Re: A puzzle with internet time and NIST time

2012-10-17 Thread Helmut Wollmersdorfer


Am 16.10.2012 um 15:48 schrieb Paul E Condon:



I think you are mistaken about the sync only once a day. The signals
giving the year month and day are given once a day, but the precise
time-tics are given throughout the day. My clock has an indication
when it is receiving the radio signal which goes out when I move to a
place where the signal is weak, or when I change the battery and it
has not yet locked-in on the rhythm of the signal. Then, for a time,
the hour,minute,and second are good, but the date is wrong. Then after
a while, the correct date and day-of-week appear. I think the date
signal is actually more frequent than once a day, but definitely less
frequent than once a second. This is also the way that it is claimed
to work in the marketing materials.


Maybe you have a better radio clock, but most the cheap ones (20 - 40  
EUR/USD) sync once a day, or on demand by reset.


The process is as follows:

1. The sender emits the signal as a pulse every second (low or high bit)
2. The bits sent in one minute (59, 60 or 61 seconds) form a full  
record containing date, time, daylight saving, leap year, leap seconds  
and other information
3. The antenna of your clock receives the signal and tries to get the  
complete information of a cycle. This can need many minutes if the  
signal is noisy. Or it can fail. Or it only works in the night because  
of 'noise'.
4. The clock tries to move the clockhands in the correct position, and/ 
or tries to set the displays for date, weekday, and second.


The last two radio clocks I threw away had problems with step 4. They  
synced after reset (I tried often and also changed batteries, cleaned  
the contacts etc.), but the clockhands stopped at wrong positions. And  
it always was the same offset.





The reason for my puzzlement is that the clock has always behaved in a
way consistent with the above --- for about twelve years starting when
I lived in California and continuing here in Colorado, where I now
live --- until recently when I noticed this 16sec offset.


Your wallclock is out of order.

If you want to know it for sure, you can build a receiver for the  
signal, connect it to your computer and configure it into ntpd. There  
is enough documentation and software available for free about this.  
The material for one receiver costs around 10-20 USD. In my best time  
I had two time-servers with 6 such receivers connected to the servers.  
They received the British, Swiss and German time signals.



I have no
knowledge of international time signals. I'm sure there is world-wide
coordination, or perhaps the word is harmonization.


Time is coordinated internationally since more than 100 years. Each  
country has its own metrologic institute coordinating the time with  
the central bureau AFAIK in Paris. You can read everything about it in  
the internet.


If and since when the US take part of this coordination--I don't know.  
The US do not like international agreements. Have the US signed the  
Human Rights, or the international Woman Rights?



Helmut Wollmersdorfer


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Re: Vaio Z RAID 0

2012-10-17 Thread Dan
On Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 7:18 PM, Dan  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I bought a Vaio Z. It has 2 hard drives of 128 and they are setup with
> a fake RAID 0 " Intel Rapid Storage Technology " . That makes a RAID 0
> of 256Gb.
>
> I have no experience with RAIDs and I am trying to install wheezy but
> also to keep windows.
>
> I would like to keep the windows system. I made some space and I am
> able to go through the installation process but when I try to
> partition the hard drive I get:
>
> Failed to create a file system
> The ext4 file system creation in partition #6 of RAID0 device #126 failed
>
> I created the partitions... but I also got that message. Any ideas? It
> seems that the installer was able to create the partitions but not to
> create the filesystem.
>
> I read in Julien Danjou's blog that the Intel Rapid Storage
> Technology's RAID does not work properly with Linux.
> http://julien.danjou.info/blog/2012/sony-vaio-SVZ13-linux
>
> I would like to keep windows, but Julien suggested to wipe the whole
> hard drive. Any suggestions?
>
> Thanks a lot,
> Dan

Hi again,

Any ideas why I couldn't install linux in this fakeRAID? " Intel Rapid
Storage Technology " .
I think it is possible to disable the fakeRAID in the Bios.  Probably
If I am not able to install linux with Windows using this fakeRAID. I
will just erase windows and install only Linux (Debian) using a
software RAID 0. I think that should be quite straightforward with the
Debian installer.

Thanks,
Dan


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Re: Vaio Z RAID 0

2012-10-17 Thread Frank Otto
Hi Dan,

the good news is that I can confirm that it is possibly to run Linux
on a VAIO SVZ13, using the original Intel-RAID0 and without destroying
the pre-installed Windows.  The bad news is that the way I did it is
probably not easy to follow for everyone, and it might require some luck
(i.e. using the correct versions of everything, and in the right order).

Unfortunately I cannot give you precise advice, but maybe telling you
about my experiences installing Linux on this device will be of some help.
However, in my case I did not install Debian Wheezy but Xubuntu 12.04.
For this I had to use Ubuntu's "alternate installer", which I believe
behaves very similar to the Debian installer, although I guess there
are some differences.

But before running any installer, I actualled used a Linux-Live-CD (GRML
2012.05) to back up (using ntfsclone) and shrink (using ntfsresize)
the Windows partitions and to repartition (using fdisk -uc) the
Intel-RAID0. If I recall correctly, the original partitioning was:
p1 = recovery
p2 = Windows boot loader
p3 = Windows 7
p4 = hibernation
I deleted p1 and p4 and shrank p3. Later during the installation, I used
p1 for the Linux / filesystem, and the space gained from p3&p4 for /home.

I do not recall having any trouble creating the filesystems. But if
I had, I would have tried creating the filesystems manually via GRML,
and then telling the installer to simply use the existing filesystems
(which I believe is possible, but admittedely I'm not completely sure).

For me the biggest snag was installing GRUB to the MBR, which requires
giving the correct device name, i.e. /dev/mappers/isw_something or so.
But in the end it worked, and dual-booting between Windows and Linux works
fine so far.  As such, I cannot confirm the statement from Julien's blog
that "this kind of RAID is not supported correctly by GRUB".

Another internet resource which might contain helpful hints is this
thread:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/sony/675057-ubuntu-linux-svz1311.html

Hope this helps and good luck,
Frank

P.S. this is the first time I use google-mail to reply to this list,
so if this ends up in the wrong place or breaking the thread, I apologize.


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Re: A puzzle with internet time and NIST time

2012-10-17 Thread Helmut Wollmersdorfer


Am 16.10.2012 um 18:54 schrieb Doug:


If you live within the coverage area and
your WWVB clock is unable to synchronize, it usually means a source  
of radio interference
is near the receiver. Some common culprits are computer monitors  
(some have a
scan rate at or very close to 60 kHz), noisy AC wiring, fluorescent  
lamps, or nearby power

lines, transformers, or radio transmitters.


Also large soundboxes, machinery can disturb the signal.

I also experienced an unusual problem (because its unusual to have so  
many receivers): I positioned 3 receivers with antennas tuned to the  
same frequency in a line with a small distance between them. Then they  
disturbe each other. Around 10 cm (4 inches) distance between them  
solved the problem.


Helmut Wollmersdorfer


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[ RAID-MD-ISSUE ]

2012-10-17 Thread kush soni
I am trying to create Raid1. I have got three hard disks. On one of the
hard disk I have installed debian. And on my other two hard disks I want to
do Raid1. I have checked their smartctl and they are fine.

