Re: GRUB location on Dual-Boot with TWO hard drives
On Sunday 14 October 2012 21:43:59 Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Sun, 2012-10-14 at 21:36 +0100, Lisi wrote: > > su > > is enough. > > No, it should be > > su - lisi@Tux-II:~$ su Password: root@Tux-II:/home/lisi# whoami root root@Tux-II:/home/lisi# > > alt-F2 > > gksu gedit > > That's good > > gksu app > > my recommendation > > su -c app > > isn't good. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201210190941.00314.lisi.re...@gmail.com
How APT signs packages
Hi, Where can I find an uptodate description of exactly how PGP is used by APT in packaging? I can't find the source any more but I got the impression that the individual packages were not signed but merely checksummed and that the list of checksums was the only thing that was actually signed. What is the real situation? Regards, /Lars -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/alpine.bso.2.02.1210191228260.11...@yeeloong.dhcp.inet.fi
Re: Install Debian on a UEFI-motherboard ?
On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 09:10:56PM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Thu, 2012-10-18 at 17:29 +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote: > > Tom Rausner wrote: > > >Hi Folks. > > >I have a tower PC with a serious motherboard problem. > > >It is unable to pass data from one place (say the harddisk) > > >to another (say a CDROM), without drowning it in errors. > > >I think some pathways in the motherboard is broken, so I want to > > >replace it. BUT most of the motherboards on the market doesn't > > >have an old-style BIOS, they've got the UEFI-thing. So the question > > >is; can I replace my motherboard with one infested with the UEFI-thing > > >and get a Debian install to work on it ? > > > > Hi Tom, > > > > I know we're a few weeks on from when you asked, but... > > > > As of today, we now have official debian-installer test CDs that > > should work for installing on UEFI systems. See > > > > http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2012/10/msg7.html > > > > for more details about the release. > > Can't UEFI be disabled on most mobos? Yes, but why would you want to? On plenty of SATA-carrying motherboards, the controller can be switched from native AHCI to an IDE emulation. Similarly, other features of other motherboards can be switched off as desired. But if you have the newer, advanced features it's nice to have an operating system that exploits them. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: How APT signs packages
On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 12:28:36PM +0300, Lars Nooden wrote: > Hi, > > Where can I find an uptodate description of exactly how PGP is used by APT > in packaging? I can't find the source any more but I got the impression > that the individual packages were not signed but merely checksummed and > that the list of checksums was the only thing that was actually signed. > What is the real situation? That is true. As described here[1], the package checksums are stores in the "Packages" file, the checksums for the "Packages" file are stored in the "Release" file and the release file is GPG signed. So you have a chain of fidelity from Releases to the package and a chain of trust from yourself to the Releases. [1] http://wiki.debian.org/SecureApt > > Regards, > /Lars > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org > Archive: > http://lists.debian.org/alpine.bso.2.02.1210191228260.11...@yeeloong.dhcp.inet.fi > signature.asc Description: Digital signature
CUPS is not broadcasting printers
Hi, my new CUPS Server (1.4.4-7+sq) is not broadcasting any printer queues to the LAN. The required avahi (dnssd) daemon is up and running. Avahi also distributes printers that I have manually creates in the /etc/avahi/services directory, but not the printers that have been configured in CUPS. I searched around and found an interesting discussion about a bug in CUPS (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cups/+bug/465916) which points into the direction of a new avahi api not used by cups. I wonder that this bug is still around and how all cups servers in the world broadcast their printers with squeeze today. Any ideas? Regards horst --- /etc/cups/cupsd.conf --- BrowseOrder allow,deny BrowseAllow all BrowseRemoteProtocols CUPS BrowseAddress @LOCAL BrowseLocalProtocols CUPS dnssd DefaultAuthType Basic # Allow shared printing... Order allow,deny Allow from all # Restrict access to the admin pages... Order allow,deny .
