems have been resolved in one way or another and for the most part a 64-bit amd64 system will now run anything that a 32-bit i386 system will run. If that is truly a concern for you then sticking with a 32-bit system might make things simpler. But I only install 64-bit amd64 these days. I set out to install using LVM and selected a single large logical partition. The disk has a capacity of 160GB. The install failed because, the error message said the requested architecture was not available on the mirror that I had chosen. What mirror did you choose? I routinely use ftp.us.debian.org from the installation menu. But it did not say what architecture it thought I had chosen. What installation image did you use? One of the fixed architectures or one of the multi-architectures? And the 'mirror' that I was invoking is my local installation of approx on a wheezy on a different local computer. I haven't used approx for a long time. I can't remember if it is hard configured for upstream sites or if it is totally transparent. I have been using apt-cacher-ng and like it. It is transparent, meaning that whatever upstream you are asking for is cached and proxied. I liked it better than approx. Other than that if you have CD#1 (or DVD or whatever) you should be able to install a complete minimum system only from it. After installation then you can switch the /etc/apt/sources.list to your approx proxy and install additional components. I look into /var/cache on that computer and both amd64 and i386 are present in the approx cache. This morning I resume work and the first thing I want to do is try again, because I do make mistakes. But this morning I cannot repartition the disk using the partitioning system on the CD that was burnt from a jigdo iso image on May 31. It would not delete/remove/whatever the LVM and would not recognize it as a usable /root. There is a confusing behavior of the installer and I think you are hitting it. If there is an existing partition table then it will present it to you and allow you to use it. If the existing partition table indicates RAID or LVM partitions then it will allow you to use those too. Which means that if you *don't* want to use them that you need to do some more work to avoid the pre-existing ones and to set up new ones. There is an option to configure the LVM manager. From memory I believe you need to select that option and then delete and deactivate LVM if you don't want to us it. Same thing for RAID. I remember this being slightly confusing if you are wanting to install freshly upon it because it shows you the previous pre-existing configuration. But many people want that because they have other operating systems on the disk and they want to partition it using the other system first and then install and this behavior allows them to keep the other systems alive and intact and install around them. If this is too much hassle then you can always zero o
UEFI problem with wheezy on an ASUS F1A75-V PRO motherboard
Hello, I tried to install a wheezy "UEFI" version on an ASUS F1A75-V PRO motherboard (with UEFI and the newest firmware 2201) but without success. To test it a little bit what goes wrong, I started the rescue mode and called 'efibootmgr' what shows this (which looks fine for me): BootCurrent: 0002 Timeout: 1 seconds BootOrder: ,0001,0002 Boot* CD/DVD Drive Boot0001* Hard Drive Boot0002* UEFI: Sandisk Cruzer 8.01 But if I call: efibootmgr -t 5 (or: efibootmgr -c -L "debian" -l '\EFI\debian\grubx64.efi') and after that: efibootmgr, I always see the same: BootCurrent: 0002 Timeout: 1 seconds BootOrder: ,0001,0002 Boot* CD/DVD Drive Boot0001* Hard Drive Boot0002* UEFI: Sandisk Cruzer 8.01 So I think I can't write any variable into this UEFI. I that right? Is there anyone with the same issue? Has anyone experience with this motherboard or can give me a hint what I can do to "use" UEFI? I know that I can use this board and wheezy with the CSM of UEFI. Thanks for an advice Dieter Faulbaum -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/riea9n3mfe6@alder.acc.bessy.de
Re: boot fails on wheezy (SOLVED)
Pierre Frenkiel wrote: > Bob Proulx wrote: > >You are correct. The BIOS has an ordering. The OS has an ordering. > >They are separate software and will each do their own thing. I have > >often had problems with the BIOS disk ordering being different form > >the OS disk ordering. > > my concern is not disk ordering: as already said by several people, > using UUID makes you independant of any disc ordering. > It is to determine what can produce a change in the BIOS settings, > apart from a power failure. BIOS bugs. Bob signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Installing libgtk2.0-0:i386 on amd64 system
On 06/06/13 13:26, Brad Alexander wrote: Hello, As the subject says, I'm having problems installing libgtk2.0-0:i386 on my amd64 sid system. The problem is that I am using the cisco anyconnect client, which requires the i386 version, but when I attempt to install at one (the amd64 version is installed), I get a bunch of dependency issues: # apt-get install libgtk2.0-0:i386 Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable distribution that some required packages have not yet been created or been moved out of Incoming. The following information may help to resolve the situation: The following packages have unmet dependencies: libgtk2.0-0:i386 : Depends: libcups2:i386 (>= 1.4.0) but it is not going to be installed Depends: libgssapi-krb5-2:i386 (>= 1.6.dfsg.2) but it is not going to be installed Depends: libk5crypto3:i386 (>= 1.6.dfsg.2) but it is not going to be installed Depends: libkrb5-3:i386 (>= 1.6.dfsg.2) but it is not going to be installed Recommends: hicolor-icon-theme:i386 but it is not installable E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages. No packages are held on thei machine. I tried downloading the package and installing through dpkg -i (though I didn't follow through with it), but it wanted to uninstall several packages: The following packages will be REMOVED: krb5-multidev krb5-user libcups2-dev libgtk2.0-0:i386 libkadm5clnt-mit7 libkadm5clnt-mit8 libkadm5srv-mit7 libkadm5srv-mit8 libkdb5-4 libkrb5-dev the -dev packages are not so much of an issue, but we use Kerberos at work, so I can't afford to have that removed. Got suggestions on how to get this lib to work? thanks, --b It might be a problem with one of the dependencies: libgssapi-krb5-2 There is currently a mismatch of versions for amd64 and i386 (in 'sid'), and they seem mutually exclusive: $ aptitude versions libgssapi-krb5-2 Package libgssapi-krb5-2: i 1.10.1+dfsg-6 unstable 500 Package libgssapi-krb5-2:i386: p 1.10.1+dfsg-5 unstable 500 -- Klaus -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/51b0c73e.6050...@gmail.com
Re: boot fails on wheezy (SOLVED)
On Thu, 6 Jun 2013, Bob Proulx wrote: BIOS bugs. A BIOS bug is surely involved, but that's not enough to explain the facts: After 4 years without any problem, a BIOS setting suddently changes, the BIOS being the same since the beginning (no BIOS update) For any software, a bug needs a given set of conditions to occur. Even when it seems to be not reproducible, one generally finds something which explains why it occured once, and not the other time... best regards, -- Pierre Frenkiel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/alpine.deb.2.02.1306061948040.8...@pfr2.frenkiel-hure.net
Re: Debian/Linux tutorials.
