Re: "su" - timeout for dbus/system_bus_socket if $DISPLAY set but unreachable
On 16.03.2013 05:45, Bob Proulx wrote:
>> The problem is that "su" takes 25 seconds before it succeeds.
>
> That sounds like a DNS timeout. If you do a dns lookup of your
> systems hostname does it respond?
# nslookup localhost
Name: localhost
Address: 127.0.0.1
# nslookup 127.0.0.1
1.0.0.127.in-addr.arpa name = localhost.
# nslookup baldur
** server can't find baldur: NXDOMAIN
# nslookup baldur.asgard
** server can't find baldur.asgard: NXDOMAIN
# ping baldur
PING baldur.asgard (127.0.1.1) 56(84) bytes of data.
> Look in /etc/hosts and look for (at least) these lines:
# grep 127. /etc/hosts
127.0.0.1 localhost
127.0.1.1 baldur.asgard baldur
> Because PAM often logs the hostname to the system log and does
> other such DNS lookups.
Can I disable reverse DNS lookup?
>> Using strace I think I identified the problem:
>>> connect(4, {sa_family=AF_FILE,
>> path="/var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket"}, 33) = 0
>>> ... poll([{fd=4, events=POLLIN}], 1, 25000) = 0 (Timeout)
>>> <25.028989>
>>
>> I can skip the timeout if I do either of these two things:
>> Solution 1) run X server on 10.0.2.2 (Xming) Solution 2) unset
>> $DISPLAY
>
> If you dns lookup 10.0.2.2 does it resolve? Quickly or after a
> longer timeout?
# nslookup 10.0.2.2
** server can't find 2.2.0.10.in-addr.arpa.: NXDOMAIN
# ping 10.0.2.2
PING 10.0.2.2 (10.0.2.2) 56(84) bytes of data.
# ping wotan
ping: unknown host wotan
C's getnameinfo() returns: "Name or service not known"
But as it is a private IP, why should there be a DNS? Wouldnt everyone
have the same problem if they dont set up their own BIND or hosts file?
I have added the remote hostname to /etc:
# grep wotan /etc/hosts
10.0.2.2 wotan.asgard wotan
Of course I only get the following changes:
# ping wotan
PING wotan.asgard (10.0.2.2) 56(84) bytes of data.
C's getnameinfo() returns: wotan.asgard
Though no change in the behaviour of "su", still a 25 seconds timeout
before it succeeds.
In the output of strace I can see that /something/ happens with
libnss, so DNS lookup. But unfortunately I am unable to tell what it
is. But there seems not to be any timeout related to DNS.
Any use of posting a full strace log? I dont think so.
> Hopefully someone else will have a better suggestion.
Thank you anyways. Getting any response is always good, instead of
being ignored completely :)
Sven.
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Re: VPN Connections
On 15 Mar 2013, Verde Denim wrote: > Am I correct in assuming that in order to setup a vpn connection on > wheezy i need to install vpnc (or open-connect) ? > > -- > Regards > > Jack I've posted an account of my own experience setting up a tunnel in Debian to a vpn server in linux at http://www.acampbell.org.uk/linux/vpn.html. This is for a pptp server; I don't know if that is what you are trying to do, but in any case it may be adaptable to what you need. Regards, Amthony -- Anthony Campbell - a...@acampbell.org.uk http://www.acampbell.org.uk http://www.reviewbooks.org.uk http://www.skepticviews.org.uk http://www.acupuncturecourse.org.uk http://www.smashwords.com/profile.view/acampbell https://itunes.apple.com/ca/artist/anthony-campbell/id73235412 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130316091534.gg28...@acampbell.org.uk
Wheezy issue with broadcom 5720 nic on new dell PowerEdge R720
Hi List, I've run into an issue trying to install a new PowerEdge R720 server that arrived this week. It is equipped with a broadcom 5720 quad port network interface daughter card. I installed wheezy on it. No problems! The network interface works, and does not require any non-free firmware. Then I installed a xen kernel, and because of that update-initramfs was ran. I noticed these warnings: root@server:~# update-initramfs -uk all update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-3.2.0-4-amd64 W: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/tigon/tg3_tso5.bin for module tg3 W: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/tigon/tg3_tso.bin for module tg3 W: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/tigon/tg3.bin for module tg3 These files are listed in the firmware-linux-nonfree package description for squeeze, I thought I'd give this package a try and install it. From that moment on eth0 is not working anymore. I get these kernel messages: [ 1796.583881] tg3 :01:00.0: eth0: transmit timed out, resetting [ 1797.840909] tg3 :01:00.0: eth0: 0x: 0x165f14e4, 0x00100406, 0x0200, 0x00800010 [ 1797.841066] tg3 :01:00.0: eth0: 0x0010: 0xd91a000c, 0x, 0xd91b000c, 0x [ 1797.935588] tg3 :01:00.0: eth0: 0x7030: 0x000e, 0x486c, 0x00170030, 0x [ 1797.935745] tg3 :01:00.0: eth0: 0: Host status block [0005:0003:(::):(:)] [ 1797.935911] tg3 :01:00.0: eth0: 0: NAPI info [0003:0003:(::01ff)::(00e9:::)] [ 1797.936070] tg3 :01:00.0: eth0: 1: Host status block [0001:001c:(::):(001b:)] [ 1797.936226] tg3 :01:00.0: eth0: 1: NAPI info [000c:000c:(::01ff):000b:(000b:000b::)] [ 1797.936383] tg3 :01:00.0: eth0: 2: Host status block [0001:0003:(0002::):(:)] [ 1797.936540] tg3 :01:00.0: eth0: 2: NAPI info [0001:0001:(0001::01ff)::(:::)] [ 1797.936697] tg3 :01:00.0: eth0: 3: Host status block [0001:000e:(::):(:)] [ 1797.936853] tg3 :01:00.0: eth0: 3: NAPI info [000c:000c:(::01ff):000b:(000b:000b::)] [ 1797.937012] tg3 :01:00.0: eth0: 4: Host status block [0001:0011:(::0010):(:)] [ 1797.937168] tg3 :01:00.0: eth0: 4: NAPI info [000c:000c:(::01ff):000b:(000b:000b::)] [ 1797.980164] tg3 :01:00.0: eth0: Link is down [ 1802.092252] tg3 :01:00.0: eth0: Link is up at 1000 Mbps, full duplex [ 1802.092257] tg3 :01:00.0: eth0: Flow control is on for TX and on for RX [ 1802.092261] tg3 :01:00.0: eth0: EEE is disabled [ 1807.591630] tg3 :01:00.0: eth0: transmit timed out, resetting ... and so on I tried the debian installer again, but even then it's not able to get a DHCP IP address using eth0. eth1 is working fine. I booted back into the machine, purged the firmware-linux-nonfree package and am currently using eth1, that is still working: [ 1856.825856] tg3 :01:00.1: eth1: Link is up at 1000 Mbps, full duplex Now what happened? My *guess* is that the Broadcom 5720 for some reason is detected as one of these cards * Broadcom BCM5703/BCM5704 TSO firmware for tigon/tg3_tso.bin) * Broadcom BCM5701A0 firmware (tigon/tg3.bin) * Broadcom BCM5705 TSO firmware (tigon/tg3_tso5.bin) Then it loads that firmware blob onto the network card, breaking it. And now what? I have a bricked eth0. I really like to repair before the machine goes into production. Suggestions anyone? Should a debian package be fixed? It appears that the Broadcom 5720 does not need a firmware blob to operate. http://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/firmware/linux-firmware.git/tree/tigon has the same files as the firmware-linux-nonfree package plus one added 7 days ago for '57766 cards'. So nothing important there. There must be some code somewhere that decides what firmware to use. Possibly the tg3.ko driver in linux-image-3.2.0-4-amd64? Hope you can help me and avoid more broken Broadcom 5720's. Greetings, Casper
using microphone
Hello. I am trying to use my microphone (with skype and mumble) but was not able to make it working. I tried all entries in the fields to select input, but no results every time. I have removed the mute in alsamixer and the micro works correctly. I mean, if I speak in it, I can hear my own voice stronger, so it probably works (but there is an echo for a reason I do not know. This will be annoying if it persists, but my first goal is to be able to use the micro, annoying things I can fix later). In mumble and skype, when trying to select input device, I have a long list rather unreadable for me, with info like card=SB (I guess it means SoundBlaster), DEV=0 or DEV=2 (related to /dev? There are 2 files in /dev/snd/by-path?) and only skeakers/converters/null... but nothing related to microphone AFAIU. The thing I really can not understand is why I have 2 sounds cards (also in /proc/asound/cards) but I have not added any in my computer (the only related NVidia stuff I have are graphic cards) so I wonder why there are 2 of them (and I am afraid by the NVidia one, to be honest). __ lspci -k (but only stuff with 'Audio' in description): 00:14.2 Audio device: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA) (rev 40) Subsystem: ASRock Incorporation Device 0887 Kernel driver in use: snd_hda_intel 01:00.1 Audio device: NVIDIA Corporation High Definition Audio Controller (rev a1) Subsystem: CardExpert Technology Device 1401 Kernel driver in use: snd_hda_intel __ cat /dev/sndstat (I have no idea about what means those info btw, just thought it could help): Sound Driver:3.8.1a-980706 (ALSA v1.0.24 emulation code) Kernel: Linux deskber 3.2.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.2.39-2 x86_64 Config options: 0 Installed drivers: Type 10: ALSA emulation Card config: HDA ATI SB at 0xfb10 irq 16 HDA NVidia at 0xfd08 irq 19 Audio devices: NOT ENABLED IN CONFIG Synth devices: NOT ENABLED IN CONFIG Midi devices: NOT ENABLED IN CONFIG Timers: 31: system timer Mixers: NOT ENABLED IN CONFIG __ cat /proc/asound/cards 0 [SB ]: HDA-Intel - HDA ATI SB HDA ATI SB at 0xfb10 irq 16 1 [NVidia ]: HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia HDA NVidia at 0xfd08 irq 19 __ $ cat devices 1:: sequencer 2: [ 0- 2]: digital audio capture 3: [ 0- 1]: digital audio playback 4: [ 0- 0]: digital audio playback 5: [ 0- 0]: digital audio capture 6: [ 0- 0]: hardware dependent 7: [ 0] : control 8: [ 1- 9]: digital audio playback 9: [ 1- 8]: digital audio playback 10: [ 1- 7]: digital audio playback 11: [ 1- 3]: digital audio playback 12: [ 1- 3]: hardware dependent 13: [ 1- 2]: hardware dependent 14: [ 1- 1]: hardware dependent 15: [ 1- 0]: hardware dependent 16: [ 1] : control 33:: timer __ I think this message may lack informations, but I have no idea about what I can give except those one... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/f581da32c0b6b2b03df406d63545d...@neutralite.org
Re: SSDT - Any more ideas??