Re: How APT signs packages
On Fri, 19 Oct 2012, Darac Marjal wrote: > On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 12:28:36PM +0300, Lars Nooden wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Where can I find an uptodate description of exactly how PGP is used by APT > > in packaging? I can't find the source any more but I got the impression > > that the individual packages were not signed but merely checksummed and > > that the list of checksums was the only thing that was actually signed. > > What is the real situation? > > That is true. As described here[1], the package checksums are stores in > the "Packages" file, the checksums for the "Packages" file are stored in > the "Release" file and the release file is GPG signed. So you have a > chain of fidelity from Releases to the package and a chain of trust from > yourself to the Releases. > > [1] http://wiki.debian.org/SecureApt Thanks. The weak point, relatively speaking, looks to be the MD5 checksums in Releases. The link above [1] says "MD5 is now a broken hash function, and should be replaced for all security-minded usages." Out of curiosity, what are the plans then for moving up to SHA256 or better? Regards, /Lars -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/alpine.bso.2.02.1210191311000.11...@yeeloong.dhcp.inet.fi
Re: How APT signs packages
Hello there,
On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 01:14:44PM +0300, Lars Nooden wrote:
> On Fri, 19 Oct 2012, Darac Marjal wrote:
> > [...]
> > [1] http://wiki.debian.org/SecureApt
>
> Thanks. The weak point, relatively speaking, looks to be the MD5
> checksums in Releases. The link above [1] says "MD5 is now a broken hash
> function, and should be replaced for all security-minded usages."
>
> Out of curiosity, what are the plans then for moving up to SHA256 or
> better?
There aren't any. That is, there aren't any such plans *anymore*, as
SHA256 is already in use and that page is partially misleading, cf.
- 8< -
What does it mean for md5sum to be broken? Since it's a checksum, I
thought the only way it can be broken is that it fail to compute the
proper checksum. I have a feeling some other meaning is intended.
--RossBoylan
**it is broken as people were able to actually create a fake certificate
that could sign anything and was trusted, they did this by finding a
collision, they created a certificate that had the same md5 sum as the
certificate they were issued, and where thereby able to give themselves
right other than they were granted.--Scientes
***apt has supported sha256 checksums since version 0.7.7, so these will
be used in lenny and future releases. --JoeyHess
- >8 -
in the comments of the very same page as well as check your
/var/lib/apt/lists/*_{Release,Packages} for verification.
Cheers,
Flo
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Re: How APT signs packages
On Fri, 19 Oct 2012, Florian Ernst wrote:
...
> ***apt has supported sha256 checksums since version 0.7.7, so these will
> be used in lenny and future releases. --JoeyHess
> - >8 -
>
> in the comments of the very same page as well as check your
> /var/lib/apt/lists/*_{Release,Packages} for verification.
Thanks. One comment claimed that from Lenny onwards SHA256 checksums
would be used. But in Squeeze, *_Release still has MD5 checksums, at
least for the repository I have. So it looks like the infrastructure
supports SHA but it's still needed to do the tedious work of migration.
Is there any archive of why the move was not made for Lenny or later?
Regards,
/Lars
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Re: How APT signs packages
On 2012-10-19 12:43 +0200, Lars Nooden wrote:
> On Fri, 19 Oct 2012, Florian Ernst wrote:
> ...
>> ***apt has supported sha256 checksums since version 0.7.7, so these will
>> be used in lenny and future releases. --JoeyHess
>> - >8 -
>>
>> in the comments of the very same page as well as check your
>> /var/lib/apt/lists/*_{Release,Packages} for verification.
>
> Thanks. One comment claimed that from Lenny onwards SHA256 checksums
> would be used. But in Squeeze, *_Release still has MD5 checksums, at
> least for the repository I have. So it looks like the infrastructure
> supports SHA but it's still needed to do the tedious work of migration.
The Release files contain MD5, SHA1 and SHA256 checksums, and apt uses
the strongest of those.