On Thu, 2013-06-06 at 14:11 +0300, atar wrote: > I wanted to know please where can I enrich my knowledge about Linux at > general and especially about Debian The Debian Handbook may be useful. It's available on a running Debian system by installing the 'debian-handbook' package, or online as a free download at http://debian-handbook.info/ -- Tixy -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1370542224.3271.3.ca...@computer5.home
Re (2): CUPS, "Add Printer Error".
From: "John L. Cunningham" Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2013 23:32:43 -0400 > ... make sure lpadmin is actually set as the administrator user group. peter@dalton:~$ grep lpadmin /etc/cups/cupsd.conf SystemGroup lpadmin peter@dalton:~$ grep lpadmin /etc/group lpadmin:x:112:peter Here are some lines from /var/log/cups/error_log D [06/Jun/2013:10:42:35 -0700] update_cups_browse: Refused 212 bytes from 172.24.1.1 D [06/Jun/2013:10:42:44 -0700] cupsdAcceptClient: 16 from 172.24.1.1:631 (IPv4) D [06/Jun/2013:10:42:44 -0700] cupsdReadClient: 16 POST /admin/ HTTP/1.1 D [06/Jun/2013:10:42:44 -0700] cupsdSetBusyState: newbusy="Active clients", busy="Not busy" D [06/Jun/2013:10:42:44 -0700] cupsdAuthorize: No authentication data provided. Under Squeeze, I wasn't in the lpadmin group but whenever an adminstrative task was attempted a simple authenication dialogue appeared. After authentication as root, administration was allowed. Under Wheezy, no dialogue appears. So I'd wonder that CUPS seeks authentication but can't obtain it. Was the authentication service which CUPS relies upon broken or removed in the grade from Squeeze to Wheezy? The dialogue was a drab rectangle with fields for user and password. Can anyone tell what software made that? Otherwise I'll set up an old Squeeze system and work to identify it. Thanks, ... Peter E. -- 123456789 123456789 123456789 123456789 123456789 123456789 123456789 12 Tel +13606390202 Bcc: peasthope at shaw.ca http://carnot.yi.org/ "http://members.shaw.ca/peasthope/index.html#Itinerary " -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/171058054.46650.22630@cantor.invalid
Re: Re (2): CUPS, "Add Printer Error".
On Thu, 6 Jun 2013 11:24:57 -0700 peasth...@shaw.ca wrote: Hello peasth...@shaw.ca, >or removed in the grade from Squeeze to Wheezy? The dialogue >was a drab rectangle with fields for user and password. Can >anyone tell what software made that? Otherwise I'll set up The browser you're using at the time. -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)radnever immediately apparent" Tired of doing day jobs with no thanks for what I do Do Anything You Wanna Do - Eddie & The Hotrods signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Re (2): CUPS, "Add Printer Error".
On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 2:24 PM, wrote: > From: "John L. Cunningham" > Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2013 23:32:43 -0400 >> ... make sure lpadmin is actually set as the administrator user group. > > peter@dalton:~$ grep lpadmin /etc/cups/cupsd.conf > SystemGroup lpadmin > peter@dalton:~$ grep lpadmin /etc/group > lpadmin:x:112:peter > > Here are some lines from /var/log/cups/error_log > D [06/Jun/2013:10:42:35 -0700] update_cups_browse: Refused 212 bytes from > 172.24.1.1 > D [06/Jun/2013:10:42:44 -0700] cupsdAcceptClient: 16 from 172.24.1.1:631 > (IPv4) > D [06/Jun/2013:10:42:44 -0700] cupsdReadClient: 16 POST /admin/ HTTP/1.1 > D [06/Jun/2013:10:42:44 -0700] cupsdSetBusyState: newbusy="Active clients", > busy="Not busy" > D [06/Jun/2013:10:42:44 -0700] cupsdAuthorize: No authentication data > provided. > > Under Squeeze, I wasn't in the lpadmin group but whenever an > adminstrative task was attempted a simple authenication dialogue > appeared. After authentication as root, administration was allowed. > Under Wheezy, no dialogue appears. So I'd wonder that CUPS > seeks authentication but can't obtain it. > > Was the authentication service which CUPS relies upon broken > or removed in the grade from Squeeze to Wheezy? The dialogue > was a drab rectangle with fields for user and password. Can > anyone tell what software made that? Otherwise I'll set up > an old Squeeze system and work to identify it. This is not responsive to your precise question, but here's what I believe to be the relevant section of my /etc/cups/cupsd.conf, which you might compare with yours (I'm still getting the authentication dialog on an updated testing system): DefaultAuthType Basic WebInterface Yes Order allow,deny Order allow,deny AuthType Default Require user @SYSTEM Order allow,deny Patrick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAJVvKsO16eX5aC25DiV240eSJfwoNCyUb9UXOS_PKPuR=uo...@mail.gmail.com
mutt and script
Hey all :-) Can I redirect output script to mutt body? i.e. echo|mutt -s "test" us...@domain0.org < script0.sh cat script0.sh #!/bin/sh echo $var1 echo $var2 thanks! Pol -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/51b0dd78.3060...@fuckaround.org
Re: Debian/Linux tutorials.