My System Configuration is

*Debian version debian-6.0.5-amd64 *

I formatted both the other two hard disks which are 160 GB each and then I
installed the package *mdadm 3.1.4 . **lsmod *shows* md_mod*.

I tried to create raid with the command below

#mdadm --assemble /dev/md0 --level=1 --raid-devices=2 /dev/sdb1 /dev/sdc1
 ( This command does not work so ran the command below )

#mdadm --create /dev/md0 --level=1 --raid-devices=2 /dev/sdb1 /dev/sdc1

#mdadm --detail --scan >> /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf

I booted the system with single user mode and then I formatted

#mkfs.ext4 -L home /dev/md0

When I rebooted the machine and checked  cat /proc/mdstat  ( does not show
active raid devices )

Please guide me where have I gone wrong.

regards

Kaushik Soni


Listen to audio..........

2012-10-17 Thread Charlie

   I have a CD with just audio only tracks, not music, just people
   speaking. They are lectures.

I don't know what extension they have, but VLC won't touch them and
neither will totem.

Could anyone please tell me what package I need to be able to listen to
these audio files.

Thank you.
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Re: Evolution: A warning about mbox data corruptions

2012-10-17 Thread Christoph Anton Mitterer
On Wed, 2012-10-17 at 05:59 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> You didn't notice this yourself in recent years and you're aware of the
> GNU General Public License's disclaimer of warranty ;).
> 
> Don't get me wrong, I would be pissed off too.
Yeah I know... guess I came down a bit over the night.

I fully know what opensource is about... and that there are no
warranties.


But I mean... this is so basic functionality (i.e. not corrupting your
mails) that one could have expected them to ever check what they
actually do... or perhaps even maintain some test suite.


Moreover, this fits so perfectly in the general philosophy problems
GNOME and especially also Evolution have... these guys really need to be
slapped IMHO to wake up and reconsider their way of doing things.


Cheers,
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Re: Number of Debian packages available.

2012-10-17 Thread Tom H
On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 11:37 AM, Andrei POPESCU
 wrote:
> On Ma, 16 oct 12, 08:01:59, Tom H wrote:
>> On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 6:58 AM, Darac Marjal  
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> According to my reading of the manual:
>>>
>>> aptitude search '~smain'
>>>  and
>>> aptitude search '~smain|~scontrib|~snon-free'
>>>
>>> should give you the answers you seek, however, I seem to get 0 for the
>>> first and only 626 for the second, so my search-fu is failing me today.
>>
>> Because "~s" ("?section()") doesn't correspond to main/contrib/non-free.
>
> In theory true, but in practice:
>
> $ apt-cache show nvidia-glx | grep ^Section
> Section: non-free/x11
>
> This means a search for contrib or non-free with ~s will succeed, but
> not for for main, since packages in main don't advertise the archive
> component in the Section field.

Thanks for the correction. Although I consider this a cheat or a bonus
depending on the point of view, it's a practical one because AFAIR
dpkg-query doesn't have a "${Archive}" option.


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Re: Listen to audio..........

2012-10-17 Thread mark
>
>I have a CD with just audio only tracks, not music, just people
>speaking. They are lectures.
>
> I don't know what extension they have, but VLC won't touch them and
> neither will totem.
>
> Could anyone please tell me what package I need to be able to listen to
> these audio files.

How about some more information?
What version of Debian are you running?
Are you sure that the disc is a CD and not a DVD
Can you play other CDs (is the drive working properly?)?
Can you mount this CD and view a list of the files on it?  If not, what
specific errors do you get?
Can you use a ripping program to rip the tracks to .mp3 or .wav files?




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Re: A puzzle with internet time and NIST time

2012-10-17 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2012-10-17 at 09:49 +0200, Helmut Wollmersdorfer wrote:
> cheap ones (20 - 40 EUR/USD)

Radio-controlled table clocks cost less than 9,- EUR some time ago, at a
German discounter.

End of 2009 I bought a power meter for 9.99 EUR from a German
discounter. I've got reasonable doubt that the measuring accuracy is
that exact as the specifications do claim.

The scientific pocket calculator I bought from discounters always failed
very soon, but they are able to do everything an expensive scientific
calculator from the stone age I own can do, while being 30 times
cheaper. Today's branded calculators that perhaps can do more, are
around 8 times more expensive. I don't know how long those do last.

Discounters sell crap.

YMMV,
Ralf


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Re: Header file for QQ Protocol

2012-10-17 Thread Darac Marjal
On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 12:29:46PM +, Kousik Maiti wrote:
>Dear List,
>I need some information about QQ protocol.
>[1]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tencent_QQ.
>I want a header file like linux/tcp.h or linux/ip.h .
> 
>Thanks in advanced.

Pidgin supports QQ, so you might want to look at the source for that.
Depending on what you're after, you might find linking against libpurple
suitable for you.



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Re: Evolution: A warning about mbox data corruptions

2012-10-17 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2012-10-17 at 13:11 +0200, Christoph Anton Mitterer wrote:
> Moreover, this fits so perfectly in the general philosophy problems
> GNOME and especially also Evolution have... these guys really need to
> be slapped IMHO to wake up and reconsider their way of doing things

I switched from GNOME2 to Xfce4 ;). The only data losses I experienced
were not too dramatically and caused by bad hardware or by myself
*knocking on wood*. Fortunately you didn't lost your mails, "just" some
might be really unreadable, regarding to the broken quotations.

Regards,
Ralf


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Re: mount cdrom?

2012-10-17 Thread Chris Bannister
On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 05:14:58AM +, Hadi Motamedi wrote:
> Thank you very much for your help. At now, I can read from the install CDs. 
> On my centos, I learned how to install extra programs from my install CDs , 
> as the following :
> #yum -disablerepo=\* -enablerepo=c6-media install gimp
> Can you please let me know how can I do the same on my Debian ?

man apt-get

i.e. 
# apt-get install gimp

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Re: OT: Various modethods accesing debian-user list

2012-10-17 Thread Jon Dowland
On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 06:22:36PM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> PS: Isn't there a sandbox list for such OT talk? We do have a lot of
> that discussions on that list and should continuing starting it here,
> but then take it to another list.

Well indeed, but you've selectively quoted an OT sentence from a more on-topic
mail.


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Re: code of conduct (was Re: Another OT: GRUB location on Dual-Boot with TWO hard drives)

2012-10-17 Thread Jon Dowland
On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 12:53:59PM -0400, Wally Lepore wrote:
> I understand. Thank you for correcting my humbly mistake. Will comply.

You're welcome - and whilst I'm at it, welcome to the list! I hope you find it
useful.


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Re: mount cdrom?

2012-10-17 Thread Chris Bannister
On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 05:37:55AM +, Hadi Motamedi wrote:
> I found how to install packages from CD, as :
> #apt-get install gcc

Ahh! Should have read whole thread. :)

> But can you please let me know where can I find the list of available and 
> useful programs that I can try to install them from my install CDs ?


(1)
man apt-cache

i.e to search for packages relating to chess:

apt-cache search chess

or

(2)
Some people even use aptitude for this task. hint hint.

or 

(the long way)
(3)
# less /var/lib/dpkg/available

or

(if you like torture) :D
(4)
# dselect

or

(5)
browse the CDROMs themselves.



