User unable to umount
Hi have following line in my /etc/fstab //server/dir /mnt/dir cifs defaults,user,noauto,sec=krb50 0 mounting works flawlessly, unsing the ticket obtained through pam_krb5 at login. However umount /mnt/it leads to : umount: only root can unmount //server/dir from /mnt/dir There is no point to allowing user to mount but forbiding them yo umount the directory they mounted. DO someone have an idea on this problem, or should I report a bug against umount ? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130530070505.gs13...@rail.eu.org
Re: Re(2): GnuTLS versus OpenSSL.
On Wed, 2013-05-29 at 07:10 -0700, peasth...@shaw.ca wrote: > * From: Andrei POPESCU > * Date: Thu, 23 May 2013 19:31:42 +0300 > > I doubt there is any general Debian policy of using OpenSSL rather than > > GnuTLS. > > OK; thanks. > > > If a particular software can use both it's usually the package > > Maintainer who decides how that software will be configured for Debian. > > OpenVPN uses OpenSSL and I don't know of anything using GnuTLS; > but then my experience is meagre. As it happens, there is a security update for gnutls today and I see in aptitude as I upgrade it that there are 224 packages which depend on it, significant ones which I have installed are exim4, cups, wget, network-manager... -- Tixy -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1369898513.3245.3.ca...@computer5.home
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Re: strange authentication request (GNOME)
On 29/05/13 11:59, Brad Rogers wrote: > On Wed, 29 May 2013 10:47:55 +0100 > Matej Kosik <5764c029b688c1c0d24a2e97cd7...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hello Matej, > >> The reason seems to be that, from now on, GNOME cannot be installed >> without PackageKit. :-/ > > Oh dear. Maybe removal of the GNOME meta-package will allow you to > remove PackageKit. If that's what you wish to do. > GNOME & KDE somewhat increase the fragmentation. The trend (for GNOME & KDE) seems to be: --- Debian figured out unified management of window-manager menus. Does GNOME use it? Of course not. They created their own and stick to that. Result: package-maintainers have to support Debian, as well as, GNOME menues. --- Debian figured out unified management of preferred applications. Does GNOME use it? Of course not. They created their own mechanism. Result: users have to set preferences at two (or more) different places. --- (and now the PackageKit stuff) as if, GNOME was somehow special and deserved special treatment. :-/ Imagine, what would happen if everybody behaved this way... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/51a70ff3.9020...@gmail.com
Re: User unable to umount
On Thu, 2013-05-30 at 09:05 +0200, Erwan David wrote: > Hi have following line in my /etc/fstab > //server/dir /mnt/dir cifs > defaults,user,noauto,sec=krb50 0 > > mounting works flawlessly, unsing the ticket obtained through pam_krb5 at > login. > > However > > umount /mnt/it leads to : > > umount: only root can unmount //server/dir from /mnt/dir > > There is no point to allowing user to mount but forbiding them yo umount the > directory they mounted. > > DO someone have an idea on this problem, or should I report a bug against > umount ? You can use tools to mount and unmount as user, e.g. gvfs, something that I've got removed from my Linux. What's edited in fstab isn't mounted by the user. A regular mount and umount can only be done by root. I've written workarounds and never felt the need to write something better, to e.g. mount CDs, since it's easy to become root or to use sudo and than use regular Linux commands. [rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ cat /usr/local/sbin/lmount #!/bin/sh # /usr/local/sbin/lmount case $1 in -r|-w) mkdir -p /mnt/$2 if [ -e "/media/$2" ] ; then : else ln -s /mnt/$2 /media/$2 fi case $1 in -r) mount -rL$2 /mnt/$2;; -w) mount -wL$2 /mnt/$2 -o noatime;; esac ;; -u) umount "$(blkid -L$2)" rm /media/$2; rmdir /mnt/$2;; --help|-h) echo echo "Usage of /usr/local/sbin/lmount" echo echo "mount read-only" echo " lmount -r " echo "mount read/write noatime" echo " lmount -w " echo "unmount" echo " lmount -u " echo ;; esac exit [rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ cat /usr/local/bin/tmount #!/bin/sh # /usr/local/bin/tmount case $1 in --help|-h) echo echo "Usage of /usr/local/bin/tmount" echo echo "mount read-only" echo " tmount -r " echo "mount read/write noatime" echo " tmount -w " echo "unmount" echo " tmount -u " echo; exit;; -u) gksudo "lmount $*";; *) gksudo "lmount $*"; thunar /mnt/$2; gksudo "lmount -u $2";; esac exit Regards, Ralf -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1369903837.3138.75.camel@archlinux
