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Le 03.02.2013 10:05, Nuno Magalhães a écrit :
On Sun, Feb 3, 2013 at 7:40 AM,   
wrote:

you will run localepurge.


Yup, that plus whichever locales you want usually does the trick,


Only the trick to clean installed files, not to avoid downloading them, 
afaik.
So, we: download list of russian, greek, french... translations, 
install some package, install it in all languages, and thanks to 
localepurge, remove all of them, except the one(s) in which we are 
interested.



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Re: Debian is a translation.

On Du, 03 feb 13, 08:32:08, Dom wrote:
> 
> In my /etc/apt/apt.conf, I have:
> 
> Acquire::Languages "none";
> 
> This seems to prevent downloading all the translations. 

This applies only to package descriptions.

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Re: Anybody have a chromebook? Can it run Debian?

On Sb, 02 feb 13, 18:04:31, Rick Thomas wrote:
> 
>   HD Widescreen CineCrystal™ LED-backlit LCD Display (1366 x 768)
>   Intel HD Graphics chip
>   128MB Video Graphics Memory
> 
> So it's not a huge display (either in physical size or in pixel
> real-estate) but for the price, it's acceptable.

I wonder what pixel real-estate can do for you. As far as I'm concerned, 
if the DPI is reasonable[1] the size of the screen will be the limiting 
factor.

[1] my Thinkpad has 129x127, which is good enough for me. According to 
my calculations the Chromebook should have a slightly higher DPI

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Re: Anybody have a chromebook? Can it run Debian?

On Sb, 02 feb 13, 21:06:55, zxcvbob wrote:
> 
> I have a different model Chromebook with an Atom processor and a
> SSD. It should run Debian just fine; 

Beware of the graphics, the integrated chips of newer Atoms are not 
supported by the usual intel driver.

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Re: Debian is a translation.


Le 03.02.2013 09:32, Dom a écrit :

On 03/02/13 07:40, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:



OT:
But thinking about that, I remember that each time I do an update 
with
aptitude (or apt-get), translations for all languages are checked, 
and

when you do regular updates, you spend most of the time downloading
those translations. Then, to gain space, sometimes several hundreds 
of

MB (at first run), you will run localepurge.

All of this loss of time and bandwidth (for both server and client,
about bandwidth) could be avoided if it was possible to fully remove 
all
unused languages of Debian. I have no idea about the fact it is 
possible

or not...


In my /etc/apt/apt.conf, I have:

Acquire::Languages "none";

This seems to prevent downloading all the translations. However, I am
English, speak English as my primary language and my installs are all
in English, so I'm not sure what this option would do if the system's
locale is anything else. I guess change "none" to the local language?

I also use a custom "locales" package which has a pre-built
en_GB.UTF-8 only. It saves a *lot* of time when updating my slower
systems.

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Hum... sounds like I was wrong, I just tried to verify what I said, and 
on unstable, only fr and en are downloaded.
Sounds like my memory lied to me... (and I am *sure* that I *had* that 
issue... humpf)


However, I tried your line in apt-get, and it sounds to remove all 
translations.
Setting it as "french" downloaded from "Translation-fr" and 
"Translation-french", using greek (a random peek) "Translation-greek" 
and "Translation-fr" and commenting the line "Translation-fr_FR", 
"Translation-fr" and "Translation-en".
So, I guess that this line simply download according to your locales if 
absent, and if present, only downloads the language you set, plus the 
extra locale you could have set (fr for me).

Just some guessing.


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Re: Wheezy installation problem

On Sb, 02 feb 13, 21:41:15, Lucio Crusca wrote:
> 
> The installation starts normally, it leads me through all the steps, it 
> formats the filesystem, copies files, but in the end GRUB installation 
> fails. I've tried both UEFI and CSM bios settings with no luck, always same 
> error:
... 
> Any clues?

I'd say you should contact debian-boot if you don't get any useful hints 
here.

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Re: killing a job-not solved but stopped

2013-02-03 Thread Thierry Chatelet

The Saturday 02 February 2013 02:08:16, Thierry Chatelet wrote :

Doing some more trials, I started more intances of vlc, no one could be 
killed! So at one point OI had more than 10 of those. I decided (dont kill me, 
please) to go stupid $W way and restarted the laptop (was up for 2 and a half 
month, a shame to restart), and the problem was solved, ie: vlc starts and 
stops.
Thierry


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Re: Debian is a translation.

2013-02-03 Thread Martin Steigerwald

Am Sonntag, 3. Februar 2013 schrieb berenger.mo...@neutralite.org:
> Le 03.02.2013 10:05, Nuno Magalhães a écrit :
> > On Sun, Feb 3, 2013 at 7:40 AM,  
> > 
> > wrote:
> >> you will run localepurge.
> > 
> > Yup, that plus whichever locales you want usually does the trick,
> 
> Only the trick to clean installed files, not to avoid downloading them,
> afaik.
> So, we: download list of russian, greek, french... translations,
> install some package, install it in all languages, and thanks to
> localepurge, remove all of them, except the one(s) in which we are
> interested.

Yes. I think its a question of effort on the packaging side. For KDE and 
LibreOffice and Iceweasel you have one package per each language.

But for smaller stuff like coreutils, or smaller single applications it would 
mean creating one additional package for each language supported. This could 
blow the Debian package out of proportions quite a bit and possibly mean 
several ten thousands new packages.

Frankly, I can understand that Debian maintainers do not do the split for 
each single little package. Especially as with xz compression which is 
introduced to packages these times these translations will likely compress 
pretty well.

One could put all the translations for all packages in one package per 
language, but then you install translations of packages you didn´t have 
installed. So same issue from different angle.

I do think that the current choice is quite good balancing. And would only 
be convinced otherwise, if currently needlessly installed translations 
exceed a certain treshold of size. Maybe for some further packages with big 
translations a split makes sense, but then this I think needs to be decided 
on a case by case basis and backed by evidence (thus measuring the 
overhead). 

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Re: Anybody have a chromebook? Can it run Debian?