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Re: code of conduct (was Re: Another OT: GRUB location on Dual-Boot with TWO hard drives)

2012-10-17 Thread Wally Lepore
On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 9:35 AM, Jon Dowland  wrote:

> On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 12:53:59PM -0400, Wally Lepore wrote:
> > I understand. Thank you for correcting my humble mistake. Will comply.
>
> You're welcome - and whilst I'm at it, welcome to the list! I hope you
> find it
> useful.
>

Thank you Jon. The list is very supportive and helpful.


raid

2012-10-17 Thread steef

hi all,

my youngest son gave me two hd's (1 terab. each) included a raid-array 
on ech hd 500 GB; *made by windows7*


how do i get rid of this array? mdadm tells me nothing up till now.

how to handle this?

thanks for all the help i can get here. i put the 2 hd's in a machine 
loaded with sid on a third hd.


reg.,

steef


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Re: raid

2012-10-17 Thread Gary Dale

On 17/10/12 10:19 AM, steef wrote:

hi all,

my youngest son gave me two hd's (1 terab. each) included a raid-array 
on ech hd 500 GB; *made by windows7*


how do i get rid of this array? mdadm tells me nothing up till now.

how to handle this?

thanks for all the help i can get here. i put the 2 hd's in a machine 
loaded with sid on a third hd.


reg.,

steef


Boot from a live cd and use gparted to remove the partitions and create 
new ones each disk.



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Re: Vaio Z RAID 0

2012-10-17 Thread Dan
On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 11:24 AM, Frank Otto  wrote:
> Hi Dan,
>
> the good news is that I can confirm that it is possibly to run Linux
> on a VAIO SVZ13, using the original Intel-RAID0 and without destroying
> the pre-installed Windows.  The bad news is that the way I did it is
> probably not easy to follow for everyone, and it might require some luck
> (i.e. using the correct versions of everything, and in the right order).
>
> Unfortunately I cannot give you precise advice, but maybe telling you
> about my experiences installing Linux on this device will be of some help.
> However, in my case I did not install Debian Wheezy but Xubuntu 12.04.
> For this I had to use Ubuntu's "alternate installer", which I believe
> behaves very similar to the Debian installer, although I guess there
> are some differences.
>
> But before running any installer, I actualled used a Linux-Live-CD (GRML
> 2012.05) to back up (using ntfsclone) and shrink (using ntfsresize)
> the Windows partitions and to repartition (using fdisk -uc) the
> Intel-RAID0. If I recall correctly, the original partitioning was:
> p1 = recovery
> p2 = Windows boot loader
> p3 = Windows 7
> p4 = hibernation
> I deleted p1 and p4 and shrank p3. Later during the installation, I used
> p1 for the Linux / filesystem, and the space gained from p3&p4 for /home.
>
> I do not recall having any trouble creating the filesystems. But if
> I had, I would have tried creating the filesystems manually via GRML,
> and then telling the installer to simply use the existing filesystems
> (which I believe is possible, but admittedely I'm not completely sure).
>
> For me the biggest snag was installing GRUB to the MBR, which requires
> giving the correct device name, i.e. /dev/mappers/isw_something or so.
> But in the end it worked, and dual-booting between Windows and Linux works
> fine so far.  As such, I cannot confirm the statement from Julien's blog
> that "this kind of RAID is not supported correctly by GRUB".
>
> Another internet resource which might contain helpful hints is this
> thread:
> http://forum.notebookreview.com/sony/675057-ubuntu-linux-svz1311.html
>
> Hope this helps and good luck,
> Frank
>
> P.S. this is the first time I use google-mail to reply to this list,
> so if this ends up in the wrong place or breaking the thread, I apologize.

Hi Frank,

Thanks a lot for your answer! It is good news that Linux runs in this
laptop. I shrink the windows partition using Windows. I think that
Windows messed up something because I can not even create a ntfs
partition using Windows...

Maybe I can use the Windows copy that comes with the laptop using
virtualbox. I use most of the time linux and not Windows. I am
creating now the rescue DVDs. Windows 7 takes 5 DVDs!!!

Best,
Dan


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Debian 6.0.5 32 bit Library Required for 64 bit System

2012-10-17 Thread Stephen P. Molnar

I am running the 64 bit 6.0.5, but need the 32 bit canberra-gtk-module.

Where can I find it?

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Re: raid

2012-10-17 Thread Darac Marjal
On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 04:19:08PM +0200, steef wrote:
> hi all,
> 
> my youngest son gave me two hd's (1 terab. each) included a
> raid-array on ech hd 500 GB; *made by windows7*
> 
> how do i get rid of this array? mdadm tells me nothing up till now.

No, it won't. As far as I know, mdadm will only work with Linux's
software RAID implementation.

> 
> how to handle this?
> 
> thanks for all the help i can get here. i put the 2 hd's in a
> machine loaded with sid on a third hd.

If you don't need the RAID array, just treat the disks as blank. That
is, put a new partition table on them and mkfs them. Windows 7's RAID
won't have put anything permanent on the disks.



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Re: raid

2012-10-17 Thread Jon Dowland
On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 04:19:08PM +0200, steef wrote:
> hi all,
> 
> my youngest son gave me two hd's (1 terab. each) included a
> raid-array on ech hd 500 GB; *made by windows7*
> 
> how do i get rid of this array? mdadm tells me nothing up till now.

Use a partition tool such as gparted or cfdisk to change the types of
the partitions to something else, then you could reformat them as LVM
physical volumes, or ext4 or another filesystem as you see fit.

If you are not using the HDDs for anything else yet at all, I'd suggest
just erasing the entire partition table and putting new ones on. Any of
the above partitioning tools could do that.


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Re: raid

2012-10-17 Thread Alessandro Baggi
Hi Darac,
for raid software you can use mdadm. Do you want install system on raid or
do you want use raid for data? before creting raid array, write 0 on each
sector with dd (man dd). There are different paper on the web for this.

See you.
Il giorno 17/ott/2012 17:27, "Darac Marjal"  ha
scritto:

> On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 04:19:08PM +0200, steef wrote:
> > hi all,
> >
> > my youngest son gave me two hd's (1 terab. each) included a
> > raid-array on ech hd 500 GB; *made by windows7*
> >
> > how do i get rid of this array? mdadm tells me nothing up till now.
>
> No, it won't. As far as I know, mdadm will only work with Linux's
> software RAID implementation.
>
> >
> > how to handle this?
> >
> > thanks for all the help i can get here. i put the 2 hd's in a
> > machine loaded with sid on a third hd.
>
> If you don't need the RAID array, just treat the disks as blank. That
> is, put a new partition table on them and mkfs them. Windows 7's RAID
> won't have put anything permanent on the disks.
>
>


Re: raid

2012-10-17 Thread Darac Marjal
On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 06:05:17PM +0200, Alessandro Baggi wrote:
>Hi Darac,
>for raid software you can use mdadm. Do you want install system on raid or
>do you want use raid for data? before creting raid array, write 0 on each
>sector with dd (man dd). There are different paper on the web for this.

Hi Alessandro,

I think you've misread this thread. It's not I who wants to install
anything on RAID. In fact, no-one on this thread mentioned anything of
the sort. The point is how to get rid of a pre-existing RAID array.