Re: User unable to umount
On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 10:50:37AM CEST, Ralf Mardorf said: > On Thu, 2013-05-30 at 09:05 +0200, Erwan David wrote: > > Hi have following line in my /etc/fstab > > //server/dir /mnt/dir cifs > > defaults,user,noauto,sec=krb50 0 > > > > mounting works flawlessly, unsing the ticket obtained through pam_krb5 at > > login. > > > > However > > > > umount /mnt/it leads to : > > > > umount: only root can unmount //server/dir from /mnt/dir > > > > There is no point to allowing user to mount but forbiding them yo umount > > the directory they mounted. > > > > DO someone have an idea on this problem, or should I report a bug against > > umount ? > > You can use tools to mount and unmount as user, e.g. gvfs, something > that I've got removed from my Linux. What's edited in fstab isn't > mounted by the user. A regular mount and umount can only be done by > root. That's what the user option in fstab is for. The fact here is to allow cifs authentication using kerberos credentials, thus the mount must be done by the user. And it works well, except for unmounting... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130530085904.ga4...@rail.eu.org
Re: User unable to umount
On Thu, 2013-05-30 at 10:59 +0200, Erwan David wrote: > On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 10:50:37AM CEST, Ralf Mardorf > said: > > On Thu, 2013-05-30 at 09:05 +0200, Erwan David wrote: > > > Hi have following line in my /etc/fstab > > > //server/dir /mnt/dir cifs > > > defaults,user,noauto,sec=krb50 0 > > > > > > mounting works flawlessly, unsing the ticket obtained through pam_krb5 at > > > login. > > > > > > However > > > > > > umount /mnt/it leads to : > > > > > > umount: only root can unmount //server/dir from /mnt/dir > > > > > > There is no point to allowing user to mount but forbiding them yo umount > > > the directory they mounted. > > > > > > DO someone have an idea on this problem, or should I report a bug against > > > umount ? > > > > You can use tools to mount and unmount as user, e.g. gvfs, something > > that I've got removed from my Linux. What's edited in fstab isn't > > mounted by the user. A regular mount and umount can only be done by > > root. > > That's what the user option in fstab is for. The fact here is to allow > cifs authentication using kerberos credentials, thus the mount must be > done by the user. > > And it works well, except for unmounting... I don't know this tool, but note, this tool seems to mount on a very low system level, while gvfs is a tool used with GUI file browsers. You shouldn't be allowed to simply unmount something on a low system level, when you're running a multi-user OS. I don't know what kind of security rules gvfs and what kind of rules this thingy here does use, but I suspect it's not that easy just to check, if a mounted dir is in use. Once it's mounted and a user has permission, e.g. by a group, to mount and use mounted dirs, then it could be, that a user planed to start a script in some minutes, that does need the mounted dir, so it wouldn't be ok, if another user is allowed to unmount this dir. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1369906233.3138.85.camel@archlinux
Re: User unable to umount
On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 11:30:33AM CEST, Ralf Mardorf said: > On Thu, 2013-05-30 at 10:59 +0200, Erwan David wrote: > > On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 10:50:37AM CEST, Ralf Mardorf > > said: > > > On Thu, 2013-05-30 at 09:05 +0200, Erwan David wrote: > > > > Hi have following line in my /etc/fstab > > > > //server/dir /mnt/dir cifs > > > > defaults,user,noauto,sec=krb50 0 > > > > > > > > mounting works flawlessly, unsing the ticket obtained through pam_krb5 > > > > at login. > > > > > > > > However > > > > > > > > umount /mnt/it leads to : > > > > > > > > umount: only root can unmount //server/dir from /mnt/dir > > > > > > > > There is no point to allowing user to mount but forbiding them yo > > > > umount the directory they mounted. > > > > > > > > DO someone have an idea on this problem, or should I report a bug > > > > against umount ? > > > > > > You can use tools to mount and unmount as user, e.g. gvfs, something > > > that I've got removed from my Linux. What's edited in fstab isn't > > > mounted by the user. A regular mount and umount can only be done by > > > root. > > > > That's what the user option in fstab is for. The fact here is to allow > > cifs authentication using kerberos credentials, thus the mount must be > > done by the user. > > > > And it works well, except for unmounting... > > I don't know this tool, but note, this tool seems to mount on a very low > system level, while gvfs is a tool used with GUI file browsers. > > You shouldn't be allowed to simply unmount something on a low system > level, when you're running a multi-user OS. > > I don't know what kind of security rules gvfs and what kind of rules > this thingy here does use, but I suspect it's not that easy just to > check, if a mounted dir is in use. Once it's mounted and a user has > permission, e.g. by a group, to mount and use mounted dirs, then it > could be, that a user planed to start a script in some minutes, that > does need the mounted dir, so it wouldn't be ok, if another user is > allowed to unmount this dir. That's a standard Unix tool, and I think it is a posix behaviour. The settings must be in fstab with the specific "user" option. I do not use gvs (nor any g*) because of dependdencies and I do not trust it. As a grpahical tool I use smb4k, but it seems unable to do kerberos authentication nor automatically mount a mount point at start of session -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130530095006.gb4...@rail.eu.org
Re: User unable to umount
On 30/05/13 10:50, Erwan David wrote: On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 11:30:33AM CEST, Ralf Mardorf said: On Thu, 2013-05-30 at 10:59 +0200, Erwan David wrote: On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 10:50:37AM CEST, Ralf Mardorf said: On Thu, 2013-05-30 at 09:05 +0200, Erwan David wrote: Hi have following line in my /etc/fstab //server/dir /mnt/dir cifs defaults,user,noauto,sec=krb50 0 mounting works flawlessly, unsing the ticket obtained through pam_krb5 at login. However umount /mnt/it leads to : umount: only root can unmount //server/dir from /mnt/dir There is no point to allowing user to mount but forbiding them yo umount the directory they mounted. DO someone have an idea on this problem, or should I report a bug against umount ? You can use tools to mount and unmount as user, e.g. gvfs, something that I've got removed from my Linux. What's edited in fstab isn't mounted by the user. A regular mount and umount can only be done by root. That's what the user option in fstab is for. The fact here is to allow cifs authentication using kerberos credentials, thus the mount must be done by the user. And it works well, except for unmounting... I don't know this tool, but note, this tool seems to mount on a very low system level, while gvfs is a tool used with GUI file browsers. You shouldn't be allowed to simply unmount something on a low system level, when you're running a multi-user OS. I don't know what kind of security rules gvfs and what kind of rules this thingy here does use, but I suspect it's not that easy just to check, if a mounted dir is in use. Once it's mounted and a user has permission, e.g. by a group, to mount and use mounted dirs, then it could be, that a user planed to start a script in some minutes, that does need the mounted dir, so it wouldn't be ok, if another user is allowed to unmount this dir. That's a standard Unix tool, and I think it is a posix behaviour. The settings must be in fstab with the specific "user" option. I do not use gvs (nor any g*) because of dependdencies and I do not trust it. As a grpahical tool I use smb4k, but it seems unable to do kerberos authentication nor automatically mount a mount point at start of session Erwan, although I don't have anything cifs set up, I do use the "user" option in fstab. And with both, local disc partitions (ext4) or NFS partitions, it works as you and I expect it to work: a user can mount and unmount those partitions. Just guessing now, but could your issues have something to do with the specifics of the cifs protocol? -- Klaus -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/51a733d4.2050...@gmail.com
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Re: strange authentication request (GNOME)
On Thu, 30 May 2013 09:38:11 +0100
Matej Kosik <5764c029b688c1c0d24a2e97cd7...@gmail.com> wrote:
>GNOME & KDE somewhat increase the fragmentation.