On Thursday 06 June 2013 19:10:24 Tixy wrote: > On Thu, 2013-06-06 at 14:11 +0300, atar wrote: > > I wanted to know please where can I enrich my knowledge about Linux at > > general and especially about Debian > > The Debian Handbook may be useful. It's available on a running Debian > system by installing the 'debian-handbook' package, or online as a free > download at http://debian-handbook.info/ There are also the IBM Linux tutorials: http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/ Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201306062004.11747.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: Email suggestions
On Thu, 6 Jun 2013 09:20:07 + Bonno Bloksma wrote: > Hi, > > >>> sure they create archive mail folders AND move the mail to those > >>> folders once the mail is read you will end up with mail on > >>> the server. > >> > >> Yes, and that's what concerns me. I don't know exactly how my > >> users manage their inboxes. If they're as bad as I am, the > >> required space can easily get out of hand :) > >> > > You could enforce a quota policy. Dovecot implements it, and it > > looks quite easy to setup: http://wiki2.dovecot.org/Quota > > I do not know if dovecot can do it but this is one place where the > Exchange server has a good way of dealing with it. It has 2 qouta > levels. The first will prevent you from sending any more mails until > you clean up your mailbox but it will still allow you to receive > mail. So you will not lose any mail. The second level will also stop > receiving mails, which is usually there to make sure that there IS a > limit to the mailbox, at work we have it set at double the first > limit. Exchange (which we use at work) is not my favorite mailserver > in many cases but this is one feature that I really like. > This is a job for the SMTP MTA rather than the IMAP access server. I don't know exim4 well enough to do this, but it looks possible: http://serverfault.com/questions/363016/exim-dovecot-user-over-quota-reject-on-send It may be that an exim4 forum would be a good place to search/ask. Exim4 does have its own quota enforcement, but it does prevent reception rather than sending. -- Joe -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130606201911.47b5f...@jretrading.com
Re: mutt and script
On Thu, Jun 06, 2013 at 09:05:28PM +0200, Pol Hallen wrote: > Hey all :-) > > Can I redirect output script to mutt body? i.e. > > echo|mutt -s "test" us...@domain0.org < script0.sh Don't use echo. Just pipe the output of the script to mutt. -- John -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130606192512.ga24...@daikon.vrg.org
Re: mutt and script
> Don't use echo. Just pipe the output of the script to mutt. thanks :-) Pol -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/51b0e6ef.7010...@fuckaround.org
Re: Sound But No CD Sound - Pulseaudio Problem?
On Tue, Jun 04, 2013 at 09:15:35AM -0400, Thomas H. George wrote: > My system is Wheezy. > ogg123 plays ogg files perfectly with sound. > workbone plays the cd but there is no sound. > cdir lists the tracks on the cd. > Could this be a pulseaudio problem? Something wrong in my setup? In /etc/fstab I have /dev/sr0 /cdrom iso9550,ro,user,noauto. The command cdplay like workbone starts reading the CD but no sound. Perhaps the signal is being redirected to nowhere? > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org > Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130604131535.ga19...@tomgeorge.info > > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130606201400.ga6...@tomgeorge.info
Re: Activities? Dash? Hot-corner?
On 6/6/13, Kailash wrote: > Hi, if you go to the top left corner of your screen, you enter > "Activities". You should see a panel on your left which has some > default favorite apps. Thank you for your response; you are much too kind. I pursued some researches of my own, and after man-handling gnome-shell into place, and compelling it to run; I quickly decided upon, and carried out, these (now-highly recommended) steps: # dpkg -r gnome-core # apt-get autoremove # apt-get install icewm All best, -- No no no, my fish's name is Eric, Eric the fish. He's an halibut. I am not a looney! Why should I be tarred with the epithet looney merely because I have a pet halibut? http://trollboy.thruhere.net:8080/MontyPython/fish.htm -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAJvq95M7ft0yw14q4Uv6wsBieLCbCze_GPr=excepxjidbp...@mail.gmail.com
Re: How to consistently install a set of packages?
