ATI Graphics Radeon HD 5470

2012-10-18 Thread Sean Gregory
Hi

I am having an HP Laptop DV3 - 4170ee

It has a ATI Graphics card Radeon HD 5470 .

I am having trouble with the open source driver that comes with debian
sqeeze. It doesnt detect it fine.


By the way I tried the open source driver with Ubuntu 12.04.1 and Linux
Mint maya and it detects and activates it just fine..

Any suggestion with debian...

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Re: ATI Graphics Radeon HD 5470

2012-10-18 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Jo, 18 oct 12, 10:21:08, Sean Gregory wrote:
> Hi
> 
> I am having an HP Laptop DV3 - 4170ee
> 
> It has a ATI Graphics card Radeon HD 5470 .
> 
> I am having trouble with the open source driver that comes with debian
> sqeeze. It doesnt detect it fine.
> 
> By the way I tried the open source driver with Ubuntu 12.04.1 and Linux
> Mint maya and it detects and activates it just fine..
> 
> Any suggestion with debian...

Upgrade to wheezy. Even if it is still in testing it is now frozen, 
which makes it quite stable. An other alternative would be new kernel + 
Xorg from backports.

Kind regards,
Andrei
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start-stop-daemon qemu-nbd

2012-10-18 Thread shawn wilson
start-stop-daemon works as root, but not when sudo with qemu-nbd

my definition of works vs doesn't - i can connect to both (assuming a qcow2 vm):
start-stop-daemon --start -b --exec /usr/bin/qemu-nbd -- nocache template.qcow2
nbd-client localhost 1024 /dev/nbd0
fdisk -l /dev/nbd0 #WORKS

sudo start-stop-daemon --start -b --exec /usr/bin/qemu-nbd -- nocache
template.qcow2
# do the rest as root to be consistent but it doesn't matter
nbd-client localhost 1024 / dev/nbd0
fdisk -l /dev/nbd0 #FAILS


in order to get the image:
qemu-img create -f qcow2 template.qcow2 10G

in order to delete the nbd:
nbd-client -d /dev/nbd0

everything looks the same to me under ps and lsof. i haven't gotten
into memory usage and libraries, but that's probably the same too. i
suspect there's a variable or lack thereof that start-stop-daemon sees
when inside of sudo. also below is the script i've written out
(actually its an extract from a larger script). the script doesn't
delete the device just so i could see the place where it's left off
(it also tries the mkfs because that error message stands out more to
me than sfdisk's)


#!/bin/bash

QCOW=./template.qcow2
SIZE=10G
FSTYPE=ext4

# mount point has to conform to schroot.conf
ROOTDIR=/mnt/chroot

echo "File: $QCOW"
echo "Size: $SIZE"
echo "FS type: $FSTYPE"
echo "Mount point: $ROOTDIR"


echo "Creating qcow2 image"
qemu-img create -f qcow2 $QCOW $SIZE

echo "Loading NBD kernel module"
if ! echo "modprobe nbd > /dev/null 2>&1" | sudo sh; then
echo "Failed to load NBD module. Exiting.";
exit 1;
fi

NBDDEV=/dev/nbd0

echo "Starting NBD daemon"
echo "start-stop-daemon --start -b --chuid root --exec /usr/bin/qemu-nbd -- --no
cache $QCOW" | sudo sh

echo "Starting NBD client"
sudo nbd-client localhost 1024 $NBDDEV

echo "Partitioning and formatting device."
echo "echo \\",,L,*\\" | sfdisk -D $NBDDEV" | sudo sh
sudo mkfs -t ext4 $NBDDEV


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Re: DVD-RAM, Raspberry Pi and other toys - Was: can't create an UDF file system on a CD-RW

2012-10-18 Thread Dom

On 17/10/12 22:37, Ralf Mardorf wrote:

Apologize Pierre, it wasn't intended to capture your thread.

On Wed, 2012-10-17 at 13:56 -0700, Kelly Clowers wrote:


Raspberry Pi is cool (not my cup of tea, but cool nonetheless). It
looks like it is selling for 35 USD, which is what I always heard
quoted.


I suspect I'm too old and sluggish, when I was young I played with
hardware and programmed Assembler and unbelievable, even C. Today I
don't have those abilities anymore. Yes, it's cool, but I suspect I
wouldn't use it, I would be to lazy to learn, or I would learn and then
spend more time with Computers, then I really would lose any real world
social contacts, would feed myself with more junk foot. At some point
it's better to stop ;).


You're never too old :-)

I bought a Raspberry Pi soon after they first came out, and it is great 
fun to work on. My C skills are weak, but I've managed to create a few 
small apps for it. Also, I used to dabble in ARM assembler back when I 
had a BBC Micro, and a little later. I do like the fact that it is 
possible to write small native apps to run on the "bare metal" system 
without any OS required.


As for the price being different to the original quotes - the $25 price 
is for the "model A" which isn't available yet (due around Christmas, I 
believe). The "model B" currently selling has 2 USB ports, compared to 
the one port on the A, and the A doesn't have ethernet. Also, current 
model Bs now have 512MB of RAM, instead of the original 256MB (I suspect 
the model A will have 256MB).


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Re: 32bit binaries on 64bit system?

2012-10-18 Thread Jon Dowland
What libraries does your binary require? try using ldd to find out.
You may have missed a particular 32 bit library dependency. If you
are prepared to upgrade to wheezy, multiarch might make this a bit
easier.


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Re: Newbie password problem(s)

2012-10-18 Thread Brian
On Wed 17 Oct 2012 at 21:05:00 +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote:

> On Mi, 17 oct 12, 12:22:48, Richard Owlett wrote:
> > 
> > When rebooting into "Rescue Mode", the last two lines displayed are:
> > sulogin: root account is locked, starting shell
> > root@localhost:~#
> > 
> > At this point I'm allowed to do "apt-get install xyz" - no password
> > required.
> > 
> > Comments, questions, suggestions?
> 
> I don't know for sure (never used this option), but this sounds like you 
> left the root password blank during install.

Given the message from sulogin, this is highly likely. In fact, a
certainty. You are given a root shell so it is not surprising apt-get
works.

>  In such cases the root 
> account is locked and the user create during install is given sudo 
> powers.

The sudo package is installed and the user added to group sudo. If
"apt-get install gdm3" installed gd3 this is either a misobservetion
or the discovery of a massive security problem.