P.S. Please don't top post, and please don't send HTML.

> 
>See you.
> 
>Il giorno 17/ott/2012 17:27, "Darac Marjal" <[1]mailingl...@darac.org.uk>
>ha scritto:
> 
>  On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 04:19:08PM +0200, steef wrote:
>  > hi all,
>  >
>  > my youngest son gave me two hd's (1 terab. each) included a
>  > raid-array on ech hd 500 GB; *made by windows7*
>  >
>  > how do i get rid of this array? mdadm tells me nothing up till now.
> 
>  No, it won't. As far as I know, mdadm will only work with Linux's
>  software RAID implementation.
> 
>  >
>  > how to handle this?
>  >
>  > thanks for all the help i can get here. i put the 2 hd's in a
>  > machine loaded with sid on a third hd.
> 
>  If you don't need the RAID array, just treat the disks as blank. That
>  is, put a new partition table on them and mkfs them. Windows 7's RAID
>  won't have put anything permanent on the disks.
> 
> References
> 
>Visible links
>1. mailto:mailingl...@darac.org.uk


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profile function: not found. Was: Dymo 450 ejects label on login

2012-10-17 Thread Joe Pfeiffer
Darac Marjal  writes:

> On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 05:47:07PM -0600, Joe Pfeiffer wrote:
>> The issue is as above:  new machine running xfce4 desktop, with two
>> printers attached.  One of them is an Epson Workforce 645, the other is
>> a Dymo 450 label printer.  The Epson is, of course, the default printer
>> on the system.
>
> Is the Dymo attached as a standard printer (that is, you have an entry
> in CUPS and you can print to it from any normal application) or (being a
> label printer), does it just show up as a character device that prints
> out any data sent to that device?
>
> If the former, check the CUPS logs to see if there's a stuck job,
> perhaps. If the latter, something is presumably sending a form-feed to
> the device. Does this happen if you create a new user and log-in to
> their desktop? Does it happen if you log in at a VT and run startx?

Thanks -- that seemed like the direction the problem had to be in -- but
as you will see in a moment, it wasn't related to the printer or CUPS at
all.

>> 
>> When I log in to the desktop, the Dymo ejects one blank label.
>> 
>> Any thoughts?

I've tracked the problem down now, and found another, stranger (but
easily resolved!) problem.

My .profile defines several bash functions.  When logging in from gdm3,
my .xession-errors file was getting a "function: not found" on every one
of them, and executing all of the commands in the function.  The
particular symptom I was seeing before came because I had a function
defined as

function label { sed -e 's/^[ \t]*//' | enscript -r -d dymo450 -B -f 
Times-Roman12 -M Address ; }

(if your news reader wraps that, it was all one line in the file and in
my post)

Using the alternate syntax

label () { sed -e 's/^[ \t]*//' | enscript -r -d dymo450 -B -f Times-Roman12 -M 
Address ; }

works just fine -- no error, and no blank label.

I've got *no* idea why the function keyword wasn't being recognized.  I
put an

echo $SHELL

in the file, and it wrote /bin/bash in the .xsession-errors file, so it
isn't the obvious problem...
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Re: Vaio Z RAID 0

2012-10-17 Thread Gary Dale

On 17/10/12 11:16 AM, Dan wrote:

On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 11:24 AM, Frank Otto  wrote:

Hi Dan,

the good news is that I can confirm that it is possibly to run Linux
on a VAIO SVZ13, using the original Intel-RAID0 and without destroying
the pre-installed Windows.  The bad news is that the way I did it is
probably not easy to follow for everyone, and it might require some luck
(i.e. using the correct versions of everything, and in the right order).

Unfortunately I cannot give you precise advice, but maybe telling you
about my experiences installing Linux on this device will be of some help.
However, in my case I did not install Debian Wheezy but Xubuntu 12.04.
For this I had to use Ubuntu's "alternate installer", which I believe
behaves very similar to the Debian installer, although I guess there
are some differences.

But before running any installer, I actualled used a Linux-Live-CD (GRML
2012.05) to back up (using ntfsclone) and shrink (using ntfsresize)
the Windows partitions and to repartition (using fdisk -uc) the
Intel-RAID0. If I recall correctly, the original partitioning was:
p1 = recovery
p2 = Windows boot loader
p3 = Windows 7
p4 = hibernation
I deleted p1 and p4 and shrank p3. Later during the installation, I used
p1 for the Linux / filesystem, and the space gained from p3&p4 for /home.

I do not recall having any trouble creating the filesystems. But if
I had, I would have tried creating the filesystems manually via GRML,
and then telling the installer to simply use the existing filesystems
(which I believe is possible, but admittedely I'm not completely sure).

For me the biggest snag was installing GRUB to the MBR, which requires
giving the correct device name, i.e. /dev/mappers/isw_something or so.
But in the end it worked, and dual-booting between Windows and Linux works
fine so far.  As such, I cannot confirm the statement from Julien's blog
that "this kind of RAID is not supported correctly by GRUB".

Another internet resource which might contain helpful hints is this
thread:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/sony/675057-ubuntu-linux-svz1311.html

Hope this helps and good luck,
Frank

P.S. this is the first time I use google-mail to reply to this list,
so if this ends up in the wrong place or breaking the thread, I apologize.

Hi Frank,

Thanks a lot for your answer! It is good news that Linux runs in this
laptop. I shrink the windows partition using Windows. I think that
Windows messed up something because I can not even create a ntfs
partition using Windows...

Maybe I can use the Windows copy that comes with the laptop using
virtualbox. I use most of the time linux and not Windows. I am
creating now the rescue DVDs. Windows 7 takes 5 DVDs!!!

Best,
Dan


You need to use the Windows Disk Manager to shrink the windows partition 
because both the actual partition and the file system need to be 
adjusted. After doing this, you should check the partition for errors.  
Only then should you try to do anything else.


Using RAID 0 (not really RAID because there is no redundancy) for a 
primary file system is a scary proposition. Both drives need to be 
working or your system is in deep trouble. Given that disk failures 
probably account for the majority of hardware problems, I personally 
would try to get rid of the RAID 0 entirely.


To remove RAID 0, you may have to copy your Windows partitions to 
another drive temporarily, then try to break the array and copy the 
partitions back to just one drive. This means that you need to resize 
the Windows partitions so that they fit onto a 128G drive.


Once you have your partitions copied, try booting from a live cd and use 
gparted to create new Windows partitions on one disk and Linux 
partitions on the other. Copy the Windows partitions back and try 
rebooting into Windows. This may actually require reinstalling Windows 
(do a repair-type installation so you don't wipe out your other Windows 
programs). Don't reformat the disks but do allow Windows to try to 
repair them if needed. And keep the copies of the original partitions 
until you have this working.



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Re: Debian 6.0.5 32 bit Library Required for 64 bit System

2012-10-17 Thread Mark Allums

On 10/17/2012 10:20 AM, Stephen P. Molnar wrote:

I am running the 64 bit 6.0.5, but need the 32 bit canberra-gtk-module.

Where can I find it?


Do you have ia32-libs and ia32-libs-gtk installed?  Start by installing 
those.