On Fri, 7 Jun 2013 00:38:46 +1000 David wrote: > On 07/06/2013, David wrote: > > > > Also, 'man 8 useradd' does not state this either, for the --system > > option. I saw there that useradd has exit status =9 if > > "username already in use" and feared that would apply. > > Oops, I was mistakenly reading an old Fedora manpage. On wheezy, > 'man 8 adduser' says: > "If a user with the same name already exists in the system uid range > [...] adduser will exit with a warning. This warning can be > suppressed by adding --quiet". > > It is unclear to me if --quiet just suppresses the warning, or also > the exit. > That would imply to me that the warning is suppressed. The action (i.e. exit) will still take place. I would be very surprised to find that a package which normally installed a user and/or group would fail to make use of an existing one of the correct name (i.e. would actually delete an existing system user and create it again). At most it might modify other details e.g. home directory if the existing values were incorrect, or removing a password if one had been created, but I have doubts that most packages would even do that. I won't guarantee it could never happen, but I think the possibility is unlikely enough to be worth following the suggestion, and creating users and groups that match the existing /etc/passwd and /etc/group before installing the packages. Don't forget any home directories and to make sure the specified shell(s) will exist on the new system. It would seem likely that creating a script which does the whole job in one go would be the way to go, as it will be used more than once. You would certainly see after package installation if any of your values had been modified, and could change them back, along with permissions on whatever directories had been set up. I'd say this was a more useful strategy than trying to get the installation order of packages repeatable without installing them one by one. Oh, you might want to steer clear of sid for the next month or two. There's a lot of furniture being moved around at the moment, with a fair few corners being knocked off of things. The new SNMP doesn't work yet, and I've just had a delivery of broken CUPS, which I've declined. -- Joe -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130606214243.01779...@jretrading.com
Re: Sound But No CD Sound - Pulseaudio Problem?
On Thu, Jun 06, 2013 at 04:14:00PM -0400, Thomas H. George wrote: > On Tue, Jun 04, 2013 at 09:15:35AM -0400, Thomas H. George wrote: > > My system is Wheezy. > > ogg123 plays ogg files perfectly with sound. > > workbone plays the cd but there is no sound. > > cdir lists the tracks on the cd. > > > Could this be a pulseaudio problem? Something wrong in my setup? In > /etc/fstab I have /dev/sr0/cdrom iso9550,ro,user,noauto. The command > cdplay like workbone starts reading the CD but no sound. Perhaps the > signal is being redirected to nowhere? Update: Used grip to rip the tracks to ogg files. ogg123 plays these files with sound. Still no sound when workbone plays the cd. > > > > -- > > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org > > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > > listmas...@lists.debian.org > > Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130604131535.ga19...@tomgeorge.info > > > > > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org > Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130606201400.ga6...@tomgeorge.info > > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130606204732.ga7...@tomgeorge.info
Re: Sound But No CD Sound - Pulseaudio Problem?
On Thu, 6 Jun 2013 16:14:00 -0400 "Thomas H. George" wrote: > On Tue, Jun 04, 2013 at 09:15:35AM -0400, Thomas H. George wrote: > > My system is Wheezy. > > ogg123 plays ogg files perfectly with sound. > > workbone plays the cd but there is no sound. > > cdir lists the tracks on the cd. > > > Could this be a pulseaudio problem? Something wrong in my setup? In > /etc/fstab I have /dev/sr0/cdrom iso9550,ro,user,noauto. The > command cdplay like workbone starts reading the CD but no sound. > Perhaps the signal is being redirected to nowhere? That's possible. I had problems with sound when pulseaudio was installed by recommends at one time. I removed pulseaudio and all was well again. On my current setup with xfce there is no puleaudio and I have no problems with sound. libpulse0 and libpulse-mainloop-glib0 are installed but all is well. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130606135559.40817...@debian.ok.shawcable.net
Re: Dovecot IMAP
04.06.2013 18:15, Alex Dubinin пишет: > So work all mail clients that I tried! With other servers work fine. I > checked a few other servers. I think, this problem in namespaces. You > can try without thunderbird using telnet or openssl. My result: 04 > LIST "" "*" * LIST (\HasChildren) "." "INBOX" * LIST (\HasNoChildren) > "." "INBOX.Trash" But must be: 04 LIST "" "*" * LIST (\HasNoChildren) > "." "INBOX" * LIST (\HasNoChildren) "." "Trash" The root folder INBOX > - is result of having namespace 'INBOX' in dovecot 2 settings. Have any ideas? signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re (3): CUPS, "Add Printer Error".
Thanks to Brad and Patrick. From: Patrick Wiseman Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2013 14:52:54 -0400 > the relevant section of my /etc/cups/cupsd.conf Appears that my old cupsd.conf was moved to cupsd.conf.O and the packaged cupsd.conf was installed. I should have noticed. > > AuthType Default > Require user @SYSTEM > Order allow,deny > Reviewing the manual, this means block everything, allow as specified and then deny as specified. With no Allow after Order, isn't everything blocked? Here, this allows adding a printer. Order allow,deny Allow 172.24.1.* Thanks for the help, ... Peter E. -- 123456789 123456789 123456789 123456789 123456789 123456789 123456789 12 Tel +13606390202 Bcc: peasthope at shaw.ca http://carnot.yi.org/ "http://members.shaw.ca/peasthope/index.html#Itinerary " -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/171058054.59283.22633@cantor.invalid
Re: How to consistently install a set of packages?