Cheers,
Sven
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NVIDIA OpenGL driver
I can't use any OpenGL program after I installed Nvidia driver on my laptop, the error message is : invalid opengl context. my graphic card is Geforce GT 630M, Cpu is core i5-2450M what should i do ??? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/508156c8.8090...@gmail.com
Re: GRUB location on Dual-Boot with TWO hard drives
On Fri, 2012-10-19 at 09:41 +0100, Lisi wrote: > > On Sunday 14 October 2012 21:43:59 Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > On Sun, 2012-10-14 at 21:36 +0100, Lisi wrote: > > > su > > > is enough. > > > > No, it should be > > > > su - > > lisi@Tux-II:~$ su > Password: > root@Tux-II:/home/lisi# whoami > root > root@Tux-II:/home/lisi# Very often I run GUIs (gedit etc.) after su, but sometimes su - is needed. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1350653571.1112.134.camel@localhost.localdomain
Re: DVD-RAM, Raspberry Pi and other toys - Was: can't create an UDF file system on a CD-RW
On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 11:37:19PM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > spend more time with Computers, then I really would lose any real world > social contacts, would feed myself with more junk foot. Has that got anything to do with "putting your foot in your mouth?" SCNR -- "If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing." --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20121019135543.GE7861@tal
Re: OT: Wheezy: Error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0
Hi, Try this: LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu ./reflash Rick > Hi, > > Am trying to reflash my cellphone from wheezy using "reflash" program and > am getting a weird "No such file or directory" error for > libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0. I had tried adding "/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu" to > the PATH but got the same error message. > > Any ideas? Thanks > > > > $ ./reflash > ./reflash: error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0: > cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory > > $ ls -l /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 27 Aug 6 12:30 > /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 -> > libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0.2400.10 > > $ ls -l /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0.2400.10 > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 4442248 Aug 6 12:30 > /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0.2400.10 > > # dpkg -S libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 > libgtk2.0-0:amd64: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 > libgtk2.0-0:amd64: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0.2400.10 > > # uname -a > Linux test 3.2.0-3-amd64 #1 SMP Mon Jul 23 02:45:17 UTC 2012 x86_64 > GNU/Linux > > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > listmas...@lists.debian.org > Archive: > http://lists.debian.org/1350611456.28129.yahoomail...@web121903.mail.ne1.yahoo.com > > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/29277d2a1a976ec88dbcf7c0c561908d.squir...@www.microway.com
aptitude vs apt-get (was ... Re: mount cdrom?)
On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 11:05:55AM -0700, Kelly Clowers wrote: > I recommend using aptitude for everything. It replaces apt-get and > apt-cache, ... root@tal:~# dpkg -S /usr/bin/apt-get apt: /usr/bin/apt-get root@tal:~# apt-cache policy aptitude aptitude: Installed: (none) Candidate: 0.6.8.1-2 Version table: 0.6.8.1-2 0 990 http://ftp.nz.debian.org/debian/ wheezy/main i386 Packages IOW, I can easily remove aptitude, I wouldn't like to try forcefully removing apt. > aptitude search chess Mmmm, :) > Aptitude is the officially recommended tool for command line package > management, replacing apt-get. Where does it say that? If you are talking about the release notes, then that seems to vary from release to release and generally refers to which tool does the best job of upgrading from one release to the next without too many problems. -- "If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing." --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20121019141612.GF7861@tal
Re: aptitude vs apt-get (was ... Re: mount cdrom?)