Then go to http://packages.debian.org/ and search for 
libcanberra-gtk-module,




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Re: A puzzle with internet time and NIST time

2012-10-17 Thread Doug

/snip/


If and since when the US take part of this coordination--I don't know. 
The US do not like international agreements. Have the US signed the 
Human Rights, or the international Woman Rights?



Helmut Wollmersdorfer


The NIST site I mentioned before details the US participation in 
Coordinated Universal Time, or UTC.

Here's the url again: http://tf.nist.gov/general/pdf/1383.pdf

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Newbie password problem(s)

2012-10-17 Thread Richard Owlett
I've been doing a series of Debian installs over the last 
several months.
YES. There are easier ways to do things. *BUT* my purpose is 
_educational_ rather than "efficiency" ;)


I have a history of problems with the root password not 
being recognized.


If the problem *DOES* occur on a  individual install 
iteration , it *WILL* occur on *EVERY* cold boot and *EVERY* 
time a root password is required.
If the problem *DOESN'T* occur on a  individual install 
iteration , it *WILL NEVER* occur on *ANY* cold boot and 
*ANY* time a root password is required.


Whether or not the problem appears is independent of:
   install media - LiveCD or purchased 8 DVD set
  target machine - Lenovo ThinkPad or Lenovo desktop

On  reinstall the problem may or may not occur independent 
of previous condition.


The current problem iteration:
A minimum CLI install on the desktop machine.
A successful boot which accepted my user name and password.
Attempted to use su command, would not accept either password.
Successful "apt-get install gdm3" using user password.
Reboot resulted in expected GUI.
Could not access either "Root Terminal" nor "Synaptic" from 
menu - password not accepted.


When rebooting into "Rescue Mode", the last two lines 
displayed are:

sulogin: root account is locked, starting shell
root@localhost:~#

At this point I'm allowed to do "apt-get install xyz" - no 
password required.



Comments, questions, suggestions?



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Re: Listen to audio..........

2012-10-17 Thread Kelly Clowers
On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 3:40 AM, Charlie  wrote:
>
>I have a CD with just audio only tracks, not music, just people
>speaking. They are lectures.
>
> I don't know what extension they have, but VLC won't touch them and
> neither will totem.

If it is an audio cd, they do not have file extensions, they are
tracks, not exactly files in the usual sense. Some graphical file
browsers will display them with the .cda extension, but that is
artificial, not technically correct. VLC should handle CD audio fine,
use Media -> Open disc


Cheers,
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Re: Evolution: A warning about mbox data corruptions

2012-10-17 Thread Christoph Anton Mitterer
On Wed, 2012-10-17 at 14:49 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> The only data losses I experienced
> were not too dramatically and caused by bad hardware or by myself
> *knocking on wood*.
Good luck

> Fortunately you didn't lost your mails, "just" some
> might be really unreadable, regarding to the broken quotations.
After some first evaluation, there are nearly 17.000 ... that are
corrupted ;)


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can't create an UDF file system on a CD-RW

2012-10-17 Thread Pierre Frenkiel

hi,
I made several attempts to put a UDF file system on a CD-RW, using
the programs of the udftools package, but none worked. Google showed  several
people having the same problem,  but I didn't find any "solved" flag...
Is it hopeless?

here is what I did

->>cdrwtool -d /dev/sr0 -b full
using device /dev/sr0
full blank
1029KB internal buffer
setting write speed to 12x
wait_cmd: Input/output error
Command failed: a1 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - sense 04.09.03
blank disc: Input/output error

->>cdrwtool -d /dev/sr0 -b fast 
using device /dev/sr0

fast blank
1029KB internal buffer
setting write speed to 12x

OK, but after that:

->>cdrwtool -d /dev/sr0 -m 295264 
using device /dev/sr0

formatting 295264 blocks
1029KB internal buffer
setting write speed to 12x
wait_cmd: Input/output error
Command failed: 04 17 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - sense 05.2c.00
format disc: Input/output error

->>mkudffs --media-type=cdrw /dev/sr0
trying to change type of multiple extents

in syslog, I got a lot of mesages like:
794.351757] sr 2:0:1:0: [sr0] Add. Sense: Logical block address out of range
794.351763] sr 2:0:1:0: [sr0] CDB: Read(10): 28 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 01 00
794.351772] end_request: I/O error, dev sr0, sector 0
835.975688] cdrom: This disc doesn't have any tracks I recognize!

I tried this with several CD-RW, including a blank one, always getting the same 
results.

Has anybody an idea?

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Re: Newbie password problem(s)

2012-10-17 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Mi, 17 oct 12, 12:22:48, Richard Owlett wrote:
> 
> When rebooting into "Rescue Mode", the last two lines displayed are:
> sulogin: root account is locked, starting shell
> root@localhost:~#
> 
> At this point I'm allowed to do "apt-get install xyz" - no password
> required.
> 
> Comments, questions, suggestions?

I don't know for sure (never used this option), but this sounds like you 
left the root password blank during install. In such cases the root 
account is locked and the user create during install is given sudo 
powers.

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Re: mount cdrom?

2012-10-17 Thread Kelly Clowers
On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 10:37 PM, Hadi Motamedi  wrote:
>
> I found how to install packages from CD, as :
> #apt-get install gcc
> But can you please let me know where can I find the list of available and
> useful programs that I can try to install them from my install CDs ?

I recommend using aptitude for everything. It replaces apt-get and
apt-cache, and has a ncurses TUI (text user interface)

aptitude install gcc
aptitude search chess
aptitude (for TUI)

See the man page for more


Aptitude interactive mode is great for browsing the packages and
picking out what you want to install, and it is by far the best way to
resolve tricky conflicts if you live on the bleeding edge of
unstable+experimental.

Aptitude is the officially recommended tool for command line package
management, replacing apt-get. There used to be technical advantages
to aptitude, and minor incompatibles if using *both* aptitude and
apt-get, but both of those are in the past now.

Cheers,
Kelly Clowers


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Re: Newbie password problem(s)

2012-10-17 Thread songbird
Richard Owlett wrote:
...
> When rebooting into "Rescue Mode", the last two lines 
> displayed are:
> sulogin: root account is locked, starting shell
> root@localhost:~#
>
> At this point I'm allowed to do "apt-get install xyz" - no 
> password required.
>
>
> Comments, questions, suggestions?

  if you are already root and changing 
run levels i'm not sure it would take
you out of root so that makes sense to me.

  are you saying that you were not root
before changing run levels to single user
and it gives you these messages?

  and are you sure it is actually rebooting
instead of changing run levels?

  one is distinct from the other...

  if i am testing things out and need to
reboot i use:

# shutdown -r now

  to do a complete shut down before rebooting i use:

# shutdown -h now

which powers things off for my setup.


  songbird


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Re: can't create an UDF file system on a CD-RW

2012-10-17 Thread Ralf Mardorf
I experienced two "things" as problematic with Linux.
CD-RAM and independent from the CD-RAM issue, UDF too.

I can't help, but I'll watch this thread ;).


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Re: can't create an UDF file system on a CD-RW

2012-10-17 Thread Kelly Clowers
On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 11:33 AM, Ralf Mardorf
 wrote:
> I experienced two "things" as problematic with Linux.
> CD-RAM and independent from the CD-RAM issue, UDF too.