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Re: DVD-RAM, Raspberry Pi and other toys - Was: can't create an UDF file system on a CD-RW

2012-10-18 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2012-10-18 at 09:31 +0100, Dom wrote:
> On 17/10/12 22:37, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> > Apologize Pierre, it wasn't intended to capture your thread.
> >
> > On Wed, 2012-10-17 at 13:56 -0700, Kelly Clowers wrote:
> >>
> >> Raspberry Pi is cool (not my cup of tea, but cool nonetheless). It
> >> looks like it is selling for 35 USD, which is what I always heard
> >> quoted.
> >
> > I suspect I'm too old and sluggish, when I was young I played with
> > hardware and programmed Assembler and unbelievable, even C. Today I
> > don't have those abilities anymore. Yes, it's cool, but I suspect I
> > wouldn't use it, I would be to lazy to learn, or I would learn and then
> > spend more time with Computers, then I really would lose any real world
> > social contacts, would feed myself with more junk foot. At some point
> > it's better to stop ;).
> 
> You're never too old :-)
> 
> I bought a Raspberry Pi soon after they first came out, and it is great 
> fun to work on. My C skills are weak, but I've managed to create a few 
> small apps for it. Also, I used to dabble in ARM assembler back when I 
> had a BBC Micro, and a little later. I do like the fact that it is 
> possible to write small native apps to run on the "bare metal" system 
> without any OS required.
> 
> As for the price being different to the original quotes - the $25 price 
> is for the "model A" which isn't available yet (due around Christmas, I 
> believe). The "model B" currently selling has 2 USB ports, compared to 
> the one port on the A, and the A doesn't have ethernet. Also, current 
> model Bs now have 512MB of RAM, instead of the original 256MB (I suspect 
> the model A will have 256MB).

:)

So you encourage me to drop social contacts and to eat more junk
food ;)?

:D
Ralf


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Debian Wheezy Architecture

2012-10-18 Thread Stephen P. Molnar
Debian 6.0.5 (64 bit)/KDE 4.4.5

I have just migrated to Debian and would like to implement Multiarch.
According to the Debian Wiki it is present in dkpg since 1.16.2.
However, the version in my installation is 1.15.8.3.

When I try to update the Synaptic Package Manager I get some error
messages that don't mean anything to me at this stage in my
understanding (?).

Here are the error messages:

Ignoring file 'opera.list.save' in directory '/etc/apt/sources.list.d/'
as it has an invalid filename extension

Ignoring file 'opera.list.save' in directory '/etc/apt/sources.list.d/'
as it has an invalid filename extension

GPG error: http://cran.case.edu squeeze-cran/ Release: The following
signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not
available: NO_PUBKEY 06F90DE5381BA480GPG 

error: http://www.deb.us.multimedia.org squeeze Release: The following
signatures were invalid: NODATA 1 NODATA 2

Failed to fetch
http://www.deb.us.multimedia.org/dists/squeeze/main/binary-amd64/Packages.bz2
Sub-process /bin/bzip2 returned an error code (2)

Failed to fetch
http://www.deb.us.multimedia.org/dists/squeeze/non-free/binary-amd64/Packages.bz2
Sub-process /bin/bzip2 returned an error code (2)

Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old
ones used instead.

The /etc/apt/sources.lst is:

# 

# deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 6.0.5 _Squeeze_ - Official amd64 DVD
Binary-1 20120512-14:34]/ squeeze contrib main

# deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 6.0.5 _Squeeze_ - Official amd64 DVD
Binary-1 20120512-14:34]/ squeeze contrib main

deb http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main contrib
deb-src http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main contrib
non-free

# squeeze-updates, previously known as 'volatile'
# A network mirror was not selected during install.  The following
entries # are provided as examples, but you should amend them as
appropriate # for your mirror of choice.
#
deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ squeeze-updates main contrib
deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian/ squeeze contrib non-free main
deb-src http://http.us.debian.org/debian/ squeeze contrib non-free main
deb-src http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ squeeze-updates main contrib
deb-src http://cran.case.edu/bin/linux/debian squeeze-cran/
deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian squeeze main
deb http://www.deb.us.multimedia.org squeeze main non-free
sources.list (END) 

What I really need is a pointer towards a really basic discussion of
Synaptic an apt.

Thanks in advance.
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Re: Debian Wheezy Architecture

2012-10-18 Thread Darac Marjal
On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 09:46:19AM -0400, Stephen P. Molnar wrote:
> Debian 6.0.5 (64 bit)/KDE 4.4.5
> 
> I have just migrated to Debian and would like to implement Multiarch.
> According to the Debian Wiki it is present in dkpg since 1.16.2.
> However, the version in my installation is 1.15.8.3.

That is correct. You are using Debian Stable 6.0.5 (aka "Squeeze"). Debian 7.0 
(aka "Wheezy") is still in testing, but IS due to migrate to stable in a few 
months.

You can either update to Wheezy now or wait until it becomes stable,
depending on your preferences.

> 
> When I try to update the Synaptic Package Manager I get some error
> messages that don't mean anything to me at this stage in my
> understanding (?).
> 
> Here are the error messages:
> 
> Ignoring file 'opera.list.save' in directory '/etc/apt/sources.list.d/'
> as it has an invalid filename extension
> 
> Ignoring file 'opera.list.save' in directory '/etc/apt/sources.list.d/'
> as it has an invalid filename extension

Not a problem. I believe there's some software (it might be synaptic,
I'm not sure) which makes back-ups of your apt-sources. You can safely
ignore this message.

> 
> GPG error: http://cran.case.edu squeeze-cran/ Release: The following
> signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not
> available: NO_PUBKEY 06F90DE5381BA480GPG 

You should be wary of downloading packages from this repository as you
have no guarantee that they are the files released by its maintainers
(That is, you might download them correctly, but if a suspicious
package was uploaded to the server, you can't tell).

> 
> error: http://www.deb.us.multimedia.org squeeze Release: The following
> signatures were invalid: NODATA 1 NODATA 2
> 
> Failed to fetch
> http://www.deb.us.multimedia.org/dists/squeeze/main/binary-amd64/Packages.bz2
> Sub-process /bin/bzip2 returned an error code (2)
> 
> Failed to fetch
> http://www.deb.us.multimedia.org/dists/squeeze/non-free/binary-amd64/Packages.bz2
> Sub-process /bin/bzip2 returned an error code (2)

These look like an error in your apt-sources. According to "whois",
multimedia.org is hosted by a domain-parking name server. Probably you
meant deb-multimedia.org? But there isn't[1] a US mirror for them, so
I'm not sure.

> 
> Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old
> ones used instead.
> 
> The /etc/apt/sources.lst is:
> 
> # 
> 
> # deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 6.0.5 _Squeeze_ - Official amd64 DVD
> Binary-1 20120512-14:34]/ squeeze contrib main
> 
> # deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 6.0.5 _Squeeze_ - Official amd64 DVD
> Binary-1 20120512-14:34]/ squeeze contrib main
> 
> deb http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main contrib
> deb-src http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main contrib
> non-free
> 
> # squeeze-updates, previously known as 'volatile'
> # A network mirror was not selected during install.  The following
> entries # are provided as examples, but you should amend them as
> appropriate # for your mirror of choice.
> #
> deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ squeeze-updates main contrib
> deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian/ squeeze contrib non-free main
> deb-src http://http.us.debian.org/debian/ squeeze contrib non-free main
> deb-src http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ squeeze-updates main contrib
> deb-src http://cran.case.edu/bin/linux/debian squeeze-cran/
> deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian squeeze main
> deb http://www.deb.us.multimedia.org squeeze main non-free
> sources.list (END) 
> 
> What I really need is a pointer towards a really basic discussion of
> Synaptic an apt.