On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 7:16 AM, Chris Bannister wrote: > On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 11:05:55AM -0700, Kelly Clowers wrote: >> I recommend using aptitude for everything. It replaces apt-get and >> apt-cache, ... > > root@tal:~# dpkg -S /usr/bin/apt-get > apt: /usr/bin/apt-get > > root@tal:~# apt-cache policy aptitude > aptitude: > Installed: (none) > Candidate: 0.6.8.1-2 > Version table: > 0.6.8.1-2 0 > 990 http://ftp.nz.debian.org/debian/ wheezy/main i386 Packages > > IOW, I can easily remove aptitude, I wouldn't like to try forcefully > removing apt. > >> aptitude search chess > > Mmmm, :) > >> Aptitude is the officially recommended tool for command line package >> management, replacing apt-get. > > Where does it say that? If you are talking about the release notes, then > that seems to vary from release to release and generally refers to which > tool does the best job of upgrading from one release to the next without > too many problems. I swear I saw it on the Aptitude page on the Debian wiki, but I guess it was somewhere else, because I just looked and it is not. Oh well. I mean obviously people are free to use what they want, I just cannot understand why anyone would use apt-* when there is aptitude. And 90% of the time I use interactive mode, which doesn't exist *at all* in apt-*, and when I do use the CLI, one command for installing searching, etc. is more convent than several. Cheers, Kelly Clowers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAFoWM=_p9vgeudez02kstmym2ytwgoas9ld44a3btmgjprj...@mail.gmail.com
Re: NVIDIA OpenGL driver
On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 6:34 AM, Zhigang Song <10054114...@gmail.com> wrote: > I can't use any OpenGL program after I installed Nvidia driver on my laptop, > the error message is : invalid opengl context. > > my graphic card is Geforce GT 630M, Cpu is core i5-2450M > Do you mean you installed the Nvidia binary driver or do you mean the Nouveau Open Source driver? Please post the first five or so lines of output from running "glxinfo" on the command line. While we are at it, might as well post the output from "lsmod". Cheers, Kelly Clowers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAFoWM=_OgJJJOcyUochN_ESfH1OWWGcLYx=xhrroxmv7jn0...@mail.gmail.com
Re: aptitude vs apt-get (was ... Re: mount cdrom?)
On Friday 19 October 2012 16:05:46 Kelly Clowers wrote: > On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 7:16 AM, Chris Bannister > > wrote: > > On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 11:05:55AM -0700, Kelly Clowers wrote: > >> I recommend using aptitude for everything. It replaces apt-get and > >> apt-cache, ... > > > > root@tal:~# dpkg -S /usr/bin/apt-get > > apt: /usr/bin/apt-get > > > > root@tal:~# apt-cache policy aptitude > > aptitude: > > Installed: (none) > > Candidate: 0.6.8.1-2 > > Version table: > > 0.6.8.1-2 0 > > 990 http://ftp.nz.debian.org/debian/ wheezy/main i386 Packages > > > > IOW, I can easily remove aptitude, I wouldn't like to try forcefully > > removing apt. > > > >> aptitude search chess > > > > Mmmm, :) > > > >> Aptitude is the officially recommended tool for command line package > >> management, replacing apt-get. > > > > Where does it say that? If you are talking about the release notes, then > > that seems to vary from release to release and generally refers to which > > tool does the best job of upgrading from one release to the next without > > too many problems. > > I swear I saw it on the Aptitude page on the Debian wiki, but I guess > it was somewhere else, because I just looked and it is not. "I swear I _saw_ it" - past tense! Perhaps it was there but is not there now. Aptitude did have some definite advantages over apt- , but they are now much more level pegging. (And no, I do not want a flame war over "my apt is better than your apt" !) I still use aptitude most of the time, because I know it better. > Oh well. I mean obviously people are free to use what they want, I > just cannot understand why anyone would use apt-* when there is > aptitude. And 90% of the time I use interactive mode, which doesn't > exist *at all* in apt-*, and when I do use the CLI, one command for > installing searching, etc. is more convent than several. I agree! Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201210191616.44571.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: Number of Debian packages available.
On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 11:30:41AM +0100, Lisi wrote: > Hello, all! > I have searched Wikipedia and the Debian wiki. I have Googled. I am clearly > using the wrong search terms, although I tried rewording in sundry different > ways. > > Approximately, in round terms, how may packages are available in Debian > (Squeeze?) > 1. in main > 2. in main, contrib and non-free See Debian Reference on Debian site which should be displaying such number scanned last night :-) I just updated. http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch02.en.html#listofdebianarchivearea area number of packages main38064 contrib 231 non-free 508 This is for upcoming wheezy :) > I have an idea of roughly 20,000 in my head, but cannot remember why I think > it and it may be vastly out. Nor into which of my two categories the figure > falls, if by any miracle it is correct. Off by half Osamu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20121019151512.GA21775@goofy.localdomain
Re: aptitude vs apt-get (was ... Re: mount cdrom?)