You must mean CD-R or CD-RW? Or DVD-RAM, but that pretty much failed
early, leaving DVD-R(W) and DVD+R(W). If you do have DVD-RAM, I am not
surprised there where problems.


Cheers,
Kelly Clowers


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Re: raid

2012-10-17 Thread steef

On 17-10-12 17:55, Jon Dowland wrote:

On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 04:19:08PM +0200, steef wrote:

hi all,

my youngest son gave me two hd's (1 terab. each) included a
raid-array on ech hd 500 GB; *made by windows7*

how do i get rid of this array? mdadm tells me nothing up till now.


Use a partition tool such as gparted or cfdisk to change the types of
the partitions to something else, then you could reformat them as LVM
physical volumes, or ext4 or another filesystem as you see fit.

If you are not using the HDDs for anything else yet at all, I'd suggest
just erasing the entire partition table and putting new ones on. Any of
the above partitioning tools could do that.





thanks to you all for your kindness to answer to my small problem. well: 
i tried before writing to this list allready allmost everything i read 
here.
so all your answers supported my ideas about this raid-array that even 
seemed to defy fdisk.
but not anymore. there happened to be some loose connections on the 
motherboard. i placed the hd's in another (ancient but good) box and 
everything worked like a charm.\\thank you again,


regards,

steef


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/etc/vsftpd.conf, data_connection_timeout parameter.

2012-10-17 Thread peasthope
Two questions relating to one problem with vsftpd.

* Has anyone noticed a case where the data_connection_timeout parameter 
  in vsftpd.conf is not respected?  According to online manual pages, 
  the default value is 300 s.  In my observations the client receives 
  the following message after 600 s regardless of the value specified 
  for data_connection_timeout.  "Data timeout. Reconnect. Sorry."
  
* Can anyone suggest an efficient way of testing the data_connection_timeout
  value?  An unimaginative way is to write a client program which opens 
  a connection and sends some packets but never completes the transmission 
  properly.  Can the test can be accomplished without writing code?
  
If the problem becomes more definite and a bug is evident, I can make a 
report.

 Thanks,... Peter E.
  
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Re: can't create an UDF file system on a CD-RW

2012-10-17 Thread Slavko
Ahoj,

Dňa Wed, 17 Oct 2012 20:33:35 +0200 Ralf Mardorf
 napísal:

> I experienced two "things" as problematic with Linux.
> CD-RAM and independent from the CD-RAM issue, UDF too.

I have no experiences with udftool and CD-RW, only with DVD-RAM.

I was playing with this a long time ago, but i was success with DVD-RAM.
I tried take look into my notes, but i found only this now:

**
Not starting udftools packet writing: No devices listed in /etc/default/udftools

mkudffs --media-type=dvdram -r 0x0150 --utf8 --vid=DiskName --lvid=MyName 
/dev/dvdram
**

The 1,5 revision (-r 0x0150) was for usage under windows, where was no
support for newest revisions. By my notes, the "vid" is used under
Windows and the "lvid" is used under Linux, but i am not sure for this.

Don't forget to set the proper permissions after FS creating (mine was
only for root). But finally i am using the FAT for DVD-RAM, because
there was some problems with sharing the files between more accounts.

Hope this help you. 

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Re: Gnome recommends iceweasel-l10n-all

2012-10-17 Thread Artifex Maximus
On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 6:47 PM, Michael Biebl  wrote:
> On 16.10.2012 18:29, Artifex Maximus wrote:
>> On last Wheezy upgrade my system install all iceweasel-l10-* packages
>> because gnome recommends -all package. Is it normal? I only need
>
> This is wanted, yes. To get a translated iceweasel.

Thanks for your answer. Right but not in all languages.

>> English and/or my native language and nothing else. Should be better
>> to recommends only/at least one language I think. There is some logic
>
> What language would that be? Just picking one wouldn't work for everyone
> and be unfair to e.g. non-English speaking people (say we picked
> iceweasel-l10-en).

English and your localization (which used/selected at installation).
English is not installed by default? Or is it possible to install
iceweasel without any language? What happens then? No menus and no
texts?

> Unfortunately it is not possible to express a dependency on a package
> depending the language that was used during system installation.

I see. That's a problem because that would be nice.

>> when package selector able to choose at least one package to fulfill
>> requirement. For example gcc recommends "libc6-dev | libc-dev" and not
>> both.
>
> What might work is the following: All iceweasel-l10n-* packages have a
> Provides: iceweasel-l10-langpack
>
> and in gnome we depend on
> Depends: iceweasel-l10-all | iceweasel-l10-langpack

I am not a package manager expert but sounds good.

> This would allow you to uninstall the languages you don't need/want,
> while still making sure we have a fully translated iceweasel for everyone.

You are right but should be better to choose only one or two than
download and install all then later uninstall several.

I am asking because I had only English iceweasel at first install even
if my mother tongue is not English but at last upgrade apt-get
dist-upgrade unnecessarily installed a lot of iceweasel and myspell
languages because of dependencies. If I choose simple upgrade some
gnome packages were kept back.

Bye,
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Re: Debian 6.0.5 32 bit Library Required for 64 bit System

2012-10-17 Thread Stephen P. Molnar

On 10/17/2012 02:14 PM, Mark Allums wrote:

On 10/17/2012 12:58 PM, Stephen P. Molnar wrote:

On 10/17/2012 12:22 PM, Mark Allums wrote:

On 10/17/2012 10:20 AM, Stephen P. Molnar wrote:
I am running the 64 bit 6.0.5, but need the 32 bit 
canberra-gtk-module.


Where can I find it?


Do you have ia32-libs and ia32-libs-gtk installed?  Start by
installing those.

Then go to http://packages.debian.org/ and search for
libcanberra-gtk-module,




Thanks for your reply.

I got libcanberra-gtk-module_0.24-1_i386.deb, but when I try the
installation I get:

root@debian:/home/computation/Downloads# dpkg -i
libcanberra-gtk-module_0.24-1_i386.deb
dpkg: error processing libcanberra-gtk-module_0.24-1_i386.deb 
(--install):

  package architecture (i386) does not match system (amd64)
Errors were encountered while processing:
  libcanberra-gtk-module_0.24-1_i386.deb

Please advise, thanks.




$man dpkg

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Re: can't create an UDF file system on a CD-RW

2012-10-17 Thread Ralf Mardorf
Oops, yes I meant DVD-RAM. Sometimes they worked like a charm, but for
many installs I couldn't get them working. I guess today DVD-RAM anyway
is completely obsolet.



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Re: can't create an UDF file system on a CD-RW

2012-10-17 Thread Ralf Mardorf
Thank you Slavko :)

On Wed, 2012-10-17 at 21:32 +0200, I wrote:
> Oops, yes I meant DVD-RAM. Sometimes they worked like a charm, but for
> many installs I couldn't get them working. I guess today DVD-RAM
> anyway is completely obsolet.

I guess I'm mistaken, on some installs they worked like a charm and on
most installs they were to slow. Really slow, IIRC copying 1kB still
wasn't done after an hour or something strange like that.