While this[1] is marked as "obsolete", it's still a good starting place.

[1] http://deb-multimedia.org/debian-m
[2] http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/



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Re: Listen to audio..........

2012-10-18 Thread Kelly Clowers
On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 2:19 PM, Charlie  wrote:
>
> Naturally I would have checked that the CD/DVD player was working, and
> in that case it doesn't matter if it can play CD's or DVD's I don't
> think?
>
> If I had been able to mount it, I would have known the extension the
> tracks/files have. [Thanks Kelly for that info Kelly]
>
> Doesn't matter, a program in windows XP called "Arcade" can read and
> play them so I'm right. I would just have liked to listen to them while
> booted into Linux, because my windows partition is only there for
> emergencies such as this.
>
> Thanks for your help. As always much appreciated.

Besides VLC:
mplayer -cdrom-device /dev/cdrom cdda://
Totem -> Movie -> Play Disc
cdplay -d /dev/cdrom (When the cdtools package installed. This is one
of the most low-level ways to play a cd)


CD rippers:
Sound Juicier
k3b
audex
abcde
cdparanoia

Also, it you mount the cd (which Linux can do, even with an audio cd),
use "file" on one of the files
# file /media/cdrom/

If that kind of stuff isn't working all I could think is that it has
some kind of weird DRM on it (which normal Audio CDs do not support).
Do you know if it plays in a cd player (not a computer)? And where is
this Windows program "Arcade" from? I cannot find it anywhere...


Cheers,
Kelly Clowers


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Re: Debian Wheezy Architecture

2012-10-18 Thread David Seira
Hi Stephen,

I had the same problem a few month ago. Finally, after look for a lot
of webs, the problem was in our firewall (fortinet). I think you
should look the internet connectivity in your firewall for this
machine. Are you change the server on another place?

Regards,
David

2012/10/18 Stephen P. Molnar 
>
> Debian 6.0.5 (64 bit)/KDE 4.4.5
>
> I have just migrated to Debian and would like to implement Multiarch.
> According to the Debian Wiki it is present in dkpg since 1.16.2.
> However, the version in my installation is 1.15.8.3.
>
> When I try to update the Synaptic Package Manager I get some error
> messages that don't mean anything to me at this stage in my
> understanding (?).
>
> Here are the error messages:
>
> Ignoring file 'opera.list.save' in directory '/etc/apt/sources.list.d/'
> as it has an invalid filename extension
>
> Ignoring file 'opera.list.save' in directory '/etc/apt/sources.list.d/'
> as it has an invalid filename extension
>
> GPG error: http://cran.case.edu squeeze-cran/ Release: The following
> signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not
> available: NO_PUBKEY 06F90DE5381BA480GPG
>
> error: http://www.deb.us.multimedia.org squeeze Release: The following
> signatures were invalid: NODATA 1 NODATA 2
>
> Failed to fetch
> http://www.deb.us.multimedia.org/dists/squeeze/main/binary-amd64/Packages.bz2
> Sub-process /bin/bzip2 returned an error code (2)
>
> Failed to fetch
> http://www.deb.us.multimedia.org/dists/squeeze/non-free/binary-amd64/Packages.bz2
> Sub-process /bin/bzip2 returned an error code (2)
>
> Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old
> ones used instead.
>
> The /etc/apt/sources.lst is:
>
> #
>
> # deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 6.0.5 _Squeeze_ - Official amd64 DVD
> Binary-1 20120512-14:34]/ squeeze contrib main
>
> # deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 6.0.5 _Squeeze_ - Official amd64 DVD
> Binary-1 20120512-14:34]/ squeeze contrib main
>
> deb http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main contrib
> deb-src http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main contrib
> non-free
>
> # squeeze-updates, previously known as 'volatile'
> # A network mirror was not selected during install.  The following
> entries # are provided as examples, but you should amend them as
> appropriate # for your mirror of choice.
> #
> deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ squeeze-updates main contrib
> deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian/ squeeze contrib non-free main
> deb-src http://http.us.debian.org/debian/ squeeze contrib non-free main
> deb-src http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ squeeze-updates main contrib
> deb-src http://cran.case.edu/bin/linux/debian squeeze-cran/
> deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian squeeze main
> deb http://www.deb.us.multimedia.org squeeze main non-free
> sources.list (END)
>
> What I really need is a pointer towards a really basic discussion of
> Synaptic an apt.
>
> Thanks in advance.
> --
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> Foundation for Chemistry  Stochastic and multivariate
> www.FoundationForChemistry.com
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Re: can't create an UDF file system on a CD-RW

2012-10-18 Thread Pierre Frenkiel

On Wed, 17 Oct 2012, Ralf Mardorf wrote:


I experienced two "things" as problematic with Linux.
CD-RAM and independent from the CD-RAM issue, UDF too.

I can't help, but I'll watch this thread ;).


  Up to now, this thread became redirected to DVD-RAM and Raspberry, but
  fortunately, I found the solution for udftools : follow the instructions in

   /usr/share/doc/udftools/README.Debian.gz

  Everything worked like charm for me, with a DVD-RW and a CR-RW
  Strange that the man documentation is so poor. They should at least
  give a link to the README.

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Re: GRUB location on Dual-Boot with TWO hard drives

2012-10-18 Thread lee
Lisi  writes:

> On Monday 15 October 2012 20:11:06 Wally Lepore wrote:
>> On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 5:57 AM, Dom  wrote:
>> > You might need to install the os-prober package first. Grub2 uses that to
>> > identify other OSes on your system.
>>
>> I haven't installed any pkgs. yet. But will consider that if all else
>> fails.
>
> No, Wally.  Not "if all else fails".  As I understand it, you actually need 
> this package to do what you want to do.


> I know that Lee thinks that I ought to be ashamed of myself for saying it, 
> but 
> I really do think that you need to grip the bull by the horns, and just do 
> it.

No, I wouldn't say that in this case, Lisi.  There's a big difference
between installing a package (because it's probably needed or because
you want to try it out) and having to re-install (because mistakes were
made that could have been easily avoided) :)


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Re: GRUB location on Dual-Boot with TWO hard drives

2012-10-18 Thread lee
Wally Lepore  writes:

> I know I can go to the menu in terminal under.Terminal-->Reset and
> Clear and it will just give me a terminal window with a blinking
> cursor.