On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 8:16 AM, Lisi wrote: > > > On Friday 19 October 2012 16:05:46 Kelly Clowers wrote: >> >> I swear I saw it on the Aptitude page on the Debian wiki, but I guess >> it was somewhere else, because I just looked and it is not. > > "I swear I _saw_ it" - past tense! Perhaps it was there but is not there now. > > Aptitude did have some definite advantages over apt- , but they are now much > more level pegging. (And no, I do not want a flame war over "my apt is > better than your apt" !) I still use aptitude most of the time, because > I know it better. > >> Oh well. I mean obviously people are free to use what they want, I >> just cannot understand why anyone would use apt-* when there is >> aptitude. And 90% of the time I use interactive mode, which doesn't >> exist *at all* in apt-*, and when I do use the CLI, one command for >> installing searching, etc. is more convent than several. > > I agree! I guess it would make less difference on stable, not much needs to be done there. But I use unstable+experimental, and use some outside repos like debian-multimedia and wine repos, and at times I have run a mixed Debian/Ubuntu system (I wanted newer GTK et al that was not in unstable or even experimental (during a freeze)). Trust me, that was hairy enough sorting out dependencies *with* aptitude interactive mode, you don't want to try with apt-get! Cheers, Kelly Clowers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAFoWM=__acrxkmmwr4hovzvl-lzs2eqpbqshviyvkp_nmvo...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Number of Debian packages available.
On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 02:36:43PM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Ma, 16 oct 12, 14:00:10, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > > $ aptitude search ~Astable | wc -l > > 43004 > > $ aptitude search ~Astable~scontrib | wc -l > > 271 > > $ aptitude search ~Astable~snon-free | wc -l > > 583 > > Oups, 'stable' will also match 'unstable', so the correct search (also > excluding non-Debian sources) is: > > $ aptitude search '~A^stable~ODebian' | wc -l > 28875 > $ aptitude search '~A^stable~ODebian~scontrib' | wc -l > 189 > $ aptitude search '~A^stable~ODebian~snon-free' | wc -l > 408 > > My numbers are still a bit bigger than the count from the Packages file, > but don't know why (it doesn't seem to be due to virtual packages). I think your number is about right for squeeze. Debian FAQ package number is not scripted. So needs to file bug report to package. Osamu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20121019152347.GB21775@goofy.localdomain
Re: Plus '+' character when building kernel [SOLVED]
Tom H gmail.com> writes: > > Prepend "LOCALVERSION=''" > > Thanks this worked great! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/loom.20121019t191219-...@post.gmane.org
Re: CUPS is not broadcasting printers
On Fri 19 Oct 2012 at 11:58:59 +0200, Karl wrote: > my new CUPS Server (1.4.4-7+sq) is not broadcasting any printer queues to > the LAN. The required avahi (dnssd) daemon is up and running. Avahi also > distributes printers that I have manually creates in the /etc/avahi/services > directory, but not the printers that have been configured in CUPS. > > I searched around and found an interesting discussion about a bug in CUPS > (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cups/+bug/465916) which points > into the direction of a new avahi api not used by cups. > > I wonder that this bug is still around and how all cups servers in the world > broadcast their printers with squeeze today. > > Any ideas? >From changelog.Debian: cups (1.4.5-2) unstable; urgency=low [ Till Kamppeter ] * debian/patches/cups-avahi.dpatch: Added patch from Tim Waugh from Red Hat to implement full Avahi support, not only for printer discovery by the "dnssd" backend but also for print queue broadcasting and browsing by the scheduler (CUPS daemon). Fixes LP: #465916. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20121019175321.GE26295@desktop
d-i manual in convient format