I'm (reasonably) sure they're not the only people of working to their
own end.
{snip}
>as if, GNOME was somehow special and deserved special treatment. :-/
Well, they obviously think so. ;-)
>Imagine, what would happen if everybody behaved this way...
I shudder at the thought.
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Re: strange authentication request (GNOME)
On Thu, 2013-05-30 at 12:09 +0100, Brad Rogers wrote:
> On Thu, 30 May 2013 09:38:11 +0100
> Matej Kosik <5764c029b688c1c0d24a2e97cd7...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >GNOME & KDE somewhat increase the fragmentation.
>
> I'm (reasonably) sure they're not the only people of working to their
> own end.
>
> {snip}
> >as if, GNOME was somehow special and deserved special treatment. :-/
>
> Well, they obviously think so. ;-)
>
> >Imagine, what would happen if everybody behaved this way...
>
> I shudder at the thought.
A black humour lol.
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Installation of tdsodbc triggers removal of KDE due to dependency on libiodbc2
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, I upgraded my Squeeze VM setup to Wheezy and found a problem that I can't seem to solve. I use ODBC (tdsodbc) but when dist-upgrading, I had some problems with odbcinst1debian2. I don't recall the exact error message as I solved the problem by removing tdsodbc after which I upgraded my system. The system works fine and dpkg --audit didn't show any problems. Furthermore, I develop in Kate (yes I know, I use vim for config editing but not for programming :)) When I wanted to install tdsodbc again, apt wants to get rid of Kate and KDE. After closer inspection, it seems that tdsodbc conflicts with libiodbc2. But soprano-daemon depends on libiodbc2, and kde depends on soprano. How do I solve this? I can't install tdsodbc to get my work done. Both my webservers have tdsodbc installed but there I haven't gotten a conflict as there is no graphical environment installed. Apparently there a bugs filled for this (#645726, #639817, #703047, #639300), but I can't seem to detect what the solution is. Steve Langasek explains the problem in one of the bug reports: "The lack of 100% compatibility between iODBC and unixODBC is another issue; it's one that could be solved if there were a good reason to keep two ODBC driver managers in the archive, but there isn't. Thus we should just get rid of libiodbc; but this is currently blocked on soprano's lack of compatibility with unixodbc" libiodbc might get dropped in the future. There are 2 solutions I can think of although it has been a long time since I have done something similar and thus need a refresher :) 1. Download the source package of soprano-daemon to rebuild it to not depend on iodbc. 2. Extract the soprano-daemon deb and change the dependency on iodbc, then rebuild the package and install it. I'm not sure one of these will work or even if they are working solutions. The first seems difficult as the code of soprano-daemon might not be coded in a way to work with anything other than iodbc. 2nd solution won't work if soprano is indeed only set to work with iodbc, and the interfaces of iodbc and unixODBC differ enough. Any advice would be great, as I'm stuck. Thanks in advance, Regards, Benedict - -- Benedict Verheyen Debian, Python and Django user GnuPG Public Key 0x712CBB8D -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlGnTNIACgkQ6YPsX3Esu40OegCgqDwwdvh+KpcU3YXyD2y0Cxdz zQkAoOHVO3EIlJPppRdRih3RkrXPgniY =77+P -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/ko7icd$tbr$1...@ger.gmane.org
Bitmap font is rendered with overlapping characters
Hi, I am trying to use a bitmap font, but it has overlapping characters in the console in X. http://s21.postimg.org/leqlgxoyv/Capture.png My ~./fonts.config looks like this: http://pastebin.com/P8qVZmYG How can I fix this please? Regards, Sladi
Re: Bitmap font is rendered with overlapping characters
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WDIDLE.EXE use on WD10EZRX disk
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Debian on Intel Next Unit of Computing
debian-user: Does Debian run on the Intel Next Unit of Computing platform? http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/motherboards/desktop-motherboards/nuc.html I don't see any traditional HDD ports, but I do see "Full-size mini PCI Express* with mSATA support". I assume I will need an mSATA SDD, such as the Intel 525 Series? http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/solid-state-drives/solid-state-drives-525-series.html David -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/51a7b32d.8030...@holgerdanske.com