On 06/05/2013 10:39 PM, David wrote: I have a small number of personal different-hardware PCs, each with the same set of different OS currently managed by grub v1. With unison, rsync, scripts, and some care I successfully keep all OS and the shared data in sync. It works great for my needs. I now intend to add Debian wheezy and hope that it becomes my preferred OS to replace an outdated Fedora. I already have a bare minimal base install of wheezy on each PC, achieved by running debian-installer manually in expert mode and unselecting everything on the tasksel page. I know the set of Debian packages I next want to install, without recommends (like aptitude -R). These will be served locally by approx. I keep the installation minimal for my needs only, and avoid gnome. Because some packages create users and groups, I want to be sure that these packages are installed in the same sequence on every PC so that numeric uid& gid in /etc/passwd and /etc/group end up the same on all PCs. This will make admin easier when keeping the shared data in sync if the numeric uid and gid are the same in every OS. To do the install I could use a shell script of many 'aptitude -R' calls, but I don't know the required order to satisfy dependencies. I could give 'aptitude -R' the large list of of packages, but how do I know that its depsolver will always install the packages in the same order? Perhaps I could do this once, and then get from some logfile the actual order that was used? google isnt helping me, results are dominated by debian-installer and preseeding but I think that is not relevant to my question because I already have installed debian manually. Please correct me if I am wrong. Are there any better methods I should be aware of, to ensure that everywhere the packages are installed in the same sequence? David, I am involved in a project that parallels your's in that it is just as 'outside the mainstream' as your's seems to be. I have found some useful features of Aptitude for building and using a personal selection of packages: To generate a list of installed packages, run; # aptitude -F "%p %M" search "~i" | tr -s " " > /root/packages-all This generates a list of all installed packages, followed by ' A' if the package marked as needed by some other package. Run: # grep -v ' A$' /root/packages-all > packages-noA to generate a minimum length list of packages that must be installed by Aptitude to force the installation of all packages via the dependency mechanism. Then to install the whole lot on a nearly naked computer, run: # aptitude install $(cat /root/packages-noA) The files are text which can be edited in vim or emacs to remove cruft that is actually on the source computer but that you really don't to be automatically propagated to all your computers. The order in which packages are actually install is, I think, not alphabetical. Aptitude has some internal logic that installs in an order that is defined by the dependency tree. On a related topic: Numbering of groups depends on the order in which the named groups were created during installation of the packages. You only have one user so that one user will always have a uid==1000 on Debian. All real users in Debian also have their own group, so your gid will be gid==1000. If you list the file /etc/group, you will find gid == 1000 towards the end of the list, but not at the end because /etc/group grows during install by adding new group name/gid as they are needed. You say the hardware of your several computers in not identical. There will likely be differences in the dependency tree in different architectures, so there will be problems over time keeping the name/number pairs the same in different architectures and different releases. I sure the problem is solvable but the effort may be beyond what you want expend on going your own way. It does sound like an interesting way to become very familiar with the insides of Debian, and a rich source of knit-picking bug reports on the documentation ;-) Good Luck, Paul -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/51b10b91.6030...@gmail.com
Re: How to consistently install a set of packages?
Le 07/06/2013 00:22, paul e condon a écrit :
[...]
Are there any better methods I should be aware of, to ensure that
everywhere the packages are installed in the same sequence?
David,
I am involved in a project that parallels your's in that it is just as
'outside the mainstream' as your's seems to be. I have found some
useful features of Aptitude for building and using a personal
selection of packages:
To generate a list of installed packages, run;
# aptitude -F "%p %M" search "~i" | tr -s " " > /root/packages-all
This generates a list of all installed packages, followed by ' A' if
the package marked as needed by some other package.
Run:
# grep -v ' A$' /root/packages-all > packages-noA
to generate a minimum length list of packages that must be installed
by Aptitude to force the installation of all packages via the
dependency mechanism.
Then to install the whole lot on a nearly naked computer, run:
# aptitude install $(cat /root/packages-noA)
The files are text which can be edited in vim or emacs to remove cruft
that is actually on the source computer but that you really don't to
be automatically propagated to all your computers.
The order in which packages are actually install is, I think, not
alphabetical. Aptitude has some internal logic that installs in an
order that is defined by the dependency tree.
On a related topic:
Numbering of groups depends on the order in which the named groups
were created during installation of the packages. You only have one
user so that one user will always have a uid==1000 on Debian. All real
users in Debian also have their own group, so your gid will be
gid==1000. If you list the file /etc/group, you will find gid == 1000
towards the end of the list, but not at the end because /etc/group
grows during install by adding new group name/gid as they are needed.
You say the hardware of your several computers in not identical. There
will likely be differences in the dependency tree in different
architectures, so there will be problems over time keeping the
name/number pairs the same in different architectures and different
releases. I sure the problem is solvable but the effort may be beyond
what you want expend on going your own way. It does sound like an
interesting way to become very familiar with the insides of Debian,
and a rich source of knit-picking bug reports on the documentation ;-)
Good Luck,
Paul
You can have in one command what you do :
And more, with the installed version, to be sure to install the same
version, even if there were updates since :
# aptitude -F "%p=%V" --disable-columns search '~i!M'
For the ordering problem. I dont think the solver is silly enought to
install in a different order the same set of packages, asuming the
starting state is the same of course.
Anyway, you can change the uid/gid afeterward if they are different !