In particular I am looking for "Appendix B. Automating the installation using preseeding" as a single html file. As I'm on dial-up, a local copy would be very convenient. TIA -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/50819392.5030...@cloud85.net
Re: Plus '+' character when building kernel
Tom H wrote: On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 9:14 PM, Amit wrote: On a debian wheezy system, I am building upstream kernel using the following command: fakeroot make-kpkg --revision 3.6.0 --append-to-version -0-amd64 --initrd kernel_image kernel_headers The resulting package is: linux-image-3.6.0-0-amd64+_3.6.0_amd64.deb Notice the '+' character. How do I remove that? Prepend "LOCALVERSION=''" Interesting. What is the reason for this? Hugo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/k5s4ki$el0$1...@ger.gmane.org
Re: d-i manual in convient format
On Fri 19 Oct 2012 at 12:53:22 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > In particular I am looking for "Appendix B. Automating the > installation using preseeding" as a single html file. > As I'm on dial-up, a local copy would be very convenient. wget -r -np -nH http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/apb.html.en About 460 KB. Not one page. But does it really matter? The whote Guide in text is abot 400 KB. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20121019183246.GF26295@desktop
Re: Plus '+' character when building kernel
On 2012-10-19 20:02 +0200, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: > Tom H wrote: >> On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 9:14 PM, Amit wrote: >>> On a debian wheezy system, I am building upstream kernel using the >>> following command: >>> >>> fakeroot make-kpkg --revision 3.6.0 --append-to-version -0-amd64 --initrd >>> kernel_image kernel_headers >>> >>> The resulting package is: >>> >>> linux-image-3.6.0-0-amd64+_3.6.0_amd64.deb >>> >>> Notice the '+' character. How do I remove that? >> >> Prepend "LOCALVERSION=''" > > Interesting. What is the reason for this? To make it clear that the kernel has not been built from a release tag, but contains additional changes. For more detailed information, see commit 85a256d8e0116c8f5ad276730830f5d4d473344d. Cheers, Sven -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87wqymz383@turtle.gmx.de
Re: Plus '+' character when building kernel [SOLVED]
On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 1:13 PM, Amit wrote: > Tom H gmail.com> writes: >> >> Prepend "LOCALVERSION=''" > > Thanks this worked great! You're welcome. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAOdo=swgen54-szr+7utbuz4vonu6tbnzefekcfqgkbwsa-...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Wally Lepore
On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 05:37:03PM +0200, lee wrote: > Wally Lepore writes: > > > In fact, its very time consuming to have to structure emails in that > > fashion and its not something I look forward to. > > A decent MUA would make things a lot easier for you. Gnus is said to > work well with gmail. Huh? Last I looked, Gnus was a newsreader and requires emacs to be installed. Please don't confuse newcomers to Linux. -- "If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing." --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20121019222643.GG7861@tal
Re: Wally Lepore
Chris Bannister writes: > Last I looked, Gnus was a newsreader... You didn't look very closely. Gnus works quite well for both news and email and offers all the advantages of a newsreader such as groups, killfiles, scoring, and threading. It is intended to be used for both. > ...and requires emacs to be installed. So what? -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87ipa6oyng@thumper.dhh.gt.org
Re: Wally Lepore
On Friday, October 19, 2012 07:00:35 PM John Hasler wrote: > > ...and requires emacs to be installed. > > So what? I used emacs back when it was written in TECO and have used a few flavors since. I'd *never* advise a new user to use emacs. They have enough to learn; they don't need to double or triple the load, or steepen the learning curve.
Re: OT: man in the middle attack ?