Re: WDIDLE.EXE use on WD10EZRX disk
On Thu, 30 May 2013 12:34:58 -0700 Gary Roach wrote: > Hi all, > I have found multiple warnings about Linux and the short head parking > time of the WD Green drives. I have seen multiple instances of the use > of the wdidle.exe package to reset this to say 30 seconds. But Western > Digital emphatically states that that utility in only for about 3 > "not-WD10EZRX" drives. Is this utility safe to use on the drive in > question or not? Hi. It's really simple - do you have the source code of this wdidle.exe utility? What about running this wdidle.exe on Linux? If both are 'yes', well, good for you. If both are 'no' - for all you know, it WILL brick your harddrive, steal all food from your fridge, and will do unspeakable things to kittens. Never use this thing. Instead, go to http://idle3-tools.sourceforge.net/, and get yourself an excellent idle3-tools, which is the free software, and actually works. I've used it myself to disable this questionable head parking on WDC WD7500AARS-00Y5B1 with success. Reco. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130531001925.1657cd6df23b47cb76b54...@gmail.com
Re: Debian on Intel Next Unit of Computing
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Re: User unable to umount
On Thu, 30 May 2013 11:50:06 +0200 Erwan David wrote: > I do not use gvs (nor any g*) because of dependdencies and I do not trust it. > > As a grpahical tool I use smb4k, but it seems unable to do kerberos > authentication nor automatically mount a mount point at start of > session Hi. Looks like you've been hit by Debian bug #660431: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=660431 Basically, umount.cifs and possibly other umount helpers are deliberately broken upstream to comply with some obscure systemd design oddity. A workaround seems to be: a) umount cifs filesystem b) remove symlink /etc/mtab c) create an empty file /etc/mtab d) mount cifs filesystem In my case I said 'screw this', and started using smbnetfs, which: a) Definitely can be used without root and /etc/fstab entries. b) Features automatic mounting and un-mounting cifs filesystems. Reco -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130531004425.c136ac82da106d8228445...@gmail.com
WDIDLE.EXE use on WD10EZRX disk
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Re: WDIDLE.EXE use on WD10EZRX disk
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Re: WDIDLE.EXE use on WD10EZRX disk
On 31/05/13 08:19, recovery...@gmail.com wrote: > It's really simple - do you have the source code of this wdidle.exe > utility? What about running this wdidle.exe on Linux? > If both are 'yes', well, good for you. > If both are 'no' - for all you know, it WILL brick your harddrive, > steal all food from your fridge, and will do unspeakable things to > kittens. On 31/05/13 08:57, Slavko wrote: > Hi, > > Dňa 30.05.2013 22:19 recovery...@gmail.com wrote / napísal(a): >> it WILL brick your harddrive, >> steal all food from your fridge, and will do unspeakable things to >> kittens. That's a dangerously selective quote. The "for all you know, " is rather significant. Richard -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/51a7d7a0.3090...@walnut.gen.nz
Re: WDIDLE.EXE use on WD10EZRX disk
On Thursday 30 May 2013 23:50:08 Richard Hector wrote: > On 31/05/13 08:19, recovery...@gmail.com wrote: > > It's really simple - do you have the source code of this wdidle.exe > > utility? What about running this wdidle.exe on Linux? > > If both are 'yes', well, good for you. > > If both are 'no' - for all you know, it WILL brick your harddrive, > > steal all food from your fridge, and will do unspeakable things to > > kittens. > > On 31/05/13 08:57, Slavko wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Dňa 30.05.2013 22:19 recovery...@gmail.com wrote / napísal(a): > >> it WILL brick your harddrive, > >> steal all food from your fridge, and will do unspeakable things to > >> kittens. > > That's a dangerously selective quote. The "for all you know, " is rather > significant. Oh, come off it! Dangerous? All he said was that the choice of those particular words, that particular mode of expression had made his evening. "for all you know", as words, did not tickle his fancy. Why on earth is that a dangerous statement? Slavko - I loved that bit too. But then words and language fascinate me! Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201305310003.30168.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: WDIDLE.EXE use on WD10EZRX disk