Yeah remember msods; IIRC there was the "clear" command to clear the
screen (or was that "cls"?).  You can also type that in the
terminal. Reset is something you sometimes need when unprintable
characters or something like that was displayed and has messed up the
display of the terminal.  You can also type that as well.  MOTT it works
and resets the terminal so things can be displayed correctly again.

> But the fact is I'm not logged in as 'root'.

You don't need to be logged in as root.  You're not supposed to be
logged in as root.

> I read doing so can compromise your system.

Yes, that's because root can do anything, and so-called desktop
environments (like gnome and KDE) tend to run all kinds of stuff (much
of which we don't need or want) that may do all kinds of stuff we don't
know about (in the background) which makes it easier for everything to
go wrong, and when you're root, nothing protects you because root can do
anything.  So everything goes wrong eventually when you log into the GUI
as root, and you don't want that to happen.

> Also read that after the initial install of
> Debian, the user can't log into root. The user has to configure the
> system to log-into root.
>
> What next please?

I guess you need to be root to configure the system to log into the GUI
as root.  You shouldn't do that.

> Okay but I need to log-into root.

That's what "su - root" does for you.  It lets you become root just as
if you had logged in as root, but only in the terminal session in which
you have become root and not anywhere else.

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Re: GRUB location on Dual-Boot with TWO hard drives

2012-10-18 Thread lee
Wally Lepore  writes:

> For example, when I read helpful suggestions such as:
>
> Type this
>
> 1 | su root
> 2 | gedit
>
> I don't understand. What is the 1 and the 2 for? Do I have to type
> that in as well?

No, don't type the numbers, you'll probably be told "command not found"
:)

It's very much like MSDOS.  Only the commands are different ones, like
you have "ls" instead of "dir".

You need to learn about the "man" command. Just enter


man su


in a terminal and enjoy the read.  That works for most of the commands
(try "man ls" and be surprised).

> And I still haven't discovered if I have to clear out
> the cryptic message that appears in terminal when I open it before
> typing anything. please.

What does the message say?


As to logging in as root: The problem is that when you boot Linux, the
GUI starts up as well (which is bad) and prevents you from logging in as
root (which is good).  That is because you installed more than a minimal
system.  The GUI is optional, and I wouldn't rely on it because it
doesn't always work and is not always available.

Now you need to know about consoles.  If your keyboard configuration
works correctly, you can switch from the GUI to a console by pressing
Ctrl+Alt+F1.  That gives you a black screen with a "login:" prompt.  You
can log in as root or as a "normal" user there.  First enter the user
name (or "root") and then the password.

There are several consoles, by default from F1 to F6.  You can use any
or all of them and switch between them as much as you want by pressing
Alt+Fn.  You can log in as a different or the same user on each of them.

You can switch back to the GUI by pressing Alt+F7 and from the GUI to a
console again with Ctrl+Alt+Fn.

Now switch to a console and log in as root.  Then enter:


aptitude install emacs


That will install emacs (unless it's not already installed), which is an
editor.  Once emacs has been installed, log out as root and log in as
"normal" user on the console.  Then enter


emacs


and learn how to use emacs in a basic way so you can load, edit and save
files.  Continue to use emacs and keep learning about it.  You can use
it for programming and for creating web pages, too, and for lots of
other things, like your email.  Emacs works with the GUI as well.  It's
the only editor you need.  If you don't like it or don't get along with
it, you can try vi or vim (which I don't get along with).  If that
doesn't work for you, either, try joe.

Keep in mind that when you are logged in as root, you can do anything
you want, and it's easy to mess up your system.


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Re: Wally Lepore

2012-10-18 Thread lee
Jon Dowland  writes:

> failings. The mails you are receiving will have a proper List-Id
> header.

They are CCs and, of course, don't have a List-Id header.  Even if they
had one:  If your filtering puts mails addressed to you through a
CC header somewhere else just because it contains a List-Id header, then
your filtering is misconfigured.


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Re: GRUB location on Dual-Boot with TWO hard drives

2012-10-18 Thread lee
Wally Lepore  writes:

> On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 9:12 AM, lee  wrote:
>>
>> Do you really need LVM?
>
> I have partitioned drives n the past (using windows). Not a big deal.
> Easy enough for sure. LVM intrigued me and I wanted to learn. The
> logical volumes can be size adjusted (if need be) all while the
> computer is live! That's a good thing to have. That's all. :-).

Not all file systems can be changed in size while they are mounted, and
besides learning, you probably have to have rather special requirements
to actually need LVM.  Other than that, it adds a layer of complexity
which better is avoided.  I only have it because the installer forced me
to use it when installing on software raid.  I wonder what the impact on
performance is ...

>> How did you set up LVM, and what does fdisk -l say?
>
>
> What is fdisk -1 ??  I'm new to all this Linux jargon. But learning fast!

See man fdisk :)

>>> In my case, if I tell the Debian installer to place the GRUB
>>> boot-loader into   (hdd1,1)  or  /dev/sdb, will it place the GRUB
>>> boot-loader in the  '/' (root partition) due to the fact that its
>>> listed FIRST in the 'Review Partition Layout' screen?
>>
>> Did you install grub in a partition or into the MBR?  If you installed
>> it in a partition, how can you boot from that?  The BIOS isn't aware of
>> partitions, or is it?
>
> I don't believe the BIOS has anything to do with partitions. GRUB has
> everything to do with partitions. I was told GRUB will find the /boot
> file or partition wherever its located on a targeted drive.
>
> I installed GRUB into /dev/sdb (into my partition called /boot located
> on the 2nd drive).

/dev/sdb refers to a block device and not to a partition.  I remember
the installer giving you a choice between installing grub in the MBR (of
a block device) or in a partition.  I never tried the latter, and AFAIK
the BIOS will look into the first sector on a block device (like
/dev/sdb) to find some executable code it can load and execute.  So I
wonder how it should be possible to boot when grub isn't installed in
the MBR but in a partition.

> The OS booted fine as long as I switched the boot
> order in BIOS to boot the 2nd drive.

Which maybe isn't so great when you switch it all the time ...  Long
ago, I've been reading some article claiming that you can change BIOS
settings only so often before it's RAM wears out.  What happens with
SSDs reminds me of that.


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Re: Wally Lepore

2012-10-18 Thread lee
Wally Lepore  writes:

> In fact, its very time consuming to have to structure emails in that
> fashion and its not something I look forward to.

A decent MUA would make things a lot easier for you.  Gnus is said to
work well with gmail.

> I read all your posts in this thread and to be honest I became lost in
> all the back and forth details in regards to email-filters, archives,
> CC, Bcc etc. My gosh, is there an Acc? :)

See http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc0822.txt --- there's a bit more to it
than that, though.