And change the rights with a command like :
# find / -uid 120 -exec chown 110 {} \;
# find / -gid 120 -exec chgrp 110 {} \;
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Re: Re (2): Email suggestions
On 6/4/2013 3:59 AM, Klaus wrote: On 04/06/13 01:47, peasth...@shaw.ca wrote: From: Bonno Bloksma Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2013 10:26:39 + Using IMAP means that the mail WILL be left on the server unless the user moves the mail from the inbox ... IMAP is really useful because they can (re)read mail online which they already "downloaded" to their PC. Users with multiple client devices will see the same mail on all devices, with the same (read, marked, etc.) status. ... If you just want them to get their mail then stick with pop3. There is a way to have the advantages of POP3 and IMAP without the disadvantage of maintaining storage for users who neglect the mailbox. Offer POP3 and not IMAP and tell users to put their POP3 mbox on a flash storage device which is kept with the individual. Plug in the flash device and all the mail is there. Retrieve the mail to the flash device by POP3 whenever convenient. If the flash device is filled with old messages there is no problem for the server. When network access is not available, the messages in the flash are still there. It's the best of both worlds. Regards, ... Peter E. Except if you are in a corporate environment, where data security is an issue. That is not an issue in this case. If it were, the server would be in a secure location. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/51b117ac.9030...@attglobal.net
Re: Email suggestions
On 6/4/2013 3:01 AM, Guy Marcenac wrote: Le 03/06/2013 23:21, Jerry Stuckle a écrit : > sure they create archive mail folders AND move the mail to those > folders once the mail is read you will end up with mail on the > server. Yes, and that's what concerns me. I don't know exactly how my users manage their inboxes. If they're as bad as I am, the required space can easily get out of hand :) You could enforce a quota policy. Dovecot implements it, and it looks quite easy to setup: http://wiki2.dovecot.org/Quota I don't like quotas. They are just too restricting. For instance, when someone is in the office, they could keep their email cleaned up. However if they go on two weeks vacation and easily have their mailbox fill up. Then email would be lost. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/51b1181a.3090...@attglobal.net
Re: Email suggestions
On 6/6/2013 5:20 AM, Bonno Bloksma wrote: Hi, sure they create archive mail folders AND move the mail to those folders once the mail is read you will end up with mail on the server. Yes, and that's what concerns me. I don't know exactly how my users manage their inboxes. If they're as bad as I am, the required space can easily get out of hand :) You could enforce a quota policy. Dovecot implements it, and it looks quite easy to setup: http://wiki2.dovecot.org/Quota I do not know if dovecot can do it but this is one place where the Exchange server has a good way of dealing with it. It has 2 qouta levels. The first will prevent you from sending any more mails until you clean up your mailbox but it will still allow you to receive mail. So you will not lose any mail. The second level will also stop receiving mails, which is usually there to make sure that there IS a limit to the mailbox, at work we have it set at double the first limit. Exchange (which we use at work) is not my favorite mailserver in many cases but this is one feature that I really like. Bonno Bloksma Personally, I would consider this to be the worst of both worlds. Someone on a smart phone couldn't send an important reply unless they clean out their inbox first. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/51b118ce.1070...@attglobal.net
Re(2): Email suggestions
From: Jerry Stuckle Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2013 19:15:38 -0400 > ... if they go on two weeks vacation and easily have > their mailbox fill up. Then email would be lost. I'd take the flash card and a laptop. Inevitably there are opportunities to update the flash. While adjusting the helm there is plenty of time to compose replies. * From: Klaus * Date: Tue, 04 Jun 2013 08:59:37 +0100 > Except if you are in a corporate environment, where data security is an > issue. Does POP3+flash impair security more than IMAP+flash? Few employers prevent employees from bringing flash media. A dishonest or mischievous employee will ignore rules. Even if portable storage is eliminated, a display can be photographed. An employer is likely to lose more than is gained by trying to prohibit portable storage. Better to aim to attract good employees and to stay on good terms than to try to force conformance and obedience. Regards, ... Peter E. -- 123456789 123456789 123456789 123456789 123456789 123456789 123456789 12 Tel +13606390202 Bcc: peasthope at shaw.ca http://carnot.yi.org/ "http://members.shaw.ca/peasthope/index.html#Itinerary " -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/171058054.72388.22635@cantor.invalid
Scanning in Wheezy.
Dang; I'm beginning to regret replacing Squeeze. Since grading, the old HP ScanJet IIcx doesn't work. Wheezy doesn't have quiteinsane and the old plugin from Squeeze is no immediate help. http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=quiteinsane Is anyone using a scanner in Wheezy? Any ideas? Thanks, ... Peter E. -- 123456789 123456789 123456789 123456789 123456789 123456789 123456789 12 Tel +13606390202 Bcc: peasthope at shaw.ca http://carnot.yi.org/ "http://members.shaw.ca/peasthope/index.html#Itinerary " -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/171058054.75038.22636@cantor.invalid
Re: How to consistently install a set of packages?
On 06/06/2013 05:03 PM, Gilles Mocellin wrote:
Le 07/06/2013 00:22, paul e condon a écrit :
[...]
Are there any better methods I should be aware of, to ensure that
everywhere the packages are installed in the same sequence?