2013-02-03 Thread Miles Fidelman


Mark Allums wrote:

From: Chris Bannister [mailto:cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz]
On Sat, Feb 02, 2013 at 09:06:55PM -0600, zxcvbob wrote:

I have a different model Chromebook with an Atom processor and a
SSD. It should run Debian just fine; I have Debian on an older
netbook, but good luck installing it!  (My info is about a year old
and from memory)  Chromebook BIOS is locked-down pretty tight.  You
will have to find a "signed" installation distro and install it on
the chromebook in "Developer Mode."

Chrome OS runs on a Linux kernel, but the terminal has *very* few
commands, and you cannot get to the update manager or install any
Linux software.  You can install free "apps" from the Google store.

I presume the device can't be rooted. :( But if so, this may be worth a
look:

https://play.google.com/store/search?q=linux&c=apps&=en_GB

At least 1,000 results

It's been done.  I don't know which specific model, but you can use
developer mode in some to achieve root, and from then on, you can do what
you like.


Google
chromebook "developer mode"
and you'll find lots of detailed instructions, including this one:
https://sites.google.com/site/chromeoswikisite/home/what-s-new-in-dev-and-beta/developer-mode
which goes on to describe how to  how to install Ubuntu (not quite 
Debian, but close) and dual-boot it with ChromeOS





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Re: how to get missing multimedia packages

2013-02-03 Thread Pierre Frenkiel


On Mon, 28 Jan 2013, Rob Owens wrote:


I recommend you use the third-party deb-multimedia repository for those
packages.  I have them both installed from that repo and I've never had
any problems.  In fact, that repo has never given me any problems.  Of
course I'd prefer if I could get everything I want from Debian's main
repo, but currently that's not possible for me.


  I was rather reluctant to use a repo relying on only one man, but for the
  moment that seems easier than trying to compile every missing program.
  Do you have a preference file to set the priorities of debian /
  deb-multimedia repos? And if yes, what is its content?

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Re: Wheezy installation problem

2013-02-03 Thread Lucio Crusca

Petr Voralek wrote:
>   What did you use as partition table type?  

Tried both gpt and msdos (which I assume to actually be mbr), same error.



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PulseAudio--is there a viable alternative?

2013-02-03 Thread Carl Fink

So PulseAudio continues to be buggy to the point of infuriation. Developers,
after years of work, have signally failed to fix it.

Is eSound still usable? Mabye ALSA? Anything?
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Re: Debian Wheezy freezing

2013-02-03 Thread Sthu Deus

Good time of the day, William.

You wrote:

> 1) Which is better? Keep Debian Wheezy and compile a new kernel, or 
> upgrade to Debian Sid?

As many said, better to use other (newer) Debian repo.s. Consider
upgrades.

> 2) Have you guys compiled a kernel before? How it was? Can you
> provide me a good tutorial about it?

Yes. It is not hard. Even most default options will be OK - just
compile, install and use.

Sthu.

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64 bit Wheezy RAM Limitation

2013-02-03 Thread Stephen P. Molnar

Let me start with a disclaimer - I am not a hardware person!

 

I am using Oracle VirtualBox (v 4.2.6 r82870) as a testbed for Wheezy
Testing before upgrading my production linux computer.  The software is
installed on my 64 bit Dell Inspiron laptop with 8 GB of RAM running MS Win

7 Professional as the primary OS.

 

With a couple of exceptions that I attribute to a less than complete
understanding of the VirtualBox environment, Wheezy is performing well.

 

It was with a fair amount  of surprise that I discovered, entirely by
chance, that according to KInfoCenter that the system is using only 4.47 GB
of total physical memory!!! 

 

Googling 'Debian Wheezy 64 bit memory limitation' only turn up references to
Squeezy and the Debian Handbook doesn't seem to address the issue.

 

I would greatly appreciate being pointed to any sources of information about
this issue.  

 

Thanks in advance.

Re: PulseAudio--is there a viable alternative?

2013-02-03 Thread Thierry Chatelet

The Sunday 03 February 2013 15:28:35, Carl Fink wrote :
> So PulseAudio continues to be buggy to the point of infuriation.
> Developers, after years of work, have signally failed to fix it.
> 
> Is eSound still usable? Mabye ALSA? Anything?

You are hyjacking a thrad, so audio will be turn off, and you may not get an 
answer!!
Please start a new thread for a new help demand
Thierry


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Re: 64 bit Wheezy RAM Limitation

2013-02-03 Thread Sven Hartge

Stephen P. Molnar  wrote:
 
> It was with a fair amount  of surprise that I discovered, entirely by
> chance, that according to KInfoCenter that the system is using only
> 4.47 GB of total physical memory!!! 

Please post the output of "free" and the output of 
"dmesg | grep BIOS-e820". Those will provide more input for the list to
be able to help you.

Grüße,
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Re: Debian Wheezy freezing

2013-02-03 Thread Frank

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On 02/02/2013 12:36 PM, William Ivanski wrote:
> 
> I have a Lenovo laptop, with CPU Intel Core i5, which I use to
> work. I installed Debian Wheezy and the system freezes randomly. No
> response to keyboard or mouse clicks, just mouse moves. Needed to
> restart all the times.
> 
> I searched a lot about this problem, and many people suggest the 
> installation of a newer kernel (current is 3.2). Currently, on
> kernel.org, stable release is 3.7.5.
> 
> I never compiled a kernel before, so I am afraid of the problems
> it might create. I'm worried about virtualbox, which I installed
> through aptitude. I'm also considering upgrade to Debian unstable
> branch. It have a kernel newer than 3.2, doesn't it?
> 
> So my questions are:
> 
> 1) Which is better? Keep Debian Wheezy and compile a new kernel,
> or upgrade to Debian Sid? 2) Have you guys compiled a kernel
> before? How it was? Can you provide me a good tutorial about it?

I had exactly the same issue on my lenovo, I installed the
experimental kernel packages (linux-image-3.6-trunk-amd64 /
3.6.8-1~experimental.1), since then I've never had any more freezes.

There is no need to build your own kernel.

echo > "deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian experimental main" >>
/etc/apt/sources.list
apt-get update
apt-get install linux-image-3.6-trunk-amd64
linux-headers-3.6-trunk-all-amd64

I think meanwhile the kernel is 3.7...