> Perhaps it would also be helpful if the debian user-list allowed
> editing and deleting of email posts by their respective authors. If
> that were available, perhaps I would consider cleaning up most of my
> apparent 'redundant' posts.

That would involve modifying the mails stored on recipients computers,
in backups, mailing list archives and where ever else.  I don't like the
idea of someone else modifying data I have stored somewhere ...

> Please consider emailing the debian-user admin and request removal of
> this thread that contains my name on the subject line.

Why would anyone do that?


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Re: Wally Lepore - last words.

2012-10-18 Thread lee
Wally Lepore  writes:

> feeling. I only replied to two email addresses: Lisi and the user-list
> (reply-all).

That is exactly what Lisi doesn't want you to do.  She wants you to
reply to the list only and *not* to her address.


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Re: Wally Lepore

2012-10-18 Thread lee
Lisi  writes:

> It is getting beyond a joke.  I can certainly say that I emphatically do not 
> want a _personal_ copy in addition to the mailing list one.  This is a 
> problem that I have never met before, hope never to meet again, and it is 
> ridiculous.

It happens from time to time on various lists since there's no general
agreement about what to do.  I made a folder I move such messages into,
and that solves the problem for me.  I don't understand how a few mails
can cause so much inconvenience for you.


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Re: Evolution: A warning about mbox data corruptions

2012-10-18 Thread lee
Christoph Anton Mitterer  writes:

> This is intended as a warning on all users of the Evolution MUA that it
> contains a bug since years that leads to irrecoverably corruptions on
> any "From_" lines in mails.

Using mbox to store mails seems prone to corruption by design, not to
mention other disadvantages.  It circumvented the problem of
significantly decreased performance for instances when there were many
files in the same directory file systems which are now pretty obsolete
had.

Since quite some time, you can use maildir or nnml instead.


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Re: Wally Lepore

2012-10-18 Thread lee
Lisi  writes:

> considerable lengths to try and get him there.  I have even been told that I 
> should be ashamed of myself for telling him to just grab the bull by the 
> horns and do it.

That is a misunderstanding.  What I've been trying to say is that
there's someone who's trying to actually do what we apparently always
want people to do, i. e. read the documentation and really try to learn
things and then ask good questions.  In this case, the purpose of that
seemed to be to get things done the right way, avoiding mistakes that
can create difficulties and having to install again --- which can be
more complicated than starting with a blank disk because you'll want to
keep your data.

That's something I found delightful, and I can understand when someone
wants to know in advance what's supposed to happen when they do this or
that.

And our reaction to that is like "yuck, you're asking too many questions
and we're getting tired of that so just try it out and make mistakes and
end up installing again like we all did".  There's something wrong with
that, imho.

It's just like:
  "What happens to the data on my /home partition when I
   run mkfs on it?"
  "Just try it and see what happens and if you don't like the result,
   just install again.  What do you have to lose?"

If I was Wally, I would disconnect the other disk before installing
because otherwise, something could go wrong or I could make a mistake
and lose what's on that disk.


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Re: Install Debian on a UEFI-motherboard ?

2012-10-18 Thread Steve McIntyre
Tom Rausner wrote:
>Hi Folks.
>I have a tower PC with a serious motherboard problem.
>It is unable to pass data from one place (say the harddisk)
>to another (say a CDROM), without drowning it in errors.
>I think some pathways in the motherboard is broken, so I want to
>replace it. BUT most of the motherboards on the market doesn't
>have an old-style BIOS, they've got the UEFI-thing. So the question
>is; can I replace my motherboard with one infested with the UEFI-thing
>and get a Debian install to work on it ?

Hi Tom,

I know we're a few weeks on from when you asked, but...

As of today, we now have official debian-installer test CDs that
should work for installing on UEFI systems. See 

  http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2012/10/msg7.html

for more details about the release.

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Re: Newbie password problem(s)

2012-10-18 Thread Richard Owlett

Brian wrote:

On Wed 17 Oct 2012 at 21:05:00 +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote:


On Mi, 17 oct 12, 12:22:48, Richard Owlett wrote:


When rebooting into "Rescue Mode", the last two lines displayed are:
sulogin: root account is locked, starting shell
root@localhost:~#

At this point I'm allowed to do "apt-get install xyz" - no password
required.

Comments, questions, suggestions?


I don't know for sure (never used this option), but this sounds like you
left the root password blank during install.


Given the message from sulogin, this is highly likely. In fact, a
certainty. You are given a root shell so it is not surprising apt-get
works.


  In such cases the root
account is locked and the user create during install is given sudo
powers.


The sudo package is installed and the user added to group sudo. If
"apt-get install gdm3" installed gd3 this is either a misobservetion
or the discovery of a massive security problem.



If you are referring to what I reported about lines 
displayed when booting in rescue mode, they were copied 
accurately. As I had no means to cut-n-paste between my test 
machine and my e-mail machine I was copying it character by 
character in my one finger hunt-n-peck typing mode.


Based on Andrei's comments , I did a clean install 
(including starting from power off condition). I apparently 
don't have password problems now. I've found another glitch 
which is apparently repeatable. I've a couple more test I 
want to run. I'll add one more variation to those an install 
intentionally omitting a root password.




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Re: Debian Etch(Kernel 2.6.24) Can't insatll on Ivy bridge platform

2012-10-18 Thread Stan Hoeppner
On 10/17/2012 8:18 AM, richie.jf@foxconn.com wrote:

First off, I own a couple of your socket AM3 M61PMP-K motherboards.  The
CPU temp doesn't report correctly, which is not critical.  Besides that
they work great and I'm pleased with them.

> When we install Debian Etch(Kernel 2.6.24) on Intel Ivy Bridge platform, it
> pop out warning message: "no mount CD-ROM can be found". If we install this
> OS with Sandy Bridge platform, it works fine. but now, we need update to
> Ivy Bridge platform. we are facing this problem now. Any suggestions? Or
> anybody knows if kernel 2.6.24 support Intel Ivy Bridge platform? Thanks in
> advance and any suggestions will be highly appreciated!

Etch was EOL many years ago.  Lenny came next and it is EOL also.
Squeeze is current, and Wheezy will be released within 6 months or so.
Try the Squeeze and Wheezy installers.

2.6.24 is way too old for Ivy Bridge.  A little Googling will tell you
that various fixes for Ivy Bridge were still being submitted in Linux
3.5, around June/July 2012 IIRC.

Apparently there are significant differences between Sandy and Ivy
Bridge.  I'm not an Intel hardware engineer so I can't say for sure.
Given that Foxconn is an Intel licensee I would think you could contact
Intel engineers directly and ask this question.

What I can say for sure is that you shouldn't be working with EOL
operating systems and kernels on the newest chipset platforms.  That's
always a recipe for problems.