On 31/05/13 11:03, Lisi Reisz wrote: >> That's a dangerously selective quote. The "for all you know, " is rather >> > significant. > Oh, come off it! Dangerous? All he said was that the choice of those > particular words, that particular mode of expression had made his > evening. "for all you know", as words, did not tickle his fancy. Why on > earth is that a dangerous statement? Yeah, overreaction I guess. And I possibly extrapolated "those words ..." to "the meaning of those words ...", rather than the words themselves. Oh, and I struggled a little with the choice of the word 'dangerous'; it was probably the wrong one. My thought was around the attribution to Reco of an accusation (that was not made) that WD would ship a utility that would brick your hard drive - arguably slander/libel/defamation of some kind. Richard -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/51a7de7b.2000...@walnut.gen.nz
Re: WDIDLE.EXE use on WD10EZRX disk
On 05/30/2013 04:19 PM, Richard Hector wrote: On 31/05/13 11:03, Lisi Reisz wrote: That's a dangerously selective quote. The "for all you know, " is rather significant. Oh, come off it! Dangerous? All he said was that the choice of those particular words, that particular mode of expression had made his evening. "for all you know", as words, did not tickle his fancy. Why on earth is that a dangerous statement? Yeah, overreaction I guess. And I possibly extrapolated "those words ..." to "the meaning of those words ...", rather than the words themselves. Oh, and I struggled a little with the choice of the word 'dangerous'; it was probably the wrong one. My thought was around the attribution to Reco of an accusation (that was not made) that WD would ship a utility that would brick your hard drive - arguably slander/libel/defamation of some kind. Richard Come on people. Answers, answers, answers. And some objective evidence to support your conclusions, please. Oh yes - the software comes directly off of the Western Digital web site and you have to install Wine to run it since it a Windoz application. Several people on blogs have recommended its use but WD says don't. Gary R. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/51a7e9a1.40...@verizon.net
Re: WDIDLE.EXE use on WD10EZRX disk
On May 30, 2013, at 7:06 PM, Gary Roach wrote: > Several people on blogs have recommended its use but WD says don't. I'm sorry I don't have an actual answer from personal experience, but I would like to think if WD says not to use it, then I would probably avoid it. Noah -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/25157304-3b29-4148-a7f7-b081ba2fc...@fastmail.fm
Re: /etc/shadow password hash format (migration from SuSE 9.3 to Debian Wheezy)
On Tue, 28 May 2013, Andreas Meile wrote: > I tried that out on a lab system where I replaced pam_unix.so into > pam_unix2.so inside both common-auth and common-password config > files. > > Result: The system nows recognizes all $2a$ (Blowfish) password > hashes but does not longer accepts $6$ (SHA-512) password now. Use both at the same time to check credentials, and only pam_unix to change credentials (to migrate to sha-512 over time). But be very careful on how you stack them, or you will create a nasty security hole. I strongly suggest you do a very through reading of the PAM documentation before you attempt this. -- "One disk to rule them all, One disk to find them. One disk to bring them all and in the darkness grind them. In the Land of Redmond where the shadows lie." -- The Silicon Valley Tarot Henrique Holschuh -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130531011850.ga32...@khazad-dum.debian.net
Re: WDIDLE.EXE use on WD10EZRX disk
On Thu, 2013-05-30 at 12:33 -0700, Gary Roach wrote: > I have found multiple warnings about Linux and the short head parking > time of the WD Green drives. Again that misinformation :(. The only issue is bad Linux code, e.g. gvfs makes them spin down and up again and again, but if you remove gvfs, than they stay parked! It's not an issue caused by WD, it's an EU Regulation and Linux coders simply ignore it! My file browser is Thunar, without gvfs just mounting doesn't work anymore, but mounting by CLI still works ;). Regards, Ralf -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1369963636.970.37.camel@archlinux