Best
Frank


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Re: how to get missing multimedia packages

2013-02-03 Thread Brad Rogers

On Sun, 3 Feb 2013 14:49:22 +0100 (CET)
Pierre Frenkiel  wrote:

Hello Pierre,

>   I was rather reluctant to use a repo relying on only one man, but

Christian is a very conscientious person.  The DMO repo is very well
maintained.  Of course, it's entirely up to you whether you use it or
not.

>   Do you have a preference file to set the priorities of debian /
>   deb-multimedia repos? And if yes, what is its content?

I don't myself.  In fact, some of the DMO .debs /seem/, on the face of
it, to be available from regular the Debian repos.  I say seem, because
the DMO ones have stuff compiled in that would keep them out of the
usual repos.

In short, if there's a choice, opt for the the DMO version.  By and
large, without any pinning or whatnot, the DMO ones will be preferred
and used.

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Re: PulseAudio--is there a viable alternative?




Le 03.02.2013 15:28, Carl Fink a écrit :
So PulseAudio continues to be buggy to the point of infuriation. 
Developers,

after years of work, have signally failed to fix it.

Is eSound still usable? Mabye ALSA? Anything?
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I do not understand... for which use alsa does not work? It works 
perfectly here...



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Re: Network Sniffer

2013-02-03 Thread Meike Stone

Please keep on list!

>
>> The Question is, what you mean with "view the captured content".
>
> As I said before, for example, the text I send to a web site
> filling a form.

- google for a beginners guide how to use Wireshark and read !!!
- Install Wireshark on your client PC where you fill the form
(available for Linux and Windows).
- Start Wireshark, select the proper interface and start capture.
- Fill out your form on your web client and send it to the webserver
- Stop capturing on Wireshark and
- look/search for the packages who carry the information and see

Wireshark is able to decode a lot of protocols ...

> Or a password I send when authorizing (when plain).
- same as above

>
> In wire shark I saw that in RT.
>
> Can tcpdump show that?

- tcpdump is a online tool how capture and display the packages. But
you should only use it if you understand what you do.
- tcpdump can write all necessary packages in a file and later, you
can read and decode it with Wireshark.
If you want use tcpdump, you can do this on (web) server and/or web client, eg.:
tcpdump -i any -s0 -w /tmp/mycapturefile.pcap or
tcpdump port 80 -i any -s0 -w /tmp/mycapturefile.pcap # with filter

Please read the manual before you asking next!


Meike


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Re: PulseAudio--is there a viable alternative?

2013-02-03 Thread Yaro Kasear

On 02/03/13 08:28, Carl Fink wrote:
> So PulseAudio continues to be buggy to the point of infuriation. Developers,
> after years of work, have signally failed to fix it.
>
> Is eSound still usable? Mabye ALSA? Anything?
Just get rid of PA (Unless you're using GNOME 3) and just use ALSA
barebones (Or through your DE's audio library or daemon.). Despite
Lennart's claims to the contrary, ALSA works great without sound daemons
telling it what to do.

My experience is that PA causes more problems than it actually solves.


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Re: PulseAudio--is there a viable alternative?




Le 03.02.2013 17:21, Yaro Kasear a écrit :

On 02/03/13 08:28, Carl Fink wrote:
So PulseAudio continues to be buggy to the point of infuriation. 
Developers,

after years of work, have signally failed to fix it.

Is eSound still usable? Mabye ALSA? Anything?

Just get rid of PA (Unless you're using GNOME 3) and just use ALSA
barebones (Or through your DE's audio library or daemon.). Despite
Lennart's claims to the contrary, ALSA works great without sound 
daemons

telling it what to do.

My experience is that PA causes more problems than it actually 
solves.


Heh! You are wrong!
And I will say you why: because you can solve any problem by adding a 
level of indirection. Including the problem of having no problem ;)


Yes, I know, I am already out of here :D


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Re: 64 bit Wheezy RAM Limitation

2013-02-03 Thread Claudius Hubig

Dear Stephen,

please do not post HTML to the list[1].

Stephen P. Molnar wrote:
> I am using Oracle VirtualBox (v 4.2.6 r82870) as a testbed for Wheezy
> Testing before upgrading my production linux computer.  The software is
> installed on my 64 bit Dell Inspiron laptop with 8 GB of RAM running MS Win
> 7 Professional as the primary OS.
>
> With a couple of exceptions that I attribute to a less than complete
> understanding of the VirtualBox environment, Wheezy is performing well.

Are you running Wheezy _inside_ VirtualBox with Windows 7 as the host
OS, or is this a dual-boot system?

If the latter, wheezy should easily detect 8 GB and use them. In case
of the former, you probably only allocated 4.7 GB to Wheezy in the
VirtualBox configuration, hence the ‘computer’  Wheezy runs on only
has 4.7 GB.

Best,

Claudius

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FW: 64 bit Wheezy RAM Limitation

2013-02-03 Thread Stephen P. Molnar

Unfortunately, I didn't look at the addressees.


-Original Message-
From: Stephen P. Molnar [mailto:s.mol...@sbcglobal.net] 
Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2013 11:16 AM
To: 'Sven Hartge'
Subject: RE: 64 bit Wheezy RAM Limitation



-Original Message-
From: Sven Hartge [mailto:s...@svenhartge.de]
Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2013 10:27 AM
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: 64 bit Wheezy RAM Limitation

Stephen P. Molnar  wrote:
 
> It was with a fair amount  of surprise that I discovered, entirely by 
> chance, that according to KInfoCenter that the system is using only
> 4.47 GB of total physical memory!!! 

Please post the output of "free" and the output of "dmesg | grep BIOS-e820". 
Those will provide more input for the list to be able to help you.

Grüße,
Sven.