On Fri, 15 Mar 2013, Erwan David wrote: > It seems SSDT is a BIOS thing dealing with power management... Why > incriminate Debian when you get same error in booting windows ? SSDT is a "suplementary" ACPI methods table. As long as everything works fine, your laptop might just have a DSDT (the "primary" ACPI methods table) and no SSDTs. It is still weird, though. Try to update the BIOS on that laptop to the latest released by the manufacturer. -- "One disk to rule them all, One disk to find them. One disk to bring them all and in the darkness grind them. In the Land of Redmond where the shadows lie." -- The Silicon Valley Tarot Henrique Holschuh -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130316135105.gb29...@khazad-dum.debian.net
Re: using microphone
On Sat, 2013-03-16 at 14:47 +0100, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: > but there is an echo for a reason I do not know It seemingly is latency. You speak into the mic and what you hear has some delay compared with your "real" voice? That has to do with the buffering of audio and depends to the used hardware and the (possible) settings for the buffering, when using this hardware. If you use jack, than you can set the buffering by a GUI called qjackctl. The latency depends to the settings of "Frames/Period", "Sample Rate" and "Periods/Buffer". Don't play around with "Periods/Buffer", for professional cards keep the value at 2 and for your on-board thingy I suspect you need to increase it to 3. Decrease "Frames/Period" and/or increase "Sample Rate" to lower the latency. http://www.alonsoruibal.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/qjackctl.png To get more advanced help, if needed subscribe to http://lists.linuxaudio.org/listinfo/linux-audio-user -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1363444861.19266.235.camel@archlinux
Re: using microphone
Le 16.03.2013 15:41, Ralf Mardorf a écrit : On Sat, 2013-03-16 at 14:47 +0100, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: but there is an echo for a reason I do not know It seemingly is latency. You speak into the mic and what you hear has some delay compared with your "real" voice? That has to do with the buffering of audio and depends to the used hardware and the (possible) settings for the buffering, when using this hardware. If you use jack, than you can set the buffering by a GUI called qjackctl. The latency depends to the settings of "Frames/Period", "Sample Rate" and "Periods/Buffer". Don't play around with "Periods/Buffer", for professional cards keep the value at 2 and for your on-board thingy I suspect you need to increase it to 3. Decrease "Frames/Period" and/or increase "Sample Rate" to lower the latency. http://www.alonsoruibal.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/qjackctl.png To get more advanced help, if needed subscribe to http://lists.linuxaudio.org/listinfo/linux-audio-user Thanks for the information, I'll take a look at it for knowledge, but, no, there is no latency at all, I just hear my voice amplified. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/7740167197e04e4d2e16fdeb5cc8f...@neutralite.org
Re: using microphone
On 16/03/13 09:47 AM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Hello. I am trying to use my microphone (with skype and mumble) but was not able to make it working. I tried all entries in the fields to select input, but no results every time. I have removed the mute in alsamixer and the micro works correctly. I mean, if I speak in it, I can hear my own voice stronger, so it probably works (but there is an echo for a reason I do not know. This will be annoying if it persists, but my first goal is to be able to use the micro, annoying things I can fix later). In mumble and skype, when trying to select input device, I have a long list rather unreadable for me, with info like card=SB (I guess it means SoundBlaster), DEV=0 or DEV=2 (related to /dev? There are 2 files in /dev/snd/by-path?) and only skeakers/converters/null... but nothing related to microphone AFAIU. The thing I really can not understand is why I have 2 sounds cards (also in /proc/asound/cards) but I have not added any in my computer (the only related NVidia stuff I have are graphic cards) so I wonder why there are 2 of them (and I am afraid by the NVidia one, to be honest). snipped content I think this message may lack informations, but I have no idea about what I can give except those one... OK, so you've established that your microphone is working. You don't normally want to hear your voice back when you speak into it, so mute the microphone output (but not the input). You should be able to use the sound recorder to still record your voice and play it back but you won't hear it when speaking. Skype has a pulldown menu at the bottom left of the skype window. Select Options | Sound Devices and try the different microphone devices until you find one that works with the Skype test call. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/51448b92.7080...@rogers.com
Re: using microphone
I think this message may lack informations, but I have no idea about what I can give except those one... OK, so you've established that your microphone is working. You don't normally want to hear your voice back when you speak into it, so mute the microphone output (but not the input). You should be able to use the sound recorder to still record your voice and play it back but you won't hear it when speaking. Skype has a pulldown menu at the bottom left of the skype window. Select Options | Sound Devices and try the different microphone devices until you find one that works with the Skype test call. Sounds like I did not explained the problem correctly, so let me retry. I have established that the microphone works, yes, because when I unmute it in alsamixer, I can hear back my voice amplified. But I did not found any way to use it into skype or mumble (I did not tried other softwares). I do not know how to mute only the microphone output but not the input? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/5db046639ed67c97fecf5c1d72cd0...@neutralite.org
Re: using microphone
lspci -v | grep -i "mic" may help. --- jude Microsoft, windows is accessible. why do blind people need screen readers? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/alpine.bsf.2.01.1303161116460.3...@freire1.furyyjbeyq.arg
Re: using microphone
On Sat, 2013-03-16 at 15:54 +0100, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: > > On Sat, 2013-03-16 at 14:47 +0100, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org > > wrote: > >> but there is an echo for a reason I do not know > no, there is no latency at all, I just hear my voice amplified. Then echo does mean you hear your voice two times. One time directly and a second time with some delay? Or there's some kind of reverb? What is "echo" for? Perhaps a feedback? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1363446931.19266.249.camel@archlinux
Re: using microphone
On Sat, 2013-03-16 at 16:14 +0100, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: > >> I think this message may lack informations, but I have no idea about > >> what I can give except those one... > >> > > OK, so you've established that your microphone is working. You don't > > normally want to hear your voice back when you speak into it, so mute > > the microphone output (but not the input). You should be able to use > > the sound recorder to still record your voice and play it back but > > you > > won't hear it when speaking. > > > > Skype has a pulldown menu at the bottom left of the skype window. > > Select Options | Sound Devices and try the different microphone > > devices until you find one that works with the Skype test call. > > Sounds like I did not explained the problem correctly, so let me retry. > > I have established that the microphone works, yes, because when I > unmute it in alsamixer, I can hear back my voice amplified. > But I did not found any way to use it into skype or mumble (I did not > tried other softwares). > > I do not know how to mute only the microphone output but not the input? IIRC you can forget about jack in this case. Is pulseaudio installed? Many skype users report, that they like to use pulseaudio. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1363447106.19266.251.camel@archlinux
Re: using microphone
Le 16.03.2013 16:17, Jude DaShiell a écrit : lspci -v | grep -i "mic" may help. --- jude Microsoft, windows is accessible. why do blind people need screen readers? I think the line you want is this one: 00:14.2 Audio device: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA) (rev 40) but here is the full output: $ lspci -v |grep -i "mic" 00:00.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI RX780/RX790 Chipset Host Bridge 00:02.0 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI RD790 PCI to PCI bridge (external gfx0 port A) (prog-if 00 [Normal decode]) 00:04.0 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI RD790 PCI to PCI bridge (PCI express gpp port A) (prog-if 00 [Normal decode]) 00:0a.0 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI RD790 PCI to PCI bridge (PCI express gpp port F) (prog-if 00 [Normal decode]) 00:11.0 SATA controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 SATA Controller [IDE mode] (rev 40) (prog-if 01 [AHCI 1.0]) 00:12.0 USB controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 USB OHCI0 Controller (prog-if 10 [OHCI]) 00:12.2 USB controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 USB EHCI Controller (prog-if 20 [EHCI]) 00:13.0 USB controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 USB OHCI0 Controller (prog-if 10 [OHCI]) 00:13.2 USB controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 USB EHCI Controller (prog-if 20 [EHCI]) 00:14.0 SMBus: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI SBx00 SMBus Controller (rev 42) 00:14.1 IDE interface: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 IDE Controller (rev 40) (prog-if 8a [Master SecP PriP]) 00:14.2 Audio device: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA) (rev 40) 00:14.3 ISA bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 LPC host controller (rev 40) 00:14.4 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI SBx00 PCI to PCI Bridge (rev 40) (prog-if 01 [Subtractive decode]) 00:14.5 USB controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 USB OHCI2 Controller (prog-if 10 [OHCI]) 00:16.0 USB controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 USB OHCI0 Controller (prog-if 10 [OHCI]) 00:16.2 USB controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 USB EHCI Controller (prog-if 20 [EHCI]) 00:18.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Family 10h Processor HyperTransport Configuration 00:18.1 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Family 10h Processor Address Map 00:18.2 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Family 10h Processor DRAM Controller 00:18.3 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Family 10h Processor Miscellaneous Control 00:18.4 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Family 10h Processor Link Control 03:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller (rev 06) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1dff736ee1c4436098ee9e2cd2f25...@neutralite.org
Re: using microphone
Le 16.03.2013 16:15, Ralf Mardorf a écrit : On Sat, 2013-03-16 at 15:54 +0100, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: > On Sat, 2013-03-16 at 14:47 +0100, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org > wrote: >> but there is an echo for a reason I do not know no, there is no latency at all, I just hear my voice amplified. Then echo does mean you hear your voice two times. One time directly and a second time with some delay? Or there's some kind of reverb? What is "echo" for? Perhaps a feedback? I used the wrong word, I think. I simply hear my voice amplified. Sorry for that. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/8e4638993356287cd9d798a397980...@neutralite.org
Re: using microphone
Le 16.03.2013 16:18, Ralf Mardorf a écrit : On Sat, 2013-03-16 at 16:14 +0100, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: >> I think this message may lack informations, but I have no idea about >> what I can give except those one... >> > OK, so you've established that your microphone is working. You don't > normally want to hear your voice back when you speak into it, so mute > the microphone output (but not the input). You should be able to use > the sound recorder to still record your voice and play it back but > you > won't hear it when speaking. > > Skype has a pulldown menu at the bottom left of the skype window. > Select Options | Sound Devices and try the different microphone > devices until you find one that works with the Skype test call. Sounds like I did not explained the problem correctly, so let me retry. I have established that the microphone works, yes, because when I unmute it in alsamixer, I can hear back my voice amplified. But I did not found any way to use it into skype or mumble (I did not tried other softwares). I do not know how to mute only the microphone output but not the input? IIRC you can forget about jack in this case. Is pulseaudio installed? Many skype users report, that they like to use pulseaudio. I have no jack, and no pulseaudio. Should I install one of those stuff to have my mic working? Sounds strange, I remember another computer with debian I had, where I had not installed one of those and stuff was working? But maybe my memory is wrong. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/720f431e1f8644af50613e9d9bcac...@neutralite.org
Re: SSDT - Any more ideas??