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Re: Newbie password problem(s)

2012-10-18 Thread Brian
On Thu 18 Oct 2012 at 11:32:49 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:

> Brian wrote:
> >On Wed 17 Oct 2012 at 21:05:00 +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> >
> >>On Mi, 17 oct 12, 12:22:48, Richard Owlett wrote:
> >>>
> >>>When rebooting into "Rescue Mode", the last two lines displayed are:
> >>>sulogin: root account is locked, starting shell
> >>>root@localhost:~#
> >>>
> >>>At this point I'm allowed to do "apt-get install xyz" - no password
> >>>required.
> >>>
> >>>Comments, questions, suggestions?
> >>
> >>I don't know for sure (never used this option), but this sounds like you
> >>left the root password blank during install.
> >
> >Given the message from sulogin, this is highly likely. In fact, a
> >certainty. You are given a root shell so it is not surprising apt-get
> >works.
> >
> >>  In such cases the root
> >>account is locked and the user create during install is given sudo
> >>powers.
> >
> >The sudo package is installed and the user added to group sudo. If
> >"apt-get install gdm3" installed gd3 this is either a misobservetion
> >or the discovery of a massive security problem.
> >
> 
> If you are referring to what I reported about lines displayed when
> booting in rescue mode, they were copied accurately. As I had no
> means to cut-n-paste between my test machine and my e-mail machine I
> was copying it character by character in my one finger hunt-n-peck
> typing mode.

My final sentence refers to your writing 'Successful "apt-get install
gdm3" using user password.' which does not occur in your account of
booting in recovery mode. Without knowing what the command you used was
and what you meant by 'using user password' it is a little difficult to
know what is going on. All I can say is that the command 'apt-get
install gdm3', when given here from a non-root account, does not install
gdm3.


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Re: 32bit binaries on 64bit system?

2012-10-18 Thread Mark Allums

On 10/17/2012 10:56 PM, Curt Howland wrote:

Dear Debian-user, newly installed AMD64 Squeeze.

I've decided to try installing Debian in 64bit for the first time, and
restoring my home files has exposed a 32bit legacy.

"wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS32"

So I installed all the ia32libs, but the error is occurring. Clearly
the "ELF class ELFCLASS32" is not being recognized as having
libraries available.

This is one small binary, but if I can get ELFCLASS32 recognized for
one little binary, then it will be available for any others, too.

Suggestions? My Google-fu reveals answers for particular applications,
but nothing which makes it system-wide.

Curt-





Is a 64 version not available?  Wrong elf class occasionally means 
binary incompatibility, e.g., running Ubuntu binaries on a Debian 
system.  Is the source available?  You can try rebuilding from source.


This is set to become less of a problem with multiarch, but multiarch is 
not ready yet.  However, you can try this:


$dpkg --add-architecture i386

along with making sure your other infrastructure is 32-bit friendly. 
Mixing 32- and 64-bit libraries leads to this, and it crops up a lot in 
Java, so make sure that is in order.  Flash may cause this error, 
installing the 64-bit version actually installs both versions, and 
should solve it if it's Flash.


Let us know when you find the solution, your experience may help others.


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Re: Debian Wheezy Architecture

2012-10-18 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Jo, 18 oct 12, 09:46:19, Stephen P. Molnar wrote:
> 
> What I really need is a pointer towards a really basic discussion of
> Synaptic an apt.

Debian Reference, also available as package debian-reference.

Kind regards,
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Re: Newbie password problem(s)

2012-10-18 Thread Richard Owlett

Brian wrote in previous post:

The sudo package is installed and the user added to group sudo. If

>"apt-get install gdm3" installed gd3 this is either a misobservetion
>or the discovery of a massive security problem.


I'm beginning to suspect "massive security problem."
I'm going have to create and test a preseed file so someone 
else can duplicate what I'm doing.
I've been reading about preseeding but haven't actually done 
it yet.
I'm doing things that a likely very atypical, but I believe 
legal. I'm seeing other unexpected things.

Got only 3-4 hours sleep last night, I'll call it a day.


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Re: Listen to audio..........

2012-10-18 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2012-10-18 at 08:39 -0700, Kelly Clowers wrote:
> And where is this Windows program "Arcade" from? I cannot find it anywhere...

Goggle does find it, e.g.
http://www.softwaregeek.com/acer-arcade-multimedia-player-freeware/p1.html


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Re: can't create an UDF file system on a CD-RW

2012-10-18 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2012-10-18 at 18:11 +0200, Pierre Frenkiel wrote:
> /usr/share/doc/udftools/README.Debian.gz

Thank you


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Re: Evolution: A warning about mbox data corruptions

2012-10-18 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2012-10-18 at 18:18 +0200, lee wrote:
> Christoph Anton Mitterer  writes:
> 
> > This is intended as a warning on all users of the Evolution MUA that it
> > contains a bug since years that leads to irrecoverably corruptions on
> > any "From_" lines in mails.
> 
> Using mbox to store mails seems prone to corruption by design, not to
> mention other disadvantages.  It circumvented the problem of
> significantly decreased performance for instances when there were many
> files in the same directory file systems which are now pretty obsolete
> had.
> 
> Since quite some time, you can use maildir or nnml instead.

You can assume that the OP is aware of this, but seemingly an old GNOME
user. FWIW I testet Evolution 3.6 on the Ubuntu Studio Quantal RC and
I'm not using mbox. 3.6 is completely borked. Time to get rid of all
GNOME stuff, which isn't easy when several installs share mails. It's
impossible to switch from Evolution simply to Mutt or what ever, maildir
isn't that super-compatible as everybody claims.


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Re: Install Debian on a UEFI-motherboard ?

2012-10-18 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2012-10-18 at 17:29 +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote:
> Tom Rausner wrote:
> >Hi Folks.
> >I have a tower PC with a serious motherboard problem.
> >It is unable to pass data from one place (say the harddisk)
> >to another (say a CDROM), without drowning it in errors.
> >I think some pathways in the motherboard is broken, so I want to
> >replace it. BUT most of the motherboards on the market doesn't
> >have an old-style BIOS, they've got the UEFI-thing. So the question
> >is; can I replace my motherboard with one infested with the UEFI-thing
> >and get a Debian install to work on it ?
> 
> Hi Tom,
> 
> I know we're a few weeks on from when you asked, but...
> 
> As of today, we now have official debian-installer test CDs that
> should work for installing on UEFI systems. See 
> 
>   http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2012/10/msg7.html
> 
> for more details about the release.

Can't UEFI be disabled on most mobos?