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Thanks for your reply.  Here's what you asked, both a user and as su:

computation@debian:~$ free
 total   used   free sharedbuffers cached
Mem:   497263613058803666756  0  86828 668240
-/+ buffers/cache: 5508124421824
Swap: 10236924  0   10236924
computation@debian:~$ dmesg | grep BIOS-e820
[0.00]  BIOS-e820:  - 0009fc00 (usable)
[0.00]  BIOS-e820: 0009fc00 - 000a (reserved)
[0.00]  BIOS-e820: 000f - 0010 (reserved)
[0.00]  BIOS-e820: 0010 - dfff (usable)
[0.00]  BIOS-e820: dfff - e000 (ACPI data)
[0.00]  BIOS-e820: fffc - 0001 (reserved)
[0.00]  BIOS-e820: 0001 - 00015880 (usable)
computation@debian:~$ su
Password: 
root@debian:/home/computation# free
 total   used   free sharedbuffers cached
Mem:   497263613102483662388  0  86868 675764
-/+ buffers/cache: 5476164425020
Swap: 10236924  0   10236924
root@debian:/home/computation# dmesg | grep BIOS-e820
[0.00]  BIOS-e820:  - 0009fc00 (usable)
[0.00]  BIOS-e820: 0009fc00 - 000a (reserved)
[0.00]  BIOS-e820: 000f - 0010 (reserved)
[0.00]  BIOS-e820: 0010 - dfff (usable)
[0.00]  BIOS-e820: dfff - e000 (ACPI data)
[0.00]  BIOS-e820: fffc - 0001 (reserved)
[0.00]  BIOS-e820: 0001 - 00015880 (usable)




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Re: 64 bit Wheezy RAM Limitation

2013-02-03 Thread Stan Hoeppner

On 2/3/2013 8:56 AM, Stephen P. Molnar wrote:

> I am using Oracle VirtualBox (v 4.2.6 r82870) as a testbed for Wheezy
> Testing before upgrading my production linux computer.  The software is
> installed on my 64 bit Dell Inspiron laptop with 8 GB of RAM running MS Win
> 
> 7 Professional as the primary OS.
...
> KInfoCenter ...using only 4.47 GB

Debian  Debian
   |   |
Virtual Hardware
  Box
   |
Windows
   |
Hardware

Windows 7 and Virtual box are likely using and reserving RAM for the
Windows environment, and allocating some amount to the virtual machine.
 In this case that' appears to be 4.5 to 5GB.

Reading the VirtualBox documentation will very likely answer all of your
questions relating to this.  The "problem" is almost certainly not with
Debian.  There's probably a menu box somewhere that allows you to
configure the amount of memory for the virtual machine.

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RE: 64 bit Wheezy RAM Limitation

2013-02-03 Thread Stephen P. Molnar


-Original Message-
From: Claudius Hubig [mailto:debian_1...@chubig.net] 
Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2013 11:34 AM
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: 64 bit Wheezy RAM Limitation

Dear Stephen,

please do not post HTML to the list[1].

Stephen P. Molnar wrote:
> I am using Oracle VirtualBox (v 4.2.6 r82870) as a testbed for Wheezy 
> Testing before upgrading my production linux computer.  The software 
> is installed on my 64 bit Dell Inspiron laptop with 8 GB of RAM 
> running MS Win
> 7 Professional as the primary OS.
>
> With a couple of exceptions that I attribute to a less than complete 
> understanding of the VirtualBox environment, Wheezy is performing well.

Are you running Wheezy _inside_ VirtualBox with Windows 7 as the host OS, or is 
this a dual-boot system?

If the latter, wheezy should easily detect 8 GB and use them. In case of the 
former, you probably only allocated 4.7 GB to Wheezy in the VirtualBox 
configuration, hence the ‘computer’  Wheezy runs on only has 4.7 GB.

Best,

Claudius

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Ah.  That's the answer.  Entirely my fault, I only allowed 5GB to the client.
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[Possibly OT] Hauppague WinTV card lost sound

2013-02-03 Thread Brad Alexander

I have a Hauppauge 44801 WinTV-GO in my wife's computer, plugged in to
cable, so she can watch TV through tvtime on her sid machine. This
past week, sound stopped in the tvtime app. Sound works in everything
else, but not through the card. I tried plugging the speakers directly
in to the line out on the TV card, and got silence. I've adjusted the
sound levels in aumix.

The odd thing is that this happened with an older version of the same
card a few months ago, so I ordered a refurbished one to replace it,
and this happens again to the same card.

Is there anything more I can do to troubleshoot the sound issues?
Could thi sbe an issue with pulse audio? I have the following
installed of pulse:

dpkg -l | grep pulse
ii gstreamer0.10-pulseaudio:amd64 0.10.31-3+nmu1
amd64GStreamer plugin for PulseAudio
ii libpulse-mainloop-glib0:amd64 2.0-6
amd64PulseAudio client libraries (glib support)
ii libpulse0:amd642.0-6
amd64PulseAudio client libraries
ii pulseaudio 2.0-6
amd64PulseAudio sound server
ii pulseaudio-module-x11 2.0-6
amd64X11 module for PulseAudio sound server
ii pulseaudio-utils 2.0-6
amd64Command line tools for the PulseAudio sound server
ii vlc-plugin-pulse 1:2.0.5-dmo1
amd64PulseAudio plugin for VLC

Thanks,
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Re: FW: 64 bit Wheezy RAM Limitation

2013-02-03 Thread Sven Hartge

Stephen P. Molnar  wrote:

> computation@debian:~$ free
> total   used   free sharedbuffers cached
> Mem:   497263613058803666756  0  86828 668240
> -/+ buffers/cache: 5508124421824
> Swap: 10236924  0   10236924
> computation@debian:~$ dmesg | grep BIOS-e820
> [0.00]  BIOS-e820:  - 0009fc00 (usable)
> [0.00]  BIOS-e820: 0009fc00 - 000a (reserved)
> [0.00]  BIOS-e820: 000f - 0010 (reserved)
> [0.00]  BIOS-e820: 0010 - dfff (usable)
> [0.00]  BIOS-e820: dfff - e000 (ACPI data)
> [0.00]  BIOS-e820: fffc - 0001 (reserved)
> [0.00]  BIOS-e820: 0001 - 00015880 (usable)

So the upper memory limit is 0x15880 bytes, which equals 5779750912
bytes in decimal. Subtracting the reserved and ACPI data regions results
5242747904 bytes or 5119871 kbytes of usable memory. The kernel uses
some of that for itself (147235 kbytes in your case) and the rest is
usable for processes.