> Dear list - > > When I boot my Debian [6.0.1] I receive a message "SSDT not found." > How do I fix it? > > Thanks. > > Ethan > > Did you check the media that you booted from and make sure that it > passedthe MD5SUM or other test? > > > I bought this laptop from eBay as a used unit. It had Windows XP loaded > when received, and displayed the same problem.. I installed the Debian > from official disks. > > Ethan Ethan, We (the list) like "Good Questions (TM)". Your first question did not qualify, and with the additional information that you provided, it still does not qualify as a Good Question. What we know: you got an error it is a laptop you bought it sight unseen it had Windws XP on it you got the error with XP you installed debian on it you got the same error with Debian Just some of the things that we (the list)don't know, and we need to know to help you solve this problem: how old is it how much memory does it have what is the brand what processor does it have what disk drive does it have and what is its capacity what bios does it have is the bios up to date or is there a newer version abailable Given what little information you have provided we think that: There is perhaps a bios problem the problem is not related to debian or XP since it occurs when you boot either one. It was suggested that you: Go into the bios and reset it to factory default. If that fixes the problem, you are all set. If not, the computer may have a very limited life left. Did you reset the bios? (You did not say if you tried that) Make sure that the computer has the latest verison of the bios installed. Did you check the version of the bios? What is the result of updating the bios? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201303161127.27314.m...@neidorff.com
Re: using microphone
Le 16/03/2013 16:23, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org a écrit : Le 16.03.2013 16:18, Ralf Mardorf a écrit : On Sat, 2013-03-16 at 16:14 +0100, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: >> I think this message may lack informations, but I have no idea about >> what I can give except those one... >> > OK, so you've established that your microphone is working. You don't > normally want to hear your voice back when you speak into it, so mute > the microphone output (but not the input). You should be able to use > the sound recorder to still record your voice and play it back but > you > won't hear it when speaking. > > Skype has a pulldown menu at the bottom left of the skype window. > Select Options | Sound Devices and try the different microphone > devices until you find one that works with the Skype test call. Sounds like I did not explained the problem correctly, so let me retry. I have established that the microphone works, yes, because when I unmute it in alsamixer, I can hear back my voice amplified. But I did not found any way to use it into skype or mumble (I did not tried other softwares). I do not know how to mute only the microphone output but not the input? IIRC you can forget about jack in this case. Is pulseaudio installed? Many skype users report, that they like to use pulseaudio. I have no jack, and no pulseaudio. Should I install one of those stuff to have my mic working? Sounds strange, I remember another computer with debian I had, where I had not installed one of those and stuff was working? But maybe my memory is wrong. My mic works with skype with just alsa. However it seems there is a bug in alsactl restoring levels and the "Capture" Level always is 0 after reboot. You might look in your mixer settings. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/51448f94.7030...@rail.eu.org
Re: using microphone
On Sat, 2013-03-16 at 16:23 +0100, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: > > Le 16.03.2013 16:18, Ralf Mardorf a écrit : > > On Sat, 2013-03-16 at 16:14 +0100, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org > > wrote: > >> >> I think this message may lack informations, but I have no idea > >> about > >> >> what I can give except those one... > >> >> > >> > OK, so you've established that your microphone is working. You > >> don't > >> > normally want to hear your voice back when you speak into it, so > >> mute > >> > the microphone output (but not the input). You should be able to > >> use > >> > the sound recorder to still record your voice and play it back but > >> > you > >> > won't hear it when speaking. > >> > > >> > Skype has a pulldown menu at the bottom left of the skype window. > >> > Select Options | Sound Devices and try the different microphone > >> > devices until you find one that works with the Skype test call. > >> > >> Sounds like I did not explained the problem correctly, so let me > >> retry. > >> > >> I have established that the microphone works, yes, because when I > >> unmute it in alsamixer, I can hear back my voice amplified. > >> But I did not found any way to use it into skype or mumble (I did > >> not > >> tried other softwares). > >> > >> I do not know how to mute only the microphone output but not the > >> input? > > > > IIRC you can forget about jack in this case. Is pulseaudio installed? > > Many skype users report, that they like to use pulseaudio. > > I have no jack, and no pulseaudio. Should I install one of those stuff > to have my mic working? Sounds strange, I remember another computer with > debian I had, where I had not installed one of those and stuff was > working? But maybe my memory is wrong. I can't believe that this are my words: To test it, install pulseaudio, don't use jack. I don't like pulseaudio, it's a PITA for audio production environments, but many people claimed that pulseaudio does help, AFAIR when using skype. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1363447878.19266.254.camel@archlinux
Re: using microphone
Le 16.03.2013 16:28, Erwan David a écrit : Le 16/03/2013 16:23, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org a écrit : Le 16.03.2013 16:18, Ralf Mardorf a écrit : On Sat, 2013-03-16 at 16:14 +0100, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: >> I think this message may lack informations, but I have no idea about >> what I can give except those one... >> > OK, so you've established that your microphone is working. You don't > normally want to hear your voice back when you speak into it, so mute > the microphone output (but not the input). You should be able to use > the sound recorder to still record your voice and play it back but > you > won't hear it when speaking. > > Skype has a pulldown menu at the bottom left of the skype window. > Select Options | Sound Devices and try the different microphone > devices until you find one that works with the Skype test call. Sounds like I did not explained the problem correctly, so let me retry. I have established that the microphone works, yes, because when I unmute it in alsamixer, I can hear back my voice amplified. But I did not found any way to use it into skype or mumble (I did not tried other softwares). I do not know how to mute only the microphone output but not the input? IIRC you can forget about jack in this case. Is pulseaudio installed? Many skype users report, that they like to use pulseaudio. I have no jack, and no pulseaudio. Should I install one of those stuff to have my mic working? Sounds strange, I remember another computer with debian I had, where I had not installed one of those and stuff was working? But maybe my memory is wrong. My mic works with skype with just alsa. However it seems there is a bug in alsactl restoring levels and the "Capture" Level always is 0 after reboot. You might look in your mixer settings. I would prefer manage with such a bug than install softwares I do not really need. If it is a problem of reboot, adding a line in init system should do the work. Now, the question is: what line? I fear I have never used alsactl... but the man is quite encouraging: man alsactl If your card has features that you can't seem to control from a mixer application, you have come to the right place. I will investigate how this software works, but if someone have some advices to give... I'll be grateful to read them :) (I am already grateful that the list helps anyway) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/6ad5dd4db5977b88cbe3936e576ad...@neutralite.org
Re: using microphone
On 16/03/13 09:47 AM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Hello. I am trying to use my microphone (with skype and mumble) but was not able to make it working. I tried all entries in the fields to select input, but no results every time. I have removed the mute in alsamixer and the micro works correctly. I mean, if I speak in it, I can hear my own voice stronger, so it probably works (but there is an echo for a reason I do not know. This will be annoying if it persists, but my first goal is to be able to use the micro, annoying things I can fix later). In mumble and skype, when trying to select input device, I have a long list rather unreadable for me, with info like card=SB (I guess it means SoundBlaster), DEV=0 or DEV=2 (related to /dev? There are 2 files in /dev/snd/by-path?) and only skeakers/converters/null... but nothing related to microphone AFAIU. The thing I really can not understand is why I have 2 sounds cards (also in /proc/asound/cards) but I have not added any in my computer (the only related NVidia stuff I have are graphic cards) so I wonder why there are 2 of them (and I am afraid by the NVidia one, to be honest). snipped content I think this message may lack informations, but I have no idea about what I can give except those one... You're getting a lot of really strange advice here. As you said, your microphone works with Linux on your system. You don't need any additional software. All you need to do is test the various possible microphone devices listed in the Skype Sound Device microphone options until you find one that works. You don't need to understand what they mean. Just try them. One of them will work. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/51449203.50...@rogers.com
Re: using microphone
Le 16.03.2013 16:31, Ralf Mardorf a écrit : On Sat, 2013-03-16 at 16:23 +0100, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Le 16.03.2013 16:18, Ralf Mardorf a écrit : > On Sat, 2013-03-16 at 16:14 +0100, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org > wrote: >> >> I think this message may lack informations, but I have no idea >> about >> >> what I can give except those one... >> >> >> > OK, so you've established that your microphone is working. You >> don't >> > normally want to hear your voice back when you speak into it, so >> mute >> > the microphone output (but not the input). You should be able to >> use >> > the sound recorder to still record your voice and play it back but >> > you >> > won't hear it when speaking. >> > >> > Skype has a pulldown menu at the bottom left of the skype window. >> > Select Options | Sound Devices and try the different microphone >> > devices until you find one that works with the Skype test call. >> >> Sounds like I did not explained the problem correctly, so let me >> retry. >> >> I have established that the microphone works, yes, because when I >> unmute it in alsamixer, I can hear back my voice amplified. >> But I did not found any way to use it into skype or mumble (I did >> not >> tried other softwares). >> >> I do not know how to mute only the microphone output but not the >> input? > > IIRC you can forget about jack in this case. Is pulseaudio installed? > Many skype users report, that they like to use pulseaudio. I have no jack, and no pulseaudio. Should I install one of those stuff to have my mic working? Sounds strange, I remember another computer with debian I had, where I had not installed one of those and stuff was working? But maybe my memory is wrong. I can't believe that this are my words: To test it, install pulseaudio, don't use jack. I don't like pulseaudio, it's a PITA for audio production environments, but many people claimed that pulseaudio does help, AFAIR when using skype. I do not really think this will be necessary. Well, if I must install softwares and/or daemons, I will, but I wish to avoid that. Well, sometimes there is no choice... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/2ba8f9a9822410152536efd0e43bf...@neutralite.org
Re: using microphone