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Thinkpad W510 trackpoint

2012-10-18 Thread ol
Hi.
I've got some problems with the thinkpads trackpoint buttons.
None of the 3 buttons are working, and nothing is registered when
checking with xve, the trackpoint itself is working without issues.
The trackpad is disabled in bios, but its buttons was working when enabled.
I'm at the moment on debian testing, but the problem was on stable aswell.
Anyone experienced this or can point me in a direction?

xinput get props 12

Device 'TPPS/2 IBM TrackPoint':
Device Enabled (131):   1
Coordinate Transformation Matrix (133): 1.00, 0.00, 0.00,
0.00, 1.00, 0.00, 0.00, 0.00, 1.00
Device Accel Profile (255): 0
Device Accel Constant Deceleration (256):   1.00
Device Accel Adaptive Deceleration (257):   1.00
Device Accel Velocity Scaling (258):10.00
Device Product ID (250):2, 10
Device Node (251):  "/dev/input/event8"
Evdev Axis Inversion (259): 0, 0
Evdev Axes Swap (261):  0
Axis Labels (262):  "Rel X" (141), "Rel Y" (142)
Button Labels (263):"Button Left" (134), "Button Middle" (135),
"Button Right" (136), "Button Wheel Up" (137), "Button Wheel Down"
(138)
Evdev Middle Button Emulation (264):0
Evdev Middle Button Timeout (265):  50
Evdev Third Button Emulation (266): 0
Evdev Third Button Emulation Timeout (267): 1000
Evdev Third Button Emulation Button (268):  3
Evdev Third Button Emulation Threshold (269):   20
Evdev Wheel Emulation (270):0
Evdev Wheel Emulation Axes (271):   0, 0, 4, 5
Evdev Wheel Emulation Inertia (272):10
Evdev Wheel Emulation Timeout (273):200
Evdev Wheel Emulation Button (274): 4
Evdev Drag Lock Buttons (275):  0


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Re: Install Debian on a UEFI-motherboard ?

2012-10-18 Thread Joe Pfeiffer
Ralf Mardorf  writes:

> On Thu, 2012-10-18 at 17:29 +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote:
>> Tom Rausner wrote:
>> >Hi Folks.
>> >I have a tower PC with a serious motherboard problem.
>> >It is unable to pass data from one place (say the harddisk)
>> >to another (say a CDROM), without drowning it in errors.
>> >I think some pathways in the motherboard is broken, so I want to
>> >replace it. BUT most of the motherboards on the market doesn't
>> >have an old-style BIOS, they've got the UEFI-thing. So the question
>> >is; can I replace my motherboard with one infested with the UEFI-thing
>> >and get a Debian install to work on it ?
>> 
>> Hi Tom,
>> 
>> I know we're a few weeks on from when you asked, but...
>> 
>> As of today, we now have official debian-installer test CDs that
>> should work for installing on UEFI systems. See 
>> 
>>   http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2012/10/msg7.html
>> 
>> for more details about the release.
>
> Can't UEFI be disabled on most mobos?

The security can.  I just installed debian on a new UEFI motherboard a
couple of weeks ago with no issues whatever.


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Re: Install Debian on a UEFI-motherboard ?

2012-10-18 Thread Wally Lepore
On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 12:29 PM, Steve McIntyre  wrote:

> Tom Rausner wrote:
> >Hi Folks.
> >I have a tower PC with a serious motherboard problem.
> >It is unable to pass data from one place (say the harddisk)
> >to another (say a CDROM), without drowning it in errors.
> >I think some pathways in the motherboard is broken, so I want to
> >replace it. BUT most of the motherboards on the market doesn't
> >have an old-style BIOS, they've got the UEFI-thing. So the question
> >is; can I replace my motherboard with one infested with the UEFI-thing
> >and get a Debian install to work on it ?
>

Hi Tom,

While initially installing debian, I did locate some helpful tutorials from
www.linuxbsdos.com .

Although I do not have UEFI firmware, and you may not be installing debian
in a dual-boot setup (like I did), the links below describe installing
Ubuntu and Windows in a dual-boot configuration on motherboards that
utilize UEFI firmware.

He mentions that other distros can be used in place of Ubuntu as I kindly
asked about my debian install. He also has debian related articles.

There is some good information on UEFI that may be helpful to your
installation.

You can ask a question to the author (name: finid) at the bottom of the
page in the links listed below.

Dual-Boot using UEFI firmware and One Hard Drive:
http://www.linuxbsdos.com/2012/10/11/dual-boot-windows-7-and-ubuntu-12-04-on-a-pc-with-uefi-hardware/

Dual Boot Using UEFI firmware and Two Hard Drives:
http://www.linuxbsdos.com/2012/10/10/dual-boot-windows-7-and-ubuntu-12-04-on-a-pc-with-uefi-board-ssd-and-hdd/

Home page:
http://www.linuxbsdos.com/

Additional links in regards to debian
http://www.linuxbsdos.com/category/debian/

I hope this helps.
Wally


Re: Install Debian on a UEFI-motherboard ?

2012-10-18 Thread Lisi


On Thursday 18 October 2012 20:43:05 Joe Pfeiffer wrote:
> Ralf Mardorf  writes:
> > On Thu, 2012-10-18 at 17:29 +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote:
> >> Tom Rausner wrote:
> >> >Hi Folks.
> >> >I have a tower PC with a serious motherboard problem.
> >> >It is unable to pass data from one place (say the harddisk)
> >> >to another (say a CDROM), without drowning it in errors.
> >> >I think some pathways in the motherboard is broken, so I want to
> >> >replace it. BUT most of the motherboards on the market doesn't
> >> >have an old-style BIOS, they've got the UEFI-thing. So the question
> >> >is; can I replace my motherboard with one infested with the UEFI-thing
> >> >and get a Debian install to work on it ?
> >>
> >> Hi Tom,
> >>
> >> I know we're a few weeks on from when you asked, but...
> >>
> >> As of today, we now have official debian-installer test CDs that
> >> should work for installing on UEFI systems. See
> >>
> >>   http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2012/10/msg7.html
> >>
> >> for more details about the release.
> >
> > Can't UEFI be disabled on most mobos?
>
> The security can.  I just installed debian on a new UEFI motherboard a
> couple of weeks ago with no issues whatever.

+1  And luckily I was having mouse problems and the GUI didn't activate.  So 
it was extremely like all the BIOSs I've known and loved.

Lisi

Lisi


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multiple DHCP servers and /etc/resolv.conf

2012-10-18 Thread Vincent Lefevre
My Debian laptop has several ways to have network connection: Ethernet,
wifi and USB (the latter is used together with my Nokia N900, which has
a DHCP server). I have the following problem, when doing:

1. Connect via wifi, using DHCP (as usual). /etc/resolv.conf is
   modified accordingly, as expected.

2. Connect my Nokia N900 via USB, also using DHCP. The problem is
   that /etc/resolv.conf is overwritten, and if I do not enable wifi
   or GPRS/3G connection on my N900, DNS resolution no longer works.
   Overwriting /etc/resolv.conf is expected when there is only the
   USB connection (the N900 being used as a router, so that I can
   get an Internet connection via GPRS/3G when no wifi hotspots are
   available); otherwise it should not be modified, IMHO.