Now, the interesting part is: how much memory did you tell Virtualbox to
give to your VM? It is _not_ wise to use all memory the host has
available because this will then starve the host itself, rendering it
nearly unusable.

But this is no Wheezy (or Debian or Linux) problem, it is a VirtualBox
configuration issue.

Grüße,
Sven.

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Re: how to get missing multimedia packages

2013-02-03 Thread Rob Owens

On Sun, Feb 03, 2013 at 02:49:22PM +0100, Pierre Frenkiel wrote:
> On Mon, 28 Jan 2013, Rob Owens wrote:
> 
> >I recommend you use the third-party deb-multimedia repository for those
> >packages.  I have them both installed from that repo and I've never had
> >any problems.  In fact, that repo has never given me any problems.  Of
> >course I'd prefer if I could get everything I want from Debian's main
> >repo, but currently that's not possible for me.
> 
>   I was rather reluctant to use a repo relying on only one man, but for the
>   moment that seems easier than trying to compile every missing program.
>   Do you have a preference file to set the priorities of debian /
>   deb-multimedia repos? And if yes, what is its content?
> 
I've reported bugs in packaging to Christian on the mailing list, and
he's fixed them in 1 or 2 days.  I guess he never goes on vacation...

I don't use any pinning for deb-multimedia.  I suppose if you wanted you
could pin it to 200 if you wanted to prevent apt from "updating"
packages in debian main with packages from deb-multimedia.  There are a
couple of packages that exist in both repos, because deb-multimedia has
additional features enabled that Debian doesn't allow for reasons of
legality, free-ness, etc.

-Rob


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Re: Wheezy installation problem

2013-02-03 Thread Bob Proulx

Lucio Crusca wrote:
> The installation starts normally, it leads me through all the steps, it 
> formats the filesystem, copies files, but in the end GRUB installation 
> fails. I've tried both UEFI and CSM bios settings with no luck, always same 
> error:
> 
>  [!!] install GRUB boot loader on disk
> Installation step failed
> 
> or something like that, I just can't copy and paste.
> 
> Unfortunately even the 4th console does not say anything useful, like the 
> reason why it failed. Dmesg doesn't say a thing about this.

The only time I have ever had this problem was with a previous Debian
release (Etch 4.0 or Lenny 5.0, don't remember) and setting up the
root filesystem on lvm *without* a separate /boot partition.  However
I believe that is handled correctly with the current release and
later.

But this leads me to believe that the problem must be associated with
how the disk is partitioned.  And since you are setting up raid that
will be the most complicated choices made during operating the
installer.

> I have two SATA disks 1TB each in software RAID, but I've already tried 
> using only one disk without raid and with only 1 partition and obtained the 
> same error.

That would have been my suggestion.  If you didn't select the simplest
options then I would double check with a single disk and make sure
that there isn't any raid or lvm being used for the "simple" test.

My next suggestion would be to use the install media as a rescue
system.  (I have been suggesting that a lot lately.  Sorry for being
so repetitive but it seems useful here too.)  Here about half way down
this previous posting is where I described it in most detail so I
won't repeat that part here again.

  http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2013/01/msg01127.html

After booting the rescue and launching a full bash shell you should be
able to have access to the network and to run full commands.  That
will be useful for debugging.  You can run commands and save off the
output as needed.  I would typically set up remote sshd login
capability and log in remotely from another machine and debug from
there.  Can then cut and paste easily.  In either case you should be
able to run 'grub-install' manually from the command line at that
point and any errors it produces will be immediately available.

  root@example:~# grub-install /dev/sda

If it produces any errors those will now be visible directly without
the debian-installer needing to be in the middle of the interface.

Bob

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Re: how to get missing multimedia packages

2013-02-03 Thread Tixy

On Sun, 2013-02-03 at 13:05 -0500, Rob Owens wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 03, 2013 at 02:49:22PM +0100, Pierre Frenkiel wrote:
> > On Mon, 28 Jan 2013, Rob Owens wrote:
> > 
> > >I recommend you use the third-party deb-multimedia repository for those
> > >packages.  I have them both installed from that repo and I've never had
> > >any problems.  In fact, that repo has never given me any problems.  Of
> > >course I'd prefer if I could get everything I want from Debian's main
> > >repo, but currently that's not possible for me.
> > 
> >   I was rather reluctant to use a repo relying on only one man, but for the
> >   moment that seems easier than trying to compile every missing program.
> >   Do you have a preference file to set the priorities of debian /
> >   deb-multimedia repos? And if yes, what is its content?
> > 
> I've reported bugs in packaging to Christian on the mailing list, and
> he's fixed them in 1 or 2 days.  I guess he never goes on vacation...
> 
> I don't use any pinning for deb-multimedia.  I suppose if you wanted you
> could pin it to 200 if you wanted to prevent apt from "updating"
> packages in debian main with packages from deb-multimedia.  There are a
> couple of packages that exist in both repos, 

There seems to be a lots of packages in both repos, deb-multimedia has
its own version of loads of the AV libraries and it uses a higher epoch
in the version number to force them to be preferred over the official
libraries.

Basically, without using pinning to stop apt pulling in deb-multimedia
packages you will get quite a few unofficial packages. (On my fairly
minimal LXDE install 19 packages would be 'upgraded' if I deleted my
pinning - which is to the following in /etc/apt/preferences

Package: *
Pin: origin www.deb-multimedia.org
Pin-Priority: 100

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Re: Help with NIS+NFS in Squeeze

2013-02-03 Thread Bob Proulx

Markos wrote:
> I'm trying to configure the services NIS+NFS in a small network (7 PCs),
> all running Squeeze.

Okay.  Sounds good.

> The NIS service seems to be working

Good.

> but NFS don't mounts the /home partition on the clients during boot.

Focus only on the NFS part of the debugging.  Do not be distracted by
the NIS/yp part.  They may work together in supporting roles but they
are completely independent subsystems.

> But I can manually mount the /home partition on the clients with the
> command:
> 
> mount 192.168.0.1:/home /home

Good.

> I found the strange message in dmesg:
> 
> svc: failed to register lockdv1 RPC service (errno 97)

I am unfamiliar with that error and searching didn't turn up anything
for certain either.