Le 16.03.2013 16:38, Gary Dale a écrit : On 16/03/13 09:47 AM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Hello. I am trying to use my microphone (with skype and mumble) but was not able to make it working. I tried all entries in the fields to select input, but no results every time. I have removed the mute in alsamixer and the micro works correctly. I mean, if I speak in it, I can hear my own voice stronger, so it probably works (but there is an echo for a reason I do not know. This will be annoying if it persists, but my first goal is to be able to use the micro, annoying things I can fix later). In mumble and skype, when trying to select input device, I have a long list rather unreadable for me, with info like card=SB (I guess it means SoundBlaster), DEV=0 or DEV=2 (related to /dev? There are 2 files in /dev/snd/by-path?) and only skeakers/converters/null... but nothing related to microphone AFAIU. The thing I really can not understand is why I have 2 sounds cards (also in /proc/asound/cards) but I have not added any in my computer (the only related NVidia stuff I have are graphic cards) so I wonder why there are 2 of them (and I am afraid by the NVidia one, to be honest). snipped content I think this message may lack informations, but I have no idea about what I can give except those one... You're getting a lot of really strange advice here. As you said, your microphone works with Linux on your system. You don't need any additional software. All you need to do is test the various possible microphone devices listed in the Skype Sound Device microphone options until you find one that works. You don't need to understand what they mean. Just try them. One of them will work. This way is the first one I did. No one seemed to work. This is why I am asking to the list. I also did some quick searches around the web, but I do not know how to search when I have no idea about what is the problem I try to answer, if you see what I mean. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/eef2d0a277c3e6b6614bf333b8e83...@neutralite.org
Re: using microphone
On Sat, 2013-03-16 at 11:38 -0400, Gary Dale wrote: > All you need to do is test the various possible > microphone devices listed in the Skype Sound Device microphone options > until you find one that works. You don't need to understand what they > mean. Just try them. One of them will work. My apologies, it's just that I don't know what pusleaudio is good for and when I asked, skype often was mentioned. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1363448908.19266.266.camel@archlinux
Re: using microphone
Le 16.03.2013 16:48, Ralf Mardorf a écrit : On Sat, 2013-03-16 at 11:38 -0400, Gary Dale wrote: All you need to do is test the various possible microphone devices listed in the Skype Sound Device microphone options until you find one that works. You don't need to understand what they mean. Just try them. One of them will work. My apologies, it's just that I don't know what pusleaudio is good for and when I asked, skype often was mentioned. About that, it is not only for skype. I have the same problem with mumble ;) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/e869e4a58f3710dd623cf0b97457d...@neutralite.org
Re: using microphone
On 16/03/13 11:43 AM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Le 16.03.2013 16:38, Gary Dale a écrit : On 16/03/13 09:47 AM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Hello. I am trying to use my microphone (with skype and mumble) but was not able to make it working. I tried all entries in the fields to select input, but no results every time. I have removed the mute in alsamixer and the micro works correctly. I mean, if I speak in it, I can hear my own voice stronger, so it probably works (but there is an echo for a reason I do not know. This will be annoying if it persists, but my first goal is to be able to use the micro, annoying things I can fix later). In mumble and skype, when trying to select input device, I have a long list rather unreadable for me, with info like card=SB (I guess it means SoundBlaster), DEV=0 or DEV=2 (related to /dev? There are 2 files in /dev/snd/by-path?) and only skeakers/converters/null... but nothing related to microphone AFAIU. The thing I really can not understand is why I have 2 sounds cards (also in /proc/asound/cards) but I have not added any in my computer (the only related NVidia stuff I have are graphic cards) so I wonder why there are 2 of them (and I am afraid by the NVidia one, to be honest). snipped content I think this message may lack informations, but I have no idea about what I can give except those one... You're getting a lot of really strange advice here. As you said, your microphone works with Linux on your system. You don't need any additional software. All you need to do is test the various possible microphone devices listed in the Skype Sound Device microphone options until you find one that works. You don't need to understand what they mean. Just try them. One of them will work. This way is the first one I did. No one seemed to work. This is why I am asking to the list. I also did some quick searches around the web, but I do not know how to search when I have no idea about what is the problem I try to answer, if you see what I mean. Try again, now that your microphone is unmuted. Try them all even if they seem strange. The one that worked on my system (a webcam with microphone) read "USB Device 0x46d:0x81a, USB Audio Default Audio Device (default:CARD=U0x46d0x81a)" which looks pretty meaningless and not suggestive of a microphone at all. Also, make sure the box "Allow Skype to automatically adjust my mixer levels" is checked. This should prevent the mixer from muting it. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/51449756.3020...@rogers.com
Re: using microphone
On 16/03/13 11:48 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Sat, 2013-03-16 at 11:38 -0400, Gary Dale wrote: All you need to do is test the various possible microphone devices listed in the Skype Sound Device microphone options until you find one that works. You don't need to understand what they mean. Just try them. One of them will work. My apologies, it's just that I don't know what pusleaudio is good for and when I asked, skype often was mentioned. No, your advice was reasonable. I needed Pulse Audio to get any sound out of my system (I use KDE as my desktop). However, this person seems to have sound working OK. I do have a listing for pulse in my pulldown of microphone devices, but my problem with no Skype microphone was simply Skype not identifying the correct device. It defaulted to "default" which didn't have a microphone attached. That would have been the on-board sound, not the USB microphone. Given that the OP has microphone input working, his current problem must be local to Skype. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/514499be@rogers.com
Re: using microphone
Le 16.03.2013 17:01, Gary Dale a écrit : On 16/03/13 11:43 AM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Le 16.03.2013 16:38, Gary Dale a écrit : On 16/03/13 09:47 AM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Hello. I am trying to use my microphone (with skype and mumble) but was not able to make it working. I tried all entries in the fields to select input, but no results every time. I have removed the mute in alsamixer and the micro works correctly. I mean, if I speak in it, I can hear my own voice stronger, so it probably works (but there is an echo for a reason I do not know. This will be annoying if it persists, but my first goal is to be able to use the micro, annoying things I can fix later). In mumble and skype, when trying to select input device, I have a long list rather unreadable for me, with info like card=SB (I guess it means SoundBlaster), DEV=0 or DEV=2 (related to /dev? There are 2 files in /dev/snd/by-path?) and only skeakers/converters/null... but nothing related to microphone AFAIU. The thing I really can not understand is why I have 2 sounds cards (also in /proc/asound/cards) but I have not added any in my computer (the only related NVidia stuff I have are graphic cards) so I wonder why there are 2 of them (and I am afraid by the NVidia one, to be honest). snipped content I think this message may lack informations, but I have no idea about what I can give except those one... You're getting a lot of really strange advice here. As you said, your microphone works with Linux on your system. You don't need any additional software. All you need to do is test the various possible microphone devices listed in the Skype Sound Device microphone options until you find one that works. You don't need to understand what they mean. Just try them. One of them will work. This way is the first one I did. No one seemed to work. This is why I am asking to the list. I also did some quick searches around the web, but I do not know how to search when I have no idea about what is the problem I try to answer, if you see what I mean. Try again, now that your microphone is unmuted. Try them all even if they seem strange. The one that worked on my system (a webcam with microphone) read "USB Device 0x46d:0x81a, USB Audio Default Audio Device (default:CARD=U0x46d0x81a)" which looks pretty meaningless and not suggestive of a microphone at all. Also, make sure the box "Allow Skype to automatically adjust my mixer levels" is checked. This should prevent the mixer from muting it. I tried all sources once again, still no luck. (btw, the skype's interface for testing must have been designed to be boring, slow and inefficient!) I tried with mumble, too, just to be sure. No more luck. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/15cef13c9b4ffefe83a89d68cf796...@neutralite.org
Re: using microphone
On 16/03/13 12:25 PM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Le 16.03.2013 17:01, Gary Dale a écrit : On 16/03/13 11:43 AM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Le 16.03.2013 16:38, Gary Dale a écrit : On 16/03/13 09:47 AM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Hello. I am trying to use my microphone (with skype and mumble) but was not able to make it working. I tried all entries in the fields to select input, but no results every time. I have removed the mute in alsamixer and the micro works correctly. I mean, if I speak in it, I can hear my own voice stronger, so it probably works (but there is an echo for a reason I do not know. This will be annoying if it persists, but my first goal is to be able to use the micro, annoying things I can fix later). In mumble and skype, when trying to select input device, I have a long list rather unreadable for me, with info like card=SB (I guess it means SoundBlaster), DEV=0 or DEV=2 (related to /dev? There are 2 files in /dev/snd/by-path?) and only skeakers/converters/null... but nothing related to microphone AFAIU. The thing I really can not understand is why I have 2 sounds cards (also in /proc/asound/cards) but I have not added any in my computer (the only related NVidia stuff I have are graphic cards) so I wonder why there are 2 of them (and I am afraid by the NVidia one, to be honest). snipped content I think this message may lack informations, but I have no idea about what I can give except those one... You're getting a lot of really strange advice here. As you said, your microphone works with Linux on your system. You don't need any additional software. All you need to do is test the various possible microphone devices listed in the Skype Sound Device microphone options until you find one that works. You don't need to understand what they mean. Just try them. One of them will work. This way is the first one I did. No one seemed to work. This is why I am asking to the list. I also did some quick searches around the web, but I do not know how to search when I have no idea about what is the problem I try to answer, if you see what I mean. Try again, now that your microphone is unmuted. Try them all even if they seem strange. The one that worked on my system (a webcam with microphone) read "USB Device 0x46d:0x81a, USB Audio Default Audio Device (default:CARD=U0x46d0x81a)" which looks pretty meaningless and not suggestive of a microphone at all. Also, make sure the box "Allow Skype to automatically adjust my mixer levels" is checked. This should prevent the mixer from muting it. I tried all sources once again, still no luck. (btw, the skype's interface for testing must have been designed to be boring, slow and inefficient!) I tried with mumble, too, just to be sure. No more luck. OK, now try Ralf's suggestion of installing PulseAudio (apt-get install pulseaudio). It's possible that Skype depends on it even when it doesn't use it directly. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/5144ac66.7060...@rogers.com
Re: using microphone