Perhaps interesting to play with those DVD-RAM monsters. OT: A Linux
audio penpal some minutes ago mentioned something else to play with. The
Rasberry Pi, unfortunately it's twice as expensive as promised by the
hype and I hardly have enough money to survive. However, this Rasberry
thingy does siren calls ;).

Regards,
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Re: Debian 6.0.5 32 bit Library Required for 64 bit System

2012-10-17 Thread Mark Allums

On 10/17/2012 2:29 PM, Stephen P. Molnar wrote:

On 10/17/2012 02:14 PM, Mark Allums wrote:

On 10/17/2012 12:58 PM, Stephen P. Molnar wrote:

On 10/17/2012 12:22 PM, Mark Allums wrote:

On 10/17/2012 10:20 AM, Stephen P. Molnar wrote:

I am running the 64 bit 6.0.5, but need the 32 bit
canberra-gtk-module.

Where can I find it?


Do you have ia32-libs and ia32-libs-gtk installed?  Start by
installing those.

Then go to http://packages.debian.org/ and search for
libcanberra-gtk-module,




Thanks for your reply.

I got libcanberra-gtk-module_0.24-1_i386.deb, but when I try the
installation I get:

root@debian:/home/computation/Downloads# dpkg -i
libcanberra-gtk-module_0.24-1_i386.deb
dpkg: error processing libcanberra-gtk-module_0.24-1_i386.deb
(--install):
  package architecture (i386) does not match system (amd64)
Errors were encountered while processing:
  libcanberra-gtk-module_0.24-1_i386.deb

Please advise, thanks.




$man dpkg

yields the command line options --force-architecture and --ignore-depends

It is customary to use reply all or copy-paste the list address into
the address line so that everyone on the list can get the benefits of
the discussion.

Mark




Sorry about that.




Also, take a look at

$dpkg --add-architecture i386
$dpkg apt-get update






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Re: Debian 6.0.5 32 bit Library Required for 64 bit System

2012-10-17 Thread Mark Allums

On 10/17/2012 2:50 PM, Mark Allums wrote:

On 10/17/2012 2:29 PM, Stephen P. Molnar wrote:

On 10/17/2012 02:14 PM, Mark Allums wrote:

On 10/17/2012 12:58 PM, Stephen P. Molnar wrote:

On 10/17/2012 12:22 PM, Mark Allums wrote:

On 10/17/2012 10:20 AM, Stephen P. Molnar wrote:

I am running the 64 bit 6.0.5, but need the 32 bit
canberra-gtk-module.

Where can I find it?


Do you have ia32-libs and ia32-libs-gtk installed?  Start by
installing those.

Then go to http://packages.debian.org/ and search for
libcanberra-gtk-module,




Thanks for your reply.

I got libcanberra-gtk-module_0.24-1_i386.deb, but when I try the
installation I get:

root@debian:/home/computation/Downloads# dpkg -i
libcanberra-gtk-module_0.24-1_i386.deb
dpkg: error processing libcanberra-gtk-module_0.24-1_i386.deb
(--install):
  package architecture (i386) does not match system (amd64)
Errors were encountered while processing:
  libcanberra-gtk-module_0.24-1_i386.deb

Please advise, thanks.




$man dpkg

yields the command line options --force-architecture and
--ignore-depends

It is customary to use reply all or copy-paste the list address into
the address line so that everyone on the list can get the benefits of
the discussion.

Mark




Sorry about that.




Also, take a look at

$dpkg --add-architecture i386
$dpkg apt-get update



Sorry.  omit "dpkg" from the second line.


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Re: can't create an UDF file system on a CD-RW

2012-10-17 Thread Kelly Clowers
On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 12:45 PM, Ralf Mardorf
 wrote:
> Thank you Slavko :)
>
> On Wed, 2012-10-17 at 21:32 +0200, I wrote:
>> Oops, yes I meant DVD-RAM. Sometimes they worked like a charm, but for
>> many installs I couldn't get them working. I guess today DVD-RAM
>> anyway is completely obsolet.
>
> I guess I'm mistaken, on some installs they worked like a charm and on
> most installs they were to slow. Really slow, IIRC copying 1kB still
> wasn't done after an hour or something strange like that.
>
> Perhaps interesting to play with those DVD-RAM monsters.

Interesting that several people here have DVD-RAM, I don't know anyone
personally that has one. It sounds like it was an interesting beast,
too bad it pretty much died out.



> OT: A Linux
> audio penpal some minutes ago mentioned something else to play with. The
> Rasberry Pi, unfortunately it's twice as expensive as promised by the
> hype and I hardly have enough money to survive. However, this Rasberry
> thingy does siren calls ;).

Raspberry Pi is cool (not my cup of tea, but cool nonetheless). It
looks like it is selling for 35 USD, which is what I always heard
quoted.

Cheers,
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Re: Listen to audio..........

2012-10-17 Thread Charlie
 On Wed, 17 Oct 2012 08:27:22 -0400 "m...@neidorff.com
 m...@neidorff.com" suggested this:

>>
>>I have a CD with just audio only tracks, not music, just people
>>speaking. They are lectures.
>>
>> I don't know what extension they have, but VLC won't touch them and
>> neither will totem.
>>
>> Could anyone please tell me what package I need to be able to listen
>>  to these audio files.
>
>How about some more information?
>What version of Debian are you running?
>Are you sure that the disc is a CD and not a DVD
>Can you play other CDs (is the drive working properly?)?
>Can you mount this CD and view a list of the files on it?  If not, what
>specific errors do you get?
>Can you use a ripping program to rip the tracks to .mp3 or .wav files?

Thanks for your reply. 

Just wanted a quick reply, to know what package played audio only
tracks. They are called tracks when I place them into the televisions
DVD player.

The version of Debian in this case might make a difference but I just
wanted the name of something that played them. I would adjust it to
suit my version of Debian Wheezy.

Naturally I would have checked that the CD/DVD player was working, and
in that case it doesn't matter if it can play CD's or DVD's I don't
think?

If I had been able to mount it, I would have known the extension the
tracks/files have. [Thanks Kelly for that info Kelly]

Doesn't matter, a program in windows XP called "Arcade" can read and
play them so I'm right. I would just have liked to listen to them while
booted into Linux, because my windows partition is only there for
emergencies such as this.

Thanks for your help. As always much appreciated.

Be well,
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Re: Question: install Wheezy to some laptops (radeon video) _without any effort_

2012-10-17 Thread Hideki Yamane
Hi,

On Tue, 16 Oct 2012 14:36:59 +0100
Brian  wrote:
> Kernel parameters can be added in
> 
>/etc/default/grub
> 
> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT=

 Thanks Brian :)

 Then, can debian-installer add some parameter to it during installation?


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Re: Listen to audio..........