> How can I discover what is wrong?

Almost always the information will be logged in /var/log/syslog and
hopefully there will be clues there.  Start by looking there.

Thanks for including much information.  However the file I am
interested in is /etc/network/interfaces.  The new device way is to
support a hotpluggable event driven system.  That may be incompatible
with the traditional nfs mounted home directory environment.
Specifically you probably have this:

  allow-hotplug eth0

Try changing that line to:

  auto eth0

Then instead of using the new event driven control flow at boot time
it will use the old legacy start-at-boot time control flow.  This will
also re-enable use of 'service networking restart' as one of the
working ways to restart the network.

If the problem isolates itself to just that change then please file a
bug with the details.  I happen to be running with 'auto' for other
reasons and nis/yp with nfs mounted home direcotries is working fine
for me.

> In file /etc/fstab I included the line
> 192.168.10.101:/home /home nfs 
> rw,bg,tcp,rsize=32768,wsize=32768,hard,nointr,nolock,noac,timeo=600,user,auto 
> 0 0

Secondly I would test it without the 'bg' option in the /etc/fstab.
This is a philosophical issue but if the machine needs /home to be
useful then I believe it should wait for it to be available before
presenting a login to a user.  Otherwise the user will be confused
that they can log in but don't have a home directory.

> echo + >> /etc/passwd
> echo + >> /etc/group
> echo + >> /etc/shadow
> echo + >> /etc/gshadow

I know that is the legacy way but personally these days I prefer to
use this configuration instead.  It is simpler.

In /etc/nsswitch.conf file:

  passwd: files nis
  group:  files nis
  shadow: files nis

Bob

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Re: [Possibly OT] Hauppague WinTV card lost sound

2013-02-03 Thread Brad Alexander

I know it is bad form to respond to one's own post, but I have swapped
the Hauppague card, and have exactly the same symptoms. I suspect it
is something with either pulse.

Suggestions?


On Sun, Feb 3, 2013 at 12:01 PM, Brad Alexander  wrote:
> I have a Hauppauge 44801 WinTV-GO in my wife's computer, plugged in to
> cable, so she can watch TV through tvtime on her sid machine. This
> past week, sound stopped in the tvtime app. Sound works in everything
> else, but not through the card. I tried plugging the speakers directly
> in to the line out on the TV card, and got silence. I've adjusted the
> sound levels in aumix.
>
> The odd thing is that this happened with an older version of the same
> card a few months ago, so I ordered a refurbished one to replace it,
> and this happens again to the same card.
>
> Is there anything more I can do to troubleshoot the sound issues?
> Could thi sbe an issue with pulse audio? I have the following
> installed of pulse:
>
> dpkg -l | grep pulse
> ii  gstreamer0.10-pulseaudio:amd64 0.10.31-3+nmu1
>amd64GStreamer plugin for PulseAudio
> ii  libpulse-mainloop-glib0:amd64  2.0-6
>amd64PulseAudio client libraries (glib support)
> ii  libpulse0:amd642.0-6
>amd64PulseAudio client libraries
> ii  pulseaudio 2.0-6
>amd64PulseAudio sound server
> ii  pulseaudio-module-x11  2.0-6
>amd64X11 module for PulseAudio sound server
> ii  pulseaudio-utils   2.0-6
>amd64Command line tools for the PulseAudio sound server
> ii  vlc-plugin-pulse   1:2.0.5-dmo1
>amd64PulseAudio plugin for VLC
>
> Thanks,
> --b


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Re: [Possibly OT] Hauppague WinTV card lost sound

2013-02-03 Thread Markus Hagl

Hi Brad,
did you check the alsamixer?


2013/2/3 Brad Alexander 

> I know it is bad form to respond to one's own post, but I have swapped
> the Hauppague card, and have exactly the same symptoms. I suspect it
> is something with either pulse.
>
> Suggestions?
>
>
> On Sun, Feb 3, 2013 at 12:01 PM, Brad Alexander  wrote:
> > I have a Hauppauge 44801 WinTV-GO in my wife's computer, plugged in to
> > cable, so she can watch TV through tvtime on her sid machine. This
> > past week, sound stopped in the tvtime app. Sound works in everything
> > else, but not through the card. I tried plugging the speakers directly
> > in to the line out on the TV card, and got silence. I've adjusted the
> > sound levels in aumix.
> >
> > The odd thing is that this happened with an older version of the same
> > card a few months ago, so I ordered a refurbished one to replace it,
> > and this happens again to the same card.
> >
> > Is there anything more I can do to troubleshoot the sound issues?
> > Could thi sbe an issue with pulse audio? I have the following
> > installed of pulse:
> >
> > dpkg -l | grep pulse
> > ii  gstreamer0.10-pulseaudio:amd64 0.10.31-3+nmu1
> >amd64GStreamer plugin for PulseAudio
> > ii  libpulse-mainloop-glib0:amd64  2.0-6
> >amd64PulseAudio client libraries (glib support)
> > ii  libpulse0:amd642.0-6
> >amd64PulseAudio client libraries
> > ii  pulseaudio 2.0-6
> >amd64PulseAudio sound server
> > ii  pulseaudio-module-x11  2.0-6
> >amd64X11 module for PulseAudio sound server
> > ii  pulseaudio-utils   2.0-6
> >amd64Command line tools for the PulseAudio sound server
> > ii  vlc-plugin-pulse   1:2.0.5-dmo1
> >amd64PulseAudio plugin for VLC
> >
> > Thanks,
> > --b
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Re: PulseAudio--is there a viable alternative?

2013-02-03 Thread dAgeCKo





Le 03.02.2013 17:21, Yaro Kasear a écrit :

On 02/03/13 08:28, Carl Fink wrote:

So PulseAudio continues to be buggy to the point of infuriation.
Developers,
after years of work, have signally failed to fix it.

Is eSound still usable? Mabye ALSA? Anything?


I personally use Alsa only and remove all the pulseaudio packages that I 
can. Just because pulseaudio makes things very bad with jack, for example.


The big problem with this is that more and more programs tend to use 
pulseaudio (Gnome, Kdevelop, other kde apps, VLC, ...)