On 16/03/13 17:31, Gary Dale wrote: > On 16/03/13 12:25 PM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: >> Le 16.03.2013 17:01, Gary Dale a écrit : >>> On 16/03/13 11:43 AM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Le 16.03.2013 16:38, Gary Dale a écrit : > On 16/03/13 09:47 AM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: >> Hello. >> >> I am trying to use my microphone (with skype and mumble) but was >> not able to make it working. I tried all entries in the fields to >> select input, but no results every time. >> I have removed the mute in alsamixer and the micro works >> correctly. I mean, if I speak in it, I can hear my own voice >> stronger, so it probably works (but there is an echo for a reason >> I do not know. This will be annoying if it persists, but my first >> goal is to be able to use the micro, annoying things I can fix >> later). >> >> In mumble and skype, when trying to select input device, I have a >> long list rather unreadable for me, with info like card=SB (I >> guess it means SoundBlaster), DEV=0 or DEV=2 (related to /dev? >> There are 2 files in /dev/snd/by-path?) and only >> skeakers/converters/null... but nothing related to microphone AFAIU. >> >> >> The thing I really can not understand is why I have 2 sounds cards >> (also in /proc/asound/cards) but I have not added any in my >> computer (the only related NVidia stuff I have are graphic cards) >> so I wonder why there are 2 of them (and I am afraid by the NVidia >> one, to be honest). >> > snipped content >> I think this message may lack informations, but I have no idea >> about what I can give except those one... >> > > You're getting a lot of really strange advice here. As you said, your > microphone works with Linux on your system. You don't need any > additional software. All you need to do is test the various possible > microphone devices listed in the Skype Sound Device microphone options > until you find one that works. You don't need to understand what they > mean. Just try them. One of them will work. This way is the first one I did. No one seemed to work. This is why I am asking to the list. I also did some quick searches around the web, but I do not know how to search when I have no idea about what is the problem I try to answer, if you see what I mean. >>> Try again, now that your microphone is unmuted. Try them all even if >>> they seem strange. The one that worked on my system (a webcam with >>> microphone) read "USB Device 0x46d:0x81a, USB Audio Default Audio >>> Device (default:CARD=U0x46d0x81a)" which looks pretty meaningless and >>> not suggestive of a microphone at all. >>> >>> Also, make sure the box "Allow Skype to automatically adjust my mixer >>> levels" is checked. This should prevent the mixer from muting it. >> >> I tried all sources once again, still no luck. (btw, the skype's >> interface for testing must have been designed to be boring, slow and >> inefficient!) >> I tried with mumble, too, just to be sure. No more luck. >> > > OK, now try Ralf's suggestion of installing PulseAudio (apt-get install > pulseaudio). It's possible that Skype depends on it even when it doesn't > use it directly. > Possible, but I couldn't get skype sound working until I purged pulseaudio. YMMV. -- Tony van der Hoff| mailto:t...@vanderhoff.org Buckinghamshire, England | -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/5144ad23.4030...@vanderhoff.org
Re: using microphone
Le 16.03.2013 18:31, Gary Dale a écrit : On 16/03/13 12:25 PM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Le 16.03.2013 17:01, Gary Dale a écrit : On 16/03/13 11:43 AM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Le 16.03.2013 16:38, Gary Dale a écrit : On 16/03/13 09:47 AM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Hello. I am trying to use my microphone (with skype and mumble) but was not able to make it working. I tried all entries in the fields to select input, but no results every time. I have removed the mute in alsamixer and the micro works correctly. I mean, if I speak in it, I can hear my own voice stronger, so it probably works (but there is an echo for a reason I do not know. This will be annoying if it persists, but my first goal is to be able to use the micro, annoying things I can fix later). In mumble and skype, when trying to select input device, I have a long list rather unreadable for me, with info like card=SB (I guess it means SoundBlaster), DEV=0 or DEV=2 (related to /dev? There are 2 files in /dev/snd/by-path?) and only skeakers/converters/null... but nothing related to microphone AFAIU. The thing I really can not understand is why I have 2 sounds cards (also in /proc/asound/cards) but I have not added any in my computer (the only related NVidia stuff I have are graphic cards) so I wonder why there are 2 of them (and I am afraid by the NVidia one, to be honest). snipped content I think this message may lack informations, but I have no idea about what I can give except those one... You're getting a lot of really strange advice here. As you said, your microphone works with Linux on your system. You don't need any additional software. All you need to do is test the various possible microphone devices listed in the Skype Sound Device microphone options until you find one that works. You don't need to understand what they mean. Just try them. One of them will work. This way is the first one I did. No one seemed to work. This is why I am asking to the list. I also did some quick searches around the web, but I do not know how to search when I have no idea about what is the problem I try to answer, if you see what I mean. Try again, now that your microphone is unmuted. Try them all even if they seem strange. The one that worked on my system (a webcam with microphone) read "USB Device 0x46d:0x81a, USB Audio Default Audio Device (default:CARD=U0x46d0x81a)" which looks pretty meaningless and not suggestive of a microphone at all. Also, make sure the box "Allow Skype to automatically adjust my mixer levels" is checked. This should prevent the mixer from muting it. I tried all sources once again, still no luck. (btw, the skype's interface for testing must have been designed to be boring, slow and inefficient!) I tried with mumble, too, just to be sure. No more luck. OK, now try Ralf's suggestion of installing PulseAudio (apt-get install pulseaudio). It's possible that Skype depends on it even when it doesn't use it directly. Well, I could think that skype's package is wrong and have not set the dependency to pulseaudio, but it would be really strange that mumble suffer the same problem, no? But I'll try anyway... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/e68312a990d0d0fea4862eb13cc34...@neutralite.org
Re: using microphone
Le 16/03/2013 18:34, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org a écrit : Well, I could think that skype's package is wrong and have not set the dependency to pulseaudio, but it would be really strange that mumble suffer the same problem, no? But I'll try anyway... skype works for me without pulseaudio, only alsa/. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/5144ad94.9090...@rail.eu.org
Re: using microphone
Le 16.03.2013 18:36, Erwan David a écrit : Le 16/03/2013 18:34, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org a écrit : Well, I could think that skype's package is wrong and have not set the dependency to pulseaudio, but it would be really strange that mumble suffer the same problem, no? But I'll try anyway... skype works for me without pulseaudio, only alsa/. So... I wonder what is the problem... I tried all entries in input with both skype and mumble, and could not had the mic working... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/5e6d84649e32f17864ebeb2390960...@neutralite.org
Re: using microphone
Le 16/03/2013 18:38, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org a écrit : Le 16.03.2013 18:36, Erwan David a écrit : Le 16/03/2013 18:34, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org a écrit : Well, I could think that skype's package is wrong and have not set the dependency to pulseaudio, but it would be really strange that mumble suffer the same problem, no? But I'll try anyway... skype works for me without pulseaudio, only alsa/. So... I wonder what is the problem... I tried all entries in input with both skype and mumble, and could not had the mic working... You may also play with th mixer settings (using kde I use kmix, and some channels are hidden) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/5144ae7f.2080...@rail.eu.org
Re: using microphone
On 03/16/2013 09:47 AM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Hello. I am trying to use my microphone (with skype and mumble) but was not able to make it working. I tried all entries in the fields to select input, but no results every time. I have removed the mute in alsamixer and the micro works correctly. I mean, if I speak in it, I can hear my own voice stronger, so it probably works (but there is an echo for a reason I do not know. This will be annoying if it persists, but my first goal is to be able to use the micro, annoying things I can fix later). In mumble and skype, when trying to select input device, I have a long list rather unreadable for me, with info like card=SB (I guess it means SoundBlaster), DEV=0 or DEV=2 (related to /dev? There are 2 files in /dev/snd/by-path?) and only skeakers/converters/null... but nothing related to microphone AFAIU. The thing I really can not understand is why I have 2 sounds cards (also in /proc/asound/cards) but I have not added any in my computer (the only related NVidia stuff I have are graphic cards) so I wonder why there are 2 of them (and I am afraid by the NVidia one, to be honest). __ lspci -k (but only stuff with 'Audio' in description): 00:14.2 Audio device: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA) (rev 40) Subsystem: ASRock Incorporation Device 0887 Kernel driver in use: snd_hda_intel 01:00.1 Audio device: NVIDIA Corporation High Definition Audio Controller (rev a1) Subsystem: CardExpert Technology Device 1401 Kernel driver in use: snd_hda_intel __ Your NVidia card has a sound decoder that feeds the HDMI output. If it's like mine, there is no other sound output connection on it. In Linux, I have had little to no success using that output; in XP, the NVidia driver will send the output to your TV, while disabling the normal sound device. --doug -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/5144b05d.5000...@optonline.net
Re: Wheezy issue with broadcom 5720 nic on new dell PowerEdge R720
On Sat 16 Mar 2013 at 12:08:19 +0100, Casper Langemeijer wrote: [Snip] > From that moment on eth0 is not working anymore. I get these kernel > messages: > > [ 1796.583881] tg3 :01:00.0: eth0: transmit timed out, resetting A search with "tg3 transmit timed out resetting" turns up some possibilities for you to investigate. [Snip] > Then it loads that firmware blob onto the network card, breaking it. > > And now what? > > I have a bricked eth0. I really like to repair before the machine > goes into production. Suggestions anyone? You are suggesting the loading of firmware has permanently damaged the network card but I wonder whether this can be so. My understanding is similar to what is expressed in this post: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2013/01/msg00028.html >> 2) What happens with the firmware when card becomes operational? I >> mean by definition it should be written to device non-volatile >> memory(for example flash memory), but I doubt that this is the case >> for Wi-Fi adapters.. Or is it? > No. The image is simply loaded into the adapter's ram. After the > device loses power the memory evaporates. When power is applied again > the device is once again blank or back to the default power on state > and the firmware must be loaded again. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130316181950.GS32477@desktop
Re: using microphone
On 2013-03-16, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: > > > So... I wonder what is the problem... I tried all entries in input with > both skype and mumble, and could not had the mic working... My experience is that you must set the microphone as a capture device, just as you would do if you wished to record from microphone input (F4 in alsamixer). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/slrnkk9ed3.3d5.cu...@einstein.electron.org
Re: Chromium on Sid Very Slow
On Friday 15 March 2013 17:34:22 Kelly Clowers wrote: > On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 12:39 PM, David Baron wrote: > > This is supposed to be the fastest browser but not right now. > > > > > > > > Almost unusable. Rekonq and others do far better. > > What is slow? Page rendering? Tab/window opening? interacting with the > page? Opening the page. Completion of rendering, i.e. assembling all the little objects.