On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 08:14:23PM +0100, Joe wrote: > And finally, there are a few people who are just plain prickly... but > one of the most important of all freedoms is the freedom to offend. > Once that is outlawed, censorship becomes trivial to implement. Bollocks. -- "If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing." --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20121019230109.GH7861@tal
Wheezy Driver for Intel RMS25CB080 RAID Controller
Anyone have any luck getting this family of new Intel RAID drivers working in Debian Wheezy? It uses the LSI raid controller: LSI Logic / Symbios Logic MegaRAID SAS 2208 [Thunderbolt] But the wheezy kernel's stock megaraid_sas driver does not seem to support this card. I've downloaded the drivers from Intel, but they were written for the 2.6 kernel version and for redhat and suse, not Debian or Ubuntu. So far I haven't gotten them to build in wheezy. Intel raid card page: http://www.intel.com/p/en_US/support/highlights/server/irm-rms25cb080 Thanks, Chris smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature
Re: Wally Lepore
> I used emacs back when it was written in TECO and have used a few > flavors since. So have I, but I also use the current version. Hint: it has _menus_. > I'd *never* advise a new user to use emacs. I would. -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87ehkuowwz@thumper.dhh.gt.org
Re: Wally Lepore
On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 06:00:35PM -0500, John Hasler wrote: > Chris Bannister writes: > > Last I looked, Gnus was a newsreader... > > You didn't look very closely. Gnus works quite well for both news and > email and offers all the advantages of a newsreader such as groups, > killfiles, scoring, and threading. It is intended to be used for both. Ahh. OK, Should I have said "Last I looked, Gnus was a newsreader but if you jump through a few hoops and get used to a different paradigm it can be used as an MUA. If you know, and enjoy LISP then configuring it will be an enjoyable experience."? > > ...and requires emacs to be installed. > > So what? A newcomer to Linux who is advised to use Gnus, should at least be warned that they will be installing emacs. I will add that, if anyone does take the emacs+gnus route they will have a powerful and versatile system which a lot of developers/users swear by. On the other hand, a lot of developers/users swear by the vim+mutt route. -- "If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing." --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20121020002725.GC11895@tal
Re: Wally Lepore
On Friday, October 19, 2012 08:27:25 PM Chris Bannister wrote: > ... > > I will add that, if anyone does take the emacs+gnus route they will have > a powerful and versatile system which a lot of developers/users swear by. > > On the other hand, a lot of developers/users swear by the vim+mutt route. Alas, not everyone who uses a computer is a developer.
Re: Wally Lepore
> OK, Should I have said "Last I looked, Gnus was a newsreader but if > you jump through a few hoops and get used to a different paradigm it > can be used as an MUA. No more need to jump through hoops than with any other MUA. > If you know, and enjoy LISP then configuring it will be an enjoyable > experience."? No need for any elisp. All configuration can be done via menus. > A newcomer to Linux who is advised to use Gnus, should at least be > warned that they will be installing emacs. Installing Thunderbird pulls in libraries that are larger than Emacs. > On the other hand, a lot of developers/users swear by the vim+mutt > route. I use Emacs and Gnus, my wife uses Vi and Mutt. We're still married. -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/876265q1si@thumper.dhh.gt.org
Re: Wally Lepore
Chris Bannister writes: > Huh? Last I looked, Gnus was a newsreader and requires emacs to be > installed. Look closer, it is a very powerful MUA as well. > Please don't confuse newcomers to Linux. I suggested that he learn to use emacs in some other posts. -- Debian testing iad96 brokenarch -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/877gqletx3@yun.yagibdah.de
Re: Wally Lepore
Neal Murphy writes: > On Friday, October 19, 2012 08:27:25 PM Chris Bannister wrote: >> ... >> > I will add that, if anyone does take the emacs+gnus route they will have >> a powerful and versatile system which a lot of developers/users swear by. >> >> On the other hand, a lot of developers/users swear by the vim+mutt route. > > Alas, not everyone who uses a computer is a developer. Wally wants to learn some C programming, thus I suggested he learn emacs and might use gnus and try out vim and/or joe, whatever he likes best. Perhaps I should have mentioned mutt as well, but mutt with imap can be rather awkward. -- Debian testing iad96 brokenarch -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87wqyld9qa@yun.yagibdah.de