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rootkithunter gives warnings for sh and perl

Hello,

rkhunter gives warnings for sh and perl:

[23:01:57] Warning: The file properties have changed:
[23:01:57]  File: /bin/sh
[23:01:57]  Current hash: add19e504c254758f2ea8dcda3821c77fafb4923 
[23:01:57]  Stored hash : 3e4f053d7520819f5e45a7792c972b05e4ff234e 
[23:01:57]  Current inode: 1958022Stored inode: 1957896
[23:01:57]  Current file modification time: 1359928637 (03-Feb-2013 
22:57:17) 
[23:01:57]  Stored file modification time : 1342538237 (17-Jul-2012 
17:17:17)


[23:02:04] Warning: The file properties have changed:
[23:02:04]  File: /usr/bin/perl
[23:02:04]  Current hash: 13e50d52280d120bf8c71c7eaf4e7431c9afa392 
[23:02:04]  Stored hash : f62bbb9e85d386d16f97ea0f3e8afaaf36a36696
[23:02:04]  Current inode: 65882Stored inode: 66294
[23:02:04]  Current file modification time: 1355246023 (11-Dec-2012 
18:13:43) 
[23:02:04]  Stored file modification time : 1324459850 (21-Dec-2011 
10:30:50)

When I reinstall dash (delivers /bin/sh) and perl these warning don't
go away.

Any idea?

Thanks.


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Re: rootkithunter gives warnings for sh and perl

On Sun, 3 Feb 2013 23:13:59 +0100
sp11  wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> rkhunter gives warnings for sh and perl:
> 
> [23:01:57] Warning: The file properties have changed:
> [23:01:57]  File: /bin/sh
> [23:01:57]  Current hash:
> add19e504c254758f2ea8dcda3821c77fafb4923 [23:01:57]  Stored
> hash : 3e4f053d7520819f5e45a7792c972b05e4ff234e [23:01:57]
> Current inode: 1958022Stored inode: 1957896 [23:01:57]
> Current file modification time: 1359928637 (03-Feb-2013 22:57:17)
> [23:01:57]  Stored file modification time : 1342538237
> (17-Jul-2012 17:17:17)
> 
> 
> [23:02:04] Warning: The file properties have changed:
> [23:02:04]  File: /usr/bin/perl
> [23:02:04]  Current hash:
> 13e50d52280d120bf8c71c7eaf4e7431c9afa392 [23:02:04]  Stored
> hash : f62bbb9e85d386d16f97ea0f3e8afaaf36a36696 [23:02:04]
> Current inode: 65882Stored inode: 66294 [23:02:04]
> Current file modification time: 1355246023 (11-Dec-2012 18:13:43)
> [23:02:04]  Stored file modification time : 1324459850
> (21-Dec-2011 10:30:50)
> 
> When I reinstall dash (delivers /bin/sh) and perl these warning don't
> go away.
> 
> Any idea?
> 
> Thanks.

I forgot to mention this is on a Squeeze amd64 system.


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Re: rootkithunter gives warnings for sh and perl

2013-02-03 Thread Bob Proulx

sp11 wrote:
> [23:01:57] Warning: The file properties have changed:

Changed from what?

> [23:01:57]  File: /bin/sh
> [23:01:57]  Current hash: add19e504c254758f2ea8dcda3821c77fafb4923 
> [23:01:57]  Stored hash : 3e4f053d7520819f5e45a7792c972b05e4ff234e 
> [23:01:57]  Current inode: 1958022Stored inode: 1957896
> [23:01:57]  Current file modification time: 1359928637 (03-Feb-2013 
> 22:57:17) 
> [23:01:57]  Stored file modification time : 1342538237 (17-Jul-2012 
> 17:17:17)
> 
> 
> [23:02:04] Warning: The file properties have changed:
> [23:02:04]  File: /usr/bin/perl
> [23:02:04]  Current hash: 13e50d52280d120bf8c71c7eaf4e7431c9afa392 
> [23:02:04]  Stored hash : f62bbb9e85d386d16f97ea0f3e8afaaf36a36696

On my up to date Squeeze amd64 system:

  $ sha1sum /bin/bash /usr/bin/perl
  add19e504c254758f2ea8dcda3821c77fafb4923  /bin/bash
  13e50d52280d120bf8c71c7eaf4e7431c9afa392  /usr/bin/perl

They match your versions.  So I would say that whatever is happening
here that it is a false positive.

I would guess that rkhunter has cached values for those files and that
those cached values are stale.  Figure out where it is getting those
stored values from and update them.

Bob


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Re: rootkithunter gives warnings for sh and perl

2013-02-03 Thread Andre Müller

Try rkhunter --update
Then check your system again. I don't have installed this tool.

2013/2/3 Bob Proulx :
> sp11 wrote:
>> [23:01:57] Warning: The file properties have changed:
>
> Changed from what?
>
>> [23:01:57]  File: /bin/sh
>> [23:01:57]  Current hash: add19e504c254758f2ea8dcda3821c77fafb4923
>> [23:01:57]  Stored hash : 3e4f053d7520819f5e45a7792c972b05e4ff234e
>> [23:01:57]  Current inode: 1958022Stored inode: 1957896
>> [23:01:57]  Current file modification time: 1359928637 (03-Feb-2013 
>> 22:57:17)
>> [23:01:57]  Stored file modification time : 1342538237 (17-Jul-2012 
>> 17:17:17)
>>
>>
>> [23:02:04] Warning: The file properties have changed:
>> [23:02:04]  File: /usr/bin/perl
>> [23:02:04]  Current hash: 13e50d52280d120bf8c71c7eaf4e7431c9afa392
>> [23:02:04]  Stored hash : f62bbb9e85d386d16f97ea0f3e8afaaf36a36696
>
> On my up to date Squeeze amd64 system:
>
>   $ sha1sum /bin/bash /usr/bin/perl
>   add19e504c254758f2ea8dcda3821c77fafb4923  /bin/bash
>   13e50d52280d120bf8c71c7eaf4e7431c9afa392  /usr/bin/perl
>
> They match your versions.  So I would say that whatever is happening
> here that it is a false positive.
>
> I would guess that rkhunter has cached values for those files and that
> those cached values are stale.  Figure out where it is getting those
> stored values from and update them.
>
> Bob