Re: using microphone
Erwan David wrote: Le 16/03/2013 18:34, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org a écrit : Well, I could think that skype's package is wrong and have not set the dependency to pulseaudio, but it would be really strange that mumble suffer the same problem, no? But I'll try anyway... skype works for me without pulseaudio, only alsa/. same here. hugo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/ki2hpm$7a3$1...@ger.gmane.org
Re: using microphone
Erwan David wrote: Le 16/03/2013 18:38, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org a écrit : Le 16.03.2013 18:36, Erwan David a écrit : Le 16/03/2013 18:34, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org a écrit : Well, I could think that skype's package is wrong and have not set the dependency to pulseaudio, but it would be really strange that mumble suffer the same problem, no? But I'll try anyway... skype works for me without pulseaudio, only alsa/. So... I wonder what is the problem... I tried all entries in input with both skype and mumble, and could not had the mic working... You may also play with th mixer settings (using kde I use kmix, and some channels are hidden) I have recorded my settings for alsamixer that work w. skype. I just tried it. The only reason I use skype: I like their test call... The settings in the table with a red asterisk matter. http://uppix.net/7/7/6/974d592faf71a828a512a42d75745.jpg Hugo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/ki2iug$j12$1...@ger.gmane.org
Re: SSDT - Any more ideas??
On Saturday 16 March 2013 15:27:27 Mark Neidorff wrote: > > I bought this laptop from eBay as a used unit. It had Windows XP loaded > > when received, and displayed the same problem.. I installed the Debian > > from official disks. > > > > We (the list) like "Good Questions (TM)". Your first question did not > qualify, and with the additional information that you provided, it still > does not qualify as a Good Question. And I cannot be the only one whose email client is set not to read HTML. Ethan would get more eyeballs, and therefore a larger pool of potential help, if he posted in plain text. Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201303162025.00211.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: Chromium on Sid Very Slow
On Sat 16 Mar 2013 at 20:33:05 +0200, David Baron wrote: > On Friday 15 March 2013 17:34:22 Kelly Clowers wrote: > > On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 12:39 PM, David Baron wrote: > > > This is supposed to be the fastest browser but not right now. > > > > > > > > > > > > Almost unusable. Rekonq and others do far better. > > > > What is slow? Page rendering? Tab/window opening? interacting with the > > page? > > Opening the page. > Completion of rendering, i.e. assembling all the little objects. This is the recommended procedure of the DBTTF (the Debian Browser Testing Task Force) to assess browser performance: 1. Type www.debian.org into the address bar of the browser. 2. Press the ENTER key. 3. Does the page appear in less then one second about one second greater than one second If it is greater than one second please give an estimate of the time the page takes to appear. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130316204036.GT32477@desktop
Re: using microphone
On Sat, 2013-03-16 at 13:48 -0400, Doug wrote: > Your NVidia card has a sound decoder that feeds the HDMI output. If it's > like mine, there is no other sound output connection on it. > In Linux, I have had little to no success using that output; in XP, the > NVidia driver will send the output to your TV, while disabling the > normal sound device. Most likely the issue is related to this. I've got an on-board ATI with a HDMI thingy connected to an PCIe port, but I don't have experiences with the on-board device and the HDMI thingy. On my machine all those consumer devices are disabled. Since there's no latency when the microphone is connected, but there's audible output, it might be just hardware monitoring without an connection to the software. OTOH I can't believe that a consumer on-board device should provide hardware monitoring. I wonder if it would be possible to record input from the mic by "audacity" (ALSA or JACK) or if "meterbridge" (JACK) should show a signal. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1363467768.563.32.camel@archlinux
Re: Wheezy amd64 XFCE how to burn Blu-Ray (BD-R )discs?
On 03/13/13 17:15, David Christensen wrote (edited) Okay. I've installed it (k3b) and have started a BD-R burn... Failed. Twice. Please see screenshot and "debugging output": http://holgerdanske.com/users/dpchrist/bug-reports/debian/wheezy/amd64/k3b/ David -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/5144e4ec.9070...@holgerdanske.com
Re: SSDT - Any more ideas??
Hi Ethan :) 1. In your position, I would follow the advice to reset the BIOS settings. 2. Can you run the Parted Magic live media? http://sourceforge.net/projects/partedmagic/files/partedmagic/ Or a similar light weight Linux live media? OT: On Sat, 2013-03-16 at 20:25 +, Lisi Reisz wrote: > And I cannot be the only one whose email client is set not to read HTML. > Ethan would get more eyeballs, and therefore a larger pool of potential help, > if he posted in plain text. I'm able and willing to read HTML, even if IMO HTML for emails is obsolet. HTML for emails was a valid experiment, to test if comfortable text formatting could be provided. The experiment failed, HTML for emails comes with more drawbacks, than advantages. We still have enough issues without HTML and shouldn't add extra-issues. The formatting of this thread even for HTML was über-disgusting. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1363470031.563.45.camel@archlinux
Re: Wheezy amd64 XFCE how to burn Blu-Ray (BD-R )discs?
On Sat, 2013-03-16 at 14:32 -0700, David Christensen wrote: > On 03/13/13 17:15, David Christensen wrote (edited) > > Okay. I've installed it (k3b) and have started a BD-R burn... > > Failed. Twice. Please see screenshot and "debugging output": > > > http://holgerdanske.com/users/dpchrist/bug-reports/debian/wheezy/amd64/k3b/ I don't know if it's important nowadays, but is the file just a little bit bigger than 2GB or much bigger? I also don't know if there would be a message, if it shouldn't work regarding to a copy protection. It might be that you can copy a media one time, but you might not be able to make a copy from the copy. I don't know if this could be the case for Blu-Ray, but at least for consumer audio DAT there's a copy bit. This is also active for private material. If you make a digital copy of a privat audio DAT, it anyway will set this copy bit, so that you can't make a copy from the copy. IOW even if you shouldn't try to illegal copy something, a copy protection standard might forbid to copy your own data. _Again, I don't have knowledge about Blu-Ray!_ It's just that for other media there are such traps. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1363473492.563.71.camel@archlinux
Re: Wheezy amd64 XFCE how to burn Blu-Ray (BD-R )discs?
On 14/03/13 05:45 AM, Thomas Schmitt wrote: Hi, being developer of libburn i would like to correct some technical statements made here. Gary Dale wrote: The difference between Blu-ray and DVD is that DVD is a super CD while Blu-ray is a super DVD-RAM. BD-RE are like DVD-RAM, indeed. But BD-R aren't. One can format them to a state called Pseudo Overwrite (POW). But that is an escalation of Defect Management, which does not work convincingly to my experience. Writing by a specialized burn program to plain unformatted BD-R still works best and fastest. Not all DVD types resemble giant CD. DVD+R and DVD+RW are quite different. Not to speak of hunchbacked DVD-RAM. Thanks Thomas. I wasn't striving for absolute accuracy but rather to give the OP the flavour of the issue. Your file manager is all the GUI you need to "burn" a BD-R/RE. This might be true for BD-RE, but not for BD-R. Nevertheless the random-access performance of BD-RE is weak. So i would not use them for a read-write filesystem. ISO 9660 written as stream works fine with them. My own experiences with writing to UDF on mounted optical media are repelling: the poor drive makes awful noises and the extreme expansion of i/o buffers nearly lets the desktop freeze. So it is preferrable to fill all optical media by a sequential stream of data rather than by random-access. E.g. by creating an UDF image on hard disk, mounting it, filling it with files, unmounting, and then burning it to BD by help of a burn program. I am normally using my own command line program xorriso for burning to BD media (two BD-R and two BD-RE are in daily use). libburn also serves underneath frontends like Brasero, xfburn, FlBurn. If those frontends are not aware of BD media, then their developers are invited to ask me for advise how to make use of libburn's capability to handle them. But first one should give their newest versions a try. It depends I suppose on what you are trying to do. I use BD-RE for automated backups where defect management is nice to have and where the ability to rewrite individual files is also important. I haven't timed creating an image then burning it against just burning files. I suppose I should at some point. Brasero, which the OP wants to use, is supposed to be able to handle BD media, as can k3b. I can understand CD-R to distinguish it from CD-ROM, but that really should be CD-W because both CD-R and CD-ROM are readable. CD-R means "Compact Disc Recordable". CD-RW means "Compact Disc ReWritable". I rather wonder why BD-R is not "BD+R" and BD-RE is not "BD-RAM". Thechnically these would be the natural names derived from the DVD nomenclature. Well, its all about marketing and trademark licenses. I'm aware of the meanings of CD-R etc.. I just don't like them. :) Using the W for the Writable part of ReWritable doesn't really go with using R for Recordable. Consistency dictates calling CD-RW CD-RR (ReRecordable). Using two terms to describe the same thing is awkward but when you include CD-ROM for Read Only Media, you now have R standing for Read, Recordable and Re(writable). If we used CD-RR, then R stands for two different things in the same name. The whole thing gets really ugly. It makes much more sense to just use W when you mean you can write to it. Using E to indicate that you can erase it doesn't really capture the essence that you can overwrite existing sectors with new data. The + in DVD+ media distinguishes it from the - variety, but the distinction isn't needed for BD. Both BD-R and BD-RE use the + disc track/sector structure that was originally in DVD-RAM and adopted by DVD+, which is why I think of BD as super DVD-RAM. I'd go for BD-RAM instead of BD-RE but I still prefer using a W when you mean you can write to it and a RW when it is ReWritable. :) Too late to expect the world to operate reasonably though. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/5144f5d9.7020...@rogers.com
Re: Wheezy amd64 XFCE how to burn Blu-Ray (BD-R )discs?