David,
I am involved in a project that parallels your's in that it is just
as 'outside the mainstream' as your's seems to be. I have found some
useful features of Aptitude for building and using a personal
selection of packages:
To generate a list of installed packages, run;
# aptitude -F "%p %M" search "~i" | tr -s " " > /root/packages-all
This generates a list of all installed packages, followed by ' A' if
the package marked as needed by some other package.
Run:
# grep -v ' A$' /root/packages-all > packages-noA
to generate a minimum length list of packages that must be installed
by Aptitude to force the installation of all packages via the
dependency mechanism.
Then to install the whole lot on a nearly naked computer, run:
# aptitude install $(cat /root/packages-noA)
The files are text which can be edited in vim or emacs to remove
cruft that is actually on the source computer but that you really
don't to be automatically propagated to all your computers.
The order in which packages are actually install is, I think, not
alphabetical. Aptitude has some internal logic that installs in an
order that is defined by the dependency tree.
On a related topic:
Numbering of groups depends on the order in which the named groups
were created during installation of the packages. You only have one
user so that one user will always have a uid==1000 on Debian. All
real users in Debian also have their own group, so your gid will be
gid==1000. If you list the file /etc/group, you will find gid == 1000
towards the end of the list, but not at the end because /etc/group
grows during install by adding new group name/gid as they are needed.
You say the hardware of your several computers in not identical.
There will likely be differences in the dependency tree in different
architectures, so there will be problems over time keeping the
name/number pairs the same in different architectures and different
releases. I sure the problem is solvable but the effort may be beyond
what you want expend on going your own way. It does sound like an
interesting way to become very familiar with the insides of Debian,
and a rich source of knit-picking bug reports on the documentation ;-)
Good Luck,
Paul
You can have in one command what you do :
And more, with the installed version, to be sure to install the same
version, even if there were updates since :
# aptitude -F "%p=%V" --disable-columns search '~i!M'
For the ordering problem. I dont think the solver is silly enought to
install in a different order the same set of packages, asuming the
starting state is the same of course.
In the example I gave the packages are listed in alphabetical order by
name. I doubt very much that they can actually be each fully installed
with all pointers to subroutines fully
bound to a actual entry point, all done in alphabetical order. I agree
that the reality can easily be hidden, but when one chooses to break
with the tried and true methods as David wants to do, problems arise.
Anyway, you can change the uid/gid afeterward if they are different !
And change the rights with a command like :
The Debian package has scripts that manipulate files in /etc/defaults
and elsewhere in order the set up the environment such that it will
operate in concert with the information in /etc/group as it is during
*install* process, not as the /etc/group might exist after some
post-install user manipulation, I believe. David may *say* he wants the
order in some particular way, but I'm sure he also wants the system to
function as well.
On both points, I think the installer as it exists already needs to do
the individual steps of an install in a particular order and one of the
early steps is to discover what that order is. David wants to have
control over that order, which, IMHO, he will find very hard to do. As
an example, only if one defines the meaning of 'install' to exclude the
link-edit step of a traditional compile body of code can it be
otherwise. Link edit, or instantiating pointer arrays can only be
generated after it has been decided where the blocks of code will be
placed in RAM. And this is just one of many problems.
# find / -uid 120 -exec chown 110 {} \;
# find / -gid 120 -exec chgrp 110 {} \;
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Re: Scanning in Wheezy.
On Thu, Jun 06, 2013 at 06:20:30PM -0700, peasth...@shaw.ca wrote: > Dang; I'm beginning to regret replacing Squeeze. > > Since grading, the old HP ScanJet IIcx doesn't work. > Wheezy doesn't have quiteinsane and the old plugin from > Squeeze is no immediate help. > http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=quiteinsane > > Is anyone using a scanner in Wheezy? Any ideas? I had a similar problem with my IIc. It had to do with the sg module, but I can't remember if it was that the module wasn't installed or merely not loaded. Try "sudo modprobe sg" and then reconnect the scanner to see if it is recognized. As a warning: even after I got it installed, it never worked that well. I had run both Xsane and Simple Scan because invariably one would refuse to work. When it did work, I had to fix every scan in Gimp because the levels were way off. No amount of calibration would stick. Eventually my printer died, and the cheapest replacement I could find also had a scanner. That worked flawlessly, so I ditched the IIc. -- John -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130607031646.ga21...@cerulean.myhome.westell.com
Re: Email suggestions
On 6/6/2013 8:43 PM, peasth...@shaw.ca wrote: From: Jerry Stuckle Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2013 19:15:38 -0400 ... if they go on two weeks vacation and easily have their mailbox fill up. Then email would be lost. I'd take the flash card and a laptop. Inevitably there are opportunities to update the flash. While adjusting the helm there is plenty of time to compose replies. Believe it or not, there are actually companies who don't want their people to even think about work while on vacation. And there are people who follow that advice. * From: Klaus * Date: Tue, 04 Jun 2013 08:59:37 +0100 Except if you are in a corporate environment, where data security is an issue. Does POP3+flash impair security more than IMAP+flash? Few employers prevent employees from bringing flash media. A dishonest or mischievous employee will ignore rules. Even if portable storage is eliminated, a display can be photographed. An employer is likely to lose more than is gained by trying to prohibit portable storage. Better to aim to attract good employees and to stay on good terms than to try to force conformance and obedience. Regards, ... Peter E. I never indicated security was a problem. But thanks for the input. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/51b151f1.7020...@attglobal.net