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Re: rootkithunter gives warnings for sh and perl

2013-02-03 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom


sp11 wrote:

Hello,

rkhunter gives warnings for sh and perl:

[23:01:57] Warning: The file properties have changed:
[23:01:57]  File: /bin/sh
[23:01:57]  Current hash: add19e504c254758f2ea8dcda3821c77fafb4923 
[23:01:57]  Stored hash : 3e4f053d7520819f5e45a7792c972b05e4ff234e 
[23:01:57]  Current inode: 1958022Stored inode: 1957896
[23:01:57]  Current file modification time: 1359928637 (03-Feb-2013 22:57:17) 
[23:01:57]  Stored file modification time : 1342538237 (17-Jul-2012 17:17:17)



[23:02:04] Warning: The file properties have changed:
[23:02:04]  File: /usr/bin/perl
[23:02:04]  Current hash: 13e50d52280d120bf8c71c7eaf4e7431c9afa392 
[23:02:04]  Stored hash : f62bbb9e85d386d16f97ea0f3e8afaaf36a36696

[23:02:04]  Current inode: 65882Stored inode: 66294
[23:02:04]  Current file modification time: 1355246023 (11-Dec-2012 18:13:43) 
[23:02:04]  Stored file modification time : 1324459850 (21-Dec-2011 10:30:50)


When I reinstall dash (delivers /bin/sh) and perl these warning don't
go away.

Any idea?



run 'rkhunter --propupd' first and then 'rkhunter -c'

Hugo


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Re: rootkithunter gives warnings for sh and perl.SOLVED

On Sun, 3 Feb 2013 15:49:33 -0700
Bob Proulx  wrote:

> sp11 wrote:
> > [23:01:57] Warning: The file properties have changed:
> 
> Changed from what?
> 
> > [23:01:57]  File: /bin/sh
> > [23:01:57]  Current hash:
> > add19e504c254758f2ea8dcda3821c77fafb4923 [23:01:57]  Stored
> > hash : 3e4f053d7520819f5e45a7792c972b05e4ff234e [23:01:57]
> > Current inode: 1958022Stored inode: 1957896 [23:01:57]
> > Current file modification time: 1359928637 (03-Feb-2013 22:57:17)
> > [23:01:57]  Stored file modification time : 1342538237
> > (17-Jul-2012 17:17:17)
> > 
> > 
> > [23:02:04] Warning: The file properties have changed:
> > [23:02:04]  File: /usr/bin/perl
> > [23:02:04]  Current hash:
> > 13e50d52280d120bf8c71c7eaf4e7431c9afa392 [23:02:04]  Stored
> > hash : f62bbb9e85d386d16f97ea0f3e8afaaf36a36696
> 
> On my up to date Squeeze amd64 system:
> 
>   $ sha1sum /bin/bash /usr/bin/perl
>   add19e504c254758f2ea8dcda3821c77fafb4923  /bin/bash
>   13e50d52280d120bf8c71c7eaf4e7431c9afa392  /usr/bin/perl
> 
> They match your versions.  So I would say that whatever is happening
> here that it is a false positive.
> 
> I would guess that rkhunter has cached values for those files and that
> those cached values are stale.  Figure out where it is getting those
> stored values from and update them.
> 
> Bob

Then the values in /var/lib/rkhunter/db/rkhunter.dat are wrong.
I reinstalled rkhunter and the warnings don't appear now.

Thanks fot ypur prompt answer!


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Use of storage.

2013-02-03 Thread peasthope

Typically an application uses storage _via_ filesystem operations; 
opening a file, reading from it, writing to it and etc.

Is there any instance where an application works with a partition 
directly?  For a hypothetical example, a database application might 
create and use a file system in a storage volume without involvement 
of the OS.  Does any such thing exist in practical use?

Thanks,   ... Peter E.

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Re: Use of storage.

2013-02-03 Thread emmanuel segura

Oracle ASM, mysql innodb
http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/innodb-raw-devices.html

2013/2/3 

> Typically an application uses storage _via_ filesystem operations;
> opening a file, reading from it, writing to it and etc.
>
> Is there any instance where an application works with a partition
> directly?  For a hypothetical example, a database application might
> create and use a file system in a storage volume without involvement
> of the OS.  Does any such thing exist in practical use?
>
> Thanks,   ... Peter E.
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Questions about multi-arch and 3rd party packages in Wheezy

2013-02-03 Thread Marc Shapiro

I am testing an upgrade from Squeeze to Wheezy AMD64 on my system. I 
made copies of all partitions except for /usr/local and /home, modified 
/etc/fstab and /etc/lilo.conf on the new / partition, reran lilo 
rebooted.  The system rebooted with no problems.


Then I started the upgrade process:

First, I uninstalled icaclient (Citrix Receiver) and moneyguru, both of 
which were using ia32-libs.


Next, I changed /etc/apt/sources.list to point to Wheezy, ran 'apt-get 
update' and 'apt-get upgrade'.  That process was uneventful, so I 
upgraded the kernel and udev, verified that /etc/lilo.conf was as I 
wanted it, reran lilo and rebooted.  Still good, so I ran 'apt-get 
dist-upgrade'.  After a significant amount of time the upgrade finished 
and I successfully rebooted. Everything good so far.


Now it was time to reinstall the icaclient.  I enabled i386 in multiarch 
with
'dpkg --add-architecture i386' and 'apt-get update' as mentioned in the 
release notes.


and then tried to install icaclient with ' dpkg -i 
icaclient-12.1.0_i386.deb' since it is a third party package and not in 
the debian repositories.  Unfortunately, dpkg does not automatically 
handle dependancies, like agt-get and aptitude do, so I get a list of 
dependencies, all i386 libraries.  Is there any way to install such a 
package and get the dependant libraries installed other than manually 
installing each one?  I would rather have them installed and marked as 
automatically installed so that if a true 64 bit version becomes 
available and I remove the i386 version and install the AMD64 version 
then the i386 libs that are no longer required would be removed.


Marc

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