On 16/03/13 06:38 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Sat, 2013-03-16 at 14:32 -0700, David Christensen wrote: On 03/13/13 17:15, David Christensen wrote (edited) Okay. I've installed it (k3b) and have started a BD-R burn... Failed. Twice. Please see screenshot and "debugging output": http://holgerdanske.com/users/dpchrist/bug-reports/debian/wheezy/amd64/k3b/ I don't know if it's important nowadays, but is the file just a little bit bigger than 2GB or much bigger? I also don't know if there would be a message, if it shouldn't work regarding to a copy protection. It might be that you can copy a media one time, but you might not be able to make a copy from the copy. I don't know if this could be the case for Blu-Ray, but at least for consumer audio DAT there's a copy bit. This is also active for private material. If you make a digital copy of a privat audio DAT, it anyway will set this copy bit, so that you can't make a copy from the copy. IOW even if you shouldn't try to illegal copy something, a copy protection standard might forbid to copy your own data. _Again, I don't have knowledge about Blu-Ray!_ It's just that for other media there are such traps. Interesting. The OP is burning a 12G image and it fails near the end of the write with just 48M to go. However the debugging output seems to indicate that it was 99.99% done. I don't think this is related to the file sizes. It may be that K3B was just writing to the disc header trying to finalize the disc write before comparing the disc to the original image. I've had my own problems with Pioneer BD writers. I never got a 207 to work with Linux either. Moreover, they refuse to publish a firmware updater for anything but Windows. That could be what's causing your problem. If you have a Windows machine you can connect the writer to, try updating the firmware first. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/5144faa5.7030...@rogers.com
Re: Why the 64 bit ISA is better
Stan Hoeppner writes: > Given the recent threads regarding 32 vs 64 bit I thought I'd take a > moment to present information often omitted in responses to these posts. > > [ some good explanations ] Another often underestimated bit is the new addressing mode relative to the instruction pointer %rip. This greatly reduces the performance overhead of position independent code needed for shared libs. On the other hand, the penalties that come with 64 bit are also often underestimated: Pointers are 64 bit wide and this can increase memory foot print considerably. Argueing with decreasing costs for main memory neglects the fact that even this larger memory must be inited/loaded from disk, transferred to/from CPU thru the memory bus and pointers also require more space in CPU cache memory which cannot easily be enlarged. Nevertheless, I always prefer the amd64 installation instead of i386 when installing on new machines. urs -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/ygfmwu26fmd@janus.isnogud.escape.de
Re: "su" - timeout for dbus/system_bus_socket if $DISPLAY set but unreachable
Sven Uhlig wrote: > Bob Proulx wrote: > >> The problem is that "su" takes 25 seconds before it succeeds. > > > > That sounds like a DNS timeout. If you do a dns lookup of your > > systems hostname does it respond? > > # nslookup localhost > Name: localhost > Address: 127.0.0.1 > > # nslookup 127.0.0.1 > 1.0.0.127.in-addr.arpa name = localhost. Good. > # nslookup baldur > ** server can't find baldur: NXDOMAIN > > # nslookup baldur.asgard > ** server can't find baldur.asgard: NXDOMAIN Unfortunately nslookup only looks at DNS. It is a DNS tool and does not follow /etc/nsswitch.conf for looking at other locations such as the /etc/hosts file. It is the reason I use the libc tool 'getent' to use the libc lookup routine and do whatever is configured. getent baldur.asgard > # ping baldur > PING baldur.asgard (127.0.1.1) 56(84) bytes of data. See that ping does do the lookup and does find the address okay. But although I know that many people use ping for a lookup tool that is really only a side effect of the primary purpose of ping. > > Look in /etc/hosts and look for (at least) these lines: > > # grep 127. /etc/hosts > 127.0.0.1 localhost > 127.0.1.1 baldur.asgard baldur Looks good. > > Because PAM often logs the hostname to the system log and does > > other such DNS lookups. > > Can I disable reverse DNS lookup? The data you provided, that ping showed the lookup okay, says that this isn't the problem. The problem must be something else. Which at least is good to know by itself. But it means you need to keep looking. > >> I can skip the timeout if I do either of these two things: > >> Solution 1) run X server on 10.0.2.2 (Xming) Solution 2) unset > >> $DISPLAY > > > > If you dns lookup 10.0.2.2 does it resolve? Quickly or after a > > longer timeout? > > # nslookup 10.0.2.2 > ** server can't find 2.2.0.10.in-addr.arpa.: NXDOMAIN > > # ping wotan > ping: unknown host wotan At this point I would suggest that you try an experiment and add an entry for 10.0.2.2 in your /etc/hosts file. Does that cause this to speed up? But I see that you are ahead of me and did that experiment already and it did not speed things up. > But as it is a private IP, why should there be a DNS? Wouldnt everyone > have the same problem if they dont set up their own BIND or hosts file? Yes. But most people don't use ssh and terminals these days and those that do know to have their dns set up correctly. This is actually a common problem with 'sudo' unless "!fqdn" is specified in the options. When dns is broken then sudo takes a very long time when "fqdn" is specified. Therefore I always turn that off. That long delay in sudo with dns broken is why I suspected a problem with your 'su' delay and was thinking it might be similar. > I have added the remote hostname to /etc: > # grep wotan /etc/hosts > 10.0.2.2 wotan.asgard wotan > > Of course I only get the following changes: > # ping wotan > PING wotan.asgard (10.0.2.2) 56(84) bytes of data. > > Though no change in the behaviour of "su", still a 25 seconds timeout > before it succeeds. It was a good experiment. I wish it had solved the problem. > In the output of strace I can see that /something/ happens with > libnss, so DNS lookup. But unfortunately I am unable to tell what it > is. But there seems not to be any timeout related to DNS. Another brainstorm idea. Do you have libnss-mdns installed? As an experiment try removing it. I doubt you are using it. You can always install it again. apt-get purge libnss-mdns I will cross my fingers and hope for good luck. > Any use of posting a full strace log? I dont think so. Doubtful. Unless someone in the know about dbus asks for it. You have isolated it to a dbus problem. > > Hopefully someone else will have a better suggestion. > > Thank you anyways. Getting any response is always good, instead of > being ignored completely :) I wish I could be more help. Hopefully someone knowledgeable about dbus will have help with a solution for it. Bob signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: "su" - timeout for dbus/system_bus_socket if $DISPLAY set but unreachable
> The reasons seems to be my setup of the system. > Debian runs in a VirtualBox environment, headless and w/o X server. > I use ssh to connect to the system. (putty) > I use X forwarding to run X applications on the system. > The variable $DISPLAY gets set to 10.0.2.2:0 after ssh auth. Sven, I'm pretty sure that the value of DISPLAY means you are using a traditional X connection, and not actually using the X forwarding over ssh. ssh would set DISPLAY to "localhost:10" or similar. Setting up ssh forwarding correctly could avoid your problem because it will set DISPLAY only when it's valid. You will need to remove any setting of DISPLAY from your shell's startup files. Assuming you use bash, that would include /etc/profile /etc/bash.bashrc ~/.profile ~/.bash_profile ~/.bash_login ~/.bashrc and anything sourced by those files. Make sure your /etc/ssh/sshd_config contains a line: X11Forwarding yes If it's missing, add it then restart the ssh server. Then connect from Putty without X forwarding. DISPLAY should not be set on the Debian machine. Then connect from Putty with X forwarding. DISPLAY should be "localhost:10" or similar. I hope this helps. -- Cheers, Clive -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130317015308.GA32005@rimmer.localdomain
Re: Wheezy amd64 XFCE how to burn Blu-Ray (BD-R )discs?
On 03/16/13 15:38, Ralf Mardorf wrote: I don't know if it's important nowadays, but is the file just a little bit bigger than 2GB or much bigger? $ ls -l data/video/david-christensen/dpchrist-20070418-20070608-raw.avi -r-xr--r-- 2 dpchrist dpchrist 12867952640 Jun 13 2007 data/video/david-christensen/dpchrist-20070418-20070608-raw.avi I also don't know if there would be a message, if it shouldn't work regarding to a copy protection. It might be that you can copy a media one time, but you might not be able to make a copy from the copy. I don't know if this could be the case for Blu-Ray, but at least for consumer audio DAT there's a copy bit. This is also active for private material. If you make a digital copy of a privat audio DAT, it anyway will set this copy bit, so that you can't make a copy from the copy. IOW even if you shouldn't try to illegal copy something, a copy protection standard might forbid to copy your own data. _Again, I don't have knowledge about Blu-Ray!_ It's just that for other media there are such traps. The file was created by Windows Movie Maker on a Windows XP laptop and then copied via SMB to the Wheezy box. I have never seen any copy protection warnings/ error messages related to any such files. David -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/514534c4.8070...@holgerdanske.com
Recommendations for Linux-friendly Blu-Ray writing drives?
On 03/16/13 16:05, Gary Dale wrote: I've had my own problems with Pioneer BD writers. I never got a 207 to work with Linux either. Moreover, they refuse to publish a firmware updater for anything but Windows. That could be what's causing your problem. If you have a Windows machine you can connect the writer to, try updating the firmware first. Yuck. Does anybody have any recommendations for Linux-friendly Blu-Ray writing drives? David -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/514535f4.1040...@holgerdanske.com
Re: Recommendations for Linux-friendly Blu-Ray writing drives?
On 16/03/13 11:18 PM, David Christensen wrote: On 03/16/13 16:05, Gary Dale wrote: I've had my own problems with Pioneer BD writers. I never got a 207 to work with Linux either. Moreover, they refuse to publish a firmware updater for anything but Windows. That could be what's causing your problem. If you have a Windows machine you can connect the writer to, try updating the firmware first. Yuck. Does anybody have any recommendations for Linux-friendly Blu-Ray writing drives? David LG and ASUS have worked well for me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/5145378e.1040...@rogers.com
Re: [POSSIBLE SPAM] Re: use a 3TB WD Mybook on old etch system kernel 2.6.18-6-486. parted 1.7.1 has bugs. can I use modern parted on other system and move over drive
On 23:32 Fri 15 Mar , Amit Uttamchandani wrote: > Should work... > > Looking at the code for 2.6.18.6 it does have support for > EFI partition scheme (GPT). > > To confirm if your kernel has support for it search > EFI_PARTITION in /proc/config.gz or /boot/config > to see if EFI partition is defined. cat /boot/config-2.6.18-6-486 |grep EFI CONFIG_EFI_VARS=m CONFIG_EFI=y CONFIG_EFI_PARTITION=y A1:~# q ok so I will try it tomorrow. Thank you very much I will report back Mitchell -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130317033211.ga8...@earthlink.net
Re: using microphone
On 16/03/13 05:02 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Sat, 2013-03-16 at 13:48 -0400, Doug wrote: Your NVidia card has a sound decoder that feeds the HDMI output. If it's like mine, there is no other sound output connection on it. In Linux, I have had little to no success using that output; in XP, the NVidia driver will send the output to your TV, while disabling the normal sound device. Most likely the issue is related to this. I've got an on-board ATI with a HDMI thingy connected to an PCIe port, but I don't have experiences with the on-board device and the HDMI thingy. On my machine all those consumer devices are disabled. Since there's no latency when the microphone is connected, but there's audible output, it might be just hardware monitoring without an connection to the software. OTOH I can't believe that a consumer on-board device should provide hardware monitoring. I wonder if it would be possible to record input from the mic by "audacity" (ALSA or JACK) or if "meterbridge" (JACK) should show a signal. The NVidia sound is likely not the culprit. It is there primarily to route sound from an optical disc movie to HDMI sound. The audible output from Linux indicates that Linux had correctly identified the microphone and is using it. Routing the microphone to the speakers is a little odd and should be able to be disabled. I note that on my KDE desktop, kmix lists the playback streams as Event Sounds and ALSA plug-in, which really doesn't give you much control. Running "alsamixer -V playback -c 0" from the command line showed me the full settings, and confirmed that my microphone playback was muted. Of course, viewing the same settings for input also showed the microphone muted because I don't have anything plugged into it. Switching to -c 1 showed my USB microphone input which showed a different value than kmix. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/514539a4.7030...@rogers.com
Re: Recommendations for Linux-friendly Blu-Ray writing drives?