Re: Remplacement for zsafe on wheezy
On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 4:16 AM, Mérof 42 wrote: > Thanks you both, I'm going to test it. > It seem to be better than zsafe, with more options. > I just dislike qt library, but is a different story > > A question about keepassx, I saw it use AES 256bits to store password, is my > password safe if somebody steal my laptop per example? > Off course I plan to use a sufficient strong master password. > I'm not really familiar with encryption, and I don't know witch encryption > provide sufficient security. Another recommendation for KeePassX from me as well. It works on Linux, Mac, and Windows. That was one of the more important selling points for me. As far as the safety of a KeePassX database goes, I think you are fine. I too am not a mathematical computer wizard of science theory, so I suggest this post: http://serverfault.com/questions/51895/are-128-and-256bit-aes-encryption-considered-weak I also wanted to point out that you can set up a two-factor authentication scheme. Meaning, in addition to requiring that a password (something you know) be supplied, you can also require that a key file (something you have) be specified. That doesn't really have to do with security (your "sufficient security") but rather authentication. Since there can be an additional authentication factor, the likelihood of someone being able to brute force their way in to your password database are made lower. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/cah3rtgacxewxohy_gtfu9hxhvk4n1iatkwdf11k92el39t7...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Upgrade from 6.0.7 to 7.0 issues
On Sunday 02 June 2013 11:37 PM, Miroslav Skoric wrote: I upgraded the other day, and noticed some differences between my desktop appearance (Gnome) and what is described in the Help. According to Help, there should be some Activities menu or something like that in the upper left corner, but only I see is Applications and Places in that screen area. Any idea? Hi Miroslav, Looks like you're booting into Gnome Classic. Logout and see if you have other Gnome desktops available. Sincerely, Kailash -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/51b156d8.2000...@gmail.com
thinkpad t43 hangs
hi, i installed wheezy i386 on my t43 via netinst it hangs after i i installed a few sotwares/firwares which includes: firmware-fw2x00 firmware-linux-nonfree vlc msttcorefonts icedtea-plugin fkashpkugin-nonfree i'm not sure which one caused that but here's what happened: screen blank for a second then back again, mouse cursor disappeared. after i go to terminal ( Ctrl + Alt + F1) then back to Ctrl + Alt + F8, it goes back to normal for a while. After a few times, it finally hangs and I have to force shutdown. have anyone experienced this situation? any idea/suggestions? -- Regards, Umarzuki Mochlis http://debmal.my -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAHW9mbzpLRuREag=q_a5rmCiUBA=ruzknwfmbclwbrawr29...@mail.gmail.com
Upgrading from squeeze to wheezy fails with error
Today I tried upgrading from squeeze to wheezy. I followed the instructions here: http://www.howtoforge.com/how-to-upgrade-debian-squeeze-to-wheezy When I did the dist-upgrade, after it downloaded several hundred files, it gave me this error message: E: Could not perform immediate configuration on 'libgstreamer0.10-0'. Please see man 5 apt.conf under APT::Immediate-Configure for details. (2) I am stuck. Although others have experienced this problem, there are few solutions. The solutions I found did not work. I would be grateful for any suggestions on how to proceed. -- View this message in context: http://debian.2.n7.nabble.com/Upgrading-from-squeeze-to-wheezy-fails-with-error-tp2968556.html Sent from the Debian User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1370579997974-2968556.p...@n7.nabble.com
Re: Upgrading from squeeze to wheezy fails with error
Maybe you could share us link(s) to solutions that you had tried before? 2013/6/7 fireball : > Today I tried upgrading from squeeze to wheezy. I followed the instructions > here: > http://www.howtoforge.com/how-to-upgrade-debian-squeeze-to-wheezy > > When I did the dist-upgrade, after it downloaded several hundred files, it > gave me this error message: > > E: Could not perform immediate configuration on 'libgstreamer0.10-0'. Please > see man 5 apt.conf under APT::Immediate-Configure for details. (2) > > I am stuck. Although others have experienced this problem, there are few > solutions. The solutions I found did not work. > > I would be grateful for any suggestions on how to proceed. > > > > -- > View this message in context: > http://debian.2.n7.nabble.com/Upgrading-from-squeeze-to-wheezy-fails-with-error-tp2968556.html > Sent from the Debian User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org > Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1370579997974-2968556.p...@n7.nabble.com > -- Regards, Umarzuki Mochlis http://debmal.my -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/cahw9mby9bqcz8pqb46y175qc82aviornmyoogxklw66hc5_...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Dovecot IMAP
On 6/6/2013 3:59 PM, Alex Dubinin wrote: > 04.06.2013 18:15, Alex Dubinin пишет: >> So work all mail clients that I tried! With other servers work fine. I >> checked a few other servers. I think, this problem in namespaces. You >> can try without thunderbird using telnet or openssl. My result: 04 >> LIST "" "*" * LIST (\HasChildren) "." "INBOX" * LIST (\HasNoChildren) >> "." "INBOX.Trash" But must be: 04 LIST "" "*" * LIST (\HasNoChildren) >> "." "INBOX" * LIST (\HasNoChildren) "." "Trash" The root folder INBOX >> - is result of having namespace 'INBOX' in dovecot 2 settings. > Have any ideas? The Dovecot mailing list will be of more help. http://www.dovecot.org/mailinglists.html -- Stan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/51b18381.3000...@hardwarefreak.com