Re: WDIDLE.EXE use on WD10EZRX disk
On Fri, 2013-05-31 at 03:27 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Thu, 2013-05-30 at 12:33 -0700, Gary Roach wrote: > > I have found multiple warnings about Linux and the short head parking > > time of the WD Green drives. > > Again that misinformation :(. > > The only issue is bad Linux code, e.g. gvfs makes them spin down and up > again and again, but if you remove gvfs, than they stay parked! > > It's not an issue caused by WD, it's an EU Regulation and Linux coders > simply ignore it! > > My file browser is Thunar, without gvfs just mounting doesn't work > anymore, but mounting by CLI still works ;). > > Regards, > Ralf PS: Without gvfs the heads for my WD will park after 30 minutes and spin up only happens, if you touch the drive. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1369964060.970.40.camel@archlinux
Jessies hassles. libc6, software-properites-gtk, sessions.
Greetings, everybody. I wonder who else sees this at the moment on systems running Jessie. I know that running the testing version will require bug fixing sometimes, I don't mind that. I just need some help to understand what's wrong. I am running XCFE4, some of the problems I see may be specific to that, but not all. I needed some updated libraries from Jessie, so I enabled that repository and tried to get just a few libraries. However, the dependency list was pretty large. When synaptic tried to update libc6, it paused with the warning that said xscreensaver or xlockmore is running, if you don't stop that, then users won't be able to log in. It pauses while you kill that, so I killed xscreensaver, the install proceeded, seemed fine. But, guess what? The user I was logged in under when the install occurred still can't complete the login. The X session tries to start, but then closes immediately. It crashes back to the login screen. Other users can log in, which is nice, because I can go in and see the config files for the troubled user. If I had the problem that the libc6 installer warning was warning me about, how would I know and how would I fix it? I've found some stupid hacks that don't solve the problem, but work around it. Log in as somebody else, eliminate the $HOME/.cache folder in the troubled user account, then the trouble user can log in, however, after logging out, some bad crap is written in .cache again, and the user can no longer log in. Something's clearly wrong, I have no idea. Here's another tidbit, maybe I'm seeing something more generally wrong with gtk or libc. I run synaptic, but when I try to view the repositories, synaptic refuses, and says "The repository information has changed. You have to click on the "Reload" button for your changes to take effect" That happens over and over, after reloading. I've learned that this happens because synaptic is trying to launch software-properties-gtk, which no longer works. Here's it from a terminal. pauljohn@pjlap-d7:~$ software-properties-gtk Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/bin/software-properties-gtk", line 38, in from softwareproperties.gtk.SoftwarePropertiesGtk import SoftwarePropertiesGtk File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/softwareproperties/gtk/SoftwarePropertiesGtk.py", line 39, in from DialogCacheOutdated import DialogCacheOutdated File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/softwareproperties/gtk/DialogCacheOutdated.py", line 27, in import aptdaemon.client File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/aptdaemon/client.py", line 70, in class MemoizedMixIn(MemoizedTransaction, GObject.GObjectMeta): File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/gi/module.py", line 316, in __getattr__ return getattr(self._introspection_module, name) File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/gi/module.py", line 135, in __getattr__ self.__name__, name)) AttributeError: 'gi.repository.GObject' object has no attribute 'GObjectMeta' I'm wondering if I'm looking Jessie updates that will stabilize soon-ish, or if I have something broken that I need to try to fix. So I'm open to suggestions. pj -- Paul E. Johnson Professor, Political Science Assoc. Director 1541 Lilac Lane, Room 504 Center for Research Methods University of Kansas University of Kansas http://pj.freefaculty.org http://quant.ku.edu