2012-10-17 Thread Ralf Mardorf
Perhaps you need

"DVD Playback

DVDs are usually encrypted with CSS. CSS is not a codec. In any case,
here is some information on playback of encrypted DVDs. All media
players use libdvdcss2 in order to playback these encrypted DVDs

libdvdcss2 is available

at the unofficial repository deb-multimedia.org.
[snip]
# Type these commands for amd64 machines.
wget
http://www.deb-multimedia.org/pool/main/libd/libdvdcss/libdvdcss2_1.2.10-0.3_amd64.deb
dpkg -i libdvdcss2_1.2.10-0.3_amd64.deb

# Type these commands for i386 machines.
wget
http://www.deb-multimedia.org/pool/main/libd/libdvdcss/libdvdcss2_1.2.10-0.3_i386.deb
dpkg -i libdvdcss2_1.2.10-0.3_i386.deb

Note: while adding an unofficial repository to APT sources can be a
risk, please note that APT package management system doesn't know
anything about packages installed directly with dpkg. These packages
won't be updated automatically if there is a new version on the
repository." - http://wiki.debian.org/MultimediaCodecs


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Re: GRUB location on Dual-Boot with TWO hard drives

2012-10-17 Thread Paul E Condon
On 20121016_164416, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> On Tue, 2012-10-16 at 16:41 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> > On Tue, 2012-10-16 at 13:31 +0100, Lisi wrote:
> > > > > > Which browser?
> > > ^^
> > > > > I'm only using the browsers that installed with the debian netinst
> > > > > file.
> > 
> > > Wally, you have  unfortunately not answered the question I asked.  I have 
> > > marked it above.
> > 
> > I suspect Iceweasel (alway is default for Debian) or less likely
> > regarding to GNOME Epiphany.
> 
> @Wally:
> 
> The menu "Help" usually includes the information in "About".

In my install of Gnome in Squeeze, the word 'Epiphany' does not appear in 
"About".
It does appear in a pop-up when one hovers the cursor over the launch icon for
Epiphany in the upper menu bar. But pop-ups are typically disabled. So a new 
user
can work a long time with Gnome without realizing that the browser has a given
name. If you realize this situation, you should understand that for the typical
new user your question is meaningless. What does he mean by a name? Browser is
browser. Be more forgiving. Gnome does make it pretty hard to understand what
is really happening. 



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Re: GRUB location on Dual-Boot with TWO hard drives

2012-10-17 Thread Ralf Mardorf

> http://wiki.debianforum.de/Google_Chrome

Sorry, this link is in German, I didn't notice it :D, ignore this
browser.




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Re: Listen to audio..........

2012-10-17 Thread Charlie
 On Wed, 17 Oct 2012 23:45:21 +0200 "Ralf Mardorf
 ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net" suggested this:

>Perhaps you need
>
>"DVD Playback
>
>DVDs are usually encrypted with CSS. CSS is not a codec. In any case,
>here is some information on playback of encrypted DVDs. All media
>players use libdvdcss2 in order to playback these encrypted DVDs
>
>libdvdcss2 is available
>
>at the unofficial repository deb-multimedia.org.
>[snip]
># Type these commands for amd64 machines.
>wget
>http://www.deb-multimedia.org/pool/main/libd/libdvdcss/libdvdcss2_1.2.10-0.3_amd64.deb
>dpkg -i libdvdcss2_1.2.10-0.3_amd64.deb
>
># Type these commands for i386 machines.
>wget
>http://www.deb-multimedia.org/pool/main/libd/libdvdcss/libdvdcss2_1.2.10-0.3_i386.deb
>dpkg -i libdvdcss2_1.2.10-0.3_i386.deb
>
>Note: while adding an unofficial repository to APT sources can be a
>risk, please note that APT package management system doesn't know
>anything about packages installed directly with dpkg. These packages
>won't be updated automatically if there is a new version on the
>repository." - http://wiki.debian.org/MultimediaCodecs
>

Thanks Ralf,

I have these on my system for various packages:

i   dvd+rw-tools- DVD+-RW/R
tools p   dvd+rw-tools-dbg- DVD+-RW/R tools
(debug) i A dvdauthor   - create DVD-Video file
system p   dvdbackup   - tool to rip DVD's from the
command line p   dvdbackup-dbg   - debug files for
dvdbackup p   dvdisaster  - data loss/scratch/aging
protection for CD/ p   dvdisaster-doc  - data
loss/scratch/aging protection for CD/ p
dvdtape - Create DVD master filesystems on DLT
media p   ladvd   - minimal LLDP/CDP sender v
libdvdcss   - i   libdvdcss2  -
Simple foundation for reading DVDs - runti p
libdvdnav-dbg   - DVD navigation library (debug) p
libdvdnav-dev   - DVD navigation library (development)
i A libdvdnav4  - DVD navigation library p
libdvdread-dbg  - library for reading DVDs (debug) p
libdvdread-dev  - library for reading DVDs
(development) i A libdvdread4 - library for reading
DVDs p   lsdvd   - read the content info of a
DVD p   radvd   - Router Advertisement Daemon
p   vdr-plugin-dvd  - DVD playback plugin for VDR 

Do I need the last on this list? I don't use VDR?

Thanks for your suggestions.

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Re: Question: install Wheezy to some laptops (radeon video) _without any effort_

2012-10-17 Thread Brian
On Thu 18 Oct 2012 at 06:19:40 +0900, Hideki Yamane wrote:

>  Then, can debian-installer add some parameter to it during installation?

The install Guide says 'yes'. Section 5.3.3. -  Passing parameters to
kernel modules. Parameters given on the installer command line are also
propagated to the installed system.

I'd not expect "radeon.modeset=0" to go into /etc/default/grub, though.
The likely place is /etc/modprobe.d.


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Re(2): GRUB location on Dual-Boot with TWO hard drives

2012-10-17 Thread peasthope
*   From: Joe 
*   Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2012 09:14:20 +0100
> If you install it in the Debian partition, you will need to run 
> this bootloader from the first stage of the Windows bootloader.

This might help and it cites the Grub manual.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chain_loading

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Re: A puzzle with internet time and NIST time

2012-10-17 Thread Paul E Condon
On 20121016_120614, John Hasler wrote:
> I just tried name1.glorb.com.  It is distributing correct time and your
> machine is synchronizing properly to it.  Your wall clock is broken. 
> -- 
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I've placed an order for a replacement 'atomic' clock. Thanks to everyone
for the interesting discussion. I had no idea the topic is so complicated.
There are so many ways for the clock to fail.


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Debian Etch(Kernel 2.6.24) Can't insatll on Ivy bridge platform

2012-10-17 Thread richie . jf . liu

Dear,

When we install Debian Etch(Kernel 2.6.24) on Intel Ivy Bridge platform, it
pop out warning message: "no mount CD-ROM can be found". If we install this
OS with Sandy Bridge platform, it works fine. but now, we need update to
Ivy Bridge platform. we are facing this problem now. Any suggestions? Or
anybody knows if kernel 2.6.24 support Intel Ivy Bridge platform? Thanks in
advance and any suggestions will be highly appreciated!

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Thanks for your kindly support,any concern,please contact me.

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32bit binaries on 64bit system?

2012-10-17 Thread Curt Howland
Dear Debian-user, newly installed AMD64 Squeeze.

I've decided to try installing Debian in 64bit for the first time, and 
restoring my home files has exposed a 32bit legacy.

"wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS32"

So I installed all the ia32libs, but the error is occurring. Clearly 
the "ELF class ELFCLASS32" is not being recognized as having 
libraries available.

This is one small binary, but if I can get ELFCLASS32 recognized for 
one little binary, then it will be available for any others, too.

Suggestions? My Google-fu reveals answers for particular applications, 
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