On 16/03/13 11:25 PM, Gary Dale wrote: On 16/03/13 11:18 PM, David Christensen wrote: On 03/16/13 16:05, Gary Dale wrote: I've had my own problems with Pioneer BD writers. I never got a 207 to work with Linux either. Moreover, they refuse to publish a firmware updater for anything but Windows. That could be what's causing your problem. If you have a Windows machine you can connect the writer to, try updating the firmware first. Yuck. Does anybody have any recommendations for Linux-friendly Blu-Ray writing drives? David LG and ASUS have worked well for me. BTW: do try to update the firmware if you can. It may work better after a firmware update. It's hard to imagine why a SATA block device would fail under Linux unless there was something wrong with its firmware. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/51453afb@rogers.com
Re: SSDT - Any more ideas??
On 03/16/2013 05:40 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: Hi Ethan :) 1. In your position, I would follow the advice to reset the BIOS settings. 2. Can you run the Parted Magic live media? http://sourceforge.net/projects/partedmagic/files/partedmagic/ Or a similar light weight Linux live media? OT: On Sat, 2013-03-16 at 20:25 +, Lisi Reisz wrote: And I cannot be the only one whose email client is set not to read HTML. Ethan would get more eyeballs, and therefore a larger pool of potential help, if he posted in plain text. I'm able and willing to read HTML, even if IMO HTML for emails is obsolet. HTML for emails was a valid experiment, to test if comfortable text formatting could be provided. The experiment failed, HTML for emails comes with more drawbacks, than advantages. We still have enough issues without HTML and shouldn't add extra-issues. The formatting of this thread even for HTML was über-disgusting. Lisi - HTML is the Icedove default. Now disabled. Ralf - Reset BIOS. No Change. . Can you run the Parted Magic live media? > http://sourceforge.net/projects/partedmagic/files/partedmagic/ > Or a similar light weight Linux live media? > YES See my other answers in my email to Mark Neidorf. Ethan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/5145438b.80...@hygeiabiomedical.com
Re: SSDT - Any more ideas??
On 03/16/2013 11:27 AM, Mark Neidorff wrote: Dear list - When I boot my Debian [6.0.1] I receive a message "SSDT not found." How do I fix it? Thanks. Ethan Did you check the media that you booted from and make sure that it passedthe MD5SUM or other test? I bought this laptop from eBay as a used unit. It had Windows XP loaded when received, and displayed the same problem.. I installed the Debian from official disks. Ethan Ethan, We (the list) like "Good Questions (TM)". Your first question did not qualify, and with the additional information that you provided, it still does not qualify as a Good Question. What we know: you got an error it is a laptop you bought it sight unseen it had Windows XP on it you got the error with XP you installed Debian on it you got the same error with Debian Just some of the things that we (the list)don't know, and we need to know to help you solve this problem: how old is it >>2007 how much memory does it have >>2G what is the brand >> Dell Latitude D630 what processor does it have >> Intel Duo Core 2.2G what disk drive does it have and what is its capacity >> 160G what bios does it have Dell A13 is the bios up to date or is there a newer version available >> Latest A17. Given what little information you have provided we think that: There is perhaps a bios problem the problem is not related to Debian or XP since it occurs when you boot either one. It was suggested that you: Go into the bios and reset it to factory default. >> DONE If that fixes the problem, >> It didn't you are all set. If not, the computer may have a very limited life left. OUCH! Did you reset the bios? >> Yes (You did not say if you tried that) Make sure that the computer has the latest version of the bios installed. Did you check the version of the bios? >> Y What is the result of updating the bios? >> It is not obvious to me how to do it. All the documentation refers to a Windows/DOS system. Would someone please walk me thru it. Thanks for your help and constructive criticism. Ethan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/514546bc.7090...@hygeiabiomedical.com
Re: SSDT - Any more ideas??
On 17/03/13 12:29 AM, Ethan Rosenberg, PhD wrote: On 03/16/2013 11:27 AM, Mark Neidorff wrote: Dear list - When I boot my Debian [6.0.1] I receive a message "SSDT not found." How do I fix it? Thanks. Ethan Did you check the media that you booted from and make sure that it passedthe MD5SUM or other test? I bought this laptop from eBay as a used unit. It had Windows XP loaded when received, and displayed the same problem.. I installed the Debian from official disks. Ethan Ethan, We (the list) like "Good Questions (TM)". Your first question did not qualify, and with the additional information that you provided, it still does not qualify as a Good Question. What we know: you got an error it is a laptop you bought it sight unseen it had Windows XP on it you got the error with XP you installed Debian on it you got the same error with Debian Just some of the things that we (the list)don't know, and we need to know to help you solve this problem: how old is it >>2007 how much memory does it have >>2G what is the brand >> Dell Latitude D630 what processor does it have >> Intel Duo Core 2.2G what disk drive does it have and what is its capacity >> 160G what bios does it have Dell A13 is the bios up to date or is there a newer version available >> Latest A17. Given what little information you have provided we think that: There is perhaps a bios problem the problem is not related to Debian or XP since it occurs when you boot either one. It was suggested that you: Go into the bios and reset it to factory default. >> DONE If that fixes the problem, >> It didn't you are all set. If not, the computer may have a very limited life left. OUCH! Did you reset the bios? >> Yes (You did not say if you tried that) Make sure that the computer has the latest version of the bios installed. Did you check the version of the bios? >> Y What is the result of updating the bios? >> It is not obvious to me how to do it. All the documentation refers to a Windows/DOS system. Would someone please walk me thru it. Thanks for your help and constructive criticism. Ethan Updating the BIOS depends on the computer. Many BIOS can now update directly from a USB stick (usually required to be formatted as FAT16 or FAT32 and containing the BIOS file) but older ones need to run a DOS program from a machine booted into a special (DOS) mode. If your machine can boot from a floppy (remember those?), that's easy but if it can't it's a little trickier. There's no end of ways to format a bootable DOS floppy disk and copy the installer and BIOS to them. If you have a machine without a floppy drive, you need to create a boot disk (CD or USB stick) that boots to a DOS command prompt and that contains the updated BIOS and the BIOS installer. Where it gets tricky is that MS-DOS doesn't recognize either device without drivers, and may not recognize a USB stick at all. Do some research on FreeDOS. Another option is to boot into Windows. Some manufactures now provide a Windows program to update the BIOS. However, if you don't have Windows installed, and why would you just to update the BIOS, then you are again out of luck. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/51454a8d.6010...@rogers.com
external hard disk ntfs formatted not recognized.
my system is squeeze-amd64
I have my passport external hdd. It is initially recognised and then it is
disconnected immediately.
I got message as follows
lvgandhi@lvghomepc:/var/log$ sudo tail messages
Mar 17 11:32:34 lvghomepc kernel: [ 1255.536713] scsi 4:0:0:0:
Direct-Access WD 3200BEV External 1.75 PQ: 0 ANSI: 4
Mar 17 11:32:34 lvghomepc kernel: [ 1255.537876] sd 4:0:0:0: Attached scsi
generic sg3 type 0
Mar 17 11:32:34 lvghomepc kernel: [ 1255.538061] sd 4:0:0:0: [sdc]
625142448 512-byte logical blocks: (320 GB/298 GiB)
Mar 17 11:32:34 lvghomepc kernel: [ 1255.538562] sd 4:0:0:0: [sdc] Write
Protect is off
Mar 17 11:32:34 lvghomepc kernel: [ 1255.539944] sdc: sdc1
Mar 17 11:32:34 lvghomepc kernel: [ 1255.554116] usb 1-3: USB disconnect,
address 4
Mar 17 11:32:34 lvghomepc kernel: [ 1255.557962] sd 4:0:0:0: [sdc] READ
CAPACITY failed
Mar 17 11:32:34 lvghomepc kernel: [ 1255.557967] sd 4:0:0:0: [sdc] Result:
hostbyte=DID_NO_CONNECT driverbyte=DRIVER_OK
Mar 17 11:32:34 lvghomepc kernel: [ 1255.557973] sd 4:0:0:0: [sdc] Sense
not available.
Mar 17 11:32:34 lvghomepc kernel: [ 1255.558002] sd 4:0:0:0: [sdc] Attached
SCSI disk
I also have following rule in /etc/udev/rules.d
80-usb-wd.rules
which is
lvgandhi@lvghomepc:~$ cat /etc/udev/rules.d/80-usb-wd.rules
ACTION=="add", SUBSYSTEMS=="usb",
ATTRS{serial}=="57442D575845304139395337303334", SYMLINK+="wd%n"
ACTION=="add", SUBSYSTEMS=="usb",
ATTRS{serial}=="57442D575845304139395337303334", RUN+="/bin/mkdir /media/wd"
ACTION=="add", SUBSYSTEMS=="usb",
ATTRS{serial}=="57442D575845304139395337303334", RUN+="/bin/mount -t
ntfs-3g -o rw,uid=1000,umask=022,posix,shortname=winnt /dev/wd1 /media/wd",
OPTIONS="last_rule"
ACTION=="remove", SUBSYSTEMS=="usb",
ATTRS{serial}=="57442D575845304139395337303334", RUN+="/bin/umount
/media/wd"
ACTION=="remove", SUBSYSTEMS=="usb",
ATTRS{serial}=="57442D575845304139395337303334", RUN+="/bin/rmdir
/media/wd", OPTIONS="last_rule"
lvgandhi@lvghomepc:~$
Any solution to avoid disconnection and mounting?
--
L V Gandhi