Does anyone have any solution that does *not* require manual changes
(when I want to change the way I connect)?

I've seen some possible solution on

  
http://serverfault.com/questions/223427/dhclient-append-settings-from-multiple-dhcp-servers

but clean-up (not mentioned there) appears to be complex. In my case,
I don't think I need a merge. The following behavior should be OK, if
possible: if there is already a default route, then the DHCP client
should not modify "/etc/resolv.conf".

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isci module is missing in the latest Debian testing amd64 iso

2012-10-18 Thread rick
Hi All,

I'm trying to install the latest Debian testing version (iso dated
2012-10-15) on a new quad socket romley system.  The system only has Intel
SAS ports for drives, which use the isci driver.  It seems the isci driver
is completely missing from the latest iso.  I haven't tried any older
versions to check if older versions had it, but some googling I've done
indicates they did. The kernel on this release is 3.2.0-3.

How can I add the isci driver back in?

Why was it removed in the first place?  Was it because of the firmware
blob?  If so, it would make much more sense to include the driver but
require adding the firmware blob - that's much easier to do during an
install.

Thanks,
Rick


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Plus '+' character when building kernel

2012-10-18 Thread Amit
Hello,

On a debian wheezy system, I am building upstream kernel using the
following command:

fakeroot make-kpkg --revision 3.6.0 --append-to-version -0-amd64 --initrd
kernel_image kernel_headers

The resulting package is:

linux-image-3.6.0-0-amd64+_3.6.0_amd64.deb

Notice the '+' character. How do I remove that?

Thanks,
Amit


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OT: Wheezy: Error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0

2012-10-18 Thread T Elcor
Hi,

Am trying to reflash my cellphone from wheezy using "reflash" program and am 
getting a weird "No such file or directory" error for  libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0. I 
had tried adding  "/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu" to the PATH but got the same 
error message.

Any ideas? Thanks



$ ./reflash
./reflash: error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0: cannot 
open shared object file: No such file or directory

$ ls -l /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 27 Aug  6 12:30 
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 -> libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0.2400.10

$ ls -l /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0.2400.10
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 4442248 Aug  6 12:30 
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0.2400.10

# dpkg -S libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0
libgtk2.0-0:amd64: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0
libgtk2.0-0:amd64: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0.2400.10

# uname -a
Linux test 3.2.0-3-amd64 #1 SMP Mon Jul 23 02:45:17 UTC 2012 x86_64 GNU/Linux



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Re: AMD/ATI video drivers in Squeeze

2012-10-18 Thread Ralf Mardorf
32-bit PAE kernels only enable access to more RAM than 3.75GB, while
64-bit kernels can use a 64-bit bus for all the IO work. So since you
seemingly are not comfortable with the FLOSS driver's 3D acceleration,
it might be, that for your needs, 64-bit will be faster.

The driver not only need to fit to your graphics, but also to the
version of X. If you download a driver from ATI you need to take care
that it fit to the used version of X.


If you get a black screen, warnings and errors could be found in the log
file /var/log/Xorg.0.log .

Would you use 2.6 kernel headers, to build modules for a 3.5 kernel?
Some stuff is compiled inside the kernel, other stuff can be loaded if
needed, but those modules are quasi part of the kernel, they're
in /lib/modules/KERNEL_VERSION .
It's possible to set up Linux in a way, that it will build modules
automatically after a kernel upgrade.


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Re: OT: Wheezy: Error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0

2012-10-18 Thread Ralf Mardorf
# ldconfig


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Re: OT: Wheezy: Error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0

2012-10-18 Thread T Elcor
- Original Message -

> From: Ralf Mardorf 
>
> # ldconfig

# ldconfig -v | grep -i libgtk-x11-2
ldconfig: Path `/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu' given more than once
ldconfig: Path `/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu' given more than once
    libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 -> libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0.2400.10

I'm beginning to suspect "reflash" is a 32-bit program. Could this be the 
reason?  Thanks


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Re: OT: Wheezy: Error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0

2012-10-18 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2012-10-18 at 19:51 -0700, T Elcor wrote:
> - Original Message -
> 
> > From: Ralf Mardorf 
> >
> > # ldconfig
> 
> # ldconfig -v | grep -i libgtk-x11-2
> ldconfig: Path `/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu' given more than once
> ldconfig: Path `/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu' given more than once
> libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 -> libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0.2400.10
> 
> I'm beginning to suspect "reflash" is a 32-bit program. Could this be the 
> reason?  Thanks

I guess you're right.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=730884



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Re: OT: Wheezy: Error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0

2012-10-18 Thread T Elcor
- Original Message -
>>  I'm beginning to suspect "reflash" is a 32-bit program. Could 
> this be the reason?  Thanks
> 
> I guess you're right.
> 
> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=730884

Yes, it is a 32-bit app,  "# aptitude install lib32ncurses5 libgtk2.0-0 
ia32-libs-gtk" solves it. Thanks



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Re: Plus '+' character when building kernel

2012-10-18 Thread Tom H
On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 9:14 PM, Amit  wrote:
>
> On a debian wheezy system, I am building upstream kernel using the
> following command:
>
> fakeroot make-kpkg --revision 3.6.0 --append-to-version -0-amd64 --initrd
> kernel_image kernel_headers
>
> The resulting package is:
>
> linux-image-3.6.0-0-amd64+_3.6.0_amd64.deb
>
> Notice the '+' character. How do I remove that?

Prepend "LOCALVERSION=''"


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Re: multiple DHCP servers and /etc/resolv.conf

2012-10-18 Thread Tom H
On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 7:19 PM, Vincent Lefevre  wrote:
>
> My Debian laptop has several ways to have network connection: Ethernet,
> wifi and USB (the latter is used together with my Nokia N900, which has
> a DHCP server). I have the following problem, when doing:
>
> 1. Connect via wifi, using DHCP (as usual). /etc/resolv.conf is
>modified accordingly, as expected.
>
> 2. Connect my Nokia N900 via USB, also using DHCP. The problem is
>that /etc/resolv.conf is overwritten, and if I do not enable wifi
>or GPRS/3G connection on my N900, DNS resolution no longer works.
>Overwriting /etc/resolv.conf is expected when there is only the
>USB connection (the N900 being used as a router, so that I can
>get an Internet connection via GPRS/3G when no wifi hotspots are
>available); otherwise it should not be modified, IMHO.
>
> Does anyone have any solution that does *not* require manual changes
> (when I want to change the way I connect)?

WAG: Isn't resolvconf meant for situations like this one?